This was the reason why I left my job as a bicycle mechanic at an official Trek store in Belgium. Few professionals have the ability and desire to provide excellent service. Unfortunately, my boss never let me work as deeply as you do on a complete and assertive review of the bike. The philosophy was to carry out the services as quickly as possible... without paying attention to detail... I didn't have a clear conscience when I left the store and realized that I could have done a better job on the customer's bike, if work could be done correctly how you do it.
Same here at your northern neighbours, no time for honourable work. True craftsmanship is not lost at all but seems hard to find. Exactly why I'm planning to establish a new shop focused solely on eye for detail and transparency
Now this is what you call love and devotion. Great work and very well presented. Love watching your high quality content. Most people see bikes and cars as one offs knibbling on maintenance. I always say. “Take care of your gear gear takes care of you” What do you guys reserve as yearly running costs of an e-mtb?
Slow if there is a heavy work load including other bicycles / emergency repairs / distractions to deal with . The video sadly doesn't account for these things . This is why I am quicker . I lock out distractions to get the five hour deadline accomplished . In this industry , you need to be timely .
It all depends on how long he was spraying water into the outlets of the motor, and if it dried out before the battery was connected, but yeah, the motor could be dead @anonymousone6075
And definitely not directly on the surface, but rather the cloth you're polishing with. There were other mistakes you can make out in the video, but OK.
As an old ex motocrosser who recently took up eMTB with a Trek Rail I found this fascinating and was astounded at the level of detail and commitment to excellence. Expensive, yes but worth every penny! I'm now looking for insights on every day servicing as I took note of the need to clean shock and fork seals etc... Thanks for a great video
One tip, NEVER spray water with a hose on your shocks, its not really something that is innately dangerous, but under higher pressure, you CAN damage your seals.
Soft cloth, wipe the shock and fork legs down, that should be it. Maybe after a heavy dirty ride, make sure there's no sand or dirt on your seals, but once again, just wipe them down.
It's very therapeutic and interesting to watch such a master at work. That customer can know with 100% confidence that her bike really is better than new.
I admire your attention to detail and professionalism, but boy am I glad I’ve taken the time to learn and service my own bikes. Whilst I don’t dispute and understand the rationale for the price, I’m clearly too tight and would struggle parting with a couple of hundred for a service. That said, it’s nice to see some transparency when it comes to pricing!
Really apreciate the care and attention you put into everything, down to the smallest nut or bolt. However, can't get over the fact that an e-bike service can run up to a thousand pounds. Not blaming you, just noticing the irony that cycling, which used ti be the cheap way of getting around, is becoming just as expensive as owning a motorcycle or car. The times we live in.
You can buy a Slash as they are still offered in non - electric versions . I have one and they are much easier to troubleshoot and look after . They are still great fun .
The age of the eBike just added a new chapter to the whole story of the bicycle and made more intense rides accessible for a broader public. Non electric (let's call them acoustic) bikes are still going strong, not much changed in that regard. Only the youth getting a bit weaker without having to deal with headwinds biking to school
@@appelflapdrol Good point about accessibility and the school children . I find 250 watt limited (125 labotatory measured ) configurations don't make much difference for me at 73 kilograms . It is good only on very steep climbs above 15 degree inclines . My current TREK 4300 custom build / upgraded is nimble and great pleasure as well as a good climber for her category . A recently revised bike fit for her made a real difference to me and my efficiency .
I'm riding a 15 Yrs old single speed Gary Fisher bike. The maint' costs are as low as can be. You want easy life and go full electric there is a price tag attached to it.
Your inspection was very in-depth and comprehensive. Like one poster stated.....his boss would not allow this deep of an inspection. This reason alone is why I wrench my own bikes and have so for a few decades. Sadly, I am self-taught through things like your channel and reading repair books. You should come to the states and set up a shop and hire me as an apprentice to wrench! Lol. I would certainly do it as I like wrenching as much as riding.
Thank you so much for making this video. As a 5yr mechanic now- it’s really refreshing to see a mechanic who can translate mechanic language to customer so proficiently. If we weren’t countries apart- I’d apply for your shop in a heartbeat. I love recommending customers your videos to help articulate what top tier mechanics do to a bike- for what often times seems like a lot of money when they have no context. Keep doing what you’re doing!
When he first said 320 for just labour I was like what the hell, then I saw how much work they actually do and now it seems like a reasonable price. I mean, I still wouldn't pay it, I'd just replace it myself when it fully breaks, but I can see the convenience factor of having someone else do all that annoying work. Good job, I just wish everyone serviced this well.
5000-10000 is what this bike costs. that's more than some motorcycles. can you imagine the cost to get a motorcycle fully disassembled to the frame and ever component serviced? you are looking at 5000 just for the service lol
I've done a lot of work on my bikes, and they often require special tools. Golden rule, start job early and when the bike shop is open in case I need help....
Nice. I’ve just started doing my own mobile bike repair business again after a few years. Im only 22 so got loads to learn. Never done an e-bike service really nice to see this. Not long found this channel but really enjoy it 👍
As a mechanic myself, I applaud your attention to detail. The one thing I personally have switched from is back to standard stainless steel cables. In my opinion, the slick cables are more brittle and prone to kinking,, especially when gear cables have to make torturous bends inside shifters. Standard cables are more supple and (in my mind) the the "rough" surface allows the cable to hold onto lube.
@@Thezuule1 owner of a full suspension eMTB - service really takes a bit longer than on my hardtail MTB, but it honestly isn't that much more involved. Yes you have to check more things regarding rear triangle and pivot bearings, but that also applies to non electric full suspension bikes. My bike uses Shimano EP801 motor so it's a bit different from the Bosch shown in the video, but very similar in procedure. One thing that I love about removable battery is the ability to internally route cables without a hassle of fishing it through the frame holes, it makes it so much easier to service things like droppers and derailleurs.
Hats off for the quality of service! Sometimes, I don't share your opinion on tech and groupsets, but there is no doubt that the service quality that you offer in your shop is really, really good! Unfortunately, I think 95% of all bike shops are nowhere near as good...
The reason for remove the dork is: 1:the dealer knows that u have tinker the bike and u don't have Garantie anymore 2: if Your chain slips, it is very expencive and the Dealer maks mony with the repair;) Kids belive everything,and old say:That has always been the case❤.
I stumbled across this video in my feed and glad I watched it. As a non E-bike owner, I had no idea they even needed a service and merely thought the usual consumables like chain, pads and cables. very informative and the service is worth every penny, having now seen the amount of work involved. Am sure this one video generates more willing and repeat customers. subscribed :)
Watching this makes me glad I got out of the bike industry right before ebikes became so popular. I have nothing against them but working with this tangled mess of wires doesn’t appeal to me in the slightest. Not to speak of headset cable routing, crappy internal guiding and all the other ways the bike companies have found to make a mechanic’s life a bit harder. Might as well work on cars, motorcycles, trains etc and make decent money.
