@@andrewstoakes8034 Poles decrypted Enigma in 1936. Following concept from 1932. Well, Turing automated work that was given him from Polish Cipher bearau.
Not true. He had an argument with Wittgenstein whom he felt was "wrong headed" about a particular concept. Where Wittgenstein was wrong led Turing to a crucial breakthrough in breaking the enigma code. A similar scenario led Edward Teller after an argument with Stanislaw Ulam to the crucial insight needed to develop the hydrogen bomb.
Not true. He had an argument with Wittgenstein whom he felt was "wrong headed" about a particular concept. Where Wittgenstein was wrong led Turing to a crucial breakthrough in breaking the enigma code. A similar scenario led Edward Teller after an argument with Stanislaw Ulam to the crucial insight needed to develop the hydrogen bomb.
The polish cracked the 1st enigma but the germans add more wheels to it and changed the decode keys daily making its harder. The enigma Turing broke the code for not broken by the Polish. broke
It was unjust what they did, but not a 'crime.' Legal codes, and all that. Remember, he was pardoned, not exonerated. You don't pardon someone who's not guilty.
@@-Mushroom_Kid- If by "crime" you mean the legally codified crime, as in unlawful illegal activity, then yes, you are correct. If by crime you mean the general social construct, the idea of what a crime should be ideally, an immoral, unethical act for which's execution the individual will receive some sort of punishment from the collective, then no, you are wrong.
@gilbertwoodward75 One was not aware that this was a contest... but here goes! In 1952, Alan Turing was prosecuted for homosexual acts. He "agreed" to hormone treatment, in other words, chemical castration. A truly dreadful experience which ruined him physically and broke him mentally. In 1954, he was found dead from cyanide poisoning. In the Having a Sh*t Day Olympics - he wins!!!
It is so heartbreaking how horrifically Alan Turing was treated after the war. He was chemically castrated, beaten and imprisoned for being gay. He is literally a nation and international hero that was a huge part of the west winning the war.
Yes. Soo elegant and regal and charming with so much presence. I know lots of older ppl want to be young but for me, even tho I’m an early Millennial,I’m so grateful I’m getting older. They don’t make men like these two anymore. These new kids are complete opposites due to rigorous cultural retraining, of yesteryear gentlemen.
There was some interview with Peter Dinklage, where he said that Sir Charles Dance kept apologising to him, for how Tywin treated Tyrion, he's truly a kind soul 🥰
The Poles didn't think it was unbreakable, they even partially broke an early version. They just didn't have the resources or freedom to keep working on it.
Dear or dear, If you didn't exist, then most of the Jews who escaped sobibor would not have been handed over to the ss for money. If you didn't exist, then the early post war polish pogroms against the Jews in which hundreds of Jewish survivors died. If you didn't exist, then the mass graves of Jews in Poland would not have been disturbed by scum looking for rings and teeth. Need I go on?
@@Necris94 Not really the case, but some people are just dumb. I am well aware that the Polish Cypher Office studied the machines and did early research on them - they even evacuated some out to the UK before Poland fell so that the work could continue. Without the Polish contribution it would have taken a lot longer or not been possible. I think saying the Brits don't acknowledge your existence is harsh too - the UK literally declared war because of the invasion of it's ally, Poland. So, I, for one, am aware of this history and contribution and even as a Brit myself, I always acknowledge the Polish effort in this undertaking.
Although, sadly, even today if you take tests to screen for mental illness and truthfully answer questions about whether you think you are smarter than those around you, they will diagnose you as mentally ill (with a Cluster B disorder). Those tests are clearly not made for anyone who is extremely intelligent.
@@teresasanders2064 actually it is. The definition off bragging does not differentiate between people who are being accurate about their abilities, just the amount of effort they put into expressing their own greatness.
One of the greatest minds of the 20th century treated rudely by ignorants. What a shame that Alan Turing had to suffer so much while giving the world so much.
But the way he played Turing in this really wasn’t. In reality, the man wasn’t only a hero and a genius but also a renowned socialite - not the awkward Holmes-esque caricature portrayed by Cumberbatch.
@@willemvandeursen3105 That was Jeffrey Jones - they resembled each other when they were younger, but Dance aged more gracefully in every way. I also would have sworn it was Dance in Howard The Duck.
@@maus-v1the was directing the team and is the genius behind the Turing machine, that was finally good enough with captured enigma and known code to decode and save hundreds or even thousands of allied seamen.
@@floriandiefenthaler2553 it didn't save thousands, as the Germans changed their encryption methods shortly after. the whole story is blown out of proportion.
Naaah, what do you mean, he was only CHEMICALLY NEUTERED FOR BEING GAY, GOT ALL HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS REVOKED AND WAS ONLY PARDONED DECADES AFTER HE COMMITTED SUICIDE BECAUSE OF IT.
@@RaccooniusIII sorry, I was raised in a country who's first and foremost law is that the dignity and life of a human being is the most important thing, and things like this, in countries like the UK, enrage me
I DEEPLY doubt Turing would have been as "movie-rude" as this character is. Or such an arrogant smart-ass. This is the movie way of showing someone is intelligent. I've known a lot of professors of Biology & been a contract one myself and the only ones who act like this are jerks or how are self-deceivers who've seen "smart" people depicted like this This is the sort of character that is given to Holmes or House.
Enigma wasn't even half the story, Mav Neuman's team broke the far more important code and ended the war with a number of colossus machines, the worlds first programmable electronic computer, built by Tommy Flowers, a GPO engineer. But then Hollywood isn't interested in letting the facts spoil a good story.
@@scotttaylor-u5e yes. Sad. He learned his dad was a murderer President.,that had mineral rights to most gold ,oil and silver. Texas politicians basically but mu paternal grandfather ‘s head off and dumped ihim in a hole on property that belongs to Kenneth Copeland. He wrote most of the very first computer language. Started Tandy computers. Owned half of Tandy leather which owned Texas Instruments. He. Had dozens of patents.
@@JamesLeeHallmy grandfather is Kenneth Copeland and there’s no bodies buried on any of his land. In 1903 a geological survey was done on the grounds and found no bodies or the portals to hell they were looking for.
