I think Cody leaving was a stiff jab to the face, Punk being fired was a follow up straight right, Punk rejoining WWE was a follow up left hook that dropped them to the canvas, AEW airing the All In footage was the beginning of the ground and pound and all of the problems with the shitty treatment of talent backstage is continued undefended ground and pound … we’re just waiting on the referee to step in and call it off! … unfortunately, Tony Khan is Mario Yamasaki! He’ll just let them die before he calls it off
@@NJTRAFBeautiful put. Punk is still affecting them greatly being gone. And Cody felt like the only adult EVP, who was the glue that kept the promotion somewhat together
Put the release of the backstage fight with punk on that list. Making jungle boy look like a child making punk the face of the aew company (when he was already back in WWE).
So basically everything Cornette said about AEW from the beginning has been mostly proven out. Meanwhile, AEW’s biggest stars are in the WWE or at home.
@@FloridaCoast Oh so much. The arenas are mostly empty, the storylines go nowhere, there is no top star because everyone has to get over everyone else, the writing is a mess because they have to let everyone do whatever they want, they blow millions on licensed music, the roster is bloated, the disgusting death matches are so often it turns off most fans, let alone casually audiences, it goes on and on.
He was only "wrong" about them going bust by now because he was still thinking about what would happen if they had to actually make money, rather than have unlimited family billions for Tony to flush down the toilet
Love how the AEW fans went from " He needs us to stay relevant" to "Leave us alone! Why is he using his large platform to target us" in only a few years 😂😂
@FloridaCoast A bunch of their top wrestlers wanted a guy fired over some friken fights or insults. They're so petty and feminine.. the opposite of what wrestlers are supposed to be. And kahn/AEW is still pushing those guys and giving them wins as if they're tough or badaxsses. AEW is killing kayfabe..
Hobbs and Hayter are the funniest fumbles.. They went away long enough for people to want them and Tony IMMEDIATELY throws them into random tags and rampage segments 😂
It's the same type of deal with ratings. If AEW is winning, either measuably or with cherrypicking stats of specific timeslots or demo group, it's a cause for gloating. When they're getting beat, then there's either invariably [insert excuse that is out of their hands], or"... but it's not a contest."
"Any minute now, Punk's going to self-destruct and get into a shoot fight with Drew/Seth/Triple H that gets him fired" - people who have no idea how things work in a serious company
The problem with those AEW guys isn't them getting into or wanting fights. That's normal in my opinion. The problem was them firing Punk/wanting Punk to get fired over it (or the insults). That was so petty and feminine.. Drew, Seth, etc would fight too, which like i said is fine imo, but they are adults and will still do business afterwards. They care about doing business and making a lot of money more than showing off their hurt feelings
I can’t wait for Corny to review Saturday Nights Main Event, and maybe discuss the fact that WWE drew 1.5m viewers on a Saturday night, when Collision drew like 270k … just goes to show that the audience is there if you put on a good show and promote it 🤷🏻♂️😂
Pretty sure wwe was hoping for a way bigger number. They drew the exact same number as they would have on Monday nights. It just goes to show you that only die hard fans still watch wrestling. You could have put that show on any day of the week or time and it would have drawn the same number
@ are you fucking serious? You’re just making shit up 😂 - I’m 100% sure they’re more than happy to draw 1.5m on a Saturday when the key demo - 18-49 - will have a fair amount out partying, and the younger demo who aren’t at school will be playing Fortnite or Call of Duty with their friends… 1.5m on a Saturday is a SOLID number It’s not the fucking 80’s or the 90’s any more, you rarely get much more than that. Smackdown had a run hitting 2m during the Bloodline story but other than that, it’s been pretty consistently 1.3m-1.6m for a long time
I think WWE would be pretty happy with that number.. If you add the viewship from Peacock, it comes around to 2.3 million. If they wanted to, they could've booked a way more stacked show to get a higher number. They obviously more focused on the Netflix debut at the moment coming in a couple weeks. I'm willing to bet the numbers will go up for the other shows. Especially if they do a few with their mainstream talents like a NBC Special dedicated to John Cena for example @analiysanchez9949
If that’s true it makes you wonder what Starks was witness to backstage over the years there, seeing as they can’t say it’s to stop him spilling Tony’s future plans because he hasn’t been there in months
@@Andysnyc whatever happened probably isn’t legally covered by an NDA anyway(same situation Vince finds himself in where his illegal acts aren’t actually covered by the NDA he got the illegal paralegal to sign), as I doubt there are any trade secrets going on in AEW and they clearly don’t plan ahead these days so spilling AEW secret plans to WWE isn’t likely to be the reason. Tony just loves getting people to sign NDAs, effectively buying their silence so he isn’t getting shoot interviews done about it(not that it will stop them in 10 years or less time, especially when twitter is a thing).
@Andysnyc Tony wants to look like the goody good guy who's well liked. He's probably what we all suspect. A spoiled, egotistical, heartless and incompetent. He doesn't want that going out to the public eye. He can't stomach the criticism.
@@TheBooshtbeing a mark doesn’t stop you knowing things. You’re a mark I’m a mark we’re all marks. We all invest time and money into wrestling. It’s become popular to call anyone. In the industry a mark if you don’t like them. But the reality is everyone around the business is a mark for it. I’m a mark for stone cold Steve Austin. It doesn’t change that I know a lot of things outside of wrestling that could relate back to it.
I knew he wasn't a star when he didn't stand up for Punk when/after he got fired. If you want to help the company become big, and become and be a real star, a moment like that is a moment when you need to get involved and step up and do the right thing (in this case, not letting Kahn fire Punk). Not only for a better future for the company and thus your own career, but for basic respect for wrestling. People should stand up for wrestling legends if they're being done wrong, like Punk was (no wrestler should be fired for fights or insults, especially a legend like Punk). Omega said that he wanted to make up with Punk the night the beef exploded. He said "if it weren't for a complete other factor, we would have been able to have that talk on the night of Brawl Out", which implies that he tried to fix things. What if there were more guys who tried to fix things? That could've changed everything. Where were those guys? They were supposed to be the guys like MJF. The supposed leaders and stars.. Instead of a locker room filled with leaders, it was filled with petty, feminine, and probably jealous guys, who are the opposite of leaders, though. Like Bryan Danielson (who recommended to Kahn that he fired Punk) and Chris Jericho (who said on Busten Open Radio a month after Punk got fired that AEW is "absolutely" better now than it was a month ago and said "We know the issues. The issues have been rectified.")
He was way better in MLW as part of the Dynasty with Hammerstone and Holiday. His pity me because .... gimmick in every aew story has become very boring.
AEW fans were so certain that the company would be better off without him, and the show didn't need him and would be better off and better booked. Turns out that was a fucking lie. I'm laughing so hard at how badly they missed the boat over Punk.
Once many people saw the footage, they realized AEW was lying and exaggerating about Punk. And the Bucks promo trying to make Punk a villain just made it worse on AEW
@@MultiBlack17 from people I know personally who were anti-Punk… the second they saw the All In footage and it showed that what Punk said to Ariel Helwani was the truth, not a single lie, and that what Samoa Joe had said about it being a nothing and no punches thrown being the truth they did a complete 180 on AEW! They believed the bullshit, they said “well lots of people are saying it so it must be true” and I remember arguing until I was blue in the face that it didn’t pass the sniff test to me, and once they showed the All In footage they knew Tony Khan, Dave Meltzer, Chris Jericho, Young Bucks, Adam Page, Jack Perry etc. were liars and that then immediately made them do a 180 on Brawl Out too, because if they’d lie about Brawl In with video proof, they’d lie about Brawl Out
Too many AEW "fans" refuse to question anything Tony Khan and The Young Bucks say instead of paying attention to their actions and facts. Decreasing attendance, fewer people watching on TV and streams, terrible or no storylines. But those "fans" eat it all up because it's not WWE. We should have 3 great companies right now in WWE, AEW, and TNA. WWE has improved since the 2019 and the pandemic. TNA has vastly improved and become watchable. AEW is the only one that has gotten consistently worse and it's their own doing
When Punk was fired, I gave up AEW officially. It just proved that they weren't a serious company and were so clearly sabotaging their product on purpose. There was no going back for me after that.
