Biman DC-10-30 S2-ACO Takeoff from Kathmandu - Window View
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- Window view from Biman Bangladesh Airlines McDonnell Douglas DC-10-30 registration S2-ACO during takeoff from Kathmandu's Tribhuvan International Airport (KTM), Nepal. Operating flight BG702 to Dhaka (DAC), Bangladesh on 3rd August 2012.
My first flight was on a United DC-10 in 1974 from Boston to Los Angeles. I was 12 years old, and they let my stand in the cockpit doorway. I remember the dials and what was then state of the art display, the three throttles, and three very friendly crewmen. "You can step closer in and look over my shoulder if you want to see out the window."
There will never be a time like that again.
Agreed. My first DC-10 flights were r/t United 20, SFO to BOS and back in '90-91, then PDX to ORD. Also, flew NW DC-10s, SEA to DTW and back. Nice plane. Sad to know that they are gone now, likely to never come back into commercial service again.
A DC-10 in the 70s... you're braver than I am.
Amazing that these DC 10s are still flying smooth, there is something about old day technology (not taking away pilot skill)
Most DC-10s + MD-11's are flown for transporting air cargo, no more human passengers flying on any of these legacy jets to my best belief. The tri-jets were retired from service. Biman was the last airline flying it up until a few years ago, ~ early 2014. NW flew them til ~ '08, I think.
Wonderful video of an wonderful aircraft. I love the DC-10. I flown so much in the last 20 years but I never felt so well as in a DC-10. Powerful and smooth and very comfortable. I miss this great plane.
good comments. The DC-10s were "better", after all of their kinks and past issues were addressed and resolved. Real fuel hogs too.
Vintage gold! I flew many DC-10's when they were in service. Nothing like it- great memories. Thanks for your post!
Agreed, vintage gold of the legacy DC-10-30 tri-jets. Biman was last airline to fly them; Northwest was last North American airline to have and fly the legacy DC-10s (30 series, I presume). I flew mostly on Northwest DC-10s, with a couple of occasions on United.
3:03 That sound :D
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Amazing. I love it.
that screeching sound at the start gets me every time. I still remember, when I was a child I got scared by the sound cause I didn't expect the engine to roar up. DC-10 is the plane that I rode for the first time.
Indeed 😌
Nothing like the DC-10 when it comes to acceleration. But that good old DC-10 hum is enough to rattle the fillings out of your mouth !!!!
This? th-cam.com/video/Z8njZIIAmf0/w-d-xo.html
L1011 is superior in every way
Right on! DRRrrrRRrrrRRRrrrrrOOOOooOOoOoooOooOOooOOoooNnnnNnnNnneeeeee...
@@NuGanjaTron ...
@@hArDsTyLe2259 wth! how do u know I was looking for this sound?
I have flown on quite a number of DC-10s and MD-11s on American and United Airlines. The last time I was on one was in 1999 on an overnighter flight from Oahu to San Francisco on North West. It's first class was amazing, flat seated beds, modern entertainment system, it was a beautiful plane. I miss the DC-10, it was a very comfortable and beautiful plane.
Love the drone of the engine.
I always loved that powerful sound of the General Electric CF-6-50 turbofans and how impressive it was! I miss the DC-10!
@Trumpispoop yeah, it's sad to see how the 747 suffered through its operating times...
Gives you an idea of just how far forward those engines hang!
Beautiful sounding CF6-50C engines!!!! Especcially at 4:14!!!
What an awesome video! This is the perfect angle and the engines sound amazing. I like how the wings look from this view also. If I had one more pass on the DC-10 this would definitely be the view to get. My last DC-10 flight was on NWA flying DTW - LGW back in 1999 I believe. It was at night and way before I had a digital camera so sadly I have nothing to remember it by. Thanks for bringing the unique colors of classic passenger aviation back to life :)
This is truly a spectacular and rare video. Really excellent! Great job.
Agreed with that. A great, rare video of one of the last DC-10s flown at the time. No more known DC-10s in service, commercially.
