Isaac Newton, considered by many to be the greatest scientist of all time, once declared: "Atheism is so senseless and odious to mankind that it never had many professors." Things have obviously changed since the time of Newton, because there are now many atheists. But do you agree with him that atheism is "senseless and odious"? Why or why not?
Yes...totally senseless cuz everything is so perfectly intertwined with each other , it's surreal !! It's only the self importance that makes them atheists and disown God . With God, obedience is a must !
@@scottedwards1209 Yeah, I've had atheists tell me, "Even if God exists, I'd rather burn in hell than believe in him." Seems like an emotional issue masquerading as an intellectual issue.
how are you going to make a video about the "cult like behavior of atheists", who think they are all "smarter than everyone else", AND then come down in the comments and take about how Isaac Newton, thinks atheists are dumb? Kind of hypocritical of you.
@@apologeticsroadshow Im an athiest and If this is true, this is the dumbest thinking I've ever heard . I hope u can appreciate that most athiest don;t think like this. If there really is a hell out there then ofcourse I want to be convinced and avoid it.
I was a "New Atheist" and truth be told it was an act of rebellion no matter how much we insisted it wasn't. It wasn't intellectual, it wasn't principled, it was just a club to join that let you insult people in the other club with impunity.
How can I take you seriously, when you SERIOUSLY believe that your deity killed first borns? Please please, give the me the apologetic spin how it was actually good for your deity to kill children... go ahead.
@@gide5489my man… that is the most cult crap I’ve ever heard. The Concept of an Almighty is entirely separate from a Deity. That’s like confusing a Cookie for an Internet Cookie because they have the same spelling. Monotheists may disagree on how God behaves and what he wants but they generally agree that the others just view the same Almighty incorrectly and not that they believe in a separate person.
This really goes back to the gospel. The Pharisees were witnesses to countless miracles performed by Christ but still refused to believe in Him due to the hardness of their hearts.
His own disciples didn't believe Him when He appeared to them from the grave. Thomas needed to put his fingers through the holes of His hands to believe he was speaking with the risen Christ.
His own disciples didn't believe Him when He appeared to them from the grave. Thomas needed to put his fingers through the holes of His hands to believe he was speaking with the risen Christ. Don't expect an atheist to believe when given evidence either.
I was an atheist, I realized that I was making choices to ignore certain information, and surrounded myself with the information that supported my belief. At that I time, I didn't know God. That He is good, that He wants to guide, and talk to me and be with me through my life. I prayed one night after having my life fall completely apart, I asked God if You are real, can You help me? Can You show me Your real? He answered both in an amazing way which left no doubt. Now I spend time in His presence each day and am strengthened by His word. Now I am really living. You can know God. He is waiting for your invitation. God doesn't go against free will. So if you push God away, he stays away. When you draw near to Him, He draws near to you. If you are an Atheist reading this, ask God. Prayer is talking, ask God to show You that He is real. He is waiting on you, not the other way around. My life is so good now, my only regret is waiting so long because of a lie. Ask and you will receive. Richard Dawkins will never know God until He is willing to ask.
@@nous2000 If you stretch out your hand to heal, and the person is healed, it was God who healed--through you. Same with the Scriptures. Men wrote under the inspiration of God.
@@nous2000 you have allowed your heart to deceive your mind. "The heart is deceitfully wicked above all things, who can know it". The Bible can be proven. You have no proof to back what you say. Jesus Christ is the only way.
If Dawkins was a forensics criminologist looking at a bloody murder scene he would be like "well I can see that there is evidence of a dead body in front of me with multiple knife wounds...but it could just be a hallucination and besides, I'm not even sure I would even believe the evidence anyways"
Supernatural claims require supernatural evidence. Murders are not supernatural. The reasonable doubt for supernatural claims is much higher than for rather trivial claims like the occurrence of murders, since murders actually happen. I haven't even seen a talking bush yet, other than George W. and George H. W.
Your god, according to scripture, intentionally kept his children ignorant (NEGLIGENCE), left them alone, unsupervised where his most formidable enemy could get at them (GROSS NEGLIGENCE), got very angry (LACK OF EMOTIONAL MATURITY), blaming his children for the consequences (DEFLECTION OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY) and cursed not only his children (ABUSE), but their offspring ad infinitum (GUILT BY ASSOCIATION). IT GETS WORSE… Generations later, god, according to scripture, forced his followers to torture and murder and innocent man (CULT OF HUMAN SACRIFICE) and then celebrate/memorialize this event macabre by consuming the victims’ flesh and blood symbolically (CANNIBALISTIC IDEATION & RITUALIZATION) in order to be free from the UNEARNED punishment their creator had inflicted upon them in a fit of misdirected rage. And finally, this “vicarious redemption” (to put lipstick on a pig) is so all encompassing as to be morally ABSURD because it says Jeffrey Dahmer is in Heaven after accepting Jesus as his Lord and Savior while his victims burn in Hell. The fact that all of this flies safely under your radar while you judge others harshly is sick and perverted.
I have never seen this dawkins clip before... it's like a C.S. Lewis story come to life. In The Last Battle, after the world of Narnia ends, the Dwarves who refused to take sides with either Good or Evil, refusing to believe in Aslan or Tash, sat in the paradise Aslan brought them to, but they squeezed their eyes shut, and convinced themselves that every sensory input was a hallucination, and that they were still in the dingy old shack they had been thrown into. I thought it was a bit of a cartoonish exaggeration of atheists, but... here we are.
Man, that was my favorite second to only the lion the witch and the wardrobe. I liked it a lot because it showed and reflected the world now. I could relate to it more because of the deception that is ongoing and the blindness so many people have. I recently lost my copy while reading it again ! 🥲😔😔😔😔
So if you see an angel tonight telling you that Joesph Smith was correct or Mohammed, you'd switch sides? Come on, be honest, there's no born-again out there that, if they saw the stars spell out, "Krishna is Lord!" would become Hindu. You'd claim it was a trick or something, am I right? Be honest. Since I was a hard-core missionary going pray-in-the-streets Evangelical ON FIRE Christian who loved Jesus with all my mind, heart, and soul I KNOW the answer here, even if you ignore me or deflect, you would NOT become a Hare Krishna. So, what Dawkins is saying is that an angel shouting or the stars spelling out words, etc., wouldn't convince him that the Abramic God was real, and he's got good reasons for this conviction. There are ways a God or gods could prove themselves (it would involve math, predicting the future, and it would be universal) that Dawkins or any athiest would be convinced that that god or God or gods existed. A god or God or gods could convince humans they (or him/her/it) existed. It would be easy to do, but it wouldn't take place as a light show magic trick of the kind you see in a Vegas show.
@@michaelsbeverlyThe flaw in this analogy is that believing a message in the stars saying Krishna is lord is false is completely consistent with the Christian worldview. Christians believe that the devil and demons are on a mission to deceive humans and turn them away from Christ. What better way to do this than to direct them to a false god? Please correct me if I'm wrong - I suspect from how you describe yourself that you know a lot more about these things than I do - but isn't this widespread deception and challenge to faith a component of the end times? Also, if you've theorized a formula or method that could definitively prove the existence of God you should contact Dawkins with that information, since he says here that he cannot imagine any type of evidence that could potentially convince him. I'm not at all being sarcastic here. He seems receptive to feedback from the public, and it would help him present a better argument if he could say, "THIS is something that would actually convince me", versus what we see here, where he presents as completely unpersuadable.
Uhhhhhh, not biblical though. I've seen atheists convert when presented with proof. They were hardcore atheists. I think this gives bad precedent into saying that atheists can't be saved.
@@michaelkearney3646 Honest skeptics who examine the evidence for Jesus' life, death and resurrection almost always become Christians. Its the people who aren't open to the truth who take little bits and pieces of fallacious arguments and weave them into a sort of shield to protect their egos and lifestyles who are the most annoying of all to deal with. "Many are called, but few are chosen".
He's perfectly describing me. I was so sure that God didn't exist, yet I NEVER looked into any of the reasons why the vast majority of humanity believed in God. I took my childish objections like, "well if God created the universe, who created God?" as complete takedowns of theism that somehow nobody has ever considered for millenia, either because they weren't as intelligent as me or they were just willfully blind. At the age of 28, for the first time in my life I admitted to myself that I never had actually looked into any of this, like ever lol. I would just stumble upon a talking point here and there and assume that there was no answers. Boy these religious people sure are stupid, I would think. Then I decided to actually look into this with a genuine open mind, and I first clicked on a William Lane Craig debate. Never heard of him in my entire life, and didn't even know apologetics was a thing. I was about as naive as humanly possible on religion. And I was absolutely blown away by how weak the arguments against theism were. I was thinking, "wtf? You guys are supposed to be the go-to people to debunk religion and this is all you have? Seriously??!!" I was kind of embarrassed because I was saying some of the same things the atheists were, and I saw how illogical and nonsensical those arguments were when they were answered by somebody who actually knows what they are talking about. Craig breezed through the debate and my jaw was on the floor. Two decades of my entire life, and I suddenly realized that I was so wrong about the most important, fundamental issue of existence. I have never been more humbled. It was the happiest day of my life. I literally, no joke, started jumping and dancing around because it was the first time in my life where I genuinely believed in God. I was absolutely overcome with joy that I found a gigantic part of reality that I didn't realize existed until that moment. It was truly a "scales from the eyes" moment if there ever was one. For a week straight I would break down into tears multiple times per day by just thinking about the majesty of creation, a sunset, or the trees blowing. I saw true beauty for the first time in my life. I saw that reality was drowning in goodness, truth, and beauty, and it was everywhere I looked. I was an absolute mess for that week. My world was flipped upside down. When I get down I think of the song "how can I keep from singing?", and I think back to that moment when i was jumping up and down in joy when I realized God is real, and I remember that God is still moving and there is somebody somewhere in the world who is having that same moment today and I feel that goodness all over again! Atheists think that "believing that God exists" is the finish line. God isn't looking for us to just believe that he exists in reality, he wants a relationship, so a booming voice from heaven may only achieve in convincing people that he exists, but wouldn't have any effect on building a relationship, and many still wouldn't believe. I think it would do quite the opposite. Many people would grow to hate him even more because now there is unequivocal proof that he exists and look at the way the world is. We would see things like Christians being taken hostage by groups all around the world as ransom in exchange for God righting some wrongs that they see in the world. It's not hard to envision, if you try, why it might be wise for God to give us just enough to have faith but not too much as to be complete proof. The pain of this world will draw out us a much deeper sense of love and beauty when we get to the other side. Just as it takes 9 months in the womb before the body is ready to enter this world, it may take a certain amount of time before the spirit is ready to enter heaven. It all makes perfect sense if you just take a minute to understand, and as an atheist I didn't take a single minute to understand. My mind was completely made up. It took the pains of this world to break my heart and to open it up to another world. It begins and ends in the heart.
Idk, can't really relate to when you're an atheist. But I think you were anti-theist before. I am not sure that god not exist and so far apologetic argument just not convinced me, actually it kinda convinced me more like... maybe there's is a god, but we in like a simulation. but I have not solid proof for both... Idk pray for me I guess... lol
@@darkira2129 just look into the validity of prophecies. And the ones that have come true in the last 80 years that was written down thousands of years ago. Only God would know the beginning to end. When I was a kid I had a out of body experience and a vision of Heaven on earth just like I’m chapter 21 in revelation and I haven’t even read it at the time. I was there and God revealed himself to me. One of the prophecies is that in the last days many many people would start to have visions. Just go on TH-cam and look up Jesus visions or rapture visions by Christian’s. It personally happened to me so I know for a fact God is real. But with the amount of testimonies there are of out of body experiences I’d say that’s more than sufficient evidence to see that there might be something to the Bible.
Sounds like we're dealing with a heart problem, not a head problem. We can't change hearts: but Christ could save even me. Thanks for what you do, David!
