ALIEN: ROMULUS - A Pretty & Thrilling Imperfect Organism
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- Following Disney's acquisition of 20th Century Fox, "Alien: Romulus" arrived with the challenge of living up to its predecessors while aligning with a new corporate vision of scrapping originality in favour of nostalgia.
The original "Alien" film is celebrated for its simplicity, essentially a haunted house narrative set in space. When at its best, Romulus understands and seeks to replicate this formula, creating an environment where the audience feels the claustrophobia and dread with the characters trapped on a spaceship.
In an effort to encapsulate what fans cherish about the earlier films, Álvarez attempts to blend the horror-driven, claustrophobic atmosphere of "Alien" with the action-oriented "Aliens," with nods to almost every other film in the franchise. The result is a film divided much like its setting, the twin stations Romulus and Remus, combining elements of a haunted house in space with a horror-action narrative.
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Seeing Zuckerberg in this movie was such a shock 😱
😂
Suckerberg
I can't lie... I adored this movie. To me, its a stark opposite to Covenant. Covenant was a Prometheus movie trying to force Alien into it for the entirety of it and it felt terrible. This film however felt like an Alien film trying to connect Prometheus to the franchise, which is what Covenant SHOULD'VE been from the start. I adore this film because it feels like an actual damn Alien film which we haven't gotten since, in my opinion, since the second film. Nothing comes close to those two masterpieces, and this one gets pretty damn close. Not quite there, but close.
this is a great film, totally agree
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@@kingayrton8327irony coming from your username bro
I really like this one too. I keep going back and forth between this one and Alien 3 to decide which is my 3rd favorite of the franchise
@@kingayrton8327lol negative.
It made $118 million dollars at the box office!
Fede Alvarez is hoping to do a reboot of ALIEN VS PREDATOR with another Director, taking place on a colonized planet at the edge of the galaxy.
That’s one week it could make more but it had an incredible first 3 days making 100 million in 3 days. So it’s starting to drop off but I think it’ll keep pulling in money slowly.
I hope this time predator won and complete their mission and went back home successfully.
I played many avp games psp,ps1,PS2,PS3 and PC. In games predator always execute their mission on earth and escape went back to their planet. But I always hated predator on movies. Sure they strong and badass, but predator in movies always dies in the end. They die by xeno or getting nuked lol. I hope fede Alvarez did focus on 1 predator and make character development for this 1 predator and he will become stronger each hunt.
@@neilgaming2127they always sacrifice themselves lmao like every time
It made over 300mil now.
You mean like the first book?? Should have done that originally
There's somethin' in the wuh-tur!
I couldn’t understand half the stuff Bjorn was saying lol
Facehugger be like: 'I've heard enough, time for you to STFU!'
In the wuh ah?
It’s chewsday innit
I can’t be the only one who was wishing for subtitles in the first 20 minutes. My girlfriend is Chinese, she was totally lost 😂
“Hybrid a fusion of human, xenomorph and Mark Zuckerberg”. That was brilliant 🤩 at 29:19
The zuckermorph lol
I died laughing soon as I heard that name!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀
In regard to Rain being able to take out a bunch of Xenos where the marines were wiped out, I'd point to the marines firstly being surrounded in an area where they Xenos were already positioned in every direction, mostly disarmed (and limited to flame units - useless in an area with friendly targets) with only a couple of exceptions. By contrast, Rain had to deal with a narrow corridor limiting the Xenomorphs to only attacking from a single direction - a situation far more akin to the autogun scene from the director's cut of Aliens, where two completely unmanned turrets successfully held off a massive wave of far more Xenomorphs without being destroyed.
Put her in the same situation as the marines at the atmosphere processor and she'd have been just as dead as most of they were.
As someone else has already pointed out, the pulse rifles essentially being more advanced versions that used the tech resembling the much larger smartguns from Aliens could easily be put down to military/government cost cutting, vs a private company that seems to practically just print money. That coupled with the fact that WY (excluding Burke) clearly put zero faith in any of Ripley's accounts leads to a situation where you'd have to ask why they'd waste expensive equipment on a mission like that? If they put any stock in Ripley's warnings then firstly they'd have sent more than a single representative to ensure the Aliens were preserved for study, and a lot more troops (likely an entire backup unit in case the first ran into trouble)
Instead they deployed a Lt who had only seen a single non-training mission, a junior executive and a squad with a single pilot (despite the Sulaco clearly being equipped to carry a lot more) -if that's the personnel choice they went with, no way they get anything resembling the "best" equipment (and you need only look to our own militaries to see how long some equipment can last in service - the British Army for example still uses a rifle from the 1980s as it's primary small arms for infantry, so if the rifle WY had was cutting edge, it's older version could still *easily* be in use by the time of Aliens as the mass-produced weapon of choice, leaving the advanced version to special forces and private contractors to save that precious money)
I feel like the people who have an issue with rain have no issues with ripley rescuing newt solo. Didn't even blink when rain killed the aliens, it felt really intense and hit didn't know whether she get them all
One Rain was quickly shown the basics of the Pulse Rifle two the riffle has auto aim which means you can never miss just hit the trigger it really didn’t bother me. In Aliens the sentry guns did the same thing they had auto aim and pretty much killed all the aliens in the tunnel until it ran out of ammo. The marines in the hive were surrounded and were getting killed from all angles.
It was only 4 or 5 she killed they are acting like she wiped out an entire platoon. It's ridiculous
Wooooow there,.... keep it short ;)
Totally agree. One the DUMBEST things is it STUCK OUT to everyone going in there they was literally doing the equivalent to stripping down n lubing up for the Xenos too... They KNEW they was about to get bent over an SCREWED royally. An they was according to Lore not just a random Platoon but other then LT almost all them was distinguished Combat Vets too.. which means very little when you take away 85% of their effective firepower an put them in positions where they can't turn the tables on the Xenos or at least just protect themselves an one or 2 others.
An if you count the Video Games they ACTUALLY had a whole backup company too... BUT they barely fared much better an mass majority of them didn't last alot longer either
I think Bjorn trying to kill it in the pod was actually pretty smart. We think its dumb because we already know he isnt going to. But it would be at its most vulnerable in the pod and he did damage it.
Uuumm this thing just burst from my friend's chest, its pointing a huge stinger towards me, so lets hit it with a Rod instead of locking it in here and regrouping with my friends...what could go wrong...and if it showers acid, just stay under it and dont roll over to try to scape....
