I was born and raised JW (Fourth generation so we were really IN). Jesus saved me about 6 years ago. Your videos were pivotal in my waking process. Thank you Mike Winger for everything! Seriously you helped save my life and soul and I'm eternally grateful
@@eloisemartinez5301 Congratulations! Seriously. I pray my family would wake up every day. They are so blinded though. They rarely speak to me. It makes me so happy when I hear that others have gotten out. God has done an amazing healing in me but it was quite the process. God bless you!
@@Sarahopal most of the time it's people who get out become atheist and hate God so to see others who still believe in God and understand it's not God fault for that cult it's truly a blessing. Everyone I've ever known now shuns me. I have true freedom in Christ now though. It's so nice to meet you sis.. my testimony is on my channel as well
@@eloisemartinez5301 I will check that out! I love hearing ex JWs stories. I tried the atheist thing but I just couldn't deny God. I searched desperately for "The Truth" for a while. I heard the song "Simple Gospel" and God took me on the most mind blowing path to Him. When we have been taught so thoroughly that everyone is lying, then find out our source of faith was a lie, it makes sense so many turn to atheism. Plus we were All horribly abused. My dad's an elder in California (well on his way to traveling overseer). Last time I saw him I prayed God would give me words for him. I told him I'd found Jesus and He had totally changed my life, he said "well, just don't forget the Father" I said "how could I? I'd have nothing without Him. You know Jesus is the only way to Him though right?" I pray a seed was planted. (Sorry that's a long response and seems rambling. I am playing with grandkids and typing occasionally)
@@Sarahopal thank you so much for sharing your story. How absolutely beautiful that you were saved from this. Your testimony is so precious and I am so inspired by hearing your story about the seed you planted in your dad. 💜
My mom became a JW when I was 7. (7 years of birthdays and Christmas gone in one fell swoop and my sister didn’t celebrate her birthday until she was almost 30) My dad fought her about trying to indoctrinate me and my sister for years but finally gave into her and I was made to attend the Kingdom Hall. It was literal hell. I had nightmares for years about Armageddon. It caused so much damage to my family that I haven’t spoken to my mother in 12 years. I’m going to try to reach out to her. I want her to have the peace that comes with knowing Jesus. The true Jesus.
You are so abused, no Christmas, no celebrating pagan lies like Easter and Halloween, if you think meetings were bad, just wait until the Tribulation starts!
God bless you 😊 Its my prayer every day that my parents would know the love of Jesus. It breaks my heart that so many are blinded by that cult. (It seems like there are a whole lot of them here in the comment section, just a heads up. They've been commenting on my post and it's crazy). I pray you are successful in getting through to your mom and God lifts the veil from her eyes 🙏
@Ben Hurn Here's how you can tell how FALSE JWs are. The 144,000 JWs believe will rule over everyone with Jesus in heaven were/are spirit anointed by God (according to them). The numbers for these 144,000 were filled up 1919 until finishing in 1935 according to JW literature (see below). However these "spirit anointed ones" would most likely be disfellowshipped as apostates now in their own religion. They most likely at some point smoked, celebrated Christmas, birthdays, Easter, believed in the Cross, went to war, believed Charles "Taze" Russell was the "faithful slave", thought that Russell directed the religion even after his death, believed the Great Pyramid in Giza was a testimony to the Bible and its chronology, worshiped Jesus until 1954, claimed the KJ version was the perfect Bible, took blood, ect,ect,ect Pagans, pagans, pagans!!! "Hence, especially after 1966 it was believed that *the heavenly call ceased in 1935."* Watchtower 2007 May 1 p.30 "Their being identified in 1935 as the great crowd of other sheep was an indication that the choosing of the 144,000 was then about complete." Revelation, Its Grand Climax Now at Hand p.125 "We understand that this heavenly calling continued down through the centuries, though during the so-called Dark Ages, there may have been times when the number of anointed ones were very few. With the reestablishment of true Christianity near the end of the last century, more were called and chosen. But it seems that *in the mid-1930's, the full number of the 144,000 was basically completed.* Thus there began to appear a group of loyal Christians with the earthly hope. Jesus termed such "other sheep," who unite in worship with the anointed as one approved flock." Watchtower 1996 Aug 15 p.31
@@Sarahopal People like you are so deceived you can't tell lies from truth! Winger is continuing the role played by the Pharisees of Jesus' day, making false claims to generate hatred against truth, spreading lies and doing Satan's work for him. Christendom is the real cult as will be proven at the Tribulation when every bit of it will be destroyed.
@Ben Hurn ROM14: 4 Who are you to criticize someone else’s servant? He stands or falls before his own Lord-and stand he will, because the Lord[g] makes him stand. 5 One person decides in favor of one day over another, while another person decides that all days are the same. Let each one be fully convinced in his own mind: 6 The one who observes a special day,[h] observes it to honor the Lord. The one who eats, eats to honor the Lord, since he gives thanks to God. And the one who does not eat, refrains from eating to honor the Lord; yet he, too, gives thanks to God.
The day before my mother passed away, her phone battery had gone flat, and it switched off. I charged it, but when I turned it back on, I realized I didn’t know the PIN. My mother, who had never once used the long PIN in the eight years she owned the phone, suddenly provided it without hesitation. It was a moment that reassured me she was fully lucid. Moments later, she began excitedly asking if we could see the “amazing curtains” she saw around her. Her eyes were bright with excitement. My mother had been a cloth designer all her life, and it struck me as odd because the hospital curtains were old, plain, and unimpressive. I told her, “Mother, what are you talking about? The curtains here are terrible.” But she insisted, “No, no, can’t you see them?” It dawned on me that what she was seeing wasn't earthly - she was walking through the temple of temples, heading towards the Holy of Holies. The next morning, over the phone, I heard her say, “Jesus, take me. I am ready.” This was especially strange because my mother had been a devoted Jehovah’s Witness for over 45 years. She firmly believed that, upon death, people enter a state of unconsciousness and remain that way until the resurrection after Armageddon. Yet, in those final moments, she wasn’t calling out to Jehovah. She was calling out to Jesus. It became clear to me that she had realized something profound - the teachings she had followed her entire life were not true. She was experiencing a resurrection right then and there, in that moment, and going with Jesus. A week earlier, she had been resuscitated, as if given time to disclose the truth she had discovered. During that week, a priest from another denomination visited her and asked if he could pray with her. Normally, she would have declined because, as a Jehovah’s Witness, she believed his prayers would not align with her faith. But to my surprise, she grabbed his arm and said, “Yes, brother, please pray.” Throughout that week, she also gave me specific instructions. She told me that if I ever met any of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, I must remind them of 1 Corinthians, which emphasizes love. What she was saying, in essence, was that no matter how much you preach or how devoutly you follow doctrine, without love, it means nothing. She was particularly insistent on this because, although she had long been critical of my way of life, I had shown her love until the very end. She also introduced my partner and a friend of mine to the doctors and nurses as her daughters. Although only I was her biological child, she explained that the others were also her daughters, referring to them as if they, too, had come from her womb. She did this not once, but twice, at two different hospitals. It became clear that she had reached a point of profound understanding - that love and connection mattered more than rigid doctrines or judgments. In her final days, she repeatedly told me that she had been a “bad mother.” She was grappling with the realization that much of what she had believed and taught was mistaken. Her change of heart was complete, and she took every opportunity to disclose how the teachings she had followed were, in her view, deeply flawed. But the story does not end there. After my mother passed away, I couldn’t summon the courage to collect her belongings from frail care, so my partner went in my place. When she returned home, I asked her for my mother’s Bible. She handed me a Bible, but it wasn’t the Jehovah’s Witness version I was expecting. Confused, I told her, “This isn’t my mom’s Bible.” My partner replied, “This is the one she asked me to pack for her when she went to frail care.” It was a non-denominational Bible. I was stunned that she had chosen to take that Bible with her, as it was completely unlike her. Still bewildered, I asked my partner to bring me her Jehovah’s Witness Bible instead. When I opened it, I found a note on the very first page. In her handwriting, she had written: “Jehovah, clean your church (organization),” along with a Bible verse. At that moment, it became clear - she had left that Bible behind intentionally. She had abandoned it at home, signaling that she no longer identified with it. Her choice to take a non-denominational Bible to frail care and the message she wrote in her old one were final acts of clarity, reflecting the transformation she had undergone in her last days. Her journey was not just one of passing from this life to the next but of discovery, humility, and profound love. It was a transformation that left me in awe, giving me peace and a deeper understanding of her final moments.
@@CBman11037 Another thing happened the day before my mom passed away, and it still gives me goosebumps every time I think about it. She turned to me and said that my friend Lorraine had taught her what true friendship was all about and that she wanted to give Lorraine a special gift to remember her by. She stressed that it really had to be something special. She said this with a thoughtful expression on her face. After my mom passed, I didn’t think much about it until Lorraine came to visit and told me that her son had just welcomed a baby girl. Now, Lorraine’s son, who lives in the UK, had never met my mother, nor had the baby’s mother. Yet, Lorraine told me that they had named the child Guadalupe. Guadalupe is not exactly a common name, and the fact that neither Lorraine’s son nor the baby’s mother knew my mom made it even more astonishing. When Lorraine’s son later came to South Africa to visit, I asked him how they had decided to give their daughter-Lorraine’s first grandchild-that name. He explained that the baby’s mother had had a dream, which we calculated to have happened around the time my mother passed-or possibly on the exact day my mother had told me she wanted to give Lorraine a special gift. In the dream, the baby’s mother was told to name her daughter Guadalupe. How powerful is that? For anyone who doubts such things, this experience was beyond extraordinary. Adding to the significance, my mother had introduced Lorraine to the hospital staff as one of her daughters, alongside me. And now, Lorraine’s first grandchild-a baby girl who, by the way, looks and even behaves a bit like my mom-was named after her other grandmother: my mother, Guadalupe. How incredible is that for a gift after death?
I work with a young man who is a JW. All of my coworkers say he is always so depressed. We had a chat about faith today during our break. Holy Spirit, work your way into his heart!
They are all burnt out and miserable because it's very hard to stay ready for imminent Armageddon for well over a century. Almost like it wasn't imminent at all. And just a big old lie. Like 21:8
@@Robbie-si1hw yeah I was in the jw thing for a long time since my mom joined it when I was five and almost all the people in it were depressed and I became depressed too I left
I am a Born Again Christian. Since the age of 16 I have had numerous contacts with JWs over the years. I love these contacts because they think they are trying to convert me but it is actually the other way round. I pray that seeds are sown to see the way of the Lord.
@@watchman8644 Any reply? 200 AD Tertullian "Never did any angel descend for the purpose of being crucified, of tasting death, and of rising again from the dead." (The Flesh of Christ, ch 6) 200 AD Tertullian "All the Scriptures give clear proof of the Trinity, and it is from these that our principle is deduced...the distinction of the Trinity is quite clearly displayed." (Against Praxeas, ch 11) 200 AD Tertullian "The origins of both his substances display him as man and as God: from the one, born, and from the other, not born" (The Flesh of Christ, 5:6-7). 200 AD Tertullian "[God speaks in the plural 'Let us make man in our image'] because already there was attached to Him his Son, a second person, his own Word, and a third, the Spirit in the Word....one substance in three coherent persons. He was at once the Father, the Son, and the Spirit." (Against Praxeas, ch 12) 200 AD Tertullian "Thus the connection of the Father in the Son, and of the Son in the Paraclete, produces three coherent Persons, who are yet distinct One from Another. These Three are, one essence, not one Person, as it is said, 'I and my Father are One' [John 10:30], in respect of unity of Being not singularity of number" (Against Praxeas, 25) 200 AD Tertullian "As if in this way also one were not All, in that All are of One, by unity (that is) of substance; while the mystery of the dispensation is still guarded, which distributes the Unity into a Trinity, placing in their order the three Persons - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost: three, however, not in condition, but in degree; not in substance, but in form; not in power, but in aspect; yet of one substance, and of one condition, and of one power, inasmuch as He is one God, from whom these degrees and forms and aspects are reckoned, under the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." (Against Praxeas, by Tertullian) 200 AD Tertullian "So too, that which has come forth out of God is at once God and the Son of God; and the two are one.... In his birth he is God and man united." (Apology, ch 21) 200 AD Tertullian "There is one only God, but under the following dispensation, or oikonomia, as it is called, that this one only God has also a Son, His Word, who proceeded from Himself, by whom all things were made, and without whom nothing was made. Him we believe to have been sent by the Father into the Virgin, and to have been born of her - being both Man and God, the Son of Man and the Son of God, and to have been called by the name of Jesus Christ; we believe Him to have suffered, died, and been buried, according to the Scriptures, and, after He had been raised again by the Father and taken back to heaven, to be sitting at the right hand of the Father, and that He will come to judge the quick and the dead; who sent also from heaven from the Father, according to His own promise, the Holy Ghost, the Paraclete, the sanctifier of the faith of those who believe in the Father, and in the Son, and in the Holy Ghost. That this rule of faith has come down to us from the beginning of the gospel, even before any of the older heretics." (Against Praxeas, ch 2) 200 AD Tertullian "That there are two Gods and two Lords, however, is a statement which we will never allow to issue from our mouth; not as if the Father and the Son were not God, nor the Spirit God, and each of them God; but formerly two were spoken of as Gods and two as Lords, so that when Christ would come, he might both be acknowledged as God and be called Lord, because he is the Son of him who is both God and Lord" (Against Praxeas 13:6) 200 AD Tertullian "The Spirit is God, and the Word is God, because proceeding from God, but yet is not actually the very same as He from whom He proceeds.." (Against Praxeas, ch 26) 200 AD Tertullian "For He could not have been the Father previous to the Son, nor a judge previous to sin" (Against Hermogones, Ch 3) 200 AD Tertullian "He will be God, and the Word - the Son of God. We see plainly the twofold state, which is not confounded, but conjoined in One Person - Jesus, God and Man.." (Against Praxeas, ch 27) 200 AD Tertullian "God alone is without sin. The only man who is without sin is Christ; for Christ is also God" (The Soul 41:3)
I always invited JWs in in the past but also informed them upfront I held a separate belief system. Nothing wrong with offering a small kindness. Your teachings are helpful.
@@salserokorsou .. do you think that God is responsible for people's choice when they choose a religion? FYI - there are not thousands of versions of true Christianity - there is only one. - Ephesians 4:5 'one Lord, one faith, one baptism;' The true religion is identified by its fruits and also its unity in obedience to the Christ and Jesus' teaching. Who today are fulfilling Jesus' commission to make disciples and preach the "good news about God's kingdom"? - Matthew 24:14 Mark 13:10 Matthew 28:19 & 20 Which global organization has unity according to the scriptural requirement found at 1 Corinthians 1:10 and Hebrews 10:25 Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought. And let us consider one another so as to incite to love and fine works, 25 not forsaking our meeting together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you see the day drawing near. Who really are God's witnesses? “You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none. 11 I-I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.” 12 “I am the One who declared and saved and made known When there was no foreign god among you. So you are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “and I am God."
@@VestalNumbre You quoted 1 Timothy, but what "scripture" was he referring to? The gospel tales weren't written then. He could only have been referring to the Hebrew scriptures, so how does that help your case? Also, 1 Timothy is a proven forgery. Dr. Bart Ehrman, Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina: "We have already seen that supporters of Paul forged letters in his name. These pseudonymous authors obviously felt that Paul’s authority could prove persuasive in the context of the various controversies and struggles the Christian community was encountering. So we have a range of Pauline writings that he did not in fact write: Ephesians, Colossians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, 3 Corinthians, letters to Seneca, and no doubt numerous other letters that have not survived from the early church." - Forged: Writing in the Name of God--Why the Bible's Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are, pg 209
I was a JW for 14 years. I was suspicious of many of the teachings even when I was in. In fact, I had some and got baptized in spite of that. The one thing I learned as a JW is to trust that voice in your head that’s telling you that’s something is not right and get away. I eventually listened to my voice and walked away and didn’t look back.
@@truthbetold8610 - LOL! By walking away from both the multiple false teachings and the rigid control of the JW masters who demand that people be their thralls? Get real. It can't be anything other than WONDERFUL to be free from that.
@@jamesritter5078 You know nothing about JW teachings so your "knowledge" is based on lies from ignorant preachers like this fool, Winger. Rigid control!? What a crock! You're too clueless to even comment.
I had a few JWs come up to me recently in the street but they didn’t even say they where JW. They started talking about the Our Father prayer and a couple very “Christian” things then invited me to their gathering. As a Catholic Christian I was happy to agree about the importance of scripture, prayer and living out the faith. It was only when I actually looked at the leaflet they gave me I clocked the logo
@@jimjuri6490he said, when he looked at the leaflet. If someone hands you a watchtower leaflet, they're probably JW. Also, that seems exactly like what they do and to some extent I don't blame them, people are mean.
@@GreatDayEveryone : Plenty of people hand leaflets to people. Political agenda persons do. I do not think JWs do such. JWs would explain the reason why they are preaching and then hand something over if the person is in a hurry for him to read later.
I was raised a Catholic and I used to recite the Our father prayer without paying attention to what the words were saying. It was not until I began to study with Jehovah’s Witnesses that I began to understand the scripture. As opposed to using a title. I learned that God has a name, Jehovah. Jesus in the model prayer hallowed God’s name. And he prayed that Gods will be done on earth be done as it is in heaven. Psalm 37:9,10,28,29 shows us that the wicked will be done away with and the earth will be made a paradise, just as originally intended. I am grateful that someone knocked at my door. I have a hope for the future and look forward to seeing my dead family members again. John5:28,29
You got almost everything correct, but the governing body is not in Brooklyn, NY anymore. They have moved to Warwick, NY. This is not a criticism. You are doing great work, but the current JW will pick up on this. I appreciate you caring about JW. I was raised a JW. Show them, love. Most of them are good people. Thank you!
@@MikeWinger Even the disciples of Jesus had wrong expectations, they believed Jesus was going to set up the Kingdom or Government right then and there and take away the oppression of Rome. But no it would be a while and more learning till they understood biblical prophecy.
@Ben Hurn this bashing of others because you do not like what they say is very divisive and only serves the evil one. The trinity message being perpetrated by certain Christian churches is only confusing their people and the result is that they do not understand who the Father or the Son truly are. This lack of accurate biblical knowledge will cause many to lose their way spiritually. It is a very sad thing to see those who are suppose shepherd their flock with accurate Biblical teaching using man-made teachings that do not stand up to scrutiny.
@Ben Hurn there is a line between bashing and telling the truth. Bashing would indicate maliciousness, and this certainly isn't that. Youbhave to explain why the JW doctrine is, quite frankly, blasphemy. Doing so isn't bashing.
@Ben Hurn I would say that that is a nonsequetor. I would dare say that based on previous videos of Mr. Winger, he is also speaking out against the teachings of "progressive Christian pastors" blasphemers as well, so I'm not quite sure of the point. He's specifically addressing the doctrine of the JW area and how to attempt and counteract their teachings to save them. Is that not worth exploring? I'm not quite putting the "bashing" and the proverbial cleaning of a back yard together and I would invite you to clarify.
He doesn’t know anything that’s why he’s being quiet. The other numbnuts is the one who has the radio voice so he is the one who is blabbing all these lies. Y’all are so easily fooled 😂
I met a few JW at a park and began sharing my testimony, not knowing that they were Jw. They told me they were and started trying to debate specifics about several subjects, but I just kept going back to “we can debate our entire lives and it would get us nowhere, how you know you’re born again is when the Holy Spirit is developing fruit in your life, Joy, gratitude, peace, etc etc” every time I said this they nodded and the man kept looking down. He knew I was right. I said everything in joy and love (praise be to God), I know they could feel my joy, and I could sense that they had no joy, in fact they seemed depressed. I don’t say that as a put down either. I know the Lord led me to meet them and share the gospel with them, He loves them. And though I couldn’t tell them anything that jw’s are specifically wrong about, the way The Lord used me to keep sharing about the fruit of the Holy Spirit was even better, instead of me vs them it became about the wonderful changes God has done in me. I know they could see the Holy Spirit in me and that they were missing out on it, hopefully they’ll seek Christ.
Then that shows the JWs have the truth. Because becoming a JW means producing good fruit. Jesus said in Mt. 7:13-23 that we can know the true religion based on that good fruit and whose not because of their rotten fruit. That rotten fruit would be things like joining the military and fighting and killing in wars. Supporting and allowing and condoning immorality and homosexuality and abortion. Plus smoking, drugs, over drinking, gambling, etc. Being part of the world by voting and supporting/ running for office in politics. And infusing paganism into their worship. JWs do not. So displaying the fruitage of the spirit requires changes and not doing the above.
@@StretchMn you are debating about specific things again. They did not have any fruit of joy, they looked depressed as I said. Being born again is not about one specific denomination, lots of people in every denomination including many people in jw’s are luke warm. The Bible says the luke warm will be spit out of God’s mouth. Several people of every denomination are wolves. Then there is the born again Christian, filled with the Holy Spirit. I believe there are born again people in every denomination, maybe some more than others but either way, God can reach anyone in anyplace. There’s lots of born again believers that are not even part of a church. God chooses. These are people that are passionate about God and show the fruit of change in their lives and the fruit of joy, peace, patience, etc. following specific things in the Bible does not make a person born again. One still must be filled with the Holy Spirit. And I also do not celebrate pagan holidays or the other things you mentioned, because the Lord led me away from them right after I was born again. I did join the military, but that was before I was born again. The Lord led me out of that right before covid happened, praise Him because I’d have lost all my benefits had I stayed in, because I would’ve never taken that jab.
@@kristinaa9476 Thats good that you can see changing your life and being obedient to God is a must, and that you did. But as for joy, JWs are the most joyful people as a group there is. Everyone has moments of sadness and stress living in this wicked and imperfect. world
@@kristinaa9476 JWs follow the command and example of Jesus and preach and go out everywhere they can to reach people. Once in a great while, someone may be not as chipper as they could. The fruits Jesus discussed applies to anyone who would want to follow Jesus. So that's how know who is worshipping in truth, individually or a group. The JWs are known for their determination and adherence to the scriptures and God's principles. It's better when we can find common ground and be cordial. 🙂
I am so happy that I left the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah witnesses...... I am a born-again Christian and I believe in my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and I'm so happy I am so happy to say that I have found the best way of giving glory to God and Jesus Christ.
@jamesritter5078 Hi Carolyn 👋. I am a JW. I was unaware that it wasn't noticed in the comments. But my story, what would you like to know? But I will tell you that I'm not interested in arguing. I can help sincere people from being deceived by these false religious teachers
@@kjh4112 Ecclesiastes 5:2 Do not be quick with your mouth, nor let your heart speak rashly before the true God, for the true God is in the heavens but you are on the earth.that is why your words should be few.
Kim Sabbatino, if you accuse someone of twisting facts, you can't just leave it at that. You have to say how they have done this, otherwise everyone could say that about anything without needing proof
@@trkstatrksta8410 look into the jw teaching that ancient Jerusalem fell in 607 bc to get to their 1914 doctrine, they got it all wrong it fell in 586/587
Kim it is so sad that you think the JWs have twisted the Bible. I give you a challenged to try to prove that we have. I will answer any objection that you have.
Thanks so much. Very helpful info and it explains why the two JW's that I know got so quiet when I was excitedly talking about Jesus and the Holy Spirit and my day of salvation that I remember so clearly.
Starting on the path to salvation is a fine thing. But our salvation happens when we endure. (Matthew 24:13) But the one who has endured to the end will be saved.
Anna - Tralfaz is a JW and that is the reason for his post. JWs believe that faith in Christ is just "the start" of salvation - After that, the JWs have a LOT of requirements for salvation that are not biblical. "Enduring" for a JW means receiving, believing and following all the things the JW "leaders" dictate to them.
@@jamesritter5078 Phil 2:12 Consequently, my beloved ones, just as you have always obeyed, not only during my presence but now much more readily during my absence, keep working out your own salvation with fear and trembling. (Luke 13:24) “Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able.
@@777Tralfaz777 That's talking about physically enduring the Great Tribulation, not general salvation. Salvation (justification) is a ONE TIME event (cf. John 3:14). Paul said to the Philippian jailer in Acts 16:31 "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved." The word 'believe' is an AORIST imperative, signifying a COMPLETED event. If Paul had taught what the Watchtower (and other cults) erroneously teach, he would have used the PRESENT imperative, which would carry the meaning. "Keep on believing."
I talked to some JWs at the park about a month ago for about an hour (emphasis on “I talked to”, as they really didn’t wanna talk). They kept telling that they weren’t really there to talk, but rather to hand out literature. After about 30 mins or persistence, they finally opened up a bit and explained to me that I was wrong about the trinity. My final question for them was “will I go to hell if I’m not a Jehovah’s Witness?” The older gentleman resorted back to the comfort of his original answer and said “the answers you seek will surely be on the websites listed in our brochures.”
That's because they are not there to argue. But the trinity is pagan and false. And fortunately, you won't go to hell if you're not of Jehovah’s Witnesses. As there is no such place. You'll just be dead, cease to exist.
You asked "My final question for them was “will I go to hell if I’m not a Jehovah’s Witness?”" Your concept of hell, or our, the JW view of hell? Which is mankind's common grave. All who go to hell are resurrected, with a chance to accept Jesus and his sacrifice. Then hell is thrown into the lake of fire. KJV Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Those who go to Gehenna, which is also the lake of fire, will never come back. Gone forever.
@@StretchMn where were the Jehovah's Witness for the last 2,000 years? Who was the HOLY SPIRIT teaching during all that time? John 14 : 16 says JESUS promised to sent the HOLY SPIRIT to his disciples and will be with them forever. Mathew 16 : 18 says CHRIST promised to build his church and that it cannot die. The weeds don't kill the wheat for both grow together.
@Episcopalianacolyte Where was the Episcopal church for the last 2,000 years? Your church was only founded a 100 years earlier in 1789 in Philadelphia. Actually, it's a good thing your church didn't exist that long, since your church accepts and promotes homosexuality. Something Jesus finds disgusting.
Where where the Jehovah's Witnesses for the last 2,000 years? Luke 14 : 28 and 29 For which of you intending to build a tower, does not sit diwn first and estimate the cost, to see whetger he has enough to complete it? Otherwise when he has laid a foundation and is unable to finish, all who will begin to ridicule him. JESUS did the same with his church.
Yeah, because Easter is pagan, it's worldly or if you find it in your Bible and then figure out it's appropriate. Then challenge yourself. But you're gonna find that true. Christians were fighting against paganism. In other words, the current Christian mainstream. Or what we call Christendom. They are aligned or an opposition to true Christianity.. They believe in the doctrines of men.They do not believe holy in the bible.
And you should do a step-by-step scripture.Comparisen as to who Michael the Ark angel is, if they are wrong about him.Why don't you tell your audience who he is
Are you religious organizations out there? No good and well Jehovah's witnesses have the truth. They're not aligned with the government. They're not into paganism or idolatry. All the things that you've learned. But you make up these twisted things with Trinity. Telling people they're gonna burn in hell. Corrupting the whole thing if Jesus were God. Why wouldn't he just say he was God?And why does he say that he works and was deployed by jehovah
Best to use scriptures, You got some explaining to do! What does this mean? 1 Corinthians 15:23+ But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.(Revelation 14:1)21For since death came through a man, (Adam) the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.(Jesus)22For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.23But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits;(RO. 5:17) then, when he comes, those who belong to him.24Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.25For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.26The last enemy to be destroyed is death.27For he "has put everything under his feet." [3] Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 15:28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone. Jesus said: You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am. And when all things shall be subdued unto him (Jehovah)
My grandmother was a Baptist deacon that knew the Bible inside-out back-to-front. Jehovah's Witnesses used to stop by her house all the time. Eventually they were instructed to stay away from her house. Because they went in as Jehovah's Witnesses, and left as Christians after she was done with them.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
by the higher-ups back in the JW's. Apparently a few of them told the leadership about this lovely lady that they had been having these discussions with, and she made enough of an impression that the JW leadership in the area wanted their folks that were going door-to-door to stay away from that address, because the people that visited her were starting to have reservations about the JW's. Same thing happened with mormons. @larysnw418
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr actually it is because the Bible mentions that the Earth is spherical.Isaiah 22:18 ESV / 14 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful And whirl you around and around, and throw you like a ball into a wide land. There you shall die, and there shall be your glorious chariots, you shame of your master's house
I remember when i was a teen a JW came to my grandmas door and i answered it, i had no idea what they believed but he tried showing me some scripture and i told him we were already saved. She gave me a pamphlet and it was the watchtower. Later when my grandma came down stairs she saw it own the table and said "Who brought this witchcraft and blasphemy in my house" i got an ear full that we dont take the pamphlets from JW and we dont entertain their conversations. (Grew up COGIC)
When someone tells a JW that he is already saved, it makes it obvious that that person doesn't know what the Bible teaches. Saved from what they might ask. But that would embarrass people. So they give a bit of literature and leave.
@@jacobmarkell2568 : First explain what SAVED means? Saved from what? People who claim to be saved, should know what they are talking about, surely. Based on the explanation, we can compare it with what the Bible teaches.
I’m really enjoying seeing all my favorite Christian TH-camrs getting together and teaching the word of God. Your platforms is growing really fast. God bless you brothers.
If you actually read The Bible, you will see these "Christians" in the videos are far away from being True Christians. Study and research Gods word, and pray to God to help you find him and to get closer to him with all, total sincerity and humility, and you will see and know (Psalm 1:1-6 [focus on #2], the "wicked" are all who don't "read [Gods word] in an undertone day and night" or those who don't come to an accurate knowledge of the truth).
@@markuse3472....You can study the Word of God for 30 years and not have it written on your heart. The Word of God needs to be written unto your heart as well as you studying it.
I've come to realized adult JWs raised as a JW have some of the worst cognitive dissonance and depression. Like any cult, leaving means cutting ties with your family and everyone you've grown up with and - since the community is so isolated - they are left with no one. Praying for my many brothers and sisters still suffering alone; inside and outside of this organization.
@@777Tralfaz777 I'm a former JW and have friends and family who are formerly and currently JWs. The cognitive dissonance I've seen manifest in current members results from the inability to hold any kind of relationship from people outside of the organization. An example would be my father, who I see 2-3 times a year. Each time he brings study materials so he has a reason to come but he misses his kids and grandkids and has a heart full of regret from not watching them grow up. JW congregations encourage this type of behavior and use scriptures like 1 Cor 5:13 and 1 Cor 15:33,34 to support the belief that they should isolate themselves from any type of non believer, non active member, or a member in danger of being marked or disfellowshipped.
@@James-xq1mp That is not what I understood cognitive dissonance to mean. Cognitive dissonance has to do with knowing one thing, but being taught and saying you believe something else. That manner of mental conflict. It is not about following scriptural counsel, even though it is difficult.
@@777Tralfaz777 Correct. It is holding two conflicting beliefs in your mind. Whole heartedly believing that God didn't want to separate you from your family and believing that the JW organization is the truth is contradictory. Raymond Franz, the governing body member who resigned his position and left the organization, described the situation many JWs find themselves in as having to choose between loyalty to God and loyalty to religion.
@@James-xq1mp Matt 10: 34 Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. 35 For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me. 38 And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds his soul will lose it, and whoever loses his soul for my sake will find it. While we are sinners, and the spiritual man fights the physical man within us, JW do not teach inconsistent beliefs. Following your religion should be following God. Were you baptized as one of JW?
I too was born and raised a jw . I remember the day in March 2018 when I resigned from jw like. I took my NWT bibles, both the old black 1984 version and the grey one as well and made a fire to burn them. After I set them to flame and they started burning I felt remorse and started killing the flame to rescue the bibles. I started praying and asking God to forgive me for burnings the bibles. Then out of the blue I heard this very loud audible voice and it said “HE WHO DENIES THE FATHER AND THE SON IS THE ANTICHRIST”. There was nobody near me to have said this and in fact the voice sounded exactly like my own, but very loud and audible. I thereafter continued burning the bibles.
@@san-g1344 I felt remorse so I stopped burning them. I thereafter continued burning them coz I heard Gods voice saying "HE WHO DENIES THE FATHER AND THE SON IS THE ANTICHRIST. "(1 John 2v22). Gods voice confirmed that I was correct by getting rid of this mistranslation. That this translation is of the antichrist since it denies the Father and the Son.
Praise be to God!! Acts 19:18-20 KJV [18] And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds. [19] Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men : and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. [20] So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I too am a whole Bible believer. What do you think Mike said that equips you to converse with us? Do you believe this verse? (1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
@@777Tralfaz777 You're not a bible believer. 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria [note: Clement NEVER calls Jesus a creature.] "There was then, a Word importing an unbeginning eternity; as also the Word itself, that is, the Son of God, who being, by equality of substance, one with the Father, is eternal and uncreated." (Fragments, Part I, section III) "that so great a work was accomplished in so brief a space by the Lord, who, though despised as to appearance, was in reality adored, the expiator of sin, the Saviour, the clement, the Divine Word, He that is truly most manifest Deity, He that is made equal to the Lord of the universe; because He was His Son, and the Word was in God, not disbelieved in by all when He was first preached, nor altogether unknown when, assuming the character of man, and fashioning Himself in flesh, He enacted the drama of human salvation: for He was a true champion and a fellow-champion with [ie. God among creatures, not that Jesus is classed as a creature] the creature." (Exhortations, Chap 10) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "I understand nothing else than the Holy Trinity to be meant; for the third is the Holy Spirit, and the Son is the second, by whom all things were made according to the will of the Father." (Stromata, Book V, ch. 14) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "When [John] says: 'What was from the beginning [1 John 1:1],' he touches upon the generation without beginning of the Son, who is co-equal with the Father. 'Was,' therefore, is indicative of an eternity without a beginning, just as the Word Himself, that is the Son, being one with the Father in regard to equality of substance, is eternal and uncreated. That the word always existed is signified by the saying: 'In the beginning was the Word' [John 1:1]." (fragment in Eusebius History, Bk 6 Ch 14; Jurgens, p. 188) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria 'For both are one - that is, God. For He has said, "In the beginning the Word was in God, and the Word was God." (The Instructor, Book 1, ch 8) 190 AD Clement of Alexandria "Despised as to appearance but in reality adored, [Jesus is] the Expiator, the Savior, the Soother, the Divine Word, he that is quite evidently true God, he that is put on a level with the Lord of the universe because he was his Son." (Exhortation to the Greeks, 10:110:1). 190 AD Clement of Alexandria "The Word, then, the Christ, is the cause both of our ancient beginning, for lie was in God, and of our well-being. And now this same Word has appeared as man. He alone is both God and man, and the source of all our good things" (Exhortation to the Greeks 1:7:1). 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "Now, O you, my children, our Instructor is like His Father God, whose son He is, sinless, blameless, and with a soul devoid of passion; God in the form of man, stainless, the minister of His Father's will, the Word who is God, who is in the Father, who is at the Father's right hand, and with the form of God is God." (Instructor, Book I, ch. 2) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "His Son Jesus, the Word of God, is our Instructor.... He is God and Creator." (Instructor, Book I, ch. 11) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "This is the New Song, the manifestation of the Word that was in the beginning, and before the beginning. The Savior, who existed before, has in recent days appeared. He, who is in Him that truly is, has appeared; for the Word, who "was with God," and by whom all things were created, has appeared as our Teacher. The Word, who in the beginning bestowed on us life as Creator when He formed us, taught us to live well when He appeared as our Teacher; that as God He might afterwards conduct us to the life which never ends." (Exhortation To The Heathen, ch 2) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "This Word, then, the Christ, the cause of both our being at first (for He was in God) and of our well-being, this very Word has now appeared as man, He alone being both, both God and man" (Exhortation To The Heathen, ch 2) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "For it was not without divine care that so great a work was accomplished in so brief a space by the Lord, who, though despised as to appearance, was in reality adored, the expiator of sin, the Savior, the clement, the Divine Word, He that is truly most manifest Deity, He that is made [made = appointed not created, ie. made king after resurrection.] equal to the Lord of the universe; because He was His Son, and the Word was in God, not disbelieved in by all when He was first preached, nor altogether unknown when, assuming the character of man, and fashioning Himself in flesh" (Exhortation To The Heathen, ch 10) 190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "Now, O you, my children, our Instructor is like His Father God, whose son He is, sinless, blameless, and with a soul devoid of passion; God in the form of man, stainless, the minister of His Father's will, the Word who is God, who is in the Father, who is at the Father's right hand, and with the form of God is God." (The Instructor, Book 1, ch 2) 200 AD Tertullian
200 AD Tertullian 200 AD Tertullian "Never did any angel descend for the purpose of being crucified, of tasting death, and of rising again from the dead." (The Flesh of Christ, ch 6) 200 AD Tertullian "All the Scriptures give clear proof of the Trinity, and it is from these that our principle is deduced...the distinction of the Trinity is quite clearly displayed." (Against Praxeas, ch 11) 200 AD Tertullian "The origins of both his substances display him as man and as God: from the one, born, and from the other, not born" (The Flesh of Christ, 5:6-7). 200 AD Tertullian "[God speaks in the plural 'Let us make man in our image'] because already there was attached to Him his Son, a second person, his own Word, and a third, the Spirit in the Word....one substance in three coherent persons. He was at once the Father, the Son, and the Spirit." (Against Praxeas, ch 12) 200 AD Tertullian "Thus the connection of the Father in the Son, and of the Son in the Paraclete, produces three coherent Persons, who are yet distinct One from Another. These Three are, one essence, not one Person, as it is said, 'I and my Father are One' [John 10:30], in respect of unity of Being not singularity of number" (Against Praxeas, 25) 200 AD Tertullian "As if in this way also one were not All, in that All are of One, by unity (that is) of substance; while the mystery of the dispensation is still guarded, which distributes the Unity into a Trinity, placing in their order the three Persons - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost: three, however, not in condition, but in degree; not in substance, but in form; not in power, but in aspect; yet of one substance, and of one condition, and of one power, inasmuch as He is one God, from whom these degrees and forms and aspects are reckoned, under the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." (Against Praxeas, by Tertullian) 200 AD Tertullian "So too, that which has come forth out of God is at once God and the Son of God; and the two are one.... In his birth he is God and man united." (Apology, ch 21) 200 AD Tertullian "There is one only God, but under the following dispensation, or oikonomia, as it is called, that this one only God has also a Son, His Word, who proceeded from Himself, by whom all things were made, and without whom nothing was made. Him we believe to have been sent by the Father into the Virgin, and to have been born of her - being both Man and God, the Son of Man and the Son of God, and to have been called by the name of Jesus Christ; we believe Him to have suffered, died, and been buried, according to the Scriptures, and, after He had been raised again by the Father and taken back to heaven, to be sitting at the right hand of the Father, and that He will come to judge the quick and the dead; who sent also from heaven from the Father, according to His own promise, the Holy Ghost, the Paraclete, the sanctifier of the faith of those who believe in the Father, and in the Son, and in the Holy Ghost. That this rule of faith has come down to us from the beginning of the gospel, even before any of the older heretics." (Against Praxeas, ch 2) 200 AD Tertullian "That there are two Gods and two Lords, however, is a statement which we will never allow to issue from our mouth; not as if the Father and the Son were not God, nor the Spirit God, and each of them God; but formerly two were spoken of as Gods and two as Lords, so that when Christ would come, he might both be acknowledged as God and be called Lord, because he is the Son of him who is both God and Lord" (Against Praxeas 13:6) 200 AD Tertullian "The Spirit is God, and the Word is God, because proceeding from God, but yet is not actually the very same as He from whom He proceeds.." (Against Praxeas, ch 26)@@777Tralfaz777
Mike that was such a good discussion. Want to wake my Dad (JW) up , but it’s been over 50 years !! I have to leave it in Gods hands and carry on praying for him. Blessings from the U.K.