This really came at a good time. Growing up unintentionally emotionally neglected and using my identity as a smart kid as an excuse for why I have trouble connecting with people has led me down the egoistic path. No wonder I never understood why people enjoy football games or group hugs. Now I can finally allow myself to get lost and have fun. Thank you for this video.
Alan Turing was one of the founding fathers of modern Information Technology. A one in a Billion mind. A genius and from what i've read, a fun eccentric. And after his astounding work on the decoding of the enigma machine, and thus playing a big part in ending the 2nd world war, he was convicted and, basically, physically abused because he decided to come out as gay. His work was put on hold for years and he suffered because of who he was. I ain't gay or lgbt in any way, but fucking hell, just let people like what they like if it's not hurting anyone. I bet technology would be a good chunk more different nowadays if people didn't deem him a criminal for being gay.
Why do you feel it’s been “ crammed down your throat”? Most of Society still hasn’t learned and that’s why this man chose to express it, which is in fact the point of the comment section.
@@claudiomarangone614 As in no one needs to know. What you do in your personal space and privacy should stay there. Anything else is 100% cramming down everyone else' throat. This was actually the basis for Daffyd Thomas, the homosexual homophobe, in Little Britain. He literally would open with how gay he was when it has zero bearing on what was happening. Just don't forget, "He's the only gay in the village.". Seriously, Lucas and Williams called it out so brilliantly it's a shame Little Britain didn't get more popular, it might have nipped this nonsense in the bud.
@@claudiomarangone614 celebrating homosexuality is now the norm from lots of msm. Not me, tolerance yes but keep your sex life in the bedroom. No reason to celebrate homosexuality. Tolerance but thinking about it disgusts me.
They do not discard him - they castrated him because he was Gay and drove him to suicide for noone having a chance to get their Hands on him - while destroying the Machine thatcracked all Codes because they could not accept that the Race between Key and Lock is an endless one and decrypting is harder than enrcypting and that this Machine could be used the other Way round, would have given Britian the advantage in the Spy Game and Computing. They literally killed their leading Role in that Branch that had made them leading the modern World because of Homophobia. Ada Lovelace was ignored because of Misogynie. Fits. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
Stalin created a second purge of many of his generals and officers post wwii. Don't remember him being a capitalist. What happened to Turing had nothing to do with Capitalism.
by "unbreakable" they meant in a timely manner, Enigma has thousands of possible pattern combination, and it changes daily by the time one message is broken the information had long become irrelevant, and the pattern of the code changes on the daily making it impossible to break it in a timely manner.
Alan Turing greatest achievement wasn't that he broke the Enigma code, but rather the Turing machine itself, even after 80Years we still couldn't surpass the Turin machine and likely never will. Everything that you can do on a modern computer and your phone, can be replicated in the Turing machine (you may need millions of them, but you can do it) because the core foundation of the modern computer is the Turing machine, and the CPU & GPU are just rocks with millions of transistors printed on them.
@@Glmorrs1 nearly everyone. There is a plaque a Bletchley Park commemorating their work. The British mathematicians knew how important that work was, even if everyone else has forgotten about it.
@@Glmorrs1Literally no they don't. Half the comments in here are pointing out Polish involvement (and generally misrepresenting their involvement). How are they "left out"???
This dude saved hundreds of thousands of lives maybe more with what he made as some of the stuff he thought of and designed is still used today. Terrible how he was treated... so so terrible
only POS posters do that shit. It's to get clicks for content. I just click the three dots and click DO NOT RECCOMEND THIS CHANNEL. They don't deserve the clicks for their stolen content.
@@Whoami691invented the cracking method. Turing did amazing job in optimisation and upscaling. But he didn't start from nothing. It's amazing to make a glass factory knowing only sand, but if you know how to make glass, it's then it's a different story.
@@Whoami691 He only copied their whole design and - with British means that Poland didn't have - built a bigger version of it. The codes keep changing all the time. I thought everyone was aware of that...
"wanting to do the best he could for his king and country" Not really, at least according to this movie. He had little regard for king and country but loved the idea of breaking Enigma.
A sequence from the movie "The Imitation Game (2014)"....Charles Dance, a great actor, together with the younger actor Benedict Cumberbatch, who is in a role that suits him perfectly...
He made me cry at the end of this movie. He helped save the world and they were absolutely terrible to him after what he went through. I felt so bad for Alan for days after seeing this movie.
@@myleg4857 The Imitation Game The Imitation Game is a 2014 American period biographical thriller film directed by Morten Tyldum and written by Graham Moore, based on the 1983 biography Alan Turing: The Enigma by Andrew Hodges. The Imitation Game - Wikipedia Wikipedia
The Polish ran out of time with enigma and were slaughtered by the Nazis. They gave enigma to the British for save keeping. Brave men and women with courage and light in their hearts did rid the world of evil and darkness.
My Grandmother was stationed at Bletchley Park for the entire war... She kept quiet for 30 years after the war ended ...as she had to sign the official secrets act... Apparently she was a superb typist ... It was quite a place ... Cracking the codes was as important as D Day ....
Every time I watch a British show set in the late 40s or early 50s, and the actor offhandedly says, " Oh, I worked in a place called Bletchley Park." my hair stands on end.
@@PA_Sword She was just one of many girls sat next to each other all day and night typing out the decrypted and non decrypted messages and passing them on... Apparently they were not allowed to converse with each other at all about what each of them were doing...Nan was Apparently involved with allied and Japanese messaging...But that's all I know for certain....The girls sat either side etc ,could have been doing German, Italian etc...They had to prevent the passage of information from one another, as there were real German agents in the country at the time...all hush hush for real...Over 10,000 served there during the war ,which was way more than I'd ever imagined...The girls were picked for speed and accuracy in typing...and they basically took a written note or something, and put it down on paper... Bless her ...We traced her at Bletchley and have now bought a memorial brick with her name etc ,and it's on the memorial wall there now...
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Just to clarify....The English got enigma machine from Poles with Bomba....machine that was decrypting Enigma messages. THE ENGLISH LIE AS USUAL AND USE MOVIES TO DO THAT> Also....as far as D-Day Polish intelligence provided the allies with technical drawings of German Atlantic Wall fortifications before D-Day thanks to this man: Kazimierz Leski, nom de guerre Bradl (21 June 1912 - 27 May 2000), was a Polish engineer, co-designer of the Polish submarines ORP Sęp (1938) and ORP Orzeł, a fighter pilot, and an officer in World War II Home Army's intelligence and counter-intelligence. He is credited, during World War II, with at least 25 journeys across German-held Europe, usually in the uniform of a Wehrmacht Major General.