Amen brother. I'm a living miracle so I laugh when people say there is no evidence for God. They obviously didn't know me before and after. I'm walking evidence of the power of God and proof that he can work miracles from his throne
@@roberjohnsmith But were you sure God is real before the change in your life happened? You see, how could you expect atheists to begin to believe in God if you did not believe in God until God revealed Himself to you?
@@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid Of course it is. But please don't deceive yourself into thinking that the God question is answered based upon what you're able to rationalize in your intellect, or even what erroneous, fallible men conclude about God (for or against). If your preference is to live this life in sin, to "enjoy" what amounts to a grain of sand compared to eternity, as opposed to simply finding out sincerely about God with a willingness to follow Jesus Christ when he reveals himself to you, don't be surprised when this decision lands you in an eternal hell, which we all deserve.
The ending where David Wood mocking atheists saying " Show me the evidence, show me the evidence, thats no evidence!" was a perfect imitation of Matt Dillahunty xD
YOU CHRISTIANS HAD ABOUT 2000 YEARS TO PROVE /SHOW GREAT EVIDENCE OF YOUR GOD! ALL I HEAR IS PHILOSOPHY/WORD SALAD AT IT'S BEST . A MURDEROUS,GENOCIDAL, PRO-SLAVERY, RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC HATEFUL CULT AT IT'S WORST!!!! THE GOD OF THE BIBLE (WHITE JESUS) DON'T EXIST! IF HE DID HE COULD GO TO HELL!!!!!
I remember when I was a teenage atheist, watching Dawkins on youtube calling theists dumb while I was thinking "oH yES tHiS mAN smART RelIGION dUMb" and feeling superior to all those "dumb" believers. Oh man what a fool I was 😂😂
Me too, but I don't really have shame about it cause Jesus forgave me. I just use it to sympathize with them, and then in debates with them it always throws them off... A lot of times they say I wasn't a real atheist or that I haven't heard x argument against theism, which I always have. They sometimes just stop replying because they are unsure of how to respond.
Science has disproven the creation myth of genesis, disproven Noah’s flood, debunk the claim of the Tower of Babel and nowhere has any branch of science demonstrated any gods, let alone your favorite one. The Catholic Church is a criminal organization and is ask that you please remove yourself from such a corrupt business.
I've often thought it crazy how people will completely dismiss the existence of a God because they believe it fanciful, YET choose to believe in things that are (I'd argue) even more crazy.
"But he said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.'" (Luke 16:31 NASB20)
As a former atheist who used to regard Hitch as my personal hero this video had me rolling. "How did atheism go from Winnie the Pooh to Cocaine Bear almost overnight?" Looking forward to more videos sir!
"As a former atheist who used to regard Hitch as my personal hero"... LOL, nice one! Nobody that has the capacity to understand Hitchens thinks this idiotic video is good or solid meaningful content. And you almost certainly did not find religion by method of discovery, which Hitchens and fellow skeptics and scientists encourage. So if you were an atheist and skeptic or scientifically trained, either you did not actually understand the community that Hitchens belonged to and the methods they utilize, perhaps failed your scientific training, or a real life god came down in person and stood before you to give you the evidence required to know they are there. My guess is neither. Just a religious zealot acting.
@@Allin1Xaviread the everlasting man by Gk Chesterton, he's also a former atheist. It's a tough read but it'll help dismantle alot of atheist rhetoric
@@DN-wy3ud There are a lot of atheists in philosophy, you aren't gonna get much in the way of true understanding of either position from public speakers and politats. I did try to understand religious people and still think their arguments are fallacious up to and including their end goals which are implied but never stated outright and I doubt Apologetics Roadshow has ever had an original thought worth expressing in his entire life.
If humans are the single most important thing in the entire universe (so much so that even this supernatural being 'died' for us), then why has this supposedly all-powerful being never definitively presented himself or his message to us?. He always whispered in the brains of privileged "prophets". Suspicious (and please, don't say that the Bible is an historical factual book)
@@2l84me8 im not listing out the hundreds of arguments for Gods existence you can research that in your own time. What im saying is I have faith that the evidence i saw in favor for God existing. Just like you can have faith in the evidence that your pilot for the travel company you paid money for isnt going to purposely crash the plane for no reason.
At least not compared to new christianity which periodically loses its goddamn mind, I really hope you guys dont get any true power again.. Even y`all gon regret it.
As Sir Arthur Conan Doyle said, "Once You've eliminated the impossible, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truth." And as Sir Terry Pratchett colorfully added later, "the problem is in determining what is impossible."
Wood's First Law: "If you're going to reject an argument no matter how good or bad the argument is, then the fact that you reject the argument tells us absolutely nothing about whether the argument is good or bad."
Skepticism ad absurdum has been a defeater of atheism for centuries, it's only since the age of the internet that such a sophomoric mindset was able to metastasize to this degree
Unfortunately Wood seems to think that all of his arguments are brilliant… and then somehow has to rationalize why most of the people who are smarter than him disagree.😂
Agreed 👏🏻 Tried being an atheist for a year or 2. Gotta say It was one of the most depressing times of my life. Even after learning so much about atheism and doing all kinds of research my heart just couldn’t accept that God is not out there. I know for sure in my heart that there is God and he is tacking care of me all the time❤️So yeah after taking a break from atheism I then decided to believe in the “Universe” and stuff. I am absolutely not back to my religion. ie Islam. But I believe in one God. And trying to learn more about Christianity🙏🏼❤️
Don’t base your beliefs on feelings. Ask yourself, where is the credible evidence for God? If he existed and wanted us to believe in him, why wouldn’t he show himself to the world? Why does the supposed embodiment of moral goodness allow 14 children to die every minute as a part of his plan? Don’t fall for religious lies. Seek the truth based on evidence alone. You may not like it, but the truth is always preferable to lies.
@@ProsecutorZekrom “The truth is always preferable to lies” Oh the irony!! The fact is that militant atheism, that is fatalism and epistemological nihilism is a CULT movement hidden behind the cloak of “rationality” and scientism and materialism of the gaps fallacies that constantly uses anti religious Soviet hate propaganda left over from the Cold War, that is history revisionism and dishonest memes and buzz words to mock, badger and demonise anyone who challenges its myths and metaphysical presuppositions. It’s no different to debating a recruiter from the church of Scientology who just won’t leave you alone!! Equally, when you lie, stereotype, straw man and malign Christ and freedom of religious expression you are not raging against the MACHINE, you’re raging FOR THE MACHINE. Furthermore, demonising your political opponents by pretending that they are “LIARS” and a massive “PROBLEM” is an ancient propaganda tool that’s been used by everyone from medieval dictators, to serial killers to the Soviet Unions propaganda machine. “Death is the solution to all problems, no man no problem.” - (Joseph Stalin). Sorry but that is why every Communist regime was and is an ATHEISTIC state. And in particular a STATE which THREATENS, terrorises and KILLS countless numbers of religious people and monotheists in a very short time. The atheistic social experiment has been tried, tested, weighed and measured and has been found ultimately meaningless, ultimately nihilistic and an ultimately INHUMAN and HORRIFIC atheistic DYSTOPIAN NIGHTMARE straight out of Albus Huxleys “BRAVE NEW WORLD”!! As Karl Marx, coauthor of the The Communist Manifesto, declared….. “COMMUNISM BEGINS WHERE ATHEISM BEGINS” [karl Marx]. Prove me wrong!! I’ll wait!!
Keep seeking...keep praying, im sure you have heard the Gospel. God loves you and Christ died for you, He was buried and raised from the dead. Accept His gift and the same will happen for you. I will be praying for you and others in similar situations. God bless
@@ProsecutorZekromlol look it's an atheist trying to convert someone to their religion of atheism. You literally just shared the atheistic "gospel" with her. Hahaha you atheists are always trying to proselytize to people when no one asked you to, even though you all complain about us Christians when we do it. Hypocrites. 😂
@@wesbyEricoh look another uninvited atheist trying to simultaneously trying to shame and covert this poor lady at the same time! Wow, you guys are talented. Lol 😂
@Psalm i don't know for sure of the inexitence of god as much as i am not sure of the inexistence of the tooth fairy. Not a single, valid, undisprovable proof of god have been brought up, not a single time. why would you blindly believe what goes against science and fact that we discovered if not only because of the location and family you were born in? why don't you believe in islam instead and approve of muhammad as the messenger of Allah if you are so willing to believe anything without proof
So you saw them do it? Or you start to believe in that? Well thats the problem, yiu can convince yourself to believe what you never sqw or hear but you cant force anybody else to do the same. But amazing how religious peolle getting offened by people who wants proof for something? 😂 like go ahead and pray but if yiu git no proof say so, why getting butthurt over a FACT? 😂
I remember having a decision with a self described agnostic, and he said " do you have proof for god?" and so I went online to pull up different miracles from different cultures and try to string an argument with that im not the best at arguing but I felt the need to oblige him, but then he said shortly after that "even if I had direct evidence I wouldn't believe in God because he is mean" that's when I realized a lot of these guys are atheist by faith alone and proof isnt really going to do much for them.
@@chamicels There is a lot of faith in atheism. They have full faith in macro evolution (which has never been observed, and science is supposed to be observable and testable.) They believe there is no God. They will tell you that they "don't have enough evidence" to believe in God, and that they don't know if there is one, but then minutes later (with full confidence and arogance) will tell you that there is no God. At least micro evolution has observable proof out there, and so I believe it. But believing in macro evolution is even more of a fairy tale than the atheists tell us that God is.
@@chamicelsyes, everyone chooses to believe in anything. We believe in things everyday and don’t even realize. That’s how much we are built to have faith, whether people put faith in other people or situations or things. The most sensible place of putting your faith is in the actual Creator who wanted you here in the first place.
@@shayalynn My atheism is based on lack of evidence not faith. My faith in gravity is I have haven't floated off into space at least yet. Two different apples.
@@chamicelsI’d have to disagree. The de-facto position should be agnosticism. You’re placing faith in the idea that there isn’t a God. You’re declaring that idea.
"The Dawkins drone" - I love that. It's true, Ive met many of them. It's a waste of time talking with them, they totally and utterly 'believe' in materialism and they 'believe' that somehow atheism makes them superior.
I used to be a "new atheist" many years ago until I learned that the atheist heroes I looked up to were not infallible geniuses but instead were just like the rest of us (with the only difference being that they're better public speakers!). Once I actually started to try examining the evidence and arguments myself, it didn't take me long to leave atheism behind.
On Judgement Day, people like this will claim that God didn't try hard enough to convince them that He was real. They will spend eternity gnashing their teeth and crying about how unfair it all is, that they were never given a fair chance, forever blaming God for things caused by their own stubborn pride.
I remember once about 2009 seeing my teenage niece reject a prayer card from her Granny. It was the prayer of St Francis. She had the gall to say with utter spotty conviction that her Gran was 'abusive'! She won't be told what to do by any 'flying spaghetti monster' - Her Gran gave it to her because apparently the same niece had just said that she once experienced a ghost 🙄 It took all my strength to let my mum deal with her with love because let me tell you my toes were itching inside my shoe to plant one. Thankfully, she grew up and gets embarrassed these days that she got taken in so strong. She says that the main driving factor for her was a sense of 'superiority' from running with the crowd and a fear of being labelled 'dumb'. These days she thinks the 'New Atheists' and the movement are a very cringy part of her growing up.
So you get violently angry when someone disagrees with you. That doesn’t say anything good about you. Especially considering it’s a young girl. You hold children to the same standard as adults with a fully formed prefrontal cortex and decades of experience? You’re a 🤡
There is the old joke: A Protestant, a Catholic, and an Atheist in hell. The Protestant says: “I’m surprised; I didn’t think I was going here at all.” The Catholic says: “I always kind of suspected I was coming here, myself.” The Atheist says: “I’m not here, and it’s not hot.”
