The Happy Place 😊 5 reasons why Vintage and Neo-vintage beats New!
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- Rolex Purgatory is ending! A new phase is beginning in the world of the fickle watch collector! Vintage and Neo-vintage is where it's at for me... for now anyway!
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20 odd years ago it would have been Tissot,Tag Heuer,Longines and Omega. All great Swiss watch companies that didn't have a negative reputation. Never buy at full retail and you will be fine.
I loved the humor in this one. I’m probably around step 9 myself. Got my Rolex Sea-Dweller and love it and don’t feel like spending a lot on any watches for a while. I’m still buying some less expensive watches because well, I’m addicted. 😊
Sea-dweller is a terrific 'only' Rolex. It's got the best of everything Rolex does. I'm going to start treating my 500 bucks like it's 5000 bucks, and be quite prudent for a while! Will see how it goes!
I have a 1979 Seiko quartz 7548 Pepsi diver that has been serviced. The lume is dead, but it runs flawlessly. It also passed the WR test. I do like the "newer" solar technology of Seiko and Citizen. I'd love to see these brand release new solar versions of their vintage models.
Those old seiko quartz divers are lovely aren't they. I'm thinking of the 7c46 Tuna as an option...
I feel you very much. I’m not thinking of buying any new watch in the immediate future. It’s sit back and enjoy wearing my current collections. But having recent experience in buying preowned pieces excites me. I can’t agree more with you mate. It’s so much fun now. I think I’m being a well-informed watch purchaser now than impulse buying as in the past. Cheers!
I think impulse buying is part of the watch collecting madness, that affects us all. Knowing when to stop and get out, and then actually getting out is the hard bit. Congratulations on achieving it, and settling in to a more enjoyable and sustainable pattern
Warning: Vintage parts might be expensive.
I bought my oldest watch yet, a few weeks ago, a Breitling Navitimer from 1995, on a steel bracelet. The bracelet was way too short for me; I needed like 4 more links. They were almost impossible to find, and when I did, the price was 200 USD for each link (!). This was for the 400A Navitimer bracelet, made of steel.
Luckily, I managed to fit a newer Navitimer bracelet, which I already owned, onto the watch.
Good advice! old bracelets wear out and links get lost, and yes there are parts out there but they're expensive relative to what you are getting!
2008 Seamaster 2254 one of my favourite acquisitions over the past few years so totally understand the Neo-vintage route. 6 month Omega service turnaround so it’s away at the moment but looking forward to getting it back. Love the look and feel of some vintage pieces, but I’m not sure whether their relative fragility would impact my experience of owning and wearing them. There is something nice about modern sports watches in that regard.
Yes I agree that the vintage watches are not as robust as modern watches, particularly the shock resistance and crystal fragility. However, the relative wear time is a lot lower as I tend to only wear vintage watches for a day here and there. My 2254 is off for Omega Service too. 4 weeks and counting. I miss it!
Man I really like that Tag!
It feels like an 'old man's watch' as it's two tone, and on a 21 year old it would be so cool! On a 50 year old, it's an old man's watch again!
@@TheRandomWatchDude it's just a really cool watch. 👌🏽
I like the Rolex Sea Dweller but ended up buying the orange bezel Planet Ocean with the white dial earlier this month. I just couldn't stomach paying over twice as much for a watch that I honestly didn't like more than the Omega. Besides, orange is my favorite color LOL.
You're an orange watch dude like me! I so nearly bought that very model myself about 3 years ago. My wife put me off, at the time! Watch shopping with your spouse is against the rules! Great choice sir!
Not one to argue with Archie’s buying advice, you hear about ‘saving up and buying the grail’ and obtaining the ‘one watch to rule them all’ (might be thinking about something else there), but I’m calling b.s. on that. I have a rule for myself: simply if financially I can’t afford to re-buy a watch which is lost or stolen, tomorrow, I have no business trying to buy or own it. For me, it makes my watch purchases comfortably where I want to be. I bought a 2005 Seamaster 2531.80 last year, and to honest, I’m not happy walking around with £2.5 grand on my wrist. My £400 Lorier Neptune on the other hand, is a daily wear, and I’m not worried about wearing it everywhere. This is just my position and I’m not suggesting it’s for everyone. Look forward to seeing your journey pan out. Richard in UK 🇬🇧
Thanks Richard. The 2531.80 is a perfect combination of style, luxury, practicality and cost! I would wear that as a daily very happily. When my 2254.50 comes back from service it will be my 'go to' daily. Thanks for the input.
All makes sense to me 👍 . Once you decide to opt out of the new luxury market there are two choices vintage or inexpensive new watches. I decided to go for new inexpensive, because vintage servicing in the UK is astronomical and there is always the fear of franken/fake vintage watches. My latest acquisition DW5600 for £50, I can't wait until it arrives 😁
DW5600 is a classic! I cherish mine.
I think there’s another option, which kind of falls into the inexpensive category, but not always, which is microbrands and independents. Another rabbit hole but loads of fun.
