Janko, you are aware that You DON"T have to push your car all the time 100% ? Do they teach You this in Sweden? You have for example variable throttle position, not only ON or OFF. You know that, correct? Asking because I don't understand what is wrong having good audio system in a car. You can use it, You don't have to. It is not like You are Lewis Hamilton fighting for glory and World Championship in this car. It is really possible to connect both worlds and not calling people who can do it of fools...
I believe Jerry Seinfeld was on the same page as you in his comment from my video when I explained why I turned down an allocation. His comment: "I own a 917 and drive it slowly around the track because I am not a fool" something like that. Link to the video below: th-cam.com/video/snq7bnfbiXc/w-d-xo.html But you need to understand that the "old" GT3, 991.2 was fun to drive in a slow speed. The 992 GT3 IS NOT. You need to push it to feel the connection to the road. When it comes to the Bose, the noise level in a GT3 is, as it should, laud, and as a consequence, you don't get any use for the system, not to mention the extra weight. There are many Porsche religions out there, and mine is not perfect. But adding deviated stitching and BOSE in a GT3 regardless if it is a Touring or a Club Sport, for me, that is like cursing in church. If you are not already, please consider subscribing.
I was a bit confused with your conclusion. so.... this is a fast car. its for the track. but its not for the road? and its too fast? but its the best car? but not for everyone? I guess I was hoping for a bit more detail around what makes it special, fast, or who its for. Either way, thanks for the video
I understand your reasoning now for passing up the opportunity of a GT3 allocation (in a previous video you made). I have a manual 992 GTS in shark blue with gloss black Aerokit and CCBs (a GT3 lookalike..) coming in February and I think it's all the 911 I'll ever want or need. In other words, a sports car for the road. Best real world GT3 review I've seen to date!
This was a good read, thx. I will play with the configurator and see what it looks like. Might even cancel my GT3 order since Porsche are messing me around, save some $$.
We don't need more videos of youtbers buying new cars every week, we need your truly and honest reviews. For me the Blue Postnord 718, still one of my favorites 😊
Stop whining about how capable the car is and it’s only for race car drivers it’s a car that most of us will not even get to see and if I had the chance to own one I would even though it is above my ability it’s an iconic car that we may never see built again and I would love to have one!
I have heard poeple say they wouldn't want to be perfect(a fairly close 992.1 GT3), because they enjoy imperfection and struggle(992 Carrara S), when they haven't experienced it yet(Janko Lind's tunnel vision has deprived him of happiness and fulfillment, even when HE says, HE is THE connoisseur of driving dynamics(in video and in the comments). Reminds me of part of the Corvette community that defends transverse leafsprings as great, with no need for improvement, despite me explaining what crosstalk is. Yes justifying McPherson struts over double wishbones is not to the same dregree as justifying transverse leafsprings over coilovers, as both are done for cost cuting, but the mindset is the same). Having an intense guilt complex that you have to be at least a 9 out 10 driver to be allowed to enjoy a 9 out of 10 car, is not mentally healthy, as long as you can afford to buy a 992.1 GT3 and you will learn to be a good driver or already are, that's good enough. It's not the same a ruining a reproductive partner's offspring because of your lesser genetics and or parenting skills, it's not taking advantage of someone financially. If only 1 out 100 are as good of a driver as Janko Lind then he is not depriving a 9+ out 10 driver from owning a 9 out of 10 car and with Janko Lind's attitude anything more than a Toyota GR-86 would not see the light of day because it wouldn't be financially worth investing money in by manufacturers(if only 1 out of 1000 992.1 GT3 owners were eligible to own one, using his "Top Level" Racecar Drivers that he named as worthy owners analogy, the drivers who could get 99.9% out of a 992.1 GT3) and cause for a greatly reduced factory support for racing.
Thanks Daniel, I love your comment, I try to express MY thoughts, not the massess. I don't believe everyone agree to everything I say, I would like people to think and search for there own opinions and stay true to yourself.
Janko, You are correct that Porsche have always described the GT3 as a track car which you can also drive on the road. As you say, for most people a GTS or Turbo is a much better choice for everyday use, weekend fun drives and as a GT to drive to the Mediterranean. The Turbo, of course, has far more BHP than the GT3 but is much easier to drive well. What you have forgotten is that there are three distinct GT3 models. The Touring, the Clubsport and the Komfort. All can be optioned as Leicht models. The car you drove unfortunately was a Clubsport with contradictory heavy luxury options (full leather, extra stitching, Bose etc) and I'm sure that your roadtest views would be very different had you driven a car to the option specification I chose which changes the car's character from a rich mans vanity purchase into more of an everyday and GT car. My option specification is solid white, half black leather, no option stitching, no Bose, no sport Chrono, no 918 seats, no PDK, no PCCB etc. This totally changes the character of the car and reveals a softer, more accessible and relaxed personality which allows the driver to enjoy the vastly improved steering, cornering and braking compared to the 991 GT3s. Manufacturers understandably offer press cars to create an impact and most younger drivers these days seem to only want to use launch control in a straight line as they have never leant to progressively control 500BHP in the corners as we did. My first 911 had 165BHP, my second 195BHP and incrementally over 25 X 911s and more than 40yrs I arrived at my 25th and last 911. I regret very much that the younger generation will not have the fun, our generation has had, as we learnt to drive properly on less congested roads...
We all have our own Porsche religion, ordering a 993 GT3 without buckets is very far from my religion. In my religion, you should have bout a 992 Turbo or a GTS. Consider them when you change your car next time. If you are not already, please consider subscribing.
