Does a Toyota Last Longer Than a Honda?
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- It's Toyota vs Honda reliability! Both of these car brands have a great record when it comes to vehicle reliability, but from my perspective both companies have taken a bit of a step back when we talk about:
- Car ownership costs
- Maintenance requirements
- Car reliability
Plus you'll get a cold start on a few cars from Honda and Toyota.
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Fact check: back in days, owned 1990 Honda Civic Hatchback, bought already w/ 200K miles on ODO, drove another 250K miles, meanwhile replaced twice timing belt and water pump, along with basic tune up, sold w 450K miles on ODO, I'm sure it's still not in junk yard yet and the new owner still enjoying it... Drive safe ✌️🙂
Good for you! Honda builds some great small engines.
@@Shadobanned4life @Chad O'Ban Forgot to mention, my Civic didn't have power steering, no ABS, no fuel injector - it was w/ carburetor, front rotors and rear was on drums, I sure did replaced parts here and there within my ownership as it wares out, just short list: valve gasket, rotor and pads, radiator hoses, but this car never broke down on me, I never had to take it to mechanic for something that needed to be fixed, always had best brand oils in it, both engine and in manual transmission. Like Japanese cars - Toyota Corolla Hatchback, Mazda 3 hatch, Subaru Impreza but when I will have a chance to buy an actual brand new car, I sure go for Honda, it's my own personal preference as my very first beloved car was - the Civic... 🙂✌️
I had a 1985 accord 5 speed cable clutch bought with 350k miles for $400 in 2013
Cars body was flawless
I drove it 240k miles more
Til the timing belt snapped on me. And it was going to cost crazy $ to fix. Cuz it also needed a catalytic converter.
I had 600 k miles on the ODO
During the time of ownership while I replaced the brakes, the exhaust and one Cadillac converter tires and oil change, regular maintenance stuff.
The only downside which really isn’t a downside, but it was that about every two years I would have to have the exhaust patched or replaced..
Did you still manage to sell it for $20K? 😂
@@icosthop9998 no, the car in this video is not mine... I just mentioned about Honda reliability, the one I had as an example... ✌️
Both brands, Toyota and Honda are RELIABLE as far as my experience is concerned. Basic oil and filter changes, fluid changes, is all that is needed. However, I found parts for the Toyota are readily available and cheaper priced than the Hondas.
The overall car being reliable is Toyota while the strong engines and how the car handles, as well as technology, is more Honda
Honda and Acura automatic transmissions are problematic and can fail more often than Toyota in my experience
@Steven Strain ehh cvts aren’t the greatest either depending on the year but you are right even tho I prefer the auto over the cvt due to the lag in the lower rpms
@johnaker9988 damn.... I knew it. But ur right. The manual are better for Honda, I got a 8th gen civic auto... still runs okay hoping it last for another 100k km it's at 208k km now both engine and tranny
Reliable and long lasting are 2 different things.
I have 4 Hondas in my garage.
The Oldest is 2000 Accord 2.3L with 380k on the Clock. Still purring n running fine.
The newest is Civic 2006 with 230k on the clock.
My vote goes to Honda
lol maybe ur older hondas u clown
I had a new White 2000 Honda Accord 2-door coupe. I sold it at 94,000. I only did one brake job to it. Never even burned a lightbulb.. Never an issue.. excellent car looked like brand new when I sold it. Bought a new 07 Honda Accord.. excellent Car.
I went to Camry after that.
Excellent service as well..
Currently have a 2009 s2000 one 2009 acccord and a 2003 civic only change oil and brakes, on the civic I ran the same oil for 5 years and when I went to change it there was no oil probably 50ml but put 3 new liters, but the car didn't seem to mind 3l or 50ml 🤣
@@sir240s too bad they dont make them like they used to lol
Honda used to be good, nowadays Hondas aren't that reliable
I only have Honda and Toyota, it's so hard for me to choose one over the other. I've had both new and used and I'm impressed with their reliability, easy of maintenance and gas saver.
I just have both as my #1 car brand.
I've been in the car business for so many years. One thing I can tell you is that car dependability comes from maintenance. Poorly maintained car equals poor lifespan. Both toyota and honda are excellent cars though. Two more brands I can recommend are newer Hyundais and Mazdas.
@@cesiumion Your're right, maintenance on time is the key to dependability. The other brand I may consider is Mazda. I'm a Japan made fan.
@@LarryVanz i feel that Subaru comes after mazda in reliability instead of hyundai
@@good-tn9sr me too
My 04 sienna 400k still going
The second year Acura Integra was one of best ever built by Honda in 1988.
Owned a 1990, 1992, and 1995 acura integra. Best cars I've owned!
I had an 87 model 5 speed
I always wanted one but they are super rare especially the 4 door version so I ended up with a 90 sedan still rare but I loved that car though till I had to sell it the earlier Integra were the best the newer generation from 94 to 01 I didn't like the body style though everyone did but I didn't
The water pump on my 2011Camry V6 'only' lasted 235K miles. The most expensive maintenance item is tires by far. Had a 2005 Accord V6 that had 242K miles when my son totaled it. The only problem the Accord ever had is a leaking power steering pump, which Honda fixed for free at nearly 150K on a recall.
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Only? 235k is amazing. I like both brands but I feel toyota is a bit better just in my opinion.