@@freefall945 singing songs and praises to Jesus and God for enternity in the company of John Hagee Billy Graham and David Wood. How awful would that be? hell is much better with more fun people like Frank Zappa and John Lennon
When atheists find out I'm a devout Christian I usually get one of two responses: 1) You didn't seem to me like the religious type because you seem so logical/sensible. 2) You just believe that because you were raised Christian. However, I was not raised Christian. I wasn't raised anything. And it was logic and sensibleness that led me to Christianity. They often assume that I don't understand evolution, but in truth I probably understand the evolution argument much better than they do. Online I've even heard accusations of me having a low IQ. But according to the High IQ Society's IQ test, mine is above 145, which is genius range according to them. In reality David summed it up rather well in this video. It's not that I haven't thought about it, it's that they haven't thought enough about it. And the more I learn about the world and how it works, it turns out that some of these "atheists" giving lectures and writing books, aren't even atheists at all, but some are straight up satanists putting up a front. People often forget about Satanists. But in the United States alone there are at least twice as many proclaimed Satanists as there are Jehovah's Witnesses. Which is about 1 in every 100 people.
'Anti-theists' is how I typically describe them. As many atheists like to say, 'atheism' is merely a lack of a belief in God. But like you said, many who call themselves 'atheist' are really satanist. Modern satanism is of course not bowing down to a horned red devil with a trident and a tail. Rather it is about rebellion against Christian tenets and institutions being rooted in 'hate' for God. Something that is becoming a trend in the 21st century apparently. Also is that true that 1 out of 100 people identify as Satanists? That's an alarming number, especially since that only includes those who are willing to admit it. I would also assume that that data comes from the U.S.? I can't imagine another country that has gone off the deep end in that regard like America has.
You've pointed out something I've suspected about the Enlightenment: that many of the men calling themselves atheists were probably occultists in disguise. What tuned me into this possibility was when I discovered that the book called His Dark Materials was written as an anti-Chronicles of Narnia series, by a man who claimed to be an atheist. Yet when look up an in depth synopsis of the series, without even having to read the book, you immediately see just how deeply occult it is. That made me wonder, if this guy is a witch disguising himself as an atheist, this same tactic has probably been used by other witches. Then one day it clicked. The language of being enlightened with the Enlightenment probably wasn't an accident. The Dark Ages myth probably wasn't accident. That occured near a peak in occult interest in elite circles probably wasn't an accident. That the vitriolic arguments used mirror the vitriol seen in Gnosticism and in ancient occultists like Celsus probably isn't an accident. I think you're spot on. When folks observe a difference between New Atheists and Old Atheists, I've come to believe that they're observing a second wave infiltration of occultism, very similar to what frequently occurs within the Church. The same pagans who disguise themselves as Christians would have no problem disguising themselves as atheists. Playing both sides of the fence is something we've always been warned about.
I've said it before: among all atheists living and dead, Richard Dawkins is the one who has consistently strengthened my faith in the God of the Bible by demonstrating that even with a sharp mind and a cool accent, there are no rational arguments for Atheism, for the non-existence of God, or against Christianity.
True story: I edit a philosophy magazine. When once-famous atheist Richard Swinburne converted from atheist to theism he sent us an article saying why. Unfortunately, he also sent it to Dawkins. Dawkins convinced him not to publish it 'because afterwards people wouldn't take him seriously'. That sounds like peer pressure to me. Or as you say, it's about as good as cult reasoning.
the fish see water, feel water, breath through water, the fish know water exist if you want a better analogy you should say that a sect of fish is praying Ariel the mermaid but she fails every single time to show up to prove her existence
@@serogaiusufir9615 nah her analogy is already accurate sometimes there are defective fish that aren't capable of realizing water is around them or that they feel it.
That sardonic humor among the Brits comes from repressed emotions while David has no emotions to repress, so perhaps such freedom in humor comes from freedom from emotional baggage.
@@MtlCstr I'm so glad you've met everyone from Britain so that you are in a position to be able to make such an undeniable critique of the emotional state of all 60 million of them. Thank you for your depth.
He said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’” (Luke 16:30-32)
@Acrocanthosaurus He's won every single debate. You can't name a single debate he hasn't won. Religitards cannot win from the start, since they believe in fictional fairytales.
The simple fact, from my experience of 60 years, is they simply don't want to believe in God. They can't stand the thought someone exists who is infinitely greater than they are and will hold them accountable for the life HE gave them. These people are so high on their own intellect that they haven't the humility necessary to even investigate the idea of God.
someone who is infinitely greater is bondage by a tiny dust of universe call Earth and a book made by tree. a True god will feel insulted and felt like God was defamed.
Nah, its nothing to do with "not wanting to believe in god", Im an atheist and I want to believe in god but I just dont believe the story provided by religious text. I was an atheist before Dawkins and Harris. Atheist views were common in the 1980's and 1990's. Particularly in the UK, Aust and Canada. Dawkins grew up in church schools, and he has said in interviews and his books that a belief in god can help people, gives them purpose and comfort but that doesnt mean its true. People who follow any religion can have benefits, but doesnt mean all the religions are true, People believed in Roman pagan gods, and Greek and many others but they were misinformed. Evidence is not good enough.
"and this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." - John 3:19
"How did atheism go from Winnie the Pooh to Cocaine Bear, almost overnight?" 😄David, you have me breaking out into laughter time and again. The opening line is just as good.
I went through an agnostic phase in my teen years. Once I found out that I was being intentionally mislead by the education system, that was actually the first part of my conversion. There were a number of claims that were proven false by their very own evolutionary scientists that were allowed to remain in the classroom many decades later taught as if it were fact.
Thats a feature of science not a bug. Changing your mind in the face of new evidence is a good thing. Doggedly sticking to explanations that the new data shows is incorrect would be a terrible thing. And about the classroom part that is just bad education. Its on teachers to make sure what they teach is up to date. But than again many of the supposed mistakes i hear about aren't actually taught. As a teacher myself i am curious to know what incorrect things you learned.
@@garethwest9069 If your talking evolution than i am sorry to say that has been proven over and over again and is accepted by thousands of experts in many different independent fields of science and is by far the best explanation for all the data. It does it so well that even creationists these days accept evolution. Sadly their religion forces them to throw half of it out. Evolution? Fine Evolution for longer than 3000 years? Impossible!! But lets say for a second evolution is false. Than we have no other viable alternative. Creationism can't explain anything without its attached religion. Something that has no place in school (in my opinion).
Oh, science changed... oh... so we can assume you failed science in school and have a need for absolutisms like religion offers? Good job. Btw, that is how science works. It makes every attempt to self-correct to the latest explanation of the data available. And just so you understand, this entire civilization and everything in it was built upon rational methodologies like science and logic, NOT faith.
@Michael Burkett It's exactly the opposite. Research the piltdown man. It was proven to be a hoax, but then allowed to remain in the science museum and in the classroom decades later and that's just a very small tip of a very large iceberg. Those who were PRETENDING to stand on science were already disqualified by their own scientists several decades earlier.
The fact that dawkins said the "second" coming wouldn't convince him is impressive... He just admitted that Jesus exists and therefore knows he's accountable. The big problem for him is that he'd also be helucinating for eternity in hell
Dizzle: "Remember when Richard Dawkins made powerful arguments against the existence of God?" Me (in my head): No but I'm open to being wrong- Dizzle: "Neither do I." BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I remember reading a theological argument that it is the stubborn and proud-minded that keep themselves in hell. I thought, "What kind of person when faced with the truth of God would turn the other way?" Well, here we are...
That reminds me so much of the dwarves from The Last Battle book in the Narnia series. It’s one of the most tragic scenes in the book. They refuse to believe anything they see or hear or taste or feel because they were lied to by very clever politicians essentially and they are so afraid of being deceived they won’t listen to anyone else anymore. “Dwarves are for the dwarves!”
Thats literally what Atheists say: There is no evidence for god, therefore we don't belief in god. It's as simple as that. Therefore every atheist ist also an agnostic. People who call themselves agnostics just have most of the time not as strong of an opinion regarding this topic and are more unsure in their opinion. I, for example, consider myself to be an Atheist, because in my observation every argument for God is based on at least one logical fallacy, religious thinking is inherently toxic and just false, since it is a fixed belief, rather than an evidence based belief and it hurts everyone in the long-term, since it perverts our sense of self at an extremely basic level. Thats why i don't just call myself an agnostic, but an atheist. Because it is in principle irrational and harmful to belief and promote things that don't have any grounding in the actual observable reality.
Not quite. And there you have the difference between a gullible theist - who assumes his beliefs are automatically true - and a skeptical theist, who assures he checks and double checks his facts. Clarke attained a first-class degree in mathematics and physics from King's College London. After this, he worked as assistant editor at Physics Abstracts. Clarke served as president of the British Interplanetary Society from 1946 to 1947 and again from 1951 to 1953. Although he was not the originator of the concept of geostationary satellites, one of his most important contributions in this field was his idea that they would be ideal telecommunications relays. He advanced this idea in a paper privately circulated among the core technical members of the British Interplanetary Society in 1945. The concept was published in Wireless World in October of that year. Clarke also wrote a number of nonfiction books describing the technical details and societal implications of rocketry and space flight. The most notable of these may be Interplanetary Flight: An Introduction to Astronautics (1950), The Exploration of Space (1951), and The Promise of Space (1968). In short, he was *very much* a well educated scientist. One who loved to write science fiction on the side, granted.
It is not. You falsely assume that SF authors always write pure fantasy. In fact, many a good SF book analyses the (real) human behaviour and predicts the future. We are now certainly living in the world predicted by "451 Fahrenheit".
@@tezz2698 It's not even that. Some people erroneously assume that *ANY* involvement of an expert is fallacious - which is simply untrue. To the contrary, it is a practical and sound way of obtaining knowledge that is generally likely to be correct when the authority is real, pertinent, and universally accepted. Which in this case - he is. But also, if we strip Clarke from the argument, the argument itself is compelling and is defensible enough to survive scrutiny - even without Clarke's name attached to it. If a fallacy is called out when none is there, it's a "fallacy fallacy". In short, there are so many things wrong with the initial comment, it's hardly any fun countering it. 😉
I’ve often asked self professing atheists what evidence would they accept. All have answered in this way. This is because “the fool says in his heart, there is no God.”
I find Christians typically overstate what evidence they have and what it actually entails. We have a human history of making up many types of gods, so the type of evidence I would need would be something that can distinguish true from false claims made of this type. I.e. Let's say a believer says a demon acted in a given incident, and a demon did not in fact act. Can you determine that their assertion was false? If this is all made up, would that not be evidence of it being made up? Yet you try and orchestrate a grand story and pretend its more than what you actually have when every single one of these claims come down to this type of scenario. I "believe" it happened, and make no effort to verify it, because "it makes sense".
@@ZeekRulezz990 Research intelligent design. You need more faith to assume everything happened by random chance. Thats ur religion that isnt even logical compared to theism. you need to tell us why your worldview of DNA making itself from nothing as well as the universe makes more sense. ujntil u can provide an alternative then sorry U cannot claim to be a thinker. if u admit evolution doesnt have anything to do with abiogenesis u are admitting u have no working model and live purely on faith but without any good reason purely emotional
@@brotherben4357 For me it is the complexity of the information biological systems are built on, which presenets the classic chicken or egg senario i.e. which came first the information that builds the biological machines or the machines that act on that information. The answer of course for both questions is God.
You have zero evidence. Ever. So very obviously, but since you think there is evidence, show us. Show the world. And do so without the need to kill someone to show them that ONLY after death can they truly know whether there is a god or not, because as of this moment, you people only have faith, the opposite of what evidence is.
@@WWYG316 a god could not have created itself. So another god before your god must have created it, right? No? Huh... it's almost as if you don't have an argument to begin with and haven't bothered to look up that there are actually mathematics that demonstrate something can come from nothing. It's called the Wheeler-DeWitt equation. Even if there is uncertainty, it is not a cause to fill any of the gaps of ignorance with magic, or a god.
