In a way, what happened to Anakin on Mustafar, was justice for all the sick things he did, and being consumed by his selfishness. I still believe the Jedi way of no attachment, and keeping knowledge away from their students did Anakin no favors in healing him from his past. But one cannot deny that Anakin’s desperation and selfishness caused his own downfall, and put him right back into a life of slavery… albeit he was a powerful slave.
Back onto a life of slavery. Is that an original thought? I've never thought of it like that, but now I've heard it, I agree & I doubt I'll ever forget it thinking of vader now.
@@leighlowe1069 It was my original summation after reading the books and tallying the totality of his life. It would seem that he was always in subservience to someone after the Jedi failed him in my view.
SWBF2 2005 has amazing mods of Operation “Knightfall” - balanced damage of blasters and lightsabers, BIG main hall map with default chambers map, STUNNING music of John Williams, crowds with blasters against crowds with lightsabers and realistically UNBEATABLE representation of early Lord Vader (he can beat three padawans with one saber throw). I cant stop playing this masterpiece over and over again.
Yep, pretty fucked. Crazy how fast he went from savior to heartless psychopath. Honestly I think killing Palpatine to save his own son wasn’t enough to redeem him and allow him to rejoin the Force, since saving one’s child is inherently self serving too.
He might have done about as well as Mace Windu. But I've always been convinced that it would have taken both Anakin and Obi-Wan to defeat Palpatine. It's also very possible one of them would be killed, in the process.
I wish we could see just how betrayed all the jedi in the temple felt seeing anakin, the poster child of the clone wars, hero of the galaxy, chosen one, murdering their friends and colleagues
I always wondered why Vader didn't employ droids to record/ steal vital records of the Jedi and collect even the restricted artifacts for himself and put everything somewhere he could access later and hide it from Palpatine.
Til this day, the ROTS game and BTF 2 (2005) are the only Star Wars content to extensively cover the assault on the temple. If Disney ever does a Vader Series (which I highly doubt) this should definitely be covered. Siderant: I always hated the Jedi with the double bladed sabers in the Rots game. They were VERY annoying to beat. I was relieved when I finally finished the level.
Part of this just doesn’t feel right. Why would he carry out all of these terrible deeds if he “knew Sidious couldn’t save Padme?” I thought the whole point was that he truly believed it and didn’t want to commit these horrible acts but did so in hopes of being able to save his wife? Him doing these things so easily and without hesitation immediately thinking about rising to power as opposed to saving padme makes me feel much less remorseful for Anakin if that is accurate
In “Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader,” it’s explained that Anakin knew Palpatine was lying and manipulating him, but he was already too far gone to turn back. So he followed the orders to destroy the Jedi simply to get them out of the way for his own benefit. He planned to kill Palpatine immediately and then rule the galaxy with Padmé anyway, as soon as he learned how to keep her from dying. It’s also mentioned in the Revenge of the Sith novelization how Anakin was imagining killing Palpatine on Mustafar. But obviously, everything went sideways when Obi-Wan showed up with Padmé.
supposedly this will happen in ashoka... but don't hold your breath that its going to be good... its likely going to be done in a way to make ashoka the chosen one.
“Planned to kill Palpatine …” Goodluck with that … Sideous may not of known his motivation for destroying the temple but he knew of his plan to attack him after and welcomed it, that’s cannon.
In which book does it describe anakin using force lightining in the jedi temple???? in the movie rots they say palpatine couldnt teach him cuz things needed to move quickly ????
I would've loved for them to have put all of this in rots and i personally would've thought it would've been better if ahsoka's cruiser made it to courascant and makes her way to the temple then aniken starts his siege and she has to have a face off with him
Say you are really good at researching this. Do you know who except Padmé and Qui Gon's ghost knows what Anakin did to the Tusken in Attack of the Clones? I mean slaughtering a village including the women and children should be something that a Jedi would cost everything right?
How did the clone troopers know that Anakin wasn't a target? I am assuming that order 66 was implanted into the clones long before Anakin became Vader. Could the clones somehow sense who was a Jedi and who wasn't?
They were likely given direct orders from Palpatine informing them that Vader was not a Jedi and to listen to his orders on the battlefield as long as they didn't contradict his own.
I’m sure there’s some retconned reasoning. Originally, the clones didn’t have inhibitor chips, they just followed orders. In the Legends book “Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader,” it’s blatantly stated that they didn’t have chips and that some clones disobeyed Order 66 because they liked their Jedi friends. The whole inhibitor chip thing was introduced a few years later in The Clone Wars
In the Chip arc in the Clone Wars Series Tups Chip malfunction and it caused him to execute Tiplee and nearly kill Tiplar but spared Anakin so the Clones were programmed to ignore Anakin but kill the other Jedi
@@fancytracy In the RoTS video game (came out on OG Xbox in 2005) it has quite a bit of content revolving around anakins rampage in the Jedi Temple (operation knightfall). Like killing Jocasta Nu, fighting Cin Drallig and his apprentice, etc.
In a way, what happened to Anakin on Mustafar, was justice for all the sick things he did, and being consumed by his selfishness. I still believe the Jedi way of no attachment, and keeping knowledge away from their students did Anakin no favors in healing him from his past. But one cannot deny that Anakin’s desperation and selfishness caused his own downfall, and put him right back into a life of slavery… albeit he was a powerful slave.
Back onto a life of slavery. Is that an original thought? I've never thought of it like that, but now I've heard it, I agree & I doubt I'll ever forget it thinking of vader now.
@@leighlowe1069 It was my original summation after reading the books and tallying the totality of his life. It would seem that he was always in subservience to someone after the Jedi failed him in my view.