Cumberbatch sure is a brilliant actor. He absorbs the very soul of his character. There are quite a few actors who can do this, but it still is rare. All actors have their unique way of becoming a character and are so talented. :)🎭🎭🎭🎭🎭🎭
Nikola Tesla was one of the world's greatest geniuses. He discovered alternating current and that's why we're writing on our laptops/computers right now. He died in poverty. Alan Turing should never have been treated so horrible. People can be so unbelievable biased and stupid.
This was a fantastic story about the man that created the basis for every computer system's we have today. It's also heartbreaking, the way he was treated and forced to take certain medications that lead him to take his own life. They treated him like a deviant offender and destroyed the mind of a genius all because of his personal life. He saved thousands of lives and created the first computer and the mechanical engineering version of A.i. He was rewarded with being physically and emotionally destroyed due to the attitudes of the times.
Not true, he didn't make the first computer, nor is his work the basis of all computers, there were many people involved in the creation of the modern computer.
Not true, he didn't make the first computer, nor is his work the basis of all computers, there were many people involved in the creation of the modern computer.
Such a superior mind was lost because of homophobia. He helped win the war - imagine what else he could have accomplished. He died at 41. Some humans are too cruel.
The crime against humanity, that was exerted towards Allan is appalling! UK legislation officials should forever be ashamed of ever having been a part of mistreat a genius like him!
Turing's proclivities were known and tolerated. He screwed himself by picking up an underage kid who robbed his house while he was at work thinking no civil servant would report the petty thefts. But Turing did report it and the kid pointed the finger at Turing for buggery on an underage boy. He was offered a deferred sentence instead of prison which he accepted. Now tell us how God and Christian beliefs mistreated him. Do you believe in sex with children? Turing's lack of judgment is shocking even with enlightened views on homosexuality.
@@jmz388 10% of humanity is homosexual. I am quite certain that most of them had no saying int he outcome! Blaming and medicating them wont change their nature.
Alan Turing saved thousands of lives, shortened the war, arguably won the war, and was treated horribly after the war. He should have been cannonized, at the very least knighted. Great scene.
The movie was marvelous, exceptional. Well acted, the story was sorrowful, yet uplifting because of who he was, and what he was all about! He was treated poorly, but his legacy is positive and enduring.❤❤❤❤
This movie was far from reality, I feel sorry for how Alan was treated but he was FAR from the only person to crack the enigma machine. There were entire teams working on it. A massive team effort. Not just him.
I luuuurv CUMBER!! His acting is top notch. Adore him as Sherlock! Star Wars he was superb! The Tinker, Tailor series magnificent - & he’s on my list for watching this super film!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
The Imitation Game (2014) is one of the best films ever made. Benedict Cumberbatch gave a masterly performance. The only reason he did not win the Academy Award? Eddie Redmayne as Stephen Hawking in the Theory of Everything... what an impossible choice! And what did they both teach us (Turing and Hawking)? Entropy isn't what it used to be.
How come nobody's thanking you for the title of the movie?! I just spent 5 minutes waiting for this dumbass comments and I don't even know the name of the movie that looks so good. Thank you so much for your post! 💪👍
Good job that Polish didn't think that Enigma is unbreakable... 😂😂😂. And yes, those mathematicians had to speak very good German and know how Germans behave to be able to break it. And it was achieved in 1932.
@@davidfarrer4332 superiority? You clearly haven't been able to pull your head out of your own ass then, because "great" Britain is pretty much as bad as America, if not worse in certain facets
Polish mathematicians cracked Enigma. Turing created a machine that allowed this knowledge to be used to decode German messages fast enough to be useful to fighting armies.
To say brilliant isn't correct. His imagination let him infer the consequences of computation and how that relates to humanity at fundamental levels....it's amazing
Kudos to the british for breaking the late enigma code. Kudos to the polish for breaking an earlier version of the enigma code. But also kudos to the germans for ever coming up with such a genius designe!
Fantastic movie, fantastic acting. It's tragic what happened to Turing. However he is credited for his work on Enigma which shortened the war by 2 years and saved millions of lives.
Great movie. Based on a the true story of the Allies struggle to break the German encryption code during WW2. Turing was KEY in breaking ENIGMA and giving the Allies the upper hand in the war. Damn shame how they did him though, Fr. 😕😕
The Poles actually technically broke the ENIGMA code, first -- the Army ENIGMA code, that is. What Turing helped crack was the Navy's ENIGMA code, which was used on machines with 8 rotors, while the Army code ran on 5 rotor machines, making the former orders of magnitude harder to crack than the latter.
Alan Turing and his story- the genius he was, what he created, and the horrors he was subjected to for being who he was- must be taught in schools. He deserves to be remembered and acknowledged. The man was the father of computer science, for Pete's sake.
Once republicans do away with the Department of Ed and shift everything to home schooling where the approved online curriculum has a Christian focus teaching his story is not something that will happen
Alan played a huge role in winning WW2! A gay man who was treated horribly by The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Let that fact never be forgotten!
@@patrickvolk7031 The Turing Test came after WW2 in the context of a BBC programme. However, before WW2 he had not only devised the Turing Machine, he had built a reputation at Cambridge and Princeton. When the government tried to recruit "people of the professor type" he was high up the list.
The polish didn't think it was impossible, kudos to them.
Too true they were years ahead of us in '38 and gave us a massive leg up.
@@andrewstoakes8034 Poles decrypted Enigma in 1936. Following concept from 1932. Well, Turing automated work that was given him from Polish Cipher bearau.
Not true. He had an argument with Wittgenstein whom he felt was "wrong headed" about a particular concept. Where Wittgenstein was wrong led Turing to a crucial breakthrough in breaking the enigma code. A similar scenario led Edward Teller after an argument with Stanislaw Ulam to the crucial insight needed to develop the hydrogen bomb.
Not true. He had an argument with Wittgenstein whom he felt was "wrong headed" about a particular concept. Where Wittgenstein was wrong led Turing to a crucial breakthrough in breaking the enigma code. A similar scenario led Edward Teller after an argument with Stanislaw Ulam to the crucial insight needed to develop the hydrogen bomb.