I agree on some of the actual points you made against Sam and Dawkins. And I even agree anyone who follows a person blindly does deserve some amount of criticism. But those points were muddled in between lengthy rants consisting mostly of straw manning, personal attacks, generalizations, and over dramatizations. Do people not see the irony in someone who constantly uses logical fallacies, argues in bad faith, and displays an ego second to none making a video about others doing the very same thing? 🤔
Thanks, David. Your "Scooby Doo" video was eye opening for me. It turns out cultish behavior isn't just limited to cults. You see it all over the place.
YOU CHRISTIANS HAD ABOUT 2000 YEARS TO PROVE /SHOW GREAT EVIDENCE OF YOUR GOD! ALL I HEAR IS PHILOSOPHY/WORD SALAD AT IT'S BEST . A MURDEROUS,GENOCIDAL, PRO-SLAVERY, RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC HATEFUL CULT AT IT'S WORST!!!! THE GOD OF THE BIBLE (WHITE JESUS) DON'T EXIST! IF HE DID HE COULD GO TO HELL!!!!!
What ? I did not know idiots are also in Sweden. Most atheist don't care what comes out of Dawkins mouth , its the rationality, not the the one speaking dummy 🤣
I have a bachelor degree in theology (dropped out with my master's degree almost finished), my major was philosophy of religion (branch of systematic theology), so I studied a thing or two about atheism too. One of my student colleague wrote an essay for the bachelor degree about Dawkins' book, so we did have extensive discussions about it. We really had trouble finding anything new in Dawkins thinking when it was looked from the comparative view of history of atheism. It was interesting of course, but also somewhat disappointing that Dawkins' arguments were so easily dismissed with existing apologetic writings and of course some theologians were looking into it at the time and did a good job at commenting on Dawkins' views. Saying that Dawkins' had some kind of cult of personality seems to be depicting of his followers. Many times I ran into people using the same exact arguments that Dawkins did to the point that I could say "oh you've read Dawkins", because I had a quick read of his works and could easily identify some of the arguments. Part of the arguments that I've heard were these "oh you studied theology, you must be stupid"-kind of nonsense and downright dismissing any reasonable discussion with "religious people are stupid"-attitude. Well, I looked into it and then found out that some of his followers on some forum were writing these "how to confront a religious person"-rules and apparently some people actually followed these rules. The rules were dismissive and basically outlined an abusive stragegy to end a discussion by ridiculing your "opponent" in a way where "you come out as the winner". It was not pretty. Sometime there started to emerge these memes that were made to ridicule the origins of christian traditions and celebrations, but many of those were fabricated and had no basis in real history. No-one seemed to care about fact checking or if they actually had any truth in it. Turned out at least some of these memes originated from the discussion groups of Dawkins' followers. Now, I wouldn't be annoyed about someone writing about atheistic world view, but people using abusive strategies in conversations and spreading disinformation while claiming that they are thinking for themselves and advocating science is what really got on my nerve. I think it was at the point when people started using atheism against islam and the racist people also started to use the same arguments, when people got into thinking that maybe what they are doing isn't exactly righterous. At least I feel the "new atheistic" movement has gone silent as the connection with racism got a bit too strong to handle. Well, it has been interesting. I just hope people actually learn critical thinking and read some philosophy and theology if they get into these subjects. It would be fair to admit that the scientific theory doesn't give us the tools to examine God as a theory; christian God is panentheistic, omniscient and omnipotent, so we can't step outside of the system (because God is even greater than all existence) to make observations and we cannot rule out the possibility that God manipulates our measurements and ultimately we can't rule out that God is in us and affects how we experience everything. So scientifically speaking, we cannot examine this topic, we cannot know, so we remain agnostic ("no knowledge"). If someone wants to take an atheistic or theistic stand: that is a matter of faith.
This idea was originally conceived of and presented by human beings and if there's no further verification of this other than it being an abstract hypothetical concept then how do you consider it to be a possibility and not just an unfalsifiable idea we made up?
@@enzoarayamorales7220 can we assume that all "made up unfalsiable ideas" are impossible? It's a matter of logic really: can we assume that reasoning alone is a valid source of information? Or should we trust more on observation and maybe just say that we cannot have certainty on matters like this.
I never studied philosophy in depth, and only started seriously studying the Bible a decade ago. Even before then, _Dawkins arguments made me ill._ How could a supposed scholar, a scientist supposedly looking for truth, use the same kind of lazy, fallacious logic I heard re: religion back in middleschool? If anything, his willful ignorance/rejection of anthropology, history, theology, psychology, etc. was what always boiled my blood the most. Hell, using his own terminology, _religion shows hallmarks of being an evolutionarily advantageous meme._ Which begs the question, if religion was so advantageous to our ancestors' survival that it has mostly become hardwired into our DNA, how can one seriously expect only good things to happen if large numbers of people rejecting wholesale a complex, heterogenous, unifying, _civilization-building_ social phenomenon? Dawkins needs Jesus. And serious therapy.
Your final conclusion is false: agnosticism also requires faith. For one, evidence requires faith in order to be accepted, but more to the point. Your claim is still a claim whether it's agnostic or not, and so requires faith just like any other claim does. Saying something can't be known is not a neutral position.
Personally, I don't think New Atheism died out as racists started to use it. I think it evolved into things like modern social justice movements and critical theory. They all have in common the tactics you mentioned, a hatred for Christianity, a disregard for the role of evidence and truth in their thinking, and so on. I think that this religion-free utopia they envisioned has definitely not panned out the way they hoped. They disregarded the fact that human beings are basically inherently religious. Unless you have the exact mindset of guys like Dawkins, if you abandon Chrisiriaity, you'll just turn that same energy and dedication towards something else that gives your life meaning and purpose - like neo-paganism or political activism.
Also, he said he can’t imagine what any evidence would look like for the existence of God, which means even if he looked at evidence that confirm God, he wouldn’t even know he was looking at it
This is why I remained an agnostic for so long and was even less convinced about atheism than Christianity. There were plenty of arguments and evidence for the existence of God that could be found throughout history, but atheism was always just, "well, I don't see the type of proof that I wanna see so therefore, God doesn't exist". I felt that it was more likely that some sort of divine being existed, even if I was unsure about who that was at the time. Atheism is not a lack of beliefs but a set of its own beliefs and assumptions that rely on rejecting any and all arguments for the existence of God. Atheists have tremendous faith in their belief that there is no God, so even if God appeared to them in some way, they would not accept Him. To say that they would reject any proof because they could be hallucinating or delusional tells me that they don't trust their own cognition enough to believe what they perceive. If that's the case, why do they trust it enough to somehow come to the conclusion that there is no God? How are they sure that they can trust their reasoning in saying that God doesn't exist, but would not even be able to trust their own senses if the were to perceive Him directly? Their arguments are flawed and full of many contradictions.
In his posthumously-published Observations Upon the Prophecies of Daniel and the Apocalypse of St. John, Isaac Newton expressed his belief that Bible prophecy would not be understood "until the time of the end", and that even then "none of the wicked shall understand". Listening Dawkins I understand what Newton meant.
@@B3tabyt3 Yes of course. Normally when I write this (I try to all the time!) I write "Europe down to Southern Africa" because I know South Africa and Sweden got the same day time.
@@raphaelfeneje486 When I came to the realisation, I no longer believed the fantasy stories, there was no internet and I had never heard of Richard Dawkins. So, what other deliberately misleading statements would you like to make?
@@jusfugly There was no internet?? LOL... You should be in your 100's then. Because you're literally lying to yourself. Fantasy stories aren't backed up by evidence. Historical evidence. It's like saying there's a unicorn. Christianity is backed up by evidence. You not believing doesn't affect it. It's your problem if you say you have no purpose in life and don't know what's good or bad 🙂
@@raphaelfeneje486 You don't research anything, do you? It would have been easy for you to read a few minutes of history, to explain the history of the internet, nut you chose to call me a liar, instead. Very christian of you. None of your bible stories are backed by historical evidence. Yes, saying that there is a unicorn is exactly like saying that your pretend god exists. There is no evidence for either
That was an excellent question from Peter.. I'm enjoying the twisting... They lack what I lacked ages ago....Faith. For decades I was agnostic...However the more I studied mathematics, physics, biology....the more I was questioning my agnostic stand....I started studying the history of the disciplines....the closer I got to finally rereading my bible studies from childhood .Well that opened my mind and eventually my heart.
@@phylocybe_ if God is real iam sure he would have the power to convince every atheist. But he doesn't. Not even to a degree that it looks like alien power rather than God power.
One thing I tell atheists who try to challenge my faith: I'd rather get to the end of life having lived as a faithful Christian and finding out there is no god than denying God and finding out he is real
Hello David, greetings from The Netherlands. 4 years ago I started to read and educate myself about God, about the person of Jesus, about science and about Islam. I apreciate all your videos. I have some books that you recomanded and the information from your videos was more than enough on certain topics. May God bless you and your family and keep you close to Him on your journey in this life. I can't help myself but smile after watching this video. This is how I described the New Atheits ever since I heard about them. Nothing more than a bunch of emotional bullies who think they discovered the truth and whoever dissagre with them should be removed, no wonder why the LGBTQ movement started from them. Dear brothers and sisters in Chris, I would like to share with you a verse from a song very dear to me: Ye fearful saints, fresh courage take; The clouds ye so much dread/ Are big with mercy and shall break/ In blessings on your head (God moves in a mysterious way).
Goed bezig. Ik heb mijzelf een jaar geleden ook bekeerd naar Christus, hij heeft mij laten bekeren door zijn wonderen, genadigheid, vrijgevigheid, en nog vele andere krachten van onze Heer, God zegene u en uw naaste.
I’m also Daniel and I lived in the Netherlands for a year! I wanna practice Dutch again, can we get in touch? I think we’d have a lot to talk about Christianism
Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’ And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’ ”
I'm glad you are turning your guns towards the "New" Atheism. They got me in my teens. As a result I became a viscous and miserable person for a decade of my life. I hope others can come to see the way out too. You can trace a causal line from the New Atheism, to Atheism Plus, to the modern Woke movements. In short its fruits have been a blight on western civilization.
@@briansardinas1359 Care to elaborate? I just can't fathom being an atheist other than some kind of temper tantrum, shaking one's fist at the Creator because of a lack of appreciation for existence.
Rest assured that, when his knee is bowing and his tongue is confessing, he WILL be convinced. Unfortunately for him, at that time it will be too late. I pray that he would see the light before it's too late. Could you imagine if Richard Dawkins became an actual born again Christian? Imagine all of the lost and confused ants crawling around aimlessly without their "queen". "Ants" ready to receive the gospel, perhaps?
My family is from the former Soviet Bloc and so I grew up in an atheist household. It was so strict that once in HS i had to write a paper on Job for my World Lit class and had to check a Bible out from the library.. My father saw it and he went ballistic. He was screaming: "GET THAT BOOKOUT OF MY HOUSE!" Anyway, I thought I was helping people by being an atheist and freeing them from an unnecessary framework. I even did separation of church and state activism back in the 80's. Then the "New Atheists" came along and exposed me to groups of atheists I was totally unfamiliar with. These people didn't want to help anyone. These weren't trying to be a dutiful daughter (like I had been) and I totally reexamined why I was an atheist in the first place and eventually was saved. Sometimes I think about what happened and I can't believe it but it's real.
I was pulled into New Atheism over a decade ago. Simply observing the effects on my life and secularism on my nation turned me to Christ a few years ago.
Frankly, from a purely pragmatic point of view, Christianity makes far better societies to live in the secularism. While I have struggled with faith, I have never doubted that its a massive boon for humanity and its waning is destroying the Western world.
the proof should be as important as the claim. if you raise the dead cool for you, you are a necromancer at best. if you are god, you should show us how he create stars, planet, life
@@serogaiusufir9615 again. Jesus has been historically proven to exist. all accounts point to that. then the witnesses claiming to have seen him then the fact they died over this claim.