An old video, with a sound I miss so much 😌
Amazing video!! Look at the old lady climbing like a rocket!! Ahhh!! the beauty of an overpowered big jet!!
I flew on one in 1977 from SFO to Miami. We were fully loaded (so were me and my friend) and I was looking out the window during takeoff. It seemed to take a very long time to lift off...I was getting concerned. Finally, it raised up and off we went. Later, my friend found out the plane was a "weaker version" of the DC-10. The airline was National Airlines. My friend used to fly World Airways...lots of DC-10's.
sunking2001 National operated mostly series 10; they have less power, but also a smaller Max Take off weight (MTOW), so their performance is as good as the heavy 30 or 40 version. What may have happened, is that DC10 has a Flex Take off mode that after calculating weight, wind, temp, and runway length, offers the pilot the minimum safe figure for reduced thrust take off (including all safety parameters). This prolongs engine life and when done properly it is a totally safe practice. It means that if instead of a normal heavy 110% N1 rpm, you can take off at say 96% N1 rpm, which means a longer take off run. When followed consistently, especially in Domestic flights that rarely go at full weight, the maintenance savings are important.
sobelou Thanks for the information...I fully understand what you explained. I always thought big jets like this one took off to get air born ASAP in case the take-off had to be aborted. My friend, who was a flight attendant for World Airways, explained there is a marker/light on the runway specifically lit for that aircraft. If the plane is not air-born at that point...the takeoff must be aborted. Is that true or did I misunderstand something?
sunking2001 Thank you for your kind words. Regarding your question, it isn't a fixed point on the runway, it is a speed, called V1 or decision speed. V1 varies depending on aircraft type, of course, but the important factors are take off weight, available power, runway length, outside temperature and wind strength and direction. When V1 is calculated, it simply means that after you reach that speed, you are committed to take off as there is simply not enough runway ahead of you to stop the airplane. Let's say that a typical V1 is 130 knots, so any failure before you reach that speed will mean that you can stop the aircraft using all means: brakes, spoilers and reverse thrust. But even if you lose an engine after V1, you must continue the take off. Fortunately all modern jets can continue the take off even if an engine is lost at or after V1, although just enough for a shallow rate of climb that you will allow you to return for an emergency landing.
sobelou Great explanation. But, how does the captain know if the aircraft is taking too much time to achieve V1 compared to how much runway length is remaining? Does the on-board computer set off alarms alerting the captain of this? The night of our flight we were departing on one of the eastbound runways at SFO. After the runway ends there is the bay. I guess that could be a good thing as opposed to smashing into buildings and freeways. BTW...news is starting to come out of the downed jet in Malaysia...alarms were "screaming" at the captain as he attempted to climb beyond the aircraft's abilities.
I had flown with DC-10 several times in the early 2000's. The smell of late 70s and 80s seat clothing with oily windows and it was a wonderful machine back then.
That engine really sticks out far!!!
I think some of the issues with the DC 10 was that is was rushed into production because of the competition with the Lockheed L1011 coming out soon. Of course the L1011 was a far superior aircraft but cost way more than a DC10. After Douglas fixed all of the issues with the DC10 it became a pretty good old workhorse.
Great comments and perspectives, on the legacy DC-10s vs. L1011 tri-jets. Both were good wide-body jets, albeit Douglas did rush their DC-10s and had post-launch issues with engines, hydraulics, cargo doors, etc.
Never been to Kathmandu - great view of the city - well taped....thanks
The first DC-10 I ever saw was Wardair Canada at NCL in 1985 when I was 5 years old. Your username just reminded me of that, since we are talking DC-10s!
I love how the engine powers up before going onto the runway
Wow, it was a full blast!
It's been 20 years since I've flown on a DC-10, and as much as I miss them, I don't think I would feel safe flying with this airline. Nice video, though.
