Went out today and got lost. I have garmin 810 at the moment and tried to route myself back home... however it didn't take me on a sensible route. So i pulled out kamoot on my phone and used that. My question / video idea! How easy and more sensible would a 830 do it? or is using something like kamoot and syncing on the fly to a garmin 530 or 520plus a more cost effective way?? I know you can do it straight on the 830 but wondered how much difference just using a 3rd party app might make. Had to turn my phone volume up and go purely on the voice commands which was actually quite good but did miss a couple of turns first time.
This is good to know and useful if I fancy doing anything on the fly when out and about, thanks. That said I'm still stuck on Ride with GPS, partly because I'm used to how it works but moreover because it integrates Google Street View when you're planning. I really want to see what I'm planning to ride down and get a feel for it. It also flags potentially non road bike friendly surfaces too where the Google-mobile couldn't get down.
I’m considering the new Garmin Montana 750i for trekking and trails. Do you know if it is compatible with Garmin iq app? I would like ride with gps routes from Komoot, Strava and Ride with gps. Thanks
yes please ! there used to be a great app called the Wahoo/Strava segment app which allowed you to simply ride any segment on your Kickr. It has disappeared? I would love a vlog on how to use your Garmin to ride a IRL course on your Kickr :) Thank you B.T.
Maybe I am missing something (probably) but I really cannot see the advantage of Komoot for anything but road cycling and then I am still struggling to see the value. What am I missing?
MTB routes, running routes, route sharing.... value is different for everyone. What I was looking into here (and what I made the video about) was a way to wirelessly sync routes go Garmins with the Connect IQ app.
So circumvoluted ! Ride With GPS website and app all the way for me. (PS: would you do a review of the navigation with Ride With GPS on your mobile compared to those "dedicated" units ?)
I was wondering how you can upload/download a new course to your Garmin in the middle of a ride? For example, you've started your Garmin when you left your hotel and 50 miles later you decide it's time to go back. You open your phone and create a route on your phone on Komoot. How do you then upload that route on to your Garmin in the middle of a ride so you can navigate back to the hotel? I'm using a Garmin 1030 and for the life of me I can't figure out how to do do this...or how to navigate when lost back to where I started. Hope this makes sense...Cheers!
I was just wondering why there is such a difference in map detail on all 3 devices. When is the Garmin map being used? When is the Komoot map being used? Or is the Komoot course being projected on the Garmin map? Do you really need a Garmin map when using Komoot?
You say that the Komoot connectivity is built into the Element units from day one. I've synched my Wahoo App to my Komoot account, but my Element Bolt doesn't show my saved Komoot routes. Any ideas? I've tried un-pairing/re-pairing, checking and installing any updates... nothing has been successful.
For Komoot, you will need to create an account and unlock any regions the route will go through. If the region isn't unlocked, the route will not sync to your ELEMNT. (does that help?)
your swift reply is much appreciated. Yes, apparently N/E Victoria/Southern NSW isn't an available region on Komoot. Strava breadcrumbs it will be. I'll have a bit of a play with Ride with GPS when I have some more time. Thanks again, Shane.
Shane, what’s your view on Strava these days? Specifically no more chronological rides & that they’re trying to turn it into a social media platform? The community doesn’t seem to approve.
+BadgerBadgerful It IS a social platform. I have no issue with the feed. Mainly because it’s just not that important to me. I’ll upload my rides, maybe I’ll flick though the list, whatever shows up I’m ok with. People are quite passionate about it though.
There's a Strava ConnectIQ app to do this from Strava routes also. Not sure I need another service to think about! Is Komoot route planner better than Strava's? Found Strava route planner easy to use and spot on 99% of the time
I ditched the Strava planner once I found out it stripped the cues for navigation, a show stopper for turn-by-turn on the Elemnt. Komoot app on the phone is handy for routes/re-routes on the fly. I'll loop back to the Strava Connect IQ app when I have the chance.
Ah fair play! Don't use turn by turn stuff on 520 so wasn't aware of that. Just played with the Komoot planner but miss the heatmap functionality /ride aggregation algorithm of the Strava planner! Is Komoot doing this behind the scenes do you know (not sure if it can if you can't not upload ride data to Komoot? Guess that's where Strava are leveraging their rich pool of data)
Just wondering how much space these apps take up on rhe 520. Also, whats your take on the 820 halo around the edge of thr screen which i just noticed yours has. Its a hot topic on the 820 forums.
Excellent. I assume it'd strip the cues out (Because that's what they do), but the Garmin puts them back with it's own navigational function on the head unit. I'll dive into this if I get a spare moment. Cheers for the update.
This looks pretty awesome, thanks for making this vid. I've never bothered with komoot before but now I may give it a go. I should just try it myself to see, but do you know if the routes downloaded come with course points or not?
@@gplama Is it the course points that get you the arrows / distance to next turn etc? Is that automatic or you must have them set as waypoints on komoot? Trying to figure out if I should pick up a Edge 530.