Janko Lind H Jankovic, No! We will have to agree to disagree!! Why would anyone (other than millionaires) buy a car that was unsuitable to drive every day? Surely as enthusiasts we want to drive our car everyday? The standard GT3, without a heavy half cage, but with the standard seats is lighter than the Clubsport, has more usable luggage space behind the front seats, the seats are far more comfortable and they recline to sleep on long road trips. Porsche is very clever with the options they offer to turn the standard car into either a Clubsport or a Touring, which really ought to be re-named a Stealth. The standard model is misunderstood by most people sadly. I agree that the Turbo S, Turbo and GTS are easier cars to drive for the majority but neither have the naturally aspirated engine, 6 speed gearbox and 385kg of down force. If you take up your GT3 allocation offer, you will find the standard car a very rewarding everyday driver on country roads and autobahns.But whichever GT3 model is chosen, whichever options, a GT challenges and rewards the driver unlike any other car in the range!
You make any Porsche look even cooler xD I remember watching your 718 Spyder videos, no one really knows how to take the perfect angle for that car, but you did!
Well I am confused on your review. Yes the GT3 is a track car, but it is also a Grand Tourer (GT!) first, so some luxuries are worth having. I plan to use it as my daily and go to the track 4-8 times per year. So in my opinion, a Manual is better (PDK is good for the track) for my country driving ( live in the twisty hills, so for me it is ideal). And I like to listen to some good driving music (plus engine). So each to their own but I think you were being a bit harsh. Oh, and I do have a turbo for sundays and GT4 for fun. PS, many of the comments you make would be suited to a GT3RS, and not the GT3. Imo
@@JB_lifestyle_cars ???? Hello do your homework. Group GT3, known technically as Cup Grand Touring Cars and commonly referred to as simply GT3, is a set of regulations maintained by the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA) for grand tourer racing cars designed for use in various auto racing series throughout the world.
My favourite GT3 review on youtube! Based on your concept of the GT3 and how racecar-like it needs to be in terms of luxuries, I cannot imagine your unhappiness with the GT3 touring LOL
The biggest problem I have with the GT3 Touring is the name. It is NOT a touring. It is sprung out from the Porsche 911 R, where Porsche engineers focused on getting rid of as many things in the car. Less is much more in a GT3. Thanks for your comment, and I appreciate your subscription.
A nice video, Janko, as always. Thank you. But you are taking things too seriously and over complicate the ownership experience. It is just a nice and not very expensive car which you can tailor a bit to your personal taste, nothing more, nothing else. It is not a EUR2-3mm hypercar or some classic collectible. It is not a GT3 Cup car which comes at EUR250k without deviated stitching, but with a racing team to take care of. It is NOT a track car. Caterham is. Ariel is. GT3 Cup is. Not this one. Enjoy it, drive it, track it if you like, feel free and happy driving it to the restaurant, date, business meeting, across Europe or to a local coffee shop. That’s the true ownership experience, Bose or no Bose.
Yes, that's the experience Porsche is looking for but does not deliver in the 992 GT3. I agree on the GT3 cup... If you are not already, please consider subscribing.
Another great review Janko. I sold my PDK 991.2 GT3 for a manual 718 Spyder and much prefer the Spyder as a fun road car. All your observations about the 992 GT3 were my feelings about the 991 but even more so!
@@mrconde9526 Yep, the gearing is a bit long but in practice it’s not really a problem given the torque on tap. Owners of GT4s and Spyders are all pretty much OK with the gearing and it’s only reviewers who grumble about it. A much bigger issue is the way the exhaust flaps operate so fitting a valve controller (or disabling the valves altogether) is a must.
Ohhh that is a tuff one. Today (changes a lot ;-) ) I feel in no particular order: Manual 718 Cayman T with Öhlins Road and Track, Manual 991.2 GT3, Manual 991.2 Carrera If you are not already, please consider subscribing.
Another well reasoned review Janko. As an owner of a few 911's, I agree with your points. I can drive my 87 Carrera at 100% on the roads safely, no problem, my 98 993 probably knocks me back to 80% - but my 2018 GT3 Touring is another universe. I am guessing maybe I can safely reach 50-60% of it's capabilities? As you said, it is also an unbelievable machine that encourages you to push harder and harder - Scary! The GT3 has become an RS - track only.
Fantastic experience janko ! Why did the gt3 only have 1 blue seatbelt and the other black ? Its a shame most get to experience these cars but with the gt4rs becoming non ltd maybe their is hope 😊
Your reviews always are sensible Janko. This might as well be a race car, just with an option to drive on the street. Driving this car on the street & having fun, just means say goodbye to having a driver's license. What's the rationale then for a GT3 touring?
I completely agree with you but the car is so beautiful. The fact you noticed the tremendous handling from the double wishbone suspension how do you feel when you back to your 992. Thanks wonderful job. PS can the touring version of the GT3 be compared to the 991.1 R Ciao
No, I don't think you could compare the 99.1 R with the touring. 992 Carrera S with Öhlins Road and Track is much more fun on the B-road in comparison to the 992 GT3.
always entertaining and interesting perspective Janko...love the GT3 for the purity of what it represents-Most Type A personalities (at least this guy) are generally drawn to the most badass engineered product/experience available. I don't need one, but I sure want one so bless Andreas and the GT division for always raising the bar. However, I likely will order the GTS instead due to how I intend to use the car. We are all different so thank you Porsche for all the great products to choose from for all us petrolheads.
Great vid Janko! Love the views. So good to see someone driving the PDK using the gear stick pushing forward for down shifts and pulling back for up. Proper race car like. Surely it is the most desirable 911 yet?? Mind I love a 991.1 Targa. I love a 991R.