You could still specialize in road bikes; it's a smaller market but probably won't have a sigificant amount of electric bikes in the foreseeable future.
I work on my cars and motorcycles, dirtbikes are still pretty simple but modern cars and roadbikes are not engineered with service and maintenance in mind, I must say (surprisingly) my current BMWs 3 series & X5 are way easier to work on than my previous Audi and most front drive cars...Still lot of swearing 😂
@@Bonky-wonky One look at ANY wiring harness for any 90's to mid 2000's bike will make e-bikes look like a joke. I speak from experience, worked on a Korean. And one look at a wiring harness for a current-day motorcycle will make you quit instantly. Hell, you probably don't even need a harness, just look at the diagrams. These e-bikes are pretty simple, although I do agree/hate headset cable routing and stuff, although around where I live this type of BS never catched on, as we're never riding near the edge, imported stuff is super expensive.
I am impressed how you can share your knowledge and method for bike services. I work as a race mechanic for big international Events, and i am very strict with the system and process. Most of the mechanics i see are easily distracted and take shortcut, tools everywhere and got addicted with mobile phone notifications , but You are one of the best i saw, clean, precise and rapid. Well done for your expertise and workflow. i ve learn few things from you.
I just helped my mechanic try to diagnose a wiring issue and ended up breaking two other wires in the process. So frustrating, but also so fun to ride!
I have a trek rail 9.9 and I really appreciate this video, even tho I couldn't really use you due to where I live this video alone is helping me keep regular self servicing on my bike, think it's worth pointing out guys if you have been involved in bikes like myself since a young child and also built bikes these videos can help you do your own servicing.
Great and informative video. I don't actually own a EBike but was intrigued to see what is involved in the servicing... even more glad I don't have one now 😂
I don't have a mountain bike nor an ebike but like to work on my bikes, and this kind of service is mind-boggling to me. If I have to pay a bike shop that much money to service an eMTB or spend lots of time to do it myself, I'd rather ride a non-assisted hardtail. That said, I thoroughly enjoy watching your work and expertise.
sounds like you have a mountain bike if you have a hard tail! but yes this kind of service is pretty bonkers and awesome and fun to watch. guy seems like a good dude too
@wrcompositi An MTB e-bike ant its core is effectively an underpowered dirt bike that you can pedal manually on occasion. Buy a dirt bike and don’t maintain it with regular work on the suspension and braking similar to that shown in this vid and pretty soon you’ll be seeing a dentist for teeth repair or you’ll have a wall ornament. These types of rides by their nature demand a good deal of regular maintenance to run properly. For some that is acceptable and for others it is not.
Word up to this^ it's kinda like anything in life too - if you have the means to have fun with it, do it! i got into RC planes during covid and now i'm stuck realizing i really don't live in a good area to fly them. long story short, eMTBs are cool but only if you have the place to use it to its potential and can afford the wear/tear/maintenance costs, to each his own! and also long live hardtails! :P@@ivanboesky1520
find 3x8/9 speed mtb with only front spring suspension, v brake or cable disc , clean and lube chain regularly and cost to use that bike would be minor
It was lovely to watch a total professional carry out a "full service" not just a spit and polish with new brake pads. Keep up the great work and thanks for keeping us informed of what is actually necessary to keep an e-bike going. Sending respect from Australia!
This is what I expect when I take my bike for service. What I get is a bike that is functionally worse than when I dropped it off. Then after taking it right back in after a spin in the parking lot twice give up and fix it myself. Good to see you guys aren’t all hacks.
The price seems fair for the effort involved. Inspections at the dealerships I know look different, they cost around EUR 120 and the garage doesn't do more than an absolutely minimal service. That's actually too expensive. One thing at the end of the video didn't make sense to me. The spray contains silicone, which you really shouldn't spray on the whole wheel with the exposed brake disc.
Amazing! I've never seen such professionalism / knowledge in servicing a mtb bike / ebike. Love that you have a "clean room" and use Wera tools. Client will be happy for many years with your work. BTW: I still ride a 30 year old Cannondale that I service myself.
As a bafang ultra uart owner. I don't have to deal with proprietary software and hardware, all the parts I need are easy to find, cheap and accessible, including batteries. I have 1000w at my disposal at any given time, a throttle when I get too tired and was way cheaper than any other brand name eMTB, I just connect my laptop when I want to change any settings. Plenty of info on online forums. Bosh have their system lock down, you only can use their batteries that cost a fortune and their chargers that are 3 times more expansive for no reason. You require a bosh dealer account to have access to software updates and diagnosis. Now, my question is: If you can't change anything on YOUR bike, and you can't fix yourself without Bosch authorization, a bike you paid for, does it belong to you?
Fantastic work done with honesty and care. Here in the US pacific north west, I'd gladly pay the $540 USD for this level of service from an honest shop
Great video and amazing overview to maintaining an ebike! The thing i wondered is that Isn't it risky to spray that "protect and shine" with the rotors on?
Great video and very enjoyable. Especially when I realise how much cash I've saved by being able to work on my own bike. The tools I've bought over the years have more than paid for themselves 😁
I loved everything in this video because it really did show how extensive and complex servicing these bikes has become. Unfortunately, lots of people still only want to pay a pittance to their LBS (local bike shop) when little do they realise the knowledge, the tools and the care that is required. I bike mechanic these days has to have expertise in mechanical servicing, along with hydraulics, and now electrical/electronics skills. The LBS also needs an expensive, wide range of tools. One thing that made me shudder was the Peaty's Mint and Shine spray you spurted around to do your final polish. OMG! After all that hard work you probably got a greasy film all over the brake discs! One tip that I'm going to follow in the future is, I am going to take my battery out more often to check for moisture and make sure my wiring harness is free of dampness and grime. Thanks for sharing your video.
I hate these new bikes,i think the beauty of cycling was its simplicity and ease of maintenance...its just a cash cow now.and since when did i ever change a chain on my old Peugeot 105 now we change em like underpants.
Another great video. My passion is my bike and part of that is serving so I always enjoy watching such a detailed analysis of the repair and the passion you put in. I especially like it when you call out big brands for poor parts and assembly.
The worst bit is the battery doesn't work for long,apparently you have to re-charge them at certain times,but no one will tell me which times...they don't tell you this in the bike shop☹️.
Really horrible build quality on those Ebikes. Everything is wet, not sealed and has rust. For a bike category that is supposed to be robust and durable this is really disappointing. Especially considering one has to put 500-1000 in maintrnance every year on top of it. The cherry on top is that those Bosch motors fail after 10-25k miles and need to be replaced.