That DC10 is fantastic because of the fantastic engine noise
Great video, I once flew on an Air Lanka Tri Star back in '98, it was 4R-ULE , it should of been one of the then new A340s , but they were updating the computers, so we went out on the Tri Star. I loved it , it was also very quiet, I expected it to be noisy with the engine sat on the rear of the fuselage, but it wasn't.
very fast acceleration on the DC-10-30 compared to most airplanes of similar size, very impressive actualy....great clip...
Rocky Dans most DC10 aircraft had very good short runway performance.
@@chrisparsons3367 Agreed, and good point. Many DC-10s had good takeoff performance to get airborne. Engine sound is ~ 100% of that of former NW DC-10s, likely using the same engines as former NW DC-10s and United DC-10s, my best guess.
@@DH111d: that depends. NWA used a mix of DC-10-40s (AKA DC-10-20) that were delivered new and DC-10-30s that were purchased secondhand much later. The DC-10-20/40s used PW JT9D engines while the -30s used the same CF6 as other operators. I can tell you the DC-10-40s were woefully underpowered by modern standards as the JT9D-20 was a very early high bypass engine. A DC-10-30 with the CF6-50 would have had about 21,000lb more thrust at its disposal than a DC-10-40 with the JT9D-20.
Do not confuse Northwest's DC-10-40 (again, actually DC-10-20) with the much later JAL version with JT9D-59A which was comparable in performance to the CF6-50.
With respect to acceleration, that's very hard to compare from a TH-cam video without knowing the weight, runway length, and calculated power settings used (we can calculate the rotor speed from the sound of the clip, but that would be a deep dive I don't have time for at the moment). Most people assume that every takeoff in every airplane is conducted at maximum power all of the time, and that's simply not true. Generally, operators use as little flap and as much runway as possible to ensure a higher takeoff speed and better initial climb performance while using as little power as possible to save on engine wear. 80% on the N1 rotor at takeoff is not uncommon on modern jet airliners when the situation allows.
In other words: when you have enough runway, you want to use as much of it as you can get away with.
What I can tell you is that, based on other takeoff videos and my memory of flying on NWA DC-10-30s, this takeoff was conducted at the higher end of the RPM range. VNKT has a 10,000 foot runway, but the airport is 4,300 ft or so above MSL, nearly a mile up. This takeoff was also conducted in August. We can reasonably call this a "hot and high" operation, so it's not surprise that they were trying to accelerate as quickly as possible. They simply needed to.
So what are we comparing it to in terms of other airplanes of similar size? A 767 that had comparable runway but loaded lighter and used a lower power setting because they could get away with it? An L1011 departing from ATL at nearly sea level? An A330 using FLEX in the winter? You can see how this becomes a complicated situation very quickly.
I have flown on the DC-9 and 10 and I’m still here!! Great video!! Thanks for the upload!! I might have missed it but where were you flying to? 🛫✈️🛬
Same here, as I also flew on Douglas DC-9s and also DC-10s, mostly NW Airlines. I survived, NW/NWA did not, as Delta took them over and NW merged into Delta's operations.
Lucky you.. the best plane I ever flown on was a 737 500
Now that was some 30 degrees pitch takeoff!
Last flight I took on a DC-10 was in February 1999 - was 9 going on 10 and taking a trip JFK-LAX with my older brother to visit my grandma... an American Airlines DC-10-10. Miss it. I sat window seat 4th row back from the overwing exit.
Very nice. Thanks for sharing!
Running this video using a 1000 watt amp and a quality bass speaker is ah.......pretty thrilling. That incredible deep, deep, grinding sound goes right to your spine. I can't see a DC-10 takeoff video of a wing and engine without thinking of AA191 crashing in Chicago. You can almost see the entire #1 engine pod ripped out and flying backwards over the right wing. If you haven't seen the Mayday Air Crash Investigation of 191 look for it on TH-cam, incredible.
It was the port(left) engine & pylon combo that fell off the Chicago departure in 1979.
I always like the charred remains of a tri jet tail section.
3:03 that’s a fantastic sound
Agreed! That roar is amazing.