Brilliant and amusing. I get what you mean about the cars abilities versus the average driver and road requirements for fun. I found this to be the case with the last version too….but who would not want one!
If I was driving more regularly on track days, I wouldn't turned down my allocation. Not sure if you have Sean this video. th-cam.com/video/snq7bnfbiXc/w-d-xo.html
Great vid and love your body pump double wishbone (you could also do a gt3 work out video for us poor sods not lucky enough to drive one). the 992 gt3 has upped the game a lot and uk 2nd hand prices are shocking. The manual hack looked like fun, think I'd choose it.
Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres would have less grip, a softer ride, less flat cornering, creating a slower, less serious, driving experience(even more so with a manual transmission). This wouldn't make a 992.1 GT3 Touring into a 992.1 Carrara S but might be worth trying if Touring is your thing. Also one more step would be to get aftermarket 20x9 and 20x11.5 wheels with 245/40r20 and 305/35r20 Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres and as a added bonus 5mm more front ground clearance(traction control still works with a 10mm diameter increase for the front tyres while the rear tyre diameter goes down 1mm).
Frankly, I think there is such a nice niche available for the GT3 touring, but porsche made the mistake of not softening it, adding noise insulation and back seats on that version of the car. IMO a GT3 touring with the same noise levels, lack of luxury, and lack of back seats as the regular GT3 doesnt make any sense at all
My preferred car is the 991.2 Touring, if you do not have a clear track focus. Perfect look, more subtle and still this amazing motor… If you have a track focus the 992 GT3 is the better car.
@@JankoLind I see your point, but I think the 992 Touring is also a great car for daily use. It is simply the only way to drive a very emotional sportscar, that is not super showy. It is so much more emotional than a 992 S, that I understand everyone who prefers a GT3 Touring. I have driven both and it is a completely different world. Yet, I definitely prefer the look of the 991.2 Touring. More classic 911 lines, better designed front spoiler and rear diffuser. And pretty low production numbers…
Extremely critical and sensational review as always! My CXX options are more about elimination for perfection than personalization. It's interesting to see how you describe which parts of the car were designed by Mr. Preuninger's team vs those from the marketing department and how they juxtapose with each other...It's a VW formula to keep the Porsche afloat and have a budget to keep Mr. Preuninger around. By the way, we could be more gentle and warm to those comfort sport seat with surround sound system buyers - Think about the 911R....It's the same reason I keep saluting to Cayene Turbo GT buyers so we can purchase the 718 spyder and GT3 at such a good price!
You said it is a faster car, and yes it is in a track with better cornering, bit in straight line it is slower than previous version due to the aero, so in the street it will be mostly slow than 991.2 🤷🏻
I can totally get what you're saying about the cars ability and the average driver, but who would not want to get their arse in the seat of one and experience what Porsche motorsport can do? I understand too the Bose stereo gripe, high noise levels in the car renders paying the extra for it pointless. Great video as always, I really enjoyed the facial expressions you were pulling when pushing on, it was visible you were excited and scared at the same time. Thanks Janko.
Thanks, Roger, not sure I'm an expert Roger. We all have our own religions and there is nothing right or wrong. I drive too fast in a 992 GT3 and under 150 km/h it is a boring car, and I believe you know what I'm talking about since you are one lucky owner. But on the track OMG 😳
Great review! The performance of some of these "road cars" are so high, there is very little chance to use much of this performance on the road :/. It is not just the legal limits, it is the design of the roads, the safety of the driver, other road users, and pedestrians. Would like a 911 with that GT3 sound but half the speed!
Maybe you don't have highways in Sweden. In USA we have speed limits and highways. On highways, especially on long journeys, a radio can be nice. Why not make it Bose if you can afford it?
It is not a question of money; first, the car is too loud, almost all GT3 drivers use noise-cancelling headset when they drive, and secondly, it weighs too much. If you are not already, please consider subscribing.
No, it does not, the speed dose. A mediocre driver will be MUCH faster in the GT3 regardless of knowledge. To connect with the car you need to stay above 150 km/h and I'm driving on public roads wish makes the car useless. If you are not already, please consider subscribing.
Janko. I always wait until I see your video popping up. You are the best, most brilliant, most passionate car reviewer and car guy. I love your videos.
I almost shot milk out of my nose laughing with the driving reaction and speechlessness! 🤣🤣 how can you literally cream your pants driving this car and not buy it? I dont get it. Just get a manual and take the edge off of the speed
The problem is, P Life, you need to drive the car fast to have fun... in low speeds it's boring. Milk? If you are not already, please consider subscribing.
I want one, but not bad enough to trade in my perfect spec manual Carrera T + $70k. I could never exploit half of that car's capabilities, but the want is strong.
My understanding is all these 992 variants have the engine sound piped in via the speakers and hence synthetic, but still nice cleverly supplemented by induction noise, which I think is real,, and that’s what made the difference.. The slightly firmer ride and nervous front end won’t appeal to many drivers because as a road car which it is… principally Porsche might have over stepped the mark for many GT3 owners. That’s what the RS was for. Time will tell when the hype dies down, social media hypes so many things today.. look at the GR Yaris totally over sold. … that’s not saying either are bad cars just over cooked.