@@Codigoduro1the “stinger” didn’t come out till after he zapped the xeno & injured it...
I agree! I think people would have enjoyed it more if he didn't just lay there when he the acid got him. Like, maybe if he would have scrambled to remove his shirt but it was too late and then while we were shown the acid eating his skin, the stinger could have stabbed him. Its easy to think it was a bad idea when he dies in such a silly way, but a more involved death would have made it more sympathetic.
@@Codigoduro1let’s be honest he doesn’t know what it is. It killed his girlfriend and was a threat to their ship so he tried to get rid of it. His plan was actually smart, the only dumb thing he did was stick around staring at the tail tip. BUT he doesn’t know WHAT it is. He’s assuming it’s dead based on the amount of electricity he fired into it and that it should’ve died. Now the sitting and let acid fall over him was a little slow and dumb and not a real reaction because most people would’ve realized that the dripping liquid was causing them pain and they would’ve moved, also I’m having a hard time understanding why the xenomorph took both Bjorn and his gf’s body’s… they don’t need to eat and both were dead so what was the point in that
@@jmoney9954if you watch it again, you’ll remember that the cocoon was on their only escape ship. You’re totally right, he was pissed and knew this was his best chance to escape by killing it while it’s vulnerable. To answer your last question: the Xenomorphs in the film are Drones. They capture live prey and bring them back to their nests. They then use resin secretion to fix the prey to the wall, in front of Eggs. That’s why there were more than one Xenomorph drones towards the end. It’s also why the damaged drone caught Rain and saved her, there was a facehugger shown nearby and it wanted to emplant her and let her get to the cryopod.
That big reveal at the end made my theatre gasp and fall suddenly silent. What a great showing!
David Jonsson's acting absolutely blew me away, I was NOT expecting for the synthetic to be my favorite character in the movie. He has an incredible ability to perfectly portray empathy with his facial expressions, so much so that I got very upset when Andy would malfunction. The movie wasn't perfect, but the actors were fantastic.
I agree
Same, he was fantastic. Such talent.
This review is what is best for the company.
Building better worldbuilding 😂
Hear! Hear!
Ha😂perfect
This is a subtle dig and I love it
@@filmcomicsexplained Honestly I understand why (in verse) they brought back Daniel(Ash/Rook) rather than Lance (Bishop) because remember in aliens, Ripley freaked out learning Bishop was a synthetic when they were all eating and bishop specifically states that the models before him with malfunctioning and they got rid of them. If this takes place years before aliens, this is probably why they went this route. They probably tried prosthetics but you know studios. Especially sense Disney is “proud” of the deepfakes. If Fede Alvarez used all prosthetics for the most part and doesn’t have a history of using CGI like that, this points to Disney being the culprit. And of course no one can say anything about it. Big Mickey requires your silence 🙄
Saying that the prequel movie (Prometheus) ruined the “mystique” of the xenomorph just grinds my gears so fucking much. Like tf did you expect ?
Like “mastering fire really ruined the mystique of freezing to death for me.” Like what??
The prequels didn't even ruin the mystique of the alien anyway: the prequels still don't reveal the origin of the alien. The engineers have murals of the alien and face huggers on their walls. At no point do the prequels reveal any of it.
@@nicholasgordon4999 precisely. we still don’t know
Typically horror is based around mystique, this is movies like quiet place more or less turn into action movies at a certain point because the monster is revealed and it’s no longer scary, I don’t understand your comparison to real life as that’s completely unrelated.
@@RustCohle1773 Revealing a monster appearance/explaining their origin has never made a movie not scary... your movie just wasn't scary enough. Most of the oldest horror stories still being adapted to this day are about monsters whose origins have been More than fleshed out so that makes even less sense. This was a biased pov driven by his preferences of how the story should've been told and that's always a slippery slope. The concept of "now that I know the origin about what's killing me makes it less scary or capable' is ridiculous is the point of the comparison.
Mark Zuckerberg catching strays lol
Sorry idc, I was beaming the entire time I was watching Romulus - it was the best Alien movie we got since the sequel and the critics and audiences seem to be in agreement ! imo it would’ve been cowardly to ignore Prometheus and covenant ever existed and I’m glad Alvarez paid homage to those films and made their plot elements genuinely terrifying and in line w the feeling of an alien movie. Most of the criticisms I’ve seen have been extremely nit-picky (including pulling out a physics textbook to criticise the premise of the opening sequence which was beautifully shot btw) which is a sign of a great film !
Idk why people are so upset, they were trying to tie all the movies together. This is a bridge movie! Not only paying homepage to Alien & Aliens but bridging the Prometheus & Covenant to the Alien franchise.
@@jmoney9954that was one of the problems with the film for me! It felt like Álvarez had three versions of the script and couldn’t decided which one to choose so just smashed them all together and called it a day. It just felt like no one knew what film they were trying to make until they released it.
@@isaacbasilchambers9934 I think it more had to do with Ridley Scott. You can tell the first two or three acts were Alvarez and the fourth act you can clearly see the Scott influence. The second the goo is mentioned it’s clear as day where Ridley’s input and directive came in. If they had just not done the fourth act the movie would’ve been an almost solid 10/10
@@isaacbasilchambers9934 my Main problem is the offspring design… because WHO THE FUCK signed off on THAT design? The Neomorph from Covenant looked more like an Offspring than whatever the fuck that Engineer Alien Human Hybrid thing was. I also think because of how good the physical visual effects were that it made the CGI Offspring and Rook look a little worse for wear
@@jmoney9954 yeah that was ummm… a choice 😬😬
My main issue with the film (and I have many) was the pacing, it just felt off, and I didn’t like how late they left it to introduce any xenomorphs. I think it worked great for the first film and has had its place in others. But this is the ninth instalment now, we all know what’s going to happen! It just meant they ended up trying to cram so much alien mythology, both new and old, into a space of about 50 minutes that it made so much of the character development feel like a waste of time. Idk I have a lot of problems with this movie, I had such high expectations and it didn’t meet any of them for me. This is definitely my least favourite film in the entire alien franchise.
David did not create the alien species. That was never suggested. He re-created his own variant, based on the DNA present in the goo of the engineers, who used the goo as a bio-weapon. The true origins of the alien as a species is still unknown and could be anyone's guess. There may well be a world, or worlds of aliens out there, which the engineers had come across, and they repurposed the deadly creature into a portable intergalactic bio-weapon.