By dorkins logic, literally anything could be literally anything else so even atheism is ultimately blind faith. This is the absurdity they devolve to.
I remember laughing at them when they started calling themselves "Brights". It is the height of irrationality to follow a rule of thinking which would absolutely prevent me from acknowledging certain kinds of truth if those kinds of truth were really there. - A paraphrase of William James as quoted by Gordon Clark
I really appreciate this David. I have two sons who are not Christians. Every bit of knowledge gained is a blessing. Thankyou so much. I would love to hear more of your insight.
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I just spit out my sip of water laughing. I said "no" with my head, and the "neither do I" response got me. 💀😂
"People don't have Ideas, Ideas Have People" Carl Jung A number of years ago while posting on an Internet Forum and at the same time Google chatting with my 20 year old Daughter, I asked her "What does it take to Change someone's Worldview?" She replied in an instant, one word "Crisis"
Or a compelling argument, or compelling evidence. A crisis might cause you to change your world view, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will lead you to the truth.
I think it's so crazy that Richard Dawkins thinks if the stars wrote out "I am God, believe in me" in multiple languages, the most plausible explanation is "It was probably aliens MOVING THE STARS." lol
It might make sense for certain _extremely specific_ sci-fi narratives (e.g. _The Three-Body Problem),_ but as I just said, _that is science fiction._ More than anything, falling back on such a fallacious argument demands he provide evidence the scenario he offered as explained is even possible, which would entail proving extraterrestrial intelligences exist and that they are directly fucking with us/him personally out of malice or mischief. I also suspect such a hypothetical miracle wouldn't be limited just to visual signs either. If there was an earthquake, some great reverberating noise, or some traumatizing phenomenon that I lack the vocabulary to describe, one which _large numbers of people experienced simultaneously with him,_ would Dawkins still have the figurative balls to deny God _shaking His head in exasperation?_
I think that the atheist "community" was stunned by the defection of one of their most cherished intellectuals- Antony Flew. Moving from atheism to a vague sort of theism, Flew quickly became an unperson in the atheist "community". He was no longer cited as a reference in their books, and he was no longer referred to when atheists continued to use his arguments.
I liked Eric Metaxis' recognition that replacing God with "aliens" just kicks the can further down the road. Who made the aliens then? Same problem. So silly. P.S. Your impression of Dawkins made me giggle.
Reminds me of trying to talk to a lot of the flat earthers. I respect their willingness to question the main stream narrative. They lose me in their refusal to question the "answers" that they've found.
There is a terrifying situation described in 2 Thessalonians 2:11, 12 that arises when people willingly reject the Truth: "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." Willfully rebelling against something you know to be true is not only intellectual suicide, but incurs the ultimate penalty, damnation. Romans 1:20 reminds us that EVERYONE knows there is a God. Those of us who have fought God but now have become his own dear children because he sought us out should be very thankful. You can trust Jesus to save you! Trust him today!
Thanks DWood for this. Like others, I’m mighty glad to see you back here. Atheists deeply sadden me because they are intensely unaware what they are up against. If only they realised that all humanity became blind to evidence since Eden. The father of Lies told our first parents that if they disobeyed God their eyes would be open and they would see and be like gods. So guess what happened when Adam and Eve fell for that trick: of course they became blind. To say that they saw - as God wanted them to see - would be saying the Father of Lies had told them the truth. We also forget that he succeeded to con a third of God’s holy angels as well. We happen to have received sight from the giver of eyesight which is why we see. What also helps is a little humility, which they badly are in need of.
I feel sorry for Dawkins, he has started a process he cant stop, soon he will question if he himself exists. Everything is becoming so clear. The way the image is revealed it seems in order to believe in ourselves and be sure that we exist we must believe in God first, and see the universe through his eyes. Thank you for this video!
It is not that Dawkins questions his own existence, he knows that he exists and has no doubt about that. It's that Dawkins is full of hatred towards God and actively fights against him, with whatever he's got. He cannot call himself an atheist bc it requires (by definition) to actually believe that there is no god. But as Dawkins mentioned, even if God would appear in front of him physically, he would not believe it. Which is a lie btw. Of course he knows that God exists, already. His thinking shows that he decided to not believe into God even if it is align with science, for instance measuring Gods existence/aura (if we say God manifested himself in front of Dawkins for a minute to show him that he is real). So in the sum, he is a Satanist, not an atheist.
@user-iq8kz7yo3h Dawkins hates something that doesn't exist? News to me. That's fascinating. Tell me more about how dawkins hates some magical man made fairytale being. I love how Dawkins is number one enemy of religitards, because he's so effective at easily destroying your fairytales at a foundational level
@@AverageAlienEffective at what ? He's so far off the deep end, he can't even accept that the values he holds so dear stem from Christianity, nor does he realize that he created a hive minded cult of spiteful nutcases. As you yourself are proving with your Redditor-tier "debate skills" lmfao
Just remember, they believe the science that endless "multiverses" exist with endless versions of you, but God is just ridiculous....k... I wish they would just admit they hate God. He exists and they hate Him.
![Jordan Peterson on the Christian Origins of Science [Logos & Literacy]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/JMTWnd5BhxI/mqdefault.jpg)
Isaac Newton, considered by many to be the greatest scientist of all time, once declared: "Atheism is so senseless and odious to mankind that it never had many professors." Things have obviously changed since the time of Newton, because there are now many atheists. But do you agree with him that atheism is "senseless and odious"? Why or why not?
Most of them say that even if they accepted the existence of God, they still wouldn't want a relationship with Him.
Yes...totally senseless cuz everything is so perfectly intertwined with each other , it's surreal !!
It's only the self importance that makes them atheists and disown God . With God, obedience is a must !
@@scottedwards1209 Yeah, I've had atheists tell me, "Even if God exists, I'd rather burn in hell than believe in him." Seems like an emotional issue masquerading as an intellectual issue.
how are you going to make a video about the "cult like behavior of atheists", who think they are all "smarter than everyone else", AND then come down in the comments and take about how Isaac Newton, thinks atheists are dumb? Kind of hypocritical of you.
@@apologeticsroadshow Im an athiest and If this is true, this is the dumbest thinking I've ever heard . I hope u can appreciate that most athiest don;t think like this.
If there really is a hell out there then ofcourse I want to be convinced and avoid it.
I was a "New Atheist" and truth be told it was an act of rebellion no matter how much we insisted it wasn't. It wasn't intellectual, it wasn't principled, it was just a club to join that let you insult people in the other club with impunity.
The other club? 3000 gods +1 it is 3000 other clubs
@@gide5489no, one club that has God/gods exist
@@bikesrcool_1958 then a club with a lot of teams
How can I take you seriously, when you SERIOUSLY believe that your deity killed first borns?
Please please, give the me the apologetic spin how it was actually good for your deity to kill children... go ahead.
@@gide5489my man… that is the most cult crap I’ve ever heard. The Concept of an Almighty is entirely separate from a Deity. That’s like confusing a Cookie for an Internet Cookie because they have the same spelling. Monotheists may disagree on how God behaves and what he wants but they generally agree that the others just view the same Almighty incorrectly and not that they believe in a separate person.
This really goes back to the gospel. The Pharisees were witnesses to countless miracles performed by Christ but still refused to believe in Him due to the hardness of their hearts.
How is a suspension of the laws of nature proof of divinity?
@@retrorampage484You’re one of them
@@retrorampage484 - Yes, you're proving the point made in the video. Nice job!
His own disciples didn't believe Him when He appeared to them from the grave. Thomas needed to put his fingers through the holes of His hands to believe he was speaking with the risen Christ.
His own disciples didn't believe Him when He appeared to them from the grave. Thomas needed to put his fingers through the holes of His hands to believe he was speaking with the risen Christ. Don't expect an atheist to believe when given evidence either.
I was an atheist, I realized that I was making choices to ignore certain information, and surrounded myself with the information that supported my belief. At that I time, I didn't know God. That He is good, that He wants to guide, and talk to me and be with me through my life. I prayed one night after having my life fall completely apart, I asked God if You are real, can You help me? Can You show me Your real? He answered both in an amazing way which left no doubt. Now I spend time in His presence each day and am strengthened by His word. Now I am really living. You can know God. He is waiting for your invitation. God doesn't go against free will. So if you push God away, he stays away. When you draw near to Him, He draws near to you. If you are an Atheist reading this, ask God. Prayer is talking, ask God to show You that He is real. He is waiting on you, not the other way around. My life is so good now, my only regret is waiting so long because of a lie. Ask and you will receive. Richard Dawkins will never know God until He is willing to ask.
Which god is the one you invoked ?. And what happened to the other people around the people swearing that other gods are the real ones ?
What information were you ignoring and what evidence is there for God? Cool
@@nous2000 Have you ever read the Bible?
@@nous2000 If you stretch out your hand to heal, and the person is healed, it was God who healed--through you. Same with the Scriptures. Men wrote under the inspiration of God.
@@nous2000 you have allowed your heart to deceive your mind. "The heart is deceitfully wicked above all things, who can know it". The Bible can be proven. You have no proof to back what you say. Jesus Christ is the only way.
If Dawkins was a forensics criminologist looking at a bloody murder scene he would be like "well I can see that there is evidence of a dead body in front of me with multiple knife wounds...but it could just be a hallucination and besides, I'm not even sure I would even believe the evidence anyways"
... 😂
Name a single piece of evidence that shows even the possibility of such a thing as a god
Supernatural claims require supernatural evidence. Murders are not supernatural. The reasonable doubt for supernatural claims is much higher than for rather trivial claims like the occurrence of murders, since murders actually happen. I haven't even seen a talking bush yet, other than George W. and George H. W.
Your god, according to scripture, intentionally kept his children ignorant (NEGLIGENCE), left them alone, unsupervised where his most formidable enemy could get at them (GROSS NEGLIGENCE), got very angry (LACK OF EMOTIONAL MATURITY), blaming his children for the consequences (DEFLECTION OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY) and cursed not only his children (ABUSE), but their offspring ad infinitum (GUILT BY ASSOCIATION).
IT GETS WORSE…
Generations later, god, according to scripture, forced his followers to torture and murder and innocent man (CULT OF HUMAN SACRIFICE) and then celebrate/memorialize this event macabre by consuming the victims’ flesh and blood symbolically (CANNIBALISTIC IDEATION & RITUALIZATION) in order to be free from the UNEARNED punishment their creator had inflicted upon them in a fit of misdirected rage.
And finally, this “vicarious redemption” (to put lipstick on a pig) is so all encompassing as to be morally ABSURD because it says Jeffrey Dahmer is in Heaven after accepting Jesus as his Lord and Savior while his victims burn in Hell.
The fact that all of this flies safely under your radar while you judge others harshly is sick and perverted.
@@AverageAlienOur Lady of Fatima and Guadalupe.
I have never seen this dawkins clip before... it's like a C.S. Lewis story come to life.
In The Last Battle, after the world of Narnia ends, the Dwarves who refused to take sides with either Good or Evil, refusing to believe in Aslan or Tash, sat in the paradise Aslan brought them to, but they squeezed their eyes shut, and convinced themselves that every sensory input was a hallucination, and that they were still in the dingy old shack they had been thrown into.
I thought it was a bit of a cartoonish exaggeration of atheists, but... here we are.
I was thinking of the exact same thing. They did not see because they did not wish to see, even when Lucy grabbed one of them by the beard.
Man, that was my favorite second to only the lion the witch and the wardrobe. I liked it a lot because it showed and reflected the world now. I could relate to it more because of the deception that is ongoing and the blindness so many people have. I recently lost my copy while reading it again ! 🥲😔😔😔😔
So if you see an angel tonight telling you that Joesph Smith was correct or Mohammed, you'd switch sides?
Come on, be honest, there's no born-again out there that, if they saw the stars spell out, "Krishna is Lord!" would become Hindu.
