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- Taking a look at the People's Republic of China and more specifically, the People's Liberation Army (PLA) in the Command and Conquer Generals universe/timeline. Timestamps, corrections and/or clarifications posted below.
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Corrections/Clarifications:
For the Helix's gatling cannon, it doesn't actually replace the standard machine gun on the helicopter. Rather, it acts as an upgrade to it, as the standard machine gun can still be seen engaging ground targets with the gatling cannons.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:04 Outbreak of War
04:06 People's Liberation Army and Military Strategy
08:17 Arsenal - Structures
22:37 Arsenal - Infantry
31:03 Arsenal - Armor
44:54 - Arsenal - Aircraft
50:45 - Generals Support Power and Outro
Footage and some images and/or concept art from Command and Conquer Generals and the Zero Hour Expansion. All of which are properties of Electronic Arts. Other images, videos, or 3D renderings might be used from other sources, and credit belongs to those respective owners. Other 3D renders and/or video animations are custom created by myself.
Music Used:
The Dragon Awakes - Frank Klepacki
The Middle Kingdom - Frank Klepacki
Defenders of Peace - Bill Brown, Mikael Sandgren
Red Army Rising - Frank Klepacki
Don't Stop Till it's Over - Bill Brown, Mikael Sandgren
Runaway Train - Frank Klepacki
Mother of All Weapons - Frank Klepacki
Helix Armada - Bill Brown, Mikael Sandgren
Overlord Moving - Frank Klepacki
Firestorm - Frank Klepacki
#commandandconquer #generals - เกม
Helix: I can transport an Overlord.
Also Helix: 5 infantry max, take it or leave it.
Helix can carry tank?
@@muhammadsyaifullah4788 for normal china and some generals, it can, in a campaign, they sent dozers
Overlord with Bunker upgrade: Deal
yep
You can transport the infantry inside and overlords bunker
"China will grow larger" is one of those memories that will never be removed from me I'll thank you for doing content for the C&C series
Lets build.
That's not a good spot. Try another.
That's a very good plan, general.
Sorry sir; I can't build there.
Why do I always get the dirty jobs?
Glad to see you're still covering Generals Lore. Keep up the great work!
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Fr I literally grew up with this game and never really bothered to research the lore but you made it easy, enjoyable and extremely well put together!
Native Chinese here, and I want to share some lores and personal views
1、For the command center, it says "人不犯我，我不犯人"，means:"If we are not offensed by the others, we should not offense the others."
But this sentence actually has a second part: "人若犯我，我必犯人”， means:" if we are offensed by the others, we are definitely going to offense the others."
2、For the airfield, it says: "空军军官学校“, means: "Officer academy of the airforce", this definitely came from the Republic of China Military Academy established in 1924, located in Huangpu dock, Guangzhou. On its gate it says: "陆军军官学校”，means: "Officer academy of the army".
They just changed one Chinese character, it became the airforce instead of the army.
This style is quite recognizable, because none of the other military academies has a sign like that.
3、Red guards, this is the name for the militias during the culture revolution(1966-1976) who supported the revolution, actually doesn't exist in the PLA's ranks.
The rifles used by the red guards, seems like the type-56 semi-automatic rifle, but the model quality is quite low, so can't actually tell.
However the type-56 is an old rifle, at the time of this game was developed, the PLA actually already equiped with type-95 automatic rifles.
4、The nuclear missle, looks strange. At the time of this game was developed, the PLA had two type of ICBMs, DF-5 and DF-31, neither of them looks like that.
From its model it actually looks like the US Minuteman-3 ICBM.
And it's also strange that China is heavily rely on nuclear technologies in the game. When we detonated our first nuke in 1964, we announced that we will not use nukes first, and we will not use nukes upon countries and regions without nukes. The PLA nuclear arsenal is also relatively small compared to the US and USSR/Russia.