There are murals of the aliens on the walls in the facility in Prometheus which seems to indicate they already existed prior to the goo, or at least implies they exist in the form we recognize already at that point in the story. David seems to have found how to isolate that genetic material and cloned them.
He created the xenomorph seen in alien 1-4.
Before that existed another kind of alien that the xeno is based upon. You see it in the mural and you see it in alien Covenant. In the end of alien Covenant we see the first version of the xenomorph and it's assumed perfected by David during the flight away from the planet in the ship with all the humans in stasis.
Ridley's intention was that David created them, yet as every fan knows its an awful idea we cope with the variant version, so even if I agree with that part it was indeed suggested by both the movie and Ridley himself.
@@NimrodTheMaidenlessthen how do we or how does Ridley explain the mural? Also i never heard him say that in the BTS I've watched.
@@MikeTall88no he didn't lol. The ship on LV-217 or whatever is a different ship, obviously a different engineer, who died because of a chest burster. How would have David gotten xenomorph eggs to another engineer who was obviously en route to somewhere with them?
27:19 if I remember correctly, its revealed a face hugger is nearby. The alien caught rain to have her get impregnated by the face hugger is my thinking, but I could be wrong.
it was the perfect set up, sure there's a basketball term that would fit better but idk basketball.
@@theeLonelyRedPanda lmfao that's funny
you are correct. the facehugger showing up was very quick, so im sure many people missed it
100% agree. The Alien is not dumb. Considering it knew Andy was a droid, as far as it was concerned: Rain was the only remaining human alive. So the ideal choice was to impregnate her with the Face Hugger and than allow her or escape with her on the shuttle. I loved seeing that because even when it was aware of the situation on the station, it still thought solely of survival, wanting to ensure another would be born through Rain.
@@benvoli0c977 yup. You get it. The scorched xenomorph is actually really intelligent if you think about it.
People need to appreciate the fact that we got a great Alien Isolation adaptation....that's it. Be happy that the movie is a fan service chef's kiss
Oh my god, so many TH-camrs are WAY over analyzing the science and physics. People, virtually NONE of the science in Alien movies makes sense. They travel hundreds of light years in months. Every single Alien movie changes the lifecycle and rules of xenomorphs because behind the scenes, the decision makers all disagree with one another’s visions. This movie has an incredible vibe and “feeling” everyone is loving. The most accurate negative critique you gave is the movie buckling under the weight of a messy franchise, largely due to Ridley Scott’s overinflated ego and influence.
The TH-camrs are actually analyzing the science and physics - badly. They get it all wrong.
I still wish we got Ridley Scott's last prequel movie. I wanted to see what happened to David.
Not everyone is "loving it", and they have the right to critique it.
@@NotMorganFreeman. I didn’t say they can’t critique it. My eyes just roll into the back my head like Andy’s when I watch a review that hyper critiques the science and physics of this movie while not minding any of the other physics breaking things that happen. Like the blood for example: “thaaaats not how fluid acts in zero gravity😏” meanwhile ignoring it’s impossible for xenomorph blood to exist at all, or the artificial gravity, or traveling between star systems in crazy short timelines. It’s a damn monster movie, a monster movie where the monsters have different and inconsistent rules in every single movie.
@@DeltaHouseStudios I couldn't agree more. I understand that everyone has a right to their opinion but too many people over analyze these days and don't just go to enjoy without pointing out the physics and the science... but don't critique other things that don't even exist. I love the channel and not hating on him: but just enjoy the movie. It's the best one we've had in quite some time.
I usually agree with this channel on things but not this time, I personally really enjoyed it, and also the final new creature. I also feel some of the characters actions for the most part made sense, people arent always the most clear thinking in stressful and dangerous situations.
Especially not if they're basically still just kids who initially just wanted to give a shot at living a better life.
I think all of their decisions (rushed or not) made so much more sense in the context that these are all young people who never did much else other than work in mines on a sunless planet - this is the strangest, most extreme and especially least expected situation they ever ended up in.
@@scrathed None of them is kid.
@@sychuan3729 obv not, but they are young and inexperienced especially compared to the other movies casts
@@SlushySlushArt I didn't notice them being especialy stupid. Frankly speaking don't know why everyone speaks about this. Covenant and Promethreus crew were absolutely moronic.
@@sychuan3729 thats cuz this movie is written much better (imo) but I was just bringing it up because you said they weren't kids. They didnt mean it literally, they are just younger
The most perfect imperfect movie
Genuinely curious whatcha mean by that? I thought it was actually a good alien film since aliens (maybe AvP but idk been a while since I saw that)
@benvoli0c977 I think it's a meme . If so r/whoosh
@@j.a.g.8689 lmao well it's the first time I've been r/woodshed usually I'm a bit better lol
@@benvoli0c977 It wasn’t an insult much more of a nod towards the video and the movie I personally rank it top 2 behind the first alien.. but definitely could’ve used a bit more horror (I watched it 3 times ) amazing movie, and a much well deserved video
@@benvoli0c977 if it is. I believe it's just a play on how the Alien is always called a perfect organism
Your comment about having Andy say "get away from my sister" is actually SO good because you could have had him say it in the same way as the original line, calling back to the spirit of that line, and having that level of emotion being a showing of Andy's latent humanity and how he differs from the other synthetics we've seen in the series. It always blows my mind how so many awful parts of movies can be fixed with just MINOR changes to the writing and/or directing.
I think all of your complaints have in movie explanations… this is a movie that does a good job at bringing the entirety of the fan base together for the fans that want it. For better or worse, no new director can act as the arbiter of entry to what the movies have canonized.
I really don’t think any of the characters did anything stupid.
The black goo exists and the lore behind it has been fleshed out a lot, Fede can’t really ignore that.
Like it or not, the franchise is now about the origins of creation thanks to Prometheus.
Androids making call back lines to the same models makes perfect sense to me 🤷♂️
“Get away from her you b@/&” was earned because of Andy visually questioning the usage of the word earlier in the film. My theater clapped and cheered at that line.
That girl injecting herself wasn’t stupid because it was a last ditch effort. She heard Andy say that the odds of her surviving was about 30% if I remember. Maybe he just says “not good”, and that was WITH their help before Rain went to go save Andy. So it was likely either bleed out and die or take a chance on this serum.