The polish cracked the 1st enigma but the germans add more wheels to it and changed the decode keys daily making its harder. The enigma Turing broke the code for not broken by the Polish.
broke
Alan Turing was a rare genius. How the British state "rewarded" him was a disgusting crime.
It was unjust what they did, but not a 'crime.' Legal codes, and all that. Remember, he was pardoned, not exonerated. You don't pardon someone who's not guilty.
@@Deridus Not all crimes are illegal.
@@marx3483huh?
@@marx3483not all crimes are *immoral*
@@-Mushroom_Kid- If by "crime" you mean the legally codified crime, as in unlawful illegal activity, then yes, you are correct.
If by crime you mean the general social construct, the idea of what a crime should be ideally, an immoral, unethical act for which's execution the individual will receive some sort of punishment from the collective, then no, you are wrong.
What they did to this hero is a effin disgrace
AGRED
Blame "god"
@@wesleywesolowski3236agerd!!
What they did to Oppenheimer was worse. After he delivered the A Bomb they called him a spy.
@gilbertwoodward75 One was not aware that this was a contest... but here goes! In 1952, Alan Turing was prosecuted for homosexual acts. He "agreed" to hormone treatment, in other words, chemical castration. A truly dreadful experience which ruined him physically and broke him mentally. In 1954, he was found dead from cyanide poisoning.
In the Having a Sh*t Day Olympics - he wins!!!
Another phantastic acoustic and visual treasure....Thanks alot, Mark 🇨🇦
So cool to see Tywin Lanister and Doctor Strange collaborating together!!
nice
*sherlock holmes
I was just thinking the same 🤣🤣🤣
@@RPCentral7Lannister, if you’re being being pedantic.
For Real ! What's the name of the series, please tell me
Two Brilliant actors , two brilliant voices
IKR! I could listen to these 2 banter all day! 😊
U r definitely a gentleman and a scholar. ❤
They should be narrating. We'd all have PhDs@@JFlyer1973
What’s better is that Benedict Cumberbatch was an actual blood relative/descendant of Alan Turing, this was slightly a personal and family project
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It is so heartbreaking how horrifically Alan Turing was treated after the war. He was chemically castrated, beaten and imprisoned for being gay. He is literally a nation and international hero that was a huge part of the west winning the war.
What's the title
@@ThisOnome “The Imitation Game” (2014).
Agreed!!!!!!
That is British for you without a Constitution in some ways worse against their own people, than the Germans they were fighting.
He shouldn't have broken the law.
Charles Dance reminds me a lot of Christopher Lee (RIP). Two incredibly talented actors.
Yes. Soo elegant and regal and charming with so much presence. I know lots of older ppl want to be young but for me, even tho I’m an early Millennial,I’m so grateful I’m getting older. They don’t make men like these two anymore. These new kids are complete opposites due to rigorous cultural retraining, of yesteryear gentlemen.
I thought Russia defeated Germany in wwii
Did you see him in White Mischief??
Charles Dance could read the phone book and jt would be compelling.
Very similar style of speaking, if I wasn't seeing the video I would've thought its Christopher Lee
I am convinced he is tywin Lannister in real life as well
Benedict cumberbatch isn’t a dwarf😂😅
that makes no sense? Tywin is Charles Dance. Not Tyrion, the dwarf.@@manbearpig882
Nipsi from Eddy Murphy Golden Child . Makes a good demon
@@manbearpig882 Tywin, not Tyrion. And the OP is referring to the Major interviewing Turing who, in fact, played as Tywin
There was some interview with Peter Dinklage, where he said that Sir Charles Dance kept apologising to him, for how Tywin treated Tyrion, he's truly a kind soul 🥰
The Poles didn't think it was unbreakable, they even partially broke an early version. They just didn't have the resources or freedom to keep working on it.
BS!Neither did the Polish ever HAVE an Enigma,they just suspected how it worked;but where nowhere near a Kriegsmarine Enigma and it's function!
Every clip from this film has 1,000 dunderheads wave the Pole flag. Shesh
@@ronj9448 Do you really find it so surprising, when the fucking british act as we don't exist?
Dear or dear,
If you didn't exist, then most of the Jews who escaped sobibor would not have been handed over to the ss for money.
If you didn't exist, then the early post war polish pogroms against the Jews in which hundreds of Jewish survivors died.
If you didn't exist, then the mass graves of Jews in Poland would not have been disturbed by scum looking for rings and teeth.
Need I go on?
@@Necris94 Not really the case, but some people are just dumb. I am well aware that the Polish Cypher Office studied the machines and did early research on them - they even evacuated some out to the UK before Poland fell so that the work could continue. Without the Polish contribution it would have taken a lot longer or not been possible. I think saying the Brits don't acknowledge your existence is harsh too - the UK literally declared war because of the invasion of it's ally, Poland. So, I, for one, am aware of this history and contribution and even as a Brit myself, I always acknowledge the Polish effort in this undertaking.
It's not a crime to be confident in one's own abilities if they're justified.
Although, sadly, even today if you take tests to screen for mental illness and truthfully answer questions about whether you think you are smarter than those around you, they will diagnose you as mentally ill (with a Cluster B disorder). Those tests are clearly not made for anyone who is extremely intelligent.
No one has ever in the history of man claimed it as a crime. What are you blathering about.
@MiningForPies he's trying to sound deep.
It’s not bragging if you can back it up.
@@teresasanders2064 actually it is.
The definition off bragging does not differentiate between people who are being accurate about their abilities, just the amount of effort they put into expressing their own greatness.
One of the greatest minds of the 20th century treated rudely by ignorants. What a shame that Alan Turing had to suffer so much while giving the world so much.
Charles Dance is overwhelmingly divine - Benedict is always genuine pure gold ✨️ such talent
I saw Dance for the first time in 'Amadeus', as the Austrian Emperor. And my head went "goinnnnng"
His presence is earth shattering no matter what role he’s playing, Charles is definitely in my top 5 all time greats
AGREE!!!!!!❤️ Did you watch him in Phantom of the opera? Simply awesome.
