Karndean Van Gogh Flooring - Capel #23
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2020
- Robin has Berwicks of Horsham team in to lay his Karndean Van Gogh Luxury Vinyl Flooring (LVT).
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My mum has got built in wardrobes from the late 70's that look similar to those units, I'll show her this video and tell her they're all the rage now, hopefully she'll stop going on about replacing them.
Everything goes around and comes around
Too true!!
😂😂 they did look a bit dated
When it comes to building, Robin Clevett is in a league of his own.
Theirs lots of quality tradesmen out there we just charge alot more than the average person is willing to pay
He is fantastic....absolute top top tradesman but I've worked with guys as good there are great tradesman about they are just few and far between. Problem with the building trade there is rarely a middle ground guys are either really good at what they do or really bad.
Great update on the Capel build ! Getting there ! I do hope you have a rest at the end, although I fear your like me and get itchy feet when trying to relax. Loving the videos, stay safe !
Hi Robin, great video. I have been looking at different flooring options as planning to have underfloor heating in the kitchen extension, so this has been a useful insight to an alternative option! Thanks again
Looking great!
superb results Robin! gorgeous
I know your current look in this video Robin, long hours, stress, details, lack of sleep. Get some rest my friend,
Perfection doesnt exist but you can get damn near to it , what a beautiful house , the finish of course is only relative to the preparation , and I know preparation is thinking ahead , thinking laterally, and not missing anything , people like you Robin dont exist in todays maximum profit for minimum outlay world , and I would say that you deserve what I could only describe as an " Englishman's Castle " . Well done , youll get there , and dont you change your attitude , more power to your elbow my friend !
Really nice Robin. Surprised you opted for Karndean but after you said about the problems, it makes sense. Top work as always 👍🏻
Looking very very nice rob. 👍👍
Nice to see local videos. Sussex people over here 👍🏾👋🏾
Hi Robin, Great Video I use LVT on a lot of my building projects and karndean is a very good product but I use a product called ambiance flooring I highly recommend you check them out there based in the midlands and also have a vast range of flooring designs. Best of luck for the rest of the build loving the content. 👍🏻
Get that lad a pair of knee pads
My thoughts exactly! A floor layer with no pads? >.
@@Sash_Window they are in the knee pockets in trousers
whoops didn't see the other fella my bad wish i could work on my knees like that still!!!!
It all comes together when the flooring goes down I bet robins well excited.
Hi Robin another great video I love your meticulous nature and that your a detail guy cuz thats what sets the few apart from the many. If sharps quoted those wardrobes no lie they would easily be 5k if I made those wardrobes I'd want a minimum of 4k. Fully bespoke and that high quality you'd get 4k all day long 👊
Laid Karndean in my previous place - very nice to work with 👍
Amazing 👍🏿👍🏿
Good job 👏 👍
Epic party house Robin 👍🏻
Really like the skill builder videos. Would have been nice for a video for the painting of this build though.
Nice bit of lino that
He didn't want to stop laying the floor, did he?
Must have priced the job tight Lol
Just getting lashed on
Doesn’t get paid to stop and talk, only paid to Chuck the flooring in
Maybe he considered that the viewers would like to see how easy it is to lay. If you're good at a job and you're getting filmed you'd probably want to keep doing it. =)
Jesus that must of cost a fortune to do that , looks good though , loving this series
I wouldn't want to lay a floor with Robin watching ,He would be on the lookout for all the karate cuts lol ,
Don’t worry a nice thick of bead of silicone will cover them
Yes but you'd definitely employ him
And if you would employ him, and therefore want that quality in your home, you should always try deliver the same quality for customers homes.
people who can't use knives say "always cut away from you"
but if you know what you are doing. cutting towards you is the best way for trimming flooring.
takes skill and experience though.
Hi Robin, really enjoying this series! I don't think I've missed it but wondered if you have done a video about the windows you've installed?
Looks the Bollocks Robin 👍
Nice
Kardine and amtico are the same to fit hes a propper fitter though just wants to get job done and get home for a stella my man 😂😂
Robin will you at some point be posting the second part to your decking that you started?
Can ya do a cutright tutorial? I had a look , It might take a few fails to get the holes right
I have the exact same flooring threw out my house, best thing I ever done
Why would you throw away your house just cuz you like your floor
Don't know if he will get that one.
christian Coulson he prefers to be outstanding in his field
Ok ok ha ha (throughout) didn’t know youtube now had Grammar Police
Great videos Robin. How comes you put the skirting down before the flooring? Would you get better results putting it down after the flooring gets laid? Cheers
If the timber floor is fitted properly you would have no problems at all with it 🤔
I would guess your sharps estimate would be conservative for that run of units. I also have karndean in my office and it takes a beating and looks realistic too.
Happy birthday bud
I see you didn’t lay the flooring before the timber work, makes the decorating easier I suppose. What expansion gap did they leave/recommend?
No expansion gap in this flooring. It compresses.
