Dave Meltzer: “So here’s the deal, Chris Jericho and The Young Bucks, decided to instead of doing a traditional wrestling match, that they would pull their pants down and do a shit in the ring, it wasn’t to most people’s taste but hey, they got a reaction, 4 stars”
The worst thing Tony Khan ever did was giving irrelevant people like The Bucks and Dave Meltzer feel like they have any sort of impact in the wrestling industry.
Kurt Angle matches against Shawn Michaels Undertaker Brock Lesnar Benoit Samoa Joe and AJ Styles should have been awarded 5 Stars. Screw Meltzer pettiness towards Kurt Angle matches
@@kingslayer2999 agree to disagree if 5 stars is best ever no one is above 4.75 as no match is perfect even the best will tell u 1 thing they wish was done differently,Dave is a washed old fool spouting crap for cash imo
Meltzer is essentially grading athletic synchronicity as the sole fundamental criteria in what constitutes a good wrestling match; which is an unfathomable mentality for an individual who has invested his life in covering wrestling.
I'm BAFFLED that Toni Storm was women's wrestler/gimmick of the year and a week later Khan changes her gimmick and sticks her on collision and ppv pre shows
@@Algo1 I believe more that she was a 20s movie star than her getting donked in the head with a shoe and thinks she's new to the wrestling business lol
Of course Will Ospreay got 5 stars. He’s literally incapable of letting Dave down. He could take a shit in the middle of the ring and he’d still get 5 stars.
@@undertakernumberone1more like a scent of jealousy 😂😂😂😂😂 raw may of been bad but people actively wanted to watch tge debut I'd rather be seen by millions than 12 nerds all fantasy bookers no balls 😂😂😂😂
Meltzer just gave Kenny Omega vs Gabe Kidd in NJPW 5.25 stars, whatever that means. Wont be a popular opinion here but I really enjoyed the match. As a fan, these star ratings really ruin enjoyable matches. Instead of folks discussing the match, they’re talking about what Dave’s ratings mean. He’s done more damage than good to pro wrestling.
@@kidvillain188 I have a lot of respect for Omega being able to still work at a high level after the injuries/health issues he’s had. They told a great story and Kidd was seriously elevated. Hope Omega continues to drift further from AEW as they continue to grow worse.
Nah, I'm gonna give you that one. Omega for some reason is a lot better when he is in New Japan and gets serious. His matches with Okada and Naito a few years ago were amazing
@@darkwarrior1194 agreed. It’s almost like when good talent work in experienced environments with discipline and professionalism, we get a better product. Who would’ve thought??
It's a big misunderstanding that people think cause you are part of "The Cult" that you agree with everything that's being said, wrestlers have went after the so called toxic fan base of Corny not having a clue why we listen, you don't have to be in total agreement with everything to enjoy the delivery of how he says it, pure comedy gold 😂
The biggest character arc in AEW right now: Konosuke in 2023 according to Jim Cornette: Takeashit Konosuke in 2024 according to Jim Cornette: Our Boy Take
Now that we got a confirmation about Tony Khan receiving booking advices from Dave, is it safe to say that maybe Dave himself is in fact booking stuff in a unnoficial way? Like "Hey Tony, here is the story i wrote! You can take all the credit!"
Ospreay with 15 five 🌟 matches for the Calendar year and Kurt Angle doesn't have 1 to his name during his entire Career. Just let that sink in.. Ridiculous
The thing is no one would be upset about Dave's star ratings if he'd just say "look, this is just all based on my personal tastes and opinions guys, so chill out" but because he uses his own star ratings to say "you can't say this guy sucks, look how many 5 star matches he had" that's why people rip on him so much.
Kurt angle, John cena, triple H, Shawn Michaels, undertaker, Batista, AJ Styles, CM punk, Brock Lesnar, rock, stone cold should all have way more 5+ star matches than will ospreay.