@@simonwaite2381 If you plot a course in Komoot it should generate the cues/turn by turn information itself. No need to keep manually inputting waypoints.
I have been using the Strava Courses connect iq app for my 520 for a couples of months. Works in a similar fashion but don't think it stores the course on the head unit?
Shane Miller nope 👎 not in my courses. When I select a course on the connect iq app it doesn't download like the kamoot one seems to, it looks like it seems to do some kind of syncing process with your Strava account on your phone each time you load a course.
Hmm, on my Garmin Edge 1000 it seems to store them... I once thought it didn't, but then found it under courses. But maybe the larger storage of the 1000 helps.
M9IN0G must admit - for the limited storage on the 520; this is probably better than storing the course on the device. The other 'gripe' I have with the Strava Course iq app is that it only seems to give me the option to select half a dozen of the dozens of courses I have created. 🤔
Uh....whats the matter with course creation on Garmin Connect? Map My Ride? Ride with GPS? I don't really use the bigger for navigation except for events and all the events I have attended lately have the routes available for download in .GPX at the very least. So again, Garmin Connect and save to device.
Great video - thanks for the overview. Confused why I would ever use this functionality over an iPhone or AppleWatch. I ditched my Garmin (for running) when the Apple GPS watch came out. Much better UX and is multi-purpose. I find the stand alone purpose built hardware devices to be useless for the 98% of recreational athletes. Thanks again for the share!
New videos from Luescher Teknik, Cycling Maven *and* GPLama! Oh what a wonderful day!
I swear, the character on your T-shirt could read my mind 😳
Went out today and got lost. I have garmin 810 at the moment and tried to route myself back home... however it didn't take me on a sensible route. So i pulled out kamoot on my phone and used that. My question / video idea! How easy and more sensible would a 830 do it? or is using something like kamoot and syncing on the fly to a garmin 530 or 520plus a more cost effective way?? I know you can do it straight on the 830 but wondered how much difference just using a 3rd party app might make.
Had to turn my phone volume up and go purely on the voice commands which was actually quite good but did miss a couple of turns first time.
This is good to know and useful if I fancy doing anything on the fly when out and about, thanks. That said I'm still stuck on Ride with GPS, partly because I'm used to how it works but moreover because it integrates Google Street View when you're planning. I really want to see what I'm planning to ride down and get a feel for it. It also flags potentially non road bike friendly surfaces too where the Google-mobile couldn't get down.
I’m considering the new Garmin Montana 750i for trekking and trails. Do you know if it is compatible with Garmin iq app? I would like ride with gps routes from Komoot, Strava and Ride with gps. Thanks
yes please ! there used to be a great app called the Wahoo/Strava segment app which allowed you to simply ride any segment on your Kickr. It has disappeared? I would love a vlog on how to use your Garmin to ride a IRL course on your Kickr :)
Thank you
B.T.
How do I load maps that I have on Komoot onto my garmin 820?
Maybe I am missing something (probably) but I really cannot see the advantage of Komoot for anything but road cycling and then I am still struggling to see the value. What am I missing?
MTB routes, running routes, route sharing.... value is different for everyone. What I was looking into here (and what I made the video about) was a way to wirelessly sync routes go Garmins with the Connect IQ app.
How did you get Koomoot working in Aus. It still won’t let me ‘buy’ anywhere near Brisbane :(
Hi there, do you need to buy the premium version so you can transfer trails on your fenix 5?
So circumvoluted ! Ride With GPS website and app all the way for me. (PS: would you do a review of the navigation with Ride With GPS on your mobile compared to those "dedicated" units ?)
I was wondering how you can upload/download a new course to your Garmin in the middle of a ride? For example, you've started your Garmin when you left your hotel and 50 miles later you decide it's time to go back. You open your phone and create a route on your phone on Komoot. How do you then upload that route on to your Garmin in the middle of a ride so you can navigate back to the hotel? I'm using a Garmin 1030 and for the life of me I can't figure out how to do do this...or how to navigate when lost back to where I started. Hope this makes sense...Cheers!
Route to start is what you’re after here. That should be on the navigation menus.
I was just wondering why there is such a difference in map detail on all 3 devices. When is the Garmin map being used? When is the Komoot map being used? Or is the Komoot course being projected on the Garmin map? Do you really need a Garmin map when using Komoot?
You say that the Komoot connectivity is built into the Element units from day one. I've synched my Wahoo App to my Komoot account, but my Element Bolt doesn't show my saved Komoot routes. Any ideas? I've tried un-pairing/re-pairing, checking and installing any updates... nothing has been successful.
Yes.. arh... there's something I recall that's needed to kick it into action. Let me have a tinker and I'll get back to you.
For Komoot, you will need to create an account and unlock any regions the route will go through. If the region isn't unlocked, the route will not sync to your ELEMNT. (does that help?)
your swift reply is much appreciated. Yes, apparently N/E Victoria/Southern NSW isn't an available region on Komoot. Strava breadcrumbs it will be. I'll have a bit of a play with Ride with GPS when I have some more time. Thanks again, Shane.