@Lisa Bates Zeus works weekends, beside the other gods are too busy finding car keys and killing tiny infants on the African continent. If your god was a woman, she could multitask. Bad luck.
I am a Christian, married a Christian, and now he's a JW. How effective is my marriage. How does my husband view me not being in the Truth? I truly need to know.
@@vanessapeterson4418 Biblically, marriage is marriage. The two of you disagreeing on whether Jesus is "God the Son" or "The Son of God" is certainly an important topic, but not one that nullifies marriage vows (biblically). It is a topic that would be best to respectfully discuss. ... but... actually respectfully. Not condemning someone for disagreeing on which scriptures should be taken more literally.
I am an exJW I can tell you that I’m so happy to be out of there, I’ve never been so bored in all my life. I gave up all festivals, I was completely brainwashed ! Broke down 😢 but this gave me my freedom. I really enjoy listening to you Mike so thank you 🙏
@@StretchMn Festivals = xmas birthdays Easter Mother’s Day. In fact the only celebration we were aloud to have in our lives was wedding anniversaries and the memorial. Hoping this gives you an insight of what it’s like on the inside.
@dinkytaylor1645 oh it does! Christmas and Easter are almost purely pagan. Halloween is purely demonic and pagan. Why would a Christian want to celebrate them?
@@dinkytaylor1645You do know that all of those holidays you mentioned, are actually of Pagan origin. The Catholic church is responsible for making those holidays "Christian", to bring in followers.
@@hatred4humanity yes indeed I do know about the pagan festivals, I still satisfy my family and join in reluctantly. The anagram of santa is as you can see is satan 😱
Grew up in a JW home. It was not a good time. I turned 17 and moved out so I didn't have to participate in this cult. I am now a Born Again Christian. I have gone round and round with the JW's on salvation, Jesus and who He is, on the 144k and more. Their ears do not want to hear the truth. It's amazing how they refuse to listen. One man came to my door, when sharing a scripture with him, he had a meltdown, screaming and running from my door. It was very weird. They predicted the end of the world dozens of times and well, nothing. They still keep predicting with no results.
People love to have their ears tickled, and to join the broad road to destruction. That is their choice. But to pretend it was the wise choice is the true folly. Please, share scripture with me. Jesus is God's Son, and was sent by God to be the Messiah. Do you agree?
Hi, denise. I'm not a JW. Mark/StretchMn and Tralfaz are, and that is the reason for their posts. I'm glad to read that you escaped from the JWs. You're right in what you've said.
I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness. I was required to "prepare for" and attend FIVE meetings per week...The Ministry School, The Service Meeting, The Book Study, The Watchtower Study and the Public Talk. Along with this, I was expected to get at LEAST 10 hours of "Field Service" or Door to Door each month, prepare and give a "talk" about every two months, and attend all of the Circuit and District Conventions. (District Conventions back then were FIVE LONG DAYS.) I had very little time or energy for anything else, and I rarely did any homework. I was also not allowed to have any friends in "the world" or "worldly" friends. I was not allowed to partake in ANY after school activities...I was not even allowed to join the Chess Club. I never got to celebrate Christmas or have a birthday party...not to mention Easter, 4th of July or any other holiday. And I did not have a clue that I was in a cult. I believed everything I was taught since I was a baby, and like I was trained, would DEFEND "the truth" to anyone that tried to show me the true light or real truth. I was about 40 years old when I began to question what I had been taught. I coincided with them changing the doctrine on 1914 yet again, due to their "new light." According to them, the generation of 1914, is STILL alive, and Jesus has already returned, but he came invisibly. Once I started to do honest research with a lot of it using the "Societies" own past publications, my eyes were opened. (Among other things, they have had one false prophesy after another.) I have now been free from this high control cult for many years, after doing a "long fade" as to avoid being disfellowshiped and shunned, simply for no longer agreeing with their doctrine. One thing to keep in mind...you may....just may, be able to plant a small seed of doubt in the mind of a JW, but they are TRAINED to raise their shields and NOT even listen to anyone or anything that questions the teaching of their Governing Body...especially an X-JW who they refer to as "apostates." They will not visit your church, or read anything you give to them. At your door, they may take it, but they are trained to throw it away without looking at it. Never forget they are truly cultists. And I am so glad I have freed myself from them.
@MalwandeMbatha-gu9mx Yes, it most certainly has. I just wish it would not have taken me so long to open my eyes, and then so long to "fade" without losing most of my family. As a JW, it seemed like I could NEVER do enough to gain life. Even during the years when I did everything that was expected of me, I always had doubts as to whether or not I was going to make it through the "great tribulation," and live forever. (And I was always SO tired.) I never will forget the day I told my mother that I had excepted Jesus into my heart, and finally felt a calm and sense of freedom that I never had as a Witness. Her response?...."Jesus Jesus Jesus...don't you care about Jehovah anymore?" She did not take it well when I told her that if she read a real Bible instead of the NWT, without the Watchtower telling her what it "really'" means, that she would soon believe the same as I did....That Jesus IS God.
Indeed. I was briefly involved with them as a child....many of their beliefs are dark and they are definitely a type of cult. Any religion that doesn't teach people to love each other is a false one, and they talk about being massacred and that one should have any regret about all those deaths as they were enemies of God. I hope your coworker doesn't adopt deicide...that was one of the ideas that really made me realize how dark and false they are. It's the belief that one should hate Jews because they supposedly murdered Jesus of Nazareth. :-O
Those who are saved by Grace , the word Grace is derived from the 3 PAGAN GODESSES of Greek Mythology , the Graces ? ? ? A LITTLE LEAVEN FERMENTS THE WHOLE LUMP ? ? ?
@@neutrino78x With what proof do you back up that statement that JWs do not teach love? JWs do not not get involved in politics, which is divided in hate and anger. They do not go out and protest, which is divided in hate and anger and violence. They do not join or support in the military and wars, which is divided in hate and anger and violence and killing. But every other "christian" religion does. Which means Catholics kill Catholics, Protestants killing other Protestants, Mormons killing other Mormons, and non-denominational killing other non-denominational. Jesus commanded his followers not be part of the world. JWs are known for their preaching and teaching. Something Jesus commanded to do. Which shows their love for others, as they want everyone to know the truth. Jesus said you would know the true religion by its fruits. A good tree produces good fruit and a rotten tree produces rotten fruit. As we are all imperfect and fall short, JWs then are the most loving organization there is. All the others will be asking Jesus why they aren't saved at the end. (See Mt. 7:13-23) JWs are not happy when people die. But there is a scripture that does say those who live by the sword will die by the sword. (Mt. 26:52) So violent people may die violently. Thats sad, but its what happens because of their choices. So JWs do not hate people, they hate the bad that they do. But each one will be judged for his or her actions. And what those particular Jews, and those pharisees, did in having Jesus beat and killed was despicable. These were the ones that Jesus called offspring of vipers for their attitudes and actions.
@@neutrino78x Wars in the Bible, are by God not man, God has perfect justice, he knows when and were to act you cannot tell him 'no God don't do this or that.' JW never fight in modern day wars, in WW2 Catholic, Protestant, and mormon Americans, killed German and Italian Catholics, Protestant and mormon brothers and other religions. An identifying mark of a true christain is love, these religions were not showing love at all, JW didn't kill each other or anyone else.
Random to post here...but, I did watch and enjoy this video, too. I just wanted to say Happy Easter to you Mike. I gain so much from your online ministry, am strengthened in mine through you, and keep thinking and growing as the Holy Spirit works to preserve and sustain me through your Bible studies and research. Thank you for all of it, every video, every topic, every post. The victory is ours...paid in full. He is risen!
Easter is the pagan goddess of fertility. Just letting you know so you can stop observing a holy day to a false god. Christ died on Passover and rose on the feast of first fruits.
@Dixie Hall Jesus is risen, meaning he’s been resurrected. Who resurrected him? Acts 2:24 says God resurrected Jesus. Acts 10:40; Romans 8:11; Hebrews 13:20; all show the same thing. Hallelujah is an abbreviation for Praise Jah, or Hail Jehovah. So you’re saying praise Jehovah for resurrecting Jesus. I would agree with that.
I was born and raised JW. Jesus saved me. My mom is a JW, and I’m trying to tell her that it’s not the truth, and she won’t listen to me. I do understand why she won’t listen, but I keep trying. Is there a good question I can ask her?
pray for her, keep praying. don't aggressively confront her believes, that'd make her put more barrier so she even won't listen, much less give anything you say a thought. start with telling any sayings/wisdoms/advices from the bible (just roughly quote it) that is relevant to what's happening or to daily/small talks between you. after sometimes, when she doesn't feel uncomfortable with the biblical quotes you said to her, you can touch doctrinal subjects but don't force it if she feels uncomfortable/agitate. then you can openly talk with her when she is willing to open her ears and mind to hear and think of your views, and have a healthy discussion/debate. it's works on my mom, but sadly not on my dad. i hope it will help. p.s. sorry for bad english.
@Debbie Dobson Yes, ask her to have a Bible study with you and examine the scriptures in depth. Either you will learn the truth or you will draw her away.
Remember her in your prayers take a time before God, fasting etc. sometimes telling, arguing are not enough we need intervention from God and guidance from Holysprit.
Mike Mike Mike All Theology Majors And Bible Students know Jehovah's Name is in ALL Bibles Don't be disingenuous God"s name is in your Bible. Stop the Scandalous Misrepresentation Genesis 22 Jehovah Jireh “Jehovahjireh” appears only once in the entire Bible-in Genesis 22:14 (KJV). It means “God provides.” Genesis 22: 14 Psalms 83:18 The name of Good King Jehoshaphat means "God is Judge, Has Judged" Jehoram (meaning "Jehovah is exalted" in Biblical Hebrew) was the name of several individuals in the Tanakh. Jehoiachin means "May God establish" Jehioakim : God Avenges, God Stands up Jehoiadah : Yahweh knows From Hebrew Yəhōyādhāʿ “Yahweh knows What is the meaning of Jehonadab? Jehovah is willing Jehonadab (Hebrew: יְהוֹנָדָב; meaning Jehovah is willing; Latin: Jonadab) was the son of Rechab. He is mentioned in 2 Kings 10:15-31. Jehoash: Yahweh has given Jehovah-shammah is a Christian transliteration of the Hebrew יְהוָה שָׁמָּה (Yahweh šāmmāh) meaning "Jehovah is there", the name given to the city in Ezekiel's vision in Ezekiel 48:35. Jehovah-nissi According to Exodus 17:13-16 in the Bible, Jehovah-nissi is the name given by Moses to the altar which he built to celebrate the defeat of the Amalekites at Rephidim Jehovah Rapha Jehovah-Rapha? God is known by many names in the Bible. Each name reveals a certain aspect of His character. Jehovah-Rapha is one such name found in the Old Testament and means “The God who heals” in Hebrew. Jehovah Shalom” is Hebrew for “the God of peace.” Now, the first appearance of the name Jehovah Shalom is in the Old Testament story of Gideon in Judges 6.
When 1 Thes 4:16 says Christ shall descend from heaven "with the voice of the Archangel", it is referring to a shout and declaration by the Archangel particularly-appointed to herald Christ's appearance. It is not in reference to any shout or voicing from Christ Himself.
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@@sebastiansingh5167 The trinity theory states that the Father is NOT the son and the son is NOT the Father. Jesus showed in his entire life on earth that he and the Father are two separate and distinct individuals. Jesus also said at Jo. 17:1-3 that the Father is the only true God. He also said at Jo. 4:23 to worship only the Father.
As a former JW, I really appreciated this video. I got baptised as a Christian last weekend. I give God all the glory in showing me 'the truth' about what JW's call 'the truth' and for the justification and regeneration we receive through the intercession of christ and his shed blood. The one thing I want to point out in regards to this video is that the JW's no longer view Russell's "Studies in the Scriptures" as authoritative. They consider their old, out of print books and publications as "Old Light". THat said, they still subscribe to a works-based system of salvation clinging desperately to James 2 without understanding true grace. Thanks MIke for all that you've done to spread the Gospel and to shine a light on the darkness that enslaves so many who think they know Christ but in reality only know the doctrines of men. God Bless you and your family.
@MrMore5450 agreed! They are lazy and fear Man. Also, remember last week’s study? It was clarified what “works of law” meant in relation to faith, vs “works of faith”. Such a great reminder!!
A number of years ago I was living in Leeds and I knocked on a door to share the gospel. The man who opened the door was a JW elder. And I would go and talk to him each week. He would try to take me off the subject, but I would do my best to share Jesus with him. I wasn't very good at doing it. Then after a few visits I was moving to London. So I lost contact with him. Thank you to both of you for sharing how you would do it, I wish I had had that training those years ago.
Throughout the entire Bible, God has always had chosen individuals to guide the rest of the body (ancient Israel and first-second century AD Christians). Among the those taking the lead, there were also others with privileges but not elders or overseers. It's all in Gods Word. God has always had a "governing body." It's all very obvious and simple, just read the Christian Scriptures carefully. What these 'leaders' said, went, or else false Christians were dismissed from the congregation, and from Israel. It has always been like that because God is holy and doesn't allow for disunity and self to be part of his Earthly kingdom. It's all in Gods Word. Jehovah God is eternal, he was not created. So, everything that was created (clearly that leaves God out) came through Jesus. Jesus was the foreman, the General manager, etc. It stuns me that you people can't see or understand this very simple and obvious reasoning backed up by Gods word. "they changed the Bible..."? Excuse yourselves, but every Bible out there was made erroneously. What JWs did is put Gods name, Jehovah, back into it correctly and properly. The rest of the small but important changes were done because they came to find more and more correct information as the decades went by, "The Dead Sea Scrolls" is one fine example, where Gods name is found some seven thousand times, all in praise worthy ways. Punctuation and some adverbs and conjunctions were not used in ancient Hebrew: they properly corrected those inconveniences. Matthew 28:19, 20 says "Go...make disciples of peoples of ALL the nations..." and Matthew 24:14 says "this good news of the kingdom WILL be preached in ALL the inhabited Earth, for a witness to ALL the nations..." That means that because Gods people have always been unified, 'of same mind, of same heart, of same spirit,' the good news must mean everyone in Gods Earthly organization must believe the same message. You guys are funny how you refuse these very obvious truths. It's "universally known by scholars this [The New world Translation] is not a good translation." The world surely is in the grip of Satans hands. Jesus and his followers were called a cult back then, they were laughed at, they were mocked, by the world of common people and religious people. The same back then, the same today in "the last days." Daniel 12:7-10 describes you guys, that you wont understand because you choose not to, and that in the last days Gods people will return. Isaiah 2:2-4 backs that up, that pure worship would return in the last days. Acts 15:14-18 backs that it up, too. And many, many more Scriptures. Gods name will be in the name of his people. You guys choose to ignore these very basic but life-saving truths. Jesus did die for ever as a human being: he did "the will of God" and "accomplished" what he was sent to do. Jesus will now and eternally be a spirit being, as he was before he came to Earth. It's in Gods word. It is true that they have made some errors, but they FIX their errors, unlike every, and that means all other religions, who don't fix their many errors. JWs make progress, just as Israel and first century AD Christians were. God does have a chosen people, and Jews deny Jesus so it can not possibly be them. The Scriptures I posted above identifies JWs as Gods chosen people. You can bash and trash them, but it makes them very, very happy because they do it all for God and Jesus. their lives are secondary. It is all Scriptural. "The Great Tribulation" is without fail coming. "I am Jehovah, and I am a God exacting exclusive devotion" states God. First and second century Christians were being mocked, harassed, beaten, imprisoned, persecuted, tortured and murdered, for "abstaining from blood," for abstaining from having idols of ANY sort, for abstaining from all holidays and such festivities, and for peaching and teaching the good news of Gods kingdom relentlessly. Acts 6:-7 was written for a reason (the case of Stephen), as are all Scriptures (2 Timothy 3:16, 17). They didn't pray to saints. They used Gods name. They were, as this dude in the video belittles JWs for doing today, an isolated, "insulated" people, Gods chosen people. When this system ends, JWs will move on into the paradise Earth God has promised, and will live as perfect beings on it for ever and ever. Those who ignored Jehovah and his message, will unfortunately pass away for ever and be forever forgotten. It's all in Gods word. You can nit pick JWs, but the truth, as I just proved the video a lie or deceptive, is with JWs. They are Gods people.
@@markuse3472 The people who call themselves “Jehovah’s Witnesses” are well known for their efforts to spread their doctrines. In 2001, they claimed they conducted five million studies with people in their homes. It is sad that those who work so hard are teaching false doctrines instead of the truth. The sect known as “Jehovah’s Witnesses” had its beginning in the late 1800’s with a man named Charles Taze Russell. Russell taught Christ would return to the earth in 1914. The fact that He did not return proved Russell was a false prophet (Deuteronomy 18:21,22); (Matthew 24:36-51). Charles T. Russell began an organization to spread his ideas. It is called The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. Since this organization began, they have distributed more than one billion tracts and books, promoting the doctrines of Russell and those who followed him. When Russell died, J. F. “Judge” Rutherford became the new leader of the Watchtower Society. Russell’s followers began calling themselves “Jehovah’s Witnesses” under Rutherford’s leadership. In 1920, he wrote a book called Millions Now Living Will Never Die. In this book he taught those who were faithful to God would be resurrected in 1925. It never happened! Rutherford, like Russell, was proved to be a false prophet (Deuteronomy 18:21,22)! Rutherford died of cancer in 1942. Since that time, this organization has grown greatly. According to their own claims, there were more than six million “Jehovah’s Witnesses” in the worl
@@markuse3472 if anyone truly knew the right path, then they would've needed Jesus to have come, to die for our sins. Just look at most Christians? They never truly put their faith in the creator through his son Jesus who said no one is good but the father in heaven. Yet people disagree on how to be a Christian, they see faults in other people's belief's but not their own. Why would any Christian accept a vaccine? Yet they accept all sorts of vaccines, then they don't understand they can't serve two God's, but most do. They accept the mark by being numbered, you look at any form of registration, they accept a number, whether it's on a driving licence, birth certificate, death certificate, inland revenue, national insurance number, medical card, passport, etc. They are all Man-made, even using their coinage, who did Jesus say when holding a coin and say whose face is on this? He knew, but wanted that man to answer him, and what was his reply?. We are not perfect, that is why the father in heaven, the creator, knew we were all sinners, and we get to be easily fooled. Just look at language, people accept their surname, look up in any etymology dictionary the meaning of that word along with many more that are rooted in Latin. People don't even know capitalise lettering whether it's uppercase, lowercase or a mixture of both, doesn't conform to any known language that can be read, why? The Chicago manual style of English will inform you, it's written for the illiterate, it's called sign language Signs are symbols, which are pictures, which are marks, are all Man-made, yet most people even Christians don't see them for what they're, the Chicago manual style of English will tell you they are ASL American sign language, mostly used by the deaf or mute. Yet we see them everywhere, they're the language of corporations, there's one above every business, and most churches are registered businesses, even if they are not for profit. Those first Christians understood, and never accepted the mark, even if it meant being thrown to the lions, they wouldn't accept being registered. They had their faith in the Lord God, through the Messiah, and understood that you can't serve to masters. I don't fully understand the Amish belief, but they live simply, that they believe that God has a personal and abiding interest in their lives. They live in private and not public, they plant their crops and have faith in the good Lord to give them what they need when they need it, it's called faith. They probably still record birth, death, etc in their family Bible, and not with the authorities. What did the first Christians do? Them apostles, when becoming disciples? Going from students to becoming teachers, they either sold or gave away their possessions, and gave them to the poor. If we all took a leaf out of that book, no one would be wanting for anything, if only the Christians did that, that is what Jesus taught us to do. We are all being deceived in one way or another, through wickedness and we know who is behind that, none of us is perfect, if only we were? A lot of it is done with the trickery of language, people should arm themselves with fully understanding whatever Bible they believe in, understanding what correct grammar of the language they are using, so as not to be sweetened with honeyed words, that mislead you by not knowing what is grammatically correct by not answering for the legal fiction (man-made) name called a person. As written in Act 10:34 (King James Version of the Bible) 34: Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, of a truth, I perceive that God is no respecter of persons. Peter gain the knowledge that the word person was an assumed character, man-made, artificial entity. Person (n.) Directly from Latin persona "human being, person, personage; a part in a drama, assumed character," originally " a mask, a false face," such as those of wood or clay wore by actors in later Roman theatre (etymology dictionary). Just in case you're wondering, I do not conform to any know organised church other than what Jesus preached, yet one of my brother's, my two sisters, five nephews and three nieces are Jehovah's witnesses, and so was my mother before she died. I know I have my faults, and see many in most other people, do you? Or any other Christian reading this? As in life, it's there to be lived, the creator gave us life to be free, the freedom of free will, and in the end, we all have to account for ourselves on the day of judgement. We will be speaking for ourselves, no one else can speak for us, we all walk the path, but is it the right path? Never allow yourself to be deceived by anyone, think for yourself and come to your understanding of what is truth. I question myself all the time, yet I know my flaws, most Christians don't, they lack all-around knowledge of the real world, it's not just what is written. The fallen one knows the father plan, he's far more intelligent with the knowledge and knows how to use our weaknesses against us, we all need to be on our guard, forever watchful.
@@peterthompson6651 On your first paragraph. Read Daniel 12:7-12, Isaiah 2:2-4; Acts 15:14-18 and Acts 6-7, Stephens account. These Scriptures were written for a reason. ALL The Bible was written so "the men of God may be FULLY equipped for every good work" --(read) 2 Timothy 3:16, 17. Jesus said "give to Caesar the things belonging to Caesar, but Gods things to God." The entire Christian Scriptures tells us to obey the laws of the land because is God who has placed them in their places. Gods word says his people will be "of the same mind, same heart, same spirit." God has always had a unified people under his name because he is a God of order. Read The Christian Scriptures. In the first century AD there already some who were believing in The Messiah but were doing things their way and both Jesus and the apostles afterwards, warned true Christians to kick them out and remove them, to stay away from them. There were Jews, Greeks, Romans, and others from other nations, who were trying to mix in their former ideas and practices along with what Jesus taught and that was not at all acceptable to them: they wrote to be rid of such people if they didn't want to change. Second paragraph. I'll get back to you soon and finish my response, it's late and I have to go to sleep.
@@markuse3472 Jesus said, in Matthew 22:20-22, 20 And saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? 21 They say unto him Caesar's Then saith he unto them, Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar; and unto God the things that are God's. 22 when they had heard these words, they marvelled, and left him, and went their way. You misunderstand what those scriptures are telling you, if you were to take a look at an etymology dictionary, you would have a greater understanding of those words, like "image and superscription". Image (n.) C. 1200, "piece of statuary, an artificial representation that looks like a person or thing," from Old French image "image, likeness; figure, drawing, portrait, reflection; statue," earlier imagine (11c.), From Latin imagine (nominative imago) " copy, imitation, likeness, statue, picture," Person (n.) Directly from Latin persona "human being, person, personage; a part in a drama assumed character," originally "a mask, a false face," such as those of wood or clay wore by actors in later Roman theatre. Then you go on to say obey the "law of the land," in the book of Genesis 1:9, it tells us who created that land, and in Exodus 20 it tells us who's laws to follow, and in Acts 10:34 it tells us God as no respect for people who take from Caesar, and play both sides, and in Matthew 22:20-22, it tells us to Render to Caesar what is Caesar. Superscription (n.) Late 14c., From Latin superscription (nominative superscription) "a writing above," You have to understand what the words you're reading mean by their definitions, you have to all-round knowledge of the language, scriptures, law your using, most people don't realise they can be misinterpreted. Do you know no language is written in capitalise lettering, whether it's uppercase or lowercase or a mixture of both, no language? What manual style of English are you using for your grammar? For instance, it tells those who take a look at the Chicago manual style of English, it's the language of the illiterate because the only other people who use it are either mute or deaf, it's called ASL (American sign language) That is how they communicate with each other. If you gave someone illiterate a written message, to the direction to go somewhere, they wouldn't understand, now if you used "sign," using arrows, picture, they are more likely to get to that destination. If you want to be in the book of life, stop serving Caesar, and give yourself to the Lord God the creator, and stop being numbered by Caesar, eventually, this knowledge will be lost as written in Amos 8:11-13 11 behold the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord. 12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it. 13 In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for thirst.
My aunt became one back in the 50's, we loved her but dreaded her coming to family gatherings, where she would start into it. I loved my cousins, but it seemed like something was wrong with them. It became only funerals and weddings they came to in later years, she passed a few years ago, now mom is gone, and several of them are now former JW's. Thanks for the video Mike.
@@jimjuri6490 I would say Jesus is not confusing at all. The Unbelief of the Jews … John 8:58 ► (Aramaic Bible in Plain English) Yeshua said to them: “Timeless truth I speak to you: Before Abraham would exist, I AM THE LIVING GOD. "John 10:29My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are one.” 31At this, the Jews again picked up stones to stone Him.…32But Jesus responded, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone Me?” …33“We are not stoning You for any good work,” said the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God.”…
An old preacher I knew was prepared for the JW's. When they came to the door he would get out a document, read it to them, and ask if they believed what it said. They always said "absolutely not." Then he would tell them it was their older material. I never got a copy of it but it may have had something about the deity of Christ. Apparently, their false doctrine has changed over the years and they worked the inconsistencies out of it.
@lary Snw - LOL! lary, your post above - like all the rest of them - is pure and simple falsehood. The JWs have a false, unbiblical Christ and a false unbiblical way of salvation and multiple other falsehoods. You've been openly challenged on this board to defend your statements and beliefs, and the ONLY response is that you run away EVERY SINGLE TIME.
The path of the righteous is getting brighter and brighter Proverbs 4:18. Even the 12 disciples had wrong expectation of what was going to happen,at first, LUKE 19:11; 24:21
@Phil Blohm Sr. What is the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. The “church” adopted pagan beliefs, started celebrating pagan holidays, created an hierarchy in the “church”, got involved in politics, and sought power to control people for centuries. All of that is contrary to what Jesus taught would identify his people. Even “Christians” who are not Catholic still mostly follow the pagan doctrines adopted by the “church” like the trinity. Most of them still celebrate pagan holidays and try to claim they’re Christian holidays. They’ll have Easter Sunday but what is the origin of Easter? They celebrate Christmas, but what is the origin of Christmas? They get involved in politics and go to war, even with countries that have people of the same religion. Ask yourself honestly if any of that behavior reflects the “fine fruit” that Jesus said would identify his people. John 13:35 says Jesus disciples would be known by the love they have for one another. Matthew 7:15-20 shows you will recognize people by the fruits they produce. Were the crusades “fine fruits”, or a quest for power? Is supporting worldly governments and sending your parishioners to the military “fine fruits”? Is accepting unmarried fornicators into your church so you can get the membership fees “fine fruits”. John 17:14-16; John 15:19; and John 18:36 shows Jesus Kingdom and his people are “no part of this world”. What Christian religion today does not get involved in politics or support their people joining the military? What group of Christians today does not celebrate holidays that are widely accepted by the rest of the “world” but have known pagan or political origins? What group of people today produce “fine fruits” with a worldwide brotherhood that demonstrates genuine love? There is only one, Jehovah’s Witnesses. What religion today continues to examine the Bible and adjust to what is learned instead of sticking to false teachings which were developed by the Catholic Church, influenced by Greek philosophies and pagan beliefs and forced on people through much controversy by political decree? Only Jehovah’s Witnesses. Examine the Bible for yourself. Do the research in legitimate sources like encyclopedias, not blogs or the internet, and think for yourself instead of joining the masses, adopting what is popular or widely accepted.
Having trouble finding the interlinear on the JW library app. Just had a couple come to my door and I would like to better prepared next time, ( 2 Timothy 2:15) Able to give an account in and out of season. Thank you. Does anyone have a link for the physical copy as well.❤
Hi. Mark/StretchMn is a JW and that's the reason for his post. I would recommend that you go to places such as the Christian Apologetics and Resource (or Research) Society and look over the articles there.
@@StretchMn "If you want to handle the truth aright, don't believe Winger or the trinity or pagan celebrations." Do believe Winger, the trinity, and Christian celebrations.
So glad to hear this. Sat next to a JW on a plane for hours as i was flying to check out a seminary. Interesting conversation and definitely needed to explore their beliefs more. This helps mike! Thanks for helping! Blessings!
My sister became a JW in her mid twenties. She craved the sense of "community" and belonging which they surely provided. HOWEVER, this community was/is largely confined to their JW network alone. At my nieces (sister's daughter's) high school graduation, my sister invited me to a celebration gathering-comprised almost exclusively of their JW friends. When it was "found out" that I was a family member and NOT a JW, the room suddenly fell silent. Of course, I didn't ask them why but I knew...
...am not JW. I don't believe in most of their doctrines. However, they are everything but one thing: they are very loving people. I have been to vert racist countries but the most loving community will always be the JW community. They are nice people. BUT for their doctrines, which I don't agree with
I am sorry my name is Josephine it's me who commented not Joseph ,Joseph is my son and my you tube it's under his name I am one of Jehovah's witnesses let the Almighty God be the judge 🙏🙏
I was raised a JW by my father but wanted no parts of religion or their beliefs. That being said they are some of the nicest people on this planet. Always respectful and kind. I have been to numerous parties/events with a majority being JWs and even though they know I don’t agree they have always been respectful of my beliefs and never once tried to conform me or treat me any different
I was a JW for 24 years of my 29 year life. You destroyed my entire (previous) belief so strongly I feel rough even though I don't believe it anymore. A knife through butter comes to mind. Out of the many, many good points you made, the one that sticks to me is when you mentioned how so much of their belief actually is based in devotion to the leadership and the '8 men' essentially. If you can break that, you have half a chance actually having an open conversation with a JW.
Very true. Consider the following statement that was written by the Watchtower: *”From time to time, there have arisen from among the ranks of Jehovah's people those, who, like the original Satan, have adopted an independent, faultfinding attitude...They say that it is sufficient to read the Bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home. But, strangely, through such 'Bible reading,' they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendom's clergy were teaching 100 years ago..."* The Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1981. So - according to this statement, if you only read the Bible, you will believe in things such as the Deity of Christ because that is exactly what the Watchtower is referring to here when it says "apostate doctrines." In other words, *if you read the Bible by itself you will not arrive at Watchtower doctrines.* This is an amazing admission by the JW masters. They are doing nothing less than flat out admitting that Jehovah's Witnesses do not get their teachings from the Bible, but from the JW masters in the Watchtower literature.
@@jamesritter5078 True JW do not only read the Bible, THEY ALSO STUDY IT!!! I don't know were you ripped this out of context, but there is no page or title. No one reads the Bible and doesn't need help understanding it Read:Acts8:30,31"Do you actually know what you are reading?"He said: "Really, how could I ever do so unless someone guided me?"
@@jerrychacon8814 LOL! Your posts have proven REPEATEDLY that you don't study the Bible - You only have eyes and ears for the dictations of your JW masters. As for Acts 8, it's easy to understand that: The man didn't know about Christ and so Philip told him. And the Christ that Philip told him about was the BIBLICAL Christ Philip personally knew and not the false, unbiblical Christ of the JWs. The quote says what it says, and you can't do anything about it: The JW masters have _admitted in writing_ that *a person will not arrive at JW beliefs by reading the Scriptures - They will arrive at Christian beliefs.* Regarding Philip and Christ - Here is John 14:8-9: 8 Philip said to him: “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9 Jesus said to him: “Even after I have been with you men for such a long time, Philip, have you not come to know me? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How is it you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Question: Who is "the Father"? What/Who is being referred to by that phrase? Obvious Answer: God Himself. Considering the context of who and what Philip is - a Jew - There is no other honest way to understand the phrase in Philip's request. This is not refutable. Jesus, knowing full well who and what Philip is and the only possible meaning to his request, straightforwardly tells Philip, "If you've seen Me, you've seen Him. If you've seen me, you've seen God Himself." There is no other honest way to take that answer. Jesus Christ openly declares that seeing Him = Seeing God Himself. He made the same open declaration in John 12:45. JWs say that Jesus is Michael the archangel. No, that doesn't work, and it doesn't work BIG TIME. Here's why that's true: Michael's name means "Who Is Like God?" Obvious answer: NO ONE. There is NO way that Michael would have made the claim for himself that Jesus makes in verse 9. He would have been... a) going directly against the meaning of his own name, and b) committing blasphemy. Add to this the fact that there is no verse in the Bible that states that Jesus is really Michael. Add to this the fact that Michael would NEVER receive for himself the declaration of Thomas in John 20:28. And there are _plenty_ of other Scriptures that show and prove the Deity of Christ. Thanks for bringing up Philip, Jerry. You yourself have helped prove that JWs don't really study the Bible. If they _did_ they would very, very easily see what it says.
@@jamesritter5078Jesus is not Jehovah. Jesus always, always taught by illustration Matthew 13:34 Mark 4:34'with out an illustration he would not speak to them' an illustration is a symbolic, metaphorical use of teaching were you have to find the meaning, dig for it search. You read but you will not know the true meaning or the sacred secrets. You don't understand.
@@jerrychacon8814 LOL! There is NOTHING AT ALL that's "illustration" or "symbolic" or "metaphysical" in the open, clear declarations of Christ in John 14:8-9 and 12:24 or _numerous_ other Scriptures. In order for you to say that's what's happening, you have to first have that idea as an already preconceived conclusion that you intentionally read into the text in order to dishonestly force/pervert the text to your already preconceived conclusion. That is simply honest. But is DOES show very well just how JWs "study" the Bible. Thanks for showing that so openly. Oh, and nice TOTAL AVOIDANCE of the Scriptures in my previous post. It was NOT unexpected.
One of my proudest moments as a Christian was inviting JWs into my home. We talked about their theology for quite some time. After about an hour, they had to go. I literally outtalked a pair of JWs.
You are just as wrong as they are 😂. A god that does not manifest in reality is indistinguishable from a god that does not exist. Until God reveals himself or there is clear and obvious physical evidence presented, there is no good reason to believe in him.
@@tobias4411 God did manifest in reality. He has made himself known. There is clear physical evidence presented. You just choose not to accept it or believe it.
