@@DrWhite Hey, DrWhite. Just got Tib Sun recently to settle an old score with my childhood and your videos act like a pretty good guide. RIP to all the Jump Jet infantry who sacrificed themselves to spot the NOD ICBMs.
It was the golden age of C&C. Despite the issues, this remains probably my favourite game in the entire franchise. The atmosphere is just incredible and the cutscenes feel like an actual TV show.
Fr, and just before that the way Kane roars “Kane LIVES” in the background reveling he is still alive as everyone cheers, that was such good pay off the way the story up to the point came together, still gives me chills.
Fun fact but if you're playing Command and Conquer 3, if you look really closely at a deployed Nod Emissary, it displays 3 rotating holographic screens. Those three screens are actually the scene you see when Kane is addressing that room full of Nod soldiers during Hassan's execution.
"In the name of Cain!" "Cain lives in death!" "In the name of Cain!" "Cain lives in death!" "In the name of Cain!" "CAAAAAAIIIIIIIN LIIIIIIIIIVEEEEEES!!!!" So cheesy, so good.
I noticed... We need a crossover from you with Dr White. You could make us cnc fans cry. Maybe this series has a deep crysis of existing in the future, but you both really could kick something forward for the fans.
After I watched your video, I started to think that General Jack Granger was around the same age as General Solomon and probably serve alongside during the 1st Tiberium War.
I got a smidge of vibe I was watching an internet historian video... you sort-off had his tone...and the way your vid is edited, it does give the vibe to it heh
Finally got around to watching this video. Highly entertaining and a solid look at what I think is one of the more underrated entries in the CnC series! Also thanks for the shout out and the name is pronounced Je (rhymes like the word 'eh') and thild (rhymes with 'field').
You can use Control click to make units shoot the ground. This is very useful for Ghost Stalkers since you can have them shoot the ground past a building and the shot will also hit the building, allowing you to destroy it without having to use their bomb.
the only thing that is annoying about this; is that Stealth generators tend to make units who attack the buildings flashing from visable to not; you either shoot around the middle of the building to continue firing without worry though
For over 10 years, I've had nightmares because of Ion Storms. My childhood had me occasionally screaming as I wake up, because in my dream it suddenly started an Ion Storm. The dream most of the time wasn't even related to Tiberian Sun!
I never had once seen any full gameplay nor story of tiberium sun. But the fact that you managed to cover the whole game while giving out top notch comedy along the way deserves a high praise
Tiberian Twilight 2: Kane's Bath. No but seriously, it's good to see this getting a writ long video, it's such a fascinating and important game that has a lot wrong with it.
"Commander, we're sending you to South America for this mission. Your goal is to raid a sizeable GDI forward operating base for its bath soaps. I'm sure you know how valuable such luxury items are these days. Kane demands bubbles, commander, and it would be unwise to keep him waiting."
My god, that "fire ze missile!" reference is one you just dont see anymore. I expect nothing less from a video about a quarter century old game that I loved in my childhood!
Mad respect for linking to those two other content creators for their work on lore. I really appreciate you doing that - makes me feel like you just want your viewers to have a good experience.
Checked out no string prod - absolutely fantastic lore videos. Unfortunately a lot of repeating once you've seen 3-4 of them, but insane production quality and very well written and researched. Made my spark for the C&C and Tiberium universe re-kinde!
The coolest thing about General Solomon other than the fact that he is portrayed by James Earl Jones, is perhaps the fact that he was supposedly the player character of the GDI campaign in the previous game, at least according to the "CnC Bible" that Westwood made shortly after the release of Tib Sun. Granted, that document does have some notable discrepancies such as McNeil not being called McNeil and having a whole different name.
You took me so far down memory lane... Even now in our 30s, my cousin still tells his wife about when we were 9 and he would wake up at my place at 6 am during summer holidays to the sounds of "Unit lost" and "AAARRHHH". I always remember the game looking beautiful and clean. But seeing it again... Wow. And the haunting soundtrack! Engraved so deep in my brain. Thank you, friend.
I love this game. Balance is fucked, but the atmosphere and music make up for it ten times over. I also have no idea why, but in all of my playthroughs I've never experienced as many bugs as you did in this one video. Anyway, I think that RA2 and TibSun are the best games in the entire C&C franchise, but for different reasons.
Played this so much as a kid and tbh, I don’t remember a single bug. At least, none I didn’t induce myself trying to mod the game. Lmao modding this was really something else, spent so many days, so much frustration when a mod I had been working on just bugged out to unplayability and I had to start over again.
I had the decade collection Tiberian sun worked so i played that RA2 didnt work so it took me til 2020 to actually play thru RA2 and YR I like RA2 more cus its more gamey and fun Tib sun is good but it has better atmosphere and wacky future tech
I've never related to a video more in my life. We're the same age and hold the same worship for this game. Got the NOD crest tatoo'd on my ankle. great content, commander
Man I loved that game. Played it for years. I also feel like back then games were more mature. I always loved the option you had to also play the evil faction. The missions, although sometimes badly balanced, we're quite creative and always different. Westwood was a great company.
Oh god the memories this brings back. It reminds me how hard some of the micro-heavy missions were for little old me back then. It was only after revisiting the game at least a dozen years later that I could finally beat the campaigns. It also amused me how you dubbed the lovely genocidal AI a "Ro-bro". This gave me a couple of good laughs, cheers for that!
C&C Twisted Insurrection is one of the better C&C:TS "mods" (it's completely standalone but uses mostly TS assets) and acts as a C&C 1.5 as if Nod won the first war. Pretty good, but can be tedious earlier on with loads of non-base building missions.
Hardly any vanilla assets in it currently, doubles up the lovely atmosphere that TS has. Highly recommend it, especially if you like the challenging/BS missions of TS 🤣
I played a lot more RA2 in my life, but this game's grittyness, graphics and atmosphere always appealed to me too. I remember the campaign kicked my ass a lot more.
This game was my jam, the first true RTS I ever played properly and absolutely loved it to pieces. A lame to fame for me, for a period of about six months I was the 14th highest ranked player on the leaderboard, and considering that I never realised took MP too seriously I was pretty impressed with myself. You should explore the wealth of Tib Sun mods out there, there are plenty still up for grabs on moddb. Loved the video man, keep up the great work!