260,000 miles on my 2007 Accord V6 sedan. Original owner and it’s been my daily for almost 17 years now and still all original. It’s very DIY maintenance. I even do the timing belt and water pump in my garage with just electric impact and basic hand tools. I also use AT205 reseal on all my rubber bushings and components. Changed out the rear wheel bearings last year finally, super easy. Brakes and rotors are super easy DIY.
That is awesome. Believe it or not not I got about the same out of a 2006 Tracer manual. It did die suddenly though, but can not complain.
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Honda does not follow Kaizen Philosohy〽️🤡
I had one, 2006 V6 Accord, put like 297k miles on it, and sold it, basically gifted it to a buddy for1500 bucks back in 2019, and that car still running like champ.
@@AngelValdovinos What is it at Honda, 7s, or lean?
Usually, yes. Hondas have had automatic transmission issues since the 90's. However, if you take care of your Honda automatic transmission you might be able to delay transmission failure by a few years, or prevent it outright.
True! Treat your Honda tranny well and it will serve you well.
Original owner of a 2007 accord V6 sedan. 260,000 miles and still my daily. All original and just maintenance I do myself, including the timing belt and water pump in my garage.
I owe acura tl 2003 and tranny is not the best. Welly well known problem.
The 6 cylinder engines from what I have read.
The Honda 2003-05 auto transmissions were awful. The 2006 and newer ones seem to have rectified the problem. Time will tell if the newer CVT's will last long or not.
I have a 2005 Honda Odyssey and a 2009 Toyota Camry. Both are very reliable vehicles. Inexpensive to maintain and repair. I will keep them until they are beyond repair.
Honda and Toyota both have places in my heart, and Honda a little more. My dad drove a Corolla FX16 which we sold to a family friend after he passed. My first car was a 1987 Accord Hatchback with burgundy interior and flip lights. It kept running until the day I totalled it.
Your ‘87 Accord: Why? Why did you do this to me? I served you. I loved you. May every new car after me avenge me for my innocence you tainted.
@@CenobiteBeldar I did not know what I had. That's the way it always is.
Nice. I own a Toyota Corolla FX 1988. Hatchback, unfortunately it’s automatic but I enjoy the car. I also own a Toyota Hilux 1986 and she is a beaut! Love the manual stick, got the 8 ball on it. I now own a Toyota Corolla 2021 LE, so far so good. Solid car, last Corolla with a 1.8 L engine, because 2022+ replaced it with the 2.0 engine. I have a feeling these 3 cars will last me my lifetime (I recently turned 23) my next car will either be a Toyota Supra or a Toyota Sequoia 23. Depending on what I do in the near future, it’ll be down to those two. Sequoia if I leave Los Angeles (which I really want to. California in general) and a Supra if I stay in a city area. Maybe both 🤣
I loved Honda but I feel they are too expensive nowadays, Toyota has still remained the common man's car
@@mohit4902 A Honda Civic starts at 23,400 or so. A Corolla starts at 21,500. If you wanted a Corolla SE with the premium seats and moonroof you'd pay like 26,500. Everything is ridiculous now.
If I had to choose one to run (close to) forever, I'd prefer a used Lexus with Japan as the final assembly point.
This is a very good bet. I've got a Japanese made GS 350 I hope it lasts me another 10 years. Expensive though. Corollas are pretty indestructible.
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I love both Honda and Toyota, I bought a 2011 Lexus LS460 that was built in Japan, and wow, what a car!
I have a 20 year old harrier with original drivetrains still purring along.
Have a 19 year old Lexus. Runs like new
Excellent video! I've had my 2008 Toyota 4Runner for almost 15 years and it still looks and drives like new with only normal dealer servicing. No problems whatsoever, no squeaks, or rattles, even the cloth seats look like new. Best vehicle ever. I think it will last forever.
Lie. Only one word. Rust.
@@zell863 All depends on where the vehicle has spent its lifetime. If it has been in the NE or in the rust belt around the great lakes it certainly has rusted, My 2006 vehicle in Va has no rust.
@@zell863 I use PB Blasters Surface Sheild on my Tacoma
@@loveydovey4u We will see about SS. It is just Lanolin or Fluid Film with added Vaseline. Nothing new there.
@@zell863 yeah so what
This is an opinion not factual**. Both last long enough. Hondas and Toyotas reputation for longevity *(statistically)* is nearly identical. He seems to identify which one is mechanically simple but negates statistics. Ownership also effects how long a Japanese car lasts. Watch Scotty Kilmers video on this topic. Even though he also sounds like a broken record he gives factual data
Mark is not disagreeing with you. He is still saying the cars are very reliable compared to most cars, but compared to *older* Toyotas and Hondas, the newer Toyota and Honda engines are slightly less reliable because they are more complicated and use more plastic components. No doubt this is largely because governments are forcing manufacturers to be more efficient and green every year. Toyota and Honda are no angels either, they have joined up with the big western car companies, spending millions fighting against "right to repair" laws which would stop manufacturers having a monopoly on repairs and open up the repair industry to third parties more, which would reduce repair costs.