@@brushylake4606 A contradiction already. If there were irrefutable proof, or clear physical evidence it wouldn't be a religious faith. Faith doesn't require evidence; it involves believing without it. If there were irrefutable proof that Christianity was correct and God was real, everyone would be a Christian. In that case, Christians wouldn't have faith because it would simply be a fact. There is no evidence, and you know it, because you have faith. If you claim there is, show it to me.
Hi Mike and everyone! God bless you so much Mike for these videos. I can see your effort you put in them with passion and from your heart. Honestly, you are helping me learn about JW's so much and I need this because my next door neighbour of nearly 2 years are close friends of mine for just over 1 year now and it's been really tough for me during our discussions on the Bible together to prove to her the right way is Jesus and to explain the Trinity to her. I realised that I can't continue discussing further with her until I properly study the Bible more myself and get a better understanding of how to preach to JW's. It's so sad and it really upsets me how they have such a veil on their eye's and how they think they are the chosen children of God :( Anyway, I pray and believe Jesus Christ will unveil their eyes soon, so thank you for your videos and I thank God for you as your such a blessing. GBU!
Use their own Bible. Isaiah 9:6 New World Translation (JW bible) For a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us; And the rulership will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, *Mighty God, Eternal Father,* Prince of Peace. (the very next chapter speaking of God) Isaiah 10:21 Only a remnant will return,The remnant of Jacob, to the *Mighty God.* God in Mighty God used for Jesus in Isaiah 9:6 is the same as God for Mighty God in Isaiah 10:21 (Hebrew el) Luke 8:39 NWT (JW bible) “Go back home, and keep on relating what God did for you.” So he went away, proclaiming throughout the whole city what Jesus had done for him. "Now the Lord ("Jehovah" in JW's bible) is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17 Do let up. Keep asking them how many God's are there? Is Jesus a false God? Don't let them change the subject. The bible calls Jesus a "Mighty God", their own Bible. Either Jesus is God or a false God. It works out poorly for them either way.
@@wylolister3218 Again, 1 Cor. 8:5,6 says there are many called gods, but actually to us one God, and it is the Father. So while many are called gods, there is one we worship. Like Jesus himself told us at Mt. 4:10 and Jo. 17:3. Did Jesus lie? If course not! God, lord, father, son, shepherd, Savior, king, etc are titles, and apply to many. None of that makes them all God. Instead of using man-made philosophies, use the scriptures. Jesus never once called himself the God, but he did call Jehovah the only true God. And Jehovah called himself the only God, many times.
@@wylolister3218 Luke 8:39 Your understanding of this Scripture is narrow minded. Here there are two different points of view. First, Jesus gives credit to the one who gave Jesus the authority to expel demons so Jesus gave credit to the Father. The formerly demon possessed man related what he experienced, that Jesus expelled the demons, he is not calling Jesus God. 2 Cor, 3:17 Why did you leave out the second occurrence of "Jehovah" and change it to Lord? So you can try to prove something that isn't there? You want it to appear that Jesus is Jehovah, which he isn't, so you prove nothing.
@@StretchMn Jesus never once used the name "jehovah". Even JWs call "jehovah" a "misspelled & mispronounced" name for God, they even produced literature calling it a "blunder". "Yahweh . .. is admittedly superior to Jehovah. *'The wrong spelling Jehovah* occurs since about 1100' and then it offers its arguments in favor of Yahweh as the correct and original pronunciation." - Let Your Name Be Sanctified, Jehovah's Witnesses, p 16-20 (JW literature) (JW literature) AID TO BIBLE UNDERSTANDING 1971 Watchtower and Bible Tract Society p884-885 - literature elaborates as to its Catholic origin in 1270: By combining the vowel signs of 'Adho.nay and 'Elo.him' with the four consonants of the Tetragrammaton the pronunciations Yeho.wah' and Yehowih' were formed. The first of these provided the basis for the Latinized form "Jehova(h)." The first recorded use of this form dates from the thirteenth century C.E. Raymundus Martini, a Spanish monk of the Dominican Order, used it in his book Pugeo Fidei of the year 1270. *Hebrew scholars generally favor "Yahweh" as the most likely pronunciation.* "jehovah" = misspelled, mispronounced name for God! A false name. The only way to get rid of a false name for God is to quit using it. They published a "worldy" Bible that says the name Jehovah was a "blunder." See JWs own Byington Bible in Living English, published by WBTS (1971ish), page 7, on your WT Library CD (this is in the intro so is conveniently been left off the JW dot Org website). (thanks Lee) *"As to the Old Testament name of God, certainly the spelling and pronunciation "Jehovah" were originally a blunder."* God wants his name to be known as a "blunder'? Seriously? JW produced literature calls it wrong, misspelled, mispronounced and a blunder, seriously a "blunder"!!!
Mike is a solid dude. Awesome video and cool to see God’s work in you. Also think it’s awesome defending JW as people when they’re mistreated at peoples’ doors. Keep up the good work brother.
Mike if you could answer it’d be great:) why do you not see Calvinism as a primary issue. I came out of Calvinism after 17 years two years ago and am having such a hard time not seeing it as a primary issue, but my pastors snd friends see it as secondary....I am at a loss and do not want to be divisive, but I cannot reconcile how me thinking “anyone can be saved” vs. “no, only a select few can be” is secondary!!! So much more I could share, but I’ll stop there. Thank you!
I think it’s because, despite soteriological differences, Calvinists agree that all and any who believe will be saved by grace alone, through faith alone, in Jesus Christ alone. Edit: Sorry that I’m not Mike, but hopefully this answer helps.
Mike Winger You mentioned how slow the Jehovah's Witnesses walk going from door to door and found it rather amusing. Unfortunately when Jesus sent out the 70 disciples there is no record of what speed they were walking between houses. Probably it would be best to compare the speed of Jehovah's Witnesses preaching door to door with other denominations doing something similar. Well, that didn't take long, there are no denominations preaching door to door to any comparative degree, which is quite concerning considering what Jesus said at Matt 24:14 "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come." Who then is preaching this good news of the kingdom worldwide and more importantly are they doing this at a fairly fast pace? As a former Catholic I know they do not generally preach from door to door. Surely the Evangelical church members would be preaching door to door considering their name means "Good News" (Gospel)? Apparently not. Same with any other denomination that I am aware of and if they do are they preaching the good news of Gods kingdom? Are you Mike? You said that your pace when giving out leaflets door to door is about 20 times quicker than the the speed of the Jehovah's Witnesses. If they adopted that pace they would be at your door every week. Jesus said there would be a great preaching work to be done on this planet, that is a prophecy by our Lord. If there is another group out there doing this then they are doing it much slower than the Jehovah's Witnesses are as they have not reached my house yet.
Matt 24:14 was fulfilled in the first century. All JWs do is recruit. Same as Mormons. Think of all the old light JWs have spread throughout the world. Old light is false teachings. It's not old truth. It's false. And it's insane. That's why the governing body conceals the older publications from the cultists. All JWs have accomplished is spreading false teachings more than anyone else on the planet. Not something to be proud of. A small deadly example of jw false teachings is when then banned organ transplants for a decade. How many died for that false teaching? Disgusting child abuse hiding, deadly cult. Period.
@@jamesritter5078 You said "unbiblical way of salvation." You mean like how JW believe repentance is necessary for salvation? Do you believe that is "unbiblical"?
Are you serious? If so you honestly don't need a video on it, just having a conversation with you and a solid bible, I would love to talk to you about it so you can see the full truth of the word of God
Most of my family are JW and they all live good life’s with there families none of them are on drugs none of them are in prison because they follow the true god…
@@JesusChristSaves. I think you misunderstood the comment. Nevertheless, if all you have is the Bible, you do not have the full truth of the word of God.
My best friend/ my brother of 20 years is a JW. We get along great but we just never talk about his belief and I always hid when I celebrate a birthday or anything. I feel horrible because he is one of the most honest people I have ever met. But the theology I just doesn’t make sense
@@TroyUcf the pain is real. By worldly accounts, my friend is a total saint, and a good little JW. He’s a wonderful person. Thankfully, he’s always enjoyed talking about the Bible with me. We’ve gotten to the point where he knows I consider him part of a heretical cult, and that I am trying to convert him, but he understands that I’m coming from a heart of love. Additionally, he kind of figured out that I liked him last year. Now we’re very much in love, but we can’t marry because we’ll be unevenly yolked. So, I kind of have a double incentive for reaching him, but regardless, he is still my best friend and I’m worried about his eternal destination.
@@TroyUcf you have to look at it as a big picture. Also, he sounds like a nice guy. I try to be that way to. Honest and honorable. Just thinking about Jehovah witnesses is that they don’t hurt anyone. Just live your life the way you want to live it no one’s forcing you to be in the religion or what not.
@@Jestloo I mean most of us are in Cults by definition. The question should be what cult are you in? For example, if you follow a streamer or you’re in a group. Like the LTBTQ, those guys can be considered as a cult by definition. So yea. About everyone by definition is a cult nowadays.
@@rob_7775 JW's do hurt people when they shun their own family members or restrict their children from pursing their own career or passion. They also hurt people when they utilize internal beliefs that may restrict medical care. They also have a US vs THEM mentality focusing their ideas that anyone not in the organization will be destroyed by God. That doesn't seem very "good Samaritan".
I was raised JW & honestly couldn’t wait to get out as I was promised I wouldn’t have to go anymore once I turned 18. There were so many questions as a kid I never got answers too. It was confusing for me. I never heard 90% of the information in this video. The only thing that always bothered me was limiting association with anybody outside of the JW organization. Yet the kindest sweetest people I’ve ever met were not in the JW.
@sierrawilliams5982 Well, makes sense, since you said you couldn't wait to leave once you turned 18. Right? As, "a kid," What questions could you have and be confused about?
Thank you for this. It just popped up today in my random YT home feed. A couple days ago someone asked me about JW, I responded, but no where near the summary you have provided and have forwarded this to that person. For myself, if JW got the Yod-Hey-Vav-Hey wrong, it is down hill from there. Bless YHWH and YHWH bless you.
@John carlen Jehovah's Witnesses were not the ones who translated the Tetragrammaton to English. Since it was already translated to English as Jehovah, they did use it in their English translation of the Bible. That being said, what do you know about translation to make such a statement or have such a stand? Also, pretty much everything in this video is false which I and others have proven with many scriptures in multiple threads.
@@watchman8644 the NWT is the worse translation of the Bible since the NIV. Do the homework. John 8:58 - "I have been" The Greek of this text is abundantly clear: ... πρὶν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι ἐγὼ εἰμί. = before Abraham became, "I Am". The tense of the last two words is simple present tense and CANNOT be translated (as per NWT) "I have been", which is a version of the past tense. It is simply bad translation. As someone with a one year study of Greek/Latin/Italian, yes, this is just awful. So corrupt and adjusted for motives of men. in the end times there would be doctrines of devil's and many would be deceived God bless you!
We knew a JW who told us about the 144000 and said he knew he was not one of the 144000 but will stay behind on earth to teach the lost like we were. We did not get into an argument and shortly after that episode the offer was made to come and teach us the truth and without rancour on our side we simply said "no thank you, we know the truth" and ended the friendship.
@Tasha Joykin Correct, Jesus is our mediator. 1 Timothy 2:5 tells us “There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Jesus Christ.” Jesus is the way to get to know his God and Father, Jehovah.
@@watchman8644 doesn't the organization teach that Jesus is only mediator for the 144,000? That seems odd because in the Bible it says .... 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, it says between God and men (mankind) there doesn't seem be any restriction in that verse. In context before that we see "who desires *all men* to be saved" and after we read "who gave Himself a ransom for *all* " Jesus is mediator for ALL men (mankind) who are saved
@Seth Vernon Correct, Jesus is the mediator between God and all of mankind. I think where you’re getting confused on JW beliefs is that the new covenant Jesus made is with the apostles (Luke 22:20; 1 Corinthians 11:25; Hebrews 12:24) was for for those anointed to be part of Spiritual Israel. Revelation 7:3-8 shows those would total 144,000 people. Revelation 7:9-10 shows another group, outside of those anointed to heaven. What is their hope, if not to go to heaven? Psalms 37:11&29 tells us that for the majority, our future is to live forever on the earth, just as God originally purposed.
Seriously, Pastor Mike… WELL DONE. You absolutely nailed everything. I was raised JW, and I’m really impressed. Also, this was handled with love. I wish I could get my mom to watch your “pagan channel”. 😂 🤦🏻♀️
Psalms 83:18 Exodus 3:15 Jehovah is God's Glorious, Majestic name for eternity. The Almighty Father of Jesus. John 1: 14, 18 1 Peter 1:3 Colossians 1:3 John 6:57,58 Matthew 6:9,10 Matthew 17: 17 John 17:3 Revelation 3:12 Jesus is our Lord. Our Head and Leader as Christians 1 Corinthians 3:23 and 11:3
Hi! I only want to tell you about an incident that happened one night at my job as an RN. (but the text ended up way long!) One of my patients that night needed to have a Foley catheter placed, for whatever reason. I think it was because she couldn't pee on her own due to a UTI. In any case, she refused to allow me to insert one. In an hour or so, she was complaining that her discomfort was worsening. We weren't swamped that night so I went to her & we had a fairly long discussion. She told me that she was a JW & that placing a catheter up inside her BLADDER would keep her from entering Paradise, forever! I explained 9 ways 'til Sunday WHY the doctor ordered it & why it was necessary for her health & comfort, & that a Foley catheter has NOTHING to do with sexual behavior!! There's nothing dirty about it! Plus I had the MWS book Friends Are Friends..., essentially a topical Bible. I went through passage after passage from the aspect of several topics which could pertain to her situation. (I used that book at work so much that it began to fall apart! It was the perfect size to fit in a pocket of my scrub tops!) It took several hours for her to be in sufficient pain for her to finally agree, & to accept that placement of a medical device would NOT make her ineligible for Paradise! She felt such immediate relief! I was so thankful the Lord had used me & my little book to help this sweet little old lady! Little did I know that a few MORE hours later, near the end of that 12-hr shift, she was crying her eyes out, "because now I'll never be allowed into Paradise!!" Such a sad, but true, story! That was over 20 yrs ago, & my memory isn't so great anymore, but 75% or more of the detailed memory of that story is still as fresh as if it happened THIS MORNING! I don't understand HOW or WHY any "religious higher-up" would not only allow a member to deny anything to lessen pain & improve health, but essentially ORDER them to refuse that help! I realize that sometimes God allows us to go through hard times, but He doesn't say, "don't use those doctors & nurses whom *I* have called for just such a purpose! Don't use any of the "miraculous" treatments or devices that *I* led these professionals to find or invent! Just go ahead & hurt! Let it go untreated! Either way, you're gonna die one day anyway!" It reminds me of the guy whose boat is sinking & he can't swim, so he prays "God, save me!". In time a fisherman in a rowboat stops to rescue him, "no thanks, I'm waiting for God". Then a sporty cruiser stops, "no thanks..." lastly a big fancy yacht stops, but gets the same "no thanks..." the 1st two got. The man goes down for the last time & he comes to at the foot of the Throne & yells at God, "WHY didn't You save me? I prayed & had faith that YOU would save me! But You didn't!! WHY?? That would've been a great ending to my testimony!" God replied, "who do you think sent the rowboat, the cruiser, & the yacht?" JW's, & a few other denominations i know of & some I've worked with, sound an awful lot like this ungrateful man! Similarly a SDA new grad who said, "IDKY Y'all keep going on about "getting saved"! Jesus died for everyone, so everyone is saved!" You know, I may not understand EVERYTHING the Bible tells me, but I don't skip it, or worse change it, just b/c I don't understand! That's not a publishers-problem or a God-problem! That's a ME problem! And I need to "be a Berean", keep at it, read it, praying for wisdom, until I DO understand, or until God says I don't NEED to understand it, yet! BTW, if it matters, I am somewhere between S. Baptist & Independent Baptist. I knew nothing but SBC as a child & teen, before the organization became politicized! I live in the Buckle of the Bible Belt,
@@nathandelong7069 salvation comes from Christ’s sacrifice on the cross. However we must earn the honour to have those merits applied to us. This is done by following God’s law which Christ summarized: Love the Lord thy God with thy whole mind, body and soul and love they neighbour as thy self. We can believe in Christ all we want but unless we do God’s will as well in our day to day we will not merit heaven. If you believe and love Christ truly though the actions will follow almost on their own but you must still live a Christian life and we should always seek to me more Christ-like in our thoughts, words and actions.
@@brianp6859 Thanks for clarifying! I share the belief that good works should follow and be a sign of salvation, but good works alone won’t get you to heaven.
Faded JWs here. Their focus is Governing Body which is no Biblical and Jesus is pushed out. They mention Jesus but almost with whisper rather than using Jesus' name aloud.
@@khill4053 Governing Body got this idea that they are the ones God chose to communicate with people not Jesus as Bible clearly states in 1.Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.
@@jimmmmy55 I am aware of that. Think how every cult or sect print their own Bibles for the purpose of changing things in the Bible to fit their teachings.
Jesus came to Earth to teach us about God, and what he said was documented in the Bible, and the Governing Body reads the Bible, which is what Jesus said, so that way, they *are* listening to Jesus.
Mike, I have so enjoyed your video. I have been a Baptist since I was a week old. (I'm now 66). Finding out about other " religions" is so helpful. I want to know what others believe you can't witness to them if you don't know what they actually believe. Thanks
Throughout the entire Bible, God has always had chosen individuals to guide the rest of the body (ancient Israel and first-second century AD Christians). Among the those taking the lead, there were also others with privileges but not elders or overseers. It's all in Gods Word. God has always had a "governing body." It's all very obvious and simple, just read the Christian Scriptures carefully. What these 'leaders' said, went, or else false Christians were dismissed from the congregation, and from Israel. It has always been like that because God is holy and doesn't allow for disunity and self to be part of his Earthly kingdom. It's all in Gods Word. Jehovah God is eternal, he was not created. So, everything that was created (clearly that leaves God out) came through Jesus. Jesus was the foreman, the General manager, etc. It stuns me that you people can't see or understand this very simple and obvious reasoning backed up by Gods word. "they changed the Bible..."? Excuse yourselves, but every Bible out there was made erroneously. What JWs did is put Gods name, Jehovah, back into it correctly and properly. The rest of the small but important changes were done because they came to find more and more correct information as the decades went by, "The Dead Sea Scrolls" is one fine example, where Gods name is found some seven thousand times, all in praise worthy ways. Punctuation and some adverbs and conjunctions were not used in ancient Hebrew: they properly corrected those inconveniences. Matthew 28:19, 20 says "Go...make disciples of peoples of ALL the nations..." and Matthew 24:14 says "this good news of the kingdom WILL be preached in ALL the inhabited Earth, for a witness to ALL the nations..." That means that because Gods people have always been unified, 'of same mind, of same heart, of same spirit,' the good news must mean everyone in Gods Earthly organization must believe the same message. You guys are funny how you refuse these very obvious truths. It's "universally known by scholars this [The New world Translation] is not a good translation." The world surely is in the grip of Satans hands. Jesus and his followers were called a cult back then, they were laughed at, they were mocked, by the world of common people and religious people. The same back then, the same today in "the last days." Daniel 12:7-10 describes you guys, that you wont understand because you choose not to, and that in the last days Gods people will return. Isaiah 2:2-4 backs that up, that pure worship would return in the last days. Acts 15:14-18 backs that it up, too. And many, many more Scriptures. Gods name will be in the name of his people. You guys choose to ignore these very basic but life-saving truths. Jesus did die for ever as a human being: he did "the will of God" and "accomplished" what he was sent to do. Jesus will now and eternally be a spirit being, as he was before he came to Earth. It's in Gods word. It is true that they have made some errors, but they FIX their errors, unlike every, and that means all other religions, who don't fix their many errors. JWs make progress, just as Israel and first century AD Christians were. God does have a chosen people, and Jews deny Jesus so it can not possibly be them. The Scriptures I posted above identifies JWs as Gods chosen people. You can bash and trash them, but it makes them very, very happy because they do it all for God and Jesus. their lives are secondary. It is all Scriptural. "The Great Tribulation" is without fail coming. "I am Jehovah, and I am a God exacting exclusive devotion" states God. First and second century Christians were being mocked, harassed, beaten, imprisoned, persecuted, tortured and murdered, for "abstaining from blood," for abstaining from having idols of ANY sort, for abstaining from all holidays and such festivities, and for peaching and teaching the good news of Gods kingdom relentlessly. Acts 6:-7 was written for a reason (the case of Stephen), as are all Scriptures (2 Timothy 3:16, 17). They didn't pray to saints. They used Gods name. They were, as this dude in the video belittles JWs for doing today, an isolated, "insulated" people, Gods chosen people. When this system ends, JWs will move on into the paradise Earth God has promised, and will live as perfect beings on it for ever and ever. Those who ignored Jehovah and his message, will unfortunately pass away for ever and be forever forgotten. It's all in Gods word. You can nit pick JWs, but the truth, as I just proved the video a lie or deceptive, is with JWs. They are Gods people.
@@markuse3472 This is what Jehovah's witnesses did Paul said believe not ANY OTHER GOSPEL Galatians 1:8-9 King James Version 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
@@markuse3472 Isaiah 9:6 King James Version 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Jesus was and is God in the flesh it's obvious if you don't go to the corrupted watchtower organization
@@markuse3472 Jesus is also not ruling from the watchtower Matthew 24:26 King James Version 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
@@jamiebatchelor2857 Jesus is not God in the flesh, that is a lie. Your KJV has many wrong renderings and this is one. Isaiah 9:6 The Bible also refers to the Son of God by the title “God.” At Isaiah 9:6 he is called “Mighty God.” But in the Bible, angels, humans, false gods, and Satan are also called “gods.” (Angels: Psalm 8:5) (Humans: Psalm 82:6) (Satan: 2 Corinthians 4:4.) In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word for “God,” ʼEl, simply means “Mighty One” or “Strong One.” The equivalent in the Greek Scriptures is the·osʹ. Moreover, the Hebrew term used at Isaiah 9:6 shows a DEFINITE DISTINCTION between the Son and God. There the SON IS CALLED "MIGHTY GOD” ʼEl Gib·bohrʹ, not “Almighty God.” That term in Hebrew is ʼEl Shad·daiʹ and APPLIES UNIQUELY TO JEHOVAH GOD. You can admit the JW's are right and you and your KJV are wrong anytime, but I doubt it.
If Jesus is the lamb, who gives him the scroll with his right hand the one on the throne? Revelation 5:7 At once the lamb came forward and took the scroll out of the RIGHT HAND of the One seated on the throne (JAH)
@@rightousliving The doctrine of the Trinity is 1 Being of God in 3 persons. Jesus being fully human and fully God does not break the laws of the trinity by taking the scroll from the Father. He is the perfect mediator being both God and man. Read your Bible please.
@@LightoverDarkMinistry dear brother in Christ, I know my bible relatively well having studied it for many years. But of course even I rely on the Holy Spirit and not my own understanding and still discover I’ve been wrong on things I believed for a long time to be true. I used to defend the Trinity teaching for many years but more and more had to realise I was dishonest, that like many pastors that I know, I just twisted scripture to make it say what I wanted it to say instead of adjusting my understanding accordingly. There is not one single scripture that is used to defend the Trinity doctrine which holds up at closer scrutiny. I’m surprised how Protestants so clearly distance themselves rightly from many Catholic practices but still embrace so many false doctrines for no other reason but that they have been taught for a very long time and rarely challenged (which is no surprise considering that those who challenged the doctrines of the church were called heretics and risked being banned, imprisonments, being tortured or to be burned at the stake).
@@rightousliving Why does God appear to Abraham as THREE men before the destruction of sodom and gamorrah? How can Jesus resurrect HIMSELF if He is not God? If He is God and man why does He still pray to the FATHER? Why does He talk about the FATHER, the SON and the HOLY GHOST? These are just a few examples but there are more in the Bible that reference the triune nature of God. Just because our finite human minds cannot fully grasp how 3 persons make one God with all parts being unique and distinct yet perfectly equal does not mean an Infinite God that exists in the highest dimension cannot contain these qualities.
I lost half my family because I left the jw religion I can tell you it took me years to untangle all the mind set and confusions I was brainwashed throughout my life, I never felt so free… I do not hate them I do not resent them if you would like to talk to me please do my heart breaks for you jw’s let the truth set you free….
That point about not letting them change the subject is so important. You cannot have a conversation with a JW in which they won't try to constantly change the subject. Every time you say, for example, "Well, the Greek word here that is translated firstborn means 'heir' and not necessarily the first person born." They will say, "Well, look over here where Jesus prays to Jehovah, how can He pray to Jehovah if He is Jehovah." So you explain that and they will say, "Well, over here...." They will do this for every objection you answer.
Any dictionary will help with the definition of FIRSTBORN. It is someone who is brought into existence FIRST in a line of siblings. There is no other meaning. Because Jesus is God Firstborn, meaning, God created him First, he gets to be the Heir. Col 1:16...all things were created FOR HIM. Heb 1:2..God appointed Jesus HEIR. Firstborn gets to BE the Heir. Firstborn doesn't mean Heir. Why would people who cannot accept this truth want to change the meaning of Firstborn. In order to fool whom would be the question?
@@jimjuri6490 You have posted falsehood in the above. Here's how and why that's true: The word "firstborn" as used in Col. 1:15 has to do with supremacy. The contextual theme of Colossians 1:15-19 is that of the Supremacy of Christ. "Firstborn" is a Hebrew term having to do with rank, primacy, and supremacy. Vs. 15 is saying that Christ is the Supreme One over all Creation. That makes Him God. There is a different word for "first created", and that is the word Paul would have used if he wanted to convey the idea that Christ is a creation. He DOESN'T. And here is something BIG: *Even the JW masters admit that "firstborn" has to do with supremacy.* “David, who was the youngest son of Jesses [sic], was called by Jehovah the “firstborn,” due to Jehovah’s elevation of David to the preeminent position in God’s chosen nation” (Aid to Bible Understanding, 1971, 584; emphasis added). Israel is called God's “firstborn” in Exodus 4:22, but everyone knows that Israel was not the first nation created. ADDED to this: In Revelation 1:5, Jesus is called “the firstborn of the dead,” even though He was not the first person to be resurrected chronologically. Of all ever raised, He is the preeminent One. Romans 8:29 refers to Him as the firstborn in relation to the church. In all the above cases, firstborn clearly means highest in rank, not first created.
@@jamesritter5078 : Please show me one example of FIRSTBORN not meaning first to be born or created INTO EXISTENCE. Living in ignorance when a dictionary can be check with the click of a mouse is not saying much for some.
@@jimjuri6490 I just did in my previous post. And *even the JW masters admit that the word "firstborn" has to do with supremacy.* Try actually _reading_ posts before you try to respond.
I'm genuinely trying to learn about the difference between Christianity and JW. You were awesome in teaching me and were so respectful to JW at the same time! Thank you so much❤️
@@StretchMn I've been talking to one, I work in insurance and she was just a lead but I wished her a happy early birthday in which lead to JW talk. I think it's great to hear both sides from many people so I'm still researching!
@Payton Jones That's good to hear. Research and searching are awesome. Just make sure to get the facts. Mike misleads and doesn't speak complete truth. BTW a Christian is anyone who believes in Jesus. So there are true and false Christians. Jesus said at Mt. 7:13-23 that there are only two roads. One leads to destruction and the majority are on it and the other leads to everlasting life and few are on it. We would know that true Christian faith by their fruits, or actions. A good tree produces fine fruit and a rotten tree produces worthless fruit. So look at each churches actions. For instance, do they condone and join in the killing of their own brothers in man's greedy wars? Do they and allow and participate in politics and violent protests? Do they condone and allow and participate in immorality and homosexuality? Do they infuse paganism into their worship and celebrations? Then they are not true Christians and Jesus will tell them he does not know them.
Jesus called his Father his God, JOHN 20:17 ...'I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.' showing Jehovah the Father is the center of worship. We pray through the Christ not to the Christ,he is the amen, our mediator.1Timothy 2:5
@@jerrychacon8814 these books were not written by jesus. These books were written by Romans who were the best at creating religions to control. You are following a 2 thousand year old propaganda programme in which the people who really knew christ were systematically killed. And false religions such as Christianity were created. You beleive Paul who hated christ, and then started to write the bible saying he had met an angel. This is part of the propaganda. Everything Christians have predicted has been wrong. Islam came and conquered Christian nations and many of them converted to Islam. The Muslims claimed Muhammad is the seal of prophets which in itself is a large statement to make. Abrahams religions were influenced by the far East. Literally you are following fantasy
My best friend is a new baby christian and she started leaning towards Mormonism... unfortunately. Me I don't know anything about it so I'm studying up on it so I could talk to her with the right study. I'm getting ready to listen to your 2 hour video about it next. Thanks and God bless 💜
I've heard the term "Baby Christians and my church teaches us in a manner where they eat steak and not milk, making the comparison identical. Once you accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior, baby and steak teachings don't apply. We are made clean and a new creation, I get the metaphor, but we all learn or interpret something different every time we read the word of God! So baby as opposed to Grandpa makes us all that different? Remain blessed, I just don't care for the term!
@@javiergalvan242 The fact that we have to face is that there is a reality called 'Baby Christians'. There is such a thing as an underdeveloped, immature Christian. 1st Corinthians 3: 1-9, Paul speaks to these people in verse 1 and he says: 'Brethren', he looks upon them as believers, brothers. This is the staggering thing about it, that he's not saying, as he said at the end of chapter 2, that these people are natural, they're not even saved, they're not living like Christians so they're not saved, that's not what he's saying! He says that they are babes in Christ, positionally they are in Christ, and he calls them brothers - they are real Christians yet they have never developed. I could go on and on... remember the Bible doesn't tell want us to understand in our own understanding but that of God only. When we start our own assumption meaning, we start steering it to make excuses for ourselves. May God bless you brother in Christ. Stay strong and blessed 💜
@@ToriLynn928 Well said. The fact that there are developmental stages in the Christian life is also borne out by John in his first epistle. He refers to 'children', 'young men', and 'fathers.'
I've only seen a few clips of this channel, most of them preaching things i don't agree with, but i gotta be fair and say that this was really well informed. Now, i'm no witness, but i do follow a lot of ex-jws, and what you say hits the nail. So good job spreading the right ibformation about the organization. Hopefully one day people won't be tricked by it anymore.
@@StretchMn Christians can know they are saved. Immediately. Once you accept Jesus in your heart, you are saved. That is why Christians have joy because they are not guessing or hoping. 1 John 5:13 says this: “I have written these things to you that you may know that you have eternal life, to you who believe into the name of the Son of God.” This verse shows us God doesn’t want us to be unsure about our salvation. We have something in writing-the Word of God-by which we can know we’re really saved. God wants us to be assured of our salvation by His written Word. John 3:16 is another verse that assures us of our salvation: “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that everyone who believes into Him would not perish, but would have eternal life.” This verse tells us that when we believe into Jesus Christ, we’re saved; we have eternal life and we will not perish. We’re saved when we believe in Him and receive Him as our Savior. This is God’s unchanging and reliable Word. Romans 8:16 speaks clearly concerning these two spirits: “The Spirit Himself witnesses with our spirit that we are children of God.” The Holy Spirit witnesses deep within us, in our spirit, that we are truly saved. Even if we doubt this and say, “I don’t think I’m a child of God,” the Spirit within us witnesses to confirm that we are. In 1 John 3:14, the apostle John says, “We know that we have passed out of death into life because we love the brothers.” This love in us for our brothers in the Lord is further evidence that we’re genuinely saved. Praise to Jesus, I am saved and who shall separate us from the love of Christ? (romans 8:35-39) no one shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
The mere use of the name “Jesus Christ” does not prove that one has genuine faith in it, faith of the kind that assures life everlasting. Jesus said in Matthew 7:21 Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of (OF WHO?) my Father who is in the heavens will.22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord,did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness! Joel 3:32 32 And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.
Thank you for this series. Would love to have a video on Judism because a friend of mine who is exploring it (and adamantly rejects Jesus) has shared with me how complex their theology is! Looking forward to that video coming up in the series.
Throughout the entire Bible, God has always had chosen individuals to guide the rest of the body (ancient Israel and first-second century AD Christians). Among the those taking the lead, there were also others with privileges but not elders or overseers. It's all in Gods Word. God has always had a "governing body." It's all very obvious and simple, just read the Christian Scriptures carefully. What these 'leaders' said, went, or else false Christians were dismissed from the congregation, and from Israel. It has always been like that because God is holy and doesn't allow for disunity and self to be part of his Earthly kingdom. It's all in Gods Word. Jehovah God is eternal, he was not created. So, everything that was created (clearly that leaves God out) came through Jesus. Jesus was the foreman, the General manager, etc. It stuns me that you people can't see or understand this very simple and obvious reasoning backed up by Gods word. "they changed the Bible..."? Excuse yourselves, but every Bible out there was made erroneously. What JWs did is put Gods name, Jehovah, back into it correctly and properly. The rest of the small but important changes were done because they came to find more and more correct information as the decades went by, "The Dead Sea Scrolls" is one fine example, where Gods name is found some seven thousand times, all in praise worthy ways. Punctuation and some adverbs and conjunctions were not used in ancient Hebrew: they properly corrected those inconveniences. Matthew 28:19, 20 says "Go...make disciples of peoples of ALL the nations..." and Matthew 24:14 says "this good news of the kingdom WILL be preached in ALL the inhabited Earth, for a witness to ALL the nations..." That means that because Gods people have always been unified, 'of same mind, of same heart, of same spirit,' the good news must mean everyone in Gods Earthly organization must believe the same message. You guys are funny how you refuse these very obvious truths. It's "universally known by scholars this [The New world Translation] is not a good translation." The world surely is in the grip of Satans hands. Jesus and his followers were called a cult back then, they were laughed at, they were mocked, by the world of common people and religious people. The same back then, the same today in "the last days." Daniel 12:7-10 describes you guys, that you wont understand because you choose not to, and that in the last days Gods people will return. Isaiah 2:2-4 backs that up, that pure worship would return in the last days. Acts 15:14-18 backs that it up, too. And many, many more Scriptures. Gods name will be in the name of his people. You guys choose to ignore these very basic but life-saving truths. Jesus did die for ever as a human being: he did "the will of God" and "accomplished" what he was sent to do. Jesus will now and eternally be a spirit being, as he was before he came to Earth. It's in Gods word. It is true that they have made some errors, but they FIX their errors, unlike every, and that means all other religions, who don't fix their many errors. JWs make progress, just as Israel and first century AD Christians were. God does have a chosen people, and Jews deny Jesus so it can not possibly be them. The Scriptures I posted above identifies JWs as Gods chosen people. You can bash and trash them, but it makes them very, very happy because they do it all for God and Jesus. their lives are secondary. It is all Scriptural. "The Great Tribulation" is without fail coming. "I am Jehovah, and I am a God exacting exclusive devotion" states God. First and second century Christians were being mocked, harassed, beaten, imprisoned, persecuted, tortured and murdered, for "abstaining from blood," for abstaining from having idols of ANY sort, for abstaining from all holidays and such festivities, and for peaching and teaching the good news of Gods kingdom relentlessly. Acts 6:-7 was written for a reason (the case of Stephen), as are all Scriptures (2 Timothy 3:16, 17). They didn't pray to saints. They used Gods name. They were, as this dude in the video belittles JWs for doing today, an isolated, "insulated" people, Gods chosen people. When this system ends, JWs will move on into the paradise Earth God has promised, and will live as perfect beings on it for ever and ever. Those who ignored Jehovah and his message, will unfortunately pass away for ever and be forever forgotten. It's all in Gods word. You can nit pick JWs, but the truth, as I just proved the video a lie or deceptive, is with JWs. They are Gods people.
Why would you cut & paste a comment irrelevant to the comment you're posting under? A wee tip, when you use phrases like "why don't you people" while you attempt to chastise anyone not in agreement with your beliefs, well the response will be to ignore you.
This is not the right context, when it comes to heresies and such Paul says to call it out, cast the people and "demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ" So in this verse you quoted , he's referring to actual useless chatter, not conversations about the deity of Christ that hinge on people's salvation and eternal destination. If you deny Jesus Christ is God you deny the nature of the blood that gives the blood the ability to justify your sins.