Even the company expanding to wanting to evolve the human race to be the rightful throne holders of the “perfect organism” is wayyyyyy more compelling to me than “I want bio weapon because that’s what I’m supposed to want”
Loved this movie. I’ve been a fan for 28 years since watching Aliens at 6 years old lololol
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The guy trying to zap the Xeno inside the cocoon made sense since the
Thing was still inside their escape ship.
As for the woman injecting herself with the “refined” black goo did it because she worried about the baby’s survival.
I feel like had they taken 2 seconds to have the sister take a few steps, collapse due to blood loss. It would justify her injecting herself with a foreign substance. Silly oversight but not the biggest deal.
Andy said it would help and as far as Kat knows, he can't harm or put humans in danger. So I understand why she would trust it. I do wish it was left ambiguous so the ending would have been more of a shock. Especially since we know what the black goo does. Cut the scene short and let us wonder if she went through with it or not. It would have been a great way to build suspense.
@@emalinepeeler9946 I get the logic of US the viewers thinking negative to her choice. But we have to put ourselves in her shoes: she lost her father, her brother, cousin and friend... she had nothing to go back to on Jackson. All she had left was her unborn child and Rain. She stayed behind for Rain, and was willing to try to save her child since she was told it would increase her chances. After everything she went through, I can understand her desperation. It's US knowing the world of Alien... that it was a bad choice.
@@emalinepeeler9946 they did apparently cut a lot of scenes in this movie for the theatrical cut which they did say they’re most likely gonna do a directors cut and I think a riddly cut for the dvd releases if fans want them
"Ironic, isn't it?"
Romulus has earned its place among the top 3 of all eight Alien movies and the best alien move in decades. Its sets itself apart from Alien and Aliens by expanding on and pushing further the disturbing sexual aesthetic of H.R. Giger’s work. I don’t remember ever feeling more unsettled since the dinner scene in Alien.
no. this was just a mashup of all previous films and not very original.
@@1984-i1w originality didn't work last time whats your point
I kinda feel like sticking with only facehuggers and xenomorphs is too one dimensional, to the risk of becoming unoriginal & boring in a sense. Personally, i like the idea of the xenomorphs evolving or changing to their environment/host (it happens in nature).This shows why they're so intelligent and are "perfect organism" instead of just saying it haphazardly. I found the final act humanoid xenomorph extremely unsettling. It was a definite case of uncanny valley.
@@loganrasmussen9662 it would be interesting to see the Xenos evolving. We saw some small aspect of that in Prometheus and Covenant. The problem is the purest will never accept it. They'll complain that it's better to leave everything a mystery and it's best not to expand on the perfect organism. Just leave everything a mystery they will say because it adds to the horror. Despite that, I agree with you. I like prequels and the black goo. All the xeno variants. If only people didn't complain about Prometheus to the point where Scott had to change the next movie so his fans wouldn't be upset. The fans are the reason why covenant sucked. Scott folded under pressure to please a toxic fan base. This however does not mean that Prometheus was perfect. The characters were really dumb. But so is literally every character in any horror movie/slasher. Cry about it.
@@mast3rcor397 Covenant sucked becouse script was awful. It wasn't written by fans. Prometheus main problem was idotic "scientists" and nonsenscial logic of black goo but generaly it was almost OK. I was expecting 2nd movie about planets of Engeniers, but Scott decided to make his Covenant crap
@@sychuan3729 technically David did go to a engineer planet. He kinda just released a bio weapon offing them all. I figured they were just some sort of Amish Engineers with no technology or some sort of religious set of Engineers. Covenant to me was interesting because you got to see all the experimental xenos
@@mast3rcor397 I thaught that engineers civilization have fallen during the last millenias. The problem movie didn't say anything interesting about them or there civilization or about aliens. Black goo creates monsters is stupid concept from b-movies and cartoons like TMNT. Well in TMNT mutagen was made much better
I’d give it an 8/10. Most gripes with the movie have in movie/in universe explanations. Best movie in the franchise since 1986.
Same. Agree
I think my biggest complaint is wondering where all the xenomorphs came from by the end of the film. Were they just hidding out on the ship until the security lockdown was lifted? I mean If you consider that from the directors cut of Alien, it's implied that people cocooned on the wall will eventually be turned into an egg and the rest soon follows. But I think them already being there is more likely.
@@mast3rcor397 There were like 36 Facehuggers bred by Weyland Yutani on board the station. Also there were all the people the original Xenomorph harvested at the nest.
So I'd guess they came from the staff and were just confined due to the lockdown.
I'd rate it a bit lower for the unrelenting squeezing of memberberries. But I'd agree it's still the 3rd best movie in the franchise.
Whats 8/10? someone flying in 0 gravity thru ACID and then like 20 aliens just being held by a elevator door that has a gap big enough to let facehuggers in but they stop chasing? im scared to ask what kind of score do you use for the movies
So let me understand this… Y’all wanted a movie that was better than the 1st two Alien movies? When has a 6-8th sequel been better than the original?! Y’all have loss y’all minds. Maybe I’m different but I don’t go to a sequel thinking it’s gonna be better than the original. Please guys stop fill your heads with bs from people on the internet. It’s a movie. Meant to entertain you for 2 hours then you go on with life.
Personally I watch it and then go back to whatever I was doing with my family. Y’all look real sensitive about a movie. Man up.
I totally agree with you despite being a huge Alien franchise fan. Some people really do need to get a grip and perhaps a life.
I heard that some theather crowds actually cheered after "the get away from her you bitch" line. I guess it depends on the crowd.
Yeah my theater (which was full) cheered that line.
Yeah mine actually laughed.
Mine was half and half which makes sense it was kinda forced
they did however love the artificial person line as did i
Saw the movie twice both times the people in the theatre laughed including myself.
Mine got a laugh and well as one verbal "give me a break".
Review is good but theres a few things ive got an issue with.
1 its not uncommon for militaries to introduce "more advanced weapons" then replaces them with less advanced weapons for budget and practical reasons. The aim assited pulse rifle could have had flaws that made the USCM replace it with the M41A and M56 smart gun while keeping the smart aiming system on a more capable platform being the smart gun. Makes perfect sense also seems like the smart aim cant difernciate between targets. So it wouldn't make sense to be relliant on an aiming system that cant tell what your shooting at. Sounds like it could cause alot of collateral damage
The xenomorphs still feel dangerous after the hive hallway scene and your comarison to what happened in aliens is a terrible one. In aliens the marines were surrounded in a maze of hallways surrounded entirely by xenomorphs that could pick them off from every direction. In the one, rain was in a hallway with her back to the wall, no was for the xenomorphs to effectively flank. Mix that with the lack of zero gravity and the xenomorphs combat advantage is non-existent.
