And that's the whole point. These social and economical circumstances are a cycle very tough to break. Aleida couldn't break it and neither could Daya, they both became part of it. Being out of that circle, maybe her daughter has a chance.
G F she shoulda just have the gun to Maria... Aleida was right she did have the post partum shit going on.. and Gloria testifies Maria told her to use the gun. Daya didn’t even kill the guard .,, Kukudio did
Daniel A. Aleida tried.. her methods just didn’t work.. she was brought up fucked up too.. it’s a cycle.. Daya ENDED that cycle by giving the baby the Mendez’s mother
@Stone Harper How does this have anything to do with Aleida and Daya? Not everyone handles trauma the same and for someone with parents they went through the same thing you're mighty insensitive
Just caught that! Went to the comments to see if anyone else noticed (lol)! Just finished the series, but didn’t realize until now! Great camerawork and direction for symbolism!
amazingabby25 “watch for our kids” was pointed out in that clip because she was about to preform a s*xaul act on a grown man who should have known better.
She's not mother of the year, not even close. But I felt like she DID love her children but had absolutely no idea what it meant. Aleida grew up in a toxic, abusive home too and had no parental figures to look up to as a good example. It makes sense that she would repeat the same mistakes and her daughters after her. But Daya broke the cycle by giving her daughter away, knowing she would have a far better life. Regardless of how Daya ended up herself.
@@2jcward True. She did that when she had really lost it mentally and psychologically. She fucked up her life and she was just a different person. When she was deciding to give her baby away, she did break the cycle because that baby, her baby, will grow up outside of those family systems that destroyed Daya and her siblings.
The summer camp scenes just totally broke my heart more than any of the other flashbacks. The way Aleida acted when she picked up Daya and then manipulated her into not wanting to go back seems like something the best social worker in the world can't do anything about.
I don’t know why I watch these videos. So triggering for me. Same thing happened to me when I was younger. Tennis coach saw I had potential and even worked with me for free bc i couldn’t afford it. She and her husband had two sons and kind of looked at me as a daughter. My mother said she didn’t like her and felt lesbian and predator vibes from her and I couldn’t see her anymore. Looking back she was completely jealous because that woman could provide me mental and at times financial support my mother couldn’t. 😕😡
@@alyssapinon9670 we don't really have laws for psychological abuse. I don't even know how you would legislate it tbh . As a survivor of physical, sexual and psychological abuse, there are ways in which the psychological was the most damaging. It pervaded everything.
Weed isn't the gateway drug. Poverty is the gateway drug. Abuse and trauma is the gateway drug. I wish we cared enough systemically to put a stop to cycles like this.
Super Lady 1) In season 1, Aleida kept on persuading Daya to fuck a guard to receive McDonald’s after she found out Daya had a tiny crush on one of the CO’s 2) Daya was responsible for shooting a guard, she wasn’t responsible for killing him. Why are we all of suddenly forgetting that that crazy bitch Kukudio was the one who killed humps? Oh right she’s dead so I guess that was quickly put under the rug and people blocked that out.
monokhem She shot humps, she never killed him. She was charged and sentenced with MURDER. it’s not called being delusion, it’s called paying attention lol re watch season 5, then come back and we can have a proper argument lol
monokhem Kukudio is the one who killed him, that’s on period, I don’t know what else you want me to say to you or unless you’re hard headed. Dayas charge was overtly inaccurate considering she didn’t murder him. Maureen Kukudio was the one who blew bubbles into his IV causing him to have a stroke and die. Daya just injured him. Maureen Kukudio is the one who at fault. No one knew about it other than Suzanne who was unfortunately having a psychotic episode at the time. I made my point, bye bye.
Aleida never gave two shits about her kids. It was only after her time in prison, and Daya getting a lifetime sentence that she decided she wanted them to have a better life than her and breaking that poverty bus so the prison cycle don’t continue to her other kids. Kinda like the way Daya gave up Armaria to George's mom to give her a shot to a life of opportunities.
Dana Davison Exactly, it’s true that in the end she tried to correct Daya because she saw that her daughter had practically become a monster, but that is far from being a person who wanted the best for her children. Like when they went to visit her and she doesn't even ask them how they are because she only wants to know if Daya is fucking Cesar
@@honeyyb they literally said it. The teenage Daya is the daughter of the actress that plays prison daya. The actress was very young when she had her daughter
The ice cream van scene is so heartbreaking. She's still a child and the contrast between her childlike nature running to the ice cream van, then selling herself to the driver is heartbreaking. 😭💔
Alesia knew better... Anytime Daya began to blossom into her own and out of the box Aleida put her in, Aleida would knowing manipulate and emotionally abuse Daya. She involved Daya in so much against Daya’s will for her own gain. Aleida had the opportunity to change and make better decisions but she allowed herself to succumb to the faults of those before her. She endangered and corrupted all of her children’s lives.
I know I hated him since the first episode he appeared in. I can’t stand guys like him they remind me of the bullies in high school (and yes they were thug like)
I felt bad for Daya because she didn't understand at the time (she does in the show's current time) but what Aleida did was a common coping mechanism many people try to use. Neither wants to separate but the person being mean typically knows that there's either no choice or it's in the best interest of the other person so they lash out to make the person less sad about the separation. It's common in situations like this and many others. Not to say it's healthy, just common.