When I was a kid Dave's star ratings meant a lot to me (it's how I discovered Punk vs Joe, Misawa, Kobashi and the rest of the 90s all Japan legends)now it's crazy what a joke he's become even by his own standards and how he used to rate matches
He blocks them I've heard, that's your badge of honour in my world, you should get a medal in the post saying Dave Meltzer blocked me or a t shirt at least 😂
I disagree with Jim's assessment of Okada vs Ospreay, I thought Okada actually showed up for that one, but that star rating is still ridiculously high lol
As an aside from the first minute of the vid, what sense does it make to have Jeff Jarrett go from "dark matches" on a PPV to supposedly being inserted into the main event world title picture one week later?
Will Ospreay got sixteen 5-star matches in just one year. WWE has twenty 5-star matches overall. Ospreay must have the greatest dick in the world because Dave keeps giving him all these 5-star ratings when most of them aren’t even that great.
@ yup. Which is why AEW can’t draw casual fans. Every match is the same. WWE has a lot of faults, but different wrestlers have different styles. Oh, and they have character beyond “I can do flippy stuff.”
That is exactly why Mercedes Monet isn't Sasha Banks right now. Vince lets her and that other one leave early,as tag team champions because they had stuff they wanted to do. They get a tiny bit of success and both their heads grow 3 sizes like The Grinch's Heart. Naomi was knocked back down to Earth when nobody but IMPACT wanted her. This one needs to have her humbling moment,whatever it is.
There are two things to remember about Uncle Dave rating system. The first is that he watches AEW while tripping balls on LSD the Bucks cooked up for him and the second is Uncle Dave becomes dyslexic when he is tripping on the Buck’s bunky acid so in reality a 5 star match really is a 1 star match and 1 star match is a 5 star match
This was fun. But I think Jim is confusing the character Mercedes is playing with the real person. I don’t think there’s anything to prove that she has an inflected opinion of herself
If these wrestlers are so great why don't spend just one month of Dynamite and PPV purely calling matches in the ring? Let's see how much Dave likes them then
Hobbs at this point should’ve been treated like Lashley was in 2020 and that’s the #2 or 3 guy in the company instead he’s just a mid card guy because Tony wants to play with Okada Moxley and Omega more.
I don't even know why his star ratings get so much attention. They don't make any sense to most people, and they're just his own personal opinion. I can understand if you're a big fan of Dave and value his opinion I guess, but more and more people seem to be figuring out that Dave is a clown, so I don't think there are many of those people left.
Every mark news outlet wants to call Toni the best wrestler in the world and Dave don't ever give that chick more than 2 stars. They can't even get on the same page with their bullshit.
Mercedes/Statlander wasn’t even a “great” match imo. I guess it is good compared to the terrible matches Mercedes has had before these last two. But it was still very awkward at times, with zero psychology/story, very little selling from nonsensical moves like a tombstone on the apron, and a bad finish.
Hobbs being misuded and poorly booked is one of AEW's greatest fouls. Hes clearly on the Celltech but if he can figure that out and pass a drug test, he really should be on his way to WWE.
@MattKeller i hope he wins the WC too, itd be nice to actually see the belt on tv againand he deserves a good push. But youre right, ill believe it when i see it.
@doubledave7451 if it does happen he will face some backlash for how illogical it is but it would add some much needed unpredictability to AEW. I don't think Hobbs is ready for it either, his injury history is frightening, but it would at least generate some buzz which AEW hasn't had in forever
I had to google who dave meltzer was because he's always being mentioned, so i thought he was like super important or something and come to find out he's just a basic reporter. I would have at least thought he actually works with any of the companies. But nope, just a basic reporter. I would have even understood if he used to work for a wrestling promotion back in the day. But nope, just a basic reporter. He's basically just so happens to have consistently talked about wrestling long enough that everyone just lets him ramble on like an old man in a nursing home with dementia It's like his fame is just one big make-a-wish, or he made a basic deal with a crossroads deamon from supernatural. So, for the love of whoever you pray for, why does his opinions matter so much?