The nuclear power plans are kind of OK, but the nuclear powered tanks are just rediculous. Also, we never developed nuclear cannons like that, it's definitely inspired by the M65 atomic cannon developed by the US, that portrait is quite typical.
5、The Tiananmen in the first mission of the base game campaign is about half accurate.
It has some details, like the two sentenses on it, on the left it says:"中华人民共和国万岁", means:" Long live the People's Republic of China", on the right it says:"世界人民大团结万岁”, means:"Long live the great union of the people from all over the world", these sentenses truely exist.
But in the middle it actually has a portrait of Chairman Mao, it's missing in the game.
6、The H-6 model in the game is wrong, it's more like a B-52, look at its 8 engines, while H-6 has only 4, at the roots of its wings in pairs.
Also, "H" comes from "轰", pronounced "hong", means "Bombard", it's the sign of bombers in Chinese millitary.
The Y-8 model is much better.
Similarly, "Y" comes from "运", pronounced "yun", means "carry", it's the sign of cargo planes, you may see that the recently developed cargo plane is named Y-20.
Also, Y-8 is a medium size cargo plane, more like the C-130, it can't even carry a tank, not to mention air-dropping it.
7、The names of those generals are strange, more like names of people from Hongkong or Taiwan, instead of main land China.
When translating a Chinese name into English, in main land China we always us the Pinyin of the name directly, and it never spells like that.
I can't even recognize what those names actually are in Chinese.
In summary, the Chinese fashion in the game is pretty powerful, but it doesn't really feel like Chinese, more like the USSR for me.
The developers definitely needed some native advisors for the game.
The gameplay is super awesome so it's ok, but accuracy is appreciated
IMO, they may have been thinking of having a Russian faction in the game, as a lot of the GLA areas are actually on the borders of the Russian Federation, but the Red Alert series already had Russia as a faction, and also back in the 2000s Russia was called a non factor in its military, while the propaganda hype in Western circles was that China was building an army in the 2000s. Being as how Electronic Arts was an American Software developer, and the time of the game development was in the 2000s with the “China Rising” hype, and we already had Russia as a faction in the Red Alert games, they did China instead in the Generals games
It is clear the developers prioritized gameplay over accuracy, the rangers as well aren't G.I.'s. I think they gave the Chinese infantry semi-automatic rifles to set them apart from the others. It also makes their horde gimmick much easier to implement if they fire shots one at a time.
The jets actually look quite a lot like the J20 which would be quite fitting as the Chinese counterpart to the F22. Of course the issue being that the game itself predates the J20 by over a decade.
The nuclear focus of China here is indeed quite odd. The massive nuclear arsenal of Russia and the US are kind of redundant and are mainly leftovers from the flexing of the cold war. They don't really serve a purpose but just neither neither is willing to get rid of them. However over 70% of US warheads are kept in storage. Not quite deactivated but actually putting them on missiles and launching them will take weeks or months.
The nuclear cannon was also never put into service by the US and was never seriously considered. There was some speculation but it was never actually taken all that seriously. The canon itself was just way too large and cumbersome and it was deemed that heavy artillery was obsolete. That the only artillery would be light and medium and that the role of heavy artillery would be conducted by aircraft.
I think they considered adding a portrait of Mau but they decided against it as that might be a little too controversial.
With the names I think they more so named them after Chinese Americans.
I think the USSR similarities were actually intentional. Generals was the game made to follow up the smash hit Red Alert 2. I think they intentionally designed China to be the new version of the Soviets from Red Alert.
I still find it very weird the game is banned in China though. Cause the story features the US getting humiliated and turning inwards and China taking it's place as the world's dominant superpower. They also characterize China as brutal but not unreasonable.
@@MrMarinus18 The reason why the Chinese Communist Party stated for banning it was because it portrayed China as very eager to use nuclear weapons whereas the Communist Party policy is to use nukes as a last resort against a powerful invading enemy like say if the United States invaded. This is equally nonsensical, as the GLA was the aggressor in the game and while it isn't America invading China, The GLA is an invading force into mainland China nonetheless. Guess being so stuck up in your own propaganda campaigns makes you nonsensical.