Her mom wasn't even being verbally abusive . Do not comment on abuse until you learn what it is . Calling her daughter worthless , useless , pathetic and telling her things like she should've gotten an abortion constantly is verbal abuse .
She wanted her to have better but git got jealous everytime she did and manipulated her to hurt her and have her dependent. Aleida wanted to be loved withiut giving it. She only cared about Ceasar
@@cherri4072 both physical and verbal abuse are equally bad. One of my friends had a verbally and physically abusive dad. He overcame that and he's doing great. He's married and has kids and he's a great dad.
At first, I wondered why it looked like Daya had a nose job at some point, legit thinking it was the same actress; then googled it and realized it's actually her daughter. So all the comments about the casting of younger portrayals, DEAD on!!
@@teearastanback2079 except carol and barb were two shitty people and aleida is just a worried mother while her daughter is a junkie with a life sentence who stopped caring. its even worse.
@@alliediallo1945 yeah but aleida tried making up for it later on. and she ended up like this because she chose to shoot the guard. aleida had nothing to do with that. maria even asked her if she really wanted to. she had a chance to rethink her choices.
@@alliediallo1945 if you remember Aleida didn't want to deal drugs at first but then daya forced her into doing it to put a roof over kids head. so in all Aleida just did it for her kids.
Ok but aleida says she is 37 in one season, and daya is around 24 apparently. This would make aleida 13 years old when she gave birth to daya. Ain’t no one telling me she was 13 in the birth flashback
amir riddle true but one thing that most people have over looked is that she mentions a Pervy PE teacher touching her daughter and then say “again”. Like was daya molested before or something? Why hasn’t anyone talked about that?
monokhem you thought the little girl at summer camp who had made new friends and wanted to be an artist was a “horrible little shit”? What happened to you?
Aleida was my favorite character from the beginning. She has so much charisma. I think she wanted to be a good mother , I mean you can see it at some point that she tried to be a good mother. But I also think that she was scared for her babies and that was easier for her to be hated by them. Still she love them. She love Daya. When she get released of jail she make her best for Eva and the others. she don’t know how to do it without violence. But she never give up for Daya , that why she punched her in the last episode , because Daya became someone she was not , a disrespectful junkie
@@ariisantiago8745 you dont learn how to be a mom, you just are. It's not something that you learn to do, its just done. I am to my kids what i wish how my parents would've been to me. Example, screaming and hurtful names hurt me a lot growing up. I dont want my children to go through that and hurt like the way i did so i try my best to not shout and I do not call them names. As a grown adult you should know that your bringing a life a damn person with feelings and a little heart there is no excuse.
Ok here’s what I’ve got🤔🤔🤔 Aleida grew up and became a *narcissist* because she found out she could only depend on her self so she did whatever made herself happy. Aleida now has kids who she loves and wants the best for but doesn’t know how to show it because she wasn’t shown it. So her happiness came first that’s why she made Daya clean her kids’ mess while she was having fun. Daya always having to be responsible because her mom wasn’t becomes *codependent* that’s why she got so hooked on power because she never had it. She was always someone to step on.
monokhem Lol speak for yourself nobodies ever cared about me my entire life much like aleida and it caused me to only care about my problems and only mines because I realized nobody would ever care about mines ultimately becoming narcissistic
All Aleida wanted to do at the end was protect her kids, she went back to prison protecting Eva (she was so upset cuz it brought up childhood trauma of her mother pimping her out for money and men taking advantage of her) and then the only choice she had ultimately to protect her children was to kill Daya
IMO, I don’t condone the way Alexis treated her children. There are some scenes though where you can see Aleida shows a genuine love for Daya in between the cracks. She always gets so happy or emotional when her and Daya have moments of connection, and even moments of jealousy like we see when she picks her up from camp. I believe in a way, Daya is giving her some type of love that fills the void and emptiness caused by Aleida’s mother. Either way, it’s heart breaking.
This proves that, deep down, Aleida knew how toxic her mother was and how getting preyed on by older men deeply affected her. Yes, she ended up making many of the same mistakes as her mom, but you could tell she hoped for her kids to have a better life.
Daya wanted to be an artist (yea i know most of the people like her mom laugh about that profession and only call being a lawyer, doctor and architect a real profession) but her mom had this ego trippin and degraded dayas dream when she was showing her the art she made. And then when her mom asked her again if she really wants to be an artist days hesitated and said „no i wanna be a mom“. Well good job moma. Pisses me off... marrying and having kids BEFORE graduating and having a degree is a no go. Most of the time people and up in a poor life situation. And yes iK... you can only manage to study when u have money. But what im trying to say is.. even if u dont have the money, its not ok from a parent to break your kids motivation and creativity
I think daya lied in that moment. She still wanted to be an artist, but she knew telling her mom that would never be supported. So she acquiesced. That’s part of the tragedy and manipulation- the mother’s wants trumped the child’s at every turn.