The elvevator shaft scene where the xenomorph dosnt kill rain was because it had the intention to have her impregnated the hive just lost a massive group of drones and it wouldnt hurt for them to add another.
Andy was being repaired by rooks implant. It literally comes out and tells us that after he explains whag happend to navaro.
Kay had no idea that Z01 was a harmful compound, none of the characters do only the audience. She had andy who she probably still trusted because she was unaware of events and her brother whom she had just seen die. The decision is only dumb in hindsight.
So you replace your standard assult rifle that has 400 rounds capability and the equivalent of CS GO aimbot for heeadshots for an assult rifle that has 99 rounds and no aimbot...sure mate.
I agree so hard, this video is just 37 minutes of whining and nitpicking, basically a cinema sins but for a genuinely good movie
The aliens were coming straight at her from the front. In narrow passage way.
I can't agree with any of this.
@Codigoduro1 probably a smaller cartridge in this version. And the "aimbot" can't tell between a civilian and a threat judging by rain just being able to lock on to Andy. Decrease the mag size and remove the aim assist. Give a squad support weapon a more ironed out and improved version and a higher caliber and you have the M56 smart gun. Give the pulse rifle the higher caliber lower the mag size to make it more manuverable and give it a grenade launcher to make up for the aim assist. And even if it is the same caliber. You would have to deal with the extra wieght that the asist and massive magzine that would strain soldiers more in a longer fight. So why not make the smart gun and lower magizne sizes to make the units more mobile while still having the advantage of the aim asist and having the pulse rifles that wernt reliant on it. makes perfect sense if you if think about it "mate"
Imo the biggest issue is the fan base has no actual idea what it wants. Weve seem this with the star wars sequels and now this. When they play it safe, they hit the same beats, derivatibe unoriginal. When they do something different like TLJ or prometheus, they stray too far. Both rise of skywalker and covenant were made to basically correct fan outrage at the movies that preceded them and fans just switched the criticism..
This was fine, just needed to do a couple things different for me at least.
@@garylasorella7997 same, I thought the movie was beautifully shot. The thing that bothered me with this was the humor they added. I shouldn't be laughing in an alien movie unless it's to make you feel safe before making you very unsafe. I felt no real dread in this movie..
"which then, bizarrely begins to push her towards the ladder on the opposite side, instead of killing her" i guess you are just going to skim over that there was a face hugger a meter from her face ready to jump. That hive just lost the majority of the drones and need to replenish.
Bro brought up newtons third law in a movie to bring up a lame point, im not surprised they didnt watch intently enough to notice
Romulus is proof that you can make a great sequel with great writing, effects, and respecting the series continuity with much love and attention to detail yet purests fans will still hate it. Alien fans complain that its not like Alien or Aliens. Might as well just not watch any new Alien film if you're gonna hate it anyway.
No one expected it to be those films, just better than what it was.
@@NotMorganFreeman.how much better. You can’t do the most. Do enough and create more later. Can’t please fans that whine and complain about everything. All I care is if it’s good or not. That’s it. I don’t need deep dives into a movie. I have a life. Entertain me for 1-2 hours and I go on with the next.
While it's fair to say that you can't expect another, "one of the greatest movies of all time" you have to see that it's absurd to criticize a movie, basing your criticisms on Alien or Aliens. That's not giving the film a fair chance. And because it belongs in a franchise with those classics, everyone will say that they won't compare it to Alien and Aliens, but they'll still resent any new entry regardless because it is not in fact Alien or Aliens, "some of the greatest movies of all time". "Hollywood is ruining a classic franchise". That's even if the movie is good. It's all rose tinted glasses.
That’s how Covenant got ruined. The fans bitched and moaned that Prometheus didn’t have Xenos in it so Ridley folded under FAN PRESSURE and expectation. I still LOVE Covenant thouugh
But it is none of those, LMAO. Not even on a film making level let alone an ALIENS movie.
I saw it in IMAX last Friday. It's a great film. It's not as good as the first two but better than I expected.
romulus really felt like the highest budget fan film of all time
True. It was awful.
@@alansmith4655 to call it awful when movies like the borderlands movie exist is crazy, i had a great time regardless
In a good way. Loved this movie
@@alansmith4655me when I lie
It broke new ground.
I feel a lot of these reviews are working quite hard to find flaw with this movie, i thought it was great. Alien and aliens wouldnt survive this level of scrutiny.
Hilarious propaganda bot comment LoL.
@@infinitesimotel says the throwaway account
@@kryatin LoL, not quite. Then again I do believe there are people with such nonexistent discernment to think as such.
Its because outrage content became a thing on its own sadly. There are alot of content creators pivoting to hating stuff more than actually being objective on their criticism because hate generates views. Not saying its the case here, but several of his criticisms are easily explained as others have pointed out in other comments
@@infinitesimotelyou type lol as LoL and posted a racist comment, get off the laptop gramps its time for youre nap
Alien Romulus: Hey boys and girls, if you have arachnaphobia, well I gotta movie for you!
Me: ... Wut?
*1h59m later*
Me: *confused screaming out the theater*
I read that thumbnail caption as an "imperfect orgasm" and I was about to question everything I knew 😂
Stellar breakdown 🙌🏽
Hehe Vex, of course you did. Lol cheers
😂😂
Romulus was so good, I highly rate it. One of the best films of 2024 so far and probably the best out of the new alien films and prequels.
ending was borring
"The only thing that'll hear your screams in space are the xenomorphs that cause them."
- Santa Clause
I'm starting to think this dude hates Fede Alvarez.
This was what Hollywood needs to focus on telling good stories.
Sorry I disagree with many of your criticisms and it seems a little nitpicky. I honestly think this movie is good. Not alien or aliens good but it was a great watch. Btw the aliens in the books and comics are not much as a threat in single numbers as they are in the movies. The movies just exaggerate the aliens. In the comics marines with their weapons can mow them down. Also I think the biggest problem with her killing all the xenos is that they went at her straight on.
Your complaints about physics and the laws are honestly a little overboard after all it is a movie! We do not watch movies for ultra realism.