Dave gives more Stars than AEW actually has
This should be a pinned comment.😂
😂😂
Name one "star" that currently works for AEW. I'll wait....... 🍿
Damn. Stop bullying them mate 😂😂😂😂😂🎉
👏👏👏
Dave Meltzer: “So here’s the deal, Chris Jericho and The Young Bucks, decided to instead of doing a traditional wrestling match, that they would pull their pants down and do a shit in the ring, it wasn’t to most people’s taste but hey, they got a reaction, 4 stars”
You're missing a few dozen "ums" and "ya knows" but yeah besides that everything checks out
Damn, Dave is going off the Bucks, only 4 stars?
Briiiiiaaaaan.
Isn’t that what they usually do whenever they try to wrestle?
😂 I read that in his voice!
The worst thing Tony Khan ever did was giving irrelevant people like The Bucks and Dave Meltzer feel like they have any sort of impact in the wrestling industry.
You can remember a Kurt Angle match
You can’t remember a Will Ospreay match
It's like tge bucks in a weird way if you've seen 1 match you've basically seen it all...
I remember this one from WCPW a few years back where the top rope broke... but that's more because the top rope broke
Kurt Angle matches against Shawn Michaels Undertaker Brock Lesnar Benoit Samoa Joe and AJ Styles should have been awarded 5 Stars. Screw Meltzer pettiness towards Kurt Angle matches
“im no where near the level of kurt angle” - ostrich
@@kingslayer2999 agree to disagree if 5 stars is best ever no one is above 4.75 as no match is perfect even the best will tell u 1 thing they wish was done differently,Dave is a washed old fool spouting crap for cash imo
Meltzer is essentially grading athletic synchronicity as the sole fundamental criteria in what constitutes a good wrestling match; which is an unfathomable mentality for an individual who has invested his life in covering wrestling.
It would be like grading an action movie by how crisp the stunts are
If Travis drew this in the Tokyo Dome, Uncle Dave would have given him 7 stars
I'm BAFFLED that Toni Storm was women's wrestler/gimmick of the year and a week later Khan changes her gimmick and sticks her on collision and ppv pre shows
that is weird booking lol
Atp, I'd be more baffled if he was able to capitalize on her momentum.
@@WillS724 to be fair, the gimmick is working (because of Toni, not Tony, ofc).
@@Algo1 I believe more that she was a 20s movie star than her getting donked in the head with a shoe and thinks she's new to the wrestling business lol
Of course Will Ospreay got 5 stars. He’s literally incapable of letting Dave down. He could take a shit in the middle of the ring and he’d still get 5 stars.
And it would still be better than thst netflix raw LMAo
@@scentofslaughter8854 and still be watched by less, but far more insecure about the product they are watching, people.
@@undertakernumberone1more like a scent of jealousy 😂😂😂😂😂 raw may of been bad but people actively wanted to watch tge debut I'd rather be seen by millions than 12 nerds all fantasy bookers no balls 😂😂😂😂
@@scentofslaughter8854 It's highly disturbing that watching someone taking a dump actually appeals to you....
GG Osprey - "You'll Never Tame Me"
“If the live crowds don’t react or understand the stories it’s their own fault”- Dave.
I seriously believe Mario 64 has fewer stars than Uncle Dave’s AEW stash.
Oh no, that ran out a long time ago. You'd have to count every star from every individual Mario title at this point.
Meltzer just gave Kenny Omega vs Gabe Kidd in NJPW 5.25 stars, whatever that means.
Wont be a popular opinion here but I really enjoyed the match. As a fan, these star ratings really ruin enjoyable matches. Instead of folks discussing the match, they’re talking about what Dave’s ratings mean. He’s done more damage than good to pro wrestling.
Excellent match.
I thought it was really good. I really only watched it because I haven't seen Gabe Kidd since his WCPW/Defiant days.
@@kidvillain188 I have a lot of respect for Omega being able to still work at a high level after the injuries/health issues he’s had. They told a great story and Kidd was seriously elevated. Hope Omega continues to drift further from AEW as they continue to grow worse.
Nah, I'm gonna give you that one. Omega for some reason is a lot better when he is in New Japan and gets serious. His matches with Okada and Naito a few years ago were amazing
@@darkwarrior1194 agreed. It’s almost like when good talent work in experienced environments with discipline and professionalism, we get a better product. Who would’ve thought??
