Incredible work, I never realized the ISP of the puff was that bad and which makes it even more amazing that you managed to get this work at all! The VAB landings were really the icing on the cake.
This is probably not that hard since there’s a bug in the game where you can use IntakeAir as a “fuel”. It produces thrust at zero fuel/electricity cost
I know Bill has a lot of lore surrounding him in the Bradley Whistance Cinematic Universe, but I thought I'd share my own Jeb-canon. Jebediah, despite being something of a psychopathic spacecraft engineer like Bill, is not *quite* as sanity-deprived as he is. Not only does he make for one of the best pilots in the KSC, but he's also the owner of a junkyard and spaceship parts manufacturing company... which *also* happens to have a bar & grill on the premises, since Jeb is quite fond of anything involving fire, smoke, and the possibility of explosions. Although he doesn't cook all his meals with rocket engines(as the kerosene-based ones give the food a disgusting flavor), the ones he does cook with rockets are powered by cryogenic hydrogen engines- which simply expel water vapor, of course, but are expensive to maintain and operate. They're used only on a special order basis. Bill and Jeb like to hang out at the bar and discuss why rockets are never big enough over a few finely-grilled giant snail steaks, and copious amounts of beer(which may or may not be 'repurposed' rocket fuel). They share crazy ideas and wacky theories about all kinds of things, and it's where Bill has gotten some of his most outlandish ideas from.
Fan theory: Kerbal biology is so hardy that their yeast produces beer that can be used as rocket fuel as well as kerbals being able to drink it and not die but still feel the effects. This would explain a lot about Jeb, the the ksp in general and why the hell they can pull off in situ mining absolutely everywhere
So I’ve been thinking about cooking with rocket engines. Kerosene ones are much too dirty, yeah - I don’t think you want your food smoked *that* much. Hydrogen storage is way expensive, but the middle ground, methane, is already what we use for household activities like heating or cooking (as natural gas.) Hypergolics and monopropellants would be too poisonous for humans to cook with, though Kerbals might have an easier time of that (plus with hypergolics you don’t have to reach in there with a lighter.) Ion engines will probably stop the food from rotting by sterilising it, but I don’t think you’ll have much luck cooking with them. Maybe they’ll get hot enough, like those electric stovetops? Solid rockets would probably be too inconvenient - can’t turn up or down the heat, and the burning chunks of fuel they expel probably aren’t good for the taste - though I’m sure some Kerbal chefs swear by them.
I'm a little disappointed the cargo plane wasn't still sitting on the VAB roof when the orbiter returned. Would've made for a hell of a tight landing, but with all that landing gear the cargo plane could probably have made a passable backstop for if the landing went too wrong.
Bradley, this is amazing. To this day, I have no idea how you manage to keep doing impossible things that I never even considered before like it was nothing. I'm finding myself missing the traditional format of The Odyssey by Bill, though. IDK, something about the classical music and the oddball narrative making commentary on real-world events. Will we ever see a return to this format?
“Some fully fleshed out rocket engines that run on monopropellant” I mean, it’s just the one, the Puff, and I’m not really sure it’s fully fleshed out either. You’d think there’d be some advantage to using it, when really the only thing it’s notable for is being physicsless (back in my day that was massless)
Part of me feels like using a cargo plane to get to the top of the mountain is cheating, but another part of me knows that if anyone would consider it cheating, it would be you. But you did it anyway
My proudest moment in KSP was when I overshot the runway with a shuttle. I did a split-s and landed the other way on the runway. I immediately retired that version of the shuttle because it couldn't be topped.
Hey Brad, great video. Got a challenge for you as I've never seen you use the newer propellers/ducted fanblades: Build and fly an SSTO to Eve, Duna, Laythe and back to Kerbin using ONLY electric rotor propeller/fanblade power and ion propulsion (no decoupler or kraken drive shenanigans of course) I suppose you could call it the "No liquid fuel challenge"?
@(S)-Riley Dunn the problem is eve. I dont know if you could ever reach orbital speed with props and ions on layth. Maby if you had a nuclear engin, but I'm not sure.
Ideas of mission: _Fly-by all planets and moons of the stock game with less than 1000 m/s of Delta-V from LKO _Fly at the highest altitude only with propellers ( personnaly I broke 22 800 m) Or make a video who learn advanced aerodynamics 🤩
@@Tr0lliPop I suppose, but you would need to fly at a low speed for a long time to minimize drag losses. And it might be a good idea to test if the parachute works when the kerbal is shielded by a fairing or utility bay.