@@amuthanshan the video is about longevity. We haven’t had enough time to know how long the newer models actually last. He mentioned Hondas not lasting anywhere near Toyotas, which is factually not accurate (especially if he is referring to older models)
Toyota has the edge, toyota can take neglect and performs good with aftermarket spare parts. COO toyota is cheaper as well
Levi Magneusson Grow up fan boy, Toyota stated last year. That they were going to lax quality control by a lot. Including recycling used parts.
Scotty Kilmer is a person that you surly cannot trust. He claims to be an auto mechanic. Yet in every video, where you see his personal garages. One in each state. They both are nearly fully crammed full. With his personal belongings verses lots of empty space. With tool chests along the wall. Explain that on to me will you.
Explaine to me why Levi Magnusson. Why the only products that scotty kilmer. Recommends are the ones on his affiliate links. While telling you that products like Sea Foam are junk. And may ruine your engine.
Which makes Scotty Kilmer a very greedy,lieing, shill. Of a human being. Scotty even gave out very dangerous advice. On brake repair, a true mechanic called him out on it. He make his own you tube videos as well.
@@abdul_jaqul i agree that toyota preforms better with aftermarket parts. Vs Honda that seems to only work with OEM. As far as neglect it would be hard to test any brand of vehicle taking neglect the best.
My 2009 V6 Accord has 316,000 miles and counting. Amsoil every 5,000 miles (Mobil 1 for the first 290,000) and transmission fluid changes every 30,000 miles. Oil is cheap and not having a car payment is a wonderful feeling.
Honda and toyo engine and trans can last 400k+ miles. Had 07 tsx 4cyl. Starter went out at 95k miles, rack and pinion, power steering pump, shock, wheel bearing, ac unit went out before 190k miles. Civic and 4cyl hondas suck.
@@troytruong8246I have an 2011 TSX, 4 cylinder has 140k miles and so far only the alternator went out at about 105k miles. I Did change the rotors for having a vibration but I also changed the pads myself. Besides changing liquids at the intervals nothing, else… also the paint on Hondas last longer then Toyotas. They recently had a recall. But keeping ones car in a garage or car porch makes a big difference.
@Gabriel Gonzalez the paint on my Honda started peeling years ago, and since moving to New Jersey two years ago I've had to very minor fender benders where other drivers bumbed into me. At the end of the day I really don't care about it, this is not a collectible vehicle, just a daily driver. No sense in spending 3k+ on a proper paintjob when I could buy another Honda or Toyota for just a few grand more. My only concern is to keep the car roadworthy and reliable and on those criteria it delivers in spades.
Excellent informative video thank you. I show these videos to my friends and families who say im japanese brand biased. I have a 2003 odyssey, my mom a 2019 sienna, my dad a 2010 tacoma, my one brother a 2006 corolla, my other brother a 2016 Mazda 3, my other brother a 2011 civic, and my sister a 2022 crv. Cant go wrong with either of these brands. Cant forget about mazdas as well since they are getting better. Keep up the great work. The more information you provide the better for everyone. Thank you once again you have a subscriber for life.
Mark i have owned many Honda's, currently have a FK8 which will be replaced soon with the Civic E HEV Advance ( UK ). All of them have never been expensive to maintain, my current FK8 is 4 and half years old, so far it has cost me set of wiper blades, two tyres, set of rear pads and of course servicing. Reliable absolutely.
Why on earth would you change your fk8 against something that is much slower? I dont understand bro..
@@Hasskii Very simple. FL5 is £13000 dearer than my FK8, rip off increase. Secondly the E HEV which I test drove was quick, comfortable, well equipped and more importantly had great handling. 0 to 60 6.7 about a second slower than my FK8. The FL5 is marginally better than the FK8, certainly not £13000 better.
Don't think you can go wrong with either make.
@Thomas B Don't fuck with the transmissions. I only changed the transmission oil once on my 2006 Ridgeline and have never had any issues with it. 300,000 miles on it and still running strong.
@Thomas B 👍That is the reason I switched to Toyota from Honda.
Y’all need repent and believe the gospel
Talk to the Lord Jesus more
@@A-Ylover0FtheLordJesus 🛑 Stop rocking that Kool-Aid Jim Jones..🧃
Don't own a toyota yet but I have a 2004 honda civic with 170k miles. I daily the car and do routine maintenance and it hasn't let me down yet.
I’m a firm believer in ‘take care of your vehicle, and your vehicle will take care of you’. I had a 06 Kia Spectra and I was religious with routine maintenance, that car racked up 261K before it got t-boned by a truck. Than I bought a 09 F150, again performed regular maintenance and that truck had 197K before I traded it in for a 21 Toyota Camry due to fuel cost.
I have three older Nissans (2011, 2013, 2015). They’re over 100K miles and running strong.
Both good cars; The way you drive it , maintain it and take care of it matters
I’ve owned both, my Toyota lasted a little longer than my Honda but not that much but if you take care and keep up with your maintenance than both these vehicles will last for a long time. The thing was the Toyota was easier to work on. My Honda was a pain at times.
Toyota makes their own trannys. Honda doesn’t.
How many miles?
@@goranpavlovic9051 my civic had 298k miles and then a box truck collided and messed the whole car up. My Camry had 302k miles until a car hit it also. They’re both good cars and had no issues. Just the luck wasn’t on our side at those times unfortunately.
@@salvationbygracethroughfaith cause the Camry was in better shape.. and I was driving both the Honda and the Toyota.