I remember how I, being a child, try to complete it, and now, looking at this, nostalgia comes. Jeez, how many years have passed... Thank you, Dr White, it was like teleport back in time. )
Reposting this comment so I can pin it. "When Firestorm?" - The firestorm video is pretty much done. I've just gotta do a music pass and add a few extra bits of missing footage here and there. Together with the planned Multiplayer and Mod sections, that video is almost as long as this one, hence why I split it. ...That and Vegas kept crashing whenever I opened the project file, so I had to cut it in two. "I miss multiplayer/this game!" - you can play tibsun multiplayer right now via cncnet! Heck, you can even download the full game with a modern resolution patch from them too! "Why not make a TTS-style C&C video?" - The TTS-team has a lot of ongoing projects ATM (Check alfas patreon!) and I don't know what EA's rules on fan products are, but if the stars aligned then I'd jump at the chance to pitch a one-off C&C-based video. I'm thinking something short showing the mundane life's of infantry in the style of the old newgrounds Tankmen cartoons.
Isn't there a C&C2 3D animated series here on youtube? I forgot it's name and can't find it with what I have, but I'm certain it exists. Edit: found it: th-cam.com/users/DirectandDominatevideos
I played this game when I was a kid. One thing I remember vividly is that Nod Artillary unpatched actually created real craters in the ground. They would alter the landscape. This sounds really cool and it was except that if say you clipped the side of a building the crater would go under the building. The game would then realize the building was improperly placed as there was not enough ground underneath it and the building would be destroyed. To add to that say you managed to fight off the artillary but they had still damaged your base. You would not be able to build anything on the crater because the building wouldn't fit in the space. So large swathes of land could be rendered unusable and you'd either have to give up or move base somewhere else.
I used to love this game, hadn’t thought about it in 20 years, popped into my head so searched on TH-cam and this is first video I found 😂 great stuff. A seriously dystopian game I feel, gives me the creeps a bit. Dune 2000 was my OG
I just wanted to let you know that the absurd amount of effort that you put into one-off split second jokes and editing like at 10:47 and 21:21 that most people will probably miss is appreciated by nerds like me who like pausing videos to read everything.
Damn, I loved this game so much as a kid, I remember you could edit a txt file and get any unit in the game to Nod or GDI, or even make custom units. Sadly it always broke the AI to just build the GDI towers with no top on, :( but building mutant bases was my passion
That’s why I used SunEdit2k back in the day, it let you mod easier and only broke the game most of the time as opposed to almost always lol. Damn dude modding this game on your own was so frustrating yet rewarding, and the rush from just building mutant units and stuff that you normally couldn’t lol.
22:10 actually, this side mission can by made easier in ridiculous way: simply move all your forces east and build a base on giand Tib island after destroying a bridge behind you. Later just fix northern bridge to get relatively easy way to the target.
This video was made perfectly, very interesting to watch. I finished campaign over and over on a hard difficulty. I hate the time limit missions badly! because I enjoy to take my time and develop my base and make it beautiful with gates and walls and some pavements lol. at the "New beginning" mission , my timer was never reset to 1 hour after I deployed 1 ICBM as you said this timer isn't correct and you have 3 hours actually. Edit: The timer does resets after 1st ICBM deployed when timer ends
Tiberian Sun is just - MWAH - peak atmosphere/aesthetics for me. It's like the final form of the coolest 80s movie ever, a hybrid of Aliens and the future of Terminator, merged with a bit of Dune for spice (lol). And that soundtrack. *gush* I'd fork over gallons of cash for a Tiberian Sun movie/series if I knew it would manage to capture that 80s scifi action vibe properly. Also, you, No Strings and Jethild are like the Holy Trinity of CNC content on the platform, and I'm so happy you're all tackling it with your own styles, approaches and specialties. I just wish you had future games to keep the fire burning even longer.
How have I never seen this Dr. White guy? This is fantastic! Honestly, I'm surprised you don't have 10x the subs, your editing, comedic voice work, audio and microphone quality and really just general quality of content is great! I know I'm just a one random on the internet but you've got a sub from me and I'll be sending your stuff to all three of my friends. 👍
"If I am cut, do I not bleed?" Literally the best filmed scene in cinema, television and gaming. - - - - - "Healing in Tiberium" should be a song title.
Tiberian Sun is probably my favourite game in the series as well. The missions are interesting and the story feels more interesting than the Red Alert games. You also have really cool looking units and buildings. I loved building a base with asphalt on the ground and then laser fences and firestorm defences etc. it’s also very easy to mod the game. I remember modifying the XML file and added the pyramid into the game and a bunch of other stuff. There are other games in the series that are better in some aspects but Tib Sun has a feel that makes it feel epic in a way the others don’t really manage. Also it was the last game in the series to be released in a big box. I remember walking into the store and buying it. Reading the manual with all the units like I did with RA1. With RA2 coming in a boring old DVD case it lost something. Not to mention the gates. I love the gates. I always love building a base in these games and turtleing and being able to build a gate that automatically lowers for your troops just adds to the feeling. And there are several type of defensive walls that you can build defence in depth and make your enemy have to get through a killing zone to get into your base.
I don’t love tick tanks but as an analog to Titans I thought the idea was that they were faster and once deployed were tougher, but more fragile while mobile.
its glorious, I cant wait for the remaster with working multiplayer Edit: since TTS is on hold and Alphabusa is looking for other lore to explore you think you could persuade him into trying out some C&C projects? ;) edit 2: for mods try twisted insurrection, also firestorm when? edit 3: thanks Doc, you da man
Heart-ing your comment so everyone can see this reply. 1 - you can play multiplayer now via cncnet. Heck, you can even download the full game with a modern resolution patch from them too! 2 - The TTS-team has a lot of ongoing projects ATM (Check alfas patreon!) and I don't know what EA's rules on fan products are, but if the stars aligned then I'd jump at the chance to pitch a one-off C&C-based video. I'm thinking short video showing the mundane life's of infantry in the style of the Tank-men cartoons. 3 - The firestorm video is pretty much done. I've just gotta do a music pass and add a few extra bits of missing footage here and there. Together with the planned Multiplayer and Mod sections, that video is almost as long as this one, hence why I split it. ...That and Vegas kept crashing whenever I opened the project file, so I had to cut it in two.