The Chinese J-20 wasn't in service by the time of the game but the concept was advertised to the world before that fighter ever entered service for the Chinese Air Force, developing an actual fighter jet for a military is years in the making, and this game is meant to be set in the year 2020, so with the game being in 2020, China having J20s isn't that far off. Also China has elements of the Yuri faction from the Red Alert 2 Expansion in terms of Black Lotus being able to take control of enemy buildings with computer hacking similar to Yuri Prime being able to mentally control buildings, only when Black Lotus does it she doesn't have to keep focusing on the controlled building, and the enemy has to either recapture it with their own forces or destroy it.
Also just like the Yuri Faction, China has gattling gun weapons including the gattling tank and gattling cannon, along with the Helix Choppers being similar to the floating discs of Yuri.
@@KaosNova2 The inspiration for the GLA is pretty obvious. At the time, we were fighting insurgents who were using guerrilla tactics. In fact, I was deployed to Iraq when Generals came out.
As a native Chinese speaker, I found the slogan on these builds kinda interesting.
Airfiled, 空軍軍官學院 airforce officer academy
Propaganda centre, 停車處 parking area; 立入禁止區域 Exclusion zone (this is written in Japanese expression)
Command centre, 人不犯我，我不犯人，We will not attack unless we are attacked (famous quote from Mao, still being used by CCP today)
and all these Chinese characters are written in traditional Chinese, PRC uses simplified Chinese since 1950s.
Appreciate you translating the slogans for us.
Maybe they are trying to teach their new subjects to be more cultured via more traditional writing? I do not know.
@@dubuyajay9964 could also be to confuse people officers would likely be trained in traditional and way less people know traditional
Are they referring to the command center in the gong thing it's say?
@@canon07 He lists the buildings in his statement.
As the Dozer once said: “What are they, protestors?” When being asked to crush infantry.
As a certain African Warlord once said "Use the uranium shell to clear the feng shui of that area"
I didn't even know they had that line XD
@@slowjamsliver7006 Yeah, all vehicles had lines when ordered to run over infantry...
Obviously cut due to time constraints, just like the POW mechanic...
@@louievelayo4100 Okay, that makes more sense. Though I can definitely say my dozers didn't ever run over that much infantry.
@@lostdamn1285 what game is that from?
There is one thing you missed. The Uranium shells also created a small irradiated area that was somewhat dangerous to infantry. Might be exclusive to Zero Hour.
It's exclusive to Zero Hour and to Tao's faction.
DIdn't know that it only exists only on Vanilla Gen...
General Tao's tank shell are made with pure Uranium, hence the fallout left behind...
Depleted Uranium is less radioactive and used for both civilian(protection during radiotherapy) and military(penetrator rounds) purposes...
Friendly reminder the Dozer has a quote when running over infantry: "Hmm, what are they doing over there? What are they? Protestors?"
I love this game.
Thank you for continuing to keep the memory of this masterpiece game alive. Your videos are really high quality. It is clear that each one of them has been made with care and love for the C&C series.
If you were not already aware, I believe C&C Red Alert 3 Generals got a large update to where things are working better, although as its a mod I haven't tried it out (I don't trust myself to not accidentally break something lol).
Another masterpiece well made by an amazing creator who puts all of his heart into his videos, God bless your soul man this content is legendary, you really do deserve way more support & your channel is definitely underrated tho be sure you've your loyal followers right over here so, keep the great work up you absolute legend, good luck & much love.
*_Generals rhyme_*
"Last time was GLA.
Now we get PLA.
Which leaves us with U.S.A.."
One thing that is useful I found while playing as PLA.