This comment below is in reference to your video entitled - "Jehovah's Witnesses: beliefs practices and ERRORS" from a few more years back. Hoping to get a hold of you Mike. Hello Mike, I only remember commenting to one other video on TH-cam. I think it was to compliment an amateur musician starting out. You've compelled me, by your loving approach and caring tone, to reach out regarding JW criticisms, (and yes, I did watch the entire vid... without melting). Already looking forward to calling you my Brother someday. In the spirit of [Acts 18:24-26] I'm hoping you will continue in your genuine search for truth. I'll assume we both would agree that humility is necessary to understand God's wisdom... which, of course, is most important. [Proverbs 4:7 & 1 Corinthians 1:19-24]. I trust that you are a man of your word, and I accept your challenge... Brother. Time stamp (41:14 --> 41:23) See you in Paradise! [Psalm 37:11&29, Matthew 5:5, Revelation21:1, Isaiah 35:5&6, Isaiah 45:18, Isaiah 25:8, Revelation 21:4]
@@misterauctor7353 I've asked so many people what LGBTQ stands for. So far no one has given me a straight answer. This comment is either out of context or I'm on the wrong You Tube Channel
Believers help nonbelievers understand they are a sinner in need of a Savior. God’s word works because of the Holy Spirit, not our imperfect way of explaining, plant seeds. Be confident in God's Word. 🕊 1 Peter 3:15 👑 1 Corinthians 15 🙏 1 John 1:8-10
Throughout the entire Bible, God has always had chosen individuals to guide the rest of the body (ancient Israel and first-second century AD Christians). Among the those taking the lead, there were also others with privileges but not elders or overseers. It's all in Gods Word. God has always had a "governing body." It's all very obvious and simple, just read the Christian Scriptures carefully. What these 'leaders' said, went, or else false Christians were dismissed from the congregation, and from Israel. It has always been like that because God is holy and doesn't allow for disunity and self to be part of his Earthly kingdom. It's all in Gods Word. Jehovah God is eternal, he was not created. So, everything that was created (clearly that leaves God out) came through Jesus. Jesus was the foreman, the General manager, etc. It stuns me that you people can't see or understand this very simple and obvious reasoning backed up by Gods word. "they changed the Bible..."? Excuse yourselves, but every Bible out there was made erroneously. What JWs did is put Gods name, Jehovah, back into it correctly and properly. The rest of the small but important changes were done because they came to find more and more correct information as the decades went by, "The Dead Sea Scrolls" is one fine example, where Gods name is found some seven thousand times, all in praise worthy ways. Punctuation and some adverbs and conjunctions were not used in ancient Hebrew: they properly corrected those inconveniences. Matthew 28:19, 20 says "Go...make disciples of peoples of ALL the nations..." and Matthew 24:14 says "this good news of the kingdom WILL be preached in ALL the inhabited Earth, for a witness to ALL the nations..." That means that because Gods people have always been unified, 'of same mind, of same heart, of same spirit,' the good news must mean everyone in Gods Earthly organization must believe the same message. You guys are funny how you refuse these very obvious truths. It's "universally known by scholars this [The New world Translation] is not a good translation." The world surely is in the grip of Satans hands. Jesus and his followers were called a cult back then, they were laughed at, they were mocked, by the world of common people and religious people. The same back then, the same today in "the last days." Daniel 12:7-10 describes you guys, that you wont understand because you choose not to, and that in the last days Gods people will return. Isaiah 2:2-4 backs that up, that pure worship would return in the last days. Acts 15:14-18 backs that it up, too. And many, many more Scriptures. Gods name will be in the name of his people. You guys choose to ignore these very basic but life-saving truths. Jesus did die for ever as a human being: he did "the will of God" and "accomplished" what he was sent to do. Jesus will now and eternally be a spirit being, as he was before he came to Earth. It's in Gods word. It is true that they have made some errors, but they FIX their errors, unlike every, and that means all other religions, who don't fix their many errors. JWs make progress, just as Israel and first century AD Christians were. God does have a chosen people, and Jews deny Jesus so it can not possibly be them. The Scriptures I posted above identifies JWs as Gods chosen people. You can bash and trash them, but it makes them very, very happy because they do it all for God and Jesus. their lives are secondary. It is all Scriptural. "The Great Tribulation" is without fail coming. "I am Jehovah, and I am a God exacting exclusive devotion" states God. First and second century Christians were being mocked, harassed, beaten, imprisoned, persecuted, tortured and murdered, for "abstaining from blood," for abstaining from having idols of ANY sort, for abstaining from all holidays and such festivities, and for peaching and teaching the good news of Gods kingdom relentlessly. Acts 6:-7 was written for a reason (the case of Stephen), as are all Scriptures (2 Timothy 3:16, 17). They didn't pray to saints. They used Gods name. They were, as this dude in the video belittles JWs for doing today, an isolated, "insulated" people, Gods chosen people. When this system ends, JWs will move on into the paradise Earth God has promised, and will live as perfect beings on it for ever and ever. Those who ignored Jehovah and his message, will unfortunately pass away for ever and be forever forgotten. It's all in Gods word. You can nit pick JWs, but the truth, as I just proved the video a lie or deceptive, is with JWs. They are Gods people.
I am so grateful that I decided to listen to this. I think it’s very important to know from the get-go that they do not trust you at all. Although I have had some very nice conversations with some JW‘s.
Many believed Jesus was michael the archangel.. John Calvin - Founder of Calvinism ( a Christian denomination) Ellen G White (seventh day Adventist) And many considered Christians/trinitarians.. just because it’s not a popular topic doesn’t mean that it’s a unique belief to us JWs… There is even a 2nd century manuscript that described Jesus as an Archangel.. he is even called or recognised as “the angel of the Lord” Origen -one of the Christian apologist- saw Christ as an Angel…
Angel means "messenger", anyone could be described as a messenger, Mike has done a video on it, that it may have been Jesus walking around pre-earthly ministry days because this "angel of the Lord", keeps using I statements like he is God and not the created angels. Like when he tells Haggai that he will bless her son and make him many nations too.
Please pray for me! I'm an ex Jehovah's witness and lost my faith in all religions after I left Jehovah's witnesses 12 years ago. I've been totally lost and have isolated myself for the last 12 years, I need your prayers to help me to restore my faith in Jesus and to find religious truth. I've always sought truth, please help me.
I'll definitely pray for you. I'll also recommend that you contact Mike's ministry directly. Would you be willing to share how you left (or escaped) from the JW cult?
“All who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.”2 Timothy 3:12,13
An evil man who tries to attain the power of God should suffer, but should we also not seek to be more like Jesus, or are we eternally damned with a sin that we can never make amends for? I lived a life as a Roman Catholic, made to feel guilty that Jesus was killed, and made to feel like a sheep in the flock. I also grew up on a farm and knew all too well what happens to the sheep. You get fleeced for a while and end up as mutton. Well, I choose not to believe that anymore. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 14:6, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." Both these verses are misunderstood.
Some will also suffer persecution for doing wrong. 1 Peter 3:17; 1 Peter 4:15. For example JWs rightly receive bad publicity when they fail to report incidents of pedophilia among them, to the authorities, resulting in perpetrators going on to abuse more children among JWs and outside their organization. It is a wicked thing to sacrifice the innocence and safety of children in order to avoid knowledge of a gross sinner among you becoming public.
I feel really bad. When I was a teenager I was one of those mean people to the JWs coming to my door. One day at my aunties house she grabbed me and tried to shove me under her kitchen table. I was asking why. The JWs are coming. I told her I'd get rid of them and make sure they didn't come back. I watched them coming down the sidewalk a threw the door open when they were halfway to the door. I scared the hell out of them. What I hadn't realized is there were 2 really young boys with an adult woman. They never bothered my aunt again. After that incident I quit trying to intimidate them. Instead I would shoot down anything they tried to tell me. I tried to convince them they were in a cult.
Remarkably Good” Translation A “Remarkably Good” Translation ACCORDING to one count, as many as 55 new English translations of the Christian Greek Scriptures were published between 1952 and 1990. Translators’ choices mean that no two read alike. In order to assess the reliability of the translators’ work, Jason BeDuhn, associate professor of religious studies at Northern Arizona University, in Flagstaff, Arizona, U.S.A., examined and compared for accuracy eight major translations, including the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, published by Jehovah’s Witnesses. The result? While critical of some of its translation choices, BeDuhn called the New World Translation a “remarkably good” translation, “better by far” and “consistently better” than some of the others considered. Overall, concluded BeDuhn, the New World Translation “is one of the most accurate English translations of the New Testament currently available” and “the most accurate of the translations compared.”-Truth in Translation: Accuracy and Bias in English Translations of the Greek Scriptures
@@patchooo84 That translation is not the one you currently use. And even the scholars quite you are using, said he saw zero reason for the insertion of "Jehovah" from the J texts. Do you agree with his stance on that as well? Have you actually read his book truth in translation?
@@vandalayindustries8036 Don't be disingenuous God"s name is in your Bible. I hope you are only faning dumb. Genesis 22 Jehovah Jireh “Jehovahjireh” appears only once in the entire Bible-in Genesis 22:14 (KJV). It means “God provides.” Genesis 22: 14 Psalms 83:18 The name of Good King Jehoshaphat means "God is Judge, Has Judged" Jehoram (meaning "Jehovah is exalted" in Biblical Hebrew) was the name of several individuals in the Tanakh. Jehoiachin means "May God establish" Jehioakim : God Avenges, God Stands up Jehoiadah : Yahweh knows From Hebrew Yəhōyādhāʿ “Yahweh knows Jehonadab: More to ask What is the meaning of Jehonadab? Jehovah is willing Jehonadab (Hebrew: יְהוֹנָדָב; meaning Jehovah is willing; Latin: Jonadab) was the son of Rechab. He is mentioned in 2 Kings 10:15-31. Jehoash: Yahweh has given Jehovah-shammah is a Christian transliteration of the Hebrew יְהוָה שָׁמָּה (Yahweh šāmmāh) meaning "Jehovah is there", the name given to the city in Ezekiel's vision in Ezekiel 48:35. Jehovah-nissi According to Exodus 17:13-16 in the Bible, Jehovah-nissi is the name given by Moses to the altar which he built to celebrate the defeat of the Amalekites at Rephidim Jehovah Rapha Jehovah-Rapha? God is known by many names in the Bible. Each name reveals a certain aspect of His character. Jehovah-Rapha is one such name found in the Old Testament and means “The God who heals” in Hebrew. Jehovah Shalom” is Hebrew for “the God of peace.” Now, the first appearance of the name Jehovah Shalom is in the Old Testament story of Gideon in Judges 6..
@@patchooo84 Whoosh! That is the sound of my point going over your head, as you are just copying and pasting something (you probably don't understand), that has made the internet rounds for years. Let's try this again. I don't care if you use Yahweh, Lord, Jehovah.....whatever. The scholar you have quoted, from "Truth in Translation (which I will now assume you did not read), took issue specifically with the insertion of God name due to the J texts. This is the spurious group of texts the NWT committee used to justify the insertion of the divine name in the Greek scriptures in almost all of the over 200 places it does it. He uses the same reasoning around bias and translation to arrive at that conclusion. Do you agree with one conclusion and reject the other? Might be worth asking yourself why. In the meantime, I would also try to get some original material rather that copying and pasting others previously written (and in some cases discredited), statements.
Truth Junkie - The above post by Mark/StretchMn is simply falsehoods. Here's how and why that's true: - I haven't "whined" at all in my posts. The only way to get to that idea is to have that idea/accusation in mind to begin with and then read that idea into my posts. Doing this is simply not honest or truthful. - It has already been shown that Heiser wasn't and hasn't actually been "proven" incorrect or wrong by anything that Mark writes. - It has also already been shown what the words "firstborn" and "begotten" mean. It has also been shown what Rev. 3:14 means, and how it directly agrees with other Scriptures. So, here again - All Mark is posting is _another_ VERY intentional and deliberate attempt to get far, far away from the subject of the multiple false beliefs and predictions of the JWs.
It wasn't having the theology refuted that got me out of being a JW, it was the feeling of having to earn your place in the congregation, all those hours in service, and the feeling that you could slip up and be labelled "bad association" so easily. It was exhausting. Then I read H M Sealey's Kingdom Rising series and I saw, in her fictious cult "the called and chosen" everything the JWs were, and I realised with massive relief, that that wasn't the way. This passage really spoke to me. "Life in the Called and Chosen was a never-ending uphill trudge of proving oneself better than everyone else, of being more holy and more righteous and more hard-working and more humble and thus bringing glory to the name of the church. Yet what she did one day counted for nothing the next, not unless it was something bad, and then it would haunt her forever. There was no way of storing up points, every day was a clean slate, and the possibility of displeasing the elders each time the sun rose was a constant reality. Maddie had seen people serve the Called and Chosen tirelessly for years, even decades, then to slip up just once, and lose their respect and their place in the congregation. And it was so easy to slip up. A wrong word, a wrong thought, wearing a skirt an inch too short, showing sympathy for a sinner, missing a meeting at the hall, questioning a doctrine, the list was endless. She had never had a break. Never simply stood outside and listened to the birds or watched the flowers. The world, she had believed, was evil, and the only safe place was in that miserable Fellowship Hall where the women watched for weaknesses in their brothers and sisters like hawks in pearls and sensible shoes."
@elsiesaunders4607. The problem would be trying to get them to read something like that. I'm happy that God used that to bring things into focus for you!
Mike, I spent 35 years of my life trapped inside the WL group. Have you ever done any videos on the WL group? Now the WL operation does have a track record of suing their critics, some of them even into bankruptcy so I totally get it if you would rather not talk about them openly. BTW: It was a Calvary Chapel pastor who helped me & my family to escape the WL group. Maybe you could interview Pastor Daryl? Thanks Mike!
Okay Mike, I present to you a challenge. I am a PIMO (physically in, mentally out) JW and I've lost my faith in God and the Bible especially because of the hypocrisy I've seen in this organization and especially since I had become an elder and saw the dirty secrets for myself. That led me to research the historicity and validity of the Bible itself and I heavily doubt its divine inspiration. I am disgusted with the violence that God ordered Israel to commit as far as pillaging cities and killing infants. I researched evolution and find it fascinating and see how the idea makes senses, but also have a hard time believing life itself came about by accident from nonliving matter (abiogenesis). I kind of perhaps think organic life was started by some sort of creator-ish entity (made of energy?) and some of evolution may be random and some of it guided like an engineer making small changes to his design over time to improve it. I would consider myself deist/agnostic at the moment. But I am also open-minded and willing to accept evidence in favor of Christianity. So.. convince me! I won't be belligerent as I just have a thirst for knowledge. Feel free to reach out.
@@MikeWinger Okay then, I'll give it a shot but I'm gonna have my "critical thinking cap" on 🧐. By the way, thanks for replying. You've shown yourself more approachable and humble than the JW Governing Body at this point because they won't even admit the specific accusations against them, much less respond to criticism graciously. Unfortunately I know the reasons why... they are wrong, they know they are wrong, people have gotten hurt (or killed), and they are trying to do damage control and slow the leaks until their house of cards collapses. I have proof. Thanks again. Reach out anytime via my email if you ever want to have some insights from "the inside" of JW land. One thing, JW's do not use "studies in the scriptures" as an authoritative source anymore as the doctrine has... expired. "New light", ya know?
I’m by far not the best person to answer this. But what you said really made me think about my own journey to find Christ. It’s important to remember that God is good. He is pure white Light that’s eternal. He only tells the truth and can swear on no higher than himself. With that in mind, it’s important to understand the spiritual context of sin. The presence of sin has destroyed humanity. Not only does it disobey God’s central law and authority, but it destroys all creation around it. Due to how destructive sin is in the spiritual realm, it must be punished and condemned. However, God is so loving and merciful, that he planned out how to save humanity on a spiritual level before the earth was conceived, by sacrificing his only begotten Son Jesus Christ. His Son did nothing wrong, was sinless, yet paid the ultimate price for all of our transgressions. He is now filled with honor and glory. He’s on the right hand of God, there is no higher position, and he will be a brother to us. This is a testament to the love that God has for us all, yet his hatred for sin. We with faith in the Lord, who follow his will, which is ingrained in our hearts (to love one another and to share compassion and charity), can receive salvation and glory in the spirit. All sins will be forgiven, and all sorrows will be erased because of Christ. It’s important to recognized that this world is not good. It’s been corrupted by sin and the wicked one, who looks to destroy all goodness and to harm innocence. For example, we war with one another because of sin. We become filled with lust, greed, envy, self-righteousness, and hatred. We conquer to fill ourselves and our pleasures, yet that void can never be filled without God within us (as a modern example, think about how empty riches are). He sparks that love we feel for one another. He gave me the strength to reach out to you, because I can feel that frustration that you rightly feel. You feel used and the interests of men took precedent over what matters. However, please remember, God allows us to care for those in need, to break down all barriers to replace them with love, to be merciful, to forgive, and to desire peace. These things are of the Spirit, not the flesh. You can differentiate and man and a man of God by these things. We are not warring against mankind, but principalities and powers in wicked places. You are right that humans are cruel and can abuse power. I am truly sorry that you had a bad experience that had made you question faith. I know many who never were given a chance to see the Lord’s glory because of the selfishness of individuals trying to be greater than they are (I am also guilty for this, being a sinner). But faith is found in the heart. I started reading the KJV on my own when I had nothing. It was a long process, but I found faith in the Lord because my heart changed. I repented of my horrible sins that I was aware of, and learned how to love again. This transformation was not of my own power, but was granted to me by the Lord. I beg you as a brother or sister in Christ to not let mankind dictate your faith. Read the New Testament yourself and truly feel the message of love. And if you find that faith, which I’m confident you will, I recommend using the Church as a way to bond with other individuals to increase your love. That love starts in your heart, from the Word, and nowhere else. No man can give you faith. Lastly, always remember that we cannot understand the full picture of this spiritual warfare. We can’t even see it! Yet we can definitely feel it. We cannot understand God at His level. He doesn’t confer with us about everything, yet made one thing sure, you are loved and can overcome this world like our Lord Jesus did. And find everything you need in your heart.
@@MikeWinger Why people fight against JAH and his worshippers? John 15:21 Jesus said: But they will do all these things against you on account of my name, because they DO NOT KNOW the One who sent me (JEHOVAH).
@@johnf587 hi John it is a waste of time writing Mike he only answers on line questions at certain times and it looks like he picks and chooses questions he knows how to answer. He is also judge, jury and executioner of those who question his teachings, especially the trinity.
I was a Witness until I graduated highschool. tbh, I know I may get laughed at for saying this but I don't understand what is so bad about their organization. I saw for myself what they said and what both their translation and what the King James version of the bible said. Besides a difference in grammar, it had the same meaning. I see why they don't celebrate birthdays as the only two birthdays accounted in the Bible resulted in murder. My nana didn't nag me to go to the meetings because she said it was on my terms and she was not going to force me to go. I didn't see anything cult like with JW. also a cult isn't worldwide, it's usually isolated in one spot. Even though I left the organization, I have nothing bad to say about them. PS to those who say they twist the Bible. They do not. They see it as a sin to "water down" (as they put it) the Bible.
Hi, Chevy. The JWs have a false, unbiblical Christ and a false, unbiblical way of salvation and multiple other falsehoods. And the NWT is not regarded as being a legitimate translation by any credible Bible translation scholar. Historically speaking, the JW doctrines came first, and then a "bible" was created to support them. As for the idea of "bad things happened on birthdays, so they shouldn't be celebrated/observed" - If we go by that kind of "reasoning", then gardens are also evil because look what happened in the Garden of Eden. And also God calls Israel HIS garden/vineyard in Isaiah 5, but all it yielded was bad grapes.
@@StretchMn I started doing things that Witnesses are not allowed to do, such as smoking/vaping and was dating somebody who was not in the "truth" (as JW calls it). I eventaully broke it to my grandmother that I was leaving. Even though she was in tears, she said she would respect my decision. I contacted our elders about it. It was announced that week I was no longer a JW. Even though I have no plans on returning, as I said JW's actually are the ones who just want to serve their god and help people. They're banned in Russia if I heard correctly.
I love the terminology you use; insulated social community. Sound better than cult and using this will break down barriers. I think outsiders underestimate the level of fear within the community. Fair of not doing enough, fear of each other because people are encouraged to tell on each other and even themselves. The fear of natural human desires, the fear of not saving enough people and therefore being destroyed. Even after I had left I thought I was still going to die, but I was so exhausted of not doing and being enough I didn't care. When I read the gospel and saw the love of Christ, I was so angry for what I was born into. But now through Christ I am finally free. Thank you, I hope you save many JW souls.
So, first of all, are you disfellowshipped? Or just leave? Second, let's break down each of your "accusations" and look to the Bible to see if it right. 1. Fear of not doing enough. That's false. JWs do everything out of love - love for Jehovah. Love for their brothers and sisters. Love of fellow man. Lu. 21:1-4 is the example of a poor widow who put in everything she had. And Jesus praised her for it. Everyone has different circumstances. So we all do what we can with what we have. But, we also do try our best to be obedient and follow all that the Bible says to do. Like preaching, which Jesus commanded we do. Col. 1:10,11 - so as to walk worthily of Jehovah in order to please him fully as you go on bearing fruit in EVERY good WORK... Col. 3:23 - Whatever you are doing, WORK at it whole-souled as for Jehovah 2. Fear of each other. (Telling on each other) Only the wicked worry about being found out. (Was that you?) Paul said at Ro. 16:17: "keep your eye on, or mark (or identify) those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned (or apostates!) AND AVOID THEM!!!" Which means to NOT associate with. Paul said at 1 Co. 5:11: "...quit mixing in company (not fellowship) with anyone called a brother that is... not even eating with such a man (not fellowship)... Remove the wicked man from among yourselves. (not fellowship) Mt. 18:15-17 - Moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go and reveal his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector. (Tax collectors were avoided) 3. Fear of natural desires. There is nothing wrong with natural desires. As long as they are in harmony with the bible. 1 Cor. 6:9,10 is a list of "desires" that are wrong, and if we practice them, we will not be in God's kingdom - Or do you not know that unrighteous people will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Do not be misled. Those who are sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who submit to homosexual acts, men who practice homosexuality, thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom. So yes, there is a fear of and fight against committing those wrong desires. 4. Fear of not saving enough people. That's also false. But, we love all and hope that as many as can will learn the truth and make it into God's kingdom. So we preach. We can only spread the message to everyone. But we know not everyone will accept it. Only those that Jehovah draws. Because he knows their heart. That includes those who are JWs. So true worshippers, who love Jehovah and his son Jesus, will follow the bible and be obedient. Those who don't, do not and will not. Remember Noah's day? Only a few survived, but many perished. Mt. 24:37-39 - For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be. Oh, and one more thing. Fear. That too is a requirement. Pr. 8:13 - The fear of Jehovah means the hating of bad Pr. 16:6 - And by fearing Jehovah one turns away from bad. Ecc. 12:13 - The conclusion of the matter, everything having been heard, is: Fear the true God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole obligation of man. Ac. 10:35 - ...but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.
@Woman of Character I agree with Mark K. My parents and grandparents were/are Jehovah’s Witnesses and I grew up knowing the truth. The only time I had fear is if I was doing something wrong, and it wasn’t fear of the Congo, it was fear of disappointing my parents. Everything else that Mark shared is exactly correct. We do things out of love for our fellow man and love fore Jehovah.
@Breadfromspirit That’s because he’s a buffoon and Mike is a wind bag who didn’t pause long enough for Allen to think of anything to interject. Either way they’re both liars and their claims have been disproven with scripture repeatedly. Too bad so many people still jump on their band wagons instead of seeking the truth.
@@watchman8644 you can't just make a statement and for anyone to believe you without any evidence to make your claim valid. Without it, it has no value.
@@jamesritter5078 you can't just make a statement and for anyone to believe you without any evidence to make your claim valid. Without it, it has no value.
One lady came to the house and I read my Bible daily so I was asking her so many questions because what she was saying was so contradicting to the word and she couldn't answer them so she told me she had to send someone else back...no one ever came back.
@@777Tralfaz777 Speaking of questions, what makes the world a better place?--when people exercise skepticism regarding unsupported supernatural claims, or when credulous religious believers murder children and infants because some man claims that god said so? "This is what the Lord Almighty says...Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys." (1 Samuel 15:2-3). What if a group of religious nuts were told to kill YOUR wife and children, because some man claimed that god said so? Would you rather they just had faith and believed the claim without evidence, or would you rather they were skeptical and demanded evidence before murdering your entire family, and your pets?
Its funny how he blast "8 guys in N.Y." but then doesn't every religion have guys that run their organization? Like the pope? Or Pastor Mike also? Isnt he running his church and deciding what to teach and trying to convince people to belive him and his ways?
@@StretchMn I agree. The point (well, my point) is not that religion is ridiculous -- I certainly do not think it is, and as a Deist I think there is a God out there -- but specifically that JW is a cult and nothing that anyone should support. As one of the heroes said in the book and movie Children Of the Corn, "Any religion without love and compassion is false! It's a lie!"
I grew up with JW parents. I went preaching house to house, hence I was a firm believer. I became a Literature Servant (old terminology) and candidate for a Congregation Servant ( old Servant). While in college, I co-mingled with students outside my belief. I began to enjoy and appreciated their friendship, while I pursue my college ambition. At my age, I began to venture to have girlfriends outside JW. I admired them immensely for their open- minded on religion. Consequently, I married a catholic nurse. We had 3 kids together, all baptized in the catholic church. My eldest and my second son married Catholic, while my youngest daughter married Jewish. They are all raising wonderful kids. I firmly believe that since God had ultimate love and wisdom, my family will receive a bountiful blessing from a loving God.
@manny It’s a shame you knew the truth and chose a different path. If you had real love for your family, you would guide them to the real life the Bible teaches and not just look for the easy path in Satan’s world.
@manny I read your comment again and I don't think you were ever one of Jehovah's Witnesses. You attempted to make it seem like it, but you definitely misused the terminology which makes me think you just used stuff you've heard or have seen other people use. Also, no one is ever a candidate for any "position" (for lack of a better word) within the congregation. What is a literature servant? What is a congregation servant? I'm sure you won't be able to explain because it's obvious you fronted.
By the way, yesterday I was visited by a JW and I told him to come back sometime when an election was over. I will try to entertain him and will start a conversation about the bible. Will see how good he is. I do not entertain a canned presentation.
@manny I know what a literature servant and a congregation servant is. Your explanation of what a congregation servant is (old servant) doesn’t line up. Also, if you were already an elder in the congregation you’d have been older. Did you go to college later in life and it was full of older people too? Your story has too many holes. You may have had parents who were witnesses and been raised in the truth, but I’m pretty confident in saying you were probably never an elder or “in line” to be the congregation servant.
As a former Jehovah's Witness, I can assert that the majority of what Mike Winger presents is incorrect. Nearly all crucial aspects are significantly misinterpreted or misunderstood.
dollsofvalley - Your assertion is indeed an assertion - and that's all it is. Provide 2-3 real, actual examples of where Mike is wrong regarding "crucial aspects" of what JWs believe that substantiate what you've asserted. If you're like over 95% of the people who post as you have, this will not happen.
@@dollsofvalley thanks. Whenever I have doubts or questions about the organization, I look at these types of videos and I hear the same twisting of my views. Only in the slightest things but it makes it sound like a cult. Like where did he get that we think Jesus dissolved??? He got resurrected. Like that’s one of our core beliefs? Anyways I’m just glad someone else is picking up on these weird insertions of falsehoods
@@jamesritter5078 Um, just go to the JW website and fact check it yourself. Don't look to me to give you a long winded explanation. Go to the website and DISCOVER FOR YOURSELF. You'll see that everything in this video has been misinterpreted or egregiously misunderstood.
Just curious why the subtitles are in Korean only? I am mostly deaf and rely on subtitles to understand what is being said. Will have to skip the video unfortunately.
Hello 🤗 thank you Jesus for another great and wonderful day 🤎 Thank you so much for sharing this and yes I agree. I do believe the Lord knew ahead of time people would pervert the gospel, and I think it's cool that some of these scriptures are pre warning ⚠️ thank you for sharing this 😇 God bless you 😇💕
Hey Mike could you do a video on Christian churches who preach they are the only way such as Church of Christ and Christadelphians. I grew up in the Church of Christ and my mom is now a christadelphian.
there is no church that is the only way- for salvation is found in every church- BUT there has to be one church who has the -truth or the best understanding of scripture above others
Amen to that - I used to belong to ICOC, and when I left them, they tried to convince me that I was leaving Jesus. Fortunately I knew my bible well enough to know that was wrong, but many people don't!
@@nykka3 International Churches of Christ - a "Christian cult" i belonged to back in the day when it was called the Boston Movement or Cornerstone Movement - they wanted (and evidently still do) complete control of your life (I'll never forget being bawled out over not praying before I ate a cup of Yoplait yogurt!), and they contend they are THE ONLY true church. Look them up - there is plenty of information on them.
Matthew, 10:34-36 , Jesus canceled his one title, the prince of peace, saying, ''Do not think i come for peace, instead Sword,! ''So, he is being the Way, he teaches the Ways on how to be saved?, so, the question is @John, 17:3, were this prayer a figuratives or not?
Well, that period in history is known as the 2nd great religious awakening. There’s been at least 4 of them in the last 300 years. It’s also the same time that Methodists, Baptists, and Presbyterians started showing up. Just because two groups popped up around the same time doesn’t mean they have anything in common.
@@KnuttyEntertainment Actually, that's incorrect about the Methodists, Baptists, and Presbyterians. For instance, the Methodists were founded by John Wesley during the early 1700s, far more than a century before JWs or LDS. And Baptists were originated from the Anabaptists who existed as early as the 1500s. Same for Presbyterianism, based on John Calvin, of the Lutherans, by John Knox of the early 1500s, about 1514, as well. So they are absolutely not associated with the JWs or LDS at all.
@Sam Collinson _The thing they have in common is that they were founded by Freemasons -_ I suppose you mean JW and LDS, right? Not Baptists, Methodists or Presbytarians, right?
I didn’t say they were founded during that time period, it’s just when they rose to prominence. And I agree that they’re not associated with Latter-Day Saints. My whole point was just because two groups (JW and LDS) rose to prominence around the same time or place doesn’t mean they’re related. And it wasn’t even that close anyway. There’s a 50 year time gap between the origins of the two groups.
I was born and raised JW (Fourth generation so we were really IN). Jesus saved me about 6 years ago. Your videos were pivotal in my waking process. Thank you Mike Winger for everything! Seriously you helped save my life and soul and I'm eternally grateful
I left seven years ago
@@eloisemartinez5301 Congratulations! Seriously. I pray my family would wake up every day. They are so blinded though. They rarely speak to me. It makes me so happy when I hear that others have gotten out. God has done an amazing healing in me but it was quite the process. God bless you!
@@Sarahopal most of the time it's people who get out become atheist and hate God so to see others who still believe in God and understand it's not God fault for that cult it's truly a blessing. Everyone I've ever known now shuns me. I have true freedom in Christ now though. It's so nice to meet you sis.. my testimony is on my channel as well
@@eloisemartinez5301 I will check that out! I love hearing ex JWs stories.
I tried the atheist thing but I just couldn't deny God. I searched desperately for "The Truth" for a while. I heard the song "Simple Gospel" and God took me on the most mind blowing path to Him. When we have been taught so thoroughly that everyone is lying, then find out our source of faith was a lie, it makes sense so many turn to atheism. Plus we were All horribly abused.
My dad's an elder in California (well on his way to traveling overseer). Last time I saw him I prayed God would give me words for him. I told him I'd found Jesus and He had totally changed my life, he said "well, just don't forget the Father" I said "how could I? I'd have nothing without Him. You know Jesus is the only way to Him though right?"
I pray a seed was planted.
(Sorry that's a long response and seems rambling. I am playing with grandkids and typing occasionally)
@@Sarahopal thank you so much for sharing your story. How absolutely beautiful that you were saved from this. Your testimony is so precious and I am so inspired by hearing your story about the seed you planted in your dad. 💜
My mom became a JW when I was 7. (7 years of birthdays and Christmas gone in one fell swoop and my sister didn’t celebrate her birthday until she was almost 30) My dad fought her about trying to indoctrinate me and my sister for years but finally gave into her and I was made to attend the Kingdom Hall. It was literal hell. I had nightmares for years about Armageddon. It caused so much damage to my family that I haven’t spoken to my mother in 12 years.
I’m going to try to reach out to her. I want her to have the peace that comes with knowing Jesus. The true Jesus.
You are so abused, no Christmas, no celebrating pagan lies like Easter and Halloween, if you think meetings were bad, just wait until the Tribulation starts!
God bless you 😊 Its my prayer every day that my parents would know the love of Jesus. It breaks my heart that so many are blinded by that cult.
(It seems like there are a whole lot of them here in the comment section, just a heads up. They've been commenting on my post and it's crazy). I pray you are successful in getting through to your mom and God lifts the veil from her eyes 🙏
@Ben Hurn Here's how you can tell how FALSE JWs are. The 144,000 JWs believe will rule over everyone with Jesus in heaven were/are spirit anointed by God (according to them). The numbers for these 144,000 were filled up 1919 until finishing in 1935 according to JW literature (see below). However these "spirit anointed ones" would most likely be disfellowshipped as apostates now in their own religion. They most likely at some point smoked, celebrated Christmas, birthdays, Easter, believed in the Cross, went to war, believed Charles "Taze" Russell was the "faithful slave", thought that Russell directed the religion even after his death, believed the Great Pyramid in Giza was a testimony to the Bible and its chronology, worshiped Jesus until 1954, claimed the KJ version was the perfect Bible, took blood, ect,ect,ect Pagans, pagans, pagans!!!
"Hence, especially after 1966 it was believed that *the heavenly call ceased in 1935."* Watchtower 2007 May 1 p.30
"Their being identified in 1935 as the great crowd of other sheep was an indication that the choosing of the 144,000 was then about complete." Revelation, Its Grand Climax Now at Hand p.125
"We understand that this heavenly calling continued down through the centuries, though during the so-called Dark Ages, there may have been times when the number of anointed ones were very few. With the reestablishment of true Christianity near the end of the last century, more were called and chosen. But it seems that *in the mid-1930's, the full number of the 144,000 was basically completed.* Thus there began to appear a group of loyal Christians with the earthly hope. Jesus termed such "other sheep," who unite in worship with the anointed as one approved flock." Watchtower 1996 Aug 15 p.31
@@Sarahopal People like you are so deceived you can't tell lies from truth! Winger is continuing the role played by the Pharisees of Jesus' day, making false claims to generate hatred against truth, spreading lies and doing Satan's work for him.
Christendom is the real cult as will be proven at the Tribulation when every bit of it will be destroyed.
@Ben Hurn ROM14: 4 Who are you to criticize someone else’s servant? He stands or falls before his own Lord-and stand he will, because the Lord[g] makes him stand.
5 One person decides in favor of one day over another, while another person decides that all days are the same. Let each one be fully convinced in his own mind: 6 The one who observes a special day,[h] observes it to honor the Lord. The one who eats, eats to honor the Lord, since he gives thanks to God. And the one who does not eat, refrains from eating to honor the Lord; yet he, too, gives thanks to God.
The day before my mother passed away, her phone battery had gone flat, and it switched off. I charged it, but when I turned it back on, I realized I didn’t know the PIN. My mother, who had never once used the long PIN in the eight years she owned the phone, suddenly provided it without hesitation. It was a moment that reassured me she was fully lucid.
Moments later, she began excitedly asking if we could see the “amazing curtains” she saw around her. Her eyes were bright with excitement. My mother had been a cloth designer all her life, and it struck me as odd because the hospital curtains were old, plain, and unimpressive. I told her, “Mother, what are you talking about? The curtains here are terrible.” But she insisted, “No, no, can’t you see them?” It dawned on me that what she was seeing wasn't earthly - she was walking through the temple of temples, heading towards the Holy of Holies.
The next morning, over the phone, I heard her say, “Jesus, take me. I am ready.” This was especially strange because my mother had been a devoted Jehovah’s Witness for over 45 years. She firmly believed that, upon death, people enter a state of unconsciousness and remain that way until the resurrection after Armageddon. Yet, in those final moments, she wasn’t calling out to Jehovah. She was calling out to Jesus. It became clear to me that she had realized something profound - the teachings she had followed her entire life were not true. She was experiencing a resurrection right then and there, in that moment, and going with Jesus.
A week earlier, she had been resuscitated, as if given time to disclose the truth she had discovered. During that week, a priest from another denomination visited her and asked if he could pray with her. Normally, she would have declined because, as a Jehovah’s Witness, she believed his prayers would not align with her faith. But to my surprise, she grabbed his arm and said, “Yes, brother, please pray.”
Throughout that week, she also gave me specific instructions. She told me that if I ever met any of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, I must remind them of 1 Corinthians, which emphasizes love. What she was saying, in essence, was that no matter how much you preach or how devoutly you follow doctrine, without love, it means nothing. She was particularly insistent on this because, although she had long been critical of my way of life, I had shown her love until the very end.
She also introduced my partner and a friend of mine to the doctors and nurses as her daughters. Although only I was her biological child, she explained that the others were also her daughters, referring to them as if they, too, had come from her womb. She did this not once, but twice, at two different hospitals. It became clear that she had reached a point of profound understanding - that love and connection mattered more than rigid doctrines or judgments.
In her final days, she repeatedly told me that she had been a “bad mother.” She was grappling with the realization that much of what she had believed and taught was mistaken. Her change of heart was complete, and she took every opportunity to disclose how the teachings she had followed were, in her view, deeply flawed.