@@salvationbygracethroughfaith before the accident, the Camry was in better shape than the civic.. the civic was burning oil
This is very hard because each brand has certain models which may be more reliable than others. Among those models, there will be specific years which they are more reliable than the rest, as you mentioned. Also, my dealer serviced 2015 sienna suffered from the timing chain cover leak as well as the transmission cooler issue which are 2 notorius issues for this V6 engine. Of course I had a 2008 scion xb with the excessive oil consumption engine and 1990 4Runner with oil sludge recall, aha! My point is, Toyota generally is very reliable brand and they stay behind their products. However, I have noticed the new Tundra, Highlander and Crown with hybrid turbocharged engines so I expect their reliability will get knocked down in the near future. Why do manufacturers have to go with smaller displacement engine with turbo? EPA and politics? You tell me :-)
Exactly right. Idiot politicians win popularity contests for a living and then have power over the engineer who has to deal with problems in reality. I recently asked my children to tell me who they'd want to be stranded on a deserted island with, an engineer or a politician...
2012 xB with the same oil consumption and water pump issues. Guess it took em a few years to fix it.
I think its all part of manufacturers competing to give consumers the most fun (performance) while still maintaining incredibly good fuel economy. People want reliability too at least while they still own the car but durability isn't important anymore because they're going to trade it in soon on the next fun model.
NEVER NEVER bring your car into the dealer for any work They will damage your car, because they want you to buy a new one
Mark,
This is the perfect time I’ve been looking for this comparison
And once again this video is brilliant I love the little touches that you put into the research
You’re amazing and you’re awesome
I’m going to share it with family and friends
My very best wishes to you always from Las Vegas Craig
This video is 10 stars out of 5
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Cool story bro
I've owned 6 Hondas. Never had a problem with any of them. However my next vehicle will be a Toyota. Just want to try one.
They’re both great but Toyota is another level. OEM parts are readily availability almost forever because Toyota expects the cars to last to the point where it’s get boring.
Subaru no bueno
I sold new Honda's and we also sold many preowned Toyota's. I never met one customer that regretted buying either brand.
I used to buy Hondas all the time.. I switched to Toyota because of the turbo engines and CVT transmissions.. I feel a lot more confident in a new Toyota vers Honda...
@@michaelmiller4606 Both great brands.. I drove new Accords for 20 years.. and switch to Camry in 2020.
Good Morning Mark. Wanted to congratulate you as it looks like you will be reaching 200k soon. Have a great weekend.
I’d take a K24 Honda motor over a 2AZ-FE Toyota any day
I have a 2004 Honda Accord EX Sedan w/268k miles and it still runs and drives flawlessly. It has the K24A4 2.4l mated to the 5sp manual transmission that still shifts nicely. The only thing that needs to be addressed is a recharge of the AC, and everything else is working properly as it should. Love the car, I suspect it will last another 268k miles.
I noticed mark does not get his hands dirty like my boy Scotty
I agree 💯. When comes to owning a car. U have to stay on top of the maintenance, fluid changes and part replacement intervals. U do that. Your good
I've owned both. In my experience Toyota has some weak links in some engines (they ONLY get 200k before they start burning oil) whereas their v-engines are amazingly reliable. Toyota's real strength is in their transmissions. I've seen Toyota master service technicians who said, in 20 years, they've only changed oil on transmission and have never seen one in the shop for mechanical failure. The way Toyota planned their lineup explains a lot: they added a ton of hybrids so they could meet their fuel standards, and then just put v-6's and v-8's that aren't great on gas mileage, but excel at reliability, in their best-selling SUV's and trucks. Ford and GM are trying to hit their fuel standards by more and more hi-tech engines that are more and more complex, that tend to be less reliable.
I’ve had my 95 Corolla for a while. Just got a 06 sienna. I know the previous owner and I’ve worked on this sienna. It is flawless on the trans and 3.3 engine it has.
Wether good or bad, my Tundra cost me $500 in brake maintenance after 2.5 years. At 35 000 kms I needed two new front rotors...$250. Considering how big the rotors are, i was surprised they didn't cost more. Overall, the 20 Tundra is very good. My wife's RAV 4 has 130 000 kms and only big repair was AC last year. Not bad for a 7yo SUV.
You don't drive much, then. I put 35,000 miles on every year. 😆
My 2018 Honda Civic EXT with the 1.5 liter turbo CVT, bought new, June 2018.
As of February 6 2023: 133,750 miles averaging 34.6 mpg. Not a single problem other than the AC system recall. So far, very reliable with excellent performance.
Really? I have 2018 honda civic hatchback cvt 1.5 liter turbo with almost 46,000 miles. I know i don't drive much, people said cvt is bad, but definitely not bad for honda and toyota.
@@huyvo1586 definitely not! I work in service at a Honda dealer, we DO NOT have problems with the CVTs. Nissan has the trash cvts you probably hear a lot about.
We actually have more problems out of the automatic transmissions in Pilots. Civics are essentially bulletproof, they will need AC work at some point yes but other than that extremely mechanically solid. We do not have issues out of new civics, even the turbos on the 1.5t hatchbacks don’t seem to go out; Can’t say the same for the accords unfortunately :(
You’ve got yourself a great car, just take care of it and it’ll go 300k miles. Be prepared for ac repairs though at some point and if you take any slightly major frontal impacts make sure to get your cooling fans + radiator checked as the condenser will be pushed and rub against the radiator. That’s the only other downside to the modern Civic I can think of besides ac is that they don’t handle frontal impacts very well.