The Horde Guard can actually target the GLA Rocketeers inside the stinger site while the minigunner cannot. It might not be much but it is useful when you want tanks to enter without heavy casualties.
Makes sense, as minigunners are willing to fire on the structure rather than the people inside.
Odd considering the Gatling Tank hits infantry IIRC, I’m going to try playing this again.
Thanks for the coverage Jethild! i know these must take you quite some time to make. Very much appreciated!
So glad to see you still making content. Love your Command N Conquer series.
I remember when you use the infantry general, his Troop crawlers are filled with Minigunners who can shoot out of the vehicle unlike the normal Troop crawler.
>54 min long
>grabs popcorn
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this is the Overlord TANK!!
The Bing chilling tank
I feel overlords are more powerful than a mammoth tank
@@kobra6660 But not as powerful as the Soviet Power Supreme.
First to comment. I've been looking forward to this for a long time. Thank you very much!🙏
Are..you..ready?
The wait is definitely gonna be worth it!
Agreed :)
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Red guard rifle actually does more damage per shot than other factions. I had no idea the listening outposts could show the way the enemy units are going.
Man, I look forward to every one of these videos!
What is next???? Back to Tiberium Lore?
I love youtubers who cover games like generals who don't get enough love by the TH-cam community thanks for this vid mate
I SO LOVE YOUR CHANNEL. My favorite RTS growing up was Generals... and then Tib3 and RA3 afterwards (I know, I'm on the younger side). But I appreciate you keeping them alive. Can't wait for the remasters.
Pros: Can overwhelm the entire force produce faster and also do brute force.
Cons: doesn't have speed and lack of detection or scout and sometimes gla players can turn their weapons against them.
Doesn't have a good base defense and can be destroyed too fast.
Please don't take my social credit.
True. You gotta spend extra money on tank hunters for AT bunkers.
@@nowanimportant8887 when you only gain 300 for supply trucks
-10000000 social credits
@@canon07 Basically, you gotta spend 1900 dollars on a bunker to make it viable for AT duties + 1200 for a gatling cannon to ensure it doesn't get overwhelmed by infantry...which still amounts to the costly defense getting pulverized by artillery.
@@cheenouthao9458 nooooooooo
Putting the profile picture and the game performance together, I think it's clear that the Red Guard wields an SKS rifle/carbine, with the bayonet.
I love the generals lore as it is my fave rts game and getting to have videos like this just makes it better
Ah, finally - the Chinese faction overview. Just what I wanted since the GLA faction overview. I give my thanks to the uploader.
Loving your content always.
"Building the Chinese Empire."
That's a good choice!
Noone can stop China!!
China will go grow larger.
_What are they, protesters?_
"a Very good plan , general"
Nice, good work lad, this is amazing
Great video as always, can't wait for next one
Ditto
Best cover i've ever heard, you sir deserve a great ovation!!!
I hope EA will see this and at least bring Generals remaster...
A bit misinformation on 49:34.
The Gatling Cannon upgrade was mean't to replace machine gun.
It's install normally like overload tank or other upgrades.
Which will fire along with machine gun.
But yeah great video!
Keep doing this content I would like to see China General for sure.
Your right it's a small mistake on my part as it was something I didn't initially notice, since you have to zoom in pretty close to the helix in order to really see the standard machine gun firing with the gatling cannon.
I always love how in depth you go into these
"Building the Chinese Empire"
"China has been Generous"
"Very good plan General"
I read all of these in the dozer voice
Yes I've been waiting for this! Keep up the great work! :D
Can you make more videos about Nod and GDI air force inventory? You already have one about Scrin’s.
Yes, I plan to do videos like that in the future.
@@Jethild Hey, didn't you previously done a video about GDI air force inventory on the Orca aircraft family?
@@LINJ638 That's just for the Orca, not the others like the Dropship, the Command Craft, the Hammerhead and the Firehawk... And whatever the hell those GDI flying things were in that *S🐬!*
Finally more Generals lore! 👍
Welcome back, General.