Aleida just had a shitty life and don’t want this for her children. She make it in a bad way but make this for them. Daya i don’t understand why she become like this
missclotheoverbros Her mom continued to ruin her life throughout her pregnancy and after giving birth. Daya got life in prison and her mom was dumb enough to sell drugs and end up in prison again. I’d be pissed off too. No matter what, Daya doesn’t win
monokhem How is that smart? She knew the consequences from seeing it happen to her mother and herself, but still somehow thought that it would “work” this time around?
monokhem “You privileged people” lol why are you taking this personally? What do you know about my life? It continued the cycle of daughters running away from their mothers and getting into dealing drugs. “Do as I say, not as I do” doesn’t really work.
monokhem I mean, you came directly at me with “you privileged people” lol. She didn’t have to start slinging drugs and making Daya take care of the kids, nor did she need to sell drugs again and put them in the same situation as before, but she thought that going the faster way was the best way. At some point you have to stop making dumb choices and expecting everyone to feel bad for you for getting into that. It’s a fictional show, i don’t know why you decided to make this that deep 🤷🏻♀️ It’s a cycle because now Daya’s little sister is starting to sell drugs as well. Did we watch the same show? Lol
Also I love how in the show only a year has passed yet Eva, Lucy, etc. grew up to be so large.. Eva looked like a 2nd grader.. last season she was 13... lol
@@scipioafricanus5871 deadass, i can understand that she had a rough upbringing but that doesn’t excuse her manipulation and consistent mind games, that’s beyond toxic, at some point of your life you grow atleast an inch of awareness and she was just awful, spending more of her time on her boyfriend and neglecting her kids is enough for me to despise someone, i don’t give a shit about what you’ve been through in your past even though it may be relevant to what’s happening in the present, it still doesn’t fit right in my spirit, the scene where she smashes dayas art piece was irritating to watch and it makes me cringe everytime i see it. yea daya turned for the worst but she’s literally just a copy and paste of aleida considering she’s been doing the same shit dayas been doing in prison. aleida ain’t innocent.
The comments saying daya was wrong to be blaming her mother for her choices in prison clearly are not understanding that childhood trauma stays with someone and impacts them their whole life. So yeah aleida did have that impact on daya, but aleida was also traumatised. It's the big messy cycle of generational trauma. 💔
Crazy... 5:45 I had a friend, who got 1 - 3 years in prison for kidnapping and it was for this exact shit. It wasn't at a bus stop lol, but the girl was being abused by her alcoholic mother. The drunk mom, got his license plate, instantly called 911 and an hour later he got held at gun point and arrested at the local McDonalds. He had priors for drugs and intent to distribute. The girl who was " kidnapped " was 14, she went willingly of course but it didn't matter. She was gonna testify but she didn't show up to court. He had no money for a lawyer and boom her got sentenced to 3 years but was home in like 14 months due to a technicality of some sort. Our bullshit of a justice system.
this is so sad and well done we have to congratulate the writers it really is focused on so many details that shows more and more how deep and fucked up the scar is for this mother-daughter relationship that was doomed from the start. I mean since aleida was a kid she didn't do the right things (of course because of her surrounding and circumstances) and things ended up being like that. real, hard, sad. hate to love that they don't get a happy ending. would give everything to see they happy tho, they really deserved it. so sad :(
Her mum really steered her all wrong about the whole party thing. She was going to do the right thing and stay loyal to her friends. Aleida ended up ruining stuff for Daya in the end just like her mother did for her. And Daya actually wanted to stay loyal and close with people long term, not just let them come and go.
Daya was so sweet to start with and she resisted her mum screwing her over so many times. Only to eventually end up going down the same path, being poor and her mum getting sent to prison seemed like the last straw Aleida treated her so badly too.
The fair use guidelines are so sweet considering all these videos are still up :) Jenji really knows what she’s doing, man. As I recall even Weeds, which existed before Yourube or started right around the same time, really utilized the platform to get the word out-thats how I started watching. When will more networks understand that the word getting out about their shows is much more important than the pittance they lose through bootlegging and uploads? All the way back to Napster, man.
How come Aleida escaped from her mother as a teenager ( 6:18 ) but then you see them at 6:47 sitting next to each other and talking like nothing ever happened?
Ugh I was hoping the ice cream truck driver wasn’t gonna come onto her but of course that’s exactly what happened after he realized the girl had no one to keep her safe.
Who should I do next?
turtlekid09 red please
Omar Alajme you got it
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Daya barely had a chance. Her home life was so toxic. She started out so sweet & innocent but everything around her just led to her downfall
And that's the whole point. These social and economical circumstances are a cycle very tough to break. Aleida couldn't break it and neither could Daya, they both became part of it. Being out of that circle, maybe her daughter has a chance.
A prime example of nature v. nurture
G F she shoulda just have the gun to Maria... Aleida was right she did have the post partum shit going on.. and Gloria testifies Maria told her to use the gun. Daya didn’t even kill the guard .,, Kukudio did
G F Daya has plenty of chances... she didn’t have to shoot that guard. You act like children don’t learn from their parents
monokhem no offence but do you have parents like that cuz I do.
The cycle continues from Aleida' mother to Aleida to Daya to Daya's younger sister.
