I got to tell you when I first saw you I thought now who is this guy. You hit the loading scene right on the nail of the head , without super expensive equipment etc. you make some beautiful loads that pattern well. Thankyou for your great videos.
That’s the only shotshell I knew of growing up. A sheltered life and if wanted shells for chasing bunnies and birds, I had to head back to Grandpa’s mec and make ‘em. Sure wish I had all those buckets of hulls back! ps: Still using that mec.🤔 1972…Sheit I got old! Thank God the Red dot smells the same! ❤😂
Great video man.. thanks for all the info. And I know what happens with unslit wads. They make great home defense loads lol.. hey if anyone gets any turkey's with ya'lls loads post em up.
I really appreciate the 12 gauge 2-3/4" Turkey load data. It's nearly impossible to find factory ammo for Turkey in 2-3/4". There are a ton of 12 gauge shotguns chambered for 2-3/4" that I hate to see made obsolete based on a lack of available ammo. Thanks so much!
@@theshotgunscientists I tried 25 grains and it deformed the rim around the head stamp then I tried 23 grains. Still getting the same pressure signs. Shooting out of a Maverick 88 with a 27" barrel. How much more can I back the powder off?
I got the 12ga Lee Crimp Finisher, but I don't own a Lee press in 12ga, only 20ga. It won't fit on my MEC 12ga either. I used my drill press with a 12ga roll crimp tool mounted in it to press the tool onto my crimps, and it worked great. A side benefit you may have noticed is that the tool will close up holes in fold crimps considerably.
I've been loading just under 1.5oz of lead with waa12r and those hulls. I use 25gr of longshot though. I tried 28gr and it kicked like a son of a gun, probably going over 1300 fps.
I think I’ve seen data calling for up to 31 grains for these kind of hulls and a 1.5 ounce load. The 26 grain charge from my single shot kicked pretty hard when we shot it in the turkey load video a few weeks ago.
@@theshotgunscientists 31grs would definitely rock your world. I've done 35gr for 1 1/8th, and it was stiff, but it sent that payload screaming downrange. Hodgdon manual said it was doing some 1550 fps. Kicked like a factory slug, ish
@@DadandSonsOutdoorsAdventures Yeah, I use 31gr of LS in STS hulls with REM RP12 wads and 1&3/8ths payload, 1400-1410FPS from 30" barrel. I use 31.5gr in the Federal top gun hulls, same payload but with MG42 wads, same velocity.
Great video as usual. Im planning to turkey hunt this spring. Still not sure what ammo I'm taking. Have some 2 3/4" Federal Premium 1 5/8 ounce buffered #6 copper plated that I bought over 20 years ago that's high on the list of possibles. Federal doesn't even catalog that load anymore. In fact I think 2 3/4" 1 5/8 ounce has about disappeared from the market.
@@theshotgunscientists I think 1 5/8 was essentially a 2 7/8" 10 ga payload back years ago. I also have some old Winchester XX Magnum 1 5/8 ounces 2 3/4" loads. I read that payload for a while was really doing a job on turkeys in the old short chambered fixed choke guns back in the 80s and 90s.
Have you loaded the new-style HS hulls from Winchester? According to Winchester HS and CF data should interchange. I know the wad will probably change. Thank you in advance.
The load with the SSW wad, with the green and white hulls, is that a 1 7/8oz load or a 1 1/2oz load? Just want to make sure. I think the load you loaded in the video was loaded to 1 1/2oz. but the info on the SSW load said 1 7/8oz. Thanks
Do you suppose a guy could use the Remington 1 piece hulls instead? I've heard say they load the same as the AA. Have you ever compared identical loads between the two?
Just what I am looking for, thanks. I will be using a Primos Titewad .66 restriction. Would you suggest the 1.7/8oz load? Also do you have the same load for today's hulls? I have a ton of Federal heavy field loads. thanks again
For the AA 1.5 oz load. Will these wads work from Ballistics Products? TPS 12ga 3 (Unwhite Lightning) wad UNslit (100/bag) Item: 3227702US I know they will need quite a bit taken off if they will work. Can't find the TPS 2 3/4" unslit only the slit ones. Or is there a way to make the slit ones work? thanks
I got to tell you when I first saw you I thought now who is this guy. You hit the loading scene right on the nail of the head , without super expensive equipment etc. you make some beautiful loads that pattern well. Thankyou for your great videos.
Thanks man.
That’s the only shotshell I knew of growing up. A sheltered life and if wanted shells for chasing bunnies and birds, I had to head back to Grandpa’s mec and make ‘em. Sure wish I had all those buckets of hulls back!
ps: Still using that mec.🤔 1972…Sheit I got old! Thank God the Red dot smells the same! ❤😂
Made some of of these rounds up with 23 grains of Longshot for turkey hunting. At 30yards over 40 pellets in head and neck
Great video man.. thanks for all the info. And I know what happens with unslit wads. They make great home defense loads lol.. hey if anyone gets any turkey's with ya'lls loads post em up.
I really appreciate the 12 gauge 2-3/4" Turkey load data. It's nearly impossible to find factory ammo for Turkey in 2-3/4". There are a ton of 12 gauge shotguns chambered for 2-3/4" that I hate to see made obsolete based on a lack of available ammo. Thanks so much!
I’d back this down to like 23 grains honestly
@@theshotgunscientists I tried 25 grains and it deformed the rim around the head stamp then I tried 23 grains. Still getting the same pressure signs. Shooting out of a Maverick 88 with a 27" barrel. How much more can I back the powder off?