Regardless of what the AEW flag bearers say on social media, AEW is nowhere near where WCW was in the late-90's, and they sure as hell are nowhere near where TNA was when it was on Spike TV. Even with Shit Stain's atrocious storylines, TNA managed to get a million viewers consistently.
Its only a matter of time before TNT has had enough of this and cancels the show all together and they won't have any leverage for a new network since they are averaging like 5-600k viewers a week. Andy Griffith reruns get that. WCW was pulling low to mid 2s in 2000.
Starks was sent home because Edge couldn't handle a basic promo confrontation. For as much criticism as Jericho gets (and rightfully so) Edge has proven he's every bit as much of a massive mark for himself by doing that and then screwing his ankle up on a stupid spot.
That may have a lot to do with it. But after edge got hurt, he could have brought him back. I personally don't like starks and I don't see what the big deal is with him. He's done nothing great in the time I've known about him. That CVV interview is probably the biggest thing he's done
It's crazy to believe that Edge got so upset just from Ricky saying, "bug eyes." This is the same guy who beat up another man's dad in his own house. Does going to AEW automatically make people soft?
Collision while Punk was there has been the best wrestling show i've seen since at least 2009. A lot of people are liking the current raws and smackdowns, and I like HHH and WWE, and a lot of the wrestlers in WWE, but these days i find myself only watching the CM Punk and Kevin Owens segments. And most of the time i'll keep up with the Bloodline stuff (i'm a big fan of Roman, Fatu, and Solo) too, and rarely i might also watch some of the other segments, but otherwise i'm not really that interested. I found Collision way better than these current raws and smackdowns. I would be hooked on those episodes from start to finish. Not only did they have CM Punk there every week, who, in addition to just being CM Punk and always being great, had this unreal aura to him after how he came back on that debut episode of Collision and delivered that fire promo, but they had other actual interesting storylines, like the stuff with the Bullet Club (who, especially Jay White, were being built up so good), and Ricky Starks. And it was hella cool when some of those guys interacted with Punk, and there were so many interesting possible directions things could go, in terms of possibe feuds and storylines. And the tag team stuff was actually good too. I wonder why Collision was so good? There was a rumor that Punk was booking it or had a lot of say in the booking, and i haven't watched Collision since they fired Punk, but i heard it sucks now, so it makes sense that that was the case.. Aside from the booking though, the biggest thing that made it great was Punk. Punk is great now on these WWE shows like he's always been, but he was on another level on those Collision shows. He seemed like he was possessed. He had this new style and look, and he had this huge chip on his shoulder. Looking back, he had that same feel and vibe to him that he had in 2013 in WWE (his best year there in my opinion). Or that prime Goldberg had when he came to WWE TV and feuded with The Rock. Or that Hollywood Rock had when he came back and had that run for a couple months before going back to Hollywood, or that Final Boss Rock had/has. Even though Punk wasn't at Collision long enough to have any long feuds or anything, that was still my favorite version of CM Punk ever. AEW should've took that CM Punk and had him beat MJF to unify the belts, or just made his belt an official 2nd world title, and kept what they had on Collision going, and eventually incoporate Punk on Dynamite too, in a feud against Omega (who i love and think would be a great rival for Punk, by the way) and The Elite. The thing with CM Punk now is that he's brought out such good sxhit from Drew Mcyintyre and Seth Rollins. But, and if anyone else was watching Collision too, i bet they'd agree with me, that AEW situation/The Elite brought out even more from Punk! That's how unique, and also big, that situation was. So we could've gotten an all-time great, and very possibly the best, CM Punk run, an exciting wrestling show (Collision) every week for the first time in so long, and an all-time great feud that i think would've been so good that it could've actually made AEW big, and even possibly made wrestling more popular in general. AEW, in my opinion, would've had to start doing way better with their advertising too though, for those last 2 things to have possibly happened. I'm sad that AEW threw all of that potential down the drain... For what? Because Kahn wanted to fire him and make a statement that not hurting people's feelings is really important? What the heck did they do man... And i just want to say here, that Omega is cool, unlike The Bucks (who ran a victory lap around the ring the night Punk got fired) and Kahn. He said that he wanted to make up with Punk the night the beef exploded. He said "if it weren't for a complete other factor, we would have been able to have that talk on the night of Brawl Out", which implied that he tried to fix things. So don't blame Omega for those potentially great losses that wrestling has suffered!
The way they continue to double and triple down on things that nobody cares about is wild. They just continue to do things like the continental classic, Moxley storyline etc. while more and more people tune out
@@JasonGibbs-o1l not that it means much but Dominik rose to #1 on the ESPN 30 best pro wrestlers under 30 list this year, while MJF was #1 in 2023. NXT has had a bump whenever Dom has been on their programming meanwhile AEW remains flat with MJF being regularly on Dynamite .
They forgot to mention none of the ppl who started the company are there anymore. Cody is killing it in WWE while The Bucks and Kenny are hiding out in NJPW because no one wants to watch them anymore. And Tony is still paying them millions of dollars.
The only people who are still watching AEW either work for them, are man-childs who yearn for the ECW days, or are people hate-watching it just so they can make content. It's a mess.
AEW let go of the wrong guys. Their PPVs are unwatchable in one sitting. Every match gets at least 20 minutes, every match. Vince loved the big guys, most couldn't wrestle. But, they were believable. Tony loves the little guys, and gives them way too much.
I live in Arlington. The buzz AEW has generated since announcing All In Texas is very small, compared to the buzz WWE garnered for both Wrestlemanias that took place here. My favorite part of All In Texas is seeing all the AEW fans say that All In Texas will be a greater show than both Arlington Wrestlemanias, all while not realizing that AT&T Stadium has a higher capacity than Globe Life Field.
@@HappyCentaur-jm9lm That right there is a sterling example. Think of this. Kevin Von Erich's Sons Marshall and Ross joined with Dusty Rhodes's Son Dustin not long ago to win the Inaugural AEW Six Man Championship in Texas no less. Think of the astonishing Familial Legacies and Texas Pro Wrestling Traditions involved. This ongoing Story writes itself. So where in the Sam 🤬 Hill is the blessed Booking and Publicization for this?!😡🤦♂️🤼♂️B.W.
@madbrowniac7871 the treatment of the Von Erichs is insane. There was a major movie, MJF was in it, and they paired them with Danhausen, gave them no promos, and dropped them from Dynamite.
The only reason Dave tries so hard to glaze AEW is purely because his only wish has been to see this type of wrestling that he championed as better for a decade a chance at mainstream appeal and everyone decidedly hates it. Nothing beyond that matters, I highly doubt he is actually a part of AEW in any capacity.
@ the thing is, I read a comment on another video where someone said that he didn’t even champion this particular style so much until the Young Bucks did the whole “Meltzer Driver” schtick and started to deliberately cater to him, then all of a sudden he was all over it. Now I don’t know if that’s true or not, im not a WON subscriber and don’t pay his opinions any heed, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s true because he’s a fucking egomaniac
Seeing how Tony started the company up with his inheritance, I'd guess that the moment TK's Richie Rich Trust Fund dries up, and Papa Khan (let me rock you, let me rock you Papa Khan) is asked to toss in non-inheritance money pretty please might be the tipping point.
To add to the NDA Cody thing, let's also not forget Punk famously said he didn't sign a NDA for anything he did wrong which begs the question what the hell did the Elite do that night of the brawl out.