@@DrWhite EA's rule for fan projects is as long as no money is being made on it, they're ok with it. That's why there is quite a few C&C projects out there.
@@DrWhite Any Battletech stuff in the works? Or at least anyone on the team actually interested enough in that universe to attempt a project? W/the current 40K Exodus and the Battletech Renaissance there would be an audience, especially for new people like how TTS was. Maybe not in the style of TTS but something like it. Short narratives focusing on merc companies or Great House units. Catalyst Game Labs is rly supportive of fan projects rn or at least to the point of neutrality that they dont care if you do it.
"Hell, its about time" - me being happy for a new video to watch. Others have already suggest it but yeah. Twisted Insurection is a pretty good stand alone mod, that looks, sounds and plays just like Tib Sun in a "What if Nod won?" that felt to me as a belivable shift in powers in, with it's only problem being very uneven difficulty, thou quite a few years passed (5 i think?) so they might have fix that, but remember to save often.
I believe why Tiberian Suns atmosphere looks so pulling is maybe because it's environmental design tries to capture the train model landscape look. Because your mind actually sees it like something that is just protraying real life and this keeps it from slipping into the uncanny valley where everything that's not spot-on can break the immersion. I don't know if the environmental Artists for Tiberian sun had this in mind, but to me it absolutely gives me this feeling and it adds to the internal immersion of the game. I mean of course, when you have a generated map that is flat desert, there is none of that to be seen. But if you look at the hand crafted environments in some maps, especially the snow maps with their small cottages, that have a literal train running past them, maybe you can see what i am trying to say.
One of the things that always sticks out to me about this game is all the weird little map triggers and easter eggs. The "X-Mas Tree Farm" that displays the word "Scrooooooge!" if you blow it up on the final Nod mission. The blue colored civilians running laps in the mission where you have to test the Chemical Missiles. The lone civilian trapped on an iceberg in a lake on the mission where you blow up the Mammoth Mk2. The train that runs away and crashes into a GDI turret if you destroy the car blocking its path. Anyway, good video, I hope you do a video on Firestorm. Even though that expansion was a bit disappointing, it has some of the weirder C&C missions, that could make for a fun video.
ive seen a lot of retrospective /game deep dives and such, and 5 mins in, the quality of entertainment and humor in yours powerfully impressed me. i cant wait to see your other videos! this was fresh! if you keep at it, you will inevitably have millions of viewers
Yeah this is definitely my favorite C&C game too, people often focus more on RA2 but for me Tib Sun was always the best due to the great art direction and atmosphere it had, the B-movie story was also just really fun to watch, especially since it had Michal Biehn even in it. I just hope when the eventual remaster happens, they'll do a better job with the MP networking, C&C + RA1 Remaster pack was great (though i wish it came with a bit more QoL stuff) but the MP is messy, you often gotta battle its netcode if you wanna play with some friends.
Stumbled upon this video by chance and I'm happy I did! The narration, music choice, editing and overall presentation are great! Not to mention the scratching of nostalgia itch.
I really enjoyed Outpost 1, too bad that it was never finished before release or fully patched later. There is another obscure game called Millennium 2.2 (Return to Earth) that let's you put bases on planets and moon. You have send probes and ships out to collect resources and defend bases from attacks.
1: played this game for +/- 20 years aswell.. And .. 1. I have NEVER seen the Jumpjet-cheese. My world just opened. It went from black and white, into Tiberium collour. 2: Nods backbone is ARTILLERY. You can ''walk'' 2 squads of 4 across almost any map with some AA troops and eliminate just about EVERYTHING. 3. The train mission after Vega went eye-candy-happy is a crime. 4. Taking over a GDI base to kill all the mutants is top-NOD and its the mission I relish the most. Screw the whole '' Kill the mutants '' theme, they nicked one of our obelisks of light and that ''ticks'' us off. 5. Cyborg commando = best boi. 6. The Mammoth Mk. II is overated as F- 7. You, sir. Are CABAL in human form. That many cyborgs should be illigal. 8. The Geneva convention and protocols do not exist. 9. Peace trough power.
"They even built this fucking Outpost 2 looking space station. Fuck me that's a joke no one's going to get" That's where you're wrong bucko. The Blight is approaching
The nod sidemission for the Sarajevo is actually neat, you can get mammoth tanks to pretty much cheese the mission and it removes GDI attacks in the next mission which are massive waves of titans. Also shame that you didn't note that a few mission had alternate objectives in case of failure of primary like if you missed the train in the mission after hammerfest you would get a base and instead have to do a larger longer mission or in the jailbreak mission if u took too long or didn't capture the radar at the initial base Oxanna would be moved to the large base.
Yeah, as a child I even thought that the game wants the Commander to fail at first in order to do the actual mission and that the shortcut wasn't even possible.
@@lars9925 Yeah tib sun was and still is ahead of how they did something. Not a lot of games let you fail or succeed on your own while having a backup option, much less letting you play that on the same mission. C&C was innovative like that and it goes back to tiberium dawn's first commando mission where you had to destroy a structure in the NOD base but didn't have the full orders as to which and if you got anything but the airfield you had to do an extra mission on that map to take out the full base
6:27 Oh I remember this mission! I believe there is a small secrect passage that you can open up by destroying a dirt ramp. I was so thrilled when finding that out when playing it as a child. 27:23 or was it this mission?… Anyway, the atmosphere of these stealth missions was great.
this video has been recommended to me by youtube for awhile. Finally thought to give it a try and i loved every second of it! Love CNC games and West Wood. Now i have a new channel to watch for my old ass CNC content :)
Huh I always liked Hammerfest. Dont know why but i loved that mission. But I'm glad the allmighty algorithm blessed me with this video. That's some good shit.
Honestly i will never understand Sci-Fi's love for walkers, like if you wanna take them out just hit them in the joints. Only role that i can think off where a walker would be good is as Scouting in wood lands since they can pretty mutch become improvised observation towers.
Funnily enough those reasons are exactly why gdi phases out walkers in TW3. It actually comes to haunt then as the walker design is better suited to red zone enviroments and battlefields - something not flaunts with their own walker
@@OverwatchSniper Yes but so is Tanks,APCS and IFV's and they make more sense as they dont have the same issues as a walker and is mutch cheaper to produce and can be alot more versitile in their roles.