@bestPlayer_xu what????? This sounds absolutely fucking insane!!! Give me a link right now please. If he recorded this ofc. Would be AWESOME to see this
I once contemplated using "Puff" engines for a Gilly Lander, I wasn't going for particularly high Delta-V since you don't need that for landing on gilly, I just wanted it to be as light as possible, and Monopropellant weighs less than liquid fuel (if I'm not mistaken) Honestly a direct return mission is much easier and cheaper anyway
The puff is also great to make a Messerschmitt Me-163 replica - it is just terrible enough to replicate the first rocket-plane‘s engine, with no more than a few minutes of powered flight and then gliding to a landing on skids (wheels were ditched on take-off). I uploaded one to steam
![This SSTO can carry over 75 tonnes [2+ orange tanks] to orbit! KSP](/img/n.gif)
Incredible work, I never realized the ISP of the puff was that bad and which makes it even more amazing that you managed to get this work at all!
The VAB landings were really the icing on the cake.
Whoa.... Stratzenblitz75 didn't know something? When's the last time THAT happened?
@@trevorfarrell5047 when he didnt know common sense with those amazing giant crafts
Oooooh shit it’s the strat-man
@@chunkydurango7841 ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-bop
It Was Jeb Not Bill!
Challenge: make a working SSTO only using drain valves for propulsion
Yes plz
This is probably not that hard since there’s a bug in the game where you can use IntakeAir as a “fuel”. It produces thrust at zero fuel/electricity cost
Oh, good to know, thanks!
scott manly beat ya to it
@@lifegeek5742 that was fixed and was a bug so it would be cheating
2:08 “Bill came in for the final approach...”
I guess Jeb doesn’t get any credit here!
What a robbery
Bradley Whistance lol, incredible work all the same. It’s always amazing to see what you’re able to pull off.
Bully jeb #jebrights
@@BradleyWhistance sneak 100
@@bonbin6053 #valentinarights
I know Bill has a lot of lore surrounding him in the Bradley Whistance Cinematic Universe, but I thought I'd share my own Jeb-canon.
Jebediah, despite being something of a psychopathic spacecraft engineer like Bill, is not *quite* as sanity-deprived as he is.
Not only does he make for one of the best pilots in the KSC, but he's also the owner of a junkyard and spaceship parts manufacturing company... which *also* happens to have a bar & grill on the premises, since Jeb is quite fond of anything involving fire, smoke, and the possibility of explosions.
Although he doesn't cook all his meals with rocket engines(as the kerosene-based ones give the food a disgusting flavor), the ones he does cook with rockets are powered by cryogenic hydrogen engines- which simply expel water vapor, of course, but are expensive to maintain and operate. They're used only on a special order basis.
Bill and Jeb like to hang out at the bar and discuss why rockets are never big enough over a few finely-grilled giant snail steaks, and copious amounts of beer(which may or may not be 'repurposed' rocket fuel). They share crazy ideas and wacky theories about all kinds of things, and it's where Bill has gotten some of his most outlandish ideas from.
Fan theory: Kerbal biology is so hardy that their yeast produces beer that can be used as rocket fuel as well as kerbals being able to drink it and not die but still feel the effects. This would explain a lot about Jeb, the the ksp in general and why the hell they can pull off in situ mining absolutely everywhere
So I’ve been thinking about cooking with rocket engines.
Kerosene ones are much too dirty, yeah - I don’t think you want your food smoked *that* much.
Hydrogen storage is way expensive, but the middle ground, methane, is already what we use for household activities like heating or cooking (as natural gas.)
Hypergolics and monopropellants would be too poisonous for humans to cook with, though Kerbals might have an easier time of that (plus with hypergolics you don’t have to reach in there with a lighter.)
Ion engines will probably stop the food from rotting by sterilising it, but I don’t think you’ll have much luck cooking with them. Maybe they’ll get hot enough, like those electric stovetops?
Solid rockets would probably be too inconvenient - can’t turn up or down the heat, and the burning chunks of fuel they expel probably aren’t good for the taste - though I’m sure some Kerbal chefs swear by them.
Squad: Okay team, we need a reeeeeally crappy engine to plug into the game. Any ideas?
Brad: TELL ME MORE
Maybe they can be convinced to throw in fire extinguishers held on by duct tape as a joke engine.
@@KertaDrake Honestly, I would use that.
@@arjun_amin They could literally put in a trampoline and players would somehow find a way to get to Jool and back with it.
@@KertaDrake Indeed
@@Darenz-cg9zg I just stick a pair of linear RCS ports to the sides of my capsule, or maybe an OscarB and Ant if I'm feeling generous.