Seeing as they're marks, I guarantee you they double super kicked the door to Punk's locker room. Probably had to do it twice to open it, which would explain how Larry got his teeth knocked out before winding up in Kenny's arms, and would explain the retaliatory force that was Ace chucking a chair at whichever twink he did. 😂
The thing that an incredible amount of IWC marks that were dog-piling on Punk after Brawl-Out just loved to leave out was the fact that the Bucks and Omega are EVP’s and even the act of storming into the talents locker room, looking for a fight could be something that could legally come back to bite them in the a**. Even that would be worthy of an NDA for Tony I imagine. I guess we’ll never truly know what went down though. Maybe one day Punk will be able to, but it’d still just be his version (although his version of All-In was proven to be true, by Tony himself).
The most interesting story AEW has done in the last year was the Jeff Jarrett/Owen Hart thing, and they blew it. Jarett should have got wins but more and more by the skin of his teeth, even resorting to heel tactics and cheating against his wishes, but because he was desperate to prove he could hang and honor his friend.
AEW died the day TK went on air and said he feared for his life. I still can't believe a guy who grew up idolising ECW and the attitude era thought that was a good idea. The stank of lame still looms from that day. I still think AEW could be saved but it would need some drastic changes and it would take a long long loooong time to change people's minds. I wish we were in that alternate universe where Corny didn't get booted from NWA commentary and they built up real rasslers there
The same time that they were dropping starks off the card for going to the royal rumble; they were crying about Tribalism and people not loving all companies.
He literally dropped a program with The Elite because he was afraid people would think he wasn’t booking the show… That’s an astronomical level of insecure and tone deaf. Idk how anyone does anything except make fun of somebody that precious.
Tony Khan doesn't want everyone to realize what we already know.. he is a socially awkward, messageboard nepo baby living out his childhood fantasy of be a wrestling promoter with his daddy's money. He's so childish he would rather have people like Ricky Starks and Rey Fenix sit at home and pay them to do nothing rather than let them go and become an actual star with WWE. Judging by his terrible booking of the women's division too, it wouldn't surprise me if he was also an incel.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but never in history of wrestling we had so much excuses. Even ECW with Heyman and the most loyal and hardcore fans realized when things went sour...
Seems like WWE is targeting a specific type of indie promotion, ones either with links to their current wrestlers/trainers or tries to take their shows seriously instead of having 300 lbs truck drivers trying to do flips to each other and failing miserably(those type of shows are probably going to be AEWs only supply for talent in the future more than likely if this iD thing works out)
You can tell shit’s really going off the rails because there are more comments here from AEW marks than I’ve seen on a video of Jim and Brian’s in a very long time.
They did that when AEW started but then the plandemic happened, and they had to trim the fat. Now they are in a much better position professionally and have a better reputation with the indies than before, are able to rinse that doofus pissant company to death and leave them with scraps and retirees 😂
I'd like to hear Jim talk about all these AI pictures with him and people like Russo, Kenny, the Bucks, etc etc.. hugging, making hearts, etc together. It is hilarious.
Exactly what Punk hasn't done to get himself fired? The dude's a drama queen. Always been that way. Explain to me how a 50 year old fragile old man got into 3 major scandals in 2 years?
@@TheCho-k4mfor like 5 months. Cody left first and then punk. My timeline isn’t wrong. I don’t think aew would survive if Cody left without punk being there
@@PlayStopRewindFilms no, you said Cody left and then Punk came. Check your post. That is not how it happened, Cody and Punk were both on the roster at the same time for quite a while. There was no noticeable drop in ratings when Cody left but it has been catastrophic since Punk was fired.
AEW being the product it is and has been for years, was the best case scenario for Jim because it's provided a lot of actual comedy on both of his podcasts.
I used to think that Cody leaving hurt but was survivable and that the Punk saga is what sent AEW plummeting. My stance has slightly changed in hindsight. I do agree now that losing Cody was more of the first domino of AEW’s implosion than anyone realizes at the time. Because when Cody left they lost his behind the scenes leadership and sense of direction. They lost that element of ambition and the idea that they wanted to grow as a company as well. Losing Cody was a death blow in a lot of ways but MAINLY because when Cody left that REALLY only left Tony Khan to fully take the steering wheel of AEW and that has proven to be the most fatal thing that has happened for this company. The Punk saga was simply snapping everyone out of the honeymoon phase of the company and letting everyone realize the reality of it is that the company had tremendous leadership/direction and future planning/proofing issues (stemming from horrid booking) issues that so many fans wrote off at the beginning as “problems they would grow out of” but never did. If shit didn’t hit the fan with Punk and cause this disillusionment it would’ve happened with someone else. If there’s one thing I think we can agree on is that where AEW is at now was inevitable with Tony steering the ship. Cody leaving was a crippling blow but the Punk saga let everyone see how much that loss really hurt in some ways. It should have been a huge wake up call but unfortunately for them I don’t know that this is a lesson that they’ve learned from or will even survive long enough to cultivate by the time Tony does realize (but again he won’t).
Not gonna lie...those obnoxious AEW defenders from the past are almost nonexistent on social media now. Either they got quiet or nooooooobody watches that garbage anymore.
I want someone to do the math. While we can't get how much money they've made due to being a private company, we can get a guess in other ways: 1. How many tickets they sold, how much was the price for the tickets at each show this includes PPV and live shows. 2. Then include renting these arenas, which i can guess isn't around a four digit number but rather a five or six. Also include whatever percentage the owners of the buildings get from these shows. 3. Include also travel expenses from airfair, rental cars, hotels, and security as well along with staff (yes WBD pay for producing the shows but they're not paying for talent, their travel expenses, etc.) 4. Include also merchandise sales which is probably not a lot but lets say for the sake of argument they managed to sell half of their products (despite not seeing people wear the stuff on TV) 5. Also dont forget the equipment for all their crazy gimmick matches, licensing music, and fixing any broken ring stuff. 6. And finally, guess the money the talent are getting per year. Calculate it all and we might get an idea of how much they made and how the losses will be.
That's all been done already by wrestlenomics. Brian and Jim have already talked about all the estimates. The company hasn't made a dime in their existence because of how much Tony spends on it.
One of the most offensive things on the the Dave/AEW front is that AEW can almost be viewed like early-mid TNA except it’s never received the same harsh criticisms or honest reporting from Meltzer. They could be relentless on TNA’s failures, backstage politics, poor booking, bad management, etc. yet when covering AEW now that honesty is gone and it’s all through rose colored glasses.
Dave says the tv ratings go down cause less people are watching Tv shows on regular TV each year. Let’s say for argument sakes that’s true, then explain the live attendances going down? If someone enjoys the product and it’s in town, there’s a decent chance they’ll go but they aren’t
@@wilcee238 Yea, really. Jeff Hardy came in the moment Cody left. Now what would have happened if Tony had paid what Cody's worth instead and ignore the useless junkie? I can only guess, but pretty sure the entire Elite vs Punk confrontation would have been handled completely different.
I don't really wish bad on the company but it's so hard to sympathize with its pompous fans. Six years ago they said AEW was going to be superior to WWE in every conceivable way. If you weren't down with that, they had 2 words for you. How's that workin out?
Yeah cuz Cornette and his fanbase are the most peaceful human beings ever right? Your entire existence is based on trashing AEW and Meltzer. This fragile weak grandpa is nothing without AEW. Nothing.
Brian is absolutely delusional on Wardlow. He was never going to be over after the MJF payoff with the AEW audience, no matter how you book him. The powerbomb gimmick was literally the only thing people were reacting to, and it was in the same ironic way they yell MEAT when big dudes hit each other. You could have put Luther or Ralphus in that role and the potential ceiling would be about the same.
With the right booking and the right presentation, Wardlow could have been somebody. They could have attempted a Goldberg-style project with him - or at least early Braun Strowman, before WWE bungled him and made him utterly ridiculous. I'm not saying it would have worked, necessarily. But it's far too late to even try that now.