You're like Internet Historian's, Setth's and Mandalore's secret lovechild. Good stuff with the game "reviews". I hope you do Alpha Centauri next. And ty TH-cam algorithm.
Outpost 2 is severely underrated, I still dig out my old disc every once in a while. I love the art in the Big Fucking Box™ it came in as well, so good.
@@LeoInterVir Oh, me too, greatly enjoyed and even managed to complete the game once. Tough it took me years to realize that it wasn't just me doing it wrong, or missing some important information due to my lack of English knowledge... but that it was some buildings literally doing nothing.
_"The two of them cover the world FAR better than I ever could."_ You say that, but I don't know you and 2.5 mins in you already got me hooked and confident I'll be enjoying this. Your production style is ON POINT, sir. Also; I enjoyed that Outpost 2 joke, that game was legit when windows actually cared to run it. Good god. Remember the years when Windows XP wouldn't run most DOS or Win 95 games and new hardware just barely ran a nearly stable DOSBox, let alone VMware? I went SO LONG without classic EVA's sweet voice.
Oh this is a fucking hilarious summary of the story overall, I lost my shit with that transition to the Nod Campaign. Though I must say I am surprise that you like the Nod Campaign more then the GDI campaign given how you seem to consider a few of the Nod missions as the worst in the game. Have to ask, given how Tiberian Sun is your favorite but what do you think of Tib Wars and Kane's Wrath?
Nods campaign has more fun missions than gdi, who have a lot of save scummy mutant commando and 'build army rush base' levels. TW and KW are pretty damn good, even if they're a lot less forgiving and mess with the plot a lot. Biggest mistake was making tib corrupted areas just weird crystal lands and not the alien landscapes of tibSun
@@DrWhite if there was ever a proper C&C 4, want to see the Forgotten to return as their own faction along with the weird Alien landscape. Could have it mix with the current crystal landscape to combine the two styles overall like “Tiberium Oasis” within the Red Zones. I mean they’re like the only other friendly group in the lore who can work with GDI while also have very interesting lore themselves so why not have them come back? Could even be super effective against the Scrin.
Twisted Insurrection is a great mod, though it has some glitches and is vastly harder than TS. WarZone is another popular mod, but it instead focuses on graphics, balancing, and adding new units rather than changing everything like TI. Both are stand-alone.
Hey White, I just want to say thanks for doing this. I have never had a chance to play Tib sun or renegade, so I am glad your doing these video's to fill in what I don't know of C&C in an entertaining manner thank you.
![C&C 3 Tiberium Wars - GDI Campaign On Hard - No Commentary With Cutscenes [1080p]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/75aW8wAJf_s/mqdefault.jpg)
What is the track playing at 8:30? Amazing one
SYNTHETIK: Legion Rising OST- Cyberpunk Combat 1.
I get this question so often I'm just going to pin this comment.
@DrWhite Oh, that OST is good stuff.
@@DrWhite Hey, DrWhite.
Just got Tib Sun recently to settle an old score with my childhood and your videos act like a pretty good guide.
RIP to all the Jump Jet infantry who sacrificed themselves to spot the NOD ICBMs.
It was the golden age of C&C. Despite the issues, this remains probably my favourite game in the entire franchise. The atmosphere is just incredible and the cutscenes feel like an actual TV show.
Hassan's execution is probably one of the most criminally underrated epic cutscenes in video game history.
Fr, and just before that the way Kane roars “Kane LIVES” in the background reveling he is still alive as everyone cheers, that was such good pay off the way the story up to the point came together, still gives me chills.
@@fromthefire4176 A moment so epic, Frank made it part of the C&C Remastered soundtrack
It was pretty neat wasn't it. The same actor also played the main villain in 24 season 5
Fun fact but if you're playing Command and Conquer 3, if you look really closely at a deployed Nod Emissary, it displays 3 rotating holographic screens. Those three screens are actually the scene you see when Kane is addressing that room full of Nod soldiers during Hassan's execution.
"In the name of Cain!"
"Cain lives in death!"
"In the name of Cain!"
"Cain lives in death!"
"In the name of Cain!"
"CAAAAAAIIIIIIIN LIIIIIIIIIVEEEEEES!!!!"
So cheesy, so good.
"The Tiberian Sun has risen!"
HE SAID THE THING!
Name another person who says the name of a game, I will wait
Yuri in Ra2 says Command and Conquer during Yuri’s revenge
Looking thru list of bugs:
"Artillery never miss"
Daymmm.... I thought that was a feature...
Fantastic video, lovely summation of a somewhat overlooked classic!
Oh and thank you for the really kind words
Look guys. LOOK! We need more concrete.
the crossover we all need
I noticed... We need a crossover from you with Dr White. You could make us cnc fans cry. Maybe this series has a deep crysis of existing in the future, but you both really could kick something forward for the fans.
@@goldengerd6040 Well, isn't Red Alert 3 campaign coop?
After I watched your video, I started to think that General Jack Granger was around the same age as General Solomon and probably serve alongside during the 1st Tiberium War.
I got a smidge of vibe I was watching an internet historian video... you sort-off had his tone...and the way your vid is edited, it does give the vibe to it heh
Holy hell, NCHP! I was just catching up on your animations yesterday. I hope your voice acting group gets well soon.
@@DrWhite oh haha thanks forr the concern! they should be fine I assume heh. the next skit is more or less next month.
I thought the same!
I hope you do tiberium next
Same😂
Finally got around to watching this video. Highly entertaining and a solid look at what I think is one of the more underrated entries in the CnC series! Also thanks for the shout out and the name is pronounced Je (rhymes like the word 'eh') and thild (rhymes with 'field').
Hey, glad you enjoyed It!
Also - ah, so that's how you say it! In recording I had to pause and was like 'Jet hilled? Jeth-id?' It really stumped me XD
I just call him Jeff.
XD
Aye
For the longest time I've been pronouncing it je (as in eh) thild (as in child).
I always thought it was pronounced Jet-Hild 😂
You can use Control click to make units shoot the ground. This is very useful for Ghost Stalkers since you can have them shoot the ground past a building and the shot will also hit the building, allowing you to destroy it without having to use their bomb.
Also useful for Disc Throwers, which get a range boost by skipping their discs off the ground.