People in my theater went crazy with some of the call backs.
Very nitpicky
His complaints about the physics are also incorrect.
@@nicholasgordon4999glad I wasn't the only one who caught that 😂
The newborn was the best addition to this movie
People complaining about rehashes and call backs, when they try something new, people just whine and say its not a xenomorph 🤷 the offspring was terrifying
Romulus was the best Alien movie since 1986's Aliens. There are reasonable gripes to be made however the movie hit most of the right notes and themes.
I went in with negative expectations and came out impressed wanting to rewatch it.
Fede did an excellent job rebooting the series and I hope he gets more opportunities to expand upon the universe of Aliens.
I'm a big fan of practical effects but I do admit CGI does have its place.
I agree. CGI should augment a film and support the practical effects, but not become the backbone of a movie
Not with a dead actor playing an android. Dude looked like a Snapchat filter.
@@deeacosta2734lol
@@deeacosta2734 I loved the practical with everything. Nothing wrong with going old school, I do admit in some instances it was needed to enhance it a bit, for sure. But the CGI with Rook was god awful, that really took me out of it. I get wanting to honor Ian Holm... but just hire someone else and have him the alternative option for how the droid looked haha.
So you're mad cgi was used to recreate an android? Lol @Neoghost00
You guys have got to start giving Prometheus and covenant some credit. Nobody knew where the xenomorphs came from, and I’m so glad they tried to explain it in a creative way. Not being just some typical creepy alien from a. Distant planet.
I loved this film. It doesn't have to be perfect. We hold the original two films as a base plate and sorry to say: no one is ever going to outshine those and if they do, bravo. It's a great film that does more for it than previous installments. Kudos to Fede and the cast as well as crew who did a fantastic job.
I personally kind of loved it I wasn't at first but I really got into it and the "thing" at the end was straight up nightmare fuel I'm glad they went back to practical effects
The comment about military tech, its often more cost effective for the military to not buy the latest and greatest for all equipment for a cost effective standpoint. Alternatively a company can "spare no expense" to buy the best equipment where the military will buy the "keep it simple" equipment.
Good review overall. I still loved the movie but yea there are technical issues.
8:20
“Ripley shot it out of the goddamn airlock after they traveled some distance away.”😂😂😂
I loved this movie. I’ve seen it three times.
I liked covenant & Prometheus & the first 2 alien movies..this one gets my like as well
I assumed the company knew the space station was there all along.
They just didn't know the kids were on board
It seemed like WeyYu knew the station was there and was going to let it impact the asteroids after the catastrophic loss of all personnel.
@smokenova I reckon they didn't know what was still on board. Maybe a loss of comms. Rook needed the kids to get the goop off the station and needed them to manually give him control of the ship.
The ending could have been better but I liked it.
I agree with all your criticisms but the only one that really shook me out of the immersion of the story was ash’s terrible cgi face.
Everything else worked or was fine. The “bitch” line I can sort of accept since the idiot British kid was calling the android a bitch earlier and even said “get away from me” so it’s kinda set up.
Your point about the facility is well taken but I think it could be explained that WY hasn’t had time to react to what happened on the station yet. A throw away line where they say Weyland is on their way with a team would have solved it.
Exactly. I don’t think Nyat was paying attention to some scenes. I don’t get the hate for this movie. The shit ain’t AVP lol 😂
it was so original and unpredictable
@@1984-i1w honestly the 3rd act was so bonkers I love them for even attempting to get that crazy with it by tying in the black goo and the engineers
The movie doesn't rely on references; it stands on its own and ties the other films in the franchise together for a narrative that complements what came before while adding something new to the series. Great movie
In the original Alien. The villain is the company. And by the end of the movie you, hate the company. Did this movie make you hate the company?
@@TheGreatPewpyOnethat'll be 12,000 more hours down in the mines for you
It’s not perfect but I think it’s a step in the right direction. I can’t wait to see what they do with the franchise next
Andy should have delivered a quip from one of his dad jokes instead of quoting Aliens 86'
Something about elevators... they just bring me down.
What did one raindrop say to the other?
“Two’s company; three’s a cloud.”
romulus is like a love note to the OGs i enjoyed it , heard the whole audience gasped during the birth scene. cool experience
The Alien drifts through the void, black on black - an intangible nightmare. If its current predicament induces any distress, its tranquil coiling into the foetal position betrays none of it.
Creatures spin their secrets - does anyone really see the creation of the spider's web or does it first appear only in the dew-rich mornings?
Some debris from the Nostromo slides slowly closer to the Alien, their relative speeds a mere few miles per hour. The huge silver shards of the wreckage capture the local star's light and reflect it upon the Alien architect's creation: it lies in the centre of a vast multi-layered fullerene sphere, growing irrevocably larger, secreted from the messianic being at its core. The momentum of the Nostromo's shards is silently broken as they tumble through the brittle resin. And, like a spider to a fly, the Alien glides over the elongated struts of its elegant masterpiece to cling to one such shard.
How could the Alien know that its best chance of propagating would be to stay close to the wreckage of its hosts: its best chance of coming into contact with more of the same? How could a creature possess such an instinct? Is it indeed instinct - or is it that the perfect organism's intellect is simply no match for Niyat's?
Imagine if the pregnant Kay, not Rain, had unexpectedly turned out to be our "final girl," the way Ripley did in the original. Imagine if it was her standing over the last dead alien stowaway, and her wearing the Miraculous Medal around her neck earlier in the film had turned out to be a thematic hint of the triumph to come.
"And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth"; "Our Lady has already crushed his head".
That would have been a movie for all time. It's the kind of edifying victory that "A Quiet Place" did so well.
Wow i was just going on a binge and watching your old prometheus videos nice upload man
The auto-aim (named IFF, identify friend foe) was part of the script in Aliens (1986) but literally part of it was that it didn’t work at all on the xenomorphs cause they didn’t show up on infrared (this has dialogue in the movie), this is why the smart gunners panic and just light up the reactor coolant area shooting wildly when the xenomorphs ambush them and close in. They were the most experienced par for Apone but they were over reliant on their high tech
I wanted more alien. I loved 2/3 of the movie. I appreciate the Prometheus connection but I would’ve preferred a xenomorph for the final fight.
I personally really enjoyed Prometheus and Alien: Covenant. In fact these are the movies that got me into the franchise
I was personally okay with Rook's uncanny valley look because the way I saw it is he's a highly damaged synthet- erm... "artificial person" and so the illusion of his human features looked... Off...