But the story does not end there. After my mother passed away, I couldn’t summon the courage to collect her belongings from frail care, so my partner went in my place. When she returned home, I asked her for my mother’s Bible. She handed me a Bible, but it wasn’t the Jehovah’s Witness version I was expecting. Confused, I told her, “This isn’t my mom’s Bible.” My partner replied, “This is the one she asked me to pack for her when she went to frail care.”
It was a non-denominational Bible. I was stunned that she had chosen to take that Bible with her, as it was completely unlike her. Still bewildered, I asked my partner to bring me her Jehovah’s Witness Bible instead. When I opened it, I found a note on the very first page. In her handwriting, she had written: “Jehovah, clean your church (organization),” along with a Bible verse.
At that moment, it became clear - she had left that Bible behind intentionally. She had abandoned it at home, signaling that she no longer identified with it. Her choice to take a non-denominational Bible to frail care and the message she wrote in her old one were final acts of clarity, reflecting the transformation she had undergone in her last days.
Her journey was not just one of passing from this life to the next but of discovery, humility, and profound love. It was a transformation that left me in awe, giving me peace and a deeper understanding of her final moments.
@@InstrumentalBackTracks This is the most beautiful thing I've read all year!
@@CBman11037 Another thing happened the day before my mom passed away, and it still gives me goosebumps every time I think about it. She turned to me and said that my friend Lorraine had taught her what true friendship was all about and that she wanted to give Lorraine a special gift to remember her by. She stressed that it really had to be something special. She said this with a thoughtful expression on her face.
After my mom passed, I didn’t think much about it until Lorraine came to visit and told me that her son had just welcomed a baby girl. Now, Lorraine’s son, who lives in the UK, had never met my mother, nor had the baby’s mother. Yet, Lorraine told me that they had named the child Guadalupe.
Guadalupe is not exactly a common name, and the fact that neither Lorraine’s son nor the baby’s mother knew my mom made it even more astonishing. When Lorraine’s son later came to South Africa to visit, I asked him how they had decided to give their daughter-Lorraine’s first grandchild-that name.
He explained that the baby’s mother had had a dream, which we calculated to have happened around the time my mother passed-or possibly on the exact day my mother had told me she wanted to give Lorraine a special gift. In the dream, the baby’s mother was told to name her daughter Guadalupe.
How powerful is that? For anyone who doubts such things, this experience was beyond extraordinary.
Adding to the significance, my mother had introduced Lorraine to the hospital staff as one of her daughters, alongside me. And now, Lorraine’s first grandchild-a baby girl who, by the way, looks and even behaves a bit like my mom-was named after her other grandmother: my mother, Guadalupe.
How incredible is that for a gift after death?
A beautiful story
Thank you for sharing. That is such a beautiful testimony. Thank you so so much
I work with a young man who is a JW. All of my coworkers say he is always so depressed. We had a chat about faith today during our break. Holy Spirit, work your way into his heart!
They are all burnt out and miserable because it's very hard to stay ready for imminent Armageddon for well over a century. Almost like it wasn't imminent at all. And just a big old lie.
Like 21:8
@@Robbie-si1hw yeah I was in the jw thing for a long time since my mom joined it when I was five and almost all the people in it were depressed and I became depressed too I left
Its alot of work and parents force you to get up and go and u have to put on a act like u happy but really your not
I am a Born Again Christian. Since the age of 16 I have had numerous contacts with JWs over the years. I love these contacts because they think they are trying to convert me but it is actually the other way round. I pray that seeds are sown to see the way of the Lord.
You should have a Bible study with them then and see how it goes.
@@watchman8644 It has gone bad.
That is when my exercise of refutation to the border of rebuke takes place,
@@watchman8644 Any reply?
200 AD Tertullian "Never did any angel descend for the purpose of being crucified, of tasting death, and of rising again from the dead." (The Flesh of Christ, ch 6)
200 AD Tertullian "All the Scriptures give clear proof of the Trinity, and it is from these that our principle is deduced...the distinction of the Trinity is quite clearly displayed." (Against Praxeas, ch 11)
200 AD Tertullian "The origins of both his substances display him as man and as God: from the one, born, and from the other, not born" (The Flesh of Christ, 5:6-7).
200 AD Tertullian "[God speaks in the plural 'Let us make man in our image'] because already there was attached to Him his Son, a second person, his own Word, and a third, the Spirit in the Word....one substance in three coherent persons. He was at once the Father, the Son, and the Spirit." (Against Praxeas, ch 12)
200 AD Tertullian "Thus the connection of the Father in the Son, and of the Son in the Paraclete, produces three coherent Persons, who are yet distinct One from Another. These Three are, one essence, not one Person, as it is said, 'I and my Father are One' [John 10:30], in respect of unity of Being not singularity of number" (Against Praxeas, 25)
200 AD Tertullian "As if in this way also one were not All, in that All are of One, by unity (that is) of substance; while the mystery of the dispensation is still guarded, which distributes the Unity into a Trinity, placing in their order the three Persons - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost: three, however, not in condition, but in degree; not in substance, but in form; not in power, but in aspect; yet of one substance, and of one condition, and of one power, inasmuch as He is one God, from whom these degrees and forms and aspects are reckoned, under the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." (Against Praxeas, by Tertullian)
200 AD Tertullian "So too, that which has come forth out of God is at once God and the Son of God; and the two are one.... In his birth he is God and man united." (Apology, ch 21)
200 AD Tertullian "There is one only God, but under the following dispensation, or oikonomia, as it is called, that this one only God has also a Son, His Word, who proceeded from Himself, by whom all things were made, and without whom nothing was made. Him we believe to have been sent by the Father into the Virgin, and to have been born of her - being both Man and God, the Son of Man and the Son of God, and to have been called by the name of Jesus Christ; we believe Him to have suffered, died, and been buried, according to the Scriptures, and, after He had been raised again by the Father and taken back to heaven, to be sitting at the right hand of the Father, and that He will come to judge the quick and the dead; who sent also from heaven from the Father, according to His own promise, the Holy Ghost, the Paraclete, the sanctifier of the faith of those who believe in the Father, and in the Son, and in the Holy Ghost. That this rule of faith has come down to us from the beginning of the gospel, even before any of the older heretics." (Against Praxeas, ch 2)
200 AD Tertullian "That there are two Gods and two Lords, however, is a statement which we will never allow to issue from our mouth; not as if the Father and the Son were not God, nor the Spirit God, and each of them God; but formerly two were spoken of as Gods and two as Lords, so that when Christ would come, he might both be acknowledged as God and be called Lord, because he is the Son of him who is both God and Lord" (Against Praxeas 13:6)
200 AD Tertullian "The Spirit is God, and the Word is God, because proceeding from God, but yet is not actually the very same as He from whom He proceeds.." (Against Praxeas, ch 26)
200 AD Tertullian "For He could not have been the Father previous to the Son, nor a judge previous to sin" (Against Hermogones, Ch 3)
200 AD Tertullian "He will be God, and the Word - the Son of God. We see plainly the twofold state, which is not confounded, but conjoined in One Person - Jesus, God and Man.." (Against Praxeas, ch 27)
200 AD Tertullian "God alone is without sin. The only man who is without sin is Christ; for Christ is also God" (The Soul 41:3)
They are Christian’s btw😂
I always invited JWs in in the past but also informed them upfront I held a separate belief system. Nothing wrong with offering a small kindness. Your teachings are helpful.
All Scripture is inspired of God+ and beneficial for teaching,+ for reproving, for setting things straight,+ for disciplining in righteousness,+
They're not wrong about holidays being pagan in that Christian holidays were purposely made to be held on actual pagan holidays.
Funny how there are thousands of Christian denominations. All this confusion but god isn't the god of confusion, right?
@@salserokorsou .. do you think that God is responsible for people's choice when they choose a religion?
FYI - there are not thousands of versions of true Christianity - there is only one. - Ephesians 4:5
'one Lord, one faith, one baptism;'
The true religion is identified by its fruits and also its unity in obedience to the Christ and Jesus' teaching.
Who today are fulfilling Jesus' commission to make disciples and preach the "good news about God's kingdom"? - Matthew 24:14 Mark 13:10 Matthew 28:19 & 20
Which global organization has unity according to the scriptural requirement found at 1 Corinthians 1:10 and Hebrews 10:25
Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought.
And let us consider one another so as to incite to love and fine works, 25 not forsaking our meeting together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you see the day drawing near.
Who really are God's witnesses?
“You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah,
“Yes, my servant whom I have chosen,
So that you may know and have faith in me
And understand that I am the same One.
Before me no God was formed,
And after me there has been none.
11 I-I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.”
12 “I am the One who declared and saved and made known
When there was no foreign god among you.
So you are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “and I am God."
@@VestalNumbre You quoted 1 Timothy, but what "scripture" was he referring to? The gospel tales weren't written then. He could only have been referring to the Hebrew scriptures, so how does that help your case? Also, 1 Timothy is a proven forgery. Dr. Bart Ehrman, Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina: "We have already seen that supporters of Paul forged letters in his name. These pseudonymous authors obviously felt that Paul’s authority could prove persuasive in the context of the various controversies and struggles the Christian community was encountering. So we have a range of Pauline writings that he did not in fact write: Ephesians, Colossians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, 3 Corinthians, letters to Seneca, and no doubt numerous other letters that have not survived from the early church." - Forged: Writing in the Name of God--Why the Bible's Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are, pg 209
I was a JW for 14 years. I was suspicious of many of the teachings even when I was in. In fact, I had some and got baptized in spite of that. The one thing I learned as a JW is to trust that voice in your head that’s telling you that’s something is not right and get away. I eventually listened to my voice and walked away and didn’t look back.
I'm glad to read that you are free.
@@jamesritter5078 You only THINK she is free, she will pay dearly for her alleged freedom.
@@truthbetold8610 - LOL! By walking away from both the multiple false teachings and the rigid control of the JW masters who demand that people be their thralls? Get real. It can't be anything other than WONDERFUL to be free from that.
@@jamesritter5078 You know nothing about JW teachings so your "knowledge" is based on lies from ignorant preachers like this fool, Winger.
Rigid control!? What a crock! You're too clueless to even comment.
You did the right thing.
*Do not join any church, denomination or sect...just worship Jehovah in spirit and in truth...obey Jesus our king.*
I had a few JWs come up to me recently in the street but they didn’t even say they where JW. They started talking about the Our Father prayer and a couple very “Christian” things then invited me to their gathering. As a Catholic Christian I was happy to agree about the importance of scripture, prayer and living out the faith. It was only when I actually looked at the leaflet they gave me I clocked the logo
They said
Clocked the logo.
As in notice and recognise it:
And then basically reject it cause of how funny they run their belief system.
How does someone come to the conclusion that they were JWs? None of that experience smells of JWs behaviour.
@@jimjuri6490he said, when he looked at the leaflet. If someone hands you a watchtower leaflet, they're probably JW. Also, that seems exactly like what they do and to some extent I don't blame them, people are mean.
@@GreatDayEveryone : Plenty of people hand leaflets to people. Political agenda persons do.
I do not think JWs do such. JWs would explain the reason why they are preaching and then hand something over if the person is in a hurry for him to read later.
I was raised a Catholic and I used to recite the Our father prayer without paying attention to what the words were saying. It was not until I began to study with Jehovah’s Witnesses that I began to understand the scripture. As opposed to using a title. I learned that God has a name, Jehovah. Jesus in the model prayer hallowed God’s name. And he prayed that Gods will be done on earth be done as it is in heaven. Psalm 37:9,10,28,29 shows us that the wicked will be done away with and the earth will be made a paradise, just as originally intended. I am grateful that someone knocked at my door. I have a hope for the future and look forward to seeing my dead family members again. John5:28,29
You got almost everything correct, but the governing body is not in Brooklyn, NY anymore. They have moved to Warwick, NY. This is not a criticism. You are doing great work, but the current JW will pick up on this. I appreciate you caring about JW. I was raised a JW.
Show them, love. Most of them are good people. Thank you!
Thanks for the update!
@@MikeWinger Even the disciples of Jesus had wrong expectations, they believed Jesus was going to set up the Kingdom or Government right then and there and take away the oppression of Rome. But no it would be a while and more learning till they understood biblical prophecy.
@Ben Hurn this bashing of others because you do not like what they say is very divisive and only serves the evil one.
The trinity message being perpetrated by certain Christian churches is only confusing their people and the result is that they do not understand who the Father or the Son truly are. This lack of accurate biblical knowledge will cause many to lose their way spiritually. It is a very sad thing to see those who are suppose shepherd their flock with accurate Biblical teaching using man-made teachings that do not stand up to scrutiny.
@Ben Hurn there is a line between bashing and telling the truth. Bashing would indicate maliciousness, and this certainly isn't that. Youbhave to explain why the JW doctrine is, quite frankly, blasphemy. Doing so isn't bashing.
@Ben Hurn I would say that that is a nonsequetor. I would dare say that based on previous videos of Mr. Winger, he is also speaking out against the teachings of "progressive Christian pastors" blasphemers as well, so I'm not quite sure of the point.
He's specifically addressing the doctrine of the JW area and how to attempt and counteract their teachings to save them. Is that not worth exploring?
I'm not quite putting the "bashing" and the proverbial cleaning of a back yard together and I would invite you to clarify.
That Allen Parr is a great interviewer he keeps quiet and let's his guest talk. Great job Allen.
He doesn’t know anything that’s why he’s being quiet. The other numbnuts is the one who has the radio voice so he is the one who is blabbing all these lies. Y’all are so easily fooled 😂
@@alexanderkane3960To what lies are you referring?
I met a few JW at a park and began sharing my testimony, not knowing that they were Jw. They told me they were and started trying to debate specifics about several subjects, but I just kept going back to “we can debate our entire lives and it would get us nowhere, how you know you’re born again is when the Holy Spirit is developing fruit in your life, Joy, gratitude, peace, etc etc” every time I said this they nodded and the man kept looking down. He knew I was right. I said everything in joy and love (praise be to God), I know they could feel my joy, and I could sense that they had no joy, in fact they seemed depressed. I don’t say that as a put down either. I know the Lord led me to meet them and share the gospel with them, He loves them. And though I couldn’t tell them anything that jw’s are specifically wrong about, the way The Lord used me to keep sharing about the fruit of the Holy Spirit was even better, instead of me vs them it became about the wonderful changes God has done in me. I know they could see the Holy Spirit in me and that they were missing out on it, hopefully they’ll seek Christ.
Then that shows the JWs have the truth. Because becoming a JW means producing good fruit. Jesus said in Mt. 7:13-23 that we can know the true religion based on that good fruit and whose not because of their rotten fruit.
That rotten fruit would be things like joining the military and fighting and killing in wars.
Supporting and allowing and condoning immorality and homosexuality and abortion. Plus smoking, drugs, over drinking, gambling, etc.
Being part of the world by voting and supporting/ running for office in politics.
And infusing paganism into their worship.
JWs do not.
So displaying the fruitage of the spirit requires changes and not doing the above.
@@StretchMn you are debating about specific things again. They did not have any fruit of joy, they looked depressed as I said. Being born again is not about one specific denomination, lots of people in every denomination including many people in jw’s are luke warm. The Bible says the luke warm will be spit out of God’s mouth. Several people of every denomination are wolves. Then there is the born again Christian, filled with the Holy Spirit. I believe there are born again people in every denomination, maybe some more than others but either way, God can reach anyone in anyplace. There’s lots of born again believers that are not even part of a church. God chooses. These are people that are passionate about God and show the fruit of change in their lives and the fruit of joy, peace, patience, etc. following specific things in the Bible does not make a person born again. One still must be filled with the Holy Spirit.
And I also do not celebrate pagan holidays or the other things you mentioned, because the Lord led me away from them right after I was born again. I did join the military, but that was before I was born again. The Lord led me out of that right before covid happened, praise Him because I’d have lost all my benefits had I stayed in, because I would’ve never taken that jab.
@@kristinaa9476 Thats good that you can see changing your life and being obedient to God is a must, and that you did.
But as for joy, JWs are the most joyful people as a group there is.
Everyone has moments of sadness and stress living in this wicked and imperfect. world
@@StretchMn thank you. I agree that we can’t all be joyful all the time.
@@kristinaa9476 JWs follow the command and example of Jesus and preach and go out everywhere they can to reach people.
Once in a great while, someone may be not as chipper as they could.
The fruits Jesus discussed applies to anyone who would want to follow Jesus.
So that's how know who is worshipping in truth, individually or a group.
The JWs are known for their determination and adherence to the scriptures and God's principles.
It's better when we can find common ground and be cordial. 🙂
I am so happy that I left the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah witnesses...... I am a born-again Christian and I believe in my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and I'm so happy I am so happy to say that I have found the best way of giving glory to God and Jesus Christ.
Hi, Carolyn. I'm not a JW. I would be interested in reading how you left/escaped from the JWs. I have an interest in those kinds of stories.
@ladycarolynb2450
What does it mean to be "born again"...well scripturally that is?
Carolyn - Just FYI - I believe dyljenings may be a JW.
And I really would like to read your story of how you left/escaped.
@jamesritter5078 Hi Carolyn 👋. I am a JW. I was unaware that it wasn't noticed in the comments.
But my story, what would you like to know? But I will tell you that I'm not interested in arguing. I can help sincere people from being deceived by these false religious teachers
Carolyn - Please note that the above post _is_ arguing itself.
I was born and raised a JW also and left a few years ago, finding your videos helped me so much. It’s crazy how they’ve twisted the Bible
Congrats welcome to the true Kingdom assuming you have a testimony of Jesus Christ.
John 3:3
@@kjh4112 Ecclesiastes 5:2 Do not be quick with your mouth, nor let your heart speak rashly before the true God, for the true God is in the heavens but you are on the earth.that is why your words should be few.
Kim Sabbatino, if you accuse someone of twisting facts, you can't just leave it at that. You have to say how they have done this, otherwise everyone could say that about anything without needing proof
@@trkstatrksta8410 look into the jw teaching that ancient Jerusalem fell in 607 bc to get to their 1914 doctrine, they got it all wrong it fell in 586/587
Kim it is so sad that you think the JWs have twisted the Bible. I give you a challenged to try to prove that we have. I will answer any objection that you have.
Thanks so much. Very helpful info and it explains why the two JW's that I know got so quiet when I was excitedly talking about Jesus and the Holy Spirit and my day of salvation that I remember so clearly.
Starting on the path to salvation is a fine thing. But our salvation happens when we endure.
(Matthew 24:13) But the one who has endured to the end will be saved.
Anna - Tralfaz is a JW and that is the reason for his post.
JWs believe that faith in Christ is just "the start" of salvation - After that, the JWs have a LOT of requirements for salvation that are not biblical. "Enduring" for a JW means receiving, believing and following all the things the JW "leaders" dictate to them.
@@jamesritter5078 Phil 2:12 Consequently, my beloved ones, just as you have always obeyed, not only during my presence but now much more readily during my absence, keep working out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
(Luke 13:24) “Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able.
@@777Tralfaz777 That's talking about physically enduring the Great Tribulation, not general salvation. Salvation (justification) is a ONE TIME event (cf. John 3:14). Paul said to the Philippian jailer in Acts 16:31
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved." The word 'believe' is an AORIST imperative, signifying a COMPLETED event. If Paul had taught what the Watchtower (and other cults) erroneously teach, he would have used the PRESENT imperative, which would carry the meaning. "Keep on believing."
@@mitchmiller7204 What do you think "believe" means? Does it mean faith that leads to action? To following Jesus' example?
Did you see Phil 2:12?
I talked to some JWs at the park about a month ago for about an hour (emphasis on “I talked to”, as they really didn’t wanna talk). They kept telling that they weren’t really there to talk, but rather to hand out literature. After about 30 mins or persistence, they finally opened up a bit and explained to me that I was wrong about the trinity. My final question for them was “will I go to hell if I’m not a Jehovah’s Witness?” The older gentleman resorted back to the comfort of his original answer and said “the answers you seek will surely be on the websites listed in our brochures.”
That's because they are not there to argue. But the trinity is pagan and false.
And fortunately, you won't go to hell if you're not of Jehovah’s Witnesses. As there is no such place. You'll just be dead, cease to exist.
You asked "My final question for them was “will I go to hell if I’m not a Jehovah’s Witness?”"
Your concept of hell, or our, the JW view of hell? Which is mankind's common grave. All who go to hell are resurrected, with a chance to accept Jesus and his sacrifice. Then hell is thrown into the lake of fire.
KJV Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Those who go to Gehenna, which is also the lake of fire, will never come back. Gone forever.
@@StretchMn where were the Jehovah's Witness for the last 2,000 years? Who was the HOLY SPIRIT teaching during all that time?
John 14 : 16 says JESUS promised to sent the HOLY SPIRIT to his disciples and will be with them forever.
Mathew 16 : 18 says CHRIST promised to build his church and that it cannot die.
The weeds don't kill the wheat for both grow together.
@Episcopalianacolyte Where was the Episcopal church for the last 2,000 years?
Your church was only founded a 100 years earlier in 1789 in Philadelphia.
Actually, it's a good thing your church didn't exist that long, since your church accepts and promotes homosexuality.
Something Jesus finds disgusting.
Where where the Jehovah's Witnesses for the last 2,000 years? Luke 14 : 28 and 29
For which of you intending to build a tower, does not sit diwn first and estimate the cost, to see whetger he has enough to complete it?
Otherwise when he has laid a foundation and is unable to finish, all who will begin to ridicule him.
JESUS did the same with his church.
This explains why my neighbor didn't like me wishing him a happy Easter.
Yeah, because Easter is pagan, it's worldly or if you find it in your Bible and then figure out it's appropriate. Then challenge yourself. But you're gonna find that true. Christians were fighting against paganism. In other words, the current Christian mainstream. Or what we call Christendom. They are aligned or an opposition to true Christianity.. They believe in the doctrines of men.They do not believe holy in the bible.
So in your Bible John 14:28.
And no, they do not change the scriptures to force Jesus to be some kind of Trinity.
And you should do a step-by-step scripture.Comparisen as to who Michael the Ark angel is, if they are wrong about him.Why don't you tell your audience who he is
Are you religious organizations out there? No good and well Jehovah's witnesses have the truth. They're not aligned with the government. They're not into paganism or idolatry. All the things that you've learned. But you make up these twisted things with Trinity. Telling people they're gonna burn in hell. Corrupting the whole thing if Jesus were God. Why wouldn't he just say he was God?And why does he say that he works and was deployed by jehovah
Best to use scriptures,
You got some explaining to do! What does this mean?
1 Corinthians 15:23+
But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.(Revelation 14:1)21For since death came through a man, (Adam) the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.(Jesus)22For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.23But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits;(RO. 5:17) then, when he comes, those who belong to him.24Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.25For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.26The last enemy to be destroyed is death.27For he "has put everything under his feet." [3] Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
15:28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.
Jesus said:
You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am.
And when all things shall be subdued unto him (Jehovah)
My grandmother was a Baptist deacon that knew the Bible inside-out back-to-front. Jehovah's Witnesses used to stop by her house all the time. Eventually they were instructed to stay away from her house.
Because they went in as Jehovah's Witnesses, and left as Christians after she was done with them.
Amen!
@larysnw418 JWs are not Christians.
@larysnw418 No, lary, JWs are not Christians. You have been shown this many time, and the ONLY thing your posts have EVER done is run away.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
by the higher-ups back in the JW's. Apparently a few of them told the leadership about this lovely lady that they had been having these discussions with, and she made enough of an impression that the JW leadership in the area wanted their folks that were going door-to-door to stay away from that address, because the people that visited her were starting to have reservations about the JW's. Same thing happened with mormons. @larysnw418
Thank you! As an X Catholic married to an X SDA, we approve this message! The Governing Body, the General Conference, the Papacy, what could go wrong?
x catholic?
Me too - ex chatholicn- everything so twisted/perverted and works-based. The papacy is sickening but nobody will study it (which doesn't take long!).
The problem with deception is that people don’t realise that they are deceived 😢
The earth is not a spinning ball!
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr actually it is because the Bible mentions that the Earth is spherical.Isaiah 22:18 ESV / 14 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
And whirl you around and around, and throw you like a ball into a wide land. There you shall die, and there shall be your glorious chariots, you shame of your master's house
Except you of course
So true. We have been decieved about the globe earth since 1500s
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr amen brother. Bible is clear on that.
I remember when i was a teen a JW came to my grandmas door and i answered it, i had no idea what they believed but he tried showing me some scripture and i told him we were already saved. She gave me a pamphlet and it was the watchtower. Later when my grandma came down stairs she saw it own the table and said "Who brought this witchcraft and blasphemy in my house" i got an ear full that we dont take the pamphlets from JW and we dont entertain their conversations. (Grew up COGIC)
your grandma is based
Your grandma is an actual soldier of Christ 💯🙏🏽
When someone tells a JW that he is already saved, it makes it obvious that that person doesn't know what the Bible teaches.
Saved from what they might ask. But that would embarrass people. So they give a bit of literature and leave.
@jimjuri6490 Alright go ahead How does somebody who says they're saved Not know the bible?
@@jacobmarkell2568 : First explain what SAVED means? Saved from what?
People who claim to be saved, should know what they are talking about, surely.
Based on the explanation, we can compare it with what the Bible teaches.
I’m really enjoying seeing all my favorite Christian TH-camrs getting together and teaching the word of God. Your platforms is growing really fast. God bless you brothers.
If you actually read The Bible, you will see these "Christians" in the videos are far away from being True Christians. Study and research Gods word, and pray to God to help you find him and to get closer to him with all, total sincerity and humility, and you will see and know (Psalm 1:1-6 [focus on #2], the "wicked" are all who don't "read [Gods word] in an undertone day and night" or those who don't come to an accurate knowledge of the truth).
@@markuse3472....You can study the Word of God for 30 years and not have it written on your heart. The Word of God needs to be written unto your heart as well as you studying it.
@@markuse3472....Glory unto God! Holy! Holy! Holy! Lord God Almighty!
Talking down about 1 cult while being in another cult. It's ironic really. Sad too.
Christ never observed the tenants of Christianity. Their history of slavery and genocide speaks for itself.
I've come to realized adult JWs raised as a JW have some of the worst cognitive dissonance and depression. Like any cult, leaving means cutting ties with your family and everyone you've grown up with and - since the community is so isolated - they are left with no one. Praying for my many brothers and sisters still suffering alone; inside and outside of this organization.
Please explain this "cognitive dissonance".
@@777Tralfaz777 I'm a former JW and have friends and family who are formerly and currently JWs. The cognitive dissonance I've seen manifest in current members results from the inability to hold any kind of relationship from people outside of the organization. An example would be my father, who I see 2-3 times a year. Each time he brings study materials so he has a reason to come but he misses his kids and grandkids and has a heart full of regret from not watching them grow up. JW congregations encourage this type of behavior and use scriptures like 1 Cor 5:13 and 1 Cor 15:33,34 to support the belief that they should isolate themselves from any type of non believer, non active member, or a member in danger of being marked or disfellowshipped.
@@James-xq1mp That is not what I understood cognitive dissonance to mean. Cognitive dissonance has to do with knowing one thing, but being taught and saying you believe something else. That manner of mental conflict.
It is not about following scriptural counsel, even though it is difficult.
@@777Tralfaz777 Correct. It is holding two conflicting beliefs in your mind. Whole heartedly believing that God didn't want to separate you from your family and believing that the JW organization is the truth is contradictory. Raymond Franz, the governing body member who resigned his position and left the organization, described the situation many JWs find themselves in as having to choose between loyalty to God and loyalty to religion.
@@James-xq1mp Matt 10: 34 Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. 35 For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me. 38 And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds his soul will lose it, and whoever loses his soul for my sake will find it.
While we are sinners, and the spiritual man fights the physical man within us, JW do not teach inconsistent beliefs. Following your religion should be following God. Were you baptized as one of JW?
I too was born and raised a jw . I remember the day in March 2018 when I resigned from jw like. I took my NWT bibles, both the old black 1984 version and the grey one as well and made a fire to burn them. After I set them to flame and they started burning I felt remorse and started killing the flame to rescue the bibles. I started praying and asking God to forgive me for burnings the bibles. Then out of the blue I heard this very loud audible voice and it said “HE WHO DENIES THE FATHER AND THE SON IS THE ANTICHRIST”. There was nobody near me to have said this and in fact the voice sounded exactly like my own, but very loud and audible. I thereafter continued burning the bibles.
Wait so why did you continue? I’m a little confused
@san-g he was burning the mistranslated JW bibles
@@san-g1344 I felt remorse so I stopped burning them. I thereafter continued burning them coz I heard Gods voice saying "HE WHO DENIES THE FATHER AND THE SON IS THE ANTICHRIST. "(1 John 2v22). Gods voice confirmed that I was correct by getting rid of this mistranslation. That this translation is of the antichrist since it denies the Father and the Son.
That's awesome man. Yes people, God is still speaking today. But it won't contradict his true written word.
Praise be to God!!
Acts 19:18-20 KJV
[18] And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds. [19] Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men : and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. [20] So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.
I'm the whole Bible believer, and I'm preparing for the conversation with JW. Thank you for all the precious information. God bless!
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I too am a whole Bible believer. What do you think Mike said that equips you to converse with us?
Do you believe this verse?
(1 Corinthians 8:6) there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
@@777Tralfaz777 You're not a bible believer.
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria [note: Clement NEVER calls Jesus a creature.] "There was then, a Word importing an unbeginning eternity; as also the Word itself, that is, the Son of God, who being, by equality of substance, one with the Father, is eternal and uncreated." (Fragments, Part I, section III)
"that so great a work was accomplished in so brief a space by the Lord, who, though despised as to appearance, was in reality adored, the expiator of sin, the Saviour, the clement, the Divine Word, He that is truly most manifest Deity, He that is made equal to the Lord of the universe; because He was His Son, and the Word was in God, not disbelieved in by all when He was first preached, nor altogether unknown when, assuming the character of man, and fashioning Himself in flesh, He enacted the drama of human salvation: for He was a true champion and a fellow-champion with [ie. God among creatures, not that Jesus is classed as a creature] the creature." (Exhortations, Chap 10)
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "I understand nothing else than the Holy Trinity to be meant; for the third is the Holy Spirit, and the Son is the second, by whom all things were made according to the will of the Father." (Stromata, Book V, ch. 14)
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "When [John] says: 'What was from the beginning [1 John 1:1],' he touches upon the generation without beginning of the Son, who is co-equal with the Father. 'Was,' therefore, is indicative of an eternity without a beginning, just as the Word Himself, that is the Son, being one with the Father in regard to equality of substance, is eternal and uncreated. That the word always existed is signified by the saying: 'In the beginning was the Word' [John 1:1]." (fragment in Eusebius History, Bk 6 Ch 14; Jurgens, p. 188)
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria 'For both are one - that is, God. For He has said, "In the beginning the Word was in God, and the Word was God." (The Instructor, Book 1, ch 8)
190 AD Clement of Alexandria "Despised as to appearance but in reality adored, [Jesus is] the Expiator, the Savior, the Soother, the Divine Word, he that is quite evidently true God, he that is put on a level with the Lord of the universe because he was his Son." (Exhortation to the Greeks, 10:110:1).
190 AD Clement of Alexandria "The Word, then, the Christ, is the cause both of our ancient beginning, for lie was in God, and of our well-being. And now this same Word has appeared as man. He alone is both God and man, and the source of all our good things" (Exhortation to the Greeks 1:7:1).
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "Now, O you, my children, our Instructor is like His Father God, whose son He is, sinless, blameless, and with a soul devoid of passion; God in the form of man, stainless, the minister of His Father's will, the Word who is God, who is in the Father, who is at the Father's right hand, and with the form of God is God." (Instructor, Book I, ch. 2)
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "His Son Jesus, the Word of God, is our Instructor.... He is God and Creator." (Instructor, Book I, ch. 11)
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "This is the New Song, the manifestation of the Word that was in the beginning, and before the beginning. The Savior, who existed before, has in recent days appeared. He, who is in Him that truly is, has appeared; for the Word, who "was with God," and by whom all things were created, has appeared as our Teacher. The Word, who in the beginning bestowed on us life as Creator when He formed us, taught us to live well when He appeared as our Teacher; that as God He might afterwards conduct us to the life which never ends." (Exhortation To The Heathen, ch 2)
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "This Word, then, the Christ, the cause of both our being at first (for He was in God) and of our well-being, this very Word has now appeared as man, He alone being both, both God and man" (Exhortation To The Heathen, ch 2)
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "For it was not without divine care that so great a work was accomplished in so brief a space by the Lord, who, though despised as to appearance, was in reality adored, the expiator of sin, the Savior, the clement, the Divine Word, He that is truly most manifest Deity, He that is made [made = appointed not created, ie. made king after resurrection.] equal to the Lord of the universe; because He was His Son, and the Word was in God, not disbelieved in by all when He was first preached, nor altogether unknown when, assuming the character of man, and fashioning Himself in flesh" (Exhortation To The Heathen, ch 10)
190 AD Clement Of Alexandria "Now, O you, my children, our Instructor is like His Father God, whose son He is, sinless, blameless, and with a soul devoid of passion; God in the form of man, stainless, the minister of His Father's will, the Word who is God, who is in the Father, who is at the Father's right hand, and with the form of God is God." (The Instructor, Book 1, ch 2)
200 AD Tertullian
200 AD Tertullian
200 AD Tertullian "Never did any angel descend for the purpose of being crucified, of tasting death, and of rising again from the dead." (The Flesh of Christ, ch 6)
200 AD Tertullian "All the Scriptures give clear proof of the Trinity, and it is from these that our principle is deduced...the distinction of the Trinity is quite clearly displayed." (Against Praxeas, ch 11)
200 AD Tertullian "The origins of both his substances display him as man and as God: from the one, born, and from the other, not born" (The Flesh of Christ, 5:6-7).
200 AD Tertullian "[God speaks in the plural 'Let us make man in our image'] because already there was attached to Him his Son, a second person, his own Word, and a third, the Spirit in the Word....one substance in three coherent persons. He was at once the Father, the Son, and the Spirit." (Against Praxeas, ch 12)
200 AD Tertullian "Thus the connection of the Father in the Son, and of the Son in the Paraclete, produces three coherent Persons, who are yet distinct One from Another. These Three are, one essence, not one Person, as it is said, 'I and my Father are One' [John 10:30], in respect of unity of Being not singularity of number" (Against Praxeas, 25)
200 AD Tertullian "As if in this way also one were not All, in that All are of One, by unity (that is) of substance; while the mystery of the dispensation is still guarded, which distributes the Unity into a Trinity, placing in their order the three Persons - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost: three, however, not in condition, but in degree; not in substance, but in form; not in power, but in aspect; yet of one substance, and of one condition, and of one power, inasmuch as He is one God, from whom these degrees and forms and aspects are reckoned, under the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." (Against Praxeas, by Tertullian)
200 AD Tertullian "So too, that which has come forth out of God is at once God and the Son of God; and the two are one.... In his birth he is God and man united." (Apology, ch 21)
200 AD Tertullian "There is one only God, but under the following dispensation, or oikonomia, as it is called, that this one only God has also a Son, His Word, who proceeded from Himself, by whom all things were made, and without whom nothing was made. Him we believe to have been sent by the Father into the Virgin, and to have been born of her - being both Man and God, the Son of Man and the Son of God, and to have been called by the name of Jesus Christ; we believe Him to have suffered, died, and been buried, according to the Scriptures, and, after He had been raised again by the Father and taken back to heaven, to be sitting at the right hand of the Father, and that He will come to judge the quick and the dead; who sent also from heaven from the Father, according to His own promise, the Holy Ghost, the Paraclete, the sanctifier of the faith of those who believe in the Father, and in the Son, and in the Holy Ghost. That this rule of faith has come down to us from the beginning of the gospel, even before any of the older heretics." (Against Praxeas, ch 2)
200 AD Tertullian "That there are two Gods and two Lords, however, is a statement which we will never allow to issue from our mouth; not as if the Father and the Son were not God, nor the Spirit God, and each of them God; but formerly two were spoken of as Gods and two as Lords, so that when Christ would come, he might both be acknowledged as God and be called Lord, because he is the Son of him who is both God and Lord" (Against Praxeas 13:6)
200 AD Tertullian "The Spirit is God, and the Word is God, because proceeding from God, but yet is not actually the very same as He from whom He proceeds.." (Against Praxeas, ch 26)@@777Tralfaz777
@@777Tralfaz777 the whole debating the trinity is always a poor choice
Mike that was such a good discussion.
Want to wake my Dad (JW) up , but it’s been over 50 years !!
I have to leave it in Gods hands and carry on praying for him.
Blessings from the U.K.
let him be saved from judgement John 5:24
@Lisa Bates Zeus works weekends, beside the other gods are too busy finding car keys and killing tiny infants on the African continent. If your god was a woman, she could multitask. Bad luck.
Hello Lisa, how are you doing?
I am a Christian, married a Christian, and now he's a JW. How effective is my marriage. How does my husband view me not being in the Truth? I truly need to know.