The disruptor makes more damage to buildings if you attack em diagonally
the only thing that is annoying about this; is that Stealth generators tend to make units who attack the buildings flashing from visable to not; you either shoot around the middle of the building to continue firing without worry though
@@ahuzel This is how those sweaty online players oneshot your structures with disruptor drops
For over 10 years, I've had nightmares because of Ion Storms. My childhood had me occasionally screaming as I wake up, because in my dream it suddenly started an Ion Storm.
The dream most of the time wasn't even related to Tiberian Sun!
You use a tasteful amount of cyborgs.
Cabal approves.
Would love to see you talk about 3 and, my favorite, Kane's Wrath
I never had once seen any full gameplay nor story of tiberium sun. But the fact that you managed to cover the whole game while giving out top notch comedy along the way deserves a high praise
Yes my feeling exactly!
Tiberian Twilight 2: Kane's Bath.
No but seriously, it's good to see this getting a writ long video, it's such a fascinating and important game that has a lot wrong with it.
"Commander, we're sending you to South America for this mission. Your goal is to raid a sizeable GDI forward operating base for its bath soaps. I'm sure you know how valuable such luxury items are these days. Kane demands bubbles, commander, and it would be unwise to keep him waiting."
@@paragonrobbie9270 I live for kane , i die for Kane , Kane will have what he wants , the difference is trivial.
@@WallNutBreaker524 FOR KANE
KANE LIVES!!!
@@paragonrobbie9270 Cluster Bath Bomb ready.
4:46 "look at it, it's blue!" [and therefore cool because of pretty colours and vibe]
pretty much sums up this experience lol
Still cool how they made the Scrin a good while after this game, yet kept their design close to that of the crashed ship.
"Hello. I Am Hue Mann"
You killed me man. I was laughing for almost 20 minutes and couldn't answer a call from work :D
My god, that "fire ze missile!" reference is one you just dont see anymore. I expect nothing less from a video about a quarter century old game that I loved in my childhood!
Mad respect for linking to those two other content creators for their work on lore. I really appreciate you doing that - makes me feel like you just want your viewers to have a good experience.
Checked out no string prod - absolutely fantastic lore videos. Unfortunately a lot of repeating once you've seen 3-4 of them, but insane production quality and very well written and researched. Made my spark for the C&C and Tiberium universe re-kinde!
The coolest thing about General Solomon other than the fact that he is portrayed by James Earl Jones, is perhaps the fact that he was supposedly the player character of the GDI campaign in the previous game, at least according to the "CnC Bible" that Westwood made shortly after the release of Tib Sun. Granted, that document does have some notable discrepancies such as McNeil not being called McNeil and having a whole different name.
RIP Pappa General Solomon (September 9, 2024 (aged 93)
You took me so far down memory lane... Even now in our 30s, my cousin still tells his wife about when we were 9 and he would wake up at my place at 6 am during summer holidays to the sounds of "Unit lost" and "AAARRHHH".
I always remember the game looking beautiful and clean. But seeing it again... Wow. And the haunting soundtrack! Engraved so deep in my brain.
Thank you, friend.
The cyborg commando's voice lines alone made him great.
"They will know fear!"
I love this game. Balance is fucked, but the atmosphere and music make up for it ten times over. I also have no idea why, but in all of my playthroughs I've never experienced as many bugs as you did in this one video. Anyway, I think that RA2 and TibSun are the best games in the entire C&C franchise, but for different reasons.
Played this so much as a kid and tbh, I don’t remember a single bug. At least, none I didn’t induce myself trying to mod the game. Lmao modding this was really something else, spent so many days, so much frustration when a mod I had been working on just bugged out to unplayability and I had to start over again.
I had the decade collection
Tiberian sun worked so i played that
RA2 didnt work so it took me til 2020 to actually play thru RA2 and YR
I like RA2 more cus its more gamey and fun
Tib sun is good but it has better atmosphere and wacky future tech
I love the music
RA 2 rocked, tiberian sun i found lame, bad graphics, and no where as good at red alert 1 and the original CnC
@@user-bj1mx2ip1c k. Who asked?
I've never related to a video more in my life. We're the same age and hold the same worship for this game. Got the NOD crest tatoo'd on my ankle. great content, commander
32:26 I loved the Ace Combat Zero reference :D
"That's what V2 is for!"
If "HERE COMES THE SUN" is any indication...
Belka did nothing wrong! Except everything!
Man I loved that game. Played it for years. I also feel like back then games were more mature. I always loved the option you had to also play the evil faction. The missions, although sometimes badly balanced, we're quite creative and always different. Westwood was a great company.
Oh god the memories this brings back. It reminds me how hard some of the micro-heavy missions were for little old me back then. It was only after revisiting the game at least a dozen years later that I could finally beat the campaigns. It also amused me how you dubbed the lovely genocidal AI a "Ro-bro".
This gave me a couple of good laughs, cheers for that!
C&C Twisted Insurrection is one of the better C&C:TS "mods" (it's completely standalone but uses mostly TS assets) and acts as a C&C 1.5 as if Nod won the first war. Pretty good, but can be tedious earlier on with loads of non-base building missions.
Ah yes TI, save scumming cheese simulator
Personally I really like those mission
I second that. And the soundtrack is amazing too.
Hardly any vanilla assets in it currently, doubles up the lovely atmosphere that TS has. Highly recommend it, especially if you like the challenging/BS missions of TS 🤣
@@A-Forty3707 save system likes to freeze the game, like completely.
or freeze at random times.
I played a lot more RA2 in my life, but this game's grittyness, graphics and atmosphere always appealed to me too. I remember the campaign kicked my ass a lot more.
This game was my jam, the first true RTS I ever played properly and absolutely loved it to pieces.
A lame to fame for me, for a period of about six months I was the 14th highest ranked player on the leaderboard, and considering that I never realised took MP too seriously I was pretty impressed with myself.
You should explore the wealth of Tib Sun mods out there, there are plenty still up for grabs on moddb.
Loved the video man, keep up the great work!
I remember how I, being a child, try to complete it, and now, looking at this, nostalgia comes. Jeez, how many years have passed... Thank you, Dr White, it was like teleport back in time. )
Reposting this comment so I can pin it.
"When Firestorm?" - The firestorm video is pretty much done. I've just gotta do a music pass and add a few extra bits of missing footage here and there. Together with the planned Multiplayer and Mod sections, that video is almost as long as this one, hence why I split it.