“I’m here, let’s have an update.”
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Take a shot every time a building is described as "pagoda-style"
*Dead.*
+300 social credits well done video
A somewhat important distinction at 0:35 about the PLA being the military branch of the PRC government. The PLA in essence answers first and foremost to the Chinese Communist Party, which in a single-party state like China is now doesn't mean much but that would be the equivalent of in the USA where the Republican Party and Democrat Party each having their own full fledge militia.
Republicans kind of have one though.
@@taoma9541 Both. Dems have bl m and antifa.
have you been in montana?
i feel like what's happening in command and conquer generals is kind of happening in the real world right now.
Well yes but we didn't have China campaign yet in irl but we have gla campaign at home
@@canon07 What they did in HK is like the 2nd Generals mission in the loosest sense possible...
These videos are so lovingly made & on such a niche topic/game, I adore the effort!
I know it's gonna be a good day when I see a movie dropped by this channel amazing work as always
Its been 3000 years since you last update, finally!
Yeah sorry about that. These ~50 min. videos just take longer to make.
I was playing this game since 2014 and still did not know a thing a bout the lore so thank you for your lore videos
FINALLY!
Love this channel !!
CC forever
How do you only have 21k subscribers? Your lore vids are awesome!
Agreed
Oh, this is AN "OVERLORD TANK" :)
Generals made me love China as a kid. Thank you for the great video!
Love these videos. Some of the add ones like the sat antenna at the internet center I never even noticed. Learn something new everyday.
Love it
I've been waiting for this. Thank you.
Great work!
thanks for shining a light on one of my favourite games. keep up the awesome work dude!
Nice work with this one bud. THis video is a masterpiece!
thanks for the videos my man, stay safe
Woo was waiting for more Generals content!
Finally dude. I've been waiting for these. Its so well done! Keep it up also cant wait for USA
Beautiful work and as always very well detailed.
Thank you for this!
Real life looks to be sliding closer and closer to fiction by the year.
No cold fusion though. :(
Top notch content as always, well done! Thank you for the awesome lore videos!
I wonder what a Terraria lore video would look like if you did it
"This is the Overlord Tank", for the Overpowered Brute Force fuction. If you just wanna whale at the opponent with overwhelming force, this is the function for you.✊
man C&C Generals really is the best
You deserve so much more subs
Agreed
Just amazing quality
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A Dragon Awakes!
Great work!!! I love your videos, take care.
Great Video. Good Job. Thank you!
FINALLY!! I've been waiting for this for so long. The lore of the People's Republic of China.
Edited: I think the Red Guard uses the old Sks Soviet Rifle to arm their infantry, it isnt a bolt action but a semi automatic rifle.
Makes me want to reinstall C&C Generals and play again.
Overlord Tank.
I'd love to see you cover total annihilation
ME TOO!!!
Really great content
Ditto
He delivers yet another fantastic video
Another great Video 🥰🥰
Great Job
23:23 I believe that's supposed to be the Type 63 rifle, the sort of Chinese knockoff of the SKS...
26:40 According to some unofficial supplementary materials(dunno if the Wiki covered it), how the hacker shuts down structures is that they implant a powerful computer virus to tamper with a structure's internal systems... Of course, they gotta maintain the uplink to make sure the virus does its job... Doing it on US and hostile PLA structures is pretty self-explanatory, how they shut down GLA structures though... I can't explain that either...
42:24 The Nuke Cannon's portrait is a reference to the M65 Atomic Cannon, a US artillery cannon that fired tactical nuclear shells which is exactly what the Nuke Cannon does...
48:27 Appropriately enough, the Ka-27's NATO designation is "Helix"...
51:40 Ah yes, the prototype of what would become the Rising Sun's Emperor's Rage protocol line... Well, minus the movement speed penalties...
