Taipei Cycle Show 2024 | The Best eBikes & Tech!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มี.ค. 2024
- Steve Jones is at the Taipei Cycle bike show to show you some new hot tech! We check out bikes from: Meta, Flyer, Gates Carbon Drive, Ryuger, Gary Fisher, Funn Pedals, Kellys, Merida, Darfon, Transition, SRAM, SKS, BESV, SANFA, KTM, Bafang, A N J.
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yeah, the ANJ Titan got my attention. Great components and great price to get more friends into emtb-ing. Any informations when and where to buy it?
Java for sure.
Ryuger by far the best no split frame
One piece full carbon frame
No weak frame like the split frame
Not even close.
wow the meta e bike looks pretty cool and at a cool price!
Gary Fisher, wo hoo, along with Glen Turner and Kieth Bontrager. Welcome to my (old) world.
good video😃
That sure seems to be the future for sure! Gates belt running a 12 speed Motor drive unit.././.Clean, Quiet and long lasting....!!!
The Fuell Flluid 2/3 seems similar. Coming this May
Guess how much this costs folks..... "2200 USD".... okay, so about £4000 in the UK then!
Thats Brexit for ya!
@@Csapi007 does it mean it won't be 4000 euros in Germany?
@@SonnyDarvishzadeh nah, it means that Csapi007 is just slightly dim.
8k in Australia then!
Gary Fisher is Da Man! Great that you recognized him Stevie!
met him once in the early 1990's - what an amusing person.
Chain drive and derailleur is a thing of the past.. the pinion belt drive system is THE ONLY way to go. That would be my next bike, if only we could buy it in Australia.!!
Some of the prices quoted by Steve for a brand new full suss E-MTB were nothing short of jaw dropping. $2600 US! By the time these bikes arrive here in the UK those prices will have more than tripled. If this is the post Brexit paradise we were all promised then we were sold one massive lemon and it sucks!
Why will prices triple when you can order them straight from China and have it shipped to your door?
@@jayanderson6016FFS, Taiwan is NOT China! Seriously
Smaller batteries which fit in older bicycles either increasing the range or reducing the weight is what the industry needs.
I enjoyed that, good to see whats available . Thanks 😁
Love that $20,000 RYUGER
yeah it's amazing, just goes to show how overpriced some "normal" ebikes (e.g. s-works) are...
Great video, thanks Steve!!
Thank you
ALWAYS LOVE THIS GUY SO GREAT TO WATCH
Some really interesting things coming out of there, cheers Steve.
Really enjoyed this vid Steve! Awesome!
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching 🙏
Nice one - i enjoy it in Germany! Thx ❤
Welcome to Taiwan!
thanks for having for having us, so much good bike tech here!
Very interesting. Would love a piece on the relationship between the designers at the big frame manufacturers and the bike companies. As I understand it, the frame designers are commonly the origin of the next great ‘thing’. Why? Because it’s all well and good thinking up a new suspension design, but can it be built? The frame builders’ design departments are the teams thinking up what’s the next possible ‘thing’ and offering that to the bike manufacturers. Yes, a piece on that relationship would be fascinating.
Interesting your chat with the Gates guy. we've had Gates on our eSUV (Mountain bike with mudguards and rack) for 2 years. Very little off road, clean cycle path use and my belt snapped @2600 miles. There are mixed views on durability, some folks claim big milage before replacement, however several posts of snapped belts at relatively low mileage. My 137T costs around £130ish, if you can find one! The replacement front belt wheel and rear sprockets are also pretty expensive compared to conventional sprockets. From my personal experience, the jury is out if I would purchase another bike with the Gates system.
If you have a chain break, you can likely repair with a few spare links and chains are cheap and readily available in every bike shop. The Gates snaps - enjoy your walk home!
That meta looks awesome
Did you know more about the brand?
True. The SKS mudguards are 100% the best there are on the market.
I really like my SKS Mudrocker front and REAR fenders for my full suspension mtb.....best real mtb capable fender I've tried.
The tech in the E mountain bike now is amazing. Really good to see prices are coming down to reality .This is the cutting edge of E vehicles, not cars or motorcycles. Belt drive and internal gearing especially. I have a homemade bike, BBSHD with 7 speed 11-34 tooth rear ,48volt. 42 T front compromise for the road.That will climb really good and that is all I need for internal gearing. Keep it simple is what I will be looking for!Being able to pedal your fair share keeps it honest.
I am not holding my breath that those USD quoted prices will ever see the light of day outside of Taiwan.
I bought a Transition repeater but I also got a Chinese emtb with very similar geometry. They both ride amazing and I prefer the bike I only spent $1500 on .
Sweet! What was the Chinese emtb? There’s so many it’s hard to tell which are good.
My next bike will in all probably be a Chinese modular bike running a Bafang motor. Had enough of rio off Britain.