My reply from them last week was that Australia is an unlocked/free region, so it should work. Feel free to ping them with a support ticket.
Shane--how are you liking the 935? Are you finding the recovery and training load metrics helpful/useful?
Using it as a smartwatch at the moment.... and a few runs. Not enough to make any use of the recovery metrics or loads.
Does this still work fine when you have more than 100 routes on komoot, or is it then to slow?
I don’t have 100 ‘moot routes to test this one.
Shane, what’s your view on Strava these days? Specifically no more chronological rides & that they’re trying to turn it into a social media platform? The community doesn’t seem to approve.
+BadgerBadgerful It IS a social platform. I have no issue with the feed. Mainly because it’s just not that important to me. I’ll upload my rides, maybe I’ll flick though the list, whatever shows up I’m ok with. People are quite passionate about it though.
There's a Strava ConnectIQ app to do this from Strava routes also. Not sure I need another service to think about! Is Komoot route planner better than Strava's? Found Strava route planner easy to use and spot on 99% of the time
I ditched the Strava planner once I found out it stripped the cues for navigation, a show stopper for turn-by-turn on the Elemnt. Komoot app on the phone is handy for routes/re-routes on the fly. I'll loop back to the Strava Connect IQ app when I have the chance.
Ah fair play! Don't use turn by turn stuff on 520 so wasn't aware of that. Just played with the Komoot planner but miss the heatmap functionality /ride aggregation algorithm of the Strava planner! Is Komoot doing this behind the scenes do you know (not sure if it can if you can't not upload ride data to Komoot? Guess that's where Strava are leveraging their rich pool of data)
Strava IQ app works great on the Edge 1030, turn by turn directions, and live segments both work great!!
Just wondering how much space these apps take up on rhe 520. Also, whats your take on the 820 halo around the edge of thr screen which i just noticed yours has. Its a hot topic on the 820 forums.
+Billy K Only a few kB I believe. Re: The 820 halo..... let’s leave that alone for now. I have nothing nice to say about it.
They replaced mine. But it was still under warranty.
Now 5/19. Is Komoot only for garmin? There is garmin connect but not any mention about Wahoo. Do i get garmin or find some other map route app😗🤔😬
Wahoo head units can by synced to Komoot.
Shane Miller - GPLama
I Finaly find it. Route and komoot was on under ”workout”🤔
New update and bad user (me) error😁
have you mentioned the Strava Connect IQ App before?
Not something I've looked into.
Shane Miller works the same way. Create a course on Strava and sync it to your device.
Excellent. I assume it'd strip the cues out (Because that's what they do), but the Garmin puts them back with it's own navigational function on the head unit. I'll dive into this if I get a spare moment. Cheers for the update.
This looks pretty awesome, thanks for making this vid. I've never bothered with komoot before but now I may give it a go.
I should just try it myself to see, but do you know if the routes downloaded come with course points or not?
It should keep the cues in place, I'd be surprised if it doesn't.
@@gplama Is it the course points that get you the arrows / distance to next turn etc? Is that automatic or you must have them set as waypoints on komoot? Trying to figure out if I should pick up a Edge 530.
@@simonwaite2381 If you plot a course in Komoot it should generate the cues/turn by turn information itself. No need to keep manually inputting waypoints.
@@gplama much appreciated 😊
I have been using the Strava Courses connect iq app for my 520 for a couples of months. Works in a similar fashion but don't think it stores the course on the head unit?
Interesting. Check the stored courses if you have a minute and let us know if it does. I'd hope it does.
Shane Miller nope 👎 not in my courses. When I select a course on the connect iq app it doesn't download like the kamoot one seems to, it looks like it seems to do some kind of syncing process with your Strava account on your phone each time you load a course.
Hmmmm! Thanks for the follow up. I'll have to tinker with this when I have the spare cycles.
Hmm, on my Garmin Edge 1000 it seems to store them... I once thought it didn't, but then found it under courses. But maybe the larger storage of the 1000 helps.
M9IN0G must admit - for the limited storage on the 520; this is probably better than storing the course on the device. The other 'gripe' I have with the Strava Course iq app is that it only seems to give me the option to select half a dozen of the dozens of courses I have created. 🤔
Uh....whats the matter with course creation on Garmin Connect? Map My Ride? Ride with GPS?
I don't really use the bigger for navigation except for events and all the events I have attended lately have the routes available for download in .GPX at the very least.
So again, Garmin Connect and save to device.
Great video - thanks for the overview. Confused why I would ever use this functionality over an iPhone or AppleWatch. I ditched my Garmin (for running) when the Apple GPS watch came out. Much better UX and is multi-purpose. I find the stand alone purpose built hardware devices to be useless for the 98% of recreational athletes. Thanks again for the share!