Good to hear. I’m purchasing a 2020-2021 Hatchback in about a months time, definitely will be putting quite a few miles on it so always satisfies me to see my decision is wise
I have a 2017 CRV touring 1,5 turbo 100,000k on it and no issues... Really love it!!
Excellent and very true summaries of these vehicles. I agree with all your points.
Very thoughtful video. Tip top.
Great job with this comparison! Keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
My V6 Accord has been great as long as you disable VSM and change the inline trans filter. Brake rotor swap is easy. Toyota and Nissan feel cheaper inside but the n/a motors seem pretty good
I know that it's cold 🥶 in Canada 🇨🇦 but those great cars deserve a bath . I love your informative videos and I would love to have a Camry or Avalon
Great comparison Mark, looks chilly in your hood 🇨🇦✌️❤️ it’s sunny & 20 here in the Rockies 🥶
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I own a 2016 Toyota Camry SE (bought new), had very little and inexpensive repairs! Overall I'm very happy with my decision to buy a Toyota (2nd one I've owned) and would buy again if I had to do it again! Good video!
Reliable but very boring slow not many features
@@issavibez394 was going to say the same thing.
07 se here. 145k miles. I like the 15 to 17's. I have had more repairs than I would have thought - new front bearings, new control arms., new water pump,, new alternator. bought with 106k in 18. for the last 25k had all these issues. engine and tranny solid. I guess every car needs repairs. also drive in northern NJ and brooklyn/staten island. doesnt help either.
I like the DIY friendly on these two makes.
Appreciate you. Thanks for the vid.
Thank you for these informative videos. Looks like you’ve had a very cold winter in Canada this year. We have had a very mild winter on the East Coast of the United States middle Atlantic states. 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks for reaching out. Actually most of our winter has been decent but recently we got a blast of real cold
I bought an 03 Corolla new. After 20 years and over 250K miles it's still amazing. I just rebooted the axles and replaced the struts/shocks within the last 25K. I've had to replace 3 of 4 wheel bearings and I rebuilt the starter. None of these repairs were particularly expensive using OEM parts. Ok, replacing the front wheel bearing was a bit more difficult than it should've been but whatever, I have a friend with a press. My 16 Camry V6 has been a pain in the ass by comparison. After Toyota replaced both muffler heat shields for wallowing out and falling off I fabricated a new set out of .90" aluminum since it's out of warranty. If I could buy another 03 Corolla with a 5 speed like mine brand new today I'd do it.
Still original clutch on that 03 Corolla?
@E.R.videography No, I had to replace the main input shaft bearing at 114K. The original clutch felt soft and disengaged only at the very top of the pedal. When I pulled the trans that clutch was still 80% but I'd already ordered the replacement.
@@randyduncan795 wow! Impressive.
My 2003 Tacoma has 292000 miles. Original clutch, water pump, rotors, alternator and brake fluid, coolant also original. I just replaced 3 rubber belts for the first time. Not a single drop of fluid leaking. Exhaust pipe also clean.
@@chonghwang8028 A friend who bought an 87 Corolla new tried that. He had a bad head gasket before 100K. That was an otherwise great car whose life was cut short by lack of maintenance. My Corolla has seen very high speeds since new but I get about 100K out of front pads and got 200K out of the original rear shoes. I have replaced 3/4 wheel bearings but Michelin tires also last half their rated mileage if I'm lucky. Maybe my right front bearing was inadequately lubed from the factory. But it still went 160K.
True about Mazda. Ours has over 300,000 kms and is 33 y.o with no major repairs. Lovely interior, great steering, lovely to drive.
Good video, very thorough explanation as usual, Mark. More exp. w/Toyota myself, but I always liked Honda and wondered how they compare nowadays. My parents still have their '07 & '09 Camrys 4cyl, no
major problems, but both gently driven, and I still see these on the roads here. (Anyway, off to watch TCCN's review of the Rav4...)
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Worked with a guy who worked in Honda workshop previously, and he said it was boring as they rarely ever broke down and only ever came in for services and occasional battery issue.
One time as a kid, my mom's car broke down and she needed car quickly and cheaply, and her boyfriend's friend had a Honda Accord sat on drive for about 5 years and never driven.
Jump started it and it ran like a dream.
Eventually she got rid as it was expensive to run, but was unreal how it ran after sitting there unused for so long
The most reliable to least reliable brand from 32 car brands:
1. Honda
2. Acura
3. KIA
4. Hyundai
5. Mazda
6. Mitsubishi
7. Genesis/Lexus
8. Toyota
9. Nissan
10. SMART
11. Chrysler
12. Volkswagen
13. Buick
14. Subaru
15. Jeep
16. Infiniti
17. Volvo
18. Fiat
19. Dodge
20. Chevy
21. Ford
22. GMC
23. RAM
24. Lincoln
25. Mini
26. Cadillac
27. Mercedes Benz
28. Audi
29. Jaguar
30. BMW
31. Land Rover
32. Porsche
Thank me later.