It's a vicious cycle.
Not if Aleida kills Daya
Dove daya didn’t die in orange is the new black.
@@user-rl2rw3tp6s I’m pretty sure Aleida killed her by choking her.
@@1862s I thought so do but if you look it up it says she doesn’t die ..
Young Aleida is perfect. Young Carol and Barb were perfect too. The casting director on this show should get an Emmy.
John Helton her expressions were on point
You can tell they are related. They look exactally alike. I thought maybe sister until I read it was her RL daughter.
William Fetters no young Daya is Older Daya’s daughter. But Aleida isn’t related to her younger self.
Maybe but she didn't have an accent and it makes no sense that she developped an accent in her adult life
seriously. Honestly the young version of most of the characters is so spot-on.
I hated Aleida for how she treated Dayanara and everyone else but now I see why the way she is the way she is. I feel bad for her.
Daniel A. are u kidding i loved aleida
Holly Fearnehough I hated her at the beginning but grew to like her throughout the show.
Daniel A. Aleida tried.. her methods just didn’t work.. she was brought up fucked up too.. it’s a cycle.. Daya ENDED that cycle by giving the baby the Mendez’s mother
Yeah i feel bad for her but Its still not right how she acts out
@Stone Harper How does this have anything to do with Aleida and Daya? Not everyone handles trauma the same and for someone with parents they went through the same thing you're mighty insensitive
When she walked into the ice cream truck and it showed “Watch for our kids” is so sad and true because they’re really never safe anywhere.
Just caught that! Went to the comments to see if anyone else noticed (lol)! Just finished the series, but didn’t realize until now! Great camerawork and direction for symbolism!
My sister in law was hit by a car trying to go to the ice cream truck, she was in a coma for months and it took her years to recover, she almost died
amazingabby25 “watch for our kids” was pointed out in that clip because she was about to preform a s*xaul act on a grown man who should have known better.
amazingabby25 but good to hear she’s okay now.
I didn't think anyone else noticed that,! 😮
Okay but Aleida was serving LOOKS, the costume designers did a great job with her outfits.
Kristina T. OMG I thought i was the only one, the outfit she wore when she was driven away from her mom was EVERYTHING.
Dana Davison it would be realistic to what she’d worn in real life though
Dana Davison no one cares.
Her hair mad pretty too
She's not mother of the year, not even close. But I felt like she DID love her children but had absolutely no idea what it meant. Aleida grew up in a toxic, abusive home too and had no parental figures to look up to as a good example. It makes sense that she would repeat the same mistakes and her daughters after her. But Daya broke the cycle by giving her daughter away, knowing she would have a far better life. Regardless of how Daya ended up herself.
Aleida clearly loved her kids she just didn’t know how to be a good mother because of how awful her mother was to her
i was about to say that’s why you don’t have kids and that’s why i’m not having kids.
But she ended up pimpin out her younger sisters, so she really didn’t break the cycle. She might have thought she did.
@@2jcward she tried ig
@@2jcward True. She did that when she had really lost it mentally and psychologically. She fucked up her life and she was just a different person.
When she was deciding to give her baby away, she did break the cycle because that baby, her baby, will grow up outside of those family systems that destroyed Daya and her siblings.
She drinks vodka but still runs for ice cream ... She still a kid 💔
I’m 18 and I still run for ice cream lol
@@cherryfangz6917 18 y/o are still kids
@@jembop no?
@@zarrabaw9672 yup
@@jembop 18y.o. is an adult not kid learn about it lmao
The summer camp scenes just totally broke my heart more than any of the other flashbacks. The way Aleida acted when she picked up Daya and then manipulated her into not wanting to go back seems like something the best social worker in the world can't do anything about.
My mom was a former social worker and she can confirm that it was much harder to report people for emotional abuse than for physical abuse/neglect.
Yep that scene was horrible
I don’t know why I watch these videos. So triggering for me. Same thing happened to me when I was younger. Tennis coach saw I had potential and even worked with me for free bc i couldn’t afford it. She and her husband had two sons and kind of looked at me as a daughter. My mother said she didn’t like her and felt lesbian and predator vibes from her and I couldn’t see her anymore. Looking back she was completely jealous because that woman could provide me mental and at times financial support my mother couldn’t. 😕😡
@@2jcward Well, I'm guessing you turned out alright as a person, even if you didn't make it to Wimbledon.
@@alyssapinon9670 we don't really have laws for psychological abuse. I don't even know how you would legislate it tbh .
As a survivor of physical, sexual and psychological abuse, there are ways in which the psychological was the most damaging. It pervaded everything.
Why has no one talked about that ice cream van scene? It was absolutely heat breaking
username usernamelastname it is. That grown man preyed on her and her mom taught her to make money using her body as a child
It was nothing short of revolting. This is why I avoid ice cream trucks. 🍦🍧🍨
@monokhem Glad you got the pun!
@Nickelbackist meinLeben woah, this comment was alarming
Do not procreate and stay AWAY from children
username usernamelastname idk get the part
The actress who plays Aleida is a whole mood! Her confidence is a amazing!