I would be scared to ride any of these hard. I go down hills, stairs, tear through cobblestone streets, over tram tracks. No chance I would trust the strength and durability of these. Last thing I would want to do is go over the handlebars when it breaks. Especially at the speeds these go.
The costs are similar with normal mtbs though. Ebikes do see more wear, but the general maintenance is the same. If you ride enough to need that level of service annually, you'd do well to perform some of it yourself. Either way, cost of ownership is something that should be considered before the purchase. If you can't afford the maintenance, you can't afford the bike.
Big thumbs up. I work on bikes for the clients that pursue me (mostly road bikes, mostly Campagnolo as a specialty). I haven’t messed with e-bikes, but this is obviously a fast growing segment of the industry and adding another significantly technical aspect to bicycle service. It was great watching this and the roughness of your work!
You are really honest about the service. Especially mentioning what I was thinking all the time. That bike does not need a service. Just a quick check. BUT... seeing the corroded axle made me think that the first service is necessary due to lack of grease from fabric. Well done!
Every time I fix my bike, it gets delayed a week waiting for a specialist tool... I damaged my reverb dropper hose connector, slamming it down into the frame. That was an expensive part and pain.... Great work and video....
2 points. Don’t put the frame without any protection on your workingstand while replacing the dropper cable. Spray your towel to polish instead of the bike. This will cause brakeproblems on the rotors and discs. Great video to see!
That’s a good price for the workmanship, thank you for being so transparent, right up to giving the price. I don’t deal with e bikes, only standard mechanicals, I charge £150 for a full strip down to bare frame and rebuild & that includes new Jagwire gear & brake cables and a full report, much like yourselves. I’ve always maintained my own bikes, but started my own business 4 years ago, I no longer work for a living, I do a job I love, customer satisfaction is paramount to me. Love your videos, thank you… I’m still learning, and you make it even more enjoyable👍😃🚴
Thorough and entertaining, well done! As a wrench myself, I appreciate your effort and detail in bringing the public what actual procedures in maintaining a bike and involved costs. Kudos. Subscribed.
Awesome job! a little thing i have learned from my own experience when working at a bike shop is putting some kind of cloth between the stand clamp and the dropper post can prevent any bits of dirt scratching the post and eventually making it lower/rise worse then it was before
Crazy how much work and effort you put in this for that price! I did most of this myself several times but I would actually be happy to spend that money and rather leave it to you guys if you were around the corner! Cheers and thanks for the great video!
My service bill this year for a Riese and Muller mulitcharger came up to around £200. I replaced the chain and cassette, sent both wheels off for their annual hub service, replaced front and rear brake pads. Found the headset bearings to be in good condition along with the air forks and brake rotors
I guess it probably shows that you easily pay in service charges more than was paid for the bike especially a cheaper make. Great insight into e- bikes. Thanks
Wow, so much work and attention to detail. Don't have an e-bike (and dont want one now!) but this is the kind of service I wish my other bikes received at the workshop, but very unlikely they do....
For internal cable routing, i cut the cable at its start and tape the end of the new one to the freshly cut end, pull thru slowly and it works great. If it has to go thru housing ill go thru the housing first then tape it to go thru the frame. Works a charm.
I'm glad I can do 80% of this by myself $$$ !!! Proper job anyway ! 👊 Good trick about the dropper cable length while routing it to give enough flex and adjustability. But I'm not spraying anything on bikes to avoid contamination and pollute less, there are always non-spray alternatives.
It's not cheap but that's a lot of excellent work and well worth it . I wonder how many are so careful to do a proper job 🤔 Lovely to see someone doing it properly 👍
I've made a career out of the art of good maintenance, as a Millwright, R&D tech & Custom fabrication for a large Seafood processor in Alaska and as an Aircraft maint Mech & Inspector for a U.S. Major Airline. I know a craftsman when I see one and this fellow is a Gem. That was fun to watch !
Bosch are awesome If i brought another ebike again it would be only Bosch. I have a 2019 PWX2 Yamaha and at 2000km had it rebuilt. Replaced the plastic drive cog. It looked perfect but when it was apart may as well replace it. 1 of the 2 main bearings was running rough so replaced both mains. Everything else was good. Trouble free so far but i dont ride in the rain. Mud is ok but no rivers or big puddles.. I lift it over.
Credit to this rider for bringing in their bike early for preventative maintenance! would have been a 10/10 if she had washed her bike before but that's just wishful thinking as a former mechanic. Top work as always.
Excellent video. One thing to note on the Trek Rail however is to pay attention to the battery catch and make sure it’s properly lubricated. I used to remove my Rail battery to charge it and dry it after cleaning. Unfortunately I went out for a ride and as I dropped off the kerb on the way to my usual route, the battery dropped out of the housing and went bouncing down the road, damaging the casing. I discovered the battery catch hadn’t engaged fully and it wasn’t properly holding the battery. Fortunately the battery itself wasn’t compromised.
I have a lot of respect for my local bike store mechanics, this attention to detail for $500 here in the US is a really good deal. We got a place that does this for around $600.
I have 2 Volt alpine e bikes with Bafang motors. I used to race cross country non e bikes but now at 66 I just do trails. Done 6k miles between them. Not a single problem other than brakes and adjustments. I rag the things over some harsh terrain with friends on very much more expensive bikes. Without exception they have had problems with motors and suspension. No doubt they are much better bikes but I have every confidence in Bafang who have been building e bikes for 80 yrs. Love a flash bike but don’t think will ever be able to afford one. Fascinating tear downs you do
Great work! If you weren't thousands of miles away I would bring my bikes to you for service. Most of the shops around me are staffed by kids that can hardly assemble bikes from the manufacturer into riding condition.
Now this is what you call love and devotion. Great work and very well presented. Love watching your high quality content. Most people see bikes and cars as one offs knibbling on maintenance. I always say. “Take care of your gear gear takes care of you” What do you guys reserve as yearly running costs of an e-mtb?
Certainly, if you need to have a workshop service your bike, you won't get a better job than this - very thorough and skilled for sure. I would also say the pricing here is also very fair for the level and amount of work undertaken. In practice, bike maintenance is mostly straightforward (putting the suspension parts to one side) - it's basically disassembly, cleaning, assessment (keep/replace) reassembly (greasing/lub etc). If you ride expensive bikes regularly it is 100% worth it to take a bike maintenance course, if nothing else you will obtain a degree of mechanical sympathy and get to know the effects of exposure, dirt and grime but importantly, how to disassemble and reassemble safely. My approach is to do much of this kind of work regularly (eg even after a long day out in all conditions, get it partly stripped and cleaned..) - its called preventive maintenance and also finds early warning signs before they become costly replacements. Anyway, great work MAPDEC.