Robin what are pro’s and con’s with having a remote floor probe instead of using the actual stat? Perfect timing with the video for us as we need to decide on UFH design, Cheers Richard
The room stat measures air temperature and it will close the circuit down but it could be set at 30 degs cent for the air and the floor could be running at 40 or even 50 deg cent. The floor probe is a limit stat. The low temperature is also needed on timber floors. The only one you can turn up high is ceramic tiles.
Richard Corns You have both, the remote probe is making sure the temp in the floor does not go too high, usually 27. The thermostat is in the controller to monitor room temp, what ever you have set to.
Whats the control setup for the UFH and Heat source?
Hi could you recommend a linoleum brand to use?
I was interested to hear in the video that Karndean have done something about sensitivity to sunlight. I have Karndean throughout my house, and it has seriously discoloured due to bleaching by sunlight in just a couple of years. I don't know how to upload an image of it, but I can tell you that my flooring is now bright green instead of the warm oak wood tone that it should be. Karndean have offered to replace my flooring as a "goodwill gesture" but I will now have days of disruption to remove the existing flooring and have it replaced with the new planks - and I am having to pay for this work to be done myself because Karndean couldn't trace the original purchase of the flooring (which was fitted before I bought the house) so they didn't cover it under their guarantee. I would urge caution for anyone wishing to fit Karndean flooring anywhere that receives a lot of direct sunlight. Prepare for it to become bright green!
The karndean looks great. What's the name of the finish? I can't seem to find rustic wood online
Karndean is max 27 degrees with UFH. What temp will you run the flow temp for the UFH at the manifold?
Thanks
Also would like to know👍
Recently done my kitchen diner extension in lvt around 60m and initially I couldnt speak Highly enough about it but found with a busy family it marks far too easily for my liking and it's only 5 month old
Also rubbish with heat expansion
I guess it wasn't Karndean then? I had it installed in my kitchen diner 13 years ago. The room gets used a lot and always has kids traipsing in and out with filthy shoes. Even now there's only a few marks in it and you don't see them unless looking for them. I'm looking at replacing all my wood floors with Karndean.
@@supernoodle48 did the floor decolourise like many are saying we are planning to get ours done ...going for glue down
@@vaniv2886 There is a small area just on the inside of a fully glazed door. That does get the sun most of the day and I guess the rays have really blasted that spot. The rest of the floor has no noticeable discolouration.
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Is this being layer straight on to your screed or self leveling? There's no underlay, just high temp adhesive to solid surface? Thank you
yes it is stuck to the self leveller
Sharpes quoted me over 10k for a wardrobe half that size!
I think robin got his cost and profit mixed up there 😃
great video. which van Gogh is it?
The Karndean click is amazing though you don't need a level floor and it will last forever
We have just laid some, it is great but you do need a level floor unless it is the Palio Core which incorporates a cushion.
Do you intend to run a mastic bead around the perimeter, floor to skirting, or are you happy that the scribe to the skirtings as a finished job?
The scribe is very tight. If you watch them bevel the back it makes it pliable and that squeezes it. Have a look at our other Karndean videos.
Yeah I thought it could probably do without and running a seal round just creates a maintenance problem in my opinion. Thanks for the reply Roger and Robin's place looks great. I've really enjoyed the videos. Take care.
The price of the material is a testament to marketing
Looks good that loose lay flooring isn’t cheap though
You are right but this is glue down as opposed to loose lay. I think the loose lay is much thicker
Great looking floor.
Question.
Do you glue these Lino strips down?
If not why not?
If not, wouldn’t water get under them when mopping?
Hi John
These ones are stuck down and that is common but you can also buy loose lay which is a better product because you can move the tiles (strips) around to even out wear. As for mopping the tiny bit of water from a wrung out mop will evaporate through the joins.
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Thanks for the info.
One more question if I may.
Are those in vid self adhesive or do you have to use glue?
I paid £3000 for a set of 3 wardrobes about 8 years ago from Hammond. Top quality but it ain't cheap.
Robin, please tell me what the Floor is like after the floor has been down for a while with the underfloor heating. Check it around where you have your kitchen units sat on it. I’ve had trouble with joints opening and contracting in these positions, this is with another brand of floor.
Sounds like the wrong adhesive may have been used
Either wrong adhesive or not enough of it, often see lazy fitters who dont notch their trowels properly
you say its bonded down , with what? is adhesive already on material l? or is it applied to floor?
It's glued using high temperature or pressure sensitive adhesive using an a2 trowel. The guy laying the floor is dry fitting without glue and will go back and glue a few rows at a time as the lvt has to be layed into wet ht adhesive. If you glued up the whole room the glue would have dried up by the time you layed a few rows
Never been a fan of LVT, im just a sucker for real wood flooring. I get what you say about the span being an issue, would gluing the floor down not solve these issues?
can't advise that unless you want it to split! wood needs to expand and contract, expansion joints are built into the flooring to an extent. I have used water down pva to stick back down old bits of parquet floor that's lifted in the past but with the glue centred in the middle of the piece but I'd only do that on localised areas. I'll be rebuilding my extension in the future and I think I might move away from wood to something like this
3 days !
is that the palio loose lay stuff?
no
(Got Karndean at home - better half insisted no wood) Was surprised as a wood expert for you to be promoting it. One really important point - the subfloor needs to be perfect, it will show up any irregularities being flexible. Noted fitters bevelling the edge but assume that just on the ends butting the wall? So is it true it can only be put down by approved fitters? ( nothing wrong with that ). It is also expensive? but would you say good long term value ?