Weed isn't the gateway drug. Poverty is the gateway drug. Abuse and trauma is the gateway drug. I wish we cared enough systemically to put a stop to cycles like this.
Beautifully said
Alcohol is actually the gateway drug. People are far moree likely to try drugs they never would have while drunk.
Reaganomics
Yes
Daya really used to be so sweet, and so herself, she had her own ideas and was a good soul. Aleida poisoned her every time
Karen Zamora aleida is a snake
Yep whatever daya did in prison it was all she herself. But i do feel bad what daya did with daddy
Super Lady 1) In season 1, Aleida kept on persuading Daya to fuck a guard to receive McDonald’s after she found out Daya had a tiny crush on one of the CO’s
2) Daya was responsible for shooting a guard, she wasn’t responsible for killing him. Why are we all of suddenly forgetting that that crazy bitch Kukudio was the one who killed humps? Oh right she’s dead so I guess that was quickly put under the rug and people blocked that out.
monokhem She shot humps, she never killed him. She was charged and sentenced with MURDER. it’s not called being delusion, it’s called paying attention lol re watch season 5, then come back and we can have a proper argument lol
monokhem Kukudio is the one who killed him, that’s on period, I don’t know what else you want me to say to you or unless you’re hard headed. Dayas charge was overtly inaccurate considering she didn’t murder him. Maureen Kukudio was the one who blew bubbles into his IV causing him to have a stroke and die. Daya just injured him. Maureen Kukudio is the one who at fault. No one knew about it other than Suzanne who was unfortunately having a psychotic episode at the time. I made my point, bye bye.
All Aleida ever wanted was the best for her kids , she just didn’t know how to give it to them so it always came off as aggressive and uncaring.
Dakotta Mathews sounds about my mom
@@beavis9535 damn
Aleida never gave two shits about her kids. It was only after her time in prison, and Daya getting a lifetime sentence that she decided she wanted them to have a better life than her and breaking that poverty bus so the prison cycle don’t continue to her other kids. Kinda like the way Daya gave up Armaria to George's mom to give her a shot to a life of opportunities.
Dana Davison Exactly, it’s true that in the end she tried to correct Daya because she saw that her daughter had practically become a monster, but that is far from being a person who wanted the best for her children. Like when they went to visit her and she doesn't even ask them how they are because she only wants to know if Daya is fucking Cesar
@@beavis9535 Dayanara Díaz???
Aleida and Daya’s relationship is the definition of Hurt people Hurt people.
A child running after the ice cream truck only to sell herself to the ice cream man that is when you know the child is so beaten down with life
How old was she ?
@@baddiereal7461 she looked about 13
@@JessicaLopez-ib9wf 14-15 looks more accurate
Shit broke my heart
That’s dayas real daughter that played her
As a teenager? I wondered how they found someone that looked so much like her!
@@mhm7011 yep! I knew that lol I was asking if it was the girl who played her as a teenager bc I thought they looked the most alike
That’s her little sister not her daughter
@@honeyyb they literally said it. The teenage Daya is the daughter of the actress that plays prison daya. The actress was very young when she had her daughter
aurora yeah, Dascha was 18 when she had her kid
it's so sad its a cycle of toxicity ..... none of them could be the mother they needed as kids
The ice cream van scene is so heartbreaking. She's still a child and the contrast between her childlike nature running to the ice cream van, then selling herself to the driver is heartbreaking. 😭💔
The flashbacks were some of the best and powerful scenes on this show. I truly felt sympathy for most of the inmates.
Aleida did do Daya bad but she really didn't know better. It's actually very sad
Alesia knew better... Anytime Daya began to blossom into her own and out of the box Aleida put her in, Aleida would knowing manipulate and emotionally abuse Daya. She involved Daya in so much against Daya’s will for her own gain. Aleida had the opportunity to change and make better decisions but she allowed herself to succumb to the faults of those before her. She endangered and corrupted all of her children’s lives.
@@M.Elle- exactly
Cesar truly is disgusting, why is nobody saying that
Remember when he pointed a gun at Ernesto for not eating something 👁👄👁
Idk I liked him lol he had some funny lines
@@preparetoholdyourcolour7080 "you are like robocop"
He sure was disgusting
I know I hated him since the first episode he appeared in. I can’t stand guys like him they remind me of the bullies in high school (and yes they were thug like)
The part when daya was young & at camp I felt sorry for her her mom was being very verbally abusive .
I felt bad for Daya because she didn't understand at the time (she does in the show's current time) but what Aleida did was a common coping mechanism many people try to use. Neither wants to separate but the person being mean typically knows that there's either no choice or it's in the best interest of the other person so they lash out to make the person less sad about the separation. It's common in situations like this and many others. Not to say it's healthy, just common.
Her mom wasn't even being verbally abusive . Do not comment on abuse until you learn what it is . Calling her daughter worthless , useless , pathetic and telling her things like she should've gotten an abortion constantly is verbal abuse .
She wanted her to have better but git got jealous everytime she did and manipulated her to hurt her and have her dependent. Aleida wanted to be loved withiut giving it. She only cared about Ceasar
Mary McNeal- Stevenson that’s not true she did it for daya
@@cherri4072 both physical and verbal abuse are equally bad. One of my friends had a verbally and physically abusive dad. He overcame that and he's doing great. He's married and has kids and he's a great dad.