Accurate list.
Mazda is far more reliable than Kia and Hyundai
@@JonathanRogler not according to repairpal. Hyundai and KIA is above mazda
Hard for me to believe KIA & Hyundai more reliable than Toyota.
@@billfunk3168 you do know toyota cause problems right? And also, toyota had 20k recalls for their rav4 prime hybrid system
I had seen so many Honda (including Japanese built models) have weak slushbox transmission. Avoid slushbox automatic on used Hondas unless it was properly maintained and taken care off.
Sold my 2004 Accord EX 4cyl about 10yrs ago when it had 165,000 on the OD. I had never done any major work to the vehicle, only oil changes and replaced the starter. I just saw the car at a stop light not to long ago. Still going strong. Hondas are amazing.
Great Video!
My daughter drives a 2005 Honda Accord ex , no problems, just regular maintenance, if you maintain these cars , Camry or Accord they will run for ever
Original owner 2005 Toyota Sienna van 2007 Honda Civic EX both maintained. No major problems. Mark I have had to replace both visors on Civic which you mentioned. I feel both vehicles have a lot of life left in them. Excellent video Mark.
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I bought myself a little mazda cx-30 and i love it. I liked the old corolla i had too but im not a fan of the cvt tranmssions. The 4 speed auto in my old corolla was great can't believe they changed it for those junky cvt's.
Still driving my son’s 2002 Camry with 197,000 miles and counting and only replaced the catalytic converters
Thanks for the video! I was never aware Mazda was making such reliable cars honestly, you earned yourself a new subscriber, keep up the good work! :)
Coincidentally Toyota basically replaced ford as a shareholder with them as well around the time they went up in reliability
My friends dad bought a 1996 Honda Accord Coupe V6 from Show room. Still runs today
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I'm driving a 33 year old Honda Civic and a 25 year old Honda Civic regularly... nearly a million miles on them.
The most reliable car i've had is my current 2003 GTI VR6, with the 2.8L naturally aspirated 24v 2nd gen VR6 (not the 12v). I've had this car as my daily driver for 20... yes you read that correctly... TWENTY years now (purchased it new in October 2002)! It has a 6-speed manual. The car still has the original chains on it as well! No transmission problems whatsoever, and only a failed cooling fan, valve cover gasket, and some MAF sensors. Other than yearly synthetic oil changes (and filter), it's cost me next to nothing to maintain! It doesn't even burn oil between yearly changes... the oil level stays the same.... amazing! Total mechanical issues over the 2 decades probably cost me about $1700 to fix! It only takes Premium Unleaded though, and I think the Shell Premium I use has helped keep the engine and valves in great shape. Without a doubt, the 2.8L, 24v VR6 is VW's most reliable engine ever built! Frankly, i'm pleasantly surprised!
For the past twenty years I have owned two Acuras. The first one needed an oxygen sensor once. The second has never had anything fail after 12 years and 100k miles. Just basic maintenance and consumables. I would say the only area where Honda might have a weakness compared to Toyota is paint and some automatic transmissions.
Both last very well. I’d give Toyota a slight edge, still running a 2004 RAV4, almost trouble free. Had some trouble with a 2008 Civic, more to do with sun visors and fittings, but otherwise reliable
No Honda is no1
@@bustadmin1159 Personal experience. Yours might be different. Hondas are very good, but personally I’ve had better service with Toyotas
@@riazhassan6570 The best Toyotas are the early 90s Corollas & Camrys & Acura legends . These are rock solid cars.
A problem with a sun visor is a problem 😂
My 2009 Accord V6 has been great so far. Of course it only has 92,000 miles on it, has always been very well serviced and has never beat on by us. Are there some minor squeaks, and rattles that Hondas didn’t have in the 1980s, yes, but functionally, it’s been a good car.
Got 2 Accords in my stable
2000 Accord 2.3L with 380k
2003 Accord V6 with 220k
Both running fine after all these yrs, both bought used
Accords are tanks!!!
My brother has a 2010 Honda Accord they bought with 60,000 miles. Now at 230,000 miles. They hate it. It has bad piston rings and it fouls the spark plugs at the most inconvenient times and Honda refused to replace the rings. They wish Honda would have stood behind their product.
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What Cheap Poor Quality oil did he use ?
Keep up Proper Maintenence with Quality oil n Honda Engines Run Literally Forever
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Synthetic. 2010 was a bad year for piston rings. One of my co-workers also has a 2010 V-6 Accord with only 200,000 and burns oil so bad, he pushed it into the trees.
I ditched Honda for Toyota in 2018 after I dumped my Civic 1.5 that was oil diluting like crazy and not warming up in cold weather. Give me my Toyota non-turbo’d 2.5 with port and direct injection, non CVT “normal” automatic transmission and proven AWD system all day long
What year was the Civic Red?
I bought my 2012 Camry brand new, today 02/05/2023, it has over 258,000 miles. I still run every day to and from work.