Nice video Janko. However, I disagree with several of your points. The 991 GT3's (as per your arguments) seem to be a better "normal guy" car and therefore their values will undoubtedly go up. Many modern cars have proven that "faster, sharper, "better"" does not always add up to more fun. The other point you make on the "deviated stitching, Bose system, etc" I believe are also invalid. One of the best features of a 911 (especially the GT3) is that you can take it to the track (awesome weapon) and later on that night, take your girl to dinner in a nice ride. This duality is exactly what makes these cars so special. Still, a good video, but be more tolerant of the people who use these vehicles for ALL what they were intended to achieve.
only one that will really go up in value is the LAST NA GT3. This actually may be it. They have been claiming such since the beginning of 991. Not as pretty as the 991
Hi Michal, happy to that I could change your knowledge bank. By the way, BIG thanks for your subscription. Please let your friends know about my channel.
Absolute agreement on the PDK. You will never be able to come close to the potential this car offers. If you love the experience of the manual, a 997.2 gt3 is more than adequate.
I get your stance on the GT3 Touring. I feel like the GT3 Touring is a good car in its own right, but it should not have the "GT3" name. The Carrera GTS seems like a pointless car to me because it is not much different than a Carrera S. If I was running things at Porsche I would get rid of the current Carrera GTS, and then just name the GT3 Touring as the Carrera GTS. That way people can get the engine and performance of the GT3 while having the comforts of a Carrera
At 2.51, "I don't know if you're horny or just need to take a pee." Huh, did I hear right? This channel has always appealed to me for being subversive compared to the standard Porsche TH-camrs. But this seems even more so. Go get 'em Janko!
its a beautiful model thats for sure. With the super limited release you can be sure 95% of thr people who get one will not be taking it to the track. they will be taking it to get their lattes ...... But its like a rolex Vs a swatch.... both tell the time.... why spend 50k over $50.. because .... they can ! ! and yeps..... lucky them ! it is the NEW GT3 !!!
Summary: If you are a collector or like to watch the car dust in your garage, this is the car for you. If you always need have newest greatest, this is the car for you. If you actually want to push the limit to get the enjoyment, this is not a car for you. :P
You don’t give average reviews, I’ll give you that much. :) And you do caveat your strong opinions as such, before you give them. But do you review a wide enough sample of cars to be able to declare the 992 gt3 the best sports car in the world? Isn’t it a race car, anyway? :)
Not a good review. I think values of 991.2 gt3 prices seem to be holding up pretty well, particularly as you can’t get a 992 gt3 and there is £100 k difference between used values. I agree the pdk is probably the way to go, but the argument of not having air conditioning or Bose to save weight when it’s used on the road for fun and engagement not completion lap times is ridiculous.
Shitting on people based on subjective opinion is a risky move, I understand it is your opinion, but what value do you bring to the table expressing it? I will understand if you were trying to make an impact by expressing your opinion, but non is to be made by poking fun of people specing a car to express themselves and then shitting on their form of expression. Makes absolutely no sense, then you apologize for offending people? Stick to your gun and do not apologize or don't say anything at all.
Janko, you are aware that You DON"T have to push your car all the time 100% ? Do they teach You this in Sweden? You have for example variable throttle position, not only ON or OFF. You know that, correct?
Asking because I don't understand what is wrong having good audio system in a car. You can use it, You don't have to.
It is not like You are Lewis Hamilton fighting for glory and World Championship in this car. It is really possible to connect both worlds and not calling people who can do it of fools...
I believe Jerry Seinfeld was on the same page as you in his comment from my video when I explained why I turned down an allocation. His comment: "I own a 917 and drive it slowly around the track because I am not a fool" something like that. Link to the video below:
th-cam.com/video/snq7bnfbiXc/w-d-xo.html
But you need to understand that the "old" GT3, 991.2 was fun to drive in a slow speed. The 992 GT3 IS NOT. You need to push it to feel the connection to the road.
When it comes to the Bose, the noise level in a GT3 is, as it should, laud, and as a consequence, you don't get any use for the system, not to mention the extra weight.
There are many Porsche religions out there, and mine is not perfect. But adding deviated stitching and BOSE in a GT3 regardless if it is a Touring or a Club Sport, for me, that is like cursing in church.
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I was a bit confused with your conclusion. so.... this is a fast car. its for the track. but its not for the road? and its too fast? but its the best car? but not for everyone? I guess I was hoping for a bit more detail around what makes it special, fast, or who its for. Either way, thanks for the video
So simply put, if you’re going to be driving around town, get another 911 model.
I understand your reasoning now for passing up the opportunity of a GT3 allocation (in a previous video you made). I have a manual 992 GTS in shark blue with gloss black Aerokit and CCBs (a GT3 lookalike..) coming in February and I think it's all the 911 I'll ever want or need. In other words, a sports car for the road. Best real world GT3 review I've seen to date!
This was a good read, thx. I will play with the configurator and see what it looks like. Might even cancel my GT3 order since Porsche are messing me around, save some $$.
We all need your review from the new GT3 RS
Not sure the audience would like it... LOL
We don't need more videos of youtbers buying new cars every week, we need your truly and honest reviews. For me the Blue Postnord 718, still one of my favorites 😊
Stop whining about how capable the car is and it’s only for race car drivers it’s a car that most of us will not even get to see and if I had the chance to own one I would even though it is above my ability it’s an iconic car that we may never see built again and I would love to have one!