@@vb2806 Never seen anyone in aew cry about cornette, in fact i've seen people mention him and use his material. Just so you know aew was profitable :)
@@scentofslaughter8854 You mean the guy your personal lord and saviour Tony Khan spent a week on the phone with in 2018, to get him to work for AEW from day one? That's the problem with being in a cult. Facts are not your friend. Because reality doesn't care about your delusions and self-indoctrination. You're white-knighting for a nepo baby's silly money-incinerating hobby as if it's your religion. If AEW is going to be profitable in 2025, it's because David Zaslav is the most ridiculous idiot who ever ran an entertainment company - and WBD is more dysfunctional than Disney, Time Warner, WCW, TNA, AEW, and UWF combined.
Aew releasing punks video and making him completely right is the beginning of the end. See how happy punk looks at nxt when he can teach people who want to learn
Forgot where i got this factoid from but it's floating in my head.... there's on average 10-11 people at any given time playing fight forever... either on steam or ps4 i dont recall
Am I the only person that is surprised AEW hasnt signed "Supperhumman" the obviously intellectually challenged guy that jumps on to random objects in his backyard?
Oh yeah,16000 Samoans kissing each other every single week or a bleached haired neck tattooed midcarder screaming "woahh" to his 2 year old fans is exactly how to be a "top guy"!
Cody and Punk leaving was the 1-2 punch that i dont believe AEW can really recover from.
I think Cody leaving was a stiff jab to the face, Punk being fired was a follow up straight right, Punk rejoining WWE was a follow up left hook that dropped them to the canvas, AEW airing the All In footage was the beginning of the ground and pound and all of the problems with the shitty treatment of talent backstage is continued undefended ground and pound … we’re just waiting on the referee to step in and call it off!
… unfortunately, Tony Khan is Mario Yamasaki! He’ll just let them die before he calls it off
AEW was trash even when they were there.
@@NJTRAFBeautiful put. Punk is still affecting them greatly being gone. And Cody felt like the only adult EVP, who was the glue that kept the promotion somewhat together
Put the release of the backstage fight with punk on that list.
Making jungle boy look like a child making punk the face of the aew company (when he was already back in WWE).
@@DomLab-g2nYeah, no one said it was amazing booking. It was trash but no where near as bad as it is now.
So basically everything Cornette said about AEW from the beginning has been mostly proven out. Meanwhile, AEW’s biggest stars are in the WWE or at home.
@ghostface216 what's wrong with AEW?
@@FloridaCoastStop spamming.
@@FloridaCoast Oh so much. The arenas are mostly empty, the storylines go nowhere, there is no top star because everyone has to get over everyone else, the writing is a mess because they have to let everyone do whatever they want, they blow millions on licensed music, the roster is bloated, the disgusting death matches are so often it turns off most fans, let alone casually audiences, it goes on and on.
He was only "wrong" about them going bust by now because he was still thinking about what would happen if they had to actually make money, rather than have unlimited family billions for Tony to flush down the toilet
It’s always a treat to see the level of delusion that Cornette has cast over his fanbase.
Love how the AEW fans went from " He needs us to stay relevant" to
"Leave us alone! Why is he using his large platform to target us" in only a few years 😂😂
Lol who is saying that (I'm no super fan)
It’s kinda true, he gets the most views when talking about AEW
What's wrong with AEW?
lolyes
@FloridaCoast A bunch of their top wrestlers wanted a guy fired over some friken fights or insults. They're so petty and feminine.. the opposite of what wrestlers are supposed to be. And kahn/AEW is still pushing those guys and giving them wins as if they're tough or badaxsses. AEW is killing kayfabe..
A million dollar gate is nothing for a show that costs 3 million to produce.
3 million to produce a week
A loss is a loss
But Meltzer math means that aew earned $4 mill in profit
Especially when you can only do that a handful of times a year, at best.
3 million is extremely generous
Hobbs and Hayter are the funniest fumbles.. They went away long enough for people to want them and Tony IMMEDIATELY throws them into random tags and rampage segments 😂
And Wardlow
Isn’t he facing takeshita for the title?
@@tradertrader6070 yup after being slotted into multiple losses
@@javi994 I was never as high on Wardlow as others, but people did like him alot
@@grammysworld5449 who did he loose to since coming back?
You can either run a nationally televised wrestling company, or you can be safe from criticism. It’s not gonna be both, brother.
But aew is giving people job, like the bald ftr guy keeps saying every other week.
Wwe doesn't pay people, everyone works for free over there.
In AEW, "i hate you", "i hate you too"
In WWE "i hate you", "i hate you too, but lets make some $%^&ing money", "hell yeah"
It's the same type of deal with ratings. If AEW is winning, either measuably or with cherrypicking stats of specific timeslots or demo group, it's a cause for gloating. When they're getting beat, then there's either invariably [insert excuse that is out of their hands], or"... but it's not a contest."
"Any minute now, Punk's going to self-destruct and get into a shoot fight with Drew/Seth/Triple H that gets him fired" - people who have no idea how things work in a serious company
The problem with those AEW guys isn't them getting into or wanting fights. That's normal in my opinion. The problem was them firing Punk/wanting Punk to get fired over it (or the insults). That was so petty and feminine.. Drew, Seth, etc would fight too, which like i said is fine imo, but they are adults and will still do business afterwards. They care about doing business and making a lot of money more than showing off their hurt feelings
@@CyborgElbow I know how things work with a man who’s burned every other bridge and has no choice but to behave
Glaze fest smh shutup
I can’t wait for Corny to review Saturday Nights Main Event, and maybe discuss the fact that WWE drew 1.5m viewers on a Saturday night, when Collision drew like 270k … just goes to show that the audience is there if you put on a good show and promote it 🤷🏻♂️😂
Pretty sure wwe was hoping for a way bigger number. They drew the exact same number as they would have on Monday nights. It just goes to show you that only die hard fans still watch wrestling. You could have put that show on any day of the week or time and it would have drawn the same number
@ are you fucking serious? You’re just making shit up 😂 - I’m 100% sure they’re more than happy to draw 1.5m on a Saturday when the key demo - 18-49 - will have a fair amount out partying, and the younger demo who aren’t at school will be playing Fortnite or Call of Duty with their friends… 1.5m on a Saturday is a SOLID number
It’s not the fucking 80’s or the 90’s any more, you rarely get much more than that. Smackdown had a run hitting 2m during the Bloodline story but other than that, it’s been pretty consistently 1.3m-1.6m for a long time
2.3 million, 1.5 from cable, over 700,000 from peacock
@@analiysanchez9949 your powers of deflection are impeccable. Send your resume to AEW, you sound just like you would excel there.
I think WWE would be pretty happy with that number.. If you add the viewship from Peacock, it comes around to 2.3 million. If they wanted to, they could've booked a way more stacked show to get a higher number. They obviously more focused on the Netflix debut at the moment coming in a couple weeks. I'm willing to bet the numbers will go up for the other shows. Especially if they do a few with their mainstream talents like a NBC Special dedicated to John Cena for example @analiysanchez9949
What if the reason Starks hasn't been released is because he won't sign an NDA?
If that’s true it makes you wonder what Starks was witness to backstage over the years there, seeing as they can’t say it’s to stop him spilling Tony’s future plans because he hasn’t been there in months
@@CairnieRI heard the NDA is that he saw Punk give Tiny a wedgie.
If that's the case, what happened that there needs to be an NDA? If that gets out, what will happen?
@@Andysnyc whatever happened probably isn’t legally covered by an NDA anyway(same situation Vince finds himself in where his illegal acts aren’t actually covered by the NDA he got the illegal paralegal to sign), as I doubt there are any trade secrets going on in AEW and they clearly don’t plan ahead these days so spilling AEW secret plans to WWE isn’t likely to be the reason. Tony just loves getting people to sign NDAs, effectively buying their silence so he isn’t getting shoot interviews done about it(not that it will stop them in 10 years or less time, especially when twitter is a thing).
@Andysnyc Tony wants to look like the goody good guy who's well liked. He's probably what we all suspect. A spoiled, egotistical, heartless and incompetent.
He doesn't want that going out to the public eye.
He can't stomach the criticism.
Meltzer doesn't know the difference between profit and revenue.
He doesn't know the difference in rambling on for six pages and making a single, cogent paragraph of writing either.