@@vanessapeterson4418 Biblically, marriage is marriage. The two of you disagreeing on whether Jesus is "God the Son" or "The Son of God" is certainly an important topic, but not one that nullifies marriage vows (biblically).
It is a topic that would be best to respectfully discuss. ... but... actually respectfully. Not condemning someone for disagreeing on which scriptures should be taken more literally.
I am an exJW I can tell you that I’m so happy to be out of there, I’ve never been so bored in all my life. I gave up all festivals, I was completely brainwashed ! Broke down 😢 but this gave me my freedom. I really enjoy listening to you Mike so thank you 🙏
What festivals?
@@StretchMn Festivals = xmas birthdays Easter Mother’s Day. In fact the only celebration we were aloud to have in our lives was wedding anniversaries and the memorial. Hoping this gives you an insight of what it’s like on the inside.
@dinkytaylor1645 oh it does!
Christmas and Easter are almost purely pagan.
Halloween is purely demonic and pagan.
Why would a Christian want to celebrate them?
@@dinkytaylor1645You do know that all of those holidays you mentioned, are actually of Pagan origin. The Catholic church is responsible for making those holidays "Christian", to bring in followers.
@@hatred4humanity yes indeed I do know about the pagan festivals, I still satisfy my family and join in reluctantly. The anagram of santa is as you can see is satan 😱
Grew up in a JW home. It was not a good time. I turned 17 and moved out so I didn't have to participate in this cult. I am now a Born Again Christian. I have gone round and round with the JW's on salvation, Jesus and who He is, on the 144k and more. Their ears do not want to hear the truth. It's amazing how they refuse to listen. One man came to my door, when sharing a scripture with him, he had a meltdown, screaming and running from my door. It was very weird. They predicted the end of the world dozens of times and well, nothing. They still keep predicting with no results.
Why wasn't it a good time?
@@StretchMnBecause JWs ruin lives?
People love to have their ears tickled, and to join the broad road to destruction. That is their choice. But to pretend it was the wise choice is the true folly.
Please, share scripture with me. Jesus is God's Son, and was sent by God to be the Messiah. Do you agree?
Hi, denise. I'm not a JW. Mark/StretchMn and Tralfaz are, and that is the reason for their posts.
I'm glad to read that you escaped from the JWs. You're right in what you've said.
I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness. I was required to "prepare for" and attend FIVE meetings per week...The Ministry School, The Service Meeting, The Book Study, The Watchtower Study and the Public Talk. Along with this, I was expected to get at LEAST 10 hours of "Field Service" or Door to Door each month, prepare and give a "talk" about every two months, and attend all of the Circuit and District Conventions. (District Conventions back then were FIVE LONG DAYS.) I had very little time or energy for anything else, and I rarely did any homework. I was also not allowed to have any friends in "the world" or "worldly" friends. I was not allowed to partake in ANY after school activities...I was not even allowed to join the Chess Club. I never got to celebrate Christmas or have a birthday party...not to mention Easter, 4th of July or any other holiday. And I did not have a clue that I was in a cult. I believed everything I was taught since I was a baby, and like I was trained, would DEFEND "the truth" to anyone that tried to show me the true light or real truth. I was about 40 years old when I began to question what I had been taught. I coincided with them changing the doctrine on 1914 yet again, due to their "new light." According to them, the generation of 1914, is STILL alive, and Jesus has already returned, but he came invisibly. Once I started to do honest research with a lot of it using the "Societies" own past publications, my eyes were opened. (Among other things, they have had one false prophesy after another.) I have now been free from this high control cult for many years, after doing a "long fade" as to avoid being disfellowshiped and shunned, simply for no longer agreeing with their doctrine. One thing to keep in mind...you may....just may, be able to plant a small seed of doubt in the mind of a JW, but they are TRAINED to raise their shields and NOT even listen to anyone or anything that questions the teaching of their Governing Body...especially an X-JW who they refer to as "apostates." They will not visit your church, or read anything you give to them. At your door, they may take it, but they are trained to throw it away without looking at it. Never forget they are truly cultists. And I am so glad I have freed myself from them.
@@ltbob8274 hope you're life's gotten better man
@MalwandeMbatha-gu9mx Yes, it most certainly has. I just wish it would not have taken me so long to open my eyes, and then so long to "fade" without losing most of my family. As a JW, it seemed like I could NEVER do enough to gain life. Even during the years when I did everything that was expected of me, I always had doubts as to whether or not I was going to make it through the "great tribulation," and live forever. (And I was always SO tired.) I never will forget the day I told my mother that I had excepted Jesus into my heart, and finally felt a calm and sense of freedom that I never had as a Witness. Her response?...."Jesus Jesus Jesus...don't you care about Jehovah anymore?" She did not take it well when I told her that if she read a real Bible instead of the NWT, without the Watchtower telling her what it "really'" means, that she would soon believe the same as I did....That Jesus IS God.
@ltbob8274 So how has your life gotten better?
@@ltbob8274 Mark is a JW troll (He doesn't want the cult's idea about former members' lives getting worse to be disproved).
@@misterauctor7353Sayeth the troll 🫵
Mike, thank you so much for this! I have been witnessing to my coworker who is a 3rd generation JW. My heart has such a compassionate burden for her.
Indeed. I was briefly involved with them as a child....many of their beliefs are dark and they are definitely a type of cult. Any religion that doesn't teach people to love each other is a false one, and they talk about being massacred and that one should have any regret about all those deaths as they were enemies of God. I hope your coworker doesn't adopt deicide...that was one of the ideas that really made me realize how dark and false they are. It's the belief that one should hate Jews because they supposedly murdered Jesus of Nazareth. :-O
Those who are saved by Grace , the word Grace is derived from the 3 PAGAN GODESSES of Greek Mythology , the Graces ? ? ? A LITTLE LEAVEN FERMENTS THE WHOLE LUMP ? ? ?
@@neutrino78x With what proof do you back up that statement that JWs do not teach love?
JWs do not not get involved in politics, which is divided in hate and anger. They do not go out and protest, which is divided in hate and anger and violence. They do not join or support in the military and wars, which is divided in hate and anger and violence and killing.
But every other "christian" religion does. Which means Catholics kill Catholics, Protestants killing other Protestants, Mormons killing other Mormons, and non-denominational killing other non-denominational. Jesus commanded his followers not be part of the world.
JWs are known for their preaching and teaching. Something Jesus commanded to do. Which shows their love for others, as they want everyone to know the truth.
Jesus said you would know the true religion by its fruits. A good tree produces good fruit and a rotten tree produces rotten fruit. As we are all imperfect and fall short, JWs then are the most loving organization there is. All the others will be asking Jesus why they aren't saved at the end.
(See Mt. 7:13-23)
JWs are not happy when people die. But there is a scripture that does say those who live by the sword will die by the sword. (Mt. 26:52) So violent people may die violently. Thats sad, but its what happens because of their choices.
So JWs do not hate people, they hate the bad that they do. But each one will be judged for his or her actions. And what those particular Jews, and those pharisees, did in having Jesus beat and killed was despicable. These were the ones that Jesus called offspring of vipers for their attitudes and actions.
Hello Jackie,how are you doing?
@@neutrino78x Wars in the Bible, are by God not man, God has perfect justice, he knows when and were to act you cannot tell him 'no God don't do this or that.' JW never fight in modern day wars, in WW2 Catholic, Protestant, and mormon Americans, killed German and Italian Catholics, Protestant and mormon brothers and other religions. An identifying mark of a true christain is love, these religions were not showing love at all, JW didn't kill each other or anyone else.
Thank you , I didn’t even realize all of this when I was a JW. Thank God, I came out of it.
THERE IS ONLY ONE JEHOVAH, OUR FATHER! ISA 45:18 - “I AM JEHOVAH, and there is NO ONE ELSE."
@@mr.d.c.1914.1 If that's not the most self explanation of a scripture
I’m still confused on JW beliefs about Jesus. Is Jesus “a god” or not divine at all?
@@mr.d.c.1914.1 Is yahwey and Yahweh is in Greek Lord . God is oneness .. don't be like a Muslim and read exodus 3
@@albusai Lord is Adonai. Jehovah is GOD's name and appeared in the Bible about 7k times
I believe that truth is simple,only lies are complicated.The more complicated a statement,the more it diverges from the truth.
For this reason I have no reason to believe any religion.
Occam's Razor pretty much covers that.
@@austinperkins8348 Especially Humanism I hope.
Is he the first born of all creation or not?
@Denise Hall
Like the trinity doctrine, one of the biggest lies of all time?
I totally apreciate your respectfulness re: the people and their beliefs - show love. Definately Christs message. Xx
Random to post here...but, I did watch and enjoy this video, too. I just wanted to say Happy Easter to you Mike.
I gain so much from your online ministry, am strengthened in mine through you, and keep thinking and growing as the Holy Spirit works to preserve and sustain me through your Bible studies and research.
Thank you for all of it, every video, every topic, every post. The victory is ours...paid in full. He is risen!
He is risen indeed. Alleluia!
Easter is the pagan goddess of fertility. Just letting you know so you can stop observing a holy day to a false god. Christ died on Passover and rose on the feast of first fruits.
@W. R.
Easter is a pagan holiday. Shows you’re not a real Christian.
@Dixie Hall
Jesus is risen, meaning he’s been resurrected. Who resurrected him? Acts 2:24 says God resurrected Jesus. Acts 10:40; Romans 8:11; Hebrews 13:20; all show the same thing.
Hallelujah is an abbreviation for Praise Jah, or Hail Jehovah. So you’re saying praise Jehovah for resurrecting Jesus. I would agree with that.
@@watchman8644 Easter is Christian.
I was born and raised JW. Jesus saved me. My mom is a JW, and I’m trying to tell her that it’s not the truth, and she won’t listen to me. I do understand why she won’t listen, but I keep trying. Is there a good question I can ask her?
pray for her, keep praying.
don't aggressively confront her believes, that'd make her put more barrier so she even won't listen, much less give anything you say a thought.
start with telling any sayings/wisdoms/advices from the bible (just roughly quote it) that is relevant to what's happening or to daily/small talks between you.
after sometimes, when she doesn't feel uncomfortable with the biblical quotes you said to her, you can touch doctrinal subjects but don't force it if she feels uncomfortable/agitate.
then you can openly talk with her when she is willing to open her ears and mind to hear and think of your views, and have a healthy discussion/debate.
it's works on my mom, but sadly not on my dad.
i hope it will help.
p.s. sorry for bad english.
@Debbie Dobson
Yes, ask her to have a Bible study with you and examine the scriptures in depth. Either you will learn the truth or you will draw her away.
Remember her in your prayers take a time before God, fasting etc. sometimes telling, arguing are not enough we need intervention from God and guidance from Holysprit.
You switched from one fake controlling system to another
Just stumbled on your page accidentally.
You got yourself a new subscriber to the channel.. So excited to learn more here.
Mike Mike Mike
All Theology Majors
And Bible Students know Jehovah's Name is in ALL Bibles
Don't be disingenuous
God"s name is in your Bible.
Stop the Scandalous Misrepresentation
Genesis 22
Jehovah Jireh
“Jehovahjireh” appears only once in the entire Bible-in Genesis 22:14 (KJV). It means “God provides.” Genesis 22: 14
Psalms 83:18
The name of Good King Jehoshaphat means
"God is Judge, Has Judged"
Jehoram (meaning "Jehovah is exalted" in Biblical Hebrew) was the name of several individuals in the Tanakh.
Jehoiachin means "May God establish"
Jehioakim : God Avenges, God Stands up
Jehoiadah : Yahweh knows
From Hebrew Yəhōyādhāʿ “Yahweh knows
What is the meaning of Jehonadab?
Jehovah is willing
Jehonadab (Hebrew: יְהוֹנָדָב; meaning Jehovah is willing; Latin: Jonadab) was the son of Rechab. He is mentioned in 2 Kings 10:15-31.
Jehoash:
Yahweh has given
Jehovah-shammah is a Christian transliteration of the Hebrew יְהוָה שָׁמָּה (Yahweh šāmmāh) meaning "Jehovah is there", the name given to the city in Ezekiel's vision in Ezekiel 48:35.
Jehovah-nissi According to Exodus 17:13-16 in the Bible, Jehovah-nissi is the name given by Moses to the altar which he built to celebrate the defeat of the Amalekites at Rephidim
Jehovah Rapha
Jehovah-Rapha?
God is known by many names in the Bible. Each name reveals a certain aspect of His character. Jehovah-Rapha is one such name found in the Old Testament and means “The God who heals” in Hebrew.
Jehovah Shalom” is Hebrew for “the God of peace.” Now, the first appearance of the name Jehovah Shalom is in the Old Testament story of Gideon in Judges 6.
@@patchooo84 a seriously long answer there
Could you please allow captions, in English, for the deaf, and hard of hearing?
It's only available in Korean.
Thank you.
God bless you Mike... Praise Jesus
When 1 Thes 4:16 says Christ shall descend from heaven "with the voice of the Archangel", it is referring to a shout and declaration by the Archangel particularly-appointed to herald Christ's appearance. It is not in reference to any shout or voicing from Christ Himself.
Oh interesting!
We will be glad to see you attending in our Kingdom Hall. I'm glad you are reading lots from our publications. You will be very educated through that tools.
Excellent point/observation. Lol. I've said something similar.
It's a false religion.. please pray to the real lord of all who is christ to reveal this to you
@@sebastiansingh5167 Jesus said to pray to the Father in Jesus name
@@StretchMn him and the father are one
@@sebastiansingh5167 The trinity theory states that the Father is NOT the son and the son is NOT the Father.
Jesus showed in his entire life on earth that he and the Father are two separate and distinct individuals.
Jesus also said at Jo. 17:1-3 that the Father is the only true God.
He also said at Jo. 4:23 to worship only the Father.
As a former JW, I really appreciated this video. I got baptised as a Christian last weekend. I give God all the glory in showing me 'the truth' about what JW's call 'the truth' and for the justification and regeneration we receive through the intercession of christ and his shed blood. The one thing I want to point out in regards to this video is that the JW's no longer view Russell's "Studies in the Scriptures" as authoritative. They consider their old, out of print books and publications as "Old Light". THat said, they still subscribe to a works-based system of salvation clinging desperately to James 2 without understanding true grace. Thanks MIke for all that you've done to spread the Gospel and to shine a light on the darkness that enslaves so many who think they know Christ but in reality only know the doctrines of men. God Bless you and your family.
So how is James 2 to be understood?
@MrMore5450 agreed! They are lazy and fear Man.
Also, remember last week’s study? It was clarified what “works of law” meant in relation to faith, vs “works of faith”. Such a great reminder!!
@MrMore5450 absolutely. It was one of the most meaningful study topics in a while. Really appreciated it being produced for us! Agape!
A number of years ago I was living in Leeds and I knocked on a door to share the gospel. The man who opened the door was a JW elder. And I would go and talk to him each week. He would try to take me off the subject, but I would do my best to share Jesus with him. I wasn't very good at doing it. Then after a few visits I was moving to London. So I lost contact with him. Thank you to both of you for sharing how you would do it, I wish I had had that training those years ago.
Throughout the entire Bible, God has always had chosen individuals to guide the rest of the body (ancient Israel and first-second century AD Christians). Among the those taking the lead, there were also others with privileges but not elders or overseers. It's all in Gods Word. God has always had a "governing body." It's all very obvious and simple, just read the Christian Scriptures carefully. What these 'leaders' said, went, or else false Christians were dismissed from the congregation, and from Israel. It has always been like that because God is holy and doesn't allow for disunity and self to be part of his Earthly kingdom. It's all in Gods Word. Jehovah God is eternal, he was not created. So, everything that was created (clearly that leaves God out) came through Jesus. Jesus was the foreman, the General manager, etc. It stuns me that you people can't see or understand this very simple and obvious reasoning backed up by Gods word. "they changed the Bible..."? Excuse yourselves, but every Bible out there was made erroneously. What JWs did is put Gods name, Jehovah, back into it correctly and properly. The rest of the small but important changes were done because they came to find more and more correct information as the decades went by, "The Dead Sea Scrolls" is one fine example, where Gods name is found some seven thousand times, all in praise worthy ways. Punctuation and some adverbs and conjunctions were not used in ancient Hebrew: they properly corrected those inconveniences. Matthew 28:19, 20 says "Go...make disciples of peoples of ALL the nations..." and Matthew 24:14 says "this good news of the kingdom WILL be preached in ALL the inhabited Earth, for a witness to ALL the nations..." That means that because Gods people have always been unified, 'of same mind, of same heart, of same spirit,' the good news must mean everyone in Gods Earthly organization must believe the same message. You guys are funny how you refuse these very obvious truths. It's "universally known by scholars this [The New world Translation] is not a good translation." The world surely is in the grip of Satans hands. Jesus and his followers were called a cult back then, they were laughed at, they were mocked, by the world of common people and religious people. The same back then, the same today in "the last days." Daniel 12:7-10 describes you guys, that you wont understand because you choose not to, and that in the last days Gods people will return. Isaiah 2:2-4 backs that up, that pure worship would return in the last days. Acts 15:14-18 backs that it up, too. And many, many more Scriptures. Gods name will be in the name of his people. You guys choose to ignore these very basic but life-saving truths. Jesus did die for ever as a human being: he did "the will of God" and "accomplished" what he was sent to do. Jesus will now and eternally be a spirit being, as he was before he came to Earth. It's in Gods word. It is true that they have made some errors, but they FIX their errors, unlike every, and that means all other religions, who don't fix their many errors. JWs make progress, just as Israel and first century AD Christians were. God does have a chosen people, and Jews deny Jesus so it can not possibly be them. The Scriptures I posted above identifies JWs as Gods chosen people. You can bash and trash them, but it makes them very, very happy because they do it all for God and Jesus. their lives are secondary. It is all Scriptural. "The Great Tribulation" is without fail coming. "I am Jehovah, and I am a God exacting exclusive devotion" states God. First and second century Christians were being mocked, harassed, beaten, imprisoned, persecuted, tortured and murdered, for "abstaining from blood," for abstaining from having idols of ANY sort, for abstaining from all holidays and such festivities, and for peaching and teaching the good news of Gods kingdom relentlessly. Acts 6:-7 was written for a reason (the case of Stephen), as are all Scriptures (2 Timothy 3:16, 17). They didn't pray to saints. They used Gods name. They were, as this dude in the video belittles JWs for doing today, an isolated, "insulated" people, Gods chosen people. When this system ends, JWs will move on into the paradise Earth God has promised, and will live as perfect beings on it for ever and ever. Those who ignored Jehovah and his message, will unfortunately pass away for ever and be forever forgotten. It's all in Gods word. You can nit pick JWs, but the truth, as I just proved the video a lie or deceptive, is with JWs. They are Gods people.
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The people who call themselves “Jehovah’s Witnesses” are well known for their efforts to spread their doctrines. In 2001, they claimed they conducted five million studies with people in their homes. It is sad that those who work so hard are teaching false doctrines instead of the truth.
The sect known as “Jehovah’s Witnesses” had its beginning in the late 1800’s with a man named Charles Taze Russell. Russell taught Christ would return to the earth in 1914. The fact that He did not return proved Russell was a false prophet (Deuteronomy 18:21,22); (Matthew 24:36-51).
Charles T. Russell began an organization to spread his ideas. It is called The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. Since this organization began, they have distributed more than one billion tracts and books, promoting the doctrines of Russell and those who followed him.
When Russell died, J. F. “Judge” Rutherford became the new leader of the Watchtower Society. Russell’s followers began calling themselves “Jehovah’s Witnesses” under Rutherford’s leadership. In 1920, he wrote a book called Millions Now Living Will Never Die. In this book he taught those who were faithful to God would be resurrected in 1925. It never happened! Rutherford, like Russell, was proved to be a false prophet (Deuteronomy 18:21,22)! Rutherford died of cancer in 1942. Since that time, this organization has grown greatly. According to their own claims, there were more than six million “Jehovah’s Witnesses” in the worl
@@markuse3472 if anyone truly knew the right path, then they would've needed Jesus to have come, to die for our sins.
Just look at most Christians? They never truly put their faith in the creator through his son Jesus who said no one is good but the father in heaven.
Yet people disagree on how to be a Christian, they see faults in other people's belief's but not their own.
Why would any Christian accept a vaccine? Yet they accept all sorts of vaccines, then they don't understand they can't serve two God's, but most do.
They accept the mark by being numbered, you look at any form of registration, they accept a number, whether it's on a driving licence, birth certificate, death certificate, inland revenue, national insurance number, medical card, passport, etc.
They are all Man-made, even using their coinage, who did Jesus say when holding a coin and say whose face is on this? He knew, but wanted that man to answer him, and what was his reply?.
We are not perfect, that is why the father in heaven, the creator, knew we were all sinners, and we get to be easily fooled.
Just look at language, people accept their surname, look up in any etymology dictionary the meaning of that word along with many more that are rooted in Latin.
People don't even know capitalise lettering whether it's uppercase, lowercase or a mixture of both, doesn't conform to any known language that can be read, why?
The Chicago manual style of English will inform you, it's written for the illiterate, it's called sign language
Signs are symbols, which are pictures, which are marks, are all Man-made, yet most people even Christians don't see them for what they're, the Chicago manual style of English will tell you they are ASL American sign language, mostly used by the deaf or mute.
Yet we see them everywhere, they're the language of corporations, there's one above every business, and most churches are registered businesses, even if they are not for profit.
Those first Christians understood, and never accepted the mark, even if it meant being thrown to the lions, they wouldn't accept being registered.
They had their faith in the Lord God, through the Messiah, and understood that you can't serve to masters.
I don't fully understand the Amish belief, but they live simply, that they believe that God has a personal and abiding interest in their lives.
They live in private and not public, they plant their crops and have faith in the good Lord to give them what they need when they need it, it's called faith.
They probably still record birth, death, etc in their family Bible, and not with the authorities.
What did the first Christians do? Them apostles, when becoming disciples? Going from students to becoming teachers, they either sold or gave away their possessions, and gave them to the poor.
If we all took a leaf out of that book, no one would be wanting for anything, if only the Christians did that, that is what Jesus taught us to do.
We are all being deceived in one way or another, through wickedness and we know who is behind that, none of us is perfect, if only we were?
A lot of it is done with the trickery of language, people should arm themselves with fully understanding whatever Bible they believe in, understanding what correct grammar of the language they are using, so as not to be sweetened with honeyed words, that mislead you by not knowing what is grammatically correct by not answering for the legal fiction (man-made) name called a person.
As written in Act 10:34 (King James Version of the Bible)
34: Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, of a truth, I perceive that God is no respecter of persons.
Peter gain the knowledge that the word person was an assumed character, man-made, artificial entity.
Person (n.) Directly from Latin persona "human being, person, personage; a part in a drama, assumed character," originally " a mask, a false face," such as those of wood or clay wore by actors in later Roman theatre (etymology dictionary).
Just in case you're wondering, I do not conform to any know organised church other than what Jesus preached, yet one of my brother's, my two sisters, five nephews and three nieces are Jehovah's witnesses, and so was my mother before she died.
I know I have my faults, and see many in most other people, do you? Or any other Christian reading this?
As in life, it's there to be lived, the creator gave us life to be free, the freedom of free will, and in the end, we all have to account for ourselves on the day of judgement.
We will be speaking for ourselves, no one else can speak for us, we all walk the path, but is it the right path?
Never allow yourself to be deceived by anyone, think for yourself and come to your understanding of what is truth.
I question myself all the time, yet I know my flaws, most Christians don't, they lack all-around knowledge of the real world, it's not just what is written.
The fallen one knows the father plan, he's far more intelligent with the knowledge and knows how to use our weaknesses against us, we all need to be on our guard, forever watchful.
@@peterthompson6651 On your first paragraph. Read Daniel 12:7-12, Isaiah 2:2-4; Acts 15:14-18 and Acts 6-7, Stephens account. These Scriptures were written for a reason. ALL The Bible was written so "the men of God may be FULLY equipped for every good work" --(read) 2 Timothy 3:16, 17. Jesus said "give to Caesar the things belonging to Caesar, but Gods things to God." The entire Christian Scriptures tells us to obey the laws of the land because is God who has placed them in their places. Gods word says his people will be "of the same mind, same heart, same spirit." God has always had a unified people under his name because he is a God of order. Read The Christian Scriptures. In the first century AD there already some who were believing in The Messiah but were doing things their way and both Jesus and the apostles afterwards, warned true Christians to kick them out and remove them, to stay away from them. There were Jews, Greeks, Romans, and others from other nations, who were trying to mix in their former ideas and practices along with what Jesus taught and that was not at all acceptable to them: they wrote to be rid of such people if they didn't want to change.
Second paragraph. I'll get back to you soon and finish my response, it's late and I have to go to sleep.
@@markuse3472 Jesus said, in Matthew 22:20-22,
20 And saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?
21 They say unto him Caesar's Then saith he unto them, Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar; and unto God the things that are God's.
22 when they had heard these words, they marvelled, and left him, and went their way.
You misunderstand what those scriptures are telling you, if you were to take a look at an etymology dictionary, you would have a greater understanding of those words, like "image and superscription".
Image (n.) C. 1200, "piece of statuary, an artificial representation that looks like a person or thing," from Old French image "image, likeness; figure, drawing, portrait, reflection; statue," earlier imagine (11c.), From Latin imagine (nominative imago) " copy, imitation, likeness, statue, picture,"
Person (n.) Directly from Latin persona "human being, person, personage; a part in a drama assumed character," originally "a mask, a false face," such as those of wood or clay wore by actors in later Roman theatre.
Then you go on to say obey the "law of the land," in the book of Genesis 1:9, it tells us who created that land, and in Exodus 20 it tells us who's laws to follow, and in Acts 10:34 it tells us God as no respect for people who take from Caesar, and play both sides, and in Matthew 22:20-22, it tells us to Render to Caesar what is Caesar.
Superscription (n.) Late 14c., From Latin superscription (nominative superscription) "a writing above,"
You have to understand what the words you're reading mean by their definitions, you have to all-round knowledge of the language, scriptures, law your using, most people don't realise they can be misinterpreted.
Do you know no language is written in capitalise lettering, whether it's uppercase or lowercase or a mixture of both, no language?
What manual style of English are you using for your grammar?
For instance, it tells those who take a look at the Chicago manual style of English, it's the language of the illiterate because the only other people who use it are either mute or deaf, it's called ASL (American sign language) That is how they communicate with each other.
If you gave someone illiterate a written message, to the direction to go somewhere, they wouldn't understand, now if you used "sign," using arrows, picture, they are more likely to get to that destination.
If you want to be in the book of life, stop serving Caesar, and give yourself to the Lord God the creator, and stop being numbered by Caesar, eventually, this knowledge will be lost as written in Amos 8:11-13
11 behold the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord.
12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.
13 In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for thirst.
My aunt became one back in the 50's, we loved her but dreaded her coming to family gatherings, where she would start into it. I loved my cousins, but it seemed like something was wrong with them. It became only funerals and weddings they came to in later years, she passed a few years ago, now mom is gone, and several of them are now former JW's. Thanks for the video Mike.
Yes..,(sigh) they tend to DO THAT
MY SISTER IN LAW😞
However, when some leave JW..they don't become Christians right away
😂😂😂😂every time these JW came to our gate / Doors knocking we would run away and close up the house
Ever wondered why people leave the confused churches and become JWs? John 8:31,32.
@@jimjuri6490 I would say Jesus is not confusing at all.
The Unbelief of the Jews
… John 8:58 ►
(Aramaic Bible in Plain English)
Yeshua said to them: “Timeless truth I speak to you: Before Abraham would exist, I AM THE LIVING GOD. "John 10:29My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are one.” 31At this, the Jews again picked up stones to stone Him.…32But Jesus responded, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone Me?” …33“We are not stoning You for any good work,” said the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God.”…
All Scripture is inspired of God+ and beneficial for teaching,+ for reproving, for setting things straight,+ for disciplining in righteousness,+
An old preacher I knew was prepared for the JW's. When they came to the door he would get out a document, read it to them, and ask if they believed what it said. They always said "absolutely not." Then he would tell them it was their older material. I never got a copy of it but it may have had something about the deity of Christ. Apparently, their false doctrine has changed over the years and they worked the inconsistencies out of it.
Not all of them.
@lary Snw - LOL! lary, your post above - like all the rest of them - is pure and simple falsehood. The JWs have a false, unbiblical Christ and a false unbiblical way of salvation and multiple other falsehoods. You've been openly challenged on this board to defend your statements and beliefs, and the ONLY response is that you run away EVERY SINGLE TIME.
@lary Snw JWs believe in "new light" to smooth over old inconsistencies. The much older publications are hilarious and products of the time
The path of the righteous is getting brighter and brighter Proverbs 4:18. Even the 12 disciples had wrong expectation of what was going to happen,at first, LUKE 19:11; 24:21
@Phil Blohm Sr.
What is the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
The “church” adopted pagan beliefs, started celebrating pagan holidays, created an hierarchy in the “church”, got involved in politics, and sought power to control people for centuries. All of that is contrary to what Jesus taught would identify his people.
Even “Christians” who are not Catholic still mostly follow the pagan doctrines adopted by the “church” like the trinity. Most of them still celebrate pagan holidays and try to claim they’re Christian holidays. They’ll have Easter Sunday but what is the origin of Easter? They celebrate Christmas, but what is the origin of Christmas? They get involved in politics and go to war, even with countries that have people of the same religion.
Ask yourself honestly if any of that behavior reflects the “fine fruit” that Jesus said would identify his people.
John 13:35 says Jesus disciples would be known by the love they have for one another.
Matthew 7:15-20 shows you will recognize people by the fruits they produce. Were the crusades “fine fruits”, or a quest for power? Is supporting worldly governments and sending your parishioners to the military “fine fruits”? Is accepting unmarried fornicators into your church so you can get the membership fees “fine fruits”.
John 17:14-16; John 15:19; and John 18:36 shows Jesus Kingdom and his people are “no part of this world”. What Christian religion today does not get involved in politics or support their people joining the military? What group of Christians today does not celebrate holidays that are widely accepted by the rest of the “world” but have known pagan or political origins? What group of people today produce “fine fruits” with a worldwide brotherhood that demonstrates genuine love? There is only one, Jehovah’s Witnesses.
What religion today continues to examine the Bible and adjust to what is learned instead of sticking to false teachings which were developed by the Catholic Church, influenced by Greek philosophies and pagan beliefs and forced on people through much controversy by political decree? Only Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Examine the Bible for yourself. Do the research in legitimate sources like encyclopedias, not blogs or the internet, and think for yourself instead of joining the masses, adopting what is popular or widely accepted.
Having trouble finding the interlinear on the JW library app. Just had a couple come to my door and I would like to better prepared next time, ( 2 Timothy 2:15) Able to give an account in and out of season. Thank you. Does anyone have a link for the physical copy as well.❤
If you want to handle the truth aright, don't believe Winger or the trinity or pagan celebrations.
Hi. Mark/StretchMn is a JW and that's the reason for his post.
I would recommend that you go to places such as the Christian Apologetics and Resource (or Research) Society and look over the articles there.
@@StretchMn "If you want to handle the truth aright, don't believe Winger or the trinity or pagan celebrations."
Do believe Winger, the trinity, and Christian celebrations.
So glad to hear this. Sat next to a JW on a plane for hours as i was flying to check out a seminary. Interesting conversation and definitely needed to explore their beliefs more. This helps mike! Thanks for helping! Blessings!
Former jw here it's always interesting to hear other viewpoints if you have any questions I'm here to answer them
My sister became a JW in her mid twenties. She craved the sense of "community" and belonging which they surely provided. HOWEVER, this community was/is largely confined to their JW network alone. At my nieces (sister's daughter's) high school graduation, my sister invited me to a celebration gathering-comprised almost exclusively of their JW friends. When it was "found out" that I was a family member and NOT a JW, the room suddenly fell silent. Of course, I didn't ask them why but I knew...
@larysnw418 can only report on what i saw.
...am not JW. I don't believe in most of their doctrines. However, they are everything but one thing: they are very loving people. I have been to vert racist countries but the most loving community will always be the JW community. They are nice people. BUT for their doctrines, which I don't agree with
Thank you.
I am sorry my name is Josephine it's me who commented not Joseph ,Joseph is my son and my you tube it's under his name I am one of Jehovah's witnesses let the Almighty God be the judge 🙏🙏
I was raised a JW by my father but wanted no parts of religion or their beliefs. That being said they are some of the nicest people on this planet. Always respectful and kind. I have been to numerous parties/events with a majority being JWs and even though they know I don’t agree they have always been respectful of my beliefs and never once tried to conform me or treat me any different
I was a JW for 24 years of my 29 year life. You destroyed my entire (previous) belief so strongly I feel rough even though I don't believe it anymore. A knife through butter comes to mind. Out of the many, many good points you made, the one that sticks to me is when you mentioned how so much of their belief actually is based in devotion to the leadership and the '8 men' essentially. If you can break that, you have half a chance actually having an open conversation with a JW.
Very true. Consider the following statement that was written by the Watchtower:
*”From time to time, there have arisen from among the ranks of Jehovah's people those, who, like the original Satan, have adopted an independent, faultfinding attitude...They say that it is sufficient to read the Bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home. But, strangely, through such 'Bible reading,' they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendom's clergy were teaching 100 years ago..."* The Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1981.
So - according to this statement, if you only read the Bible, you will believe in things such as the Deity of Christ because that is exactly what the Watchtower is referring to here when it says "apostate doctrines." In other words, *if you read the Bible by itself you will not arrive at Watchtower doctrines.* This is an amazing admission by the JW masters. They are doing nothing less than flat out admitting that Jehovah's Witnesses do not get their teachings from the Bible, but from the JW masters in the Watchtower literature.
@@jamesritter5078 True JW do not only read the Bible, THEY ALSO STUDY IT!!! I don't know were you ripped this out of context, but there is no page or title. No one reads the Bible and doesn't need help understanding it Read:Acts8:30,31"Do you actually know what you are reading?"He said: "Really, how could I ever do so unless someone guided me?"
@@jerrychacon8814 LOL! Your posts have proven REPEATEDLY that you don't study the Bible - You only have eyes and ears for the dictations of your JW masters. As for Acts 8, it's easy to understand that: The man didn't know about Christ and so Philip told him. And the Christ that Philip told him about was the BIBLICAL Christ Philip personally knew and not the false, unbiblical Christ of the JWs. The quote says what it says, and you can't do anything about it: The JW masters have _admitted in writing_ that *a person will not arrive at JW beliefs by reading the Scriptures - They will arrive at Christian beliefs.*
Regarding Philip and Christ - Here is John 14:8-9: 8 Philip said to him: “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9 Jesus said to him: “Even after I have been with you men for such a long time, Philip, have you not come to know me? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How is it you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
Question: Who is "the Father"? What/Who is being referred to by that phrase?
Obvious Answer: God Himself. Considering the context of who and what Philip is - a Jew - There is no other honest way to understand the phrase in Philip's request. This is not refutable.
Jesus, knowing full well who and what Philip is and the only possible meaning to his request, straightforwardly tells Philip, "If you've seen Me, you've seen Him. If you've seen me, you've seen God Himself." There is no other honest way to take that answer.
Jesus Christ openly declares that seeing Him = Seeing God Himself.
He made the same open declaration in John 12:45.
JWs say that Jesus is Michael the archangel. No, that doesn't work, and it doesn't work BIG TIME. Here's why that's true:
Michael's name means "Who Is Like God?"
Obvious answer: NO ONE.
There is NO way that Michael would have made the claim for himself that Jesus makes in verse 9. He would have been...
a) going directly against the meaning of his own name, and
b) committing blasphemy.
Add to this the fact that there is no verse in the Bible that states that Jesus is really Michael.
Add to this the fact that Michael would NEVER receive for himself the declaration of Thomas in John 20:28.
And there are _plenty_ of other Scriptures that show and prove the Deity of Christ.
Thanks for bringing up Philip, Jerry. You yourself have helped prove that JWs don't really study the Bible. If they _did_ they would very, very easily see what it says.
@@jamesritter5078Jesus is not Jehovah. Jesus always, always taught by illustration Matthew 13:34 Mark 4:34'with out an illustration he would not speak to them' an illustration is a symbolic, metaphorical use of teaching were you have to find the meaning, dig for it search. You read but you will not know the true meaning or the sacred secrets. You don't understand.
@@jerrychacon8814 LOL! There is NOTHING AT ALL that's "illustration" or "symbolic" or "metaphysical" in the open, clear declarations of Christ in John 14:8-9 and 12:24 or _numerous_ other Scriptures. In order for you to say that's what's happening, you have to first have that idea as an already preconceived conclusion that you intentionally read into the text in order to dishonestly force/pervert the text to your already preconceived conclusion. That is simply honest. But is DOES show very well just how JWs "study" the Bible. Thanks for showing that so openly. Oh, and nice TOTAL AVOIDANCE of the Scriptures in my previous post. It was NOT unexpected.