I have heard poeple say they wouldn't want to be perfect(a fairly close 992.1 GT3), because they enjoy imperfection and struggle(992 Carrara S), when they haven't experienced it yet(Janko Lind's tunnel vision has deprived him of happiness and fulfillment, even when HE says, HE is THE connoisseur of driving dynamics(in video and in the comments). Reminds me of part of the Corvette community that defends transverse leafsprings as great, with no need for improvement, despite me explaining what crosstalk is. Yes justifying McPherson struts over double wishbones is not to the same dregree as justifying transverse leafsprings over coilovers, as both are done for cost cuting, but the mindset is the same). Having an intense guilt complex that you have to be at least a 9 out 10 driver to be allowed to enjoy a 9 out of 10 car, is not mentally healthy, as long as you can afford to buy a 992.1 GT3 and you will learn to be a good driver or already are, that's good enough. It's not the same a ruining a reproductive partner's offspring because of your lesser genetics and or parenting skills, it's not taking advantage of someone financially. If only 1 out 100 are as good of a driver as Janko Lind then he is not depriving a 9+ out 10 driver from owning a 9 out of 10 car and with Janko Lind's attitude anything more than a Toyota GR-86 would not see the light of day because it wouldn't be financially worth investing money in by manufacturers(if only 1 out of 1000 992.1 GT3 owners were eligible to own one, using his "Top Level" Racecar Drivers that he named as worthy owners analogy, the drivers who could get 99.9% out of a 992.1 GT3) and cause for a greatly reduced factory support for racing.
Thanks Janko! So, what is the b-road sweet spot? GTS? S? T? 718??
Hard to tell but my Spyder or perhaps a base Carrera with PTW wish is not available.
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@@JankoLind Base Carrera is automatic transmission only? If so then that is a deal-breaker. 992 Carrera T in manual might be ideal for my religion.
You don’t know how long I’ve been waiting for you to make this video Janko! Love your insight on this and your passion with it! Thanks again. 😎
Thanks Mohamed, thanks 🙏
I love the honesty of your videos. I don't completely agree with you, but I love your videos. Everyone should watch your videos.
Thanks Daniel, I love your comment, I try to express MY thoughts, not the massess. I don't believe everyone agree to everything I say, I would like people to think and search for there own opinions and stay true to yourself.
Janko, You are correct that Porsche have always described the GT3 as a track car which you can also drive on the road. As you say, for most people a GTS or Turbo is a much better choice for everyday use, weekend fun drives and as a GT to drive to the Mediterranean. The Turbo, of course, has far more BHP than the GT3 but is much easier to drive well.
What you have forgotten is that there are three distinct GT3 models. The Touring, the Clubsport and the Komfort. All can be optioned as Leicht models.
The car you drove unfortunately was a Clubsport with contradictory heavy luxury options (full leather, extra stitching, Bose etc) and I'm sure that your roadtest views would be very different had you driven a car to the option specification I chose which changes the car's character from a rich mans vanity purchase into more of an everyday and GT car.
My option specification is solid white, half black leather, no option stitching, no Bose, no sport Chrono, no 918 seats, no PDK, no PCCB etc. This totally changes the character of the car and reveals a softer, more accessible and relaxed personality which allows the driver to enjoy the vastly improved steering, cornering and braking compared to the 991 GT3s.
Manufacturers understandably offer press cars to create an impact and most younger drivers these days seem to only want to use launch control in a straight line as they have never leant to progressively control 500BHP in the corners as we did.
My first 911 had 165BHP, my second 195BHP and incrementally over 25 X 911s and more than 40yrs I arrived at my 25th and last 911. I regret very much that the younger generation will not have the fun, our generation has had, as we learnt to drive properly on less congested roads...
We all have our own Porsche religion, ordering a 993 GT3 without buckets is very far from my religion. In my religion, you should have bout a 992 Turbo or a GTS. Consider them when you change your car next time.
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Janko Lind H Jankovic, No! We will have to agree to disagree!! Why would anyone (other than millionaires) buy a car that was unsuitable to drive every day? Surely as enthusiasts we want to drive our car everyday? The standard GT3, without a heavy half cage, but with the standard seats is lighter than the Clubsport, has more usable luggage space behind the front seats, the seats are far more comfortable and they recline to sleep on long road trips. Porsche is very clever with the options they offer to turn the standard car into either a Clubsport or a Touring, which really ought to be re-named a Stealth. The standard model is misunderstood by most people sadly. I agree that the Turbo S, Turbo and GTS are easier cars to drive for the majority but neither have the naturally aspirated engine, 6 speed gearbox and 385kg of down force. If you take up your GT3 allocation offer, you will find the standard car a very rewarding everyday driver on country roads and autobahns.But whichever GT3 model is chosen, whichever options, a GT challenges and rewards the driver unlike any other car in the range!
You make any Porsche look even cooler xD I remember watching your 718 Spyder videos, no one really knows how to take the perfect angle for that car, but you did!
Well I am confused on your review. Yes the GT3 is a track car, but it is also a Grand Tourer (GT!) first, so some luxuries are worth having. I plan to use it as my daily and go to the track 4-8 times per year. So in my opinion, a Manual is better (PDK is good for the track) for my country driving ( live in the twisty hills, so for me it is ideal). And I like to listen to some good driving music (plus engine). So each to their own but I think you were being a bit harsh. Oh, and I do have a turbo for sundays and GT4 for fun.
PS, many of the comments you make would be suited to a GT3RS, and not the GT3. Imo
@@JB_lifestyle_cars ???? Hello do your homework.
Group GT3, known technically as Cup Grand Touring Cars and commonly referred to as simply GT3, is a set of regulations maintained by the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA) for grand tourer racing cars designed for use in various auto racing series throughout the world.
As always it’s a pleasure to see and hear how you share your passion about cars. Thanks Janko!
My favourite GT3 review on youtube! Based on your concept of the GT3 and how racecar-like it needs to be in terms of luxuries, I cannot imagine your unhappiness with the GT3 touring LOL
The biggest problem I have with the GT3 Touring is the name. It is NOT a touring. It is sprung out from the Porsche 911 R, where Porsche engineers focused on getting rid of as many things in the car. Less is much more in a GT3.