But the way he played Turing in this really wasn’t. In reality, the man wasn’t only a hero and a genius but also a renowned socialite - not the awkward Holmes-esque caricature portrayed by Cumberbatch.
@@willemvandeursen3105 That was Jeffrey Jones - they resembled each other when they were younger, but Dance aged more gracefully in every way. I also would have sworn it was Dance in Howard The Duck.
Both great actors.
Sad what happened to Mr. Turing after the war, tragic really.
Hi, agreed, we humans can be so inhumane.
No, it wasn't all that tragic, because his supervisors literally begged him to stop loitering in public toilets. He knew the risks.
@@pdmacguire Have a heart.
@@pkassieswhat does truth have to do with not having a heart?
@@thelmadickinson6811Are all laws moral?
Alan Turing was brilliant. Even brilliant is an understatement.
The British government forced him to have a chemical castration and from there his life went downhill.
not even close, there were many who worked on the project. he wasn't unique.
@@maus-v1t Allen Turing was brilliant. Period.
@@maus-v1the was directing the team and is the genius behind the Turing machine, that was finally good enough with captured enigma and known code to decode and save hundreds or even thousands of allied seamen.
@@floriandiefenthaler2553 it didn't save thousands, as the Germans changed their encryption methods shortly after. the whole story is blown out of proportion.
"let me try and we'll know for sure" absolutely incredible
How he was treated after the war is one of our most shameful moments
Treated him like a black man
Naaah, what do you mean, he was only CHEMICALLY NEUTERED FOR BEING GAY, GOT ALL HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS REVOKED AND WAS ONLY PARDONED DECADES AFTER HE COMMITTED SUICIDE BECAUSE OF IT.
@@kikikillian1208chiII weird0.
@@RaccooniusIII sorry, I was raised in a country who's first and foremost law is that the dignity and life of a human being is the most important thing, and things like this, in countries like the UK, enrage me
Womp womp
Don't be gay don't be a sinner
B. Cumberbatch is magnificent in this role!
He sucked. Watch Enigma
But still not as good as Alex Lawther as his mini-version.
I DEEPLY doubt Turing would have been as "movie-rude" as this character is. Or such an arrogant smart-ass. This is the movie way of showing someone is intelligent. I've known a lot of professors of Biology & been a contract one myself and the only ones who act like this are jerks or how are self-deceivers who've seen "smart" people depicted like this This is the sort of character that is given to Holmes or House.
@@granthurlburt4062 I agree. If you like Turing you may want to see the movie enigma, its much better than the other one
@@planes3333 yeah sucked the boaby
He didn't do it alone , however one of the brightest minds we have ever witnessed
Enigma wasn't even half the story, Mav Neuman's team broke the far more important code and ended the war with a number of colossus machines, the worlds first programmable electronic computer, built by Tommy Flowers, a GPO engineer.
But then Hollywood isn't interested in letting the facts spoil a good story.
My dad was one of the brightest minds the world has ever had;he was murdered in 1998
@@JamesLeeHallfor real? 😢
@@scotttaylor-u5e yes. Sad. He learned his dad was a murderer President.,that had mineral rights to most gold ,oil and silver. Texas politicians basically but mu paternal grandfather ‘s head off and dumped ihim in a hole on property that belongs to Kenneth Copeland. He wrote most of the very first computer language. Started Tandy computers. Owned half of Tandy leather which owned Texas Instruments. He. Had dozens of patents.
@@JamesLeeHallmy grandfather is Kenneth Copeland and there’s no bodies buried on any of his land. In 1903 a geological survey was done on the grounds and found no bodies or the portals to hell they were looking for.
This really came at a good time. Growing up unintentionally emotionally neglected and using my identity as a smart kid as an excuse for why I have trouble connecting with people has led me down the egoistic path. No wonder I never understood why people enjoy football games or group hugs. Now I can finally allow myself to get lost and have fun. Thank you for this video.
Alan Turing was one of the founding fathers of modern Information Technology. A one in a Billion mind. A genius and from what i've read, a fun eccentric.
And after his astounding work on the decoding of the enigma machine, and thus playing a big part in ending the 2nd world war, he was convicted and, basically, physically abused because he decided to come out as gay.
His work was put on hold for years and he suffered because of who he was.
I ain't gay or lgbt in any way, but fucking hell, just let people like what they like if it's not hurting anyone. I bet technology would be a good chunk more different nowadays if people didn't deem him a criminal for being gay.
Understand. But that speech is so tired.
I agree love who you want as long as it's mutual. Just don't try to cram your beliefs down my throat.
Why do you feel it’s been “
crammed down your throat”?
Most of Society still hasn’t learned and that’s why this man chose to express it, which is in fact the point of the comment section.
@@claudiomarangone614 As in no one needs to know. What you do in your personal space and privacy should stay there. Anything else is 100% cramming down everyone else' throat. This was actually the basis for Daffyd Thomas, the homosexual homophobe, in Little Britain. He literally would open with how gay he was when it has zero bearing on what was happening.
Just don't forget, "He's the only gay in the village.". Seriously, Lucas and Williams called it out so brilliantly it's a shame Little Britain didn't get more popular, it might have nipped this nonsense in the bud.
@@claudiomarangone614 celebrating homosexuality is now the norm from lots of msm. Not me, tolerance yes but keep your sex life in the bedroom. No reason to celebrate homosexuality. Tolerance but thinking about it disgusts me.
Then after they use him, they discarded him. That is the military and the government for you.
he was discarded because he was gay -- i know 50 million americans that would gladly do that to him too.
It is a very common thing in western armies. Use and trow away after using.
@@orenrachamim1594thats part of capitalism.
They do not discard him - they castrated him because he was Gay and drove him to suicide for noone having a chance to get their Hands on him - while destroying the Machine thatcracked all Codes because they could not accept that the Race between Key and Lock is an endless one and decrypting is harder than enrcypting and that this Machine could be used the other Way round, would have given Britian the advantage in the Spy Game and Computing.
They literally killed their leading Role in that Branch that had made them leading the modern World because of Homophobia.
Ada Lovelace was ignored because of Misogynie.
Fits.
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
Stalin created a second purge of many of his generals and officers post wwii. Don't remember him being a capitalist.
What happened to Turing had nothing to do with Capitalism.
"Everyone thinks Enigma is unbreakable."