...That and Vegas kept crashing whenever I opened the project file, so I had to cut it in two.
"I miss multiplayer/this game!" - you can play tibsun multiplayer right now via cncnet! Heck, you can even download the full game with a modern resolution patch from them too!
"Why not make a TTS-style C&C video?" - The TTS-team has a lot of ongoing projects ATM (Check alfas patreon!) and I don't know what EA's rules on fan products are, but if the stars aligned then I'd jump at the chance to pitch a one-off C&C-based video. I'm thinking something short showing the mundane life's of infantry in the style of the old newgrounds Tankmen cartoons.
The Firestorm video will be a total joy to watch. :D
Isn't there a C&C2 3D animated series here on youtube?
I forgot it's name and can't find it with what I have, but I'm certain it exists.
Edit: found it: th-cam.com/users/DirectandDominatevideos
Ohhh yeah baby
Can't wait D
it annoys me that this game hasnt gotten a remaster yet, the 1080p resolution is too far and you cant zoom in.
I played this game when I was a kid. One thing I remember vividly is that Nod Artillary unpatched actually created real craters in the ground. They would alter the landscape. This sounds really cool and it was except that if say you clipped the side of a building the crater would go under the building. The game would then realize the building was improperly placed as there was not enough ground underneath it and the building would be destroyed. To add to that say you managed to fight off the artillary but they had still damaged your base. You would not be able to build anything on the crater because the building wouldn't fit in the space. So large swathes of land could be rendered unusable and you'd either have to give up or move base somewhere else.
This is video is outstandingly produced, never felt bored relinking my old pre-teen nostalgia with this time sinker.
I used to love this game, hadn’t thought about it in 20 years, popped into my head so searched on TH-cam and this is first video I found 😂 great stuff. A seriously dystopian game I feel, gives me the creeps a bit. Dune 2000 was my OG
I just wanted to let you know that the absurd amount of effort that you put into one-off split second jokes and editing like at 10:47 and 21:21 that most people will probably miss is appreciated by nerds like me who like pausing videos to read everything.
Absolutely love your style, dude. You're like the Internet Historian, but for games and that's exactly what i wanted!
Damn, I loved this game so much as a kid, I remember you could edit a txt file and get any unit in the game to Nod or GDI, or even make custom units. Sadly it always broke the AI to just build the GDI towers with no top on, :( but building mutant bases was my passion
That’s why I used SunEdit2k back in the day, it let you mod easier and only broke the game most of the time as opposed to almost always lol. Damn dude modding this game on your own was so frustrating yet rewarding, and the rush from just building mutant units and stuff that you normally couldn’t lol.
Used to? i still do all that. I love making the useless Limpet Drones useful, and giving artillery rapid fire emp effect bombs.
28:15 'But I am le tired!'
Gotta love that era
22:10 actually, this side mission can by made easier in ridiculous way: simply move all your forces east and build a base on giand Tib island after destroying a bridge behind you. Later just fix northern bridge to get relatively easy way to the target.
Loved the first 3 tiberium games! Easily one of the best!! The music is badass too
You will be remembered, Papa General Soloman
This dude is the gamer version of the internet historian
This video was made perfectly, very interesting to watch.
I finished campaign over and over on a hard difficulty.
I hate the time limit missions badly! because I enjoy to take my time and develop my base and make it beautiful with gates and walls and some pavements lol.
at the "New beginning" mission , my timer was never reset to 1 hour after I deployed 1 ICBM as you said this timer isn't correct and you have 3 hours actually.
Edit: The timer does resets after 1st ICBM deployed when timer ends
Tiberian Sun is just - MWAH - peak atmosphere/aesthetics for me. It's like the final form of the coolest 80s movie ever, a hybrid of Aliens and the future of Terminator, merged with a bit of Dune for spice (lol).
And that soundtrack. *gush* I'd fork over gallons of cash for a Tiberian Sun movie/series if I knew it would manage to capture that 80s scifi action vibe properly.
Also, you, No Strings and Jethild are like the Holy Trinity of CNC content on the platform, and I'm so happy you're all tackling it with your own styles, approaches and specialties. I just wish you had future games to keep the fire burning even longer.
30:51 That transition was fantastic.
Agreed
How have I never seen this Dr. White guy? This is fantastic! Honestly, I'm surprised you don't have 10x the subs, your editing, comedic voice work, audio and microphone quality and really just general quality of content is great!
I know I'm just a one random on the internet but you've got a sub from me and I'll be sending your stuff to all three of my friends. 👍
"If I am cut, do I not bleed?"
Literally the best filmed scene in cinema, television and gaming.
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"Healing in Tiberium" should be a song title.
Tiberian Sun is probably my favourite game in the series as well. The missions are interesting and the story feels more interesting than the Red Alert games. You also have really cool looking units and buildings. I loved building a base with asphalt on the ground and then laser fences and firestorm defences etc. it’s also very easy to mod the game. I remember modifying the XML file and added the pyramid into the game and a bunch of other stuff. There are other games in the series that are better in some aspects but Tib Sun has a feel that makes it feel epic in a way the others don’t really manage. Also it was the last game in the series to be released in a big box. I remember walking into the store and buying it. Reading the manual with all the units like I did with RA1. With RA2 coming in a boring old DVD case it lost something. Not to mention the gates. I love the gates. I always love building a base in these games and turtleing and being able to build a gate that automatically lowers for your troops just adds to the feeling. And there are several type of defensive walls that you can build defence in depth and make your enemy have to get through a killing zone to get into your base.
"Define favourable outcome, Cabal."
"They all die."
I was waiting for this.
"That'll do, no man or structure left standing."
Dr White will be pleased to know that, during the third game, Tiberium Wars, GDI still mainlines grenadiers like it's World War 1.
I’ve seen things of summery several times now, and you still managed to make it seem fresh. Well done!
I don’t love tick tanks but as an analog to Titans I thought the idea was that they were faster and once deployed were tougher, but more fragile while mobile.
I see you’re a man of culture too
Amazing video as always! Can't wait for a Firestorm expansion. Cabal's voice alone is dope af
its glorious, I cant wait for the remaster with working multiplayer Edit: since TTS is on hold and Alphabusa is looking for other lore to explore you think you could persuade him into trying out some C&C projects? ;)
edit 2: for mods try twisted insurrection, also firestorm when?
edit 3: thanks Doc, you da man
We probably gonna see the remaster for this game after 15 years, EA are very slow when it comes to C&C
I still remember looking over my uncles shoulder as he launched chemicals missles as a four year old.