Nice video.. If only DC-10s flew in and out of Kathmandu in 2018.. It would be a Trijet sight to see.. 😊🙏
Watching again in 02 Feb 2021.. Very nice window view 😊✌
Wonderful Sound!
Very nice 👍👍
This SOUND is AWESOME!!!!!
Yep, sound is awesome, on this legacy jumbo jet, the DC-10. It was a work-horse for many legacy airlines.
Great video and audio of one of the last flown DC-10s (30 or 40 series?). Biman was last airline to fly the DC-10; NW Airlines was last North American carrier flying the DC-10's (30 series, I think).
-30 and -40. They tended to use the -30 on international flights and the -40 on domestic flights at that time. The DC-10-40 as used by NW was originally delivered as the DC-10-20 and was used on intercontinental routes at the time, but the higher performance of the -30 was simply too hard for them to ignore, and in later years they were rarely used on international routes.
I miss flying in these back in the 90’s when I was a little kid. Too bad the ones still flying are all cargo planes.
Amazing, love the DC-10
Man, that's a quiet takeoff, or is it just the camera?
Great videos too. I'm subscribing! =)
The two (2) DC-10-30s of Biman Bangladesh Airlines are to be phased out in November 2013.
Sad but the Last pme retired three days ago. Even on CNN. Miss it already.
DC10's haul-ass down the runway! It's an awesome plane.
It's always kind of weird when these videos are focused right at the wing and engine. I get it.. awesome wing and engine, and a unique design, but I'd also like to see a bit of unobstructed Kathmandu scenery.
Love that roar when it takes off
Yup, that "roar" is something else, on those large GE engines. Jumbo jets needed those large turbo-fan engines to get these legacy jumbo jets flying. RIP, DC-10 + MD-11 jumbo jets.
It looks like they could be around another couple of years, from what I have been told by Pilots on the last few trips. There should be 2 active this week, S2-ACO & ACP.
Goodness gracious. This plane accelerates like it's on steroids!
flymajj....i worked for Wardair for ten years from November 1980. Was the best job, with the best people. Still keep in touch with some former colleagues.
I am from the north-east and lived near NCL airport when I was about 9 to 13. I live abroad now but go back once or twice a year.
Beautiful aircraft I wason dc10 la from Newark airport co flight 55
There goes the left engine/cargo door/ fan disk !
Awesome. Thanks for posting
That is a steep climb!
Yeah. Himalaya is right in front of them :)
Yup, a pretty steep climb up for sure.
Brillaint! Biman's the only DC-10 passenger operater in the world currently.
Biman was the last one flying the DC10 at time. Northwest was the last North American airline flying the legacy DC-10s. RIP, NW.
je ne m en lasse jamais de cette avion merci de ce partage
Biman Bangladesh has a DC-10-30 in service, but it will be phased out in November. World Airways has an MD-11, which is close in design also.
I love my Bangladesh.
If I am not mistaken, the Biman DC-10-30 were purchased from Pakistan International Airlines.
Correct!
Superb!
Great video: very spectacular. Well done.
this was the 2nd widebody passenger jet after the 747. the DC 10 has been described as an unforgiving aircraft in some circumstances
Awesome my favorite airplane and MD 11... which is really a souped-up DC-10
In my opinion, these DC-10’s are quieter and a lot more pleasant to fly on than the obnoxious CFM-LEAP-1A/B/C engines. These are even quieter than the CF6-80 engines. CF6-50 engines for the win!
Is it me or was the dc10 the hardest rotation to lift of any passenger jet. I loved it.
Are you? I didnt know you were a local lad. How much longer will biman have the dc10?
Sad to see the older aircraft retiring,making way for the new and crap computer operated ones
Yes it is :( My first airplane ride ever was on a premiair Dc-10 from Stockholm Arlanda to Canary islands in 1999. I got no memories from the flight because I was a 4 months old baby. But my parents are aviaton and cruise boats nerds to. Just like me.
boffis123 Or Im not so intrested in cruise ships but I am intrested in airplanes. Sry if I spelled everything wrong :/
The DC-10 was full of failures, why do you think they made the MD-11?