What Chinese emtb do you ride?
@johnchristopher5075 u do know, that China has ripped off millions of manufacturing jobs (= wealth) from Britain and all western countries, right? So its not like u score a win with China.
awesome bikes
Great to see all the new companies into building e mountain bikes. These should help to drive down the price to a more realistic level and hopefully without compromising parts and build quality. Great show Steve.
Did you watch the video major companies are made there so that place is the industry so meaning the quality is already given already its not a backyard manufacturing taiwan is the manufacturing powerhouse from mountain bike and the best silicon CPU we used in the world right now. So what do you think will be the quality when they are the one who makes best smartphone CPU in the world like 75% are from them
Good time I’m living China now and just started looking for a EMTB ,Thanks for the brand names to search for😁
I'd like to see a DC fork on more enduro bikes. I personally love the feel of the dual crown fork on my Intense Tazer, but very few manuf even offer this on their bikes. Great video...keep up the good work!
Sadly there aren't many about! But maybe we'll see more in the future? 🤔
Very nice ❤
7:03 Man, I took a 20-year-old Gary, Fisher. And I turn it to an e. Bike I can't believe I'm sitting here. Listening to Gary Fisher, this is awesome.
the guy might easily pass as a stunt man in a Gene Hackman action movie
It was interesting to see several lesser known brands have pricing that can be considered affordable. Shame we will NEVER see them here in the US without massive price markups.
Motor+gearbox unit is the way to go. Cassetes are obsoletes.
gearbox will wear too
@@michaelculhane3058only with engineered obsolescence
the merida is fking sick!!!!!!!
"glasses that don't scratch"...sound good ! Now how do they do in humidity / fog ?
C'était un beau 'salon de la moto' .
Those appear to indicate huge price drops coming!
My KMC chain (12 speed e version) that came on my Giant Trance X E+ is still good to go after 1000 miles. I don't even know how that is possible - it has not been babied - just cleaned/lubed. fyi: I don't ride in mud since that is a huge no-no in my region and causes major trail damage that prompts land managers to threaten (and have) to permanently close off trails to bikes
I have the same luck with a 20.00 Deore 12 soeed chain on my Spectral ON, I think the secret is dont grind the cogs during shifting, and of course dont bury it in the mud. 1000 miles and it still measures good.
That meta etc are trying out this BB placement further back and up this year so makes me abit wary of these id need to try before buy
I hope we get more away from the chain/ cassette gearing after 40years of cycling i really appreciate to see more alternative (and hopefully reliable) shifting alternatives👍
I'm wondering what fully equipped full suspension bike you recommended for bike packing? My budget is up to 5.5k
TREK 1120 with plenty of money left over to equip it beyond belief!
@@jayanderson6016 Thanks, but i'm after a full suspension ebike with rack mudguards and lights
0:45 , could not find any info about the brand dokers or dolkers? Where could i buy it?
Non-scratch glasses... yeah, like what most of us have on our phones. It's GLASS. A special treatment and process, but glass non the less. Love it. Only reason companies didn't apply this to their glasses was for plan of obsolescence. Happy to see a moral company releasing the properly engineered hardware. I like living in the future... without the whole cost panic problems. lol
none the less vs non.
Hello is there a link for the Joyy Highland E-Sam800 ebike ?
I can't find a dealer in USA or where to buy. Would like to do a review too.
7:49 sounds like "paddles" .
GO jAVA EBIKE. Who actually has one?
All my components are from SRAM....however NOT their Brakes. Hope Technology is one of the very few HIGH Performance Brakes....Adjustability and super powerful. are key features!
Anybody know the brand meta? Can not find it in the net. Please let me know.
can you guys do a review of the new Aventon Rambler hardtail e mtb please!!!! only 2600
the Maven brakes on the Transition Repeater are mounted as standard with the +20mm adapter on the same screws as the caliper... which is strongly discouraged by SRAM in its technical assembly documentation otherwise the whole thing will become damaged. tear off the fork or frame due to too much braking effort 😂😂😂
What happened to the revonte system, no gears, I want that.
Theres me building bikes for under a hundred dollars
❤ How much is it?
Can I ask you the name of this withe byke on the intro and the producer thx
Thnx
$2000 dollars for a full eBike.????....Makes the stupid expensive $12,000 bikes look like nothing but a rip off!
Because $12k bikes are a ripoff!
U get the cheapest cassette, chain, tyres, brakes,... Try it, while u going downhill. Not me. I'm going for the middle range bikes.
@@dhuys3338 DHUYS...I'm right with you with quality when your healthy life is hanging in the balance, what I was trying to say was the the $12K bikes are NOT 6X better than the $2K bikes .... Sure there is better suspension, the transmission is way better, as are the rest of the components...just not 6X the price.....The 5 figure prices is what started in the Pandemic where the lock down got boring real quick so people went crazy ordering up bikes....they ran out of parts quickly then everything started to get real pricy when the Back Orders started.....THe Trek bicycle company may collapse under it's own greed....
