Luthier Tips du Jour - The V Joint

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 มิ.ย. 2010
  • Luthier and Instructor, Robert O'Brien, invites luthier Bill Nesse to show how he executes the V joint on his classical guitar pegheads.

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  • @grb321
    @grb321 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the clear video. I followed the directions and was
    able to make a pretty good v-joint on an electric guitar I just built.
    The v-joint is pretty. I used a volute to help with the joint
    strength. I think the joint is strong enough, especially as the
    string tension is pulling this joint together.
    BTW, I also used your video on how to spray a sunburst
    finish, and had great results there, too. Thanks.

  • @OBrienGuitars
    @OBrienGuitars  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes, this joint is very strong and shows off your craftsmanship as well.

  • @OBrienGuitars
    @OBrienGuitars  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great to hear you had good results and are enjoying my videos. Happy Building!

  • @natanborges5983
    @natanborges5983 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excelente

  • @bigsbyfreak
    @bigsbyfreak 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been doing that on the last 2 guitars. Tricky to do but so nice looking!

  • @Fili2009able
    @Fili2009able 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot.

  • @boblob2003
    @boblob2003 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are v-joints on surviving renaissance guitars and vihuelas dating back to the 16th century. Some also incorporate a Spanish heel as well.

  • @f00by
    @f00by 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    scoosh :D Such an awesome word :)

  • @behradgorgani
    @behradgorgani 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First of all thank you for the beautiful video Robert, I have a question though, would it be possible to leave the shoulders of the neck shaft square and angle the end grain of the peghead? it seems that would be easier, maybe I'm wrong

  • @Fili2009able
    @Fili2009able 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for sharing your videos ! I was thinking if making templates for both pieces of the wood , will the job could be done ? I have a project in mind to make an electric bass guitar neck (could be wenge,walnut or padouk wood) . Will be this joint strong enough for this project?

  • @CactuarKing
    @CactuarKing 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    i'm very curious about the guitar shown with the veneer on the back of the headstock, i think that is beautiful and would love to give something like that a try. would you attach the veneer and then thickness the headstock separately from the neck in order to achieve this? or would it be a matter of moving the headstock foward so the tip of the male part is flush with the back of the headstock and then taking the excess off the front of the headstock in order to level the neck (shortening the headstock slightly)

  • @pigjubby1
    @pigjubby1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. It seems like lots of end grain is being used as a gluing surface.
    This is a joint used without a head plate also?
    I like the scarf joint myself.
    Great video.
    Thank you for sharing it.

  • @koenie17
    @koenie17 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great!! Thanks a lot, I love a good looking V joint. If im not mistaking the angle of the peghead you said 8° ? Isnt that too low? Im doing 12° on my guitars. Is there any particular reason for this angle?

  • @OBrienGuitars
    @OBrienGuitars  10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If the angle is larger than what I mention you will need thicker stock.

  • @jayabottaro-salisbury1572
    @jayabottaro-salisbury1572 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a really fun video, thanks for sharing. Just curious, how log did it take Mr. Nesse to execute this joint? Thanks for all your videos, they are quite inspiring.

    • @OBrienGuitars
      @OBrienGuitars  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      We filmed it in a couple of hours. Without the camera he does it quite quickly.

  • @OBrienGuitars
    @OBrienGuitars  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @behradng Sure, you could do that. Whatever works is the way you should do it.

  • @donarmando916
    @donarmando916 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It definitely takes me several days but it's the first one.

  • @AttilaCsongorKiss
    @AttilaCsongorKiss 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sokadik videó, amiben valaminek az elkészítését, annak fortélyait mutatják be. Itt éppen a V kötést láthatjuk, annyival nehezítve, hogy az összekötendő elemek szöget zárnak be egymással. Gitárok nyaka és feje között alkalmazzák.
    Ami különösen tetszik, hogy a végső formát és a finomítást vésővel csinálja, de a legérdekesebb, hogy az illesztés pontosságának ellenőrzéséhez vizet használ.
    #gitár #guitar

  • @marcusm.8374
    @marcusm.8374 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could this be applied to the neck of a steel string guitar ? Thanks.