Also Black Napalm aka Purifying Flame, *AM I RIGHT!?*
I also always thought the Red Guard was carrying some type of SKS type rifle just based off the unit animation. So it was strange seeing the manual say it was a bolt action rifle.
@@Jethild i think the dev confuse and thought the semi-auto as bolt action or to try hammering the point that the red guard is a slow firing unit unlike the fully-auto of the other force.
@@phucletran2860 Yeah, definitely leans to oversight from the devs...
@@Jethild I mean, most modern assault rifles have a "semi auto" option. In fact, military training often encourages to use this before going 3 round burst or full auto to avoid the issues that can come from undisciplined "spray and pray" fire and to save ammo. Why that is the only firing mode on the other hand, I don't know. Assuming time restraint, money restraint, lack of coders, or to avoid making the horde bonus too op.
Edit: Missed the comment on bolt action. Apologies. I think this is probably game staff/company error.
Well that's made in China for you.
Another thing of note: That's not a smokestack on the nuclear power plant, it is a cooling tower.
It is steam, that rises from it, not smoke.
Yoo have been waiting for this
keep it up man
love your videos❤
"Mellllt, ebryting will MELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLT"
- Tsing Shi Tao
Love it thanks bro 😎
Ah, the best faction, thanks a lot
A new video after 2 months? I love your vids but unfortunately it's not enough but, you do you. I'll rewatch it if ever
Ive been waiting for this!
I thought COC has no content on my country, this is interesting
CoC?
@@dubuyajay9964 Command and Conquer
Nice!
This video is great, hoping for the last faction of the game, USA.
China could always use more people
This quote came from the Chinese POW Truck which is the cut unit in the game.
What does the POW Trucks do anyway and the reason they didn't implemented it in the game?
@@mr.herobrinegaming844 well if I recall, POW Trucks all factions was meant to have their own equivalent of the POW Trucks, the trucks are meant to detain enemy infantries in the battlefield and then they take them back to the prison to power up their support powers.
For the USA its the Detention Camp, for GLA its the Prison and for China it's the Propaganda Center.
The reason why they were never implemented in the game and why they were cut is due to time constraints, but in some mods, the POW Logic was restored making it useful for the player to have.
@@westomegawolf6073 Yes, each prison has a specific ability attached to it... For China, it's "Defector" which converts an enemy unit over(dunno what it does with more prisoners)... For the US, it's "Intelligence" while reveals enemy locations(more prisoners, the reveal last longer)... Originally from the Detention Camp, but got transferred to the Strategy Center after the Detention Camp was dropped in Zero Hour... And for the GLA, it's "Demoralize" which sends enemy units in a panic, reducing combat effectiveness, most likely after seeing... You know what ISIS does to those prisoners who were forced to say their last words before the videos fade to black?... Yeah...
@@louievelayo4100 yes each prison has those abilities for each of the factions, but they were never implemented in the game well except for the Intelligence support power for the US since that support power can be used to reveal the enemies on the map which is useful for US Generals to spot their enemy's locations.
In some mods, the POW Logic was restored.
And what's ISIS means?
@@westomegawolf6073 I don't know what it means specifically, but it is a real life terrorist group.
Generals looks like an amazing game. I wish it was on GOG. Too bad there aren’t more civs.
You can find the C&C ultimate collection key on G2A for give or take $10, but it’s for origin if you’re willing to put up with it
I have good news..its on steam now!
i have learn more command and conquer lore by your videos since myself playing multiple command & conquer games since 2006, i wish the game would deliver information better to its gamer community.
Thankyou loads for spending time & uploading these videos to youtube.😊
This dude needs social credits
omg. Time to install again. This game is timeless
Another great video for the greatest game.
Top quality mate, loving this series! Any thoughts on doing RA 2 or 3?
Fun fact: in the uncensored German version of the game (the one who people aren't replaced by cyborgs like in every other german C&C game bar Tiberium Wars for whatever reason), the Battlemaster is called Fist Mao's