@@peakrider4886 I'm not crazy on micro brands as a whole, as ive never seen a design combination that resonates as completely original'. Something that all micro brands have in common for me, is the generic look with a splash of colour on the bezel or dial. I can't get past it somehow.
@@TheRandomWatchDude I know what you mean, I think a lot of brands get labelled as homaging, which might be true of the Chinese photocopier ones, but I also think there’s been so many watch models over the years, that probably most take inspiration in one form or another. That said, I think there are some micro’s out there that do things a little different; Autodromo is one that springs to mind and also those crazy Scottish guys at Brew.
Orange PO is a winner
I'm eyeballing a GMT seamaster 50th anniversary 2234.50, always lusted for one for years. Watch only tho, from a Grey dealer 1900 usd..maybe a good buy, if it's been serviced.
Love that model. I would get that one if I didn't already have the non-GMT
Mark, perhaps it’s time for a SOTC in total , just before your market sabbatical ?? 😂
I don’t think you’ve done one of those yet have you ??
You're right. a SOTC is not far away! In the next couple of weeks
Hi Mark I'm still on the Rolex part of my collecting journey and own most of the other more affordable brands watches and the few I still would like to own are the higher end omegas but the cost of them and how much you loose if selling them puts me off . I'd rather save up for a Rolex this might be a good thing as it stops me buying watches I don't really like. So a question ❓ I own about 20 watches and not good at selling them probably using five regularly but love owning all of them so how many do you keep in your collection?and would you start to do a one in one out? Please let me know what you think thanks John.
Hi John, I think my sweet spot for collection size, when I am most at ease, and wearing all the watches often enough, is when the size is around 4-6 watches. Anything more than this and I start feel uneasy about expensive watches sitting in the safe. I don't believe that this is such a big issue when the dollar value per watch is a lot lower, or you have more money than you need. I currently have 7 really nice mechanical watches, a quartz Tag, 2 g-shocks, and an heirloom vintage Seconda. I won't add any more expensive watches to that as I can't justify the cost vs wear time ratio.So yes for me it will be a case of one in, and one out if I want anything else.
@@TheRandomWatchDude hi Mark thanks for your advice I own four breitling Hercules different colours diles they have center mental Yalu as I couldn't afford to buy one when I was a lot younger and had just met my wife and was saving for are first home.so twenty years later i brought all four. And that started me on watch collecting three of the twenty are under £1000 and I can't remember when I war them last so maybe that's a good place to start? Then the next price level is Christopher ward I own four of them between £1-2k but really like the quality at an affordable price if you have never seen one you'd not believe the quality as good as Tudor. The other thirteen is a very big jump in price and will be hard motivation me to sell. What do you recommend thanks John.
@@JohnBowman-ut4dz John it's a very tricky dilemma, and also a very personal, emotive one. My advice would be to keep the models that have sentimental value, as you may regret selling them in later years. I then get rid of the 3 or 4 cheaper non-sentimental watches, as once they are gone, you won't miss them anyway. And keep the 3 or 4 expensive ones that you really enjoy wearing. It's a tough one John, and hard decisions need to be made, but ultimately they are just chunks of metal that tell you what the time is, so 'don't over think it' is another piece of advice that I also need to keep reminding myself of.
@@TheRandomWatchDude thanks I really appreciate your advice I think your right I'll sell the three I just don't need and maybe two of the Christopher ward s I have a brand new breitling avenger only warn 4-5 time's and a Tudor black bay chronograph panda I've owned for 5 months brand new full stickers and never been on my wrist.i own the mi metal Tudor same watch and love it and where it a lot .I think these could maybe go. Thanks John.
@@JohnBowman-ut4dz it's totally a personal choice, but less is more in this hobby I'm slowly realising. And you can't ever buy back the sentimental watches, but you can pretty much buy back anything else if you have regrets later.
I love that chart super effective 😂 ... My chart would be
1st phase: No interest in watches only had a cheap swatch
2nd phase: Seiko and smart watch
3rd phase: TH-cam and Facebook group influenced, Swiss automatic shitters like Tissot 😂
4th phase: 1 watch per brand
1x Rolex 1xTudor 1xOmega 1xGrand Seiko 1xTissot 1xSeiko 1x Hamilton etc
5th phase: All my shitters stolen 😢
6th phase: Insurance sorted only buy higher tier watches Rolex!
7th phase: Rolex and Omega Fanboy
8th phase: Dont care anymore about watches, especially Rolex AD
9th phase: I'm only interested in certain watches, not in a hurry to buy any watches.
10th phase: Relaxed and felt like I completed my watch journey 😌
Great video. Hopefully, you do more soon 😀
You found me at 8th phase!! very good summary sir, and thank you for taking the time to put it up here.
My thoughts:
1. Design: Omega introduced the co-axial movement. Initially, they tried the two-layer version, found in the 2500. This movement had some problems, so they opted for a three-layer co-axial in the 8500 movement. Omega watches used to be quite slim.
2. Cost: Go for watches with ETA or Sellita movements. Avoid in-house.
4. Fun: When you and your family are safe, then fun is the most important aspect in life
So true that the fun really comes when everything else in your life is taken care of, and happy!