I agree with some of the criticisms of the movie but ultimately I totally enjoyed watching the movie. I feel that despite the issues brought up it was a net positive.
C'mon man... Zero G acid blood.... That was fantastic and narratively made sense to do (being at the bottom of the ship and desperate to survive)
The acid blood thing made perfect sense. This narrator is clueless. First of all, he should watch a few police videos: almost no blood at all sprays from someone who is shot. However, because we see Drake getting sprayed by blood, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say when Aliens die their blood does spray. Even in this were the case, as soon as a drop of acid hit a wall, all momentum would be dissipated and there would be no force to contact the acid with fresh surface. Polar liquids also hold together under their own stickiness - so the bulk of the acid would form floating pools as we saw. I don't mind stupid people - but arrogant stupid people piss me off.
@Vee2-d9f oh you're a scientist... Ya know... I'm somewhat of a scientist myself
@@roscojenkins7451 Strong acids are inherently sticky because they tend to be hydrogen cations dissolved in water. Water is a polar molecule and is very sticky hence its huge heat capacity and liquid nature at room temperature - despite being a small molecule. I think Vee2-d9f is deliberately trying to trigger me because he fits my above criteria.
Thank goodness for this video. It's such a good balance of compliment and critique. While some can be explained, I still appreciate this video overall.
@6:52 "ITS ABOUT TIME I INTRODUCE MYSELF!"
Nothing beats the first Alien.
Fede Alvarez went to Sir Ian Holm's surviving family and asked for their permission and blessing to use Holm's likeness. He described in an interview how that was important to do, having lost his father recently. Let's not be outraged on behalf of the only people this truly affects when they are fully supportive.
Rather than having these random teens/young people just head into space and enter a Mega-corporation’s multi trillion dollar installation without ANY interference from the military/air control etc, this is what should have happened:
1. ALL of the main cast have their mining quota reset/double on the same day. They all have an extra 5 years of mining to do. They are all very angry and confused.
2. When they are all gathered together in that trailer on the mining colony, there is a knock on the door.
3. In walks two Weyland Yutani executives. One human, the other a very advanced android.
4. The cast are told they can get their 5 year mining quota completely wiped clean if they agree to embark on a quick mission to the Romulus to retrieve…something (black goo). They are told by the suits that it will only take 3 hours max.
5. The cast ask why can’t Weyland-Yutani do it? They are told the nearest operatives are 2 years away. The mission is very important and can’t wait that long. The suits don’t tell the cast that the Romulus is 36 hours away from crashing into the planet’s rings.
5. The cast jump at the opportunity. Rain says she’ll do it on one condition, that Andy can join them, and be allowed to go with them to Yvaga.
6. After a brief shared silence, the suits “agree”, and even tell Andy he should be able to communicate with MOTHER and provide access to the crew to certain areas.
The suits take them up to the Romulus and drop them off, telling them they will return in 3 hours.
Then the movie carries on as normal.
Like it?
I will never let a face hugger hug my face. Seriously, like the bruce lee would've came out of me..WHATTHAAA!
I had to decided between Romulus and The Crow. Im glad I choose Romulus
I enjoyed it but I've definitely got my problems with it too
I honestly liked this far more than any of the other Alien releases. Telling them they HAVE to incorporate nods to all the previous works wasn't smart. clear example of hampering creative freedom for someone talented. I wish there had been more of that kind of oversight with other directors who had TOO MUCH freedom....like Rian Johnson and Star Wars.
I liked romulus. I'm not sure why everyone is so overtly critical about it.
It good worse the longer it went on, wasn't scary, the characters were not interesting, it had multiple plot holes amd the hybrid looked shit. This movie is one of those ones some people rave about but will totally vanish after a year.
@@jzanami3908because it was very VERY predictable. and the fact it was essentially 3 alien movies in 1. while there is horror sure you lose momentum when you see these waster colonists smack away a facehugger with no effort when you see ripley struggling with just 1 the second it grabs her in aliens and needing like 4 marines to pull it off and STILL they couldnt hold it long.
@jzanami3908 I haven't seen it yet. But I will say trailers and clips I have seen show it as an ok movie. Still fun to watch but could be better. But it not amazing like the first or second movie.
I enjoyed it saw it twice.
@@jzanami3908if you enjoy a hamburguer is fine, but dont call It high cuisine...if you enjoy this movie, is fine, but dont call it a good movie or a good alien movie, because is neither.
This really felt like the perfect amalgamation of every alien movie to date. It perfectly combines some of the best elements, and even some elements that didn't work that well in previous movies. If i had to nitpick, I would say that the timeline of the movie felt too short. Otherwise, I absolutely loved the film so much!
Seen it twice - I LOVED this movie!!
I loved the set designs all the way down to the simple push buttons, toggle switches and CRT monitors...so good
Easily the best Alien instalment on screen since Aliens but I have to admit that, going in to this blind, I was hoping we would see more than just a minute of exposition in regards to what happened to the crew instead of retreading the old formula and feeling like the ending dragged on for a bit longer that it should have much like this sentence.
To me, this felt more in line with an Alien Resurrection experience if Alien Resurrection was, you know, good rather than as a film which sits between Alien and Aliens.
I can appreciate how authentic it felt where it really captured the antiquated future look of technology, references and how lived-in the world felt with practical sets and effects but was also let down by how frustrated and detached I was with the characters (especially how stupid Tyler was) other than Andy who gave an amazing uncanny valley performance.
Speaking of uncanny valley, seeing a digital representation of Ian Holm didn't bother me or make me think they're exploiting nostalgia as they're likely canonically assembled as such for a specific field (think The Doctor in ST:V) but I feel like they could have gotten away with it more gracefully had he just been an on-screen presence the whole time like in the last act of the movie.
Still much better than Prometheus and Covenant but because of those issues and not using their time more efficiently to build up characters, tension and passing rather than investing so much in to and ending that overstayed its welcome, I'd have to give it a 6.5/10.
Still fine but Prey is a much stronger film which is made in much of the same vein.
I know they scene with the acid is not scientifically plausible, but damn it was a awesome scene.
Your neutral tone made it confusing when you said "shot it out the god damn" like idk if you were legit pissed 😂 made me laugh idk why
I think he was quoting Ripley's line from the company board meeting at the beginning of Aliens
"Good, that's 'cause I blew it out the goddamn airlock!"