At first, I wondered why it looked like Daya had a nose job at some point, legit thinking it was the same actress; then googled it and realized it's actually her daughter. So all the comments about the casting of younger portrayals, DEAD on!!
same!
That's crazy that the actress that plays teen Daya went to my High School and I didn't know she was in the show until now
Her mom is the real Daya
Damn life is crazy
Aleida and Daya are the new Carol and Barb which is so sad
I said the exact same thing swear💯
@@teearastanback2079 except carol and barb were two shitty people and aleida is just a worried mother while her daughter is a junkie with a life sentence who stopped caring. its even worse.
@@alexanderluna4598 But Daya is the way she is because of Aleida's bad parenting
@@alliediallo1945 yeah but aleida tried making up for it later on. and she ended up like this because she chose to shoot the guard. aleida had nothing to do with that. maria even asked her if she really wanted to. she had a chance to rethink her choices.
@@alliediallo1945 if you remember Aleida didn't want to deal drugs at first but then daya forced her into doing it to put a roof over kids head. so in all Aleida just did it for her kids.
That scene with the kids visiting and her reaction to her daughter telling her about the paper airplane is heartbreaking 😭
I bet yall dont even know that Young Daya was played by Dascha’s actual daughter
I could tell that teen Daya was Dascha's daughter, they look so much alike. That was her first child.
I did. A couple comments over yours said it already 😌
It makes sense she looks JUST like her
Ok but aleida says she is 37 in one season, and daya is around 24 apparently. This would make aleida 13 years old when she gave birth to daya. Ain’t no one telling me she was 13 in the birth flashback
streets is ruff cuz
I mean she’s also the type to misrepresent her age because she looks good and young for actual age
@@BamBamSo80zz no way she is 37, that bitch is pushing towards 50 if she isnt already there. i mean she looks good, but lol.
She probably had Daya at a young age, but I wouldn't be surprised if she lied about her age either.
I doubt she’s 37. I thought she was in her 40’s
18:12 dont ever trivialize your teenagers/kid’s pain. To them it matters and it is important
amir riddle true but one thing that most people have over looked is that she mentions a Pervy PE teacher touching her daughter and then say “again”. Like was daya molested before or something? Why hasn’t anyone talked about that?
@@ganceann5930 because sadly that’s not uncommon especially in low income schools
The way aleida threw all the art and punched the baloon thing it made me so sad
I love how they had Dascha's daughter play teen Daya. She looks exactly like her mother!
Aleida manipulated daya so much
@monokhem hate how she turned out
@monokhem were you just here to be an ass in the comments? Every one ive seen from you so far was fucking rude or racist.
monokhem you thought the little girl at summer camp who had made new friends and wanted to be an artist was a “horrible little shit”? What happened to you?
The way Aleida manipulated Cesar into buying food in that kitchen scene.🙌🏾
Thank you for posting this, their stories were so confusing in the order on the show
"Someone named their kid after pants?"! LOL, Aleida.
The camp episode made me so mad . Aleida is so toxic I couldn’t imagine ....
I mean , she didn’t mean to - she loved her kids - and the way she grew up -
@air She didn’t know better , she loved her kids and wanted to help - just didn’t know how too.
that damn scene where Aleida drops Dayaoff at camp makes me cry EVERY DAMN TIME.
" That blanquita is bland,
Like French fries with no salt"
Got me 💀 asf 😂
"She's not getting no boricua!"
@@Joe_Parmesan fr🤣🤣
that was funny 😭
The little Daya's so sweet and smart, and she loved her mom so much😭 Why does things have to turn out that way
Fun fact: Daya & Aleida are only 2 years apart in age in real life!
Aleida was so traumatised, who tf makes their child do that. I get why she turned out the way she did. 😭
Aleida was my favorite character from the beginning. She has so much charisma.
I think she wanted to be a good mother , I mean you can see it at some point that she tried to be a good mother. But I also think that she was scared for her babies and that was easier for her to be hated by them. Still she love them. She love Daya. When she get released of jail she make her best for Eva and the others. she don’t know how to do it without violence. But she never give up for Daya , that why she punched her in the last episode , because Daya became someone she was not , a disrespectful junkie
monokhem dont care i love her and i dont think that she killed her own daughter she just proved to her that she was stronger
@@vorenus13300 yeah daya never died like she just knocked her out
This is why I loved this show because I can empathize with each characters emotions and struggles
Aledia may had it rough for her childhood, but that sh gets off the hook in being a bad mom
Remus Lee she never learned how to be a mom
It’s cuz she never had an example
@@ariisantiago8745 you dont learn how to be a mom, you just are. It's not something that you learn to do, its just done. I am to my kids what i wish how my parents would've been to me. Example, screaming and hurtful names hurt me a lot growing up. I dont want my children to go through that and hurt like the way i did so i try my best to not shout and I do not call them names. As a grown adult you should know that your bringing a life a damn person with feelings and a little heart there is no excuse.