NoobyGamez not failures but poor maintenance...nothing was wrong with the dc 10’s system
CoCkerzz_ How can you just ignore the obvious. DC-10’s design was flawed and rushed so they ended up designing a better and safer one hoping they could dominate the market again which never worked out.
Wow very old school Dc-10 still flying ppl around the world .... says very dependable aircraft! !!!
wow...nearly 30 years and it still goin strong....
For me, the first time was on a Continental Airlines Dc10-30. From Nadi , Fiji back to Sydney, Australia. I seem to recall in ecco that it was 2x5x2, or at least I think it was.
They didn’t lie, and I knew it, that is the quietest plane in the 70s you’ve ever flown😁😅
wasnt the l-1011 quieter?
I didn't know they used these anymore
very nice take off, i never flue on the DC either. I dont think there was much different between that and the lockeed Tristar.
Oh really, NCL is my local airport, do you come often?
so which plane was the one with notorious problems? was it the md10 or the dc10?
Ian Mccown Dc-10, but this Dc-10-30 is safe because Lockheed fixed all of the problems on this variant
+Hey Yey dont you mean Douglas?
@@boffis123 It is (or was) Douglas Aircraft, becoming McDonnell Douglas. RIP, old DC-10 fleets of legacy airlines, including NW/NWA (Northwest Airlines), Continental Airlines, among other legacy airlines. Lockheed made the semi-equivalent L-1011 jumbo jet flown by Delta, TWA, and other legacy airlines.
The MD10 Is A DC10 With An MD11 Cockpit Set up
Nice video, thanks.
Excellent!!
I recall my first and only DC-10 flight was on American...I was too young to really think about it...flying JFK-MBJ...normally an A300-6...well wouldnt ya know it when we were all strapped I glanced at the safety card and say :DC-10-30"...I had no idea until that point, but I was so happy!!
2:55 you're welcome
I miss the DC-10s
Awesome!
❤️Biman Bangladesh Airlines
Those slats were extended a long ways up
Smooth climb ....................
AWESOME SUPERB VIDEO! I GUESS THEY HAVE TO CLIMB OUT FAST SO THEY LEAVE THE FLAPS AND SLATS EXTENDED LONGER?
Well, there is a 29,000 ft. obstacle...
Very cool!
when are airplane engines gonna sound this good ever again? maybe never?
Biman has only 4 DC-10's left! Hurry up folks!
Long flap deploy, I guess to make steep climb out.
Very very nice!
What is the traffic pattern at this airport?
why the hell did the pilot fire up the engines when he wasn't on the runway????
I think you're exaggerating a mite, this is one heavy airframe, the pilot did not fire up the throttle (engines) on the taxiway, he merely added a little power to maintain the DC-10s movement. It's also possible that he added some power to the #3 engine to make the left turn onto the runway. The selective use of #1 or #2 to turn the aircraft left or right works great and avoids heating up the brakes.
Bobby Paluga A DC-10 is some wired aircraft,
and has an excellent record of crashing, its worth buying the plane XD . going onto the turning thing, wouldn't that burn the front wheel?
+foe moe If you needed to add power to turn the airplane around, why the hell would you waste time (and runway) idling the engines only to spool them up again?
ErickC my comment is so old, I dont know why you responded to it
incredible climb
ive flown in one before... very quiet engines surprisingly. not like the other planes how their engines scream
How does this death trap get more popular than the flawless l1011?
Sometimes I wonder how are these DC-10's still flying
beautiful.
Ha ha ha, fuck the A340, we've got the DC-10!
Eradicate999 well most of that is human error, the a340 may be a modern one but it certainly is not a beauty such as the DC 10!
Both are one of my favourite aircraft of all time
Imagine being over the wing then watching an engine part company .
Why did Biman Airlines retire it's MD-10/DC-10 Jets
Too old and inefficient
when even bangladesh retires their dc-10s, you know you shouldnt be flying them anymore.
I'll be glad to fly out of that shit hole too.