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What he starts saying at 10:45 is applicable in many aspects of motorsports. Great content! Love it
A nice video, Janko, as always. Thank you. But you are taking things too seriously and over complicate the ownership experience. It is just a nice and not very expensive car which you can tailor a bit to your personal taste, nothing more, nothing else. It is not a EUR2-3mm hypercar or some classic collectible. It is not a GT3 Cup car which comes at EUR250k without deviated stitching, but with a racing team to take care of. It is NOT a track car. Caterham is. Ariel is. GT3 Cup is. Not this one. Enjoy it, drive it, track it if you like, feel free and happy driving it to the restaurant, date, business meeting, across Europe or to a local coffee shop. That’s the true ownership experience, Bose or no Bose.
Yes, that's the experience Porsche is looking for but does not deliver in the 992 GT3. I agree on the GT3 cup...
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Another great review Janko. I sold my PDK 991.2 GT3 for a manual 718 Spyder and much prefer the Spyder as a fun road car. All your observations about the 992 GT3 were my feelings about the 991 but even more so!
What do you think about the gearing in the spyder? The only downside I see on that car…
@@mrconde9526 the gearing on my Spyder felt long I guess but it’s not as big of a deal as everyone makes it. You won’t be shifting as much in general
@@mrconde9526 Yep, the gearing is a bit long but in practice it’s not really a problem given the torque on tap. Owners of GT4s and Spyders are all pretty much OK with the gearing and it’s only reviewers who grumble about it. A much bigger issue is the way the exhaust flaps operate so fitting a valve controller (or disabling the valves altogether) is a must.
Thank you Janko for the entertainment.
What would be your top list for B-road cars?
With regards
Johan
Ohhh that is a tuff one. Today (changes a lot ;-) ) I feel in no particular order: Manual 718 Cayman T with Öhlins Road and Track, Manual 991.2 GT3, Manual 991.2 Carrera
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Another well reasoned review Janko. As an owner of a few 911's, I agree with your points.
I can drive my 87 Carrera at 100% on the roads safely, no problem, my 98 993 probably knocks me back to 80% - but my 2018 GT3 Touring
is another universe. I am guessing maybe I can safely reach 50-60% of it's capabilities? As you said, it is also an unbelievable machine that encourages you to push harder and harder - Scary! The GT3 has become an RS - track only.
I agree Daniel!
Amazing car, the only dislike is the huge plastic part on the front bumper which will age poorly and fast.
Perhaps 🤔
Always informative and thought provoking.
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Fantastic experience janko !
Why did the gt3 only have 1 blue seatbelt and the other black ?
Its a shame most get to experience these cars but with the gt4rs becoming non ltd maybe their is hope 😊
The black one you see on the passenger side is the racing harness. You don't see the blue one :-)
@@JankoLind thank you janko , great vlog playing catch up on your journey 👍
Your argument suggest the Gt3 touring obsolete / pointless why have a touring if it’s time is spent on a racetrack? Thoughts?
Your reviews always are sensible Janko. This might as well be a race car, just with an option to drive on the street. Driving this car on the street & having fun, just means say goodbye to having a driver's license. What's the rationale then for a GT3 touring?
If you know the answer to your question, please let me know.
Hi Janko
I love your review..well done
I can feel you.. I am waiting for my dealer to confirm my allocation
Cool, I guess you are a Track day jungky ;-)
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I completely agree with you but the car is so beautiful. The fact you noticed the tremendous handling from the double wishbone suspension how do you feel when you back to your 992.
Thanks wonderful job.
PS can the touring version of the GT3 be compared to the 991.1 R
Ciao
No, I don't think you could compare the 99.1 R with the touring. 992 Carrera S with Öhlins Road and Track is much more fun on the B-road in comparison to the 992 GT3.
always entertaining and interesting perspective Janko...love the GT3 for the purity of what it represents-Most Type A personalities (at least this guy) are generally drawn to the most badass engineered product/experience available. I don't need one, but I sure want one so bless Andreas and the GT division for always raising the bar. However, I likely will order the GTS instead due to how I intend to use the car. We are all different so thank you Porsche for all the great products to choose from for all us petrolheads.
Good comment David and as I always say, there is a Porsche for everyone.
Great vid Janko! Love the views. So good to see someone driving the PDK using the gear stick pushing forward for down shifts and pulling back for up. Proper race car like. Surely it is the most desirable 911 yet?? Mind I love a 991.1 Targa. I love a 991R.
The 991R might be the best 911
Brilliant and amusing. I get what you mean about the cars abilities versus the average driver and road requirements for fun. I found this to be the case with the last version too….but who would not want one!
If I was driving more regularly on track days, I wouldn't turned down my allocation. Not sure if you have Sean this video.
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Great vid and love your body pump double wishbone (you could also do a gt3 work out video for us poor sods not lucky enough to drive one). the 992 gt3 has upped the game a lot and uk 2nd hand prices are shocking. The manual hack looked like fun, think I'd choose it.
hmm GT3 work out video...
Interested to hear your thoughts on the new 911 GTS coming next year. I have my name on the list for an eventual allocation.
Glad to see you post another video! Would you say then, that getting a GT3 touring is pointless? Curious your thoughts.
Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres would have less grip, a softer ride, less flat cornering, creating a slower, less serious, driving experience(even more so with a manual transmission). This wouldn't make a 992.1 GT3 Touring into a 992.1 Carrara S but might be worth trying if Touring is your thing. Also one more step would be to get aftermarket 20x9 and 20x11.5 wheels with 245/40r20 and 305/35r20 Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres and as a added bonus 5mm more front ground clearance(traction control still works with a 10mm diameter increase for the front tyres while the rear tyre diameter goes down 1mm).