The Poles didn't. Polish mathematicians did the first serious work on Enigma.
by "unbreakable" they meant in a timely manner, Enigma has thousands of possible pattern combination, and it changes daily by the time one message is broken the information had long become irrelevant, and the pattern of the code changes on the daily making it impossible to break it in a timely manner.
Alan Turing greatest achievement wasn't that he broke the Enigma code, but rather the Turing machine itself, even after 80Years we still couldn't surpass the Turin machine and likely never will. Everything that you can do on a modern computer and your phone, can be replicated in the Turing machine (you may need millions of them, but you can do it) because the core foundation of the modern computer is the Turing machine, and the CPU & GPU are just rocks with millions of transistors printed on them.
Their early work was crucial to finally cracking it, and everybody always leaves them out of the story. It’s a shame.
@@Glmorrs1 nearly everyone. There is a plaque a Bletchley Park commemorating their work. The British mathematicians knew how important that work was, even if everyone else has forgotten about it.
@@Glmorrs1Literally no they don't. Half the comments in here are pointing out Polish involvement (and generally misrepresenting their involvement).
How are they "left out"???
This dude saved hundreds of thousands of lives maybe more with what he made as some of the stuff he thought of and designed is still used today. Terrible how he was treated... so so terrible
It should be against youtubes rules to post scenes of movies without even giving the name of the film.
only POS posters do that shit.
It's to get clicks for content.
I just click the three dots and click DO NOT RECCOMEND THIS CHANNEL.
They don't deserve the clicks for their stolen content.
Agreed. I have to search or read comments just to find out the titles.
The Immitation Game
Brillient
Thank you, so much!
is it really that impossible to do some research on your own to discover it for yourself? it would take literally a quick minute.
Everybody thought it was impossible to break the enigma but for the polish it was necessary and they took the first steps
POLES DID NOT BREAK THE CODE , THEY BUILT THE MECHANISM
They broke the old code not the new one
@@Whoami691invented the cracking method. Turing did amazing job in optimisation and upscaling. But he didn't start from nothing.
It's amazing to make a glass factory knowing only sand, but if you know how to make glass, it's then it's a different story.
@@Whoami691 He only copied their whole design and - with British means that Poland didn't have - built a bigger version of it.
The codes keep changing all the time. I thought everyone was aware of that...
We should be forever thankful he was on our side wanting to do the best he could for his king and country
"wanting to do the best he could for his king and country"
Not really, at least according to this movie. He had little regard for king and country but loved the idea of breaking Enigma.
Movie is called... THE IMMITATION GAME
A sequence from the movie "The Imitation Game (2014)"....Charles Dance, a great actor, together with the younger actor Benedict Cumberbatch, who is in a role that suits him perfectly...
He made me cry at the end of this movie. He helped save the world and they were absolutely terrible to him after what he went through. I felt so bad for Alan for days after seeing this movie.
movie name?
@@myleg4857 The Imitation Game
@@myleg4857 The immitation game
@@myleg4857 the imitation game
@@myleg4857 The Imitation Game
The Imitation Game is a 2014 American period biographical thriller film directed by Morten Tyldum and written by Graham Moore, based on the 1983 biography Alan Turing: The Enigma by Andrew Hodges.
The Imitation Game - Wikipedia
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His work shortened the war and saved countless lifes.
And as a reward they ended his. Who were the REAL monsters?
@@aaronmurphy9353 Still the Nazis? They would have done the same if not worse, their prosecution of gays is well documented.
To Polacy złamali enigmę jeszcze przed wojną !!!!
@@aaronmurphy9353 I'd say the nazis were still worse.
@@marcgdw6876 sure, but then they updated Enigma so what's your point?
May God bless the Soul of Alan Turing ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
Tywin looking for someone to crack stark codes
The Imitation game.
thank you finally
thanks
The Polish ran out of time with enigma and were slaughtered by the Nazis. They gave enigma to the British for save keeping. Brave men and women with courage and light in their hearts did rid the world of evil and darkness.
Glad someone is giving the Poles the credit they deserve.
😂😂😂😂
@@osen3182you can read do you? But can you write decent reactions too?
Damn, you drank all the koolaid
"Margaret, Margaret..." - lines lifted straight from Little Britain 😂😂😂
Never forget the Polish gave the code breakers a really good start on the job.
You make it sound like they devised some genius plan to retrieve one. They just happened to come across one 🤣
@@cristianh.5133 that's totally not what I was saying and also far from the truth. But sure, you do you.
@@RichardFraser-y9t Then what were you trying to say? 😅
@@cristianh.5133 Google Marian Rejewski
@@cristianh.5133The poles cracked an earlier version.
My Grandmother was stationed at Bletchley Park for the entire war...
She kept quiet for 30 years after the war ended ...as she had to sign the official secrets act...
Apparently she was a superb typist ...
It was quite a place ...
Cracking the codes was as important as D Day ....
Every time I watch a British show set in the late 40s or early 50s, and the actor offhandedly says, " Oh, I worked in a place called Bletchley Park." my hair stands on end.
Without her efforts, D-Day wouldn't have worked at all.
2024: ctrl-v spammer
1942: typist
@@PA_Sword She was just one of many girls sat next to each other all day and night typing out the decrypted and non decrypted messages and passing them on...
Apparently they were not allowed to converse with each other at all about what each of them were doing...Nan was Apparently involved with allied and Japanese messaging...But that's all I know for certain....The girls sat either side etc ,could have been doing German, Italian etc...They had to prevent the passage of information from one another, as there were real German agents in the country at the time...all hush hush for real...Over 10,000 served there during the war ,which was way more than I'd ever imagined...The girls were picked for speed and accuracy in typing...and they basically took a written note or something, and put it down on paper...
Bless her ...We traced her at Bletchley and have now bought a memorial brick with her name etc ,and it's on the memorial wall there now...
Just to clarify....The English got enigma machine from Poles with Bomba....machine that was decrypting Enigma messages. THE ENGLISH LIE AS USUAL AND USE MOVIES TO DO THAT> Also....as far as D-Day Polish intelligence provided the allies with technical drawings of German Atlantic Wall fortifications before D-Day thanks to this man:
Kazimierz Leski, nom de guerre Bradl (21 June 1912 - 27 May 2000), was a Polish engineer, co-designer of the Polish submarines ORP Sęp (1938) and ORP Orzeł, a fighter pilot, and an officer in World War II Home Army's intelligence and counter-intelligence.