One of my proudest moments as a Christian was inviting JWs into my home. We talked about their theology for quite some time. After about an hour, they had to go. I literally outtalked a pair of JWs.
You are just as wrong as they are 😂. A god that does not manifest in reality is indistinguishable from a god that does not exist. Until God reveals himself or there is clear and obvious physical evidence presented, there is no good reason to believe in him.
@@tobias4411 God did manifest in reality. He has made himself known. There is clear physical evidence presented. You just choose not to accept it or believe it.
@@brushylake4606 A contradiction already. If there were irrefutable proof, or clear physical evidence it wouldn't be a religious faith. Faith doesn't require evidence; it involves believing without it. If there were irrefutable proof that Christianity was correct and God was real, everyone would be a Christian. In that case, Christians wouldn't have faith because it would simply be a fact.
There is no evidence, and you know it, because you have faith.
If you claim there is, show it to me.
@@sovo94 Exactly what is nonsense in my post? Be specific.
Most JWs have very busy lives. It is a sacrifice making the time to go out. Most of us work regular 40 hour weeks at a regular job
Hi Mike and everyone! God bless you so much Mike for these videos. I can see your effort you put in them with passion and from your heart. Honestly, you are helping me learn about JW's so much and I need this because my next door neighbour of nearly 2 years are close friends of mine for just over 1 year now and it's been really tough for me during our discussions on the Bible together to prove to her the right way is Jesus and to explain the Trinity to her. I realised that I can't continue discussing further with her until I properly study the Bible more myself and get a better understanding of how to preach to JW's. It's so sad and it really upsets me how they have such a veil on their eye's and how they think they are the chosen children of God :( Anyway, I pray and believe Jesus Christ will unveil their eyes soon, so thank you for your videos and I thank God for you as your such a blessing. GBU!
If you study the scriptures you'll see how wrong the trinity is
Use their own Bible. Isaiah 9:6 New World Translation (JW bible)
For a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us; And the rulership will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, *Mighty God, Eternal Father,* Prince of Peace.
(the very next chapter speaking of God) Isaiah 10:21 Only a remnant will return,The remnant of Jacob, to the *Mighty God.*
God in Mighty God used for Jesus in Isaiah 9:6 is the same as God for Mighty God in Isaiah 10:21 (Hebrew el)
Luke 8:39 NWT (JW bible) “Go back home, and keep on relating what God did for you.” So he went away, proclaiming throughout the whole city what Jesus had done for him.
"Now the Lord ("Jehovah" in JW's bible) is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." 2 Corinthians 3:17
Do let up. Keep asking them how many God's are there? Is Jesus a false God? Don't let them change the subject. The bible calls Jesus a "Mighty God", their own Bible. Either Jesus is God or a false God. It works out poorly for them either way.
@@wylolister3218 Again, 1 Cor. 8:5,6 says there are many called gods, but actually to us one God, and it is the Father.
So while many are called gods, there is one we worship.
Like Jesus himself told us at Mt. 4:10 and Jo. 17:3. Did Jesus lie? If course not!
God, lord, father, son, shepherd, Savior, king, etc are titles, and apply to many. None of that makes them all God.
Instead of using man-made philosophies, use the scriptures.
Jesus never once called himself the God, but he did call Jehovah the only true God. And Jehovah called himself the only God, many times.
@@wylolister3218 Luke 8:39 Your understanding of this Scripture is narrow minded. Here there are two different points of view. First, Jesus gives credit to the one who gave Jesus the authority to expel demons so Jesus gave credit to the Father.
The formerly demon possessed man related what he experienced, that Jesus expelled the demons, he is not calling Jesus God.
2 Cor, 3:17 Why did you leave out the second occurrence of "Jehovah" and change it to Lord? So you can try to prove something that isn't there? You want it to appear that Jesus is Jehovah, which he isn't, so you prove nothing.
@@StretchMn Jesus never once used the name "jehovah". Even JWs call "jehovah" a "misspelled & mispronounced" name for God, they even produced literature calling it a "blunder". "Yahweh . .. is admittedly superior to Jehovah. *'The wrong spelling Jehovah* occurs since about 1100' and then it offers its arguments in favor of Yahweh as the correct and original pronunciation." - Let Your Name Be Sanctified, Jehovah's Witnesses, p 16-20 (JW literature)
(JW literature) AID TO BIBLE UNDERSTANDING 1971 Watchtower and Bible Tract Society p884-885 - literature elaborates as to its Catholic origin in 1270:
By combining the vowel signs of 'Adho.nay and 'Elo.him' with the four consonants of the Tetragrammaton the pronunciations Yeho.wah' and Yehowih' were formed. The first of these provided the basis for the Latinized form "Jehova(h)." The first recorded use of this form dates from the thirteenth century C.E. Raymundus Martini, a Spanish monk of the Dominican Order, used it in his book Pugeo Fidei of the year 1270. *Hebrew scholars generally favor "Yahweh" as the most likely pronunciation.*
"jehovah" = misspelled, mispronounced name for God! A false name.
The only way to get rid of a false name for God is to quit using it.
They published a "worldy" Bible that says the name Jehovah was a "blunder." See JWs own Byington Bible in Living English, published by WBTS (1971ish), page 7, on your WT Library CD (this is in the intro so is conveniently been left off the JW dot Org website). (thanks Lee)
*"As to the Old Testament name of God, certainly the spelling and pronunciation "Jehovah" were originally a blunder."*
God wants his name to be known as a "blunder'? Seriously?
JW produced literature calls it wrong, misspelled, mispronounced and a blunder, seriously a "blunder"!!!
Mike is a solid dude. Awesome video and cool to see God’s work in you. Also think it’s awesome defending JW as people when they’re mistreated at peoples’ doors. Keep up the good work brother.
Mike if you could answer it’d be great:) why do you not see Calvinism as a primary issue. I came out of Calvinism after 17 years two years ago and am having such a hard time not seeing it as a primary issue, but my pastors snd friends see it as secondary....I am at a loss and do not want to be divisive, but I cannot reconcile how me thinking “anyone can be saved” vs. “no, only a select few can be” is secondary!!! So much more I could share, but I’ll stop there. Thank you!
I think it’s because, despite soteriological differences, Calvinists agree that all and any who believe will be saved by grace alone, through faith alone, in Jesus Christ alone.
Edit: Sorry that I’m not Mike, but hopefully this answer helps.
The source of Grace is the 3 PAGAN GODESSES it is better to be saved by undeserved kindness ? ? ?
Mike Winger You mentioned how slow the Jehovah's Witnesses walk going from door to door and found it rather amusing.
Unfortunately when Jesus sent out the 70 disciples there is no record of what speed they were walking between houses.
Probably it would be best to compare the speed of Jehovah's Witnesses preaching door to door with other denominations doing something similar.
Well, that didn't take long, there are no denominations preaching door to door to any comparative degree, which is quite concerning considering what Jesus said at Matt 24:14
"This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come."
Who then is preaching this good news of the kingdom worldwide and more importantly are they doing this at a fairly fast pace?
As a former Catholic I know they do not generally preach from door to door.
Surely the Evangelical church members would be preaching door to door considering their name means "Good News" (Gospel)? Apparently not.
Same with any other denomination that I am aware of and if they do are they preaching the good news of Gods kingdom? Are you Mike?
You said that your pace when giving out leaflets door to door is about 20 times quicker than the the speed of the Jehovah's Witnesses. If they adopted that pace they would be at your door every week.
Jesus said there would be a great preaching work to be done on this planet, that is a prophecy by our Lord. If there is another group out there doing this then they are doing it much slower than the Jehovah's Witnesses are as they have not reached my house yet.
Matt 24:14 was fulfilled in the first century.
All JWs do is recruit. Same as Mormons.
Think of all the old light JWs have spread throughout the world. Old light is false teachings. It's not old truth. It's false. And it's insane. That's why the governing body conceals the older publications from the cultists.
All JWs have accomplished is spreading false teachings more than anyone else on the planet. Not something to be proud of.
A small deadly example of jw false teachings is when then banned organ transplants for a decade. How many died for that false teaching?
Disgusting child abuse hiding, deadly cult. Period.
What JWs preach is a false, unbiblical Christ and a false, unbiblical way of salvation. And there are many other falsehoods.
@@ramrod576 You said "Matt 24:14 was fulfilled in the first century. "
Oh... So, Armageddon already came? Good to know. 🙄
@@jamesritter5078 You said "unbiblical way of salvation."
You mean like how JW believe repentance is necessary for salvation? Do you believe that is "unbiblical"?
@@777Tralfaz777 the end of the Jewish system of thing. Yes. I thought JWs did away with types and antitypes.
Latter Day Saint here: Glad you made this video for JWs. Please do one for us!
Are you serious? If so you honestly don't need a video on it, just having a conversation with you and a solid bible, I would love to talk to you about it so you can see the full truth of the word of God
Most of my family are JW and they all live good life’s with there families none of them are on drugs none of them are in prison because they follow the true god…
@@JesusChristSaves. I think you misunderstood the comment. Nevertheless, if all you have is the Bible, you do not have the full truth of the word of God.
@@Dan_Gleebalz brother the comment I responded to is not there anymore...
@@Dan_Gleebalz there was someone else that commented that was mocking it, not the main comment
Thank you so much for your work!
My best friend of 8 years is a JW. I love him and have been trying to witness to him.
My best friend/ my brother of 20 years is a JW. We get along great but we just never talk about his belief and I always hid when I celebrate a birthday or anything. I feel horrible because he is one of the most honest people I have ever met. But the theology I just doesn’t make sense
@@TroyUcf the pain is real. By worldly accounts, my friend is a total saint, and a good little JW. He’s a wonderful person.
Thankfully, he’s always enjoyed talking about the Bible with me. We’ve gotten to the point where he knows I consider him part of a heretical cult, and that I am trying to convert him, but he understands that I’m coming from a heart of love.
Additionally, he kind of figured out that I liked him last year. Now we’re very much in love, but we can’t marry because we’ll be unevenly yolked. So, I kind of have a double incentive for reaching him, but regardless, he is still my best friend and I’m worried about his eternal destination.
@@TroyUcf you have to look at it as a big picture. Also, he sounds like a nice guy. I try to be that way to. Honest and honorable. Just thinking about Jehovah witnesses is that they don’t hurt anyone. Just live your life the way you want to live it no one’s forcing you to be in the religion or what not.
@@Jestloo I mean most of us are in Cults by definition. The question should be what cult are you in? For example, if you follow a streamer or you’re in a group. Like the LTBTQ, those guys can be considered as a cult by definition. So yea. About everyone by definition is a cult nowadays.
@@rob_7775 JW's do hurt people when they shun their own family members or restrict their children from pursing their own career or passion. They also hurt people when they utilize internal beliefs that may restrict medical care.
They also have a US vs THEM mentality focusing their ideas that anyone not in the organization will be destroyed by God. That doesn't seem very "good Samaritan".
Great works brothers.
Allen I always admired you and Mikes work on this matters
I was raised JW & honestly couldn’t wait to get out as I was promised I wouldn’t have to go anymore once I turned 18. There were so many questions as a kid I never got answers too. It was confusing for me. I never heard 90% of the information in this video. The only thing that always bothered me was limiting association with anybody outside of the JW organization. Yet the kindest sweetest people I’ve ever met were not in the JW.
Did your questions have to do with how you could lead a worldly life?
@@StretchMn as a kid? Yeah that was exactly it. You used all your big boy brain cells for that comment I see!
@sierrawilliams5982 Well, makes sense, since you said you couldn't wait to leave once you turned 18. Right?
As, "a kid," What questions could you have and be confused about?
@@StretchMnWorldly life?
Thank you for this. It just popped up today in my random YT home feed. A couple days ago someone asked me about JW, I responded, but no where near the summary you have provided and have forwarded this to that person.
For myself, if JW got the Yod-Hey-Vav-Hey wrong, it is down hill from there.
Bless YHWH and YHWH bless you.
@John carlen
Jehovah's Witnesses were not the ones who translated the Tetragrammaton to English. Since it was already translated to English as Jehovah, they did use it in their English translation of the Bible.
That being said, what do you know about translation to make such a statement or have such a stand?
Also, pretty much everything in this video is false which I and others have proven with many scriptures in multiple threads.
@@watchman8644 the NWT is the worse translation of the Bible since the NIV. Do the homework.
John 8:58 - "I have been"
The Greek of this text is abundantly clear:
... πρὶν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι ἐγὼ εἰμί. = before Abraham became, "I Am".
The tense of the last two words is simple present tense and CANNOT be translated (as per NWT) "I have been", which is a version of the past tense. It is simply bad translation. As someone with a one year study of Greek/Latin/Italian, yes, this is just awful. So corrupt and adjusted for motives of men.
in the end times there would be doctrines of devil's and many would be deceived
God bless you!
We knew a JW who told us about the 144000 and said he knew he was not one of the 144000 but will stay behind on earth to teach the lost like we were. We did not get into an argument and shortly after that episode the offer was made to come and teach us the truth and without rancour on our side we simply said "no thank you, we know the truth" and ended the friendship.
@Roma Scott
What is the truth?
@@watchman8644
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
John 14:6
@Tasha Joykin
Correct, Jesus is our mediator. 1 Timothy 2:5 tells us “There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Jesus Christ.”
Jesus is the way to get to know his God and Father, Jehovah.
@@watchman8644 doesn't the organization teach that Jesus is only mediator for the 144,000? That seems odd because in the Bible it says ....
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
it says between God and men (mankind) there doesn't seem be any restriction in that verse. In context before that we see "who desires *all men* to be saved" and after we read "who gave Himself a ransom for *all* "
Jesus is mediator for ALL men (mankind) who are saved
@Seth Vernon
Correct, Jesus is the mediator between God and all of mankind.
I think where you’re getting confused on JW beliefs is that the new covenant Jesus made is with the apostles (Luke 22:20; 1 Corinthians 11:25; Hebrews 12:24) was for for those anointed to be part of Spiritual Israel. Revelation 7:3-8 shows those would total 144,000 people.
Revelation 7:9-10 shows another group, outside of those anointed to heaven. What is their hope, if not to go to heaven?
Psalms 37:11&29 tells us that for the majority, our future is to live forever on the earth, just as God originally purposed.
Seriously, Pastor Mike… WELL DONE. You absolutely nailed everything.
I was raised JW, and I’m really impressed. Also, this was handled with love. I wish I could get my mom to watch your “pagan channel”.
😂 🤦🏻♀️
I couldn't get my sister in law to neither..
She's been married 50 years to a husband who never went inside one
Psalms 83:18 Exodus 3:15 Jehovah is God's Glorious, Majestic name for eternity. The Almighty Father of Jesus. John 1: 14, 18 1 Peter 1:3 Colossians 1:3 John 6:57,58 Matthew 6:9,10 Matthew 17: 17 John 17:3 Revelation 3:12
Jesus is our Lord. Our Head and Leader as Christians
1 Corinthians 3:23 and 11:3
@@patchooo84 Ed, JWs aren't Christians. Neither are you.
@@jamesritter5078 JWs are Pre Catholic Christians....
You wouldn't understand jr
and yet its said how you readily accepted it without question
Hi! I only want to tell you about an incident that happened one night at my job as an RN. (but the text ended up way long!) One of my patients that night needed to have a Foley catheter placed, for whatever reason. I think it was because she couldn't pee on her own due to a UTI. In any case, she refused to allow me to insert one. In an hour or so, she was complaining that her discomfort was worsening. We weren't swamped that night so I went to her & we had a fairly long discussion. She told me that she was a JW & that placing a catheter up inside her BLADDER would keep her from entering Paradise, forever! I explained 9 ways 'til Sunday WHY the doctor ordered it & why it was necessary for her health & comfort, & that a Foley catheter has NOTHING to do with sexual behavior!! There's nothing dirty about it! Plus I had the MWS book Friends Are Friends..., essentially a topical Bible. I went through passage after passage from the aspect of several topics which could pertain to her situation. (I used that book at work so much that it began to fall apart! It was the perfect size to fit in a pocket of my scrub tops!) It took several hours for her to be in sufficient pain for her to finally agree, & to accept that placement of a medical device would NOT make her ineligible for Paradise! She felt such immediate relief! I was so thankful the Lord had used me & my little book to help this sweet little old lady! Little did I know that a few MORE hours later, near the end of that 12-hr shift, she was crying her eyes out, "because now I'll never be allowed into Paradise!!" Such a sad, but true, story! That was over 20 yrs ago, & my memory isn't so great anymore, but 75% or more of the detailed memory of that story is still as fresh as if it happened THIS MORNING! I don't understand HOW or WHY any "religious higher-up" would not only allow a member to deny anything to lessen pain & improve health, but essentially ORDER them to refuse that help! I realize that sometimes God allows us to go through hard times, but He doesn't say, "don't use those doctors & nurses whom *I* have called for just such a purpose! Don't use any of the "miraculous" treatments or devices that *I* led these professionals to find or invent! Just go ahead & hurt! Let it go untreated! Either way, you're gonna die one day anyway!" It reminds me of the guy whose boat is sinking & he can't swim, so he prays "God, save me!". In time a fisherman in a rowboat stops to rescue him, "no thanks, I'm waiting for God". Then a sporty cruiser stops, "no thanks..." lastly a big fancy yacht stops, but gets the same "no thanks..." the 1st two got. The man goes down for the last time & he comes to at the foot of the Throne & yells at God, "WHY didn't You save me? I prayed & had faith that YOU would save me! But You didn't!! WHY?? That would've been a great ending to my testimony!" God replied, "who do you think sent the rowboat, the cruiser, & the yacht?" JW's, & a few other denominations i know of & some I've worked with, sound an awful lot like this ungrateful man! Similarly a SDA new grad who said, "IDKY Y'all keep going on about "getting saved"! Jesus died for everyone, so everyone is saved!" You know, I may not understand EVERYTHING the Bible tells me, but I don't skip it, or worse change it, just b/c I don't understand! That's not a publishers-problem or a God-problem! That's a ME problem! And I need to "be a Berean", keep at it, read it, praying for wisdom, until I DO understand, or until God says I don't NEED to understand it, yet! BTW, if it matters, I am somewhere between S. Baptist & Independent Baptist. I knew nothing but SBC as a child & teen, before the organization became politicized! I live in the Buckle of the Bible Belt,
@larysnw418 I'm only telling you what the lady told me herself.
Jehovah’s Witnesses are in a blasphemous cult. I pray for their true salvation by grace alone, through faith alone.
“Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.” James 2:17
I left JW, but wasn't born in. Now Atheist 100%. Religion and the bible have stolen the first 38 years of my life. Wish I had woken up earlier.
@@brianp6859 Are you suggesting that salvation comes from works?
@@nathandelong7069 salvation comes from Christ’s sacrifice on the cross. However we must earn the honour to have those merits applied to us. This is done by following God’s law which Christ summarized: Love the Lord thy God with thy whole mind, body and soul and love they neighbour as thy self. We can believe in Christ all we want but unless we do God’s will as well in our day to day we will not merit heaven. If you believe and love Christ truly though the actions will follow almost on their own but you must still live a Christian life and we should always seek to me more Christ-like in our thoughts, words and actions.
@@brianp6859 Thanks for clarifying! I share the belief that good works should follow and be a sign of salvation, but good works alone won’t get you to heaven.
Faded JWs here.
Their focus is Governing Body which is no Biblical and Jesus is pushed out.
They mention Jesus but almost with whisper rather than using Jesus' name aloud.
Interesting...
@@khill4053
Governing Body got this idea that they are the ones God chose to communicate with people not Jesus as Bible clearly states in 1.Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.
@@bacomiric and they teach Jesus is mediator only for 144,000 (Security under Prince of Peace Chapter 1 paragraph 16) not for other sheep!
@@jimmmmy55
I am aware of that.
Think how every cult or sect print their own Bibles for the purpose of changing things in the Bible to fit their teachings.
Jesus came to Earth to teach us about God, and what he said was documented in the Bible, and the Governing Body reads the Bible, which is what Jesus said, so that way, they *are* listening to Jesus.
Allen REALLY contributed in this video!
Mike,
I have so enjoyed your video. I have been a Baptist since I was a week old. (I'm now 66). Finding out about other " religions" is so helpful. I want to know what others believe you can't witness to them if you don't know what they actually believe.
Thanks
Two of my favorite pastors teaching truth keep it coming thank you both so much for all you do
Throughout the entire Bible, God has always had chosen individuals to guide the rest of the body (ancient Israel and first-second century AD Christians). Among the those taking the lead, there were also others with privileges but not elders or overseers. It's all in Gods Word. God has always had a "governing body." It's all very obvious and simple, just read the Christian Scriptures carefully. What these 'leaders' said, went, or else false Christians were dismissed from the congregation, and from Israel. It has always been like that because God is holy and doesn't allow for disunity and self to be part of his Earthly kingdom. It's all in Gods Word. Jehovah God is eternal, he was not created. So, everything that was created (clearly that leaves God out) came through Jesus. Jesus was the foreman, the General manager, etc. It stuns me that you people can't see or understand this very simple and obvious reasoning backed up by Gods word. "they changed the Bible..."? Excuse yourselves, but every Bible out there was made erroneously. What JWs did is put Gods name, Jehovah, back into it correctly and properly. The rest of the small but important changes were done because they came to find more and more correct information as the decades went by, "The Dead Sea Scrolls" is one fine example, where Gods name is found some seven thousand times, all in praise worthy ways. Punctuation and some adverbs and conjunctions were not used in ancient Hebrew: they properly corrected those inconveniences. Matthew 28:19, 20 says "Go...make disciples of peoples of ALL the nations..." and Matthew 24:14 says "this good news of the kingdom WILL be preached in ALL the inhabited Earth, for a witness to ALL the nations..." That means that because Gods people have always been unified, 'of same mind, of same heart, of same spirit,' the good news must mean everyone in Gods Earthly organization must believe the same message. You guys are funny how you refuse these very obvious truths. It's "universally known by scholars this [The New world Translation] is not a good translation." The world surely is in the grip of Satans hands. Jesus and his followers were called a cult back then, they were laughed at, they were mocked, by the world of common people and religious people. The same back then, the same today in "the last days." Daniel 12:7-10 describes you guys, that you wont understand because you choose not to, and that in the last days Gods people will return. Isaiah 2:2-4 backs that up, that pure worship would return in the last days. Acts 15:14-18 backs that it up, too. And many, many more Scriptures. Gods name will be in the name of his people. You guys choose to ignore these very basic but life-saving truths. Jesus did die for ever as a human being: he did "the will of God" and "accomplished" what he was sent to do. Jesus will now and eternally be a spirit being, as he was before he came to Earth. It's in Gods word. It is true that they have made some errors, but they FIX their errors, unlike every, and that means all other religions, who don't fix their many errors. JWs make progress, just as Israel and first century AD Christians were. God does have a chosen people, and Jews deny Jesus so it can not possibly be them. The Scriptures I posted above identifies JWs as Gods chosen people. You can bash and trash them, but it makes them very, very happy because they do it all for God and Jesus. their lives are secondary. It is all Scriptural. "The Great Tribulation" is without fail coming. "I am Jehovah, and I am a God exacting exclusive devotion" states God. First and second century Christians were being mocked, harassed, beaten, imprisoned, persecuted, tortured and murdered, for "abstaining from blood," for abstaining from having idols of ANY sort, for abstaining from all holidays and such festivities, and for peaching and teaching the good news of Gods kingdom relentlessly. Acts 6:-7 was written for a reason (the case of Stephen), as are all Scriptures (2 Timothy 3:16, 17). They didn't pray to saints. They used Gods name. They were, as this dude in the video belittles JWs for doing today, an isolated, "insulated" people, Gods chosen people. When this system ends, JWs will move on into the paradise Earth God has promised, and will live as perfect beings on it for ever and ever. Those who ignored Jehovah and his message, will unfortunately pass away for ever and be forever forgotten. It's all in Gods word. You can nit pick JWs, but the truth, as I just proved the video a lie or deceptive, is with JWs. They are Gods people.
@@markuse3472
This is what Jehovah's witnesses did Paul said believe not ANY OTHER GOSPEL
Galatians 1:8-9
King James Version
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
@@markuse3472
Isaiah 9:6
King James Version
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Jesus was and is God in the flesh it's obvious if you don't go to the corrupted watchtower organization
@@markuse3472 Jesus is also not ruling from the watchtower
Matthew 24:26
King James Version
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
@@jamiebatchelor2857 Jesus is not God in the flesh, that is a lie. Your KJV has many wrong renderings and this is one.
Isaiah 9:6
The Bible also refers to the Son of God by the title “God.” At Isaiah 9:6 he is called “Mighty God.” But in the Bible, angels, humans, false gods, and Satan are also called “gods.” (Angels: Psalm 8:5) (Humans: Psalm 82:6) (Satan: 2 Corinthians 4:4.) In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word for “God,” ʼEl, simply means “Mighty One” or “Strong One.” The equivalent in the Greek Scriptures is the·osʹ.
Moreover, the Hebrew term used at Isaiah 9:6 shows a DEFINITE DISTINCTION between the Son and God. There the SON IS CALLED "MIGHTY GOD” ʼEl Gib·bohrʹ, not “Almighty God.” That term in Hebrew is ʼEl Shad·daiʹ and APPLIES UNIQUELY TO JEHOVAH GOD.
You can admit the JW's are right and you and your KJV are wrong anytime, but I doubt it.
If Jesus is the lamb, who gives him the scroll with his right hand the one on the throne? Revelation 5:7 At once the lamb came forward and took the scroll out of the RIGHT HAND of the One seated on the throne (JAH)
The rest of the chapter also differentiates Jesus from God.
Great point. Trinity teaching is not in scripture and I can’t understand why Protestant reject the Catholic Church but embrace its heretic doctrines.
@@rightousliving The doctrine of the Trinity is 1 Being of God in 3 persons. Jesus being fully human and fully God does not break the laws of the trinity by taking the scroll from the Father. He is the perfect mediator being both God and man. Read your Bible please.
@@LightoverDarkMinistry dear brother in Christ, I know my bible relatively well having studied it for many years. But of course even I rely on the Holy Spirit and not my own understanding and still discover I’ve been wrong on things I believed for a long time to be true. I used to defend the Trinity teaching for many years but more and more had to realise I was dishonest, that like many pastors that I know, I just twisted scripture to make it say what I wanted it to say instead of adjusting my understanding accordingly. There is not one single scripture that is used to defend the Trinity doctrine which holds up at closer scrutiny. I’m surprised how Protestants so clearly distance themselves rightly from many Catholic practices but still embrace so many false doctrines for no other reason but that they have been taught for a very long time and rarely challenged (which is no surprise considering that those who challenged the doctrines of the church were called heretics and risked being banned, imprisonments, being tortured or to be burned at the stake).
@@rightousliving Why does God appear to Abraham as THREE men before the destruction of sodom and gamorrah? How can Jesus resurrect HIMSELF if He is not God? If He is God and man why does He still pray to the FATHER? Why does He talk about the FATHER, the SON and the HOLY GHOST? These are just a few examples but there are more in the Bible that reference the triune nature of God. Just because our finite human minds cannot fully grasp how 3 persons make one God with all parts being unique and distinct yet perfectly equal does not mean an Infinite God that exists in the highest dimension cannot contain these qualities.
I lost half my family because I left the jw religion I can tell you it took me years to untangle all the mind set and confusions I was brainwashed throughout my life, I never felt so free… I do not hate them I do not resent them if you would like to talk to me please do my heart breaks for you jw’s let the truth set you free….
It hurt the first month I won’t deny it but I am happy it was the best decision I made on search for our God and Savior I feel free and blessed
@ivanovoc sharpova
Return to the truth like the prodigal son before the great tribulation starts!!!
I am in the truth right now brother my prayers have been answered being a JW was really never the answer
@ivanovic sharpova
And what religion are you with now then?
Instead of asking that let me ask this, does God have a religion?? If so explain please
That point about not letting them change the subject is so important. You cannot have a conversation with a JW in which they won't try to constantly change the subject. Every time you say, for example, "Well, the Greek word here that is translated firstborn means 'heir' and not necessarily the first person born." They will say, "Well, look over here where Jesus prays to Jehovah, how can He pray to Jehovah if He is Jehovah." So you explain that and they will say, "Well, over here...." They will do this for every objection you answer.
Scott - What you have written is very, very true.
Any dictionary will help with the definition of FIRSTBORN.
It is someone who is brought into existence FIRST in a line of siblings. There is no other meaning.
Because Jesus is God Firstborn, meaning, God created him First, he gets to be the Heir.
Col 1:16...all things were created FOR HIM.
Heb 1:2..God appointed Jesus HEIR.
Firstborn gets to BE the Heir. Firstborn doesn't mean Heir.
Why would people who cannot accept this truth want to change the meaning of Firstborn. In order to fool whom would be the question?
@@jimjuri6490 You have posted falsehood in the above. Here's how and why that's true: The word "firstborn" as used in Col. 1:15 has to do with supremacy. The contextual theme of Colossians 1:15-19 is that of the Supremacy of Christ. "Firstborn" is a Hebrew term having to do with rank, primacy, and supremacy. Vs. 15 is saying that Christ is the Supreme One over all Creation. That makes Him God. There is a different word for "first created", and that is the word Paul would have used if he wanted to convey the idea that Christ is a creation. He DOESN'T.
And here is something BIG: *Even the JW masters admit that "firstborn" has to do with supremacy.* “David, who was the youngest son of Jesses [sic], was called by Jehovah the “firstborn,” due to Jehovah’s elevation of David to the preeminent position in God’s chosen nation” (Aid to Bible Understanding, 1971, 584; emphasis added).
Israel is called God's “firstborn” in Exodus 4:22, but everyone knows that Israel was not the first nation created.
ADDED to this: In Revelation 1:5, Jesus is called “the firstborn of the dead,” even though He was not the first person to be resurrected chronologically. Of all ever raised, He is the preeminent One.
Romans 8:29 refers to Him as the firstborn in relation to the church.
In all the above cases, firstborn clearly means highest in rank, not first created.
@@jamesritter5078 : Please show me one example of FIRSTBORN not meaning first to be born or created INTO EXISTENCE.
Living in ignorance when a dictionary can be check with the click of a mouse is not saying much for some.
@@jimjuri6490 I just did in my previous post. And *even the JW masters admit that the word "firstborn" has to do with supremacy.*
Try actually _reading_ posts before you try to respond.
I'm genuinely trying to learn about the difference between Christianity and JW. You were awesome in teaching me and were so respectful to JW at the same time! Thank you so much❤️
Then you'd be better off asking a JW. Mike misrepresents and misquotes through his videos.
@@StretchMn I've been talking to one, I work in insurance and she was just a lead but I wished her a happy early birthday in which lead to JW talk. I think it's great to hear both sides from many people so I'm still researching!
@Payton Jones That's good to hear. Research and searching are awesome. Just make sure to get the facts.
Mike misleads and doesn't speak complete truth.
BTW a Christian is anyone who believes in Jesus. So there are true and false Christians.
Jesus said at Mt. 7:13-23 that there are only two roads. One leads to destruction and the majority are on it and the other leads to everlasting life and few are on it.
We would know that true Christian faith by their fruits, or actions. A good tree produces fine fruit and a rotten tree produces worthless fruit.
So look at each churches actions. For instance, do they condone and join in the killing of their own brothers in man's greedy wars?
Do they and allow and participate in politics and violent protests?
Do they condone and allow and participate in immorality and homosexuality?
Do they infuse paganism into their worship and celebrations?
Then they are not true Christians and Jesus will tell them he does not know them.
Hi, paytonjones. Just so you're aware: Mark/StretchMn is a JW, and that's the reason for his negative accusations.
If you ask people who oppose Jehovah's Witnesses, you will not be told truthfully about us. If you want to know, go to the source.
if jesus is not at the center of their believe How can they be chrisian?
Right?!
Read the Bible, who was Jesus teaching people about
Ps he was teaching others about god
And he even told his followers to go out and preach the truth
Jesus called his Father his God, JOHN 20:17 ...'I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.' showing Jehovah the Father is the center of worship. We pray through the Christ not to the Christ,he is the amen, our mediator.1Timothy 2:5
@@jerrychacon8814 these books were not written by jesus. These books were written by Romans who were the best at creating religions to control. You are following a 2 thousand year old propaganda programme in which the people who really knew christ were systematically killed. And false religions such as Christianity were created. You beleive Paul who hated christ, and then started to write the bible saying he had met an angel. This is part of the propaganda. Everything Christians have predicted has been wrong. Islam came and conquered Christian nations and many of them converted to Islam. The Muslims claimed Muhammad is the seal of prophets which in itself is a large statement to make. Abrahams religions were influenced by the far East. Literally you are following fantasy
@@jerrychacon8814 And the Father directly calls the Son "God" in Hebrews chapter 1.
My best friend is a new baby christian and she started leaning towards Mormonism... unfortunately. Me I don't know anything about it so I'm studying up on it so I could talk to her with the right study. I'm getting ready to listen to your 2 hour video about it next. Thanks and God bless 💜
I've heard the term "Baby Christians and my church teaches us in a manner where they eat steak and not milk, making the comparison identical. Once you accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior, baby and steak teachings don't apply. We are made clean and a new creation, I get the metaphor, but we all learn or interpret something different every time we read the word of God! So baby as opposed to Grandpa makes us all that different? Remain blessed, I just don't care for the term!
@@javiergalvan242 The fact that we have to face is that there is a reality called 'Baby Christians'. There is such a thing as an underdeveloped, immature Christian. 1st Corinthians 3: 1-9, Paul speaks to these people in verse 1 and he says: 'Brethren', he looks upon them as believers, brothers. This is the staggering thing about it, that he's not saying, as he said at the end of chapter 2, that these people are natural, they're not even saved, they're not living like Christians so they're not saved, that's not what he's saying! He says that they are babes in Christ, positionally they are in Christ, and he calls them brothers - they are real Christians yet they have never developed. I could go on and on... remember the Bible doesn't tell want us to understand in our own understanding but that of God only. When we start our own assumption meaning, we start steering it to make excuses for ourselves. May God bless you brother in Christ. Stay strong and blessed 💜
Hello Victoria, how are you doing?
Look up Walter Martin on TH-cam. He was very knowledgeable about all religions.
@@ToriLynn928 Well said. The fact that there are developmental stages in the Christian life is also borne out by John in his first epistle. He refers to 'children', 'young men', and 'fathers.'
I've only seen a few clips of this channel, most of them preaching things i don't agree with, but i gotta be fair and say that this was really well informed. Now, i'm no witness, but i do follow a lot of ex-jws, and what you say hits the nail. So good job spreading the right ibformation about the organization. Hopefully one day people won't be tricked by it anymore.
Praise God for all of us who have been saved
The end isn't here yet, so no one is saved yet.
@@StretchMn Christians can know they are saved. Immediately. Once you accept Jesus in your heart, you are saved. That is why Christians have joy because they are not guessing or hoping.
1 John 5:13 says this:
“I have written these things to you that you may know that you have eternal life, to you who believe into the name of the Son of God.”
This verse shows us God doesn’t want us to be unsure about our salvation. We have something in writing-the Word of God-by which we can know we’re really saved. God wants us to be assured of our salvation by His written Word.
John 3:16 is another verse that assures us of our salvation:
“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that everyone who believes into Him would not perish, but would have eternal life.”
This verse tells us that when we believe into Jesus Christ, we’re saved; we have eternal life and we will not perish. We’re saved when we believe in Him and receive Him as our Savior. This is God’s unchanging and reliable Word.
Romans 8:16 speaks clearly concerning these two spirits:
“The Spirit Himself witnesses with our spirit that we are children of God.”
The Holy Spirit witnesses deep within us, in our spirit, that we are truly saved. Even if we doubt this and say, “I don’t think I’m a child of God,” the Spirit within us witnesses to confirm that we are.
In 1 John 3:14, the apostle John says,
“We know that we have passed out of death into life because we love the brothers.”
This love in us for our brothers in the Lord is further evidence that we’re genuinely saved.
Praise to Jesus, I am saved and who shall separate us from the love of Christ? (romans 8:35-39) no one shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
The mere use of the name “Jesus Christ” does not prove that one has genuine faith in it, faith of the kind that assures life everlasting. Jesus said in Matthew 7:21 Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of (OF WHO?) my Father who is in the heavens will.22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord,did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’
23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew
you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness! Joel 3:32 32 And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.
Thank you for this series. Would love to have a video on Judism because a friend of mine who is exploring it (and adamantly rejects Jesus) has shared with me how complex their theology is! Looking forward to that video coming up in the series.