I got the 12ga Lee Crimp Finisher, but I don't own a Lee press in 12ga, only 20ga. It won't fit on my MEC 12ga either. I used my drill press with a 12ga roll crimp tool mounted in it to press the tool onto my crimps, and it worked great. A side benefit you may have noticed is that the tool will close up holes in fold crimps considerably.
Sure does
Thank you for the great information.
Thanks man
I've been loading just under 1.5oz of lead with waa12r and those hulls. I use 25gr of longshot though. I tried 28gr and it kicked like a son of a gun, probably going over 1300 fps.
I think I’ve seen data calling for up to 31 grains for these kind of hulls and a 1.5 ounce load. The 26 grain charge from my single shot kicked pretty hard when we shot it in the turkey load video a few weeks ago.
@@theshotgunscientists 31grs would definitely rock your world. I've done 35gr for 1 1/8th, and it was stiff, but it sent that payload screaming downrange. Hodgdon manual said it was doing some 1550 fps. Kicked like a factory slug, ish
I load 31.5 grains of Longshot underneath an ounce and a half of bismuth #5 in a 2 3/4" shell for ducks. 1385 fps on chronograph
@@DadandSonsOutdoorsAdventures Yeah, I use 31gr of LS in STS hulls with REM RP12 wads and 1&3/8ths payload, 1400-1410FPS from 30" barrel.
I use 31.5gr in the Federal top gun hulls, same payload but with MG42 wads, same velocity.
What shot size where you using.
Great video as usual. Im planning to turkey hunt this spring. Still not sure what ammo I'm taking. Have some 2 3/4" Federal Premium 1 5/8 ounce buffered #6 copper plated that I bought over 20 years ago that's high on the list of possibles. Federal doesn't even catalog that load anymore. In fact I think 2 3/4" 1 5/8 ounce has about disappeared from the market.
I’ve never seen one in person that heavy
@@theshotgunscientists I think 1 5/8 was essentially a 2 7/8" 10 ga payload back years ago. I also have some old Winchester XX Magnum 1 5/8 ounces 2 3/4" loads. I read that payload for a while was really doing a job on turkeys in the old short chambered fixed choke guns back in the 80s and 90s.
Have you loaded the new-style HS hulls from Winchester? According to Winchester HS and CF data should interchange. I know the wad will probably change. Thank you in advance.
Data is interchangeable yes, I have loaded a lot of them. Josh loads them all the time.
I use my 10g for Turkey although out here you could use almost anything , they get close and are kinda dumb, sure are tasty though
I would love to try out one of my 10ga 3 ounce loads on turkey. It’s basically an 8 gauge magnum load.
@@theshotgunscientists I really want to try to copy some of those from you. Ya I'm sure they would work awesome
This is all that shows up on Ebay for that taper crimp: (Lee Load All Cone finish die 12 guage, 20 gauge made in Ukraine)
1-2 months for delivery!
That’s the one
The load with the SSW wad, with the green and white hulls, is that a 1 7/8oz load or a 1 1/2oz load? Just want to make sure. I think the load you loaded in the video was loaded to 1 1/2oz. but the info on the SSW load said 1 7/8oz. Thanks
The clear hulls had 1.75 ounces of shot, the green ones were 1.88 ounces. 1 3/4 and 1 7/8.
@@theshotgunscientists Great thanks
Have you ever thought about trying out a 1 1/8 oz lead load with longshot powder?
We have done that thousands of times
@@theshotgunscientists do you have a video for 12 ga with 1 1/8 oz with that powder?
@@theshotgunscientists what grain of charge and wads do you guys use?
Do you suppose a guy could use the Remington 1 piece hulls instead? I've heard say they load the same as the AA. Have you ever compared identical loads between the two?
Yes you can
do you think i could use a ranger elite or mg-42 wad for the same loading data,keep up the great video coming there amazing
No idea man I’ve never tried but maybe.
Just what I am looking for, thanks. I will be using a Primos Titewad .66 restriction. Would you suggest the 1.7/8oz load? Also do you have the same load for today's hulls? I have a ton of Federal heavy field loads. thanks again
Watch the most recent 12 gauge turkey load video I posted like a week ago. Same data can be used in a federal hull.
@@theshotgunscientists Thanks and thanks for getting back so fast.
For the AA 1.5 oz load. Will these wads work from Ballistics Products? TPS 12ga 3 (Unwhite Lightning) wad UNslit (100/bag)
Item: 3227702US I know they will need quite a bit taken off if they will work.
Can't find the TPS 2 3/4" unslit only the slit ones. Or is there a way to make the slit ones work? thanks
I’d just use the unslit
Where do you get your load data from?
Numerous sources. This is something we cooked up.
Can you make me up some 20 gauge 3 inch turkey loads lol love the videos
Sure can
@@theshotgunscientists what you charge make box or too
@@tiptonoutdoors2618 Oh I just thought you meant a video, I can’t sell handloads sorry man. All I can do is show you how we make ours.
@@theshotgunscientists that will work too buddy thank you
I bought one it push the star crimp out any idea what I'm doing wrong ?
you have any recommendationson where to start for a TSS 1 1/2oz, 1 5/8oz, or 2oz in a 2 3/4 12ga
I have a video on this actually
OK, will look for it. Does it use longshot as well? i have plenty of longshot and lilgun on hand.
I used blue dot but longshot will work too I’d start at 26
Ok, thank you
what scale do you use??
No idea. My uncle gave it to me when I needed a scale when I started loading. It’s not branded or anything.