You'd claim it was a trick or something, am I right? Be honest.
Since I was a hard-core missionary going pray-in-the-streets Evangelical ON FIRE Christian who loved Jesus with all my mind, heart, and soul I KNOW the answer here, even if you ignore me or deflect, you would NOT become a Hare Krishna.
So, what Dawkins is saying is that an angel shouting or the stars spelling out words, etc., wouldn't convince him that the Abramic God was real, and he's got good reasons for this conviction.
There are ways a God or gods could prove themselves (it would involve math, predicting the future, and it would be universal) that Dawkins or any athiest would be convinced that that god or God or gods existed. A god or God or gods could convince humans they (or him/her/it) existed. It would be easy to do, but it wouldn't take place as a light show magic trick of the kind you see in a Vegas show.
Oxford men... not a coincidence!
@@michaelsbeverlyThe flaw in this analogy is that believing a message in the stars saying Krishna is lord is false is completely consistent with the Christian worldview. Christians believe that the devil and demons are on a mission to deceive humans and turn them away from Christ. What better way to do this than to direct them to a false god? Please correct me if I'm wrong - I suspect from how you describe yourself that you know a lot more about these things than I do - but isn't this widespread deception and challenge to faith a component of the end times?
Also, if you've theorized a formula or method that could definitively prove the existence of God you should contact Dawkins with that information, since he says here that he cannot imagine any type of evidence that could potentially convince him. I'm not at all being sarcastic here. He seems receptive to feedback from the public, and it would help him present a better argument if he could say, "THIS is something that would actually convince me", versus what we see here, where he presents as completely unpersuadable.
"Remember when Richard Dawkins gave powerful arguments against the existence of God? Neither do I" top 5 best TH-cam opening lines of all time.
You're wrong and scientifically completely out of touch with reality !
@@p.a.andrews7772 what does it mean for someone to be "scientifically out of touch with reality"?
@@p.a.andrews7772 Would you please share a couple of examples of Richard Dawkins giving arguments against the existence of God? Thanks in advance!
@@andres.e. There is no proof for god's existence therefore there is no point to try to disprove it.
@@konradborowiecki That is a non-position that can't be taken seriously.
"For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who do not, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase
Uhhhhhh, not biblical though.
I've seen atheists convert when presented with proof. They were hardcore atheists.
I think this gives bad precedent into saying that atheists can't be saved.
If you look at the way atheists act, particularly online, they all are basically an extension of Dawkins’ personality.
Pretty much yes
Most of them yes. There's also no evidence that they would ever consider.
And they can’t think for themselves. They say the same things over and over again.
@@andtou1342do the religious people do the same? And even longer than anybody else?
"It's easier to fool people than to convince them they've been fooled".
Mark Twain
The argument best applied to the religious
@@ProsecutorZekrom True, for some religions.
Or, my fool once, fool me again and again and...
@@michaelkearney3646 Honest skeptics who examine the evidence for Jesus' life, death and resurrection almost always become Christians. Its the people who aren't open to the truth who take little bits and pieces of fallacious arguments and weave them into a sort of shield to protect their egos and lifestyles who are the most annoying of all to deal with.
"Many are called, but few are chosen".
If you're convincing people they've been fooled when they haven't, (i.e. with a conspiracy theory) you're just fooling them.
He's perfectly describing me. I was so sure that God didn't exist, yet I NEVER looked into any of the reasons why the vast majority of humanity believed in God. I took my childish objections like, "well if God created the universe, who created God?" as complete takedowns of theism that somehow nobody has ever considered for millenia, either because they weren't as intelligent as me or they were just willfully blind. At the age of 28, for the first time in my life I admitted to myself that I never had actually looked into any of this, like ever lol. I would just stumble upon a talking point here and there and assume that there was no answers. Boy these religious people sure are stupid, I would think. Then I decided to actually look into this with a genuine open mind, and I first clicked on a William Lane Craig debate. Never heard of him in my entire life, and didn't even know apologetics was a thing. I was about as naive as humanly possible on religion. And I was absolutely blown away by how weak the arguments against theism were. I was thinking, "wtf? You guys are supposed to be the go-to people to debunk religion and this is all you have? Seriously??!!" I was kind of embarrassed because I was saying some of the same things the atheists were, and I saw how illogical and nonsensical those arguments were when they were answered by somebody who actually knows what they are talking about. Craig breezed through the debate and my jaw was on the floor.
Two decades of my entire life, and I suddenly realized that I was so wrong about the most important, fundamental issue of existence. I have never been more humbled. It was the happiest day of my life. I literally, no joke, started jumping and dancing around because it was the first time in my life where I genuinely believed in God. I was absolutely overcome with joy that I found a gigantic part of reality that I didn't realize existed until that moment. It was truly a "scales from the eyes" moment if there ever was one. For a week straight I would break down into tears multiple times per day by just thinking about the majesty of creation, a sunset, or the trees blowing. I saw true beauty for the first time in my life. I saw that reality was drowning in goodness, truth, and beauty, and it was everywhere I looked. I was an absolute mess for that week. My world was flipped upside down. When I get down I think of the song "how can I keep from singing?", and I think back to that moment when i was jumping up and down in joy when I realized God is real, and I remember that God is still moving and there is somebody somewhere in the world who is having that same moment today and I feel that goodness all over again!
Atheists think that "believing that God exists" is the finish line. God isn't looking for us to just believe that he exists in reality, he wants a relationship, so a booming voice from heaven may only achieve in convincing people that he exists, but wouldn't have any effect on building a relationship, and many still wouldn't believe. I think it would do quite the opposite. Many people would grow to hate him even more because now there is unequivocal proof that he exists and look at the way the world is. We would see things like Christians being taken hostage by groups all around the world as ransom in exchange for God righting some wrongs that they see in the world. It's not hard to envision, if you try, why it might be wise for God to give us just enough to have faith but not too much as to be complete proof. The pain of this world will draw out us a much deeper sense of love and beauty when we get to the other side. Just as it takes 9 months in the womb before the body is ready to enter this world, it may take a certain amount of time before the spirit is ready to enter heaven. It all makes perfect sense if you just take a minute to understand, and as an atheist I didn't take a single minute to understand. My mind was completely made up. It took the pains of this world to break my heart and to open it up to another world. It begins and ends in the heart.
Thank you for your testimony. God bless you and I hope you continue to speak for the glory of God's kingdom.
Idk, can't really relate to when you're an atheist. But I think you were anti-theist before. I am not sure that god not exist and so far apologetic argument just not convinced me, actually it kinda convinced me more like... maybe there's is a god, but we in like a simulation. but I have not solid proof for both... Idk pray for me I guess... lol
@@darkira2129 ...what
@@darkira2129 just look into the validity of prophecies. And the ones that have come true in the last 80 years that was written down thousands of years ago. Only God would know the beginning to end. When I was a kid I had a out of body experience and a vision of Heaven on earth just like I’m chapter 21 in revelation and I haven’t even read it at the time. I was there and God revealed himself to me. One of the prophecies is that in the last days many many people would start to have visions. Just go on TH-cam and look up Jesus visions or rapture visions by Christian’s. It personally happened to me so I know for a fact God is real. But with the amount of testimonies there are of out of body experiences I’d say that’s more than sufficient evidence to see that there might be something to the Bible.
In so glad u took the time to examine the evidence. Welcome friend.
Sounds like we're dealing with a heart problem, not a head problem.
We can't change hearts: but Christ could save even me.
Thanks for what you do, David!
Exactly right - it's what you do with the evidence, how you perceive it, that determines what you ultimately choose to believe concerning the God.
It’s still a choice of ours.
Amen brother. I'm a living miracle so I laugh when people say there is no evidence for God. They obviously didn't know me before and after. I'm walking evidence of the power of God and proof that he can work miracles from his throne
@@roberjohnsmith
But were you sure God is real before the change in your life happened? You see, how could you expect atheists to begin to believe in God if you did not believe in God until God revealed Himself to you?
@@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid Of course it is. But please don't deceive yourself into thinking that the God question is answered based upon what you're able to rationalize in your intellect, or even what erroneous, fallible men conclude about God (for or against). If your preference is to live this life in sin, to "enjoy" what amounts to a grain of sand compared to eternity, as opposed to simply finding out sincerely about God with a willingness to follow Jesus Christ when he reveals himself to you, don't be surprised when this decision lands you in an eternal hell, which we all deserve.
The ending where David Wood mocking atheists saying " Show me the evidence, show me the evidence, thats no evidence!" was a perfect imitation of Matt Dillahunty xD
hahaha David Wood mocking himself
I was one of those 'new Atheists'. I'm so glad and grateful I finally got to really explore the evidence!
What’s your story? Who and what broke you out of that mindset?
Yes please share
Same happened to me.
YOU CHRISTIANS HAD ABOUT 2000 YEARS TO PROVE /SHOW GREAT EVIDENCE OF YOUR GOD! ALL I HEAR IS PHILOSOPHY/WORD SALAD AT IT'S BEST . A MURDEROUS,GENOCIDAL, PRO-SLAVERY, RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC HATEFUL CULT AT IT'S WORST!!!! THE GOD OF THE BIBLE (WHITE JESUS) DON'T EXIST! IF HE DID HE COULD GO TO HELL!!!!!
I have zero trust in these comments 🤣😂🤣
I remember when I was a teenage atheist, watching Dawkins on youtube calling theists dumb while I was thinking "oH yES tHiS mAN smART RelIGION dUMb" and feeling superior to all those "dumb" believers. Oh man what a fool I was 😂😂
I did that too when I was younger. Now I just feel shame for it.
I did the same thing as both of you. I have shame everyday.
Me too, but I don't really have shame about it cause Jesus forgave me. I just use it to sympathize with them, and then in debates with them it always throws them off... A lot of times they say I wasn't a real atheist or that I haven't heard x argument against theism, which I always have. They sometimes just stop replying because they are unsure of how to respond.
A lot of us have been there 😅.
And today you're still a fool.
As a Catholic I have always viewed science as learning how God makes everything work. There is nothing contradicting God in science.
Thank you for saying that
Agreed. I have nothing but contempt for Creationism and Intelligent Design.
Science has disproven the creation myth of genesis, disproven Noah’s flood, debunk the claim of the Tower of Babel and nowhere has any branch of science demonstrated any gods, let alone your favorite one.
The Catholic Church is a criminal organization and is ask that you please remove yourself from such a corrupt business.
@@Thagomizeryou two don't agree, catholics accepted evolution and creationists don't.
Anselm
"Why would God, who created everything so carefully, care about us or give us rules?"
"Aliens would move the stars to mess with us"
I've often thought it crazy how people will completely dismiss the existence of a God because they believe it fanciful, YET choose to believe in things that are (I'd argue) even more crazy.
@@camillewilliams3185In an infinite Universe neither Aliens or God is a fanciful idea.
@@Blackmystix Except only 1 of those 2 can actually communicate with us, and has through myriad ways.
@@camillewilliams3185 he doesn't believe that aliens have rearranged the stars, but he is saying that it is not an impossibility.
"But he said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.'" (Luke 16:31 NASB20)
As a former atheist who used to regard Hitch as my personal hero this video had me rolling. "How did atheism go from Winnie the Pooh to Cocaine Bear almost overnight?" Looking forward to more videos sir!
"As a former atheist who used to regard Hitch as my personal hero"...
LOL, nice one! Nobody that has the capacity to understand Hitchens thinks this idiotic video is good or solid meaningful content. And you almost certainly did not find religion by method of discovery, which Hitchens and fellow skeptics and scientists encourage.
So if you were an atheist and skeptic or scientifically trained, either you did not actually understand the community that Hitchens belonged to and the methods they utilize, perhaps failed your scientific training, or a real life god came down in person and stood before you to give you the evidence required to know they are there.
My guess is neither. Just a religious zealot acting.