Next video I swear he’s gonna go to orbit with only the Kerbal EVA pack and 7 decouplers
what if its actually possible
@bestPlayer_xu yeah lol
how about no engines
7 decouplers?! what kinda heavyweight behemoth are we dealing with? I'm insulted you think Brad would use anymore than FOUR. smh.
Lol
Loving the new "MALE DEFAULT" tattoo Jeb's rocking on his forehead in this video. Did the poor CEO lose a bet with one of his junkyard employees?
Monoprop to orbit is impressive, making it an SSTO is next-level.
Landing fail montage please, I've watched your stream ;)
I'm a little disappointed the cargo plane wasn't still sitting on the VAB roof when the orbiter returned. Would've made for a hell of a tight landing, but with all that landing gear the cargo plane could probably have made a passable backstop for if the landing went too wrong.
"And I can find a single thing wrong with this" XD
There's never a video of yours that I don't check out as soon as I can, delightful as always.
You even managed to make the uninteresting cargo plane's landing interesting.
Bravo.
I thought I saw a little hop on that landing, but after several re-watches it was just some schmutz on my glasses. 10/10
2:14 "Aileron roll"
Star Fox: "What's that?"
That was the most beautiful landing I've ever seen
Bradley Whistance: Uploads at midnight
My sleep schedule: hello there
Relatable
General Insomni!
3 years after upload, i've seen it twice before, and yet for some reason, i still want to watch it instead of going to bed
Great video mate, always achieving the impossible, good luck and stay safe. 🚀
Bradley's videos are the kinds I first like then watch and they never disappoints.
Bradley, this is amazing. To this day, I have no idea how you manage to keep doing impossible things that I never even considered before like it was nothing.
I'm finding myself missing the traditional format of The Odyssey by Bill, though. IDK, something about the classical music and the oddball narrative making commentary on real-world events. Will we ever see a return to this format?
The cargo space plane just squashed the mono SSTO lol
Helicopters: we can land on helipads
Bradley: Hold my Monoprop. Plane
I just discovered your videos, you’re a madman!!!
Dear Squad: Please put some better monoprop engines in the game so that we can expand this SSTO concept
- Sincerely, gamers.
however, monoprop engines are pretty shit in real life as well. im not holding my breath
You can just edit the part config of the existing engines if you want to improve their performance
#buffthepuff
Dude, that cargo plane landing tho, that just got you a new sub
Next video: 17 orbits + deorbits of a single SSTO without refueling
I hate how underrated your content is, you should definitely be more popular than you are now.
I always love a good Bradley Whistance video. You certainly push the physics of this game to its limits. Great job!
Wow, such a butter-smooth landing! Well done 👍👍👍
2:08 look who’s flying the plane lol
I can't belive noone mentioned how he called 163m/s of DV "alot"
It's double his monthly dV Budget, which is a lot.
Number of times Brad has done something I have considered 100% impossible: 4
No he's done it918272 times
Thank you TH-cam gods for recommending me this, also thank you Bradley Whistance for the SSTO accent tip
Man, that was pure bravery! Nice stuff!
God dammit dude, you got me staring at you tryna land that thing on a building and I missed my apoapsis on the left screen.
Bradley is the only guy that calls 163 m/s of delta v a lot
Orbiting with the "Spider" engine is great!
Just casually does a low pass above the mountains while burning up at mach 3
The 6 dislikes are from sentient 'Puff' engines
This is more than your regular science.
This is...
**rocket** science.
Have you considered submitting something to the Upilson Initiative? I'm sure your epic creations will be a great addition to the project.
The vab landing is soooo epic
You really stuck the landing there with this one!
Wait, if "Bill came in for the final approach" on the cargo plane, who the heck is flying the mono-plane?
0:11
Jebediah: People who don't know
Bill: People who know
This guy is amazing!
Brad: Fairly normal
*uses tailfins as wings*
Thank you for your work :)
“Some fully fleshed out rocket engines that run on monopropellant” I mean, it’s just the one, the Puff, and I’m not really sure it’s fully fleshed out either. You’d think there’d be some advantage to using it, when really the only thing it’s notable for is being physicsless (back in my day that was massless)
Part of me feels like using a cargo plane to get to the top of the mountain is cheating, but another part of me knows that if anyone would consider it cheating, it would be you. But you did it anyway
Highly compressed fuel tanks be like: 👁👄👁
Honestly, landing the cargo plane on helipad was more impressive than the rest
My proudest moment in KSP was when I overshot the runway with a shuttle. I did a split-s and landed the other way on the runway. I immediately retired that version of the shuttle because it couldn't be topped.
Well done!! Next, monoprop SSTO to Duna!
I love this channel
We need to see this redone to go to one of the moons using heat shield wings.
Next: SSTO with no engines of any and all kinds to orbit.