I wonder if we’ll see Ahsoka looking at Operation: Knightfall in a vision within the World Between Worlds, that would just be insane. 🤯
Just a reused clip from the Obi-Wan series
SWBF2 2005 has amazing mods of Operation “Knightfall” - balanced damage of blasters and lightsabers, BIG main hall map with default chambers map, STUNNING music of John Williams, crowds with blasters against crowds with lightsabers and realistically UNBEATABLE representation of early Lord Vader (he can beat three padawans with one saber throw).
I cant stop playing this masterpiece over and over again.
“Master Skywalker, can my surprise simply be a hug?”
2:41 That was a savage move that Vader did.
Yep, pretty fucked. Crazy how fast he went from savior to heartless psychopath. Honestly I think killing Palpatine to save his own son wasn’t enough to redeem him and allow him to rejoin the Force, since saving one’s child is inherently self serving too.
I always wanted to see Cin Drallig vs Anakin in live action or even clone wars animation.
I wonder what the duel between Vader and Palpatine would have been like if Vader had defeated Obi-Wan.
He might have done about as well as Mace Windu. But I've always been convinced that it would have taken both Anakin and Obi-Wan to defeat Palpatine. It's also very possible one of them would be killed, in the process.
I wish we could see just how betrayed all the jedi in the temple felt seeing anakin, the poster child of the clone wars, hero of the galaxy, chosen one, murdering their friends and colleagues
This would have never happened, if Obi Wan Kenobi joined Count Dooku when he had the chance.
apparently 200000000 jedi survived. We just don't know of them yet. They will be added on each game that comes out.
I always wondered why Vader didn't employ droids to record/ steal vital records of the Jedi and collect even the restricted artifacts for himself and put everything somewhere he could access later and hide it from Palpatine.
Gut wrenching 😮
Til this day, the ROTS game and BTF 2 (2005) are the only Star Wars content to extensively cover the assault on the temple. If Disney ever does a Vader Series (which I highly doubt) this should definitely be covered.
Siderant: I always hated the Jedi with the double bladed sabers in the Rots game. They were VERY annoying to beat. I was relieved when I finally finished the level.
Part of this just doesn’t feel right. Why would he carry out all of these terrible deeds if he “knew Sidious couldn’t save Padme?” I thought the whole point was that he truly believed it and didn’t want to commit these horrible acts but did so in hopes of being able to save his wife? Him doing these things so easily and without hesitation immediately thinking about rising to power as opposed to saving padme makes me feel much less remorseful for Anakin if that is accurate
In “Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader,” it’s explained that Anakin knew Palpatine was lying and manipulating him, but he was already too far gone to turn back. So he followed the orders to destroy the Jedi simply to get them out of the way for his own benefit. He planned to kill Palpatine immediately and then rule the galaxy with Padmé anyway, as soon as he learned how to keep her from dying. It’s also mentioned in the Revenge of the Sith novelization how Anakin was imagining killing Palpatine on Mustafar. But obviously, everything went sideways when Obi-Wan showed up with Padmé.
Yeah go through all that bs just to force choke her himself ‘you turned her against me' for a jedi knight his mind was easily manipulated
The Dark Side literally corrupts the mind. He was enraged and believed Padmé had betrayed him.
Would love to see an EU of if Anakin didn't lose to obi wan and could implement his plans.
supposedly this will happen in ashoka... but don't hold your breath that its going to be good... its likely going to be done in a way to make ashoka the chosen one.
Operation Knightfall was so sad
“Planned to kill Palpatine …” Goodluck with that … Sideous may not of known his motivation for destroying the temple but he knew of his plan to attack him after and welcomed it, that’s cannon.
In which book does it describe anakin using force lightining in the jedi temple???? in the movie rots they say palpatine couldnt teach him cuz things needed to move quickly ????
Hommie sounds like Michael J Fox
I would've loved for them to have put all of this in rots and i personally would've thought it would've been better if ahsoka's cruiser made it to courascant and makes her way to the temple then aniken starts his siege and she has to have a face off with him
ashoka was never in the picture when ROTS came out.
@@highlanderc i know that,I watched all the movies
He took on the name Darth Vader he is still Anakin Skywalker Anakin Skywalker is his true identity
Rots game is gire🔥 nice video
Say you are really good at researching this. Do you know who except Padmé and Qui Gon's ghost knows what Anakin did to the Tusken in Attack of the Clones? I mean slaughtering a village including the women and children should be something that a Jedi would cost everything right?
How did the clone troopers know that Anakin wasn't a target? I am assuming that order 66 was implanted into the clones long before Anakin became Vader. Could the clones somehow sense who was a Jedi and who wasn't?
They were likely given direct orders from Palpatine informing them that Vader was not a Jedi and to listen to his orders on the battlefield as long as they didn't contradict his own.
I’m sure there’s some retconned reasoning. Originally, the clones didn’t have inhibitor chips, they just followed orders. In the Legends book “Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader,” it’s blatantly stated that they didn’t have chips and that some clones disobeyed Order 66 because they liked their Jedi friends. The whole inhibitor chip thing was introduced a few years later in The Clone Wars
In the Chip arc in the Clone Wars Series Tups Chip malfunction and it caused him to execute Tiplee and nearly kill Tiplar but spared Anakin so the Clones were programmed to ignore Anakin but kill the other Jedi
Evil will get it's due justice...
ROtS video game what what 🤙
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@@fancytracy In the RoTS video game (came out on OG Xbox in 2005) it has quite a bit of content revolving around anakins rampage in the Jedi Temple (operation knightfall). Like killing Jocasta Nu, fighting Cin Drallig and his apprentice, etc.
The video game is not canon. The librarian survived Operation Knightfall
@@rob-artfarmingnz6138 the comic books. Specifically the Darth Vader comics.