Iv got the feeling that this is gonna become the best bike channel on youtube in terms of quality content. Cuz i think u have most effort to reach perfection and u also fully understand everthing like mechanics and physics. I really cant await more Videoson your channel :). honestly, even each long Video is 100% worth to Watch. Thank you very much for sharing your experience with us, that really helps me andf others as well i guess ^^. greetings from Germany.
That's worth every penny for the quality of your work. Unfortunately it's not been my experience with the bike shops ( or car shop tbh ) I've used who either do nothing but charge plenty still or find stuff that's wrong when there is nothing needing doing and also just doing a poor job leaving things untightened or spilling brake fluid everywhere and not bothering to clean it off etc etc. Had one guy who left the oil filler cap off the car on a very expensive car. Finding a good mechanic is priceless and once I trust them I will pay whatever they need to do the job properly.
Good job on the service , lots of time and attention to detail involved . I used to decades ago service cars for a living , back then services for some brands came in A, B , C classification, with A being the smallest and C being a page of fine print taking many times longer. Looking at this I think cars are actually easier😃, at least on the small services , and back then cars where very simple compared to today. It was good to watch you doing the service , thanks for posting.
good service...you can work on my e bike any day but quite expensive for a low cost alternative to cars...my electric Renault zoe service is €200 per year.
I do all my servicing and strip downs myself- just rebuilt my Pikes and Monarch RL fully (new bladder in the Pikes)...The motor is the only bit I won't touch but just send it off to be rebuilt (I've watched Pete Collards videos- makes it look simple but without a hydraulic press and all the bits forget even trying!!-I'm not sure I'd degrease my Gen 2 CX in a bath though, they are pretty awful at keeping water out especially the NDS, let alone degreaser!)...But your service is great value, when you consider the bike/manufacturer specific tools you need to acquire for doing this it gets mega expensive....and that's not even considering the knowledge, skill, confidence and experience you need. A rebuild of my motor is £315, I'll happily pay that as my van tax was about £250 and you get nothing for that... a rebuild ensures another few years happy biking!!
I've rebuilt my ebike like a year ago completely after a repaint, the dropper setup also caused me a good few hours, and had to take the mot rin and out like 4 times, to have the best routing for it.
Regarding cleaning - we have customers that come in whose bikes are (politely) caked in mud - do you have an upcharge for cleaning? Also, I noticed your shop uses a solvent tank rather than an ultrasonic cleaner (at least I haven't seen one in your vids) - does your solvent system recycle the cleaner (some units have a heat/filtration cycle) and is it a hydrocarbon based solvent or? I really appreciate the dedication to detail and quality your shop has. It takes a special shop and educated customers to make a go of it at that level.
Hey. Yes. We charge £15 for cleaning. Or give the customer the opportunity to use our wash station outside. The cleaner you see is a Smartwasher. It is an enzyme that is kept warm and cycled. It’s not a solvent.
One thing to note, and this is from the tech guys at Shimano/Madison, is that if you run your rear mech through a parts washer you should always perform a clutch service on it afterwards. Even though it is technically sealed they have told me in the past that it isn't perfect and will need re-lubricating afterwards or else it is going to run dry and cause more issues in the long run.
This was the reason why I left my job as a bicycle mechanic at an official Trek store in Belgium. Few professionals have the ability and desire to provide excellent service. Unfortunately, my boss never let me work as deeply as you do on a complete and assertive review of the bike. The philosophy was to carry out the services as quickly as possible... without paying attention to detail... I didn't have a clear conscience when I left the store and realized that I could have done a better job on the customer's bike, if work could be done correctly how you do it.
That was very nice of you to share. I wish more bike mechanics had your mentality.
Most bike shops struggle to keep the lights on and the mechanics are paid poverty wages. A shop depicted in this video is a rarity
Do a good job, charge fairly for your time and experience and you will find customers.
Same here at your northern neighbours, no time for honourable work. True craftsmanship is not lost at all but seems hard to find. Exactly why I'm planning to establish a new shop focused solely on eye for detail and transparency
Now this is what you call love and devotion. Great work and very well presented. Love watching your high quality content. Most people see bikes and cars as one offs knibbling on maintenance. I always say. “Take care of your gear gear takes care of you”
What do you guys reserve as yearly running costs of an e-mtb?
Lovely to see someone who takes so much pride and care in their work. Great video
Slow if there is a heavy work load including other bicycles / emergency repairs / distractions to deal with . The video sadly doesn't account for these things . This is why I am quicker . I lock out distractions to get the five hour deadline accomplished . In this industry , you need to be timely .
Yesterday I asked for more mtb content. Now I'm watching exactly my bike being dissected by a pro. Thank you so much!
Happy to help!
Spot on servicing, I'd spray the protect and shine on before pads/wheels went back on though..
It all depends on how long he was spraying water into the outlets of the motor, and if it dried out before the battery was connected, but yeah, the motor could be dead @anonymousone6075
And definitely not directly on the surface, but rather the cloth you're polishing with. There were other mistakes you can make out in the video, but OK.
If you are as thorough off cam as you showed us on cam, the service you provided is well worth every cent. Well done!
As an old ex motocrosser who recently took up eMTB with a Trek Rail I found this fascinating and was astounded at the level of detail and commitment to excellence. Expensive, yes but worth every penny!
I'm now looking for insights on every day servicing as I took note of the need to clean shock and fork seals etc...
Thanks for a great video
Thank you.
One tip, NEVER spray water with a hose on your shocks, its not really something that is innately dangerous, but under higher pressure, you CAN damage your seals.
Soft cloth, wipe the shock and fork legs down, that should be it. Maybe after a heavy dirty ride, make sure there's no sand or dirt on your seals, but once again, just wipe them down.
Ex Moto guy here also, I’m trying to decide between turbo levo or ktm 300, hard decision to make
It's very therapeutic and interesting to watch such a master at work. That customer can know with 100% confidence that her bike really is better than new.
I admire your attention to detail and professionalism, but boy am I glad I’ve taken the time to learn and service my own bikes.
Whilst I don’t dispute and understand the rationale for the price, I’m clearly too tight and would struggle parting with a couple of hundred for a service.
That said, it’s nice to see some transparency when it comes to pricing!
Wow this is an extremely detailed service. Wish my health care was this good.
Really apreciate the care and attention you put into everything, down to the smallest nut or bolt. However, can't get over the fact that an e-bike service can run up to a thousand pounds. Not blaming you, just noticing the irony that cycling, which used ti be the cheap way of getting around, is becoming just as expensive as owning a motorcycle or car. The times we live in.