@@dhuys3338 why would you want an Ebike for Downhill?
XT on a couple of them but I can't find a dealer in USA or where to buy. Would like to do a review too.
Not many news... soon bike industry do a great come back
ARe they legal on the road ?
Would it be possible to - when Steve says "Full Power", play the video of the fella on the electric chair saying "full power" followed by his zapping!?
The Taiwanese and Chinese bikes are going to kill the small boutique US/EU brands.
I suppose Pon Holdings can probably just buy them all when the smoke clears.
One thing for certain, mountain bikes are finally about to be priced for what they are worth, which is far less than we've been paying!
hydraulic brakes are old now... any airbrake tech there?
Sounded more like you were channeling your inner Guy Kesteven Yorkshire accent rather than a Cumbrian one. Nice try Steve! 😂
Saying "Full Mountain Bike" ignores a 250watt 36v base system. Full means 2000watt 52v. It's only a partial mtn bike.
4:50 what is this dag wearing? Clearly a case of a few roos loose in the top paddock there.
Sorry but most of these brands I’ve never heard of and at those prices it’s fire-sale time…how many will be around next year?!
I can see its hard to find something really new at this show.
Bits and pieces. Lots of makers trying to jump on the same bandwagon.
Little foot traffic, mirroring the historic global chaos and downturn in the bike industry with resulting glut of inventory that even dramatic price slashing can't clear out.
A e-MTB frame only for $300US. OMG!
You pay the rest when you go to the hospital with broken bones xD
Those Yellow boots that guy is wearing are Ferragamo's like $2000 but you can't buy them
If they are unpurchasable how do they cost $2000?
No stock, not made anymore @@unfurling3129
I saw nothing new. Would like to have brakes that work in freezing temps like -25 C but no.
2000 USD until you import the bike into Canada and it’s suddenly 8Gs. Go western society!
here in the united states we never get any of the brands of bikes i see in europe why is that
When the EMTB was first out, Europe and the UK were the home to all the festivals, shows, and racing. Still is today, really. Also, the EMTB were and still are much more accepted in the "community." Unimited trail access and very limited "gate-keeping", negativity, and generally petty-ness.
How do I buy some of these bikes in USA
Yes, the US is in the Stone Age as it relates to e-bikes and e-bike acceptance compared to Europe. It sucks.
The problem with all online bought E-MTB's is NOBODY WILL FIX IT! Unless you buy from your local shgop a brand they sell, good luck getting it fixed when it breaks. And it WILL break. Anybody want to buy my Ariel Rider 2x2 Grizzly X-2 POS? lol.
10k for a e-bike? No thanks! I will buy 3 used ones for this.
25km/h, no thanks, bosch and shimano anti tuning policy can fuck off. we can choose ourselves to chip it or not , if not, last emtb i ever bought. And alot of people think that way. prepare to loose alot of customers bosch/shimano
lose vs loose
You can't really buy any of these bikes in USA. If I could I would.
Yellow shoe bloke is upset
Soooo... Licensed by Shimano... my how the mighty have fallen.
"We arent the only game in town anymore and retailers and consumers believe/know third party competitors do test and verify compatibility with our products. Lets cash in by licensing these products."
So now that Shimano figured out how to cash in on what we already kbew all of a sudden they are aknowledging you can mix in non Shimano parts.
This more than any is a sign how much trouble the bike industry is in. Since Shimano isnt getting paid by the larges oems they have to find other income streams right?
Don't want a bike made by Facebook.
They say help the planet go electric & at the same time USA wants to ban e-bikes?
only some trails
Hopefully greed will get the better of these overpriced bike companies
You got it,rip off britain!!!!
Some of the bikes this guy gave prices for are WAY more, like nearly 3 times more money than what he said! Maybe he meant retailers could buy them in quantity for that much? So BULL SHITE!
So many headset routed bikes, just say no don't let the industry dictate this crap solution that saves them money and costs us more in the long run.
Manila is NOT bike-safe and has a long, long way to go. Iya had escorts and that made her safer...Just like politician in their SUV's
Looking all 90% the same
Please get your intro sound right...my ears bleed
Steve, you aren't 12 anymore...you can stop with the mtb vs roadie shit.
Overpriced junk
Shimano motors are garbage
What an ugly, car-centric city. The should have built Pumptracks and Dirttracks instead of investing anything anymore in that weird automobilisti-lifestyle of ca. 1925.
Hi Gary fisher Check this out. I just converted my 20-year-old Gary Fisher. Fully suspended bike to an ebike. And it is f****** bad a**
absolutelly WASTE OF MONEY for thise teriblle low spec and HEAVY MTB