@@ariisantiago8745 doesn’t matter
Ok here’s what I’ve got🤔🤔🤔
Aleida grew up and became a *narcissist* because she found out she could only depend on her self so she did whatever made herself happy. Aleida now has kids who she loves and wants the best for but doesn’t know how to show it because she wasn’t shown it. So her happiness came first that’s why she made Daya clean her kids’ mess while she was having fun. Daya always having to be responsible because her mom wasn’t becomes *codependent* that’s why she got so hooked on power because she never had it. She was always someone to step on.
monokhem Lol speak for yourself nobodies ever cared about me my entire life much like aleida and it caused me to only care about my problems and only mines because I realized nobody would ever care about mines ultimately becoming narcissistic
I’m so sad that this show is over
this show has the most insane character developments i've ever seen
Generational trauma ladies and gentlemen.. 😔
All Aleida wanted to do at the end was protect her kids, she went back to prison protecting Eva (she was so upset cuz it brought up childhood trauma of her mother pimping her out for money and men taking advantage of her) and then the only choice she had ultimately to protect her children was to kill Daya
Can we just have a moment of appreciation for the amazing casting job they did on the show?
That ice cream van scene is so heartbreaking, especially since ice creams vans are traditionally a place for kids and should be safe. 💔
IMO, I don’t condone the way Alexis treated her children. There are some scenes though where you can see Aleida shows a genuine love for Daya in between the cracks. She always gets so happy or emotional when her and Daya have moments of connection, and even moments of jealousy like we see when she picks her up from camp. I believe in a way, Daya is giving her some type of love that fills the void and emptiness caused by Aleida’s mother. Either way, it’s heart breaking.
I would never pimp out my kids. I’ll send them to a Home before I ever take their childhoods away.
Daya was such a sweet kid at first, she obviously genuinely really enjoyed that camp, even though she didn't want to go at first. 🥺❤
The “watch for our children” on the ice cream truck 😣
This proves that, deep down, Aleida knew how toxic her mother was and how getting preyed on by older men deeply affected her.
Yes, she ended up making many of the same mistakes as her mom, but you could tell she hoped for her kids to have a better life.
Is that Daya's actor in makeup playing teenage Daya? If not, then this casting director needs a raise!!
Aaron Molo her daughter irl
It’s the actors daughter
They picked the perfect person for a younger Aleida she looks just like her
Amanda Teehan it’s her daughter in real life
That was a good idea for them to put her in there then!
@@elliemartland1136 i think u mixed Aleida and Daya
Aleida really treated Daya's passions and her pain like they were nothing. 😭
Daya wanted to be an artist (yea i know most of the people like her mom laugh about that profession and only call being a lawyer, doctor and architect a real profession) but her mom had this ego trippin and degraded dayas dream when she was showing her the art she made. And then when her mom asked her again if she really wants to be an artist days hesitated and said „no i wanna be a mom“. Well good job moma.
Pisses me off... marrying and having kids BEFORE graduating and having a degree is a no go. Most of the time people and up in a poor life situation. And yes iK... you can only manage to study when u have money. But what im trying to say is.. even if u dont have the money, its not ok from a parent to break your kids motivation and creativity
I think daya lied in that moment. She still wanted to be an artist, but she knew telling her mom that would never be supported. So she acquiesced. That’s part of the tragedy and manipulation- the mother’s wants trumped the child’s at every turn.
My Lord this is heartbreaking. Talk about cycles and generational curses. That poor kid never had a chance.
20:19 I just realised that was a reference to Red's "eggplant" joke from one of her flashbacks!
I'm crying because I'm going thru generational curses and it's so hard to change or break the cycle
You got this! 💪🏽
how cool is it that teenage daya was played by dascha’s (daya’s actress) own daughter
The icecream scene is heartbreaking. Shes just a little girl still wanting to chase the icecream truck
This is why I support abortion. A woman raised liked Aleida should’ve never had kids. She never wanted Daya.
O wow. Sorry it took me years to find this but thank you for this and in chronological order ❤
Aleida just had a shitty life and don’t want this for her children. She make it in a bad way but make this for them. Daya i don’t understand why she become like this
missclotheoverbros Her mom continued to ruin her life throughout her pregnancy and after giving birth. Daya got life in prison and her mom was dumb enough to sell drugs and end up in prison again. I’d be pissed off too. No matter what, Daya doesn’t win
monokhem How is that smart? She knew the consequences from seeing it happen to her mother and herself, but still somehow thought that it would “work” this time around?
monokhem “You privileged people” lol why are you taking this personally? What do you know about my life? It continued the cycle of daughters running away from their mothers and getting into dealing drugs. “Do as I say, not as I do” doesn’t really work.
monokhem I mean, you came directly at me with “you privileged people” lol. She didn’t have to start slinging drugs and making Daya take care of the kids, nor did she need to sell drugs again and put them in the same situation as before, but she thought that going the faster way was the best way. At some point you have to stop making dumb choices and expecting everyone to feel bad for you for getting into that. It’s a fictional show, i don’t know why you decided to make this that deep 🤷🏻♀️
It’s a cycle because now Daya’s little sister is starting to sell drugs as well. Did we watch the same show? Lol
@@breegonzalez6924 Thank you I'm sick and tired of the Aleida apologist brigade in these comments. Aleida is a self-centered bitch.