I don't even care if I'll end up agreeing or not with Corny, but listening to him about Dave, Hogan and others is hilarious
I dont agree with Cornette's politics.... but the guy knows wrestling and is hilarious with his criticism
It's a big misunderstanding that people think cause you are part of "The Cult" that you agree with everything that's being said, wrestlers have went after the so called toxic fan base of Corny not having a clue why we listen, you don't have to be in total agreement with everything to enjoy the delivery of how he says it, pure comedy gold 😂
I don't always agree with everything either. However I'm pretty much in agreement with him about the neckbeards and traitors.
Travis You Bloody Beautiful Bastard, where's the Ospreay as Azrael, the cat??? 😂😂😂😂😂
This one is tremendous ❤
Osprey as Azrael FTW
@patrickbarnes9462 so that's the english name 👍 i didn't knew that, we had a different name in Poland for the cat xd
osprey could fight his own shadow and melzter would still give him 5.
The biggest character arc in AEW right now:
Konosuke in 2023 according to Jim Cornette: Takeashit
Konosuke in 2024 according to Jim Cornette: Our Boy Take
Travis deserves 7 stars for this and he's not even in the Tokyo Dome.
Now that we got a confirmation about Tony Khan receiving booking advices from Dave, is it safe to say that maybe Dave himself is in fact booking stuff in a unnoficial way? Like "Hey Tony, here is the story i wrote! You can take all the credit!"
Dave and Tony has poisoned AEW and NJPW with overhype “great” comments and star ratings
I can't click these fast enough 😂
Yep
From your moms basement, I'm sure..
Hello Tony Khan burner account@@davey3884
@@davey3884
Yours
@davey3884 and you actively troll Corny's pages desperate for likes. So what does that make you?
Ospreay with 15 five 🌟 matches for the Calendar year and Kurt Angle doesn't have 1 to his name during his entire Career. Just let that sink in.. Ridiculous
16, But it's still Ridiculous
Same thing goes to Triple H, Mick Foley, Randy Orton, Bobby Roode, Shinsuke Nakamura, and Edge.
@@deontebelladonna6486 Guerrero too i believe smh
If Uncle Dave yelled in a forest without anybody around.....would it make a sound/or be a five star review? ---> eg., a typical AEW show.🤣
The thing is no one would be upset about Dave's star ratings if he'd just say "look, this is just all based on my personal tastes and opinions guys, so chill out" but because he uses his own star ratings to say "you can't say this guy sucks, look how many 5 star matches he had" that's why people rip on him so much.
Dave has said that, and this podcast covered that with great hilarity.
One of the all-time Travis masterpieces. As an '80s kid, I am fully marked out.
Dave is clearly on the spectrum. It's why he can watch these long awful shows with repetitive matches as if he's never seen a dive before.
Travis keeps upping his game
I am back to give more praise to the Director of Thumbnail Operations😂
Kurt angle, John cena, triple H, Shawn Michaels, undertaker, Batista, AJ Styles, CM punk, Brock Lesnar, rock, stone cold should all have way more 5+ star matches than will ospreay.
Dave saves that 5th star for flips
When I was a kid Dave's star ratings meant a lot to me (it's how I discovered Punk vs Joe, Misawa, Kobashi and the rest of the 90s all Japan legends)now it's crazy what a joke he's become even by his own standards and how he used to rate matches
Anyone remember when Meltzer fell for the "Vader dead" gag?
Vader's dead?
The World will End before Dave Meltzer gives AEW Legitimate 🌟 Ratings
Has anyone ever called out Meltzer on Twitter for his stupid ratings system?
@@vincesmith2499 all the time lol, he’s known to respond too
He blocks them I've heard, that's your badge of honour in my world, you should get a medal in the post saying Dave Meltzer blocked me or a t shirt at least 😂
I give infinity stars for Travis' work. I can always tell Cornys clips are gonna be great just by what Travis draws
Jim rags on the pointer sisters and then makes a jumping jack flash reference for all the kids out there.👌
Hobbs and Wardlow need to get the f out of that company. With some work they could be monsters in NXT
Dave Meltzer is going to give the most stars ever in his career at the Tokyo Dome with Wrestle Kingdom
Does ‘Dementia Dave’ even know where he is half the time? The rasslin’ business is past him at this point.