0:26 "Hopefully make it to *a* moon and back" yep bois, looks like we're going interplanetary again
1:29 Beautiful voice crack.
Hey Brad, great video. Got a challenge for you as I've never seen you use the newer propellers/ducted fanblades:
Build and fly an SSTO to Eve, Duna, Laythe and back to Kerbin using ONLY electric rotor propeller/fanblade power and ion propulsion (no decoupler or kraken drive shenanigans of course)
I suppose you could call it the "No liquid fuel challenge"?
Good idea, no idea if it's possible to reach orbital speed like that though in a single stage.
@(S)-Riley Dunn the problem is eve. I dont know if you could ever reach orbital speed with props and ions on layth. Maby if you had a nuclear engin, but I'm not sure.
bill forgot to put his gear down for the landing
you deserve at least 1 million subs
If bradley was in charge of NASA, we'd go to pluto for only 5$
the first video youtube thinks is Kerbal Space Program 2
I can’t wait to see what you and the wider KSP community will do when ksp 2 releases
I remember when the Puff was first added you could make an SSTO with just three RCS tanks and three engines
“Bill”
Corner: Jebediah Kerman
I cant even build a flyable spaceplane while you qualify to work at skunkworks
Up next: puff-only Jool 5 (no refueling)
Ideas of mission:
_Fly-by all planets and moons of the stock game with less than 1000 m/s of Delta-V from LKO
_Fly at the highest altitude only with propellers ( personnaly I broke 22 800 m)
Or make a video who learn advanced aerodynamics 🤩
keep up the good work
This really makes me want to start playing ksp again
Next video: wheels to orbit
i mean there was that one thing with catapults for the last push....
I feel like you know more about this game than the actual devs do
This does looks like a tie dagger interceptor from star wars but it's wings was flipped.
Idea: the eva parachute basically weighs nothing and gives a LOT of lift. could you possibly paraglide to LKO to save dV?
The Kerbals create a lot of drag if I remember correctly.
@@josephpentony4804 The ridiculous amounts of lift _could_ potentially make up for it, though.
@@Tr0lliPop I suppose, but you would need to fly at a low speed for a long time to minimize drag losses. And it might be a good idea to test if the parachute works when the kerbal is shielded by a fairing or utility bay.
I was just thinking today, when will Brad make another video, and here it is =]
Cool guy moment
A brad video without massive part clipping hardly a brad video at all
Hey it’s a good landing if you can walk away from it- and an even better one if the plane is intact after the landing- so good job!
Vacuum engine ssto. Like only the terrier, cheers, wolfhound, and the poodle
Next video: Tylo and back using RCS thruster blocks
Now I wonder whether a heat shield winged vehicle could eke more out of the Puff engine.
I did not know that the puff’s Isp was so bad. Also, now do that in RSS.
Rss sstos are fucking huge and useless
@bestPlayer_xu what????? This sounds absolutely fucking insane!!! Give me a link right now please. If he recorded this ofc. Would be AWESOME to see this
Plane go zoooooooom
7:30 That's why you set your front gear's brakes to 50%
Challenge: launch escape systems only to orbit
i wish i knew calculus as well as you do know aerodynamics and space mechanics!
just so you know, the pass over the mountains was 44.8 meters above it
Edit: I looked at it again and the closest he got was actually 43.6 m
I once contemplated using "Puff" engines for a Gilly Lander, I wasn't going for particularly high Delta-V since you don't need that for landing on gilly, I just wanted it to be as light as possible, and Monopropellant weighs less than liquid fuel (if I'm not mistaken)
Honestly a direct return mission is much easier and cheaper anyway
Crappy idea to be honest. You save mass using chemical feul as you can use an engine that is simply better.
@@GamingWithNikolas True
Yes!!! Another Video!!!!! :D
at 2:07 you said bill approached the VAB but the pilot is jeb. Don't blame you though they don't seem to differ in the facial area.
The puff is also great to make a Messerschmitt Me-163 replica - it is just terrible enough to replicate the first rocket-plane‘s engine, with no more than a few minutes of powered flight and then gliding to a landing on skids (wheels were ditched on take-off). I uploaded one to steam
i think its time for the decoupler ssto
3 months later... SSTO to Eve and back with just monopropellant (no ISRU)
"Puff" engines are not bad. They are meant to be used in a vacuum, as well as the "Nerv".
they really are
they have an isp of 250 in a vacuum
bill came in for the finale approch to the vab
the kerbal: jebediah
No seat for me?
No engines to everywhere challenge. At this point im convinced u can actually do it
The thumbnail looks like it was ripped out of starwars
Nothing broke! XD