Like in fairness, how could he when all he is a mark.
@@TheBooshtbeing a mark doesn’t stop you knowing things. You’re a mark I’m a mark we’re all marks. We all invest time and money into wrestling. It’s become popular to call anyone. In the industry a mark if you don’t like them. But the reality is everyone around the business is a mark for it. I’m a mark for stone cold Steve Austin. It doesn’t change that I know a lot of things outside of wrestling that could relate back to it.
@@Giveme1goodreasonCut the bs mutant.
MJF is not a star, he's completely fallen off a cliff
He's feuding with The Costco Guys on the indies lately 😅
@@romelmunoz7957by that logic Cody fell off because he feuded with Logan Paul 😂
I knew he wasn't a star when he didn't stand up for Punk when/after he got fired. If you want to help the company become big, and become and be a real star, a moment like that is a moment when you need to get involved and step up and do the right thing (in this case, not letting Kahn fire Punk). Not only for a better future for the company and thus your own career, but for basic respect for wrestling. People should stand up for wrestling legends if they're being done wrong, like Punk was (no wrestler should be fired for fights or insults, especially a legend like Punk). Omega said that he wanted to make up with Punk the night the beef exploded. He said "if it weren't for a complete other factor, we would have been able to have that talk on the night of Brawl Out", which implies that he tried to fix things. What if there were more guys who tried to fix things? That could've changed everything. Where were those guys? They were supposed to be the guys like MJF. The supposed leaders and stars.. Instead of a locker room filled with leaders, it was filled with petty, feminine, and probably jealous guys, who are the opposite of leaders, though. Like Bryan Danielson (who recommended to Kahn that he fired Punk) and Chris Jericho (who said on Busten Open Radio a month after Punk got fired that AEW is "absolutely" better now than it was a month ago and said "We know the issues. The issues have been rectified.")
@@tradertrader6070cody was doing that on wwe TV
He was way better in MLW as part of the Dynasty with Hammerstone and Holiday. His pity me because .... gimmick in every aew story has become very boring.
The trajectory of this company after the Punk exit has been absolutely incredible to watch.
AEW fans were so certain that the company would be better off without him, and the show didn't need him and would be better off and better booked. Turns out that was a fucking lie.
I'm laughing so hard at how badly they missed the boat over Punk.
Once many people saw the footage, they realized AEW was lying and exaggerating about Punk. And the Bucks promo trying to make Punk a villain just made it worse on AEW
@@MultiBlack17 from people I know personally who were anti-Punk… the second they saw the All In footage and it showed that what Punk said to Ariel Helwani was the truth, not a single lie, and that what Samoa Joe had said about it being a nothing and no punches thrown being the truth they did a complete 180 on AEW!
They believed the bullshit, they said “well lots of people are saying it so it must be true” and I remember arguing until I was blue in the face that it didn’t pass the sniff test to me, and once they showed the All In footage they knew Tony Khan, Dave Meltzer, Chris Jericho, Young Bucks, Adam Page, Jack Perry etc. were liars and that then immediately made them do a 180 on Brawl Out too, because if they’d lie about Brawl In with video proof, they’d lie about Brawl Out
Too many AEW "fans" refuse to question anything Tony Khan and The Young Bucks say instead of paying attention to their actions and facts. Decreasing attendance, fewer people watching on TV and streams, terrible or no storylines. But those "fans" eat it all up because it's not WWE. We should have 3 great companies right now in WWE, AEW, and TNA. WWE has improved since the 2019 and the pandemic. TNA has vastly improved and become watchable. AEW is the only one that has gotten consistently worse and it's their own doing
When Punk was fired, I gave up AEW officially. It just proved that they weren't a serious company and were so clearly sabotaging their product on purpose. There was no going back for me after that.
We are blessed on this day corny fans
Amen to that! 😂
ConlyFans
Nerd
@ let me enjoy my life and you enjoy yours
Tell that to Jim lol @@The_Average_Dan
Ricky Starks is an easy one: he’s seen as a “CM Punk Guy”
Tony doesnt care about making money, he just wants Uncle Dave’s 5 star ratings
AND a “Cody Guy”.
"If you're more happy with some goof saying you had A 5 star match and the building's ¼ full, we're not in the same business." CM Punk April 1st, 2024
More like he’s an obviously going to NXT guy
@ seriously, that needs to be on a t-shirt and/or some fans need to make signs for the next AEW show
Starks is awful
1.2 million dollar gate that doesn't even come close to paying their talent for a week 😂😂😂
that dont cover renting the place 😅😅
Too bad TK can’t pay them in star ratings
That's Jericho's lunch drinks and hotel damages when Chris is having a slow weekend.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's not even a true 1.2 million gate. Tony could have put 750k on top and then ask what they're up to
Or the arena and production staff
Regardless of what the AEW flag bearers say on social media, AEW is nowhere near where WCW was in the late-90's, and they sure as hell are nowhere near where TNA was when it was on Spike TV. Even with Shit Stain's atrocious storylines, TNA managed to get a million viewers consistently.
Its only a matter of time before TNT has had enough of this and cancels the show all together and they won't have any leverage for a new network since they are averaging like 5-600k viewers a week. Andy Griffith reruns get that. WCW was pulling low to mid 2s in 2000.
Starks was sent home because Edge couldn't handle a basic promo confrontation. For as much criticism as Jericho gets (and rightfully so) Edge has proven he's every bit as much of a massive mark for himself by doing that and then screwing his ankle up on a stupid spot.
That may have a lot to do with it. But after edge got hurt, he could have brought him back. I personally don't like starks and I don't see what the big deal is with him. He's done nothing great in the time I've known about him. That CVV interview is probably the biggest thing he's done
He's been proving it since he was back in Connecticut not putting any younger wrestlers over before leaving for aedubya
It's crazy to believe that Edge got so upset just from Ricky saying, "bug eyes." This is the same guy who beat up another man's dad in his own house. Does going to AEW automatically make people soft?
everyone who left WWE for AEW is a mark for his/herself. They cannot take on the job, so they left for somewhere they think they have value.
AEW is an undead corpse animated by the dark magic of Daddy's money. They'll stay around but this company will never go anywhere
They won't be around in 10 years and if the pace of declines continues, they won't be there in 4-5y.
Well said. As long as TK is running this company, they will stay in the same position they're currently in and will never grow.
@@Rucker1980 “if it wasn’t for AEW, WWE wouldn’t have Cody Rhodes.”
Nah, TNA has those Lich blessings. AEW is gonna need a lot more to stick around.