You can buy a Slash as they are still offered in non - electric versions . I have one and they are much easier to troubleshoot and look after . They are still great fun .
The age of the eBike just added a new chapter to the whole story of the bicycle and made more intense rides accessible for a broader public. Non electric (let's call them acoustic) bikes are still going strong, not much changed in that regard. Only the youth getting a bit weaker without having to deal with headwinds biking to school
@@appelflapdrol Good point about accessibility and the school children . I find 250 watt limited (125 labotatory measured ) configurations don't make much difference for me at 73 kilograms . It is good only on very steep climbs above 15 degree inclines . My current TREK 4300 custom build / upgraded is nimble and great pleasure as well as a good climber for her category . A recently revised bike fit for her made a real difference to me and my efficiency .
@@appelflapdrolThe good old days of getting your sports class done before even stepping into school 😂
I'm riding a 15 Yrs old single speed Gary Fisher bike. The maint' costs are as low as can be. You want easy life and go full electric there is a price tag attached to it.
Your inspection was very in-depth and comprehensive. Like one poster stated.....his boss would not allow this deep of an inspection. This reason alone is why I wrench my own bikes and have so for a few decades. Sadly, I am self-taught through things like your channel and reading repair books. You should come to the states and set up a shop and hire me as an apprentice to wrench! Lol. I would certainly do it as I like wrenching as much as riding.
Dude. Do it yourself. Set up a shop. Be excellent. Riders are crying out for mechanics that care.
Thank you so much for making this video. As a 5yr mechanic now- it’s really refreshing to see a mechanic who can translate mechanic language to customer so proficiently. If we weren’t countries apart- I’d apply for your shop in a heartbeat. I love recommending customers your videos to help articulate what top tier mechanics do to a bike- for what often times seems like a lot of money when they have no context. Keep doing what you’re doing!
Thank you. I had no idea folk would show our videos to riders. wow.
You can always add some electrical grease to the battery contacts and other connections for added corrosion resistance.
For the pay it forward fund. Greetings from the Netherlands.
Thank you so much.
When he first said 320 for just labour I was like what the hell, then I saw how much work they actually do and now it seems like a reasonable price.
I mean, I still wouldn't pay it, I'd just replace it myself when it fully breaks, but I can see the convenience factor of having someone else do all that annoying work.
Good job, I just wish everyone serviced this well.
5000-10000 is what this bike costs. that's more than some motorcycles. can you imagine the cost to get a motorcycle fully disassembled to the frame and ever component serviced? you are looking at 5000 just for the service lol
I've done a lot of work on my bikes, and they often require special tools.
Golden rule, start job early and when the bike shop is open in case I need help....
@@bmxscapeapples and pears
Nice. I’ve just started doing my own mobile bike repair business again after a few years. Im only 22 so got loads to learn. Never done an e-bike service really nice to see this. Not long found this channel but really enjoy it 👍
Welcome. You will love the back catalog
It takes time, patience, and knowledge to do a good job, most riders don´t see the work behind it only we mechanics do it. Awesome video!
Quite possibly the most interesting and enjoyable TH-cam video I’ve ever watched. Thanks. It’s awesome narrative and explanation ❤
Wow, thank you!
Wow! It's great to watch a professional at work and to see the care and attention to detail being shown! Well done!
As a mechanic myself, I applaud your attention to detail. The one thing I personally have switched from is back to standard stainless steel cables. In my opinion, the slick cables are more brittle and prone to kinking,, especially when gear cables have to make torturous bends inside shifters. Standard cables are more supple and (in my mind) the the "rough" surface allows the cable to hold onto lube.
This is a reminder of how much I love my mechanical road bike that I can service myself. 😀
You could do a ebike yourself it's no harder
@@steve17bf2 having watched this video I can assure you that servicing an eMTB is significantly more work than servicing my road bike.
@@Thezuule1 owner of a full suspension eMTB - service really takes a bit longer than on my hardtail MTB, but it honestly isn't that much more involved. Yes you have to check more things regarding rear triangle and pivot bearings, but that also applies to non electric full suspension bikes. My bike uses Shimano EP801 motor so it's a bit different from the Bosch shown in the video, but very similar in procedure. One thing that I love about removable battery is the ability to internally route cables without a hassle of fishing it through the frame holes, it makes it so much easier to service things like droppers and derailleurs.
Hats off for the quality of service! Sometimes, I don't share your opinion on tech and groupsets, but there is no doubt that the service quality that you offer in your shop is really, really good! Unfortunately, I think 95% of all bike shops are nowhere near as good...
That massive dork disc behind the cassette 😅
Youre a hero for removing it
Some customer ask to put it back. Lol.
It’s there for a reason
Musst put it back, its an Icon 😊
@@arbjful just set your limit screws properly and you'll be fine
The reason for remove the dork is: 1:the dealer knows that u have tinker the bike and u don't have Garantie anymore
2: if Your chain slips, it is very expencive and the Dealer maks mony with the repair;)
Kids belive everything,and old say:That has always been the case❤.
I stumbled across this video in my feed and glad I watched it. As a non E-bike owner, I had no idea they even needed a service and merely thought the usual consumables like chain, pads and cables. very informative and the service is worth every penny, having now seen the amount of work involved. Am sure this one video generates more willing and repeat customers. subscribed :)
Glad I could help!
Watching this makes me glad I got out of the bike industry right before ebikes became so popular. I have nothing against them but working with this tangled mess of wires doesn’t appeal to me in the slightest. Not to speak of headset cable routing, crappy internal guiding and all the other ways the bike companies have found to make a mechanic’s life a bit harder. Might as well work on cars, motorcycles, trains etc and make decent money.
You could still specialize in road bikes; it's a smaller market but probably won't have a sigificant amount of electric bikes in the foreseeable future.
I work on my cars and motorcycles, dirtbikes are still pretty simple but modern cars and roadbikes are not engineered with service and maintenance in mind, I must say (surprisingly) my current BMWs 3 series & X5 are way easier to work on than my previous Audi and most front drive cars...Still lot of swearing 😂
If you think this is a tangled mess of wires and can't really deal with it... You won't make it with motorcycles, much much less cars my man...
@@LoneWanderer905 ok, “lone wanderer”…
@@Bonky-wonky One look at ANY wiring harness for any 90's to mid 2000's bike will make e-bikes look like a joke. I speak from experience, worked on a Korean. And one look at a wiring harness for a current-day motorcycle will make you quit instantly. Hell, you probably don't even need a harness, just look at the diagrams.
These e-bikes are pretty simple, although I do agree/hate headset cable routing and stuff, although around where I live this type of BS never catched on, as we're never riding near the edge, imported stuff is super expensive.