I once owned a used 1999 Saturn SL1 for nearly 10 years, only issues were a valve gasket early in ownership and then a radiotor near end of ownership. Solid in between those issues. After that I bought a used 2006 Kia Spectra that right after purchase it ended up melting part of an electrical harnest. I only owned the Kia for a few months and ended up spending $1800 to fix, but was solid for 5 years after that. Next in 2019, I bought a used 2010 Scion Xb. I had alignment issues at the get-go that took a little $ to sort out, but I attribute that to the previous owner having oversized wheels/tires (that I replaced with an OEM set up) and their lack of maintenance to fix it. Since then I had an emissions code that a new gas cap fixed and most recently an alternator go out. Granted all my cars have been used but every car is going to have faults. I just try to buy simple vehicles with as few electical do-dads and complex whachyamacallits that I can.
I like a toyota Is the best car by fire
Had a 2017 1.5L T engine Civic Sport. I was aware of the oil delusion problem these models had and changed the oil frequently every 3K to 3.5K miles and had no issues. Traded for an Si @ 98K miles.
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If people would change the oil at every 3K they would not have any trouble and the engines would..
What is you opinion on the Mazda CX50? Going to test drive on. Thanks.
I have a CX5 premium non turbo no issues. The handling and interior are the the best in the segment. wife has a cx30 turbo, it's really fun to drive. Get the turbo. We have a 2016 Camry that one of our kids is driving zero issues, just boring. My twins both have Corolla's zero issues just slow pokes.
2001 Echo. It shakes, rattles, and rolls. No major issues yet. Plan on keeping it for ,any more years.
A "cold" start is an understatement. "Arctic" start?
That's for sure.. my car's stay in the basement garage and the temperature stays between 60 and 70 degrees all year-long regardless of outside temperatures.
I had both, last one I bought a new Accord but by 70k it had lots of issues. I also had Camry that drove close to 240k miles without issues.
2018-2020 Accords are definitely a problematic generation of the accord unfortunately. Specifically fuel injectors. Honda in general has issues with fuel injectors in recent years but we cover replacement of those under a warranty extension once you get the code for it on the Pilots and Ridgelines thankfully but not the accords, so once you get that dreaded catalyst + misfire code and you don’t have extended warranty you will be paying $1200-1400 out of pocket for fuel injector job. Also turbos go out on accords of those years if not very carefully taken care of usually between 100-150k miles
What’s your opinion on Subaru Forester 2019 and newer? I live in Rhode Island.
Great video and explanation about Honda and Toyota. 😊
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We have owned many Toyotas and they have always proven to be reliable with very few issues. We owned a V6 Honda Accord that had about 60,000 miles on it when one cylinder started to misfire. Said to pull over immediately and we did; had it towed to a dealer who charged $200 to diagnose and replace ONE spark plug which is identical to what happened to a friend of ours in another state. The Accord transmission was also not something to jump up and down about so No More Hondas.
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Yeah that’s why I do preventative maintenance, I swapped plugs my self
What are the known issues with the CRV? Just want to know, because sometimes when I get in it the car randomly locks and arms itself, then I have to unlock the car with the fob. I'm worried that one day if I get out of it the alarm might go off. It's a 2021 model.
We have a 17. No issues like that. You don't have any software updates due, do you?
Got a 2017 touring no issues...
I got 2019 camry le same as this one just le no issues at all 72k . Just cheap interior and way too low carpet kinda cheap too. My old camry 2005 over 300k orig engine transmission front end starter alternator . beseides brakes tires oil i did pvc valve spark plugs radiator thermestat oh and engine mount 10$ DIY . Great videos a lot knowledge whats your take on keeping original transmission fluid long term?
Another great episode! God bless Canada!
Both are good. I wouldn't pick one over the other in terms of reliability.
Most of it comes down to style if I'm choosing between the 2
I think the other interesting thing to mention is, even if they do go wrong you won't be ripped off like a Mercedes, BMW or Audi. As you pointed out as an example Mark, $200 for a hose, hilarious.
The Toyota A25A engine shown in this video does use an electric water pump, not mechnical.
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What about the honda 2.0 turbo, is it unreliable, will I have problems 🤔
No
My 2001 Corolla still runs great with only routine maintenance. When buying a new Toyota would you always recommend one manufactured in Japan over those made here in the states?
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Depends
I'm still driving 1991 Honda Accord 2.0 Exi Programmed FI manual transmission still very responsive and pick up acceleration is damn good. 32 years old still running good.
The Civic LX trim with 2.0L N/A engine are solid and as long lasting. And as for Tranny, just go for a 6 Speed Manual if you can drive it, you won't have any issues.
Both are excellent choices, but Toyota does have a slight edge if your desire is to keep it until it no longer runs….Seals, gaskets ( rubber) quality , Toyota edges out Honda…just my humble opinion 😢
Thats a very solid opinion actually! I write service here at a Honda dealer and All Hondas will need valve cover gasket, spool valve, VTC screen or much much worse… rear main seal replacement at around 100k miles. That rear main seal is such a costly labor intensive job though I would honestly just ride with it and keep a check on oil level. Valve cover gasket and spool valve are fairly simple tho especially valve cover.
I never worked for Toyota but I imagine they don’t need those gaskets and seals replaced nearly as often?
Agree.
@@shaunkennedy174 no they just need their frames replaced that often
My experience has been that Toyota reliability is a myth. Have a 2020 Sienna Limited Premium V6 that has had 2 low pressure fuel pumps replaced in less than 25K miles, power 3rd row seats that repeatedly failed from day one, along with a rattle in the cargo area that can't be found. All of this for an MSRP of over $52K. Never again.