Collision while Punk was there has been the best wrestling show i've seen since at least 2009. A lot of people are liking the current raws and smackdowns, and I like HHH and WWE, and a lot of the wrestlers in WWE, but these days i find myself only watching the CM Punk and Kevin Owens segments. And most of the time i'll keep up with the Bloodline stuff (i'm a big fan of Roman, Fatu, and Solo) too, and rarely i might also watch some of the other segments, but otherwise i'm not really that interested. I found Collision way better than these current raws and smackdowns. I would be hooked on those episodes from start to finish. Not only did they have CM Punk there every week, who, in addition to just being CM Punk and always being great, had this unreal aura to him after how he came back on that debut episode of Collision and delivered that fire promo, but they had other actual interesting storylines, like the stuff with the Bullet Club (who, especially Jay White, were being built up so good), and Ricky Starks. And it was hella cool when some of those guys interacted with Punk, and there were so many interesting possible directions things could go, in terms of possibe feuds and storylines. And the tag team stuff was actually good too. I wonder why Collision was so good? There was a rumor that Punk was booking it or had a lot of say in the booking, and i haven't watched Collision since they fired Punk, but i heard it sucks now, so it makes sense that that was the case.. Aside from the booking though, the biggest thing that made it great was Punk. Punk is great now on these WWE shows like he's always been, but he was on another level on those Collision shows. He seemed like he was possessed. He had this new style and look, and he had this huge chip on his shoulder. Looking back, he had that same feel and vibe to him that he had in 2013 in WWE (his best year there in my opinion). Or that prime Goldberg had when he came to WWE TV and feuded with The Rock. Or that Hollywood Rock had when he came back and had that run for a couple months before going back to Hollywood, or that Final Boss Rock had/has. Even though Punk wasn't at Collision long enough to have any long feuds or anything, that was still my favorite version of CM Punk ever. AEW should've took that CM Punk and had him beat MJF to unify the belts, or just made his belt an official 2nd world title, and kept what they had on Collision going, and eventually incoporate Punk on Dynamite too, in a feud against Omega (who i love and think would be a great rival for Punk, by the way) and The Elite. The thing with CM Punk now is that he's brought out such good sxhit from Drew Mcyintyre and Seth Rollins. But, and if anyone else was watching Collision too, i bet they'd agree with me, that AEW situation/The Elite brought out even more from Punk! That's how unique, and also big, that situation was. So we could've gotten an all-time great, and very possibly the best, CM Punk run, an exciting wrestling show (Collision) every week for the first time in so long, and an all-time great feud that i think would've been so good that it could've actually made AEW big, and even possibly made wrestling more popular in general. AEW, in my opinion, would've had to start doing way better with their advertising too though, for those last 2 things to have possibly happened. I'm sad that AEW threw all of that potential down the drain... For what? Because Kahn wanted to fire him and make a statement that not hurting people's feelings is really important? What the heck did they do man... And i just want to say here, that Omega is cool, unlike The Bucks (who ran a victory lap around the ring the night Punk got fired) and Kahn. He said that he wanted to make up with Punk the night the beef exploded. He said "if it weren't for a complete other factor, we would have been able to have that talk on the night of Brawl Out", which implied that he tried to fix things. So don't blame Omega for those potentially great losses that wrestling has suffered!
The way they continue to double and triple down on things that nobody cares about is wild. They just continue to do things like the continental classic, Moxley storyline etc. while more and more people tune out
Speak for yourself! I love the continental classics.
@@CuriousGeorgePhotos Then you are part of the problem when it comes to why AEW will never evolve as a serious wrestling company.
@@anthonydeadman Because I enjoy it?! Go touch grass!
Dick the Boozer might be the new best nickname.
I was hoping someone else noticed that... I haven't heard him use it yet
Lol it popped me, pal.
I didn’t think Travis could make Meltzer’s character more repulsive yet here we are. Somebody put a mask on that mug!
Nah, the inside of the mask would be all "THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME, BROTHER!"
I thought it was Joey Diaz at first.
Corny always feeding the streets dropping a 30 pack as I try and wait out my last half hour on the clock 😤
Tony has done F all for his Four Pillars. I gotta say that Dom Mysterio has advanced more so than MJF. It's hopeless for AEW.
The irony is that if you told anyone, including me, three years ago that Dom was a bigger draw then MJF, we'd have had you sent to the funny farm.
@@PAlt-p6yexcept Dom isn't a draw. They see him because they paid to see the show. They didn't pay for the show to see him specifically!
@@JasonGibbs-o1lexactly. Dom isn’t a draw, the audience is there to see WWE the brand.
@@JasonGibbs-o1l not that it means much but Dominik rose to #1 on the ESPN 30 best pro wrestlers under 30 list this year, while MJF was #1 in 2023. NXT has had a bump whenever Dom has been on their programming meanwhile AEW remains flat with MJF being regularly on Dynamite .
@@flashfunk0373yet he gets one of the biggest reactions on the show. You can hear the guy in row 40 pass wind on a AEW show
They forgot to mention none of the ppl who started the company are there anymore. Cody is killing it in WWE while The Bucks and Kenny are hiding out in NJPW because no one wants to watch them anymore. And Tony is still paying them millions of dollars.
Eating Popeyes listening to Jim cornette rant about AEWs downfall is simple bliss
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Weird ad placement, but ok.
Those biscuits absolutely need gravy. Good fries though.
@@pokehybridtrainer had two 6 piece boneless wings with macaroni isn’t have enough for a biscuit 😭
Not to mention it’s cheap on Tuesdays
The only people who are still watching AEW either work for them, are man-childs who yearn for the ECW days, or are people hate-watching it just so they can make content. It's a mess.
So the people that don't watch it and are constantly seething about it are what? Mentally ill?
You forgot the people who watch AEW to get the jokes Corny makes
@@wilcee238I swear to God dude!!! That's literally why I watch hahahhaha
@@wilcee238 Those people are actually the saddest of them all
I know several ECW man-children including myself, we ain't watching AEW 🤨
AEW let go of the wrong guys. Their PPVs are unwatchable in one sitting. Every match gets at least 20 minutes, every match. Vince loved the big guys, most couldn't wrestle. But, they were believable. Tony loves the little guys, and gives them way too much.
I live in Arlington. The buzz AEW has generated since announcing All In Texas is very small, compared to the buzz WWE garnered for both Wrestlemanias that took place here. My favorite part of All In Texas is seeing all the AEW fans say that All In Texas will be a greater show than both Arlington Wrestlemanias, all while not realizing that AT&T Stadium has a higher capacity than Globe Life Field.
Arlen, Texas?
They will move to smaller venue 90 days from the show kicks off
@@HappyCentaur-jm9lm That right there is a sterling example. Think of this. Kevin Von Erich's Sons Marshall and Ross joined with Dusty Rhodes's Son Dustin not long ago to win the Inaugural AEW Six Man Championship in Texas no less. Think of the astonishing Familial Legacies and Texas Pro Wrestling Traditions involved. This ongoing Story writes itself. So where in the Sam 🤬 Hill is the blessed Booking and Publicization for this?!😡🤦♂️🤼♂️B.W.
Same in Brisbane, Australia for grand slam. Nobody has a clue about it here.
@madbrowniac7871 the treatment of the Von Erichs is insane. There was a major movie, MJF was in it, and they paired them with Danhausen, gave them no promos, and dropped them from Dynamite.
You can't convince me Meltzer isn't on either the payroll for PR or he's on creative or both
I mean, he’s already admitted that he and Tony talk about creative, now it may be in an unofficial unmonetised capacity, but he still has an input
The only reason Dave tries so hard to glaze AEW is purely because his only wish has been to see this type of wrestling that he championed as better for a decade a chance at mainstream appeal and everyone decidedly hates it. Nothing beyond that matters, I highly doubt he is actually a part of AEW in any capacity.
@ the thing is, I read a comment on another video where someone said that he didn’t even champion this particular style so much until the Young Bucks did the whole “Meltzer Driver” schtick and started to deliberately cater to him, then all of a sudden he was all over it. Now I don’t know if that’s true or not, im not a WON subscriber and don’t pay his opinions any heed, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s true because he’s a fucking egomaniac
"Unless you glue yourself to an indie message board, you don't hear about it" that sums up everything perfectly.
Hobbs really needs The Hurt Syndicate.
It's weird how all these people who get over suddenly have their legs cut out from under them. Almost like there's some EVPs that don't like it
Pushing wheeler useless has been a disgrace
On par with pushing Daniel Garcia.
Pushing Wheeler Useless Pockets Jack Perry and Daniel Garcia has been a joke
Pushing Wheeler Useless is the equivalent of WWE if they pushed Colin Delaney in some group like Evolution or Legacy
They may be pushing Wheeler more since he looks like Finn Balor with the beard and hairstyle.
That's not English.
I wonder how much sadder AEW will get before Tony's papa throws in the towel.
if TNA is still has a pulse, its no way AEW will die... only Tony can end AEW and i doubt he'll do that, its not going anywhere unfortunately
@@DynastyIcon TNA doesnt pay out anywhere near as much as AEW so the 2 arent comparable
That's the news I'm waiting on
Seeing how Tony started the company up with his inheritance, I'd guess that the moment TK's Richie Rich Trust Fund dries up, and Papa Khan (let me rock you, let me rock you Papa Khan) is asked to toss in non-inheritance money pretty please might be the tipping point.