He is credited, during World War II, with at least 25 journeys across German-held Europe, usually in the uniform of a Wehrmacht Major General.
God bless the Poles and the Brits for the fantastic, mind-wracking work it took to crack these ciphers.
And not forgetting an unknown German soldier who broke the rule when he re-sent a message.
@@sandyhenderson441He wasn't killing Jews and Poles at that particular moment. suppose he was a lunch break...
Movie is called The Imitation Game
Thank you
Cumberbatch sure is a brilliant actor. He absorbs the very soul of his character. There are quite a few actors who can do this, but it still is rare. All actors have their unique way of becoming a character and are so talented. :)🎭🎭🎭🎭🎭🎭
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Even though his life ended tragically, his legacy shaped the world as we know it
Look what we did to Oppenheimer. Stupid people hate geniuses.
Even those of average intelligence hate geniuses.
I like geniuses. :)
Nikola Tesla was one of the world's greatest geniuses. He discovered alternating current and that's why we're writing on our laptops/computers right now. He died in poverty. Alan Turing should never have been treated so horrible. People can be so unbelievable biased and stupid.
Stupid people often think themselves as geniuses.
People fear what they can't understand
Benedict Cumberbatch, a heck of a good actor.
I thought Russia defeated Germany in wwii
@@eugene7518they did but ppl don't like that lil bit of history
But the British did help alot more than Americans
This was a fantastic story about the man that created the basis for every computer system's we have today.
It's also heartbreaking, the way he was treated and forced to take certain medications that lead him to take his own life.
They treated him like a deviant offender and destroyed the mind of a genius all because of his personal life.
He saved thousands of lives and created the first computer and the mechanical engineering version of A.i.
He was rewarded with being physically and emotionally destroyed due to the attitudes of the times.
He was queer? I had no idea. Honestly. I didn’t watch the movie. I am not aware of his history.
But based on what you said …. Am I right?
@@baseballsux2correct. Chemicals were commonly used to suppress.
Not true, he didn't make the first computer, nor is his work the basis of all computers, there were many people involved in the creation of the modern computer.
Not true, he didn't make the first computer, nor is his work the basis of all computers, there were many people involved in the creation of the modern computer.
Charles Dance is such a great actor.
Great movie! Cumberbatch's portrayal of Alan Turing was absolutely brilliant! Very much worth watching! 👍
Name of movie?
@@diyboomboxesintexas2805 The Imitation Game
@@diyboomboxesintexas2805 The Imitation Game, 2014.
@@diyboomboxesintexas2805The Imitation Game
@@diyboomboxesintexas2805 The Imitation Game
Charles Dance was the PERFECT casting for this role.
A brilliant scene, an amazing intellect, and a great crime for his reward . . . .
One of the best true stories I have hadthe pleasure of watching!
He was an extremely brilliant man,courageous and a hero
How?
Such a superior mind was lost because of homophobia. He helped win the war - imagine what else he could have accomplished. He died at 41. Some humans are too cruel.
Dr Strange meeting Tywin Lanister. Great :)
...the face was familiar to me...😂
Was waiting for Jon Snow to walk in thru the door after Tywin
The Patrician.
Lol
That's fukin Tywin Lanister!
The crime against humanity, that was exerted towards Allan is appalling!
UK legislation officials should forever be ashamed of ever having been a part of mistreat a genius like him!
Yes and Starmer is continuing that sordid tradion with his and crazy left attack on freespeach and promoting transition operations
Blame "god" and Christian beliefs
Turing's proclivities were known and tolerated. He screwed himself by picking up an underage kid who robbed his house while he was at work thinking no civil servant would report the petty thefts. But Turing did report it and the kid pointed the finger at Turing for buggery on an underage boy. He was offered a deferred sentence instead of prison which he accepted. Now tell us how God and Christian beliefs mistreated him. Do you believe in sex with children? Turing's lack of judgment is shocking even with enlightened views on homosexuality.
@@JacobKirkegaardJ all diffrent persons trigger the collective so sad
@@jmz388 10% of humanity is homosexual. I am quite certain that most of them had no saying int he outcome!
Blaming and medicating them wont change their nature.
Thank you, I understand it more better. I just love the way you broke it down.
Alan Turing saved thousands of lives, shortened the war, arguably won the war, and was treated horribly after the war. He should have been cannonized, at the very least knighted.
Great scene.
Agreed and his assistant Milton Porter was great as well...if only he could have avoided Rapture.
The movie was marvelous, exceptional. Well acted, the story was sorrowful, yet uplifting because of who he was, and what he was all about! He was treated poorly, but his legacy is positive and enduring.❤❤❤❤
This movie was far from reality, I feel sorry for how Alan was treated but he was FAR from the only person to crack the enigma machine. There were entire teams working on it. A massive team effort. Not just him.
Better to make a visit to Bletchley Park. It's all explained.
@@headcollecter3000 same with oppenhimer
I thought Russia defeated Germany in wwii.
The Americans, the Russians, the French everyone thinks enigma is unbreakable, except the Poles
One of the best actors and barely an actor at all doing one scene together…
I luuuurv CUMBER!! His acting is top notch. Adore him as Sherlock! Star Wars he was superb! The Tinker, Tailor series magnificent - & he’s on my list for watching this super film!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Star Wars? He was in Star Trek (Into the Darkness, as Khan).
@@Name-ps9fxyes but he was awesome as Khan!
Alan Turing being Sheldon Cooper for two minutes.
I think you got that backwards....
The Imitation Game (2014) is one of the best films ever made. Benedict Cumberbatch gave a masterly performance. The only reason he did not win the Academy Award? Eddie Redmayne as Stephen Hawking in the Theory of Everything... what an impossible choice! And what did they both teach us (Turing and Hawking)? Entropy isn't what it used to be.
How come nobody's thanking you for the title of the movie?! I just spent 5 minutes waiting for this dumbass comments and I don't even know the name of the movie that looks so good. Thank you so much for your post! 💪👍
Reading, not waiting, stupid voice type...
Thankyou
The Imitation Game - (2014)
The Imitation Game - (2014) 🫥
The title is literally how powerscalers be powerscaling people.