Frankly, I think there is such a nice niche available for the GT3 touring, but porsche made the mistake of not softening it, adding noise insulation and back seats on that version of the car. IMO a GT3 touring with the same noise levels, lack of luxury, and lack of back seats as the regular GT3 doesnt make any sense at all
Yes it is pointless to buy a 992 Touring. Buy a 991.2 GT3 Touring instead.
Thanks for the great review! We need to be honest with ourselves regarding “how much car is too much car”
I agree, good comment.
love your videos. love this car.
Thanks for your support drepop803
992 GT3 RS will be the pick of the range - for both racers and speculators
As I said, no need for all versions at this point. Therefore I believe you are right.
My preferred car is the 991.2 Touring, if you do not have a clear track focus. Perfect look, more subtle and still this amazing motor…
If you have a track focus the 992 GT3 is the better car.
Porsche has past the need for Touring, Club sport and RS, only one is needed.
@@JankoLind I see your point, but I think the 992 Touring is also a great car for daily use. It is simply the only way to drive a very emotional sportscar, that is not super showy. It is so much more emotional than a 992 S, that I understand everyone who prefers a GT3 Touring. I have driven both and it is a completely different world.
Yet, I definitely prefer the look of the 991.2 Touring. More classic 911 lines, better designed front spoiler and rear diffuser. And pretty low production numbers…
Extremely critical and sensational review as always! My CXX options are more about elimination for perfection than personalization. It's interesting to see how you describe which parts of the car were designed by Mr. Preuninger's team vs those from the marketing department and how they juxtapose with each other...It's a VW formula to keep the Porsche afloat and have a budget to keep Mr. Preuninger around.
By the way, we could be more gentle and warm to those comfort sport seat with surround sound system buyers - Think about the 911R....It's the same reason I keep saluting to Cayene Turbo GT buyers so we can purchase the 718 spyder and GT3 at such a good price!
Perhaps you are right? Thanks for a good comment.
You said it is a faster car, and yes it is in a track with better cornering, bit in straight line it is slower than previous version due to the aero, so in the street it will be mostly slow than 991.2 🤷🏻
I belive a Cayman T could be faster than any GT3 on public roads. It down to the driver how fast you to go. The cars is not the limit.
I just sold my GT4 and C2S and got a 991.2 GT3. I better not test drive the 992 GT3. Dont want to feel disappointed in what I have now!
yours is the best looking one
Congratulation to your 991.2 keep it.
I can totally get what you're saying about the cars ability and the average driver, but who would not want to get their arse in the seat of one and experience what Porsche motorsport can do? I understand too the Bose stereo gripe, high noise levels in the car renders paying the extra for it pointless. Great video as always, I really enjoyed the facial expressions you were pulling when pushing on, it was visible you were excited and scared at the same time. Thanks Janko.
Hi John, it is a scary car to drive on the road. It belongs on the track and only on the track. Thanks for watching.
Honest motorsport vid Janko👊
Thanks, Ziggy, happy that you are still around my channel. Appreciate all the time you spend.
love your videos!!
Thanks 🙏
However, the Bose sound system comes as standard
Not in Sweden.
A deeply thought through review this one, its an expert perspective. I've watched this twice now and probably will again - excellent work JL
Thanks, Roger, not sure I'm an expert Roger. We all have our own religions and there is nothing right or wrong. I drive too fast in a 992 GT3 and under 150 km/h it is a boring car, and I believe you know what I'm talking about since you are one lucky owner. But on the track OMG 😳
The mother in law reaction - priceless 😂😂
😝
Great review! The performance of some of these "road cars" are so high, there is very little chance to use much of this performance on the road :/. It is not just the legal limits, it is the design of the roads, the safety of the driver, other road users, and pedestrians. Would like a 911 with that GT3 sound but half the speed!
I agree :-)
great Video!!!
Thanks Capital JB Comics, Nice to se you back on my channel. Thanks appreciated.
We share something in common....the gas pedal us just a on off switch for me also. Go fast or stay home. Lol ... Cheers!
LOL could not say it better myself.
I missed you and your videos Janko, thanks for this!
Maybe you don't have highways in Sweden. In USA we have speed limits and highways. On highways, especially on long journeys, a radio can be nice. Why not make it Bose if you can afford it?
It is not a question of money; first, the car is too loud, almost all GT3 drivers use noise-cancelling headset when they drive, and secondly, it weighs too much.
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Best video yet Janko! Spot-On conversation at 11:00 mins in.
Thanks PDJ!
992 GT3 choose the PDK gearbox
992 GT3 Touring package choose the Manual gearbox
Gearbox choice sorted 😉
I'm not sure, but thanks for your opinion.
So, the 992 GT3 is pushing you to the limit !
No, it does not, the speed dose. A mediocre driver will be MUCH faster in the GT3 regardless of knowledge. To connect with the car you need to stay above 150 km/h and I'm driving on public roads wish makes the car useless.
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So true best car ever belongs on the track but they make you mega happy black ceramics comfort seats carbon roof PDK no Sports Chrono
Don't go comfort seats please... If you do, save your money on the carbon...
@@JankoLind your right but I am specking it as a sports car not track I am 65 and want to tourer social days with my wife
Janko. I always wait until I see your video popping up. You are the best, most brilliant, most passionate car reviewer and car guy. I love your videos.
Hi Jörgen, thanks for your suport and your subscription.