He won't. That's the only day he can keep Tony away
To add to the NDA Cody thing, let's also not forget Punk famously said he didn't sign a NDA for anything he did wrong which begs the question what the hell did the Elite do that night of the brawl out.
Seeing as they're marks, I guarantee you they double super kicked the door to Punk's locker room. Probably had to do it twice to open it, which would explain how Larry got his teeth knocked out before winding up in Kenny's arms, and would explain the retaliatory force that was Ace chucking a chair at whichever twink he did. 😂
@TheManOfTheHourEveryHour lol this is pretty much what I feel probably happened.
The thing that an incredible amount of IWC marks that were dog-piling on Punk after Brawl-Out just loved to leave out was the fact that the Bucks and Omega are EVP’s and even the act of storming into the talents locker room, looking for a fight could be something that could legally come back to bite them in the a**. Even that would be worthy of an NDA for Tony I imagine. I guess we’ll never truly know what went down though. Maybe one day Punk will be able to, but it’d still just be his version (although his version of All-In was proven to be true, by Tony himself).
@@TheManOfTheHourEveryHourOmg they for sure slapped the leg as they did it too 😂
I imagine they started the fight and he finished it.
The state of AEW?
Their viewership equals half the population of Rhode Island...
"The reason AEW isnt doing so well is because Rhode Island is holding them down " - Uncle Dave
The most interesting story AEW has done in the last year was the Jeff Jarrett/Owen Hart thing, and they blew it. Jarett should have got wins but more and more by the skin of his teeth, even resorting to heel tactics and cheating against his wishes, but because he was desperate to prove he could hang and honor his friend.
AEW died the day TK went on air and said he feared for his life. I still can't believe a guy who grew up idolising ECW and the attitude era thought that was a good idea. The stank of lame still looms from that day. I still think AEW could be saved but it would need some drastic changes and it would take a long long loooong time to change people's minds. I wish we were in that alternate universe where Corny didn't get booted from NWA commentary and they built up real rasslers there
I wish uncle Dave and Tony would just listen to Jim just once...
Or at least the fans who aren't sickos like Phil Marks.
But according to Uncle Dave its people like Conry, BLast and US who “need to learn” that AEW is (the way he writes & talks about it) without Sin
“It’s great” *proceeds to spam the bell*🛎️🛎️🛎️
thanks guys!
The same time that they were dropping starks off the card for going to the royal rumble; they were crying about Tribalism and people not loving all companies.
There's a legitimate stat by steam that says only 14 people world wide play AEW Fight Never at a time
He literally dropped a program with The Elite because he was afraid people would think he wasn’t booking the show…
That’s an astronomical level of insecure and tone deaf. Idk how anyone does anything except make fun of somebody that precious.
If he didn’t drop the program, people would still have things to complain about no matter what he does.
Only Marko Stunt can save AEW 😂
Colt Cobana
I’ll bring back Naka-Naka-Nakazawa 😂
@@christophercamacho8074 or Kenny Olivier and RIHOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Dropping 5 star loads all over RIHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Hologram got injured and Wardlow is the one that disappeared!😂
9:32 Jeez that was as accurate as the sunrise, he really doesnt want to be the villain in the shoot interviews
I never tire of that picture of Dave Meltzer!🤣
AEW is just an expensive daycare to keep Tony away from his dad and the Jaguars, that's it. Literally "go play with your toys and leave me alone"
AEW, the only company that can’t grow during a wrestling boom
We’re not in a wrestling boom if we’re being completely honest lmao. TikTok clip views don’t count.
@ My bad, I meant the “WWE, TNA, and every Indy show I go to” boom.
Tony is the boss trying to be everyone's best friend, in the work force, that always backfires
Tony Khan doesn't want everyone to realize what we already know.. he is a socially awkward, messageboard nepo baby living out his childhood fantasy of be a wrestling promoter with his daddy's money. He's so childish he would rather have people like Ricky Starks and Rey Fenix sit at home and pay them to do nothing rather than let them go and become an actual star with WWE. Judging by his terrible booking of the women's division too, it wouldn't surprise me if he was also an incel.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but never in history of wrestling we had so much excuses.
Even ECW with Heyman and the most loyal and hardcore fans realized when things went sour...
Tony Khan on The State of AEW: I swear I didn't sleep that night, or any night, or during day times either. I have always been up all night. 😫😫😖😖😩😩😵😵
Speaking of territory wars I would love deep dives on various territorial wars
Absolutely love the Coked out Tony Khan, and his Secretary of Defence, the “hip” Dave Meltzer in the cover art loll
Last nailed it. WWE’s goal of targeting college athletes and the indies is to shut out AEW. Cut off the talent supply.
Seems like WWE is targeting a specific type of indie promotion, ones either with links to their current wrestlers/trainers or tries to take their shows seriously instead of having 300 lbs truck drivers trying to do flips to each other and failing miserably(those type of shows are probably going to be AEWs only supply for talent in the future more than likely if this iD thing works out)
Not only shut out AEW, but the indie scene in general. Think of it like Vince basically killing the territories in the 80s.
You can tell shit’s really going off the rails because there are more comments here from AEW marks than I’ve seen on a video of Jim and Brian’s in a very long time.
They did that when AEW started but then the plandemic happened, and they had to trim the fat. Now they are in a much better position professionally and have a better reputation with the indies than before, are able to rinse that doofus pissant company to death and leave them with scraps and retirees 😂
I'd like to hear Jim talk about all these AI pictures with him and people like Russo, Kenny, the Bucks, etc etc.. hugging, making hearts, etc together. It is hilarious.
I saw those pictures of Jim and Russo and I knew it was ai because it were real, then hell would have frozen to the point it would never thaw again.
Firing punk instead of jungle boy is a mistake aew will NEVER recover from
Exactly what Punk hasn't done to get himself fired? The dude's a drama queen. Always been that way. Explain to me how a 50 year old fragile old man got into 3 major scandals in 2 years?
"They don't get people over in AEW, they get them under."
Insane stories lately. Uncle Dave is on the same lines TK is. Delusional.
That company died when Cody left, then it got life support when punk came and then after he left they’ve been 6 feet under since
Your chronology is all messed up. Cody and Punk were there at the same time.
@@TheCho-k4mfor like 5 months. Cody left first and then punk. My timeline isn’t wrong. I don’t think aew would survive if Cody left without punk being there
@@PlayStopRewindFilms no, you said Cody left and then Punk came. Check your post. That is not how it happened, Cody and Punk were both on the roster at the same time for quite a while. There was no noticeable drop in ratings when Cody left but it has been catastrophic since Punk was fired.
We need an updated AEW Roster review 🙏
Definitely 💯
AEW being the product it is and has been for years, was the best case scenario for Jim because it's provided a lot of actual comedy on both of his podcasts.
I used to think that Cody leaving hurt but was survivable and that the Punk saga is what sent AEW plummeting.
My stance has slightly changed in hindsight.
I do agree now that losing Cody was more of the first domino of AEW’s implosion than anyone realizes at the time. Because when Cody left they lost his behind the scenes leadership and sense of direction. They lost that element of ambition and the idea that they wanted to grow as a company as well. Losing Cody was a death blow in a lot of ways but MAINLY because when Cody left that REALLY only left Tony Khan to fully take the steering wheel of AEW and that has proven to be the most fatal thing that has happened for this company. The Punk saga was simply snapping everyone out of the honeymoon phase of the company and letting everyone realize the reality of it is that the company had tremendous leadership/direction and future planning/proofing issues (stemming from horrid booking) issues that so many fans wrote off at the beginning as “problems they would grow out of” but never did. If shit didn’t hit the fan with Punk and cause this disillusionment it would’ve happened with someone else. If there’s one thing I think we can agree on is that where AEW is at now was inevitable with Tony steering the ship. Cody leaving was a crippling blow but the Punk saga let everyone see how much that loss really hurt in some ways. It should have been a huge wake up call but unfortunately for them I don’t know that this is a lesson that they’ve learned from or will even survive long enough to cultivate by the time Tony does realize (but again he won’t).
good story bro
Not gonna lie...those obnoxious AEW defenders from the past are almost nonexistent on social media now. Either they got quiet or nooooooobody watches that garbage anymore.