I am impressed how you can share your knowledge and method for bike services.
I work as a race mechanic for big international Events, and i am very strict with the system and process.
Most of the mechanics i see are easily distracted and take shortcut, tools everywhere and got addicted with mobile phone notifications ,
but You are one of the best i saw, clean, precise and rapid. Well done for your expertise and workflow. i ve learn few things from you.
I just helped my mechanic try to diagnose a wiring issue and ended up breaking two other wires in the process. So frustrating, but also so fun to ride!
I have a trek rail 9.9 and I really appreciate this video, even tho I couldn't really use you due to where I live this video alone is helping me keep regular self servicing on my bike, think it's worth pointing out guys if you have been involved in bikes like myself since a young child and also built bikes these videos can help you do your own servicing.
Great and informative video. I don't actually own a EBike but was intrigued to see what is involved in the servicing... even more glad I don't have one now 😂
I wish your shop would be closer to me and I would be your best customer ... Top Quality maintenance
Maybe one day!
They are close to me and let me down badly, won’t ever go back. You can fool some of the people some of the time etc.
@@bjorntoulouse9080 oh. Please tell. We invite feedback. Who are you, what did we fail at?
I don't have a mountain bike nor an ebike but like to work on my bikes, and this kind of service is mind-boggling to me. If I have to pay a bike shop that much money to service an eMTB or spend lots of time to do it myself, I'd rather ride a non-assisted hardtail.
That said, I thoroughly enjoy watching your work and expertise.
We are all different
sounds like you have a mountain bike if you have a hard tail! but yes this kind of service is pretty bonkers and awesome and fun to watch. guy seems like a good dude too
@wrcompositi
An MTB e-bike ant its core is effectively an underpowered dirt bike that you can pedal manually on occasion. Buy a dirt bike and don’t maintain it with regular work on the suspension and braking similar to that shown in this vid and pretty soon you’ll be seeing a dentist for teeth repair or you’ll have a wall ornament. These types of rides by their nature demand a good deal of regular maintenance to run properly. For some that is acceptable and for others it is not.
Word up to this^ it's kinda like anything in life too - if you have the means to have fun with it, do it! i got into RC planes during covid and now i'm stuck realizing i really don't live in a good area to fly them. long story short, eMTBs are cool but only if you have the place to use it to its potential and can afford the wear/tear/maintenance costs, to each his own! and also long live hardtails! :P@@ivanboesky1520
find 3x8/9 speed mtb with only front spring suspension, v brake or cable disc , clean and lube chain regularly and cost to use that bike would be minor
Totally respect your professionalism.
I do my own servicing on our bikes at home.. watching this has confirmed that I do not want an e-bike .
As I am slowly fed up with the prices the last time, I have to say that 300 quid is a fair price for all the job you do. Good job 👍
400
$381.84 converted to US dollars. Thats alot of money 💰! And they dont wven run it tubless. Softcore rider with hardcore deep pockets i imagine
Yes fair, but how can a customer know that this level of care will happen on such a complex bike? (And rerouting cables included? Yikes!)
It was lovely to watch a total professional carry out a "full service" not just a spit and polish with new brake pads. Keep up the great work and thanks for keeping us informed of what is actually necessary to keep an e-bike going. Sending respect from Australia!
i can't unsee that saddle.
Excellent video again Paul. Love your attention to detail and down to earth commentary whilst running through the work. 👍👍👍
Lubing all the electrical connections with dielectric grease (also known as silicone grease) is a tip that I can give. Helps prevent corrosion.
Outside of connectors only to keep out moisture since silicone is not conductive.
Can you put it on the Battery contact's
@@mrnemo1480 Use a little brush and go light on the contacts.
This is what I expect when I take my bike for service.
What I get is a bike that is functionally worse than when I dropped it off. Then after taking it right back in after a spin in the parking lot twice give up and fix it myself.
Good to see you guys aren’t all hacks.
We try.
The price seems fair for the effort involved. Inspections at the dealerships I know look different, they cost around EUR 120 and the garage doesn't do more than an absolutely minimal service. That's actually too expensive.
One thing at the end of the video didn't make sense to me. The spray contains silicone, which you really shouldn't spray on the whole wheel with the exposed brake disc.
Amazing! I've never seen such professionalism / knowledge in servicing a mtb bike / ebike. Love that you have a "clean room" and use Wera tools. Client will be happy for many years with your work. BTW: I still ride a 30 year old Cannondale that I service myself.
As a bafang ultra uart owner. I don't have to deal with proprietary software and hardware, all the parts I need are easy to find, cheap and accessible, including batteries. I have 1000w at my disposal at any given time, a throttle when I get too tired and was way cheaper than any other brand name eMTB, I just connect my laptop when I want to change any settings. Plenty of info on online forums.
Bosh have their system lock down, you only can use their batteries that cost a fortune and their chargers that are 3 times more expansive for no reason. You require a bosh dealer account to have access to software updates and diagnosis.
Now, my question is: If you can't change anything on YOUR bike, and you can't fix yourself without Bosch authorization, a bike you paid for, does it belong to you?
Well said. I just got my first eMTB with Bafang M510 motor and it is fricking awesome. Was on sale too for 2000€.
Fantastic work done with honesty and care. Here in the US pacific north west, I'd gladly pay the $540 USD for this level of service from an honest shop
Great video and amazing overview to maintaining an ebike! The thing i wondered is that Isn't it risky to spray that "protect and shine" with the rotors on?
Hasn’t been a problem for the last decade. If it was I wouldn’t be doing it as we would have to keep changing rotors when customers complain.
@@MapdecGood to know, asking because many of the big cycling channels have warned against it, but then their tips usually need a good serving of salt.
Great video and very enjoyable. Especially when I realise how much cash I've saved by being able to work on my own bike. The tools I've bought over the years have more than paid for themselves 😁
That's a pretty reasonable price for all of the work you did.👍
Especially for the quality of service, talk about having your service on TH-cam. Healthy dose of transparency 🎉
I loved everything in this video because it really did show how extensive and complex servicing these bikes has become. Unfortunately, lots of people still only want to pay a pittance to their LBS (local bike shop) when little do they realise the knowledge, the tools and the care that is required. I bike mechanic these days has to have expertise in mechanical servicing, along with hydraulics, and now electrical/electronics skills. The LBS also needs an expensive, wide range of tools.
One thing that made me shudder was the Peaty's Mint and Shine spray you spurted around to do your final polish. OMG! After all that hard work you probably got a greasy film all over the brake discs!
One tip that I'm going to follow in the future is, I am going to take my battery out more often to check for moisture and make sure my wiring harness is free of dampness and grime. Thanks for sharing your video.