The story roughly takes place within a span of hours: there doesn't need to be character development and there shouldn't be character development. You learn what kinda of archetype each character is and how it translates in the horror setting.
While I did really enjoy this movie we still need characters that are more memorable than these. Andy is great, Rain is fine too but the other characters were just fodder here. This is my only complaint. Otherwise I really enjoyed it.
The sequel to Aliens versus Predator does establish that Xenomorphs will eat human flesh.
Is AvP even cannon?
That’s not canon
It's lore
@@MikeTall88it’s canon to the lore of predators but predators aren’t canon to the lore of aliens if that makes sense.
The actors who performed the androids were my favorite actors. Great vocal performances and stole the show imo.
I absolutely loved it
I thoroughly enjoyed this movie and found a really respectful take on the series.
I really enjoyed this movie
Ridley Scott needs to get blacklisted.
I feel like your explained videos have gotten more and more negative - I mean come on, it’s a fun horror movie. We’re really going to quote Newton’s first law? lol…
As someone who understands the Alien franchise, it makes absolute sense why they are continuing with the whole experiment and evolving the Xenomorph hybrids/ancestors/descendants/ect.
Covenant was a flop because Fox denied Scott’s original three drafts/scripts for it and instead made him make it about the modern Xenomorph, because that was what they believed was the money maker, news flash, it was a box office hit but compare to Prometheus and previous alien movies, it was a complete fail and a huge portion of audiences preferred the original scripts.
We don’t only want to see JUST the basic Xenomorph and facehuggers, this franchise is about more than just those creatures, there are hundreds of Xenomorph variations and expanding.
We’re GOING to see new versions as well because these are organisms that adapt to DNA and use that to be the most unstoppable specimens they are capable of being.
I love that it wasn’t JUST the basic Xenomorph in Romulus and while it will never beat the og first two alien movies, nor Prometheus in my opinion, I loved it more than Covenant which felt very all over the place and lackluster. Romulus actually did well with the progression we never got from Prometheus.
The human characters & dialogue are used a million times better in Romulus than Covenant. That’s all I really ask for is decent characters who act like real humans & a director who can deliver a film that doesn’t feel all hacked together in editing .
A pretty actress and a sequel homage movie from films I began to like?
Yeah, I like it and guessing will eventually grow to love it.😊
everyone is nitpicking this movie. like it’s okay to make VALID criticisms on things you didn’t like but the nitpicking is insufferable. i’ve seen this movie twice going on my third watch soon. i understand not everyone is going to like this movie, i just wished people could look past the so called flaws and see what the director’s intentions were, which was to bridge all the movies together as well as he could while also having his own vision for what this series can do and where it could go. i agree with some of the points made, like the fan service such as Rook and Andy saying Ripley’s line. they didn’t have to put them in the movie but does it subtract from the overall plot? no, not necessarily because there’s reasoning as to why things like that happened and existed. some good examples of fan service i loved was the emergency phone save points from Isolation, that had me excited every time i seen one lol. while the cast being young doesn’t exactly excuse some of their actions, these are still kids trying to survive against an evil corporation and a literal force of nature. we might say we’d act a certain way in these situations, but you cannot say the same for other people like friends or family. i overall loved this movie, it was an amazing watch and addition to the series and lore. easily the best one since aliens. i honestly liked it more than aliens and would put it as my second favorite, essentially putting them in chronological order lol
the last 10 minutes of the ending was just so cliche, so Alien 4.
pregnant Ripley that births a child that she then kills.
why not come up with an original ending?
@@stockholmpublishings2937 but that parallel didn’t even happen in the movie lol. Romulus’ “Ripley” would have been Rain and she wasn’t pregnant nor gave birth. the ending was to bridge all the movies together and make a somewhat cohesive lore behind the pathogen. either it worked for you or it didn’t, for me it stuck the landing.
Cant understand why so many people are over analysing and criticizing this movie. I thought it was great, and when Andy says his “get away from her you bitch” line, everyone in the cinema laughed! I mean with the recent drivel given to us by hollywood this was a very good movie.
It's called desperation. Some people choose to heavily invest themselves in something that is, at the end of the day, completely trivial. I'll confess to being a big fan of the Alien franchise, but no way will it somehow garner feelings of some sort of personal insult that this or that wasn't done exactly right. At the end of the day, it is just a movie. A piece of entertainment based on fantasy and imagination.
I personally feel this review was far too negative. The film was great.
I've noticed that a lot with this channel lately. Like he's become super cynical and nitpicky. Always negative and angry at the films.
Also. A lot of the complaints about the physics are wildly wrong.
But its not my channel
When bad or mid movies come out we need someone to honestly review them and not kiss the ass of A company/ Studios for access.
This movie is rightfully so being compared to the originals.
@@dsadik666zip it loser
One argument I would make in Bjorn’s favor was that him trying to kill the Xenomorph while it was in its cocoon wasn’t a stupid move. He has no idea what it actually is or what it can do. He saw it in a vulnerable position and must have thought “since it’s in a cocoon and is in the middle of changing, it should be weak enough to kill” especially since he connected the cattle prod to a power source on the ship itself, and it’s safe to say that the shock prod is incredibly powerful seeing that it knocked Andy off of his feet and multiple feet through the air. Along with that, he’s also raging that this thing killed his partner and is probably overcome with grief and anger. He’s already show to let his anger get the better of him and thus results in him going on the offensive. As for him not moving out of the way, he got struck in the face with a very powerful, very fast moving stinger which as got to discombobulate him and mess with his own thinking, making it difficult for him to process what was going on, although I do believe if they wanted to make it more reasonable why he wouldn’t move they should have dumped more acid on him to make him unable to move due to the pain.
And I believe the argument for the ship somehow flying into the docking bay, criticizing how a colony on the edge of collapse didn’t send ships to collect the derelict space outpost and hinting at them being ridiculous is more nitpicky than anything. Overall, the movie has to movie and there have been various other things throughout the Alien franchise that just happened even though it is completely unlikely. I say simply suspend your disbelief on instances like that because they’re few and far between and are used to make the movie more enjoyable
So technically, by Fedes logic the Queen from Aliens is still alive ?
Yes
I think the movie was really carried by its actors, so much so that even a stickler like myself still enjoyed the movie despite all of its problems. I think the whole cast have bright futures ahead of them.