  • @OBrienGuitars
    @OBrienGuitars  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @biggestclaptonfan Yes. They are left square.

  • @TheAlexkru
    @TheAlexkru 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    i decided to attempt to build electric guitars as a job, i've been watching the videos that pertain to Neck/Headstock, because i think acoustic necks feel better than most electric necks, this is a cool way to join headstock and neck

  • @jussielsoares3617
    @jussielsoares3617 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow

  • @biggestclaptonfan
    @biggestclaptonfan 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, are the shoulders of the female part of the v joint left square? unlike the 8.5 degrees cut on the male part
    thanks, Paul

  • @headknocker8999
    @headknocker8999 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sure does look sweet when executed properly.. The secret is a sharp chisel & the time needed to fit the parts..

  • @davtst1
    @davtst1 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to be like y ou i love work with my hand :-) 13 years old love this vidéo

  • @cirusmetal
    @cirusmetal 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trabalhoso hein !

  • @ChristopherSmith-bh4sz
    @ChristopherSmith-bh4sz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video but; pray tell, what is a 'Skoshe'?

    • @OBrienGuitars
      @OBrienGuitars  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Christopher Smith "a little bit," Korean War armed forces slang, from Japanese sukoshi "few,little, some."

    • @ChristopherSmith-bh4sz
      @ChristopherSmith-bh4sz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +OBrienGuitars Thanks,never heard that before.

    • @darrellblanchard2362
      @darrellblanchard2362 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A skoshe is 2 smidgens.

  • @GigioLuthieria
    @GigioLuthieria 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🧐 complexo e elegante

  • @nathansathler8781
    @nathansathler8781 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happens if i revert the male\female cuts?

    • @OBrienGuitars
      @OBrienGuitars  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +nathan sathler give it a shot and find out.

    • @nathansathler8781
      @nathansathler8781 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +OBrienGuitars i dont did it, but i thnk that looses strenght whem make the shpe on neck (sorry, regular english)

  • @boheeem
    @boheeem 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    made 5 piece laminated neck, and it's gonna brake never :)

  • @jasonadams527
    @jasonadams527 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lot of work for bragging rights. But it would be a slightly better joint structurally and cosmetically as well, for those who have the time. Thanks for the fine video!

  • @VitalityMassage
    @VitalityMassage 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No idea why someone would do a v joint over a scarf joint other than to try to be cool or different. It's obviously much harder to do and not as strong.

    • @aDotFromTheFuture
      @aDotFromTheFuture 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +VitalityMassage Well it's not like the neck is going to brake from that point, the joint is plenty strong to withstand the string tension and other wear and tear. Many luthiers actually want to be different from everyone else, so their work will stand out from everyone else's. There is no real reason for abalone either, or numerous other decorative elements in guitars, and yet, they are still used and thankfully so.

    • @joahchewbhaka5679
      @joahchewbhaka5679 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, I would never buy a guitar like that. Engineering is more important than aesthetics.

    • @donarmando916
      @donarmando916 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joahchewbhaka5679 I think the v-joint is definitelly looking better than the scarf joint but it's laborious to execute and it requires great precision. You need to have the time to do it because i'm not sure anybody would pay you an extra for the aditional effort. That's why most luthier work with the scarf joint.

  • @martymcfly002
    @martymcfly002 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, I think I'll stick with scarf joints! Beautiful though..

  • @mariogirard9664
    @mariogirard9664 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice join. Now try with a veneer between 😉

  • @moutchy
    @moutchy 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    th-cam.com/video/KocJHchKVZQ/w-d-xo.htmlm47s What happend to the other side ?

  • @robertbdesmond
    @robertbdesmond 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video. I enjoyed viewing it. Well done, as usual.
    Though this is a technically challenging neck joint, the V joint is totally unnecessary and a waste of time, in my opinion. A scarf joint is as strong or stronger, and can be executed in a fraction of the time it takes to make a V joint. I don't find the V joint particularly attractive either. If you want to make a V joint to impress others, then do so. But it is totally not necessary, unless you have time to burn.

  • @kotikaljaful
    @kotikaljaful 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    that´s nice, but what is the point? too much work