I hate these new bikes,i think the beauty of cycling was its simplicity and ease of maintenance...its just a cash cow now.and since when did i ever change a chain on my old Peugeot 105 now we change em like underpants.
Yeah ya gotta wonder if in 5 yrs you'll even be able to get parts for a bike like this let alone a battery when it inevitably dies.
@@scottf3456The batteries are easy to find, even on much older Bosch ebikes. The issue is more that they're expensive.
Another great video. My passion is my bike and part of that is serving so I always enjoy watching such a detailed analysis of the repair and the passion you put in. I especially like it when you call out big brands for poor parts and assembly.
Get a Ebike. Their great. Until you have to do all the added cost for maintenance. But the bike shop don't tell you this.
Its a scam full riged motor cross are cheaper 😅
The worst bit is the battery doesn't work for long,apparently you have to re-charge them at certain times,but no one will tell me which times...they don't tell you this in the bike shop☹️.
Love this video, such care and attention to detail... Now i must do the same on my Trek Rail. Thanks for the encouragement!
Do it.
Really horrible build quality on those Ebikes. Everything is wet, not sealed and has rust. For a bike category that is supposed to be robust and durable this is really disappointing. Especially considering one has to put 500-1000 in maintrnance every year on top of it. The cherry on top is that those Bosch motors fail after 10-25k miles and need to be replaced.
I would be scared to ride any of these hard. I go down hills, stairs, tear through cobblestone streets, over tram tracks. No chance I would trust the strength and durability of these. Last thing I would want to do is go over the handlebars when it breaks. Especially at the speeds these go.
The costs are similar with normal mtbs though. Ebikes do see more wear, but the general maintenance is the same. If you ride enough to need that level of service annually, you'd do well to perform some of it yourself. Either way, cost of ownership is something that should be considered before the purchase. If you can't afford the maintenance, you can't afford the bike.
Big thumbs up. I work on bikes for the clients that pursue me (mostly road bikes, mostly Campagnolo as a specialty). I haven’t messed with e-bikes, but this is obviously a fast growing segment of the industry and adding another significantly technical aspect to bicycle service. It was great watching this and the roughness of your work!
You are really honest about the service. Especially mentioning what I was thinking all the time. That bike does not need a service. Just a quick check. BUT... seeing the corroded axle made me think that the first service is necessary due to lack of grease from fabric. Well done!
Love your workshop and your work ethic….well done.
Thank you very much!
Every time I fix my bike, it gets delayed a week waiting for a specialist tool...
I damaged my reverb dropper hose connector, slamming it down into the frame. That was an expensive part and pain....
Great work and video....
So much knowledge and care in that teardown and rebuild. Absolute bargain at that price, you're doing the cycling lords work, keep it up!
Great video. Great to see someone care about the customer's bike as if it was their own like you do
Thanks 👍
2 points. Don’t put the frame without any protection on your workingstand while replacing the dropper cable. Spray your towel to polish instead of the bike. This will cause brakeproblems on the rotors and discs. Great video to see!
This was a fantastic video. The service bill was cheaper than I would have thought for all of this time and effort.
man this was a solid satisfying service to watch lol love the attention to detail. I pray my first ebike service does this well lol
Amazing work! I wish I had a service centre that offered this level of quality and care.
That’s a good price for the workmanship, thank you for being so transparent, right up to giving the price. I don’t deal with e bikes, only standard mechanicals, I charge £150 for a full strip down to bare frame and rebuild & that includes new Jagwire gear & brake cables and a full report, much like yourselves. I’ve always maintained my own bikes, but started my own business 4 years ago, I no longer work for a living, I do a job I love, customer satisfaction is paramount to me. Love your videos, thank you… I’m still learning, and you make it even more enjoyable👍😃🚴
Thats about our price for a bike without suspension
Thorough and entertaining, well done! As a wrench myself, I appreciate your effort and detail in bringing the public what actual procedures in maintaining a bike and involved costs. Kudos. Subscribed.
Thank you.
Awesome job! a little thing i have learned from my own experience when working at a bike shop is putting some kind of cloth between the stand clamp and the dropper post can prevent any bits of dirt scratching the post and eventually making it lower/rise worse then it was before
It’s a good tip.
Thank you very much for this outstanding, very high skilled presentation. Thank you also for the comprehensive information on the price. Best regards.
Crazy how much work and effort you put in this for that price! I did most of this myself several times but I would actually be happy to spend that money and rather leave it to you guys if you were around the corner! Cheers and thanks for the great video!
My service bill this year for a Riese and Muller mulitcharger came up to around £200. I replaced the chain and cassette, sent both wheels off for their annual hub service, replaced front and rear brake pads. Found the headset bearings to be in good condition along with the air forks and brake rotors
I guess it probably shows that you easily pay in service charges more than was paid for the bike especially a cheaper make. Great insight into e- bikes. Thanks
Sometimes.
Proper tools and proper love for your job sir !!!! Kudos !!!!!!
Thank you very much!
Wow, so much work and attention to detail. Don't have an e-bike (and dont want one now!) but this is the kind of service I wish my other bikes received at the workshop, but very unlikely they do....
This is part of the reason I love my regular mtb that I service myself 😊
For internal cable routing, i cut the cable at its start and tape the end of the new one to the freshly cut end, pull thru slowly and it works great. If it has to go thru housing ill go thru the housing first then tape it to go thru the frame. Works a charm.
I'm glad I can do 80% of this by myself $$$ !!! Proper job anyway ! 👊 Good trick about the dropper cable length while routing it to give enough flex and adjustability. But I'm not spraying anything on bikes to avoid contamination and pollute less, there are always non-spray alternatives.
It's not cheap but that's a lot of excellent work and well worth it .
I wonder how many are so careful to do a proper job 🤔
Lovely to see someone doing it properly 👍
Thanks 👍
thanks for the video, great work, congratulations! I wish most services have that mentality and attention to details.
I've made a career out of the art of good maintenance, as a Millwright, R&D tech & Custom fabrication for a large Seafood processor in Alaska and as an Aircraft maint Mech & Inspector for a U.S. Major Airline. I know a craftsman when I see one and this fellow is a Gem. That was fun to watch !
Thank you 🙏
Worth the cost and a treat to watch, thanks
You got the love Bosch motors for the quality, ease of use and serviceability.
Bosch are awesome If i brought another ebike again it would be only Bosch. I have a 2019 PWX2 Yamaha and at 2000km had it rebuilt. Replaced the plastic drive cog. It looked perfect but when it was apart may as well replace it. 1 of the 2 main bearings was running rough so replaced both mains. Everything else was good. Trouble free so far but i dont ride in the rain. Mud is ok but no rivers or big puddles.. I lift it over.