That ad read sounded like something from Johnny Carson's Tea Team Theater bits from back in the day when the Tonight Show as actually funny.
Hey tony how is ricochet working out for you? Because apparently aew is nothing without him.
Genuinely who tf is reading the observer
18:36 Dick The Boozer 😂😂😂
that select quote live commercial has me in tears
Corny : Hobbs has everything
Hobbs can't cut a promo to save his life 😂
Tony should start every answer with "What a good looking question!!"
Eating pizza while listening to this
I'm takin a 💩
Bon Appetit
I'm chomping on Chicken!
only persons diet we care about around here is Jim's... Jim Cornette eating a pizza is one thing, some random guy? nobody cares
I want someone to do the math. While we can't get how much money they've made due to being a private company, we can get a guess in other ways:
1. How many tickets they sold, how much was the price for the tickets at each show this includes PPV and live shows.
2. Then include renting these arenas, which i can guess isn't around a four digit number but rather a five or six. Also include whatever percentage the owners of the buildings get from these shows.
3. Include also travel expenses from airfair, rental cars, hotels, and security as well along with staff (yes WBD pay for producing the shows but they're not paying for talent, their travel expenses, etc.)
4. Include also merchandise sales which is probably not a lot but lets say for the sake of argument they managed to sell half of their products (despite not seeing people wear the stuff on TV)
5. Also dont forget the equipment for all their crazy gimmick matches, licensing music, and fixing any broken ring stuff.
6. And finally, guess the money the talent are getting per year.
Calculate it all and we might get an idea of how much they made and how the losses will be.
That's all been done already by wrestlenomics. Brian and Jim have already talked about all the estimates. The company hasn't made a dime in their existence because of how much Tony spends on it.
One of the most offensive things on the the Dave/AEW front is that AEW can almost be viewed like early-mid TNA except it’s never received the same harsh criticisms or honest reporting from Meltzer. They could be relentless on TNA’s failures, backstage politics, poor booking, bad management, etc. yet when covering AEW now that honesty is gone and it’s all through rose colored glasses.
Dave says the tv ratings go down cause less people are watching Tv shows on regular TV each year. Let’s say for argument sakes that’s true, then explain the live attendances going down? If someone enjoys the product and it’s in town, there’s a decent chance they’ll go but they aren’t
Aftermath of the pandemic, people don't like going out anymore! 😂🤣😂
The tv argument is b.s too. Because if any show is unmissable they’d watch it
AEW died when Tony chose to hire Jeff Hardy instead of giving more money to Cody. Full stop.
WHAT?! Really?!
@@wilcee238 Yea, really. Jeff Hardy came in the moment Cody left. Now what would have happened if Tony had paid what Cody's worth instead and ignore the useless junkie? I can only guess, but pretty sure the entire Elite vs Punk confrontation would have been handled completely different.
What the f*ck kind of logic is that?
@@PrecursorOrb1 aw, an emo Jeff Hardy fanboy. You lot are so hilarious. And sad at the same time.
@@staalhard666 ah yes the fanboy retort. Calling me a fanboy while you talk about him even though the video isn’t mentioning him?
I don't really wish bad on the company but it's so hard to sympathize with its pompous fans. Six years ago they said AEW was going to be superior to WWE in every conceivable way. If you weren't down with that, they had 2 words for you.
How's that workin out?
Tony is not here to run a business. He is here to make friends, and there is nothing wrong with making friends.
Buying friends is not a good thing, though
A friend in need is a friend indeed
Sums of A LOT of independent wrestling "promoters" across the country. They all just want friends and clout.
Biggest barrier to casual viewers to AEW is the AEW fanbase
Yeah cuz Cornette and his fanbase are the most peaceful human beings ever right? Your entire existence is based on trashing AEW and Meltzer. This fragile weak grandpa is nothing without AEW. Nothing.
@@muryt12wow you seems angry
Brian is absolutely delusional on Wardlow. He was never going to be over after the MJF payoff with the AEW audience, no matter how you book him. The powerbomb gimmick was literally the only thing people were reacting to, and it was in the same ironic way they yell MEAT when big dudes hit each other.
You could have put Luther or Ralphus in that role and the potential ceiling would be about the same.
Agreed, he just hasn't got it. He's lower mid card at best.
With the right booking and the right presentation, Wardlow could have been somebody. They could have attempted a Goldberg-style project with him - or at least early Braun Strowman, before WWE bungled him and made him utterly ridiculous.
I'm not saying it would have worked, necessarily. But it's far too late to even try that now.
Uncle Dave says everyhing is fine. If you can't believe him, then who can you trust in this world? 😂
He’s like that one joke by Principal Skinner from the Simpsons: “I am so out of touch with Today’s youth? No. Its the children who are wrong”
IN CORNETTE WE TRUST!
Ah yes, the guy that every promotion doesn't give 2 shits about lmao
@@scentofslaughter8854aew cries about him a lot. He is making money from aew while aew is losing money
@@vb2806 Never seen anyone in aew cry about cornette, in fact i've seen people mention him and use his material. Just so you know aew was profitable :)
@@scentofslaughter8854it was never profitable. Shitty product and shitty games with overpaid "talent"
@@scentofslaughter8854 You mean the guy your personal lord and saviour Tony Khan spent a week on the phone with in 2018, to get him to work for AEW from day one?
That's the problem with being in a cult. Facts are not your friend. Because reality doesn't care about your delusions and self-indoctrination. You're white-knighting for a nepo baby's silly money-incinerating hobby as if it's your religion.
If AEW is going to be profitable in 2025, it's because David Zaslav is the most ridiculous idiot who ever ran an entertainment company - and WBD is more dysfunctional than Disney, Time Warner, WCW, TNA, AEW, and UWF combined.
Gonna love hearing the (possible) review to Jericho attacking Effy, after Starks was pulled from the GCW event. 😂
Aew releasing punks video and making him completely right is the beginning of the end.
See how happy punk looks at nxt when he can teach people who want to learn
Update.. it was Ricky Starks getting shafted all along.
The best way to make a million dollar in wrestling is: to start with 2 million dollar.
Forgot where i got this factoid from but it's floating in my head.... there's on average 10-11 people at any given time playing fight forever... either on steam or ps4 i dont recall
Dutch Mantell recently spoke on that 😂
AEW is quite possibly the worst wrestling promotion of all time
It's a shame. Really wanted AEW to be more than this.
Dick the Boozer may be beating out Road Warrior Buck for me 😂
Ricochet vs Osprey is turning into the "Again with the Klingons" bit from the Simpsons.
Yeah instead they should do 47 Escobar vs Andrade matches.
Am I the only person that is surprised AEW hasnt signed "Supperhumman" the obviously intellectually challenged guy that jumps on to random objects in his backyard?
Don’t give Tony any ideas!
@paulmolive1821 him vs Darby in best of 7 Winner gets 0 deductible health insurance for life. Plus a signed 5×7 glossy of Luigi Mangione
15:04 are you sure you’re just not describing XPW at this point?
AEW doesn't have issues...it has subscriptions.
You make me feel so welcomed,you are one of the most genuine people I know Jim Cornette
AEW is nothing but ECW with a bigger budget and WCW 99-00 booking
With fewer stars than either company
At least Paul Heyman could book his talents strengths and get every talent he showcased over.
Dave’s sweatshirt holy shit lmfao
Until TK realizes that he cant book and that Dave Meltzer is a bigger detriment to AEW than anything else AEW will just be a well funded indie
Having Jon Moxley and Orange Cassidy as top guys is exactly why they're shit
Oh yeah,16000 Samoans kissing each other every single week or a bleached haired neck tattooed midcarder screaming "woahh" to his 2 year old fans is exactly how to be a "top guy"!