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That's why buy older if you can
It's not a myth. Tens of millions of people have had faultless experiences with Toyotas over many decades. Your experience is not everyone elses.
Sometimes you get a bad apple in the bunch. It happens..
What do you think about the 2011 Honda Odyssey touring
Do you still get 2yr complementary maintenence for used Toyota? Or is that only for new Toyota cars?
I was looking to buy a 2023 Pilot, mush has changed but I wonder how reliable the 3.5 engine is. It also has changed to a 10 speed transmission which would be the first year of it and that makes me a little nervous. I know Toyota's Highlanders are great, I've had one for 13 years now with over 200k miles. But, I want a new SUV but something different. Suggestions? Oh, I'm not going to pay 4k markup for a Kia either. Great info Mark!
Honda has been using the 10 spd in the Accord and Odyssey for a few years now. Great transmissions with no known issues.
Honda still uses interference timing belt driven engine in their 3.5liter engines. They are bullet proof but those belts snap and your engine is done. Timing belt service will cost you $700-1500. Wouldn’t be my first choice. My 2007 Pilot had 215k miles when I sold it few weeks ago. My brother had his 2007 Odyssey timing belt snap at 110k miles and had to junk it.
Both make great vehicles but as a mechanic who has experienced Both I'd give toyota the edge in reliability especially when you compare the v6 engines
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I work for a 100 car fleet taxi company, 16 years ago the fleet was dominated by domestic cars (Malibus, Impalas, Taurus, Caravans, etc), but it was quickly changing to Toyota and Honda. These days, they are using a lot of Kias and Hyundais , which aren't great but still much better than any of the domestic vehicles. Maintenance costs are 50% lower across the board on imports vs. domestics. The domestic cars (especially Malibu), are notoriously unreliable and horrifically uncomfortable. One thing we are noticing is the difference between 9th and 10th gen Civics, the 10th gen transmissions really can't hold up in the taxi business. The Toyotas are certainly the most reliable.
I’ve got a 2009 Honda Accord Euro Luxury Navi CU2 that has done just about 240,000kms. I average 600-700km range per tank using Premium Unleaded 98 RON. Engine is a 2.4L i-Vtech using 5W30 GTS Motor Oil. Engine has been rebuilt only once due to previous owner using incorrect fuel grade and recently replaced starter engine. Car still drives exceptionally well for its age. Recently completed an interstate trip and fuel economy was so good, it didn’t need a refill from full tank to destination in a 7 hour drive and still had range left.
If I combine my Integra, Civic Si and my Parents Lexus, they combined for about 700K miles. My GTI and my moms BMW combine for about 330K miles but probably twice the price in maintenance and repairs. in fact Id say we spent the same amount on each German car than 3 Japanese cars combines. I think I just prefer Honda and VW, just because they are more fun from my experience to drive.
That’s often the typical results for many as well
@@ECPP Perfect example, the GTI and the Si both had oil leak repairs. The GTI was nearly 1000 USD and the Si was less than 200 USD. The clutch on my Civic was 1000 dollars and the GTI was 2200. The GTI was good for the first 180K. now at 210K Ive spent money on AC, coolant, oil leak, timing chain, its like I rebought its I might as well drive it to 225K. The Civic Is, just passed 280K and I still drive it up into VTEC a lot.
@chris vergara yeah I'm probably going to dump the VW at 150k. Granted at my current rate thats like 15 years. I'll probably want a new car by then anyway.
My 2009 Corolla has been great!
If taken care, Corollas can go a million miles.
@Malibu Man new ones still good? Considering possibly a Corolla Hybrid for a commuter. However I won't need a car for years to come.
Got an 1.3L 07 hybrid civic. I have no idea if it had a CVT or hybrid battery replaced before I got it handed down from my mother. Been driving it since 2015 and its gone from around 115k to over 185k on the ODO and the only parts ive had replaced are the 12V battery and spark plugs. I could mention brake pads, tires, plus oil changes but I consider those to be normal maintenance. Valves are definitely noisy now and need a tune up and it has bad transmission mounts so it vibrates some while driving but it still starts right up, drives strong and gets 35MPG in the city to this day.
I'm a 4 x Honda owner and love this product, I currently have a 2012 Accord LX, my second. With regular maintenance, no problems, I never understood how Toyota could maintain their top rating with all their issues,
Have a 2010 Acura MDX with the 3.7 litre six cylinder. A failing common with that engine is bad piston rings. Burned oil like you wouldn't believe. However, Honda replaced the piston rings for free since it was under 125K miles. The service was done with 115K miles.
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Generally hondas problem is its road noise and cranky suspension. But its nicer to drive.
TOTALLY AGREE
At least the newest Civics were given stronger frame (torsional rigidity) and liquid filled rubber control arm bushings. But for the noise factors 2016 saw too much road noise that could be far less if desired while 2022 saw them improve solidity of doors, reduce road noise, and improve engine note.
@@jamesmedina2062 i suspect honda deliberately reduce its sound dampening to have an edge on weight thus improve handling.
Here in Europe Toyota has serious problems with excessive motor oil consumption on older cars.
I have a 2020 Toyota highlander, the problem that I have is the front disk vibration & air Tires sensors went is to cold.