I think he has legit dementia with Autism maybe Asperger's, I wish I was joking but it's kinda obvious
I disagree with Jim's assessment of Okada vs Ospreay, I thought Okada actually showed up for that one, but that star rating is still ridiculously high lol
@@L3ghair Okada definitely moves a lot slower than he used to but he’s still putting in the work
@ oh for sure, I just thought he actually ramped it up a bit in that one and looked much closer to the Okada we remember.
Why does ospreay always get 5 stars? One or two or three 5 star matches? Maybe. But every match is somehow 5 stars
His bangers and mash tastes good to dave i guess.
Ospeay gets .0001 stars for every move that looks cooperative. Adds that up and it is easy to get to at least 5.0
I mean if you like no sells and a thousand kick outs of finishers, then you probably deserve 5 stars.
Bro the thumbnail!!!! 🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾
Osprey could take a dump in the ring and Dave would give it 5 stars
7 if it happens in the Tokyo Dome
I'll think of this as an appetizer before we get the observer awards in a month or so
As an aside from the first minute of the vid, what sense does it make to have Jeff Jarrett go from "dark matches" on a PPV to supposedly being inserted into the main event world title picture one week later?
Will Ospreay got sixteen 5-star matches in just one year.
WWE has twenty 5-star matches overall.
Ospreay must have the greatest dick in the world because Dave keeps giving him all these 5-star ratings when most of them aren’t even that great.
They are all exactly the same. Every Osprey match looks like every Osprey match.
@@tuuk17him, the Bucks and Omega. They all do the exact same things in every match.
@ yup. Which is why AEW can’t draw casual fans. Every match is the same. WWE has a lot of faults, but different wrestlers have different styles. Oh, and they have character beyond “I can do flippy stuff.”
Hope we get some star ratings from the Tokyo Dome shows so we can get 7 and 8 stars
Lol great thumbnail
So that means that 16 of Will's opponents had 5 star matches as well
And There all going to be forgotten lol
@@deontebelladonna6486 facts don't even know who the 16 are lol
Only Steven Flowe can save AEW.
Truth is ever since Meltzer said the scale was infinite, he stupidly rendered his ratings utterly useless even by his own cockeyed standards.
And meanwhile Kurt Angle has zero five star matches…
Man, this makes me want to watch a Kurt angle match now
Cue up "Star Star" from the Rolling Stones.
I love the video, but i dont need more fuel for my nightmares with the thumbnail, its beautiful
That is exactly why Mercedes Monet isn't Sasha Banks right now. Vince lets her and that other one leave early,as tag team champions because they had stuff they wanted to do. They get a tiny bit of success and both their heads grow 3 sizes like The Grinch's Heart. Naomi was knocked back down to Earth when nobody but IMPACT wanted her. This one needs to have her humbling moment,whatever it is.
There are two things to remember about Uncle Dave rating system. The first is that he watches AEW while tripping balls on LSD the Bucks cooked up for him and the second is Uncle Dave becomes dyslexic when he is tripping on the Buck’s bunky acid so in reality a 5 star match really is a 1 star match and 1 star match is a 5 star match
If a tree does a shooting star press in the forest, but know one saw it, did it matter?
Jim should give his own ratings as a rebuttal to Dave.
Uncle Dave: Kurt Thomas gave a six star performance in Gymkata!🙃
TK should be pushing Leyla Grey.
4:08 ... JC is finally seeing it.
It’s sucks that Jim doesn’t seem to recall any of mercedes wwe run. He’ll learn to appreciate her once she returns.
Gargamel Cornette and Meltzette
I thought the end of The World happened decades ago when WWE decided to shut down that awful excuse for a restaurant they had down... 😂😂😂😂😂
Did they reuse some art?