Throughout the entire Bible, God has always had chosen individuals to guide the rest of the body (ancient Israel and first-second century AD Christians). Among the those taking the lead, there were also others with privileges but not elders or overseers. It's all in Gods Word. God has always had a "governing body." It's all very obvious and simple, just read the Christian Scriptures carefully. What these 'leaders' said, went, or else false Christians were dismissed from the congregation, and from Israel. It has always been like that because God is holy and doesn't allow for disunity and self to be part of his Earthly kingdom. It's all in Gods Word. Jehovah God is eternal, he was not created. So, everything that was created (clearly that leaves God out) came through Jesus. Jesus was the foreman, the General manager, etc. It stuns me that you people can't see or understand this very simple and obvious reasoning backed up by Gods word. "they changed the Bible..."? Excuse yourselves, but every Bible out there was made erroneously. What JWs did is put Gods name, Jehovah, back into it correctly and properly. The rest of the small but important changes were done because they came to find more and more correct information as the decades went by, "The Dead Sea Scrolls" is one fine example, where Gods name is found some seven thousand times, all in praise worthy ways. Punctuation and some adverbs and conjunctions were not used in ancient Hebrew: they properly corrected those inconveniences. Matthew 28:19, 20 says "Go...make disciples of peoples of ALL the nations..." and Matthew 24:14 says "this good news of the kingdom WILL be preached in ALL the inhabited Earth, for a witness to ALL the nations..." That means that because Gods people have always been unified, 'of same mind, of same heart, of same spirit,' the good news must mean everyone in Gods Earthly organization must believe the same message. You guys are funny how you refuse these very obvious truths. It's "universally known by scholars this [The New world Translation] is not a good translation." The world surely is in the grip of Satans hands. Jesus and his followers were called a cult back then, they were laughed at, they were mocked, by the world of common people and religious people. The same back then, the same today in "the last days." Daniel 12:7-10 describes you guys, that you wont understand because you choose not to, and that in the last days Gods people will return. Isaiah 2:2-4 backs that up, that pure worship would return in the last days. Acts 15:14-18 backs that it up, too. And many, many more Scriptures. Gods name will be in the name of his people. You guys choose to ignore these very basic but life-saving truths. Jesus did die for ever as a human being: he did "the will of God" and "accomplished" what he was sent to do. Jesus will now and eternally be a spirit being, as he was before he came to Earth. It's in Gods word. It is true that they have made some errors, but they FIX their errors, unlike every, and that means all other religions, who don't fix their many errors. JWs make progress, just as Israel and first century AD Christians were. God does have a chosen people, and Jews deny Jesus so it can not possibly be them. The Scriptures I posted above identifies JWs as Gods chosen people. You can bash and trash them, but it makes them very, very happy because they do it all for God and Jesus. their lives are secondary. It is all Scriptural. "The Great Tribulation" is without fail coming. "I am Jehovah, and I am a God exacting exclusive devotion" states God. First and second century Christians were being mocked, harassed, beaten, imprisoned, persecuted, tortured and murdered, for "abstaining from blood," for abstaining from having idols of ANY sort, for abstaining from all holidays and such festivities, and for peaching and teaching the good news of Gods kingdom relentlessly. Acts 6:-7 was written for a reason (the case of Stephen), as are all Scriptures (2 Timothy 3:16, 17). They didn't pray to saints. They used Gods name. They were, as this dude in the video belittles JWs for doing today, an isolated, "insulated" people, Gods chosen people. When this system ends, JWs will move on into the paradise Earth God has promised, and will live as perfect beings on it for ever and ever. Those who ignored Jehovah and his message, will unfortunately pass away for ever and be forever forgotten. It's all in Gods word. You can nit pick JWs, but the truth, as I just proved the video a lie or deceptive, is with JWs. They are Gods people.
Why would you cut & paste a comment irrelevant to the comment you're posting under? A wee tip, when you use phrases like "why don't you people" while you attempt to chastise anyone not in agreement with your beliefs, well the response will be to ignore you.
@@markuse3472 K.
It's complex because it's an ad hoc religion created as they go along to justify denying the messiah.
II Timothy 2:23 - But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife.
This is not the right context, when it comes to heresies and such Paul says to call it out, cast the people and "demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ"
So in this verse you quoted , he's referring to actual useless chatter, not conversations about the deity of Christ that hinge on people's salvation and eternal destination. If you deny Jesus Christ is God you deny the nature of the blood that gives the blood the ability to justify your sins.
This comment below is in reference to your video entitled - "Jehovah's Witnesses: beliefs practices and ERRORS" from a few more years back. Hoping to get a hold of you Mike.
Hello Mike, I only remember commenting to one other video on TH-cam. I think it was to compliment an amateur musician starting out. You've compelled me, by your loving approach and caring tone, to reach out regarding JW criticisms, (and yes, I did watch the entire vid... without melting). Already looking forward to calling you my Brother someday. In the spirit of [Acts 18:24-26] I'm hoping you will continue in your genuine search for truth. I'll assume we both would agree that humility is necessary to understand God's wisdom... which, of course, is most important. [Proverbs 4:7 & 1 Corinthians 1:19-24].
I trust that you are a man of your word, and I accept your challenge... Brother. Time stamp (41:14 --> 41:23) See you in Paradise! [Psalm 37:11&29, Matthew 5:5, Revelation21:1, Isaiah 35:5&6, Isaiah 45:18, Isaiah 25:8, Revelation 21:4]
Psalm 37 is out of context.
@@misterauctor7353 In what way?
@@misterauctor7353 I've asked so many people what LGBTQ stands for. So far no one has given me a straight answer.
This comment is either out of context or I'm on the wrong You Tube Channel
@@777Tralfaz777Just read it.
@@desmcauley1967 Are you gay?
Believers help nonbelievers understand they are a sinner in need of a Savior. God’s word works because of the Holy Spirit, not our imperfect way of explaining, plant seeds. Be confident in God's Word.
🕊 1 Peter 3:15
👑 1 Corinthians 15
🙏 1 John 1:8-10
Throughout the entire Bible, God has always had chosen individuals to guide the rest of the body (ancient Israel and first-second century AD Christians). Among the those taking the lead, there were also others with privileges but not elders or overseers. It's all in Gods Word. God has always had a "governing body." It's all very obvious and simple, just read the Christian Scriptures carefully. What these 'leaders' said, went, or else false Christians were dismissed from the congregation, and from Israel. It has always been like that because God is holy and doesn't allow for disunity and self to be part of his Earthly kingdom. It's all in Gods Word. Jehovah God is eternal, he was not created. So, everything that was created (clearly that leaves God out) came through Jesus. Jesus was the foreman, the General manager, etc. It stuns me that you people can't see or understand this very simple and obvious reasoning backed up by Gods word. "they changed the Bible..."? Excuse yourselves, but every Bible out there was made erroneously. What JWs did is put Gods name, Jehovah, back into it correctly and properly. The rest of the small but important changes were done because they came to find more and more correct information as the decades went by, "The Dead Sea Scrolls" is one fine example, where Gods name is found some seven thousand times, all in praise worthy ways. Punctuation and some adverbs and conjunctions were not used in ancient Hebrew: they properly corrected those inconveniences. Matthew 28:19, 20 says "Go...make disciples of peoples of ALL the nations..." and Matthew 24:14 says "this good news of the kingdom WILL be preached in ALL the inhabited Earth, for a witness to ALL the nations..." That means that because Gods people have always been unified, 'of same mind, of same heart, of same spirit,' the good news must mean everyone in Gods Earthly organization must believe the same message. You guys are funny how you refuse these very obvious truths. It's "universally known by scholars this [The New world Translation] is not a good translation." The world surely is in the grip of Satans hands. Jesus and his followers were called a cult back then, they were laughed at, they were mocked, by the world of common people and religious people. The same back then, the same today in "the last days." Daniel 12:7-10 describes you guys, that you wont understand because you choose not to, and that in the last days Gods people will return. Isaiah 2:2-4 backs that up, that pure worship would return in the last days. Acts 15:14-18 backs that it up, too. And many, many more Scriptures. Gods name will be in the name of his people. You guys choose to ignore these very basic but life-saving truths. Jesus did die for ever as a human being: he did "the will of God" and "accomplished" what he was sent to do. Jesus will now and eternally be a spirit being, as he was before he came to Earth. It's in Gods word. It is true that they have made some errors, but they FIX their errors, unlike every, and that means all other religions, who don't fix their many errors. JWs make progress, just as Israel and first century AD Christians were. God does have a chosen people, and Jews deny Jesus so it can not possibly be them. The Scriptures I posted above identifies JWs as Gods chosen people. You can bash and trash them, but it makes them very, very happy because they do it all for God and Jesus. their lives are secondary. It is all Scriptural. "The Great Tribulation" is without fail coming. "I am Jehovah, and I am a God exacting exclusive devotion" states God. First and second century Christians were being mocked, harassed, beaten, imprisoned, persecuted, tortured and murdered, for "abstaining from blood," for abstaining from having idols of ANY sort, for abstaining from all holidays and such festivities, and for peaching and teaching the good news of Gods kingdom relentlessly. Acts 6:-7 was written for a reason (the case of Stephen), as are all Scriptures (2 Timothy 3:16, 17). They didn't pray to saints. They used Gods name. They were, as this dude in the video belittles JWs for doing today, an isolated, "insulated" people, Gods chosen people. When this system ends, JWs will move on into the paradise Earth God has promised, and will live as perfect beings on it for ever and ever. Those who ignored Jehovah and his message, will unfortunately pass away for ever and be forever forgotten. It's all in Gods word. You can nit pick JWs, but the truth, as I just proved the video a lie or deceptive, is with JWs. They are Gods people.
Hello Lisa, how are you doing?
I am so grateful that I decided to listen to this. I think it’s very important to know from the get-go that they do not trust you at all. Although I have had some very nice conversations with some JW‘s.
You'd do better listening to something a bit more high brow. Or better still try reading 👍
Because the BIBLE says that no man can be trusted lol
I'm no jw but they definitely got the "trust NO ONE" part right
James - You have read Acts 11:26, yes?
Also, if I may - What on earth does what you wrote have to do with the beliefs of the JWs???
James, I have tried to post, but Google doesn't seem to be allowing it. No one seems to know why this happens.
Many believed Jesus was michael the archangel..
John Calvin - Founder of Calvinism ( a Christian denomination)
Ellen G White (seventh day Adventist)
And many considered Christians/trinitarians.. just because it’s not a popular topic doesn’t mean that it’s a unique belief to us JWs…
There is even a 2nd century manuscript that described Jesus as an Archangel..
he is even called or recognised as “the angel of the Lord”
Origen -one of the Christian apologist- saw Christ as an Angel…
Angel means "messenger", anyone could be described as a messenger, Mike has done a video on it, that it may have been Jesus walking around pre-earthly ministry days because this "angel of the Lord", keeps using I statements like he is God and not the created angels.
Like when he tells Haggai that he will bless her son and make him many nations too.
Please pray for me! I'm an ex Jehovah's witness and lost my faith in all religions after I left Jehovah's witnesses 12 years ago. I've been totally lost and have isolated myself for the last 12 years, I need your prayers to help me to restore my faith in Jesus and to find religious truth. I've always sought truth, please help me.
I'll definitely pray for you.
I'll also recommend that you contact Mike's ministry directly.
Would you be willing to share how you left (or escaped) from the JW cult?
@jamesritter5078 Mark is being a narcissist again.
“All who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.”2 Timothy 3:12,13
Acts 28:22 But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest, for as concerning this SECT (Christianity), we know that everywhere it is spoken against.
An evil man who tries to attain the power of God should suffer, but should we also not seek to be more like Jesus, or are we eternally damned with a sin that we can never make amends for?
I lived a life as a Roman Catholic, made to feel guilty that Jesus was killed, and made to feel like a sheep in the flock. I also grew up on a farm and knew all too well what happens to the sheep. You get fleeced for a while and end up as mutton.
Well, I choose not to believe that anymore.
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
John 14:6, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
Both these verses are misunderstood.
Some will also suffer persecution for doing wrong. 1 Peter 3:17; 1 Peter 4:15. For example JWs rightly receive bad publicity when they fail to report incidents of pedophilia among them, to the authorities, resulting in perpetrators going on to abuse more children among JWs and outside their organization. It is a wicked thing to sacrifice the innocence and safety of children in order to avoid knowledge of a gross sinner among you becoming public.
I feel really bad. When I was a teenager I was one of those mean people to the JWs coming to my door. One day at my aunties house she grabbed me and tried to shove me under her kitchen table. I was asking why. The JWs are coming. I told her I'd get rid of them and make sure they didn't come back. I watched them coming down the sidewalk a threw the door open when they were halfway to the door. I scared the hell out of them. What I hadn't realized is there were 2 really young boys with an adult woman. They never bothered my aunt again. After that incident I quit trying to intimidate them. Instead I would shoot down anything they tried to tell me. I tried to convince them they were in a cult.
Remarkably Good” Translation
A “Remarkably Good” Translation
ACCORDING to one count, as many as 55 new English translations of the Christian Greek Scriptures were published between 1952 and 1990. Translators’ choices mean that no two read alike. In order to assess the reliability of the translators’ work, Jason BeDuhn, associate professor of religious studies at Northern Arizona University, in Flagstaff, Arizona, U.S.A., examined and compared for accuracy eight major translations, including the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, published by Jehovah’s Witnesses. The result?
While critical of some of its translation choices, BeDuhn called the New World Translation a “remarkably good” translation, “better by far” and “consistently better” than some of the others considered. Overall, concluded BeDuhn, the New World Translation “is one of the most accurate English translations of the New Testament currently available” and “the most accurate of the translations compared.”-Truth in Translation: Accuracy and Bias in English Translations of the Greek Scriptures
@@patchooo84 That translation is not the one you currently use. And even the scholars quite you are using, said he saw zero reason for the insertion of "Jehovah" from the J texts. Do you agree with his stance on that as well? Have you actually read his book truth in translation?
@@vandalayindustries8036
Don't be disingenuous
God"s name is in your Bible.
I hope you are only faning dumb.
Genesis 22
Jehovah Jireh
“Jehovahjireh” appears only once in the entire Bible-in Genesis 22:14 (KJV). It means “God provides.” Genesis 22: 14
Psalms 83:18
The name of Good King Jehoshaphat means
"God is Judge, Has Judged"
Jehoram (meaning "Jehovah is exalted" in Biblical Hebrew) was the name of several individuals in the Tanakh.
Jehoiachin means "May God establish"
Jehioakim : God Avenges, God Stands up
Jehoiadah : Yahweh knows
From Hebrew Yəhōyādhāʿ “Yahweh knows
Jehonadab: More to ask
What is the meaning of Jehonadab?
Jehovah is willing
Jehonadab (Hebrew: יְהוֹנָדָב; meaning Jehovah is willing; Latin: Jonadab) was the son of Rechab. He is mentioned in 2 Kings 10:15-31.
Jehoash:
Yahweh has given
Jehovah-shammah is a Christian transliteration of the Hebrew יְהוָה שָׁמָּה (Yahweh šāmmāh) meaning "Jehovah is there", the name given to the city in Ezekiel's vision in Ezekiel 48:35.
Jehovah-nissi According to Exodus 17:13-16 in the Bible, Jehovah-nissi is the name given by Moses to the altar which he built to celebrate the defeat of the Amalekites at Rephidim
Jehovah Rapha
Jehovah-Rapha?
God is known by many names in the Bible. Each name reveals a certain aspect of His character. Jehovah-Rapha is one such name found in the Old Testament and means “The God who heals” in Hebrew.
Jehovah Shalom” is Hebrew for “the God of peace.” Now, the first appearance of the name Jehovah Shalom is in the Old Testament story of Gideon in Judges 6..
@@patchooo84 Whoosh! That is the sound of my point going over your head, as you are just copying and pasting something (you probably don't understand), that has made the internet rounds for years. Let's try this again. I don't care if you use Yahweh, Lord, Jehovah.....whatever.
The scholar you have quoted, from "Truth in Translation (which I will now assume you did not read), took issue specifically with the insertion of God name due to the J texts. This is the spurious group of texts the NWT committee used to justify the insertion of the divine name in the Greek scriptures in almost all of the over 200 places it does it.
He uses the same reasoning around bias and translation to arrive at that conclusion. Do you agree with one conclusion and reject the other? Might be worth asking yourself why.
In the meantime, I would also try to get some original material rather that copying and pasting others previously written (and in some cases discredited), statements.
Truth Junkie - The above post by Mark/StretchMn is simply falsehoods. Here's how and why that's true:
- I haven't "whined" at all in my posts. The only way to get to that idea is to have that idea/accusation in mind to begin with and then read that idea into my posts. Doing this is simply not honest or truthful.
- It has already been shown that Heiser wasn't and hasn't actually been "proven" incorrect or wrong by anything that Mark writes.
- It has also already been shown what the words "firstborn" and "begotten" mean. It has also been shown what Rev. 3:14 means, and how it directly agrees with other Scriptures.
So, here again - All Mark is posting is _another_ VERY intentional and deliberate attempt to get far, far away from the subject of the multiple false beliefs and predictions of the JWs.
It wasn't having the theology refuted that got me out of being a JW, it was the feeling of having to earn your place in the congregation, all those hours in service, and the feeling that you could slip up and be labelled "bad association" so easily. It was exhausting.
Then I read H M Sealey's Kingdom Rising series and I saw, in her fictious cult "the called and chosen" everything the JWs were, and I realised with massive relief, that that wasn't the way.
This passage really spoke to me.
"Life in the Called and Chosen was a never-ending uphill trudge of proving oneself better than everyone else, of being more holy and more righteous and more hard-working and more humble and thus bringing glory to the name of the church.
Yet what she did one day counted for nothing the next, not unless it was something bad, and then it would haunt her forever. There was no way of storing up points, every day was a clean slate, and the possibility of displeasing the elders each time the sun rose was a constant reality.
Maddie had seen people serve the Called and Chosen tirelessly for years, even decades, then to slip up just once, and lose their respect and their place in the congregation.
And it was so easy to slip up. A wrong word, a wrong thought, wearing a skirt an inch too short, showing sympathy for a sinner, missing a meeting at the hall, questioning a doctrine, the list was endless.
She had never had a break. Never simply stood outside and listened to the birds or watched the flowers. The world, she had believed, was evil, and the only safe place was in that miserable Fellowship Hall where the women watched for weaknesses in their brothers and sisters like hawks in pearls and sensible shoes."
Thank you for sharing this. It is a VERY good read.
@elsiesaunders4607. The problem would be trying to get them to read something like that. I'm happy that God used that to bring things into focus for you!
Mike, I spent 35 years of my life trapped inside the WL group. Have you ever done any videos on the WL group? Now the WL operation does have a track record of suing their critics, some of them even into bankruptcy so I totally get it if you would rather not talk about them openly. BTW: It was a Calvary Chapel pastor who helped me & my family to escape the WL group. Maybe you could interview Pastor Daryl? Thanks Mike!
Okay Mike, I present to you a challenge. I am a PIMO (physically in, mentally out) JW and I've lost my faith in God and the Bible especially because of the hypocrisy I've seen in this organization and especially since I had become an elder and saw the dirty secrets for myself. That led me to research the historicity and validity of the Bible itself and I heavily doubt its divine inspiration. I am disgusted with the violence that God ordered Israel to commit as far as pillaging cities and killing infants. I researched evolution and find it fascinating and see how the idea makes senses, but also have a hard time believing life itself came about by accident from nonliving matter (abiogenesis). I kind of perhaps think organic life was started by some sort of creator-ish entity (made of energy?) and some of evolution may be random and some of it guided like an engineer making small changes to his design over time to improve it. I would consider myself deist/agnostic at the moment. But I am also open-minded and willing to accept evidence in favor of Christianity. So.. convince me! I won't be belligerent as I just have a thirst for knowledge. Feel free to reach out.
This might be a useful series for you. th-cam.com/play/PLZ3iRMLYFlHuhA0RPKZFHVcjIMN_-F596.html
@@MikeWinger Okay then, I'll give it a shot but I'm gonna have my "critical thinking cap" on 🧐. By the way, thanks for replying. You've shown yourself more approachable and humble than the JW Governing Body at this point because they won't even admit the specific accusations against them, much less respond to criticism graciously. Unfortunately I know the reasons why... they are wrong, they know they are wrong, people have gotten hurt (or killed), and they are trying to do damage control and slow the leaks until their house of cards collapses. I have proof. Thanks again. Reach out anytime via my email if you ever want to have some insights from "the inside" of JW land. One thing, JW's do not use "studies in the scriptures" as an authoritative source anymore as the doctrine has... expired. "New light", ya know?
I’m by far not the best person to answer this. But what you said really made me think about my own journey to find Christ. It’s important to remember that God is good. He is pure white Light that’s eternal. He only tells the truth and can swear on no higher than himself. With that in mind, it’s important to understand the spiritual context of sin. The presence of sin has destroyed humanity. Not only does it disobey God’s central law and authority, but it destroys all creation around it. Due to how destructive sin is in the spiritual realm, it must be punished and condemned. However, God is so loving and merciful, that he planned out how to save humanity on a spiritual level before the earth was conceived, by sacrificing his only begotten Son Jesus Christ. His Son did nothing wrong, was sinless, yet paid the ultimate price for all of our transgressions. He is now filled with honor and glory. He’s on the right hand of God, there is no higher position, and he will be a brother to us. This is a testament to the love that God has for us all, yet his hatred for sin. We with faith in the Lord, who follow his will, which is ingrained in our hearts (to love one another and to share compassion and charity), can receive salvation and glory in the spirit. All sins will be forgiven, and all sorrows will be erased because of Christ. It’s important to recognized that this world is not good. It’s been corrupted by sin and the wicked one, who looks to destroy all goodness and to harm innocence. For example, we war with one another because of sin. We become filled with lust, greed, envy, self-righteousness, and hatred. We conquer to fill ourselves and our pleasures, yet that void can never be filled without God within us (as a modern example, think about how empty riches are). He sparks that love we feel for one another. He gave me the strength to reach out to you, because I can feel that frustration that you rightly feel. You feel used and the interests of men took precedent over what matters. However, please remember, God allows us to care for those in need, to break down all barriers to replace them with love, to be merciful, to forgive, and to desire peace. These things are of the Spirit, not the flesh. You can differentiate and man and a man of God by these things. We are not warring against mankind, but principalities and powers in wicked places. You are right that humans are cruel and can abuse power. I am truly sorry that you had a bad experience that had made you question faith. I know many who never were given a chance to see the Lord’s glory because of the selfishness of individuals trying to be greater than they are (I am also guilty for this, being a sinner). But faith is found in the heart. I started reading the KJV on my own when I had nothing. It was a long process, but I found faith in the Lord because my heart changed. I repented of my horrible sins that I was aware of, and learned how to love again. This transformation was not of my own power, but was granted to me by the Lord. I beg you as a brother or sister in Christ to not let mankind dictate your faith. Read the New Testament yourself and truly feel the message of love. And if you find that faith, which I’m confident you will, I recommend using the Church as a way to bond with other individuals to increase your love. That love starts in your heart, from the Word, and nowhere else. No man can give you faith. Lastly, always remember that we cannot understand the full picture of this spiritual warfare. We can’t even see it! Yet we can definitely feel it. We cannot understand God at His level. He doesn’t confer with us about everything, yet made one thing sure, you are loved and can overcome this world like our Lord Jesus did. And find everything you need in your heart.
@@MikeWinger Why people fight against JAH and his worshippers? John 15:21 Jesus said:
But they will do all these things against you on account of my name, because they DO NOT KNOW the One who sent me (JEHOVAH).
@@johnf587 hi John it is a waste of time writing Mike he only answers on line questions at certain times and it looks like he picks and chooses questions he knows how to answer. He is also judge, jury and executioner of those who question his teachings, especially the trinity.
I was a Witness until I graduated highschool.
tbh, I know I may get laughed at for saying this but I don't understand what is so bad about their organization. I saw for myself what they said and what both their translation and what the King James version of the bible said. Besides a difference in grammar, it had the same meaning. I see why they don't celebrate birthdays as the only two birthdays accounted in the Bible resulted in murder. My nana didn't nag me to go to the meetings because she said it was on my terms and she was not going to force me to go. I didn't see anything cult like with JW. also a cult isn't worldwide, it's usually isolated in one spot.
Even though I left the organization, I have nothing bad to say about them.
PS to those who say they twist the Bible. They do not. They see it as a sin to "water down" (as they put it) the Bible.
May I ask why you left? I'm a JW. I can appreciate what you stated here.
Hi, Chevy. The JWs have a false, unbiblical Christ and a false, unbiblical way of salvation and multiple other falsehoods. And the NWT is not regarded as being a legitimate translation by any credible Bible translation scholar. Historically speaking, the JW doctrines came first, and then a "bible" was created to support them. As for the idea of "bad things happened on birthdays, so they shouldn't be celebrated/observed" - If we go by that kind of "reasoning", then gardens are also evil because look what happened in the Garden of Eden. And also God calls Israel HIS garden/vineyard in Isaiah 5, but all it yielded was bad grapes.
@@StretchMn You don't care about the OP.
@@StretchMn I started doing things that Witnesses are not allowed to do, such as smoking/vaping and was dating somebody who was not in the "truth" (as JW calls it). I eventaully broke it to my grandmother that I was leaving. Even though she was in tears, she said she would respect my decision. I contacted our elders about it. It was announced that week I was no longer a JW. Even though I have no plans on returning, as I said JW's actually are the ones who just want to serve their god and help people.
They're banned in Russia if I heard correctly.
@@jamesritter5078 I respect your opinion on them, but I will always keep my thoughts on them.
I love the terminology you use; insulated social community. Sound better than cult and using this will break down barriers.
I think outsiders underestimate the level of fear within the community. Fair of not doing enough, fear of each other because people are encouraged to tell on each other and even themselves. The fear of natural human desires, the fear of not saving enough people and therefore being destroyed.
Even after I had left I thought I was still going to die, but I was so exhausted of not doing and being enough I didn't care. When I read the gospel and saw the love of Christ, I was so angry for what I was born into. But now through Christ I am finally free.
Thank you, I hope you save many JW souls.
So, first of all, are you disfellowshipped? Or just leave?
Second, let's break down each of your "accusations" and look to the Bible to see if it right.
1. Fear of not doing enough.
That's false. JWs do everything out of love - love for Jehovah. Love for their brothers and sisters. Love of fellow man.
Lu. 21:1-4 is the example of a poor widow who put in everything she had. And Jesus praised her for it. Everyone has different circumstances. So we all do what we can with what we have.
But, we also do try our best to be obedient and follow all that the Bible says to do. Like preaching, which Jesus commanded we do.
Col. 1:10,11 - so as to walk worthily of Jehovah in order to please him fully as you go on bearing fruit in EVERY good WORK...
Col. 3:23 - Whatever you are doing, WORK at it whole-souled as for Jehovah
2. Fear of each other. (Telling on each other)
Only the wicked worry about being found out. (Was that you?)
Paul said at Ro. 16:17: "keep your eye on, or mark (or identify) those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned (or apostates!) AND AVOID THEM!!!"
Which means to NOT associate with.
Paul said at 1 Co. 5:11: "...quit mixing in company (not fellowship) with anyone called a brother that is... not even eating with such a man (not fellowship)... Remove the wicked man from among yourselves. (not fellowship)
Mt. 18:15-17 - Moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go and reveal his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector.
(Tax collectors were avoided)
3. Fear of natural desires.
There is nothing wrong with natural desires. As long as they are in harmony with the bible.
1 Cor. 6:9,10 is a list of "desires" that are wrong, and if we practice them, we will not be in God's kingdom - Or do you not know that unrighteous people will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Do not be misled. Those who are sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who submit to homosexual acts, men who practice homosexuality, thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom.
So yes, there is a fear of and fight against committing those wrong desires.
4. Fear of not saving enough people.
That's also false.
But, we love all and hope that as many as can will learn the truth and make it into God's kingdom. So we preach.
We can only spread the message to everyone. But we know not everyone will accept it. Only those that Jehovah draws. Because he knows their heart.
That includes those who are JWs.
So true worshippers, who love Jehovah and his son Jesus, will follow the bible and be obedient. Those who don't, do not and will not.
Remember Noah's day? Only a few survived, but many perished.
Mt. 24:37-39 - For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.
Oh, and one more thing. Fear. That too is a requirement.
Pr. 8:13 - The fear of Jehovah means the hating of bad
Pr. 16:6 - And by fearing Jehovah one turns away from bad.
Ecc. 12:13 - The conclusion of the matter, everything having been heard, is: Fear the true God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole obligation of man.
Ac. 10:35 - ...but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.
@Woman of Character
I agree with Mark K. My parents and grandparents were/are Jehovah’s Witnesses and I grew up knowing the truth. The only time I had fear is if I was doing something wrong, and it wasn’t fear of the Congo, it was fear of disappointing my parents.
Everything else that Mark shared is exactly correct. We do things out of love for our fellow man and love fore Jehovah.
Im wondering why your guest was.....a guest? He said 3 or 4 words, lol. Great info, either way. Thank you
Mike was actually the guest of Allan and it was a 1H+ episode on many heretic denominations. The whole thing is on his channel it was really good!
I like how Allen just sits there making faces for 15 minutes lol
@Breadfromspirit
That’s because he’s a buffoon and Mike is a wind bag who didn’t pause long enough for Allen to think of anything to interject. Either way they’re both liars and their claims have been disproven with scripture repeatedly. Too bad so many people still jump on their band wagons instead of seeking the truth.
@@watchman8644 take it easy man
@Breadfromspirit
Okay, okay.
This was an awesome video. Thank you Mike W. And Allen P. for educating us.
@Rodney Parson
You were not educated, you were deceived.
@@watchman8644 you can't just make a statement and for anyone to believe you without any evidence to make your claim valid. Without it, it has no value.
You're quite wrong, dj, and here is why and how:
dj you are quite wrong
@@jamesritter5078 you can't just make a statement and for anyone to believe you without any evidence to make your claim valid. Without it, it has no value.
One lady came to the house and I read my Bible daily so I was asking her so many questions because what she was saying was so contradicting to the word and she couldn't answer them so she told me she had to send someone else back...no one ever came back.
What did you ask?
Hi, ilovejoharai. I'm not a JW.
Just FYI - Tralfaz is a JW and that is the reason for his post.
@@jamesritter5078 Absolutely! I would love to hear these question she asked.
@@777Tralfaz777 Speaking of questions, what makes the world a better place?--when people exercise skepticism regarding unsupported supernatural claims, or when credulous religious believers murder children and infants because some man claims that god said so? "This is what the Lord Almighty says...Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys." (1 Samuel 15:2-3). What if a group of religious nuts were told to kill YOUR wife and children, because some man claimed that god said so? Would you rather they just had faith and believed the claim without evidence, or would you rather they were skeptical and demanded evidence before murdering your entire family, and your pets?
I like how he repeats “8 guys in New York” …. Gotta point out the ridiculousness lol
Its funny how he blast "8 guys in N.Y." but then doesn't every religion have guys that run their organization? Like the pope?
Or Pastor Mike also? Isnt he running his church and deciding what to teach and trying to convince people to belive him and his ways?
@@StretchMn I agree. The point (well, my point) is not that religion is ridiculous -- I certainly do not think it is, and as a Deist I think there is a God out there -- but specifically that JW is a cult and nothing that anyone should support.
As one of the heroes said in the book and movie Children Of the Corn, "Any religion without love and compassion is false! It's a lie!"
@@neutrino78x So what "facts" do you use to back up your comments?
It's more ridiculous to have only one person who dictates what can and cannot be done.
I grew up with JW parents. I went preaching house to house, hence I was a firm believer. I became a Literature Servant (old terminology) and candidate for a Congregation Servant ( old Servant). While in college, I co-mingled with students outside my belief. I began to enjoy and appreciated their friendship, while I pursue my college ambition. At my age, I began to venture to have girlfriends outside JW. I admired them immensely for their open- minded on religion. Consequently, I married a catholic nurse. We had 3 kids together, all baptized in the catholic church. My eldest and my second son married Catholic, while my youngest daughter married Jewish. They are all raising wonderful kids. I firmly believe that since God had ultimate love and wisdom, my family will receive a bountiful blessing from a loving God.
@manny
It’s a shame you knew the truth and chose a different path. If you had real love for your family, you would guide them to the real life the Bible teaches and not just look for the easy path in Satan’s world.
@manny
I read your comment again and I don't think you were ever one of Jehovah's Witnesses. You attempted to make it seem like it, but you definitely misused the terminology which makes me think you just used stuff you've heard or have seen other people use. Also, no one is ever a candidate for any "position" (for lack of a better word) within the congregation.
What is a literature servant? What is a congregation servant? I'm sure you won't be able to explain because it's obvious you fronted.
@@watchman8644 Those terminologies were in the 50's. I am now 81 years old. Maybe, you were not born yet, my boy.
By the way, yesterday I was visited by a JW and I told him to come back sometime when an election was over. I will try to entertain him and will start a conversation about the bible. Will see how good he is. I do not entertain a canned presentation.
@manny
I know what a literature servant and a congregation servant is. Your explanation of what a congregation servant is (old servant) doesn’t line up.
Also, if you were already an elder in the congregation you’d have been older. Did you go to college later in life and it was full of older people too?
Your story has too many holes. You may have had parents who were witnesses and been raised in the truth, but I’m pretty confident in saying you were probably never an elder or “in line” to be the congregation servant.
As a former Jehovah's Witness, I can assert that the majority of what Mike Winger presents is incorrect. Nearly all crucial aspects are significantly misinterpreted or misunderstood.
How is it incorrect?
dollsofvalley - Your assertion is indeed an assertion - and that's all it is.
Provide 2-3 real, actual examples of where Mike is wrong regarding "crucial aspects" of what JWs believe that substantiate what you've asserted.
If you're like over 95% of the people who post as you have, this will not happen.
@@dollsofvalley thanks. Whenever I have doubts or questions about the organization, I look at these types of videos and I hear the same twisting of my views. Only in the slightest things but it makes it sound like a cult. Like where did he get that we think Jesus dissolved??? He got resurrected. Like that’s one of our core beliefs? Anyways I’m just glad someone else is picking up on these weird insertions of falsehoods
@@jamesritter5078 Um, just go to the JW website and fact check it yourself. Don't look to me to give you a long winded explanation. Go to the website and DISCOVER FOR YOURSELF. You'll see that everything in this video has been misinterpreted or egregiously misunderstood.
@@LargestLuke Jesus Christ is God. You JW’s are completely wrong.
Just curious why the subtitles are in Korean only? I am mostly deaf and rely on subtitles to understand what is being said. Will have to skip the video unfortunately.
Y'all are truly doing the Lord's work. And for that I thank you both
Hello 🤗 thank you Jesus for another great and wonderful day 🤎
Thank you so much for sharing this and yes I agree. I do believe the Lord knew ahead of time people would pervert the gospel, and I think it's cool that some of these scriptures are pre warning ⚠️ thank you for sharing this 😇
God bless you 😇💕
Hey Mike could you do a video on Christian churches who preach they are the only way such as Church of Christ and Christadelphians. I grew up in the Church of Christ and my mom is now a christadelphian.
there is no church that is the only way- for salvation is found in every church- BUT there has to be one church who has the -truth or the best understanding of scripture above others
Amen to that - I used to belong to ICOC, and when I left them, they tried to convince me that I was leaving Jesus. Fortunately I knew my bible well enough to know that was wrong, but many people don't!
@@redclover1027 ICOC?
@@nykka3 International Churches of Christ - a "Christian cult" i belonged to back in the day when it was called the Boston Movement or Cornerstone Movement - they wanted (and evidently still do) complete control of your life (I'll never forget being bawled out over not praying before I ate a cup of Yoplait yogurt!), and they contend they are THE ONLY true church. Look them up - there is plenty of information on them.
Matthew, 10:34-36 , Jesus canceled his one title, the prince of peace, saying, ''Do not think i come for peace, instead Sword,! ''So, he is being the Way, he teaches the Ways on how to be saved?, so, the question is @John, 17:3, were this prayer a figuratives or not?
Kinda weird how JW's and LDS's were founded around the same time and place
Well, that period in history is known as the 2nd great religious awakening. There’s been at least 4 of them in the last 300 years. It’s also the same time that Methodists, Baptists, and Presbyterians started showing up. Just because two groups popped up around the same time doesn’t mean they have anything in common.
@@KnuttyEntertainment Actually, that's incorrect about the Methodists, Baptists, and Presbyterians. For instance, the Methodists were founded by John Wesley during the early 1700s, far more than a century before JWs or LDS. And Baptists were originated from the Anabaptists who existed as early as the 1500s. Same for Presbyterianism, based on John Calvin, of the Lutherans, by John Knox of the early 1500s, about 1514, as well. So they are absolutely not associated with the JWs or LDS at all.
@Sam Collinson _The thing they have in common is that they were founded by Freemasons -_
I suppose you mean JW and LDS, right? Not Baptists, Methodists or Presbytarians, right?
It's true
I didn’t say they were founded during that time period, it’s just when they rose to prominence. And I agree that they’re not associated with Latter-Day Saints. My whole point was just because two groups (JW and LDS) rose to prominence around the same time or place doesn’t mean they’re related. And it wasn’t even that close anyway. There’s a 50 year time gap between the origins of the two groups.