@@robvanduren761 at the shop we have a customer who did 70k on his Active Line BDU, without a single rebuilt.
Credit to this rider for bringing in their bike early for preventative maintenance! would have been a 10/10 if she had washed her bike before but that's just wishful thinking as a former mechanic. Top work as always.
Maybe she rode it to the store on a wet day?
Excellent video. One thing to note on the Trek Rail however is to pay attention to the battery catch and make sure it’s properly lubricated. I used to remove my Rail battery to charge it and dry it after cleaning. Unfortunately I went out for a ride and as I dropped off the kerb on the way to my usual route, the battery dropped out of the housing and went bouncing down the road, damaging the casing. I discovered the battery catch hadn’t engaged fully and it wasn’t properly holding the battery. Fortunately the battery itself wasn’t compromised.
I have a lot of respect for my local bike store mechanics, this attention to detail for $500 here in the US is a really good deal. We got a place that does this for around $600.
I have 2 Volt alpine e bikes with Bafang motors. I used to race cross country non e bikes but now at 66 I just do trails. Done 6k miles between them. Not a single problem other than brakes and adjustments. I rag the things over some harsh terrain with friends on very much more expensive bikes. Without exception they have had problems with motors and suspension. No doubt they are much better bikes but I have every confidence in Bafang who have been building e bikes for 80 yrs.
Love a flash bike but don’t think will ever be able to afford one. Fascinating tear downs you do
Great work! If you weren't thousands of miles away I would bring my bikes to you for service. Most of the shops around me are staffed by kids that can hardly assemble bikes from the manufacturer into riding condition.
Sadly very true.
!00% professional service nothing left to chance love the video thank you .
Now this is what you call love and devotion. Great work and very well presented. Love watching your high quality content. Most people see bikes and cars as one offs knibbling on maintenance. I always say. “Take care of your gear gear takes care of you”
What do you guys reserve as yearly running costs of an e-mtb?
Where we live it is wet, muddy, rocky and steep, so I recommend folk budget for £1000 a year
Certainly, if you need to have a workshop service your bike, you won't get a better job than this - very thorough and skilled for sure. I would also say the pricing here is also very fair for the level and amount of work undertaken. In practice, bike maintenance is mostly straightforward (putting the suspension parts to one side) - it's basically disassembly, cleaning, assessment (keep/replace) reassembly (greasing/lub etc). If you ride expensive bikes regularly it is 100% worth it to take a bike maintenance course, if nothing else you will obtain a degree of mechanical sympathy and get to know the effects of exposure, dirt and grime but importantly, how to disassemble and reassemble safely. My approach is to do much of this kind of work regularly (eg even after a long day out in all conditions, get it partly stripped and cleaned..) - its called preventive maintenance and also finds early warning signs before they become costly replacements. Anyway, great work MAPDEC.
Thanks. I kinda agree. Much of our value is in repairs and comparability issues.
For the pay it forward funds! Gotta keep 'em on the road.
Thank You. 🙏
Great video.
Would love to see the customer reaction after the service.
Thanks.
Iv got the feeling that this is gonna become the best bike channel on youtube in terms of quality content. Cuz i think u have most effort to reach perfection and u also fully understand everthing like mechanics and physics. I really cant await more Videoson your channel :). honestly, even each long Video is 100% worth to Watch. Thank you very much for sharing your experience with us, that really helps me andf others as well i guess ^^. greetings from Germany.
That is very kind. Please spread the word.
That's worth every penny for the quality of your work.
Unfortunately it's not been my experience with the bike shops ( or car shop tbh ) I've used who either do nothing but charge plenty still or find stuff that's wrong when there is nothing needing doing and also just doing a poor job leaving things untightened or spilling brake fluid everywhere and not bothering to clean it off etc etc.
Had one guy who left the oil filler cap off the car on a very expensive car.
Finding a good mechanic is priceless and once I trust them I will pay whatever they need to do the job properly.
thats a lot of work, thanks for showing so much care, i don't think i'd get any maintenance near this level in my area (unless i do it myself)
Good job on the service , lots of time and attention to detail involved .
I used to decades ago service cars for a living , back then services for some brands came in A, B , C classification, with A being the smallest and C being a page of fine print taking many times longer.
Looking at this I think cars are actually easier😃, at least on the small services , and back then cars where very simple compared to today.
It was good to watch you doing the service , thanks for posting.
Thank you so much, really enlightened me to the complexities of a detailed utmost professional service. Subscribed!!
Thank you Lego dude
Great to see some MTB stuff. Love your care and attention.
good service...you can work on my e bike any day but quite expensive for a low cost alternative to cars...my electric Renault zoe service is €200 per year.
I do all my servicing and strip downs myself- just rebuilt my Pikes and Monarch RL fully (new bladder in the Pikes)...The motor is the only bit I won't touch but just send it off to be rebuilt (I've watched Pete Collards videos- makes it look simple but without a hydraulic press and all the bits forget even trying!!-I'm not sure I'd degrease my Gen 2 CX in a bath though, they are pretty awful at keeping water out especially the NDS, let alone degreaser!)...But your service is great value, when you consider the bike/manufacturer specific tools you need to acquire for doing this it gets mega expensive....and that's not even considering the knowledge, skill, confidence and experience you need. A rebuild of my motor is £315, I'll happily pay that as my van tax was about £250 and you get nothing for that... a rebuild ensures another few years happy biking!!
I've rebuilt my ebike like a year ago completely after a repaint, the dropper setup also caused me a good few hours, and had to take the mot rin and out like 4 times, to have the best routing for it.
Great service job. I am just a bit concerned with the spraying of the PTFE spray at the end and the proximity of those disc rotors 🙉
Regarding cleaning - we have customers that come in whose bikes are (politely) caked in mud - do you have an upcharge for cleaning?
Also, I noticed your shop uses a solvent tank rather than an ultrasonic cleaner (at least I haven't seen one in your vids) - does your solvent system recycle the cleaner (some units have a heat/filtration cycle) and is it a hydrocarbon based solvent or? I really appreciate the dedication to detail and quality your shop has. It takes a special shop and educated customers to make a go of it at that level.
Hey. Yes. We charge £15 for cleaning. Or give the customer the opportunity to use our wash station outside. The cleaner you see is a Smartwasher. It is an enzyme that is kept warm and cycled. It’s not a solvent.
One thing to note, and this is from the tech guys at Shimano/Madison, is that if you run your rear mech through a parts washer you should always perform a clutch service on it afterwards. Even though it is technically sealed they have told me in the past that it isn't perfect and will need re-lubricating afterwards or else it is going to run dry and cause more issues in the long run.