Heart-ing your comment so everyone can see this reply.
1 - you can play multiplayer now via cncnet. Heck, you can even download the full game with a modern resolution patch from them too!
2 - The TTS-team has a lot of ongoing projects ATM (Check alfas patreon!) and I don't know what EA's rules on fan products are, but if the stars aligned then I'd jump at the chance to pitch a one-off C&C-based video. I'm thinking short video showing the mundane life's of infantry in the style of the Tank-men cartoons.
3 - The firestorm video is pretty much done. I've just gotta do a music pass and add a few extra bits of missing footage here and there. Together with the planned Multiplayer and Mod sections, that video is almost as long as this one, hence why I split it.
...That and Vegas kept crashing whenever I opened the project file, so I had to cut it in two.
@@DrWhite EA's rule for fan projects is as long as no money is being made on it, they're ok with it. That's why there is quite a few C&C projects out there.
@@DrWhite Any Battletech stuff in the works? Or at least anyone on the team actually interested enough in that universe to attempt a project? W/the current 40K Exodus and the Battletech Renaissance there would be an audience, especially for new people like how TTS was. Maybe not in the style of TTS but something like it. Short narratives focusing on merc companies or Great House units. Catalyst Game Labs is rly supportive of fan projects rn or at least to the point of neutrality that they dont care if you do it.
"Hell, its about time" - me being happy for a new video to watch.
Others have already suggest it but yeah.
Twisted Insurection is a pretty good stand alone mod, that looks, sounds and plays just like Tib Sun in a "What if Nod won?" that felt to me as a belivable shift in powers in, with it's only problem being very uneven difficulty, thou quite a few years passed (5 i think?) so they might have fix that, but remember to save often.
I believe why Tiberian Suns atmosphere looks so pulling is maybe because it's environmental design tries to capture the train model landscape look. Because your mind actually sees it like something that is just protraying real life and this keeps it from slipping into the uncanny valley where everything that's not spot-on can break the immersion. I don't know if the environmental Artists for Tiberian sun had this in mind, but to me it absolutely gives me this feeling and it adds to the internal immersion of the game.
I mean of course, when you have a generated map that is flat desert, there is none of that to be seen. But if you look at the hand crafted environments in some maps, especially the snow maps with their small cottages, that have a literal train running past them, maybe you can see what i am trying to say.
You sir hits my nostalgia so hard that i can't feel my legs anymore.
One of the things that always sticks out to me about this game is all the weird little map triggers and easter eggs. The "X-Mas Tree Farm" that displays the word "Scrooooooge!" if you blow it up on the final Nod mission. The blue colored civilians running laps in the mission where you have to test the Chemical Missiles. The lone civilian trapped on an iceberg in a lake on the mission where you blow up the Mammoth Mk2. The train that runs away and crashes into a GDI turret if you destroy the car blocking its path.
Anyway, good video, I hope you do a video on Firestorm. Even though that expansion was a bit disappointing, it has some of the weirder C&C missions, that could make for a fun video.
I'm not even 3 minutes into this video, and I not only love your style, but your humor, and your delivery. Instant sub.
I felt the point on the Forgotten. A part of me wish we didn't get Scrin if it means having gotten them as a third faction for C&C3.
ive seen a lot of retrospective /game deep dives and such, and 5 mins in, the quality of entertainment and humor in yours powerfully impressed me. i cant wait to see your other videos! this was fresh! if you keep at it, you will inevitably have millions of viewers
Yeah this is definitely my favorite C&C game too, people often focus more on RA2 but for me Tib Sun was always the best due to the great art direction and atmosphere it had, the B-movie story was also just really fun to watch, especially since it had Michal Biehn even in it.
I just hope when the eventual remaster happens, they'll do a better job with the MP networking, C&C + RA1 Remaster pack was great (though i wish it came with a bit more QoL stuff) but the MP is messy, you often gotta battle its netcode if you wanna play with some friends.
All the maps look the exact same
Stumbled upon this video by chance and I'm happy I did! The narration, music choice, editing and overall presentation are great! Not to mention the scratching of nostalgia itch.
Holy crap, an Outpost 2 reference in 2021? I'm not the only one that remembers that game existed?! Take my like for the awesome video.
It was too advanced for its time.
The only game to refrence more obsecure than Outpost 2 would be the original Outpost, I don't think I've ever met anyone else who played that game.
I really enjoyed Outpost 1, too bad that it was never finished before release or fully patched later.
There is another obscure game called Millennium 2.2 (Return to Earth) that let's you put bases on planets and moon. You have send probes and ships out to collect resources and defend bases from attacks.
1: played this game for +/- 20 years aswell.. And ..
1. I have NEVER seen the Jumpjet-cheese. My world just opened. It went from black and white, into Tiberium collour.
2: Nods backbone is ARTILLERY. You can ''walk'' 2 squads of 4 across almost any map with some AA troops and eliminate just about EVERYTHING.
3. The train mission after Vega went eye-candy-happy is a crime.
4. Taking over a GDI base to kill all the mutants is top-NOD and its the mission I relish the most. Screw the whole '' Kill the mutants '' theme, they nicked one of our obelisks of light and that ''ticks'' us off.
5. Cyborg commando = best boi.
6. The Mammoth Mk. II is overated as F-
7. You, sir. Are CABAL in human form. That many cyborgs should be illigal.
8. The Geneva convention and protocols do not exist.
9. Peace trough power.
very nice! I always loved how well the soundtrack complimented this games aesthetic.
"They even built this fucking Outpost 2 looking space station. Fuck me that's a joke no one's going to get"
That's where you're wrong bucko. The Blight is approaching
Morale is: Terrible.
The nod sidemission for the Sarajevo is actually neat, you can get mammoth tanks to pretty much cheese the mission and it removes GDI attacks in the next mission which are massive waves of titans. Also shame that you didn't note that a few mission had alternate objectives in case of failure of primary like if you missed the train in the mission after hammerfest you would get a base and instead have to do a larger longer mission or in the jailbreak mission if u took too long or didn't capture the radar at the initial base Oxanna would be moved to the large base.