As a Latina this breaks my heart I wanted to slap That mother pimping your own child out.
Also I love how in the show only a year has passed yet Eva, Lucy, etc. grew up to be so large.. Eva looked like a 2nd grader.. last season she was 13... lol
I love this show! Thank you for uploading this comp! I love these backstories to see what made the woman do to get them into prison.
The ice cream truck scene was very sad and pretty disturbing…
Poor Aleida, she tried to be a good mum but had nothing to base off
She shouldn’t have been having kids if she was gonna be selling crack
@@bongowrld well it’s not like their life in foster homes would have been much better
It's always poor boohoo Aleida. That bitch is selfish and toxic and ain't got what's ought to come to her.
@@scipioafricanus5871 deadass, i can understand that she had a rough upbringing but that doesn’t excuse her manipulation and consistent mind games, that’s beyond toxic, at some point of your life you grow atleast an inch of awareness and she was just awful, spending more of her time on her boyfriend and neglecting her kids is enough for me to despise someone, i don’t give a shit about what you’ve been through in your past even though it may be relevant to what’s happening in the present, it still doesn’t fit right in my spirit, the scene where she smashes dayas art piece was irritating to watch and it makes me cringe everytime i see it. yea daya turned for the worst but she’s literally just a copy and paste of aleida considering she’s been doing the same shit dayas been doing in prison. aleida ain’t innocent.
The girl wanting to turn the fish into a mermaid got me 😭
Thanks for making these!!
The comments saying daya was wrong to be blaming her mother for her choices in prison clearly are not understanding that childhood trauma stays with someone and impacts them their whole life. So yeah aleida did have that impact on daya, but aleida was also traumatised. It's the big messy cycle of generational trauma. 💔
Crazy... 5:45 I had a friend, who got 1 - 3 years in prison for kidnapping and it was for this exact shit. It wasn't at a bus stop lol, but the girl was being abused by her alcoholic mother. The drunk mom, got his license plate, instantly called 911 and an hour later he got held at gun point and arrested at the local McDonalds. He had priors for drugs and intent to distribute. The girl who was " kidnapped " was 14, she went willingly of course but it didn't matter. She was gonna testify but she didn't show up to court. He had no money for a lawyer and boom her got sentenced to 3 years but was home in like 14 months due to a technicality of some sort. Our bullshit of a justice system.
That camp scene triggered my ptsd so hard.
this is so sad and well done we have to congratulate the writers it really is focused on so many details that shows more and more how deep and fucked up the scar is for this mother-daughter relationship that was doomed from the start. I mean since aleida was a kid she didn't do the right things (of course because of her surrounding and circumstances) and things ended up being like that. real, hard, sad. hate to love that they don't get a happy ending. would give everything to see they happy tho, they really deserved it. so sad :(
This Vicious cycle occurs in so many cultures.
Her mum really steered her all wrong about the whole party thing. She was going to do the right thing and stay loyal to her friends. Aleida ended up ruining stuff for Daya in the end just like her mother did for her. And Daya actually wanted to stay loyal and close with people long term, not just let them come and go.
It always shocked me how the younger counterparts of the cast looked so much alike.
Aleida always had a bad life, but in the back of my mind, I thought Daya would break the cycle. I definitely missed the mark on that one.
When she was throwing away her art that really hurt
Throwing away her personal achievements…
dascha and her daughter look IDENTICAL
When Aledia’s mom said “I want a better life for even if it means you won’t get to raise her” that’s what Daya ended up doing....that really hurt
Daya was so sweet to start with and she resisted her mum screwing her over so many times. Only to eventually end up going down the same path, being poor and her mum getting sent to prison seemed like the last straw Aleida treated her so badly too.
Lucy is so cute!
"Mommy, I made a paper airplane!"
The fair use guidelines are so sweet considering all these videos are still up :) Jenji really knows what she’s doing, man. As I recall even Weeds, which existed before Yourube or started right around the same time, really utilized the platform to get the word out-thats how I started watching. When will more networks understand that the word getting out about their shows is much more important than the pittance they lose through bootlegging and uploads? All the way back to Napster, man.
When paolo said he liked Claire I was like OH HELL NOOO I was so sad bro for daya;-;
wow aleida was teaching daya to be a hater when she was young
Aleida literally treated everyone in her lifetime like a peice of crap
When she says "Yeah, Bitches" it was so Cute (but wrong) löl
The oitnb video I’ve been waiting on!
The two best of the whole show
How come Aleida escaped from her mother as a teenager ( 6:18 ) but then you see them at 6:47 sitting next to each other and talking like nothing ever happened?
It's her friend, Lola.
The mother's name was Valeria.
@@pelosuelto70 but she called her "mamá"
@@NoodleSan2299 She was her aunt
That’s Aleida’s Aunt Lola who she lived with Daya before her other children and Cesar came into her life.
That’s just messed up ...last scene with children watching
Ugh I was hoping the ice cream truck driver wasn’t gonna come onto her but of course that’s exactly what happened after he realized the girl had no one to keep her safe.