The bevelled edge just gives it a bit of flexibility on the edge where it compresses against the skirting. We have plenty of videos on fitting it and the Palio collection is suitable for general builders, kitchen fitters etc.
Hi robin Please tell me the dark blue colour in that room I love it ,I'd like it for mine
Kind regards
Watch all your carpentry do you need an apprentice lol
Thanks
BM Newburyport Blue, FB Stiffkey Blue or C&R Payne's Grey. BM the best!
What's the subflooring?
Its anhydrite slurry, there's a whole video of it going down a few episodes ago in this Capel series, mixed on site
@@simonclifton8056 I saw that video but I didn't think that the flooring guys would bond the flooring using high temp adhesive instead of an epoxy.
Bodge 71 There is a cement based self leveller over the anhydrite screed.
The last 4 pieces he put down, he put the two small pieces at the end near the window. I thought flooring was meant to be staggered, so the lines are broken, no?
That is fine. The minimum stagger is 150mm
How is it bonded down ? Certainly flying through it
they take it up and lay adhesive.
It will depend on what he's bonding the floor to which wasn't mentioned in the video but he did say he was using a high temperature adhesive.
You prime the whole floor with it first then ?
@@Djw92they lay the floor dry first without adhesive then lift a few rows at a time to latch the adhesive and stick it back down
I think you guys are nuts using an anhydrate screed with UFH, that's just asking for trouble
How come ?
How is this stuck, was the guy just laying this loose in the video...I’m not a floor layer just wanted to know how this is stuck down
The whole floor is laid dry and then a couple of rows are taken up and the gluing starts. They works their way across the floor like that. It separates the cutting from the gluing.
I’m constantly thinking of head...annoys the wife something rotten!
Would have been nice if they explained the flooring type a bit more, never heard of this
Plenty of videos on our channel on Karndean LVT
Is this same as Amtico flooring.
yes
Hi could please me us know the wardrobe door manufacturer.
Hi Ian this is Cutwrights work maybe google them or check the link in the description
Sharps price £1800 per liniar meter! So i'd tripple that Sharps estimate!
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Once all the gear is inside the property, give it time to adapt to the environment then go ahead
Sharps would be way more than what you said Robin and it would be rubbish. Hate it when I see customers that have had them in.
Lucky for me I waited to comment, about wood floor, sorry mate, 😤🤔🤔👍
Is this Robin's personal residence?
It will be yes, hes been building it for centuries - bit like that cathedral in spain :D
I've been watching this build and the workmanship is top notch. I'm 65 and been in the game all my life and the thing that concerns me is you look fucked it's no good if your not here to enjoy. Slow down.
Lockdown has forced that slow-down. He is a lot more relaxed now. I am sure in years to come Robin will look back on these videos and wonder how he survived.
Can anyone recommend a USA or USA west coast based company like Cutwrights?
This is a pity to put a cheap flexible floor in a nice building... You should have put a dinesen-type floor rather than lino?
Going to be hard under foot, I'd have gone carpet everywhere with tiles for the kitchen personally. Does look great.
My old mans a Karndean fitter and its destroyed his body! Very hard wearing trade
Hi Joe Just to be clear, your father is a floor layer and that has taken its toll. Your comment might be construed as meaning something inherent in the Karndean has injured his health which is presumably not the case.
@@SkillBuilder oh no im not trying to put a bad word out at all its just hes been doing flooring for a long time and its took his toll on him, love the videos, watch every one!
@@SkillBuilder he started off tiling then went onto refurbishing bathrooms and also does karndean floors
That flooring looks wafer thin 🤔
Scribes
Oh ..it's him again, ..just not got time to watch , or listen
Who the fuck has there heating set to 27
So a lot of these products say need to keep below 27°c, with maxes around 30°-35°.. yet as you mention, it’s going to be sat in the sun and on a summers day, south facing floor could get up to +40°.
I’ve a south facing room (screed & UFH) and looking for flooring, no-one (yet) can give a firm answer. Had a few quotes for engineered and vinyls.. No ones willing to say “yup it’ll be fine”.
I’ll check this product of yours out.
Don’t get quickstep LVT, had issues with heat expanssion
What happened to the Chippie?? Seems he has turned into a show off.
Not a big fan of products that pretend to be other materials, like lino that looks like wood.
Funny that because I have always considered imitations a bit naff but these floors are very popular so, form Karndean's perspective they are doing the right thing.
Blaar, blaar, blaar..., blow up my balloon ...look even body ..l am a super man ..
Karndean is one of the worst companies there is. They do not stand behind anything. Gapping issues, to finish issues. You'll never get a rep to come look at it. I loved it 20 yrs. ago. They got issues. Great job installing not on you. Don't go Karndean there's better companies out there. They all got same stuff.