Yeah, as a child I even thought that the game wants the Commander to fail at first in order to do the actual mission and that the shortcut wasn't even possible.
@@lars9925 Yeah tib sun was and still is ahead of how they did something. Not a lot of games let you fail or succeed on your own while having a backup option, much less letting you play that on the same mission. C&C was innovative like that and it goes back to tiberium dawn's first commando mission where you had to destroy a structure in the NOD base but didn't have the full orders as to which and if you got anything but the airfield you had to do an extra mission on that map to take out the full base
"You'll find there is surprisingly little I must do General Vega..."
That _"BUMPER CARS!"_ got a good laugh out of me
i love bumper cars! so crunchy!
0:48 Francis in the Harvester going "Whoo- Bumper cars!" got me off guard. Kudos to you. XD
6:27 Oh I remember this mission! I believe there is a small secrect passage that you can open up by destroying a dirt ramp. I was so thrilled when finding that out when playing it as a child.
27:23 or was it this mission?…
Anyway, the atmosphere of these stealth missions was great.
21:22, LOL! WOOD ARMOR!
in the German version those hover MRLSes are literally just called "floating tanks" :)
5:46 If I recall, they were going to be a third faction in the expansion. But since that was dropped everything about them after TS was dropped.
I get the outpost 2 reference, the first RTS I ever played
Remember how terrifying those volcanoes were?
I played it when I was like 7 but I had no idea how to. I was horrible at it.
Holy shit, this is still hilarious 2 years later
Anyone else here after buying the ultimate collection off steam for $10?
Ja.
this video has been recommended to me by youtube for awhile. Finally thought to give it a try and i loved every second of it! Love CNC games and West Wood. Now i have a new channel to watch for my old ass CNC content :)
Huh I always liked Hammerfest. Dont know why but i loved that mission.
But I'm glad the allmighty algorithm blessed me with this video. That's some good shit.
This map is like minihistory, miniplot, piece of art definitely
The simple fact you mentioned both No String and Jethild means you’ve earned yourself a subscriber
Honestly i will never understand Sci-Fi's love for walkers, like if you wanna take them out just hit them in the joints. Only role that i can think off where a walker would be good is as Scouting in wood lands since they can pretty mutch become improvised observation towers.
Funnily enough those reasons are exactly why gdi phases out walkers in TW3. It actually comes to haunt then as the walker design is better suited to red zone enviroments and battlefields - something not flaunts with their own walker
cuz they're awesome
@@OverwatchSniper Yes but so is Tanks,APCS and IFV's and they make more sense as they dont have the same issues as a walker and is mutch cheaper to produce and can be alot more versitile in their roles.
you are so right about everything you need to check out Twisted Insurrection. It will give you more LORE
You're like Internet Historian's, Setth's and Mandalore's secret lovechild. Good stuff with the game "reviews". I hope you do Alpha Centauri next. And ty TH-cam algorithm.
glorious game of my youth
play with a 15" CRT monitor for maximum nostalgia :)
Outpost 2 is severely underrated, I still dig out my old disc every once in a while. I love the art in the Big Fucking Box™ it came in as well, so good.
Outpost 1 is even more underrated.
It does seem like an obscure game, same with Outpost 1. Cool to see other people who played them.
@@LeoInterVir Outpost 1 was an amazing game, outside of being blatantly unfinished and filled with game breaking bugs.
@@Izithel yup but still enjoyed it many times as a kid.
@@LeoInterVir Oh, me too, greatly enjoyed and even managed to complete the game once.
Tough it took me years to realize that it wasn't just me doing it wrong, or missing some important information due to my lack of English knowledge... but that it was some buildings literally doing nothing.
_"The two of them cover the world FAR better than I ever could."_
You say that, but I don't know you and 2.5 mins in you already got me hooked and confident I'll be enjoying this.
Your production style is ON POINT, sir.
Also; I enjoyed that Outpost 2 joke, that game was legit when windows actually cared to run it.
Good god. Remember the years when Windows XP wouldn't run most DOS or Win 95 games and new hardware just barely ran a nearly stable DOSBox, let alone VMware? I went SO LONG without classic EVA's sweet voice.
Yess He's doing TS \o/ been waiting for another CnC after Renegade
Oh this is a fucking hilarious summary of the story overall, I lost my shit with that transition to the Nod Campaign. Though I must say I am surprise that you like the Nod Campaign more then the GDI campaign given how you seem to consider a few of the Nod missions as the worst in the game.
Have to ask, given how Tiberian Sun is your favorite but what do you think of Tib Wars and Kane's Wrath?
Nods campaign has more fun missions than gdi, who have a lot of save scummy mutant commando and 'build army rush base' levels.
TW and KW are pretty damn good, even if they're a lot less forgiving and mess with the plot a lot. Biggest mistake was making tib corrupted areas just weird crystal lands and not the alien landscapes of tibSun
@@DrWhite if there was ever a proper C&C 4, want to see the Forgotten to return as their own faction along with the weird Alien landscape. Could have it mix with the current crystal landscape to combine the two styles overall like “Tiberium Oasis” within the Red Zones. I mean they’re like the only other friendly group in the lore who can work with GDI while also have very interesting lore themselves so why not have them come back? Could even be super effective against the Scrin.
YT recommendations send me to this video. I have watched both No Strings Prd and Jethild before. Good video, I enjoyed it and liked your humor +1
Twisted Insurrection is a great mod, though it has some glitches and is vastly harder than TS.
WarZone is another popular mod, but it instead focuses on graphics, balancing, and adding new units rather than changing everything like TI.
Both are stand-alone.
This is my stress relief video man
Anyone from 2024: 🤚😔
Pyotor has a bad ass voice
Me.
We're all waiting for the TibWar video
Sup
Always.
Hey White, I just want to say thanks for doing this. I have never had a chance to play Tib sun or renegade, so I am glad your doing these video's to fill in what I don't know of C&C in an entertaining manner thank you.
Thanks for the Recommendations for showing me this video, it's great and you've gained a new subscriber
Command and conquer was such a huge part of my childhood- crazy to see the community still clawing
thank you for throwing me down this rabbit hole I havent thought of since i was a little guy. now i must play this again
I watched this masterpiece of a video about 10 times now and I swear it NEVER gets old! extremely well done!!