I almost shot milk out of my nose laughing with the driving reaction and speechlessness! 🤣🤣 how can you literally cream your pants driving this car and not buy it? I dont get it. Just get a manual and take the edge off of the speed
The problem is, P Life, you need to drive the car fast to have fun... in low speeds it's boring. Milk?
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@@JankoLind i am one of your first 10 subscribers ever. U can watch my 992 gt3 touring manual in april-may. Will be on my channel
I want one, but not bad enough to trade in my perfect spec manual Carrera T + $70k. I could never exploit half of that car's capabilities, but the want is strong.
Don't. Do. It.!. The T Army is watching... 😉
My understanding is all these 992 variants have the engine sound piped in via the speakers and hence synthetic, but still nice cleverly supplemented by induction noise, which I think is real,, and that’s what made the difference.. The slightly firmer ride and nervous front end won’t appeal to many drivers because as a road car which it is… principally Porsche might have over stepped the mark for many GT3 owners. That’s what the RS was for. Time will tell when the hype dies down, social media hypes so many things today.. look at the GR Yaris totally over sold. … that’s not saying either are bad cars just over cooked.
To a certain level, I agree with you...
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Love your videos
Nice video Janko. However, I disagree with several of your points. The 991 GT3's (as per your arguments) seem to be a better "normal guy" car and therefore their values will undoubtedly go up. Many modern cars have proven that "faster, sharper, "better"" does not always add up to more fun. The other point you make on the "deviated stitching, Bose system, etc" I believe are also invalid. One of the best features of a 911 (especially the GT3) is that you can take it to the track (awesome weapon) and later on that night, take your girl to dinner in a nice ride. This duality is exactly what makes these cars so special. Still, a good video, but be more tolerant of the people who use these vehicles for ALL what they were intended to achieve.
only one that will really go up in value is the LAST NA GT3. This actually may be it. They have been claiming such since the beginning of 991. Not as pretty as the 991
Too expensive to track and the center locks are a true pain in the ass on the street. Completely stupid. Slave to the dealer
We all have different religions but the 992 GT3 is a game changer and I agree with 02HREBlue, last NA will hit the bell. 🔔
You still alive Janko?
YES
didnt expect northmens know what emotions mean)
Hi Michal, happy to that I could change your knowledge bank. By the way, BIG thanks for your subscription. Please let your friends know about my channel.
Absolute agreement on the PDK. You will never be able to come close to the potential this car offers. If you love the experience of the manual, a 997.2 gt3 is more than adequate.
No more restrictive laws
Agree but we will have them.
I get your stance on the GT3 Touring. I feel like the GT3 Touring is a good car in its own right, but it should not have the "GT3" name.
The Carrera GTS seems like a pointless car to me because it is not much different than a Carrera S. If I was running things at Porsche I would get rid of the current Carrera GTS, and then just name the GT3 Touring as the Carrera GTS. That way people can get the engine and performance of the GT3 while having the comforts of a Carrera
You have a point, skip the chassis and just fit a NA engine to a stock Carrera. I agree.
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Nice
Thanks
A Mona Lisa with a moustache....I'll stick with my .2RS and time will tell...
At 2.51, "I don't know if you're horny or just need to take a pee." Huh, did I hear right? This channel has always appealed to me for being subversive compared to the standard Porsche TH-camrs. But this seems even more so. Go get 'em Janko!
its a beautiful model thats for sure.
With the super limited release you can be sure 95% of thr people who get one will not be taking it to the track.
they will be taking it to get their lattes ......
But its like a rolex Vs a swatch.... both tell the time.... why spend 50k over $50..
because .... they can ! !
and yeps..... lucky them !
it is the NEW GT3 !!!
Well then, let them have their lattes.
expresso before video Janko !!!!!!!!!!! @gt3point2
LOL best comment ever...
Summary:
If you are a collector or like to watch the car dust in your garage, this is the car for you.
If you always need have newest greatest, this is the car for you.
If you actually want to push the limit to get the enjoyment, this is not a car for you.
:P
Good point, you could change the last point to:
If you go regular on track day, buy a GT3 RS
992 Turbo better comfort, faster and no wanker big spoiler 😎
better street car for sure
You don’t give average reviews, I’ll give you that much. :) And you do caveat your strong opinions as such, before you give them. But do you review a wide enough sample of cars to be able to declare the 992 gt3 the best sports car in the world? Isn’t it a race car, anyway? :)
You are right, I shoud have said best Porsche...
Some do consider that the same thing. ;) Any news on the spyder rs? Engine, etc? It appears to be a real thing, so far.
Not a good review. I think values of 991.2 gt3 prices seem to be holding up pretty well, particularly as you can’t get a 992 gt3 and there is £100 k difference between used values. I agree the pdk is probably the way to go, but the argument of not having air conditioning or Bose to save weight when it’s used on the road for fun and engagement not completion lap times is ridiculous.
Yes, driving actively on public roads with the 992 GT3 is ridiculous.
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Shitting on people based on subjective opinion is a risky move, I understand it is your opinion, but what value do you bring to the table expressing it? I will understand if you were trying to make an impact by expressing your opinion, but non is to be made by poking fun of people specing a car to express themselves and then shitting on their form of expression. Makes absolutely no sense, then you apologize for offending people? Stick to your gun and do not apologize or don't say anything at all.
Its illegal to drive like this in my country therfore race drivers car is pointless.
It is a 100% track car.
Bose. Guilty. Deviated stitching. Also guilty. Sorry
LOL Mike
We all have our own religion.
Too bad it’s the PDK transmission and not the manual.
I'm not sure I would go with the manual transmission in the 992 GT3.
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