Mind if I ask what made you go back to religion? Im agnostic but still trying to find myself with what I believe in
@@Allin1Xaviread the everlasting man by Gk Chesterton, he's also a former atheist. It's a tough read but it'll help dismantle alot of atheist rhetoric
@@DN-wy3ud There are a lot of atheists in philosophy, you aren't gonna get much in the way of true understanding of either position from public speakers and politats. I did try to understand religious people and still think their arguments are fallacious up to and including their end goals which are implied but never stated outright and I doubt Apologetics Roadshow has ever had an original thought worth expressing in his entire life.
If humans are the single most important thing in the entire universe (so much so that even this supernatural being 'died' for us), then why has this supposedly all-powerful being never definitively presented himself or his message to us?. He always whispered in the brains of privileged "prophets". Suspicious (and please, don't say that the Bible is an historical factual book)
“It could be an alien playing a prank.” -The Dawkins Cult
Yea I’m going to put my faith in Christ over that thank you very much
Why have faith in anything to begin with? The time to accept a proposition is after you have evidence, not before.
@@2l84me8guess what? We have pages over pages of books!
@@2l84me8i have faith in the evidence after looking at it
@@flmadegabee If you actually had evidence, why are you still resorting to faith?
Again, what evidence?
@@2l84me8 im not listing out the hundreds of arguments for Gods existence you can research that in your own time. What im saying is I have faith that the evidence i saw in favor for God existing. Just like you can have faith in the evidence that your pilot for the travel company you paid money for isnt going to purposely crash the plane for no reason.
The phrase ''from Winnie the Poo to cocaine bear" is hysterical but true concerning New Atheisism
There is no such thing as "new atheism".
It's really not.
At least not compared to new christianity which periodically loses its goddamn mind, I really hope you guys dont get any true power again.. Even y`all gon regret it.
@@grapenut6094 A theocracy is a terrible thing to think about.
@@jusfugly I'm pretty sure David wood defined new atheism pretty clearly in this video.
As Sir Arthur Conan Doyle said, "Once You've eliminated the impossible, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truth." And as Sir Terry Pratchett colorfully added later, "the problem is in determining what is impossible."
Sir Doyle was tricked into thinking fairies were real and thought Houdini actually had magic even when Houdini himself told him otherwise
@@johncaulfield8935 Ah well, no one is perfect.
Wood's First Law:
"If you're going to reject an argument no matter how good or bad the argument is, then the fact that you reject the argument tells us absolutely nothing about whether the argument is good or bad."
It does however tell us that they don't value critical thinking.
Dr. David Wood, March 08, 2023 A.D.
Skepticism ad absurdum has been a defeater of atheism for centuries, it's only since the age of the internet that such a sophomoric mindset was able to metastasize to this degree
yes, richard dawkins reject the argument with his believe not with evidence, that is his religion 😂
Unfortunately Wood seems to think that all of his arguments are brilliant… and then somehow has to rationalize why most of the people who are smarter than him disagree.😂
Agreed 👏🏻 Tried being an atheist for a year or 2. Gotta say It was one of the most depressing times of my life. Even after learning so much about atheism and doing all kinds of research my heart just couldn’t accept that God is not out there. I know for sure in my heart that there is God and he is tacking care of me all the time❤️So yeah after taking a break from atheism I then decided to believe in the “Universe” and stuff. I am absolutely not back to my religion. ie Islam. But I believe in one God. And trying to learn more about Christianity🙏🏼❤️
Don’t base your beliefs on feelings. Ask yourself, where is the credible evidence for God? If he existed and wanted us to believe in him, why wouldn’t he show himself to the world? Why does the supposed embodiment of moral goodness allow 14 children to die every minute as a part of his plan?
Don’t fall for religious lies. Seek the truth based on evidence alone. You may not like it, but the truth is always preferable to lies.
@@ProsecutorZekrom
“The truth is always preferable to lies”
Oh the irony!! The fact is that militant atheism, that is fatalism and epistemological nihilism is a CULT movement hidden behind the cloak of “rationality” and scientism and materialism of the gaps fallacies that constantly uses anti religious Soviet hate propaganda left over from the Cold War, that is history revisionism and dishonest memes and buzz words to mock, badger and demonise anyone who challenges its myths and metaphysical presuppositions. It’s no different to debating a recruiter from the church of Scientology who just won’t leave you alone!!
Equally, when you lie, stereotype, straw man and malign Christ and freedom of religious expression you are not raging against the MACHINE, you’re raging FOR THE MACHINE.
Furthermore, demonising your political opponents by pretending that they are “LIARS”
and a massive “PROBLEM” is an ancient propaganda tool that’s been used by everyone from medieval dictators, to serial killers to the Soviet Unions propaganda machine.
“Death is the solution to all problems, no man no problem.” - (Joseph Stalin).
Sorry but that is why every Communist regime was and is an ATHEISTIC state. And in particular a STATE which THREATENS, terrorises and KILLS countless numbers of religious people and monotheists in a very short time. The atheistic social experiment has been tried, tested, weighed and measured and has been found ultimately meaningless, ultimately nihilistic and an ultimately INHUMAN and HORRIFIC atheistic DYSTOPIAN NIGHTMARE straight out of Albus Huxleys “BRAVE NEW WORLD”!!
As Karl Marx, coauthor of the The Communist Manifesto, declared…..
“COMMUNISM BEGINS WHERE ATHEISM BEGINS” [karl Marx]. Prove me wrong!! I’ll wait!!
Keep seeking...keep praying, im sure you have heard the Gospel. God loves you and Christ died for you, He was buried and raised from the dead.
Accept His gift and the same will happen for you.
I will be praying for you and others in similar situations. God bless
@@ProsecutorZekromlol look it's an atheist trying to convert someone to their religion of atheism. You literally just shared the atheistic "gospel" with her. Hahaha you atheists are always trying to proselytize to people when no one asked you to, even though you all complain about us Christians when we do it. Hypocrites. 😂
@@wesbyEricoh look another uninvited atheist trying to simultaneously trying to shame and covert this poor lady at the same time! Wow, you guys are talented. Lol 😂
“He who is a skeptic in one set of beliefs is a true believer in another set of
beliefs.”
-Phillip Johnson
ok but still there is no proof of the existence of god and that not a belief but a fact
@@serogaiusufir9615 proof? (if you reply and don't have sufficient proof then you have officially ascended to the status of a overripe tomato)
@Psalm i don't know for sure of the inexitence of god as much as i am not sure of the inexistence of the tooth fairy.
Not a single, valid, undisprovable proof of god have been brought up, not a single time.
why would you blindly believe what goes against science and fact that we discovered if not only because of the location and family you were born in?
why don't you believe in islam instead and approve of muhammad as the messenger of Allah if you are so willing to believe anything without proof
@@serogaiusufir9615 scientifically disprove God. I'll wait.
@@serogaiusufir9615 Is there a universe?
You can heal the sick, raise the dead,
turn the sky from a blue to red,
still the storm, calm the sea,
yet some people will never believe.
Can you do any of those?
So you saw them do it? Or you start to believe in that? Well thats the problem, yiu can convince yourself to believe what you never sqw or hear but you cant force anybody else to do the same. But amazing how religious peolle getting offened by people who wants proof for something? 😂 like go ahead and pray but if yiu git no proof say so, why getting butthurt over a FACT? 😂
I remember having a decision with a self described agnostic, and he said " do you have proof for god?" and so I went online to pull up different miracles from different cultures and try to string an argument with that im not the best at arguing but I felt the need to oblige him, but then he said shortly after that "even if I had direct evidence I wouldn't believe in God because he is mean" that's when I realized a lot of these guys are atheist by faith alone and proof isnt really going to do much for them.
He might of been that way and there is no such thing as faith in atheism
@@chamicels There is a lot of faith in atheism. They have full faith in macro evolution (which has never been observed, and science is supposed to be observable and testable.)
They believe there is no God. They will tell you that they "don't have enough evidence" to believe in God, and that they don't know if there is one, but then minutes later (with full confidence and arogance) will tell you that there is no God.
At least micro evolution has observable proof out there, and so I believe it. But believing in macro evolution is even more of a fairy tale than the atheists tell us that God is.
@@chamicelsyes, everyone chooses to believe in anything. We believe in things everyday and don’t even realize. That’s how much we are built to have faith, whether people put faith in other people or situations or things. The most sensible place of putting your faith is in the actual Creator who wanted you here in the first place.
@@shayalynn My atheism is based on lack of evidence not faith. My faith in gravity is I have haven't floated off into space at least yet. Two different apples.
@@chamicelsI’d have to disagree. The de-facto position should be agnosticism. You’re placing faith in the idea that there isn’t a God. You’re declaring that idea.
"The Dawkins drone" - I love that. It's true, Ive met many of them. It's a waste of time talking with them, they totally and utterly 'believe' in materialism and they 'believe' that somehow atheism makes them superior.
I used to be a "new atheist" many years ago until I learned that the atheist heroes I looked up to were not infallible geniuses but instead were just like the rest of us (with the only difference being that they're better public speakers!). Once I actually started to try examining the evidence and arguments myself, it didn't take me long to leave atheism behind.
Do you judge whiskey by Jim Beam White and Jack Daniel's?
Jack is atheisme? Wow
How great ur brain😁
Good one Titanium.
@@niningsetia4213
You don't seem to know how analogies work 🙄
@@wet-read to a whisky drinker like my self thats very funny. Glendronach 18 unchilled filtered 46% abv all the way
On Judgement Day, people like this will claim that God didn't try hard enough to convince them that He was real. They will spend eternity gnashing their teeth and crying about how unfair it all is, that they were never given a fair chance, forever blaming God for things caused by their own stubborn pride.
I notice the same thing watching Cops, always blaming someone else for their crimes
Every knee shall bow, every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord
I remember once about 2009 seeing my teenage niece reject a prayer card from her Granny. It was the prayer of St Francis. She had the gall to say with utter spotty conviction that her Gran was 'abusive'! She won't be told what to do by any 'flying spaghetti monster' -
Her Gran gave it to her because apparently the same niece had just said that she once experienced a ghost 🙄
It took all my strength to let my mum deal with her with love because let me tell you my toes were itching inside my shoe to plant one.
Thankfully, she grew up and gets embarrassed these days that she got taken in so strong. She says that the main driving factor for her was a sense of 'superiority' from running with the crowd and a fear of being labelled 'dumb'. These days she thinks the 'New Atheists' and the movement are a very cringy part of her growing up.
She was right in rejecting your catholic satanic religion, God is real but it isnt the catholic God
So you get violently angry when someone disagrees with you. That doesn’t say anything good about you. Especially considering it’s a young girl. You hold children to the same standard as adults with a fully formed prefrontal cortex and decades of experience? You’re a 🤡
yes, interrogating your childhood indoctrination is super cringe.
@@phoenixfire8226 getting violent over cringe would be a huge you problem
@@psyience3213 what?
There is the old joke:
A Protestant, a Catholic, and an Atheist in hell.
The Protestant says: “I’m surprised; I didn’t think I was going here at all.”
The Catholic says: “I always kind of suspected I was coming here, myself.”
The Atheist says: “I’m not here, and it’s not hot.”
Stupid. Atheism is the rejection of claims that have no proof. If we had proof, such as being in hell, we would believe.
Actually I'd say I am way better off in hell because the Christian heaven is so fucking boring
@@ADot-fi1ny cringe comment
@@freefall945 singing songs and praises to Jesus and God for enternity in the company of John Hagee Billy Graham and David Wood. How awful would that be? hell is much better with more fun people like Frank Zappa and John Lennon
@@ADot-fi1ny your childish unseriousness is not suggestive of a robust attempt to understand death, judgement, heaven and hell.
When atheists find out I'm a devout Christian I usually get one of two responses:
1) You didn't seem to me like the religious type because you seem so logical/sensible.
2) You just believe that because you were raised Christian.