This was fun. But I think Jim is confusing the character Mercedes is playing with the real person. I don’t think there’s anything to prove that she has an inflected opinion of herself
If Jim Cornette returns to manage cm punk, we would all give it 10 stars
Honest question...Does Dave Meltzers star rating even matter? Besides getting a laugh on Jim's channel, I pay this shit no mind.
im surprised jim isn't more into okada for clearly taking tony's money and not giving a fuck about what happens on tony's tv.
How can the best wrestler in all of history not be the biggest star in AEW?
I remind people that thunder rosa vs Mariah May got a better star rating than the rock vs hulk hogan. On what planet???
Cornymel
If these wrestlers are so great why don't spend just one month of Dynamite and PPV purely calling matches in the ring? Let's see how much Dave likes them then
The difference sis that Dave studies this stuff....
...bold prediction...
...when AEW gets around to announcing their own Hall of Fame...Dave will be in the first group...
I gotta think TK is on the spectrum.
He's the son of a billionaire, his brain isn't like ours
Meltzer Star Ratings is a FN joke just like All Embarrassing Wrastling and Tiny The Coke Clown !
TK's dealer gets 6 stars. ❄❄❄❄❄❄
With how much Dave lies he would make a good politician 😂😂.
Hobbs at this point should’ve been treated like Lashley was in 2020 and that’s the #2 or 3 guy in the company instead he’s just a mid card guy because Tony wants to play with Okada Moxley and Omega more.
Got my morning poops material thanks guys
Mercedes vs Statlander was all right , it was not great
I don't even know why his star ratings get so much attention. They don't make any sense to most people, and they're just his own personal opinion. I can understand if you're a big fan of Dave and value his opinion I guess, but more and more people seem to be figuring out that Dave is a clown, so I don't think there are many of those people left.
Every mark news outlet wants to call Toni the best wrestler in the world and Dave don't ever give that chick more than 2 stars. They can't even get on the same page with their bullshit.
So does this thumbnail mean Brian is Azrael?
Not enough stars in the sky to placate unca dave
Fletcher five stars??? LOL allllllright.
Jim Garganette
Let's face it smurfette was passed around😎
Gargameltzer
Gargamel!!!!
Mercedes/Statlander wasn’t even a “great” match imo. I guess it is good compared to the terrible matches Mercedes has had before these last two. But it was still very awkward at times, with zero psychology/story, very little selling from nonsensical moves like a tombstone on the apron, and a bad finish.
Meltzer should just work in a preschool since all he does is give out stars for not consciousable reason
Can we just ignore Meltzer and AEW. Both are a complete waste of time.
Smurf Tv Show
Dave Gargameltzer.
Well it's an interesting thing lol
Hobbs being misuded and poorly booked is one of AEW's greatest fouls. Hes clearly on the Celltech but if he can figure that out and pass a drug test, he really should be on his way to WWE.
He just won a title shot on Wednesday. People are hoping for a shock upset against Mox but I'll believe it when I see it
@MattKeller i hope he wins the WC too, itd be nice to actually see the belt on tv againand he deserves a good push. But youre right, ill believe it when i see it.
@doubledave7451 if it does happen he will face some backlash for how illogical it is but it would add some much needed unpredictability to AEW. I don't think Hobbs is ready for it either, his injury history is frightening, but it would at least generate some buzz which AEW hasn't had in forever
I had to google who dave meltzer was because he's always being mentioned, so i thought he was like super important or something and come to find out he's just a basic reporter.
I would have at least thought he actually works with any of the companies. But nope, just a basic reporter. I would have even understood if he used to work for a wrestling promotion back in the day. But nope, just a basic reporter.
He's basically just so happens to have consistently talked about wrestling long enough that everyone just lets him ramble on like an old man in a nursing home with dementia
It's like his fame is just one big make-a-wish, or he made a basic deal with a crossroads deamon from supernatural. So, for the love of whoever you pray for, why does his opinions matter so much?
Cornemel.
Letting someone elses opinion bother you is therapy needing behaviour
Disabled Dave at it again