Good job that Polish didn't think that Enigma is unbreakable... 😂😂😂.
And yes, those mathematicians had to speak very good German and know how Germans behave to be able to break it. And it was achieved in 1932.
Poles led the groundwork for cracking Enegma
No it was Definitely him and his team he actually came up with the machine that cracked it.
Alot of there research was destroyed they had to start again but with some poles helping and parts they had manufactured 😊
How do you misspell Enigma?
Lol. Of course😂
Finding one isn’t ground work
These guys are just the smuggiest of the smug and I love it.
They're British
lmao
@@hypnoticrobotgaming It is just our signature look of superiority! :)
@@davidfarrer4332 superiority? You clearly haven't been able to pull your head out of your own ass then, because "great" Britain is pretty much as bad as America, if not worse in certain facets
@@davidfarrer4332 *Star Wars theme plays in the distance* 🫡
I wonder how many lives he saved . A great man .
Love cumberbunds acting. Humble yet strong, calm yet brilliantly passionate. He rather nailed this role.
Polish mathematicians cracked Enigma. Turing created a machine that allowed this knowledge to be used to decode German messages fast enough to be useful to fighting armies.
I thought Russia defeated Germany in wwii
@@eugene7518 West fought on sea, cutting off resources so that USSR could win in the east over land. Both had very important roles
God bless his memory and may we all give thanks for the life of this great man. ❤
Benedict Cumberbatch is clearly one of the truly great actors of recent times.
Sherlock Holmes and Tywin Lannister in one room.
To say brilliant isn't correct. His imagination let him infer the consequences of computation and how that relates to humanity at fundamental levels....it's amazing
Benedict- Playing Sherlock Holmes because it works the real Alan Turing according to historians was nothing like the character portrayed.
Two of my most favorite actors together in a scene WHATTT
What a genius he was .
Poland broke enigma
Poland broke enigma while being occupied by Germany? Idiot.
But the German changed the whole thing just before WWII started. They knew that the Poles were working on their Enigma machine
No they did not.
Where do you get your information from,
You poles are allways attempting to steal others valour, is it because you are so inept.
What an amazing man and treated very badly after the war
I thought Russia defeated Germany in wwii
My favorite part is the fact that it was the catchphrase that got them caught.
Kudos to the british for breaking the late enigma code.
Kudos to the polish for breaking an earlier version of the enigma code.
But also kudos to the germans for ever coming up with such a genius designe!
He didn't name Poland, when he enumerate countries who think "enigma" is unbreakable.
Taiwin Lannister is now doing math I see...
I was just waiting for Tyrion to waltz in 😂😂
The Poles were literally that guy in Rogue One that hands off the Death Star plans.
That's what happens when uneducated, lazy people try to learn history from movies.
Terrific film, terrific actors, especially Keira Knightley in her role as well. It’s heartbreaking how they treated him.
Name?
And, of course, Turing helped crack it.
Amazing amount of exposition they crammed into this scene.
Fantastic movie, fantastic acting. It's tragic what happened to Turing. However he is credited for his work on Enigma which shortened the war by 2 years and saved millions of lives.
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Churchill should have secured a royal pardon for him.
@@RichardTaylor1630 idk about that
I know right, it was absolutely criminal
It horrible what they did to this man.
Tywin can never find a realm where he can just chill and not be annoyed😂
He died on the can, poor dad, but anyway 🍷
Tywin was never this annoyed by Tyrion :)
This movie could have been great but nope instead it's full if BS. The admiral was actually Alan Turing's biggest supporter
I don't know which General you are speaking of, but Charles Dance's character was in the navy where Generals don't exist.
@@karenpenny3973 ok admiral then. Do you feel better about yourself now ?
@TheValidation So you want someone to accept your inaccuracy while commenting how inaccurate a film was? 😅
@@AFriskyGamer well despite my minor mistake in labeling the Admiral a General my criticism of the films gross inaccuracy remains true.
Deary me the rank every one has got it wrong the actual rank is Commander RNVR…
Great movie. Based on a the true story of the Allies struggle to break the German encryption code during WW2. Turing was KEY in breaking ENIGMA and giving the Allies the upper hand in the war. Damn shame how they did him though, Fr. 😕😕
The Poles actually technically broke the ENIGMA code, first -- the Army ENIGMA code, that is. What Turing helped crack was the Navy's ENIGMA code, which was used on machines with 8 rotors, while the Army code ran on 5 rotor machines, making the former orders of magnitude harder to crack than the latter.
The principle, the solution was exactly the same. Just a bigger, way more expensive version of the machine had to be built to crack it
I hope he was this confident in real life!!
Alan Turing and his story- the genius he was, what he created, and the horrors he was subjected to for being who he was- must be taught in schools.
He deserves to be remembered and acknowledged. The man was the father of computer science, for Pete's sake.
womp womp
There’s a reason “1984” took place in England. Look what they’re doing to Tommy Robinson now for exposing police corruption.
Once republicans do away with the Department of Ed and shift everything to home schooling where the approved online curriculum has a Christian focus teaching his story is not something that will happen
Father of theoretical computer science, not computer science.
Quick, somebody tell John Von Neumann.
Alan played a huge role in winning WW2! A gay man who was treated horribly by The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Let that fact never be forgotten!
This scene is completely ahistorical. Turing was recruited by people who knew exactly who he was and what he could do.
This is AFTER he created the concept of Turing Machines and the Turing Test.
@@patrickvolk7031 The Turing Test came after WW2 in the context of a BBC programme. However, before WW2 he had not only devised the Turing Machine, he had built a reputation at Cambridge and Princeton. When the government tried to recruit "people of the professor type" he was high up the list.
Also, contrary to what this movie suggests, he did know German, and enough of it to read scientific works in that language.
@@RH-ro3sg He toured Germany before WW2 with a colleague, and had to stop said colleague from doing Nazi salutes. Quite predictive really.
Makes for a pretty boring movie though: "Excuse me, we know who you are, come with us, help us solve Enigma." *and then he solved Enigma*.
my brain convince me that, thats tywin Lannister
Thank god the Polish mathematicians broke the enigma code at Bletchley Park.
I'd rather thank the Poles. At least we can prove they exist.
They didn't. The Poles first broke it in Poland.