However, I was not raised Christian. I wasn't raised anything. And it was logic and sensibleness that led me to Christianity. They often assume that I don't understand evolution, but in truth I probably understand the evolution argument much better than they do. Online I've even heard accusations of me having a low IQ. But according to the High IQ Society's IQ test, mine is above 145, which is genius range according to them.
In reality David summed it up rather well in this video. It's not that I haven't thought about it, it's that they haven't thought enough about it. And the more I learn about the world and how it works, it turns out that some of these "atheists" giving lectures and writing books, aren't even atheists at all, but some are straight up satanists putting up a front. People often forget about Satanists. But in the United States alone there are at least twice as many proclaimed Satanists as there are Jehovah's Witnesses. Which is about 1 in every 100 people.
'Anti-theists' is how I typically describe them. As many atheists like to say, 'atheism' is merely a lack of a belief in God. But like you said, many who call themselves 'atheist' are really satanist. Modern satanism is of course not bowing down to a horned red devil with a trident and a tail. Rather it is about rebellion against Christian tenets and institutions being rooted in 'hate' for God. Something that is becoming a trend in the 21st century apparently.
Also is that true that 1 out of 100 people identify as Satanists? That's an alarming number, especially since that only includes those who are willing to admit it. I would also assume that that data comes from the U.S.? I can't imagine another country that has gone off the deep end in that regard like America has.
You've pointed out something I've suspected about the Enlightenment: that many of the men calling themselves atheists were probably occultists in disguise.
What tuned me into this possibility was when I discovered that the book called His Dark Materials was written as an anti-Chronicles of Narnia series, by a man who claimed to be an atheist. Yet when look up an in depth synopsis of the series, without even having to read the book, you immediately see just how deeply occult it is. That made me wonder, if this guy is a witch disguising himself as an atheist, this same tactic has probably been used by other witches.
Then one day it clicked. The language of being enlightened with the Enlightenment probably wasn't an accident. The Dark Ages myth probably wasn't accident. That occured near a peak in occult interest in elite circles probably wasn't an accident. That the vitriolic arguments used mirror the vitriol seen in Gnosticism and in ancient occultists like Celsus probably isn't an accident.
I think you're spot on. When folks observe a difference between New Atheists and Old Atheists, I've come to believe that they're observing a second wave infiltration of occultism, very similar to what frequently occurs within the Church.
The same pagans who disguise themselves as Christians would have no problem disguising themselves as atheists. Playing both sides of the fence is something we've always been warned about.
loved reading your comment.
So true.
Your comment is very enlightening
Yep exactly 100% true, most of these have a "hidden" agenda
That's gotta be one of the best opening lines to a TH-cam video.
Agreed!
LOL
I actually laughed out loud 😂
And Dawkins is the Zakir Naik of atheism 🤣🤣
@@leiflohne3096 there has never been any evidence of any god.
I've said it before: among all atheists living and dead, Richard Dawkins is the one who has consistently strengthened my faith in the God of the Bible by demonstrating that even with a sharp mind and a cool accent, there are no rational arguments for Atheism, for the non-existence of God, or against Christianity.
How so?
unproved god, church going against science(heliocentrism, evolution), no flood etc etc
@@phylocybe_ by Georges Lemaître who expanded the discovery of Einstein
@@serogaiusufir9615 you talk as if no scientist was ever a christian... lolz.
Atheism stays true by default until you show us at least one god.
And we know that most of the stories of the Bible are fiction.😉
True story: I edit a philosophy magazine. When once-famous atheist Richard Swinburne converted from atheist to theism he sent us an article saying why. Unfortunately, he also sent it to Dawkins. Dawkins convinced him not to publish it 'because afterwards people wouldn't take him seriously'. That sounds like peer pressure to me. Or as you say, it's about as good as cult reasoning.
An Atheist is like a fish in a deep wide ocean looking EVERYWHERE for evidence of water..
good one
But a theist is the one that crashes planes into buildings
Aint kidding
the fish see water, feel water, breath through water, the fish know water exist
if you want a better analogy you should say that a sect of fish is praying Ariel the mermaid but she fails every single time to show up to prove her existence
@@serogaiusufir9615 nah her analogy is already accurate sometimes there are defective fish that aren't capable of realizing water is around them or that they feel it.
I swear David is absolutely British at heart with his next level sarcasm and humour! 👍😂
Hilarious, 😂 this made my day 🤣.
That sardonic humor among the Brits comes from repressed emotions while David has no emotions to repress, so perhaps such freedom in humor comes from freedom from emotional baggage.
@@MtlCstr perhaps 😂
He's a sociopath actually, which is key to his razor-sharp wit, logic, and reason.
@@MtlCstr I'm so glad you've met everyone from Britain so that you are in a position to be able to make such an undeniable critique of the emotional state of all 60 million of them.
Thank you for your depth.
So basically this dawkins dude is saying “even if its god, its not god.”
Yup.
He is just being humble, like all the atheists are, "I don't know, but it wasn't God."
@@WhatsTheTakeaway
’He is just being -humble- prideful, like all the atheists are, “I don’t know, but it -wasn’t- _couldn’t_ have been God.”’
@DaPennsilfaanischMann-gq4mq haha I was being very sarcastic with my comment, but yes, that is what I was trying to humorously convey
@@WhatsTheTakeaway
Oh, my bad! I forgot to read the fine print. 🙃
Being called the “Zakir Naik” of anything is an extreme insult that should not be taken lightly.
“The doors of Hell are locked from the inside”- C.S. Lewis
He said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
“He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’” (Luke 16:30-32)
This is 100% accurate to my personal experience when talking with the most committed yet self-proclaimed "open-minded" atheists.
What is that even supposed to mean.
@@ToveriJuriI'm saying that David's points are consistent with my personal experience engaging on these topics with people of said mindset.
I mean, Richard Dawkins has never once been beaten in a debate against a theist. Not once.
@@AverageAlien Dawkins has never one a single debate with anyone unless he provided the debater.
@Acrocanthosaurus He's won every single debate. You can't name a single debate he hasn't won. Religitards cannot win from the start, since they believe in fictional fairytales.
The simple fact, from my experience of 60 years, is they simply don't want to believe in God.
They can't stand the thought someone exists who is infinitely greater than they are and will hold them accountable for the life HE gave them.
These people are so high on their own intellect that they haven't the humility necessary to even investigate the idea of God.
someone who is infinitely greater is bondage by a tiny dust of universe call Earth and a book made by tree.
a True god will feel insulted and felt like God was defamed.
Nah, its nothing to do with "not wanting to believe in god", Im an atheist and I want to believe in god but I just dont believe the story provided by religious text. I was an atheist before Dawkins and Harris. Atheist views were common in the 1980's and 1990's. Particularly in the UK, Aust and Canada. Dawkins grew up in church schools, and he has said in interviews and his books that a belief in god can help people, gives them purpose and comfort but that doesnt mean its true. People who follow any religion can have benefits, but doesnt mean all the religions are true, People believed in Roman pagan gods, and Greek and many others but they were misinformed. Evidence is not good enough.
"and this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." - John 3:19
"How did atheism go from Winnie the Pooh to Cocaine Bear, almost overnight?" 😄David, you have me breaking out into laughter time and again. The opening line is just as good.
Atheism isn't a movement or group. It's a default stance.
@@AverageAlienAgnosticism is the default stance. Atheism is a claim.
@@fatstrategist there is no such thing as agnosticism.
@@fatstrategist atheism isn't a claim. Atheism is the default stance.
@@AverageAlien Are you trolling? (Edit: that sounded a bit rude, honestly. I’m sorry if that came off wrong)
I went through an agnostic phase in my teen years. Once I found out that I was being intentionally mislead by the education system, that was actually the first part of my conversion. There were a number of claims that were proven false by their very own evolutionary scientists that were allowed to remain in the classroom many decades later taught as if it were fact.
Yeah. For more take-downs of evolutionary science theory, check out Discovery Science channel. It's up to date.
Thats a feature of science not a bug.
Changing your mind in the face of new evidence is a good thing.
Doggedly sticking to explanations that the new data shows is incorrect would be a terrible thing.
And about the classroom part that is just bad education. Its on teachers to make sure what they teach is up to date.
But than again many of the supposed mistakes i hear about aren't actually taught.
As a teacher myself i am curious to know what incorrect things you learned.
@@garethwest9069 If your talking evolution than i am sorry to say that has been proven over and over again and is accepted by thousands of experts in many different independent fields of science and is by far the best explanation for all the data. It does it so well that even creationists these days accept evolution. Sadly their religion forces them to throw half of it out. Evolution? Fine
Evolution for longer than 3000 years? Impossible!!
But lets say for a second evolution is false.
Than we have no other viable alternative.
Creationism can't explain anything without its attached religion. Something that has no place in school (in my opinion).
Oh, science changed... oh... so we can assume you failed science in school and have a need for absolutisms like religion offers? Good job.
Btw, that is how science works. It makes every attempt to self-correct to the latest explanation of the data available. And just so you understand, this entire civilization and everything in it was built upon rational methodologies like science and logic, NOT faith.
@Michael Burkett It's exactly the opposite. Research the piltdown man. It was proven to be a hoax, but then allowed to remain in the science museum and in the classroom decades later and that's just a very small tip of a very large iceberg. Those who were PRETENDING to stand on science were already disqualified by their own scientists several decades earlier.
The fact that dawkins said the "second" coming wouldn't convince him is impressive... He just admitted that Jesus exists and therefore knows he's accountable. The big problem for him is that he'd also be helucinating for eternity in hell
Dizzle: "Remember when Richard Dawkins made powerful arguments against the existence of God?"
Me (in my head): No but I'm open to being wrong-
Dizzle: "Neither do I."
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I remember reading a theological argument that it is the stubborn and proud-minded that keep themselves in hell. I thought, "What kind of person when faced with the truth of God would turn the other way?" Well, here we are...
That reminds me so much of the dwarves from The Last Battle book in the Narnia series.
It’s one of the most tragic scenes in the book.
They refuse to believe anything they see or hear or taste or feel because they were lied to by very clever politicians essentially and they are so afraid of being deceived they won’t listen to anyone else anymore.
“Dwarves are for the dwarves!”
this is why I'm an agnostic. If enough evidence presented itself, I would believe in a creator.
Thats literally what Atheists say: There is no evidence for god, therefore we don't belief in god. It's as simple as that. Therefore every atheist ist also an agnostic. People who call themselves agnostics just have most of the time not as strong of an opinion regarding this topic and are more unsure in their opinion. I, for example, consider myself to be an Atheist, because in my observation every argument for God is based on at least one logical fallacy, religious thinking is inherently toxic and just false, since it is a fixed belief, rather than an evidence based belief and it hurts everyone in the long-term, since it perverts our sense of self at an extremely basic level. Thats why i don't just call myself an agnostic, but an atheist. Because it is in principle irrational and harmful to belief and promote things that don't have any grounding in the actual observable reality.
I like Dawkins’ appeal to authority in citing Clarke’s Third Law …
which is from Science Fiction.
Not quite. And there you have the difference between a gullible theist - who assumes his beliefs are automatically true - and a skeptical theist, who assures he checks and double checks his facts. Clarke attained a first-class degree in mathematics and physics from King's College London. After this, he worked as assistant editor at Physics Abstracts. Clarke served as president of the British Interplanetary Society from 1946 to 1947 and again from 1951 to 1953.
Although he was not the originator of the concept of geostationary satellites, one of his most important contributions in this field was his idea that they would be ideal telecommunications relays. He advanced this idea in a paper privately circulated among the core technical members of the British Interplanetary Society in 1945. The concept was published in Wireless World in October of that year. Clarke also wrote a number of nonfiction books describing the technical details and societal implications of rocketry and space flight. The most notable of these may be Interplanetary Flight: An Introduction to Astronautics (1950), The Exploration of Space (1951), and The Promise of Space (1968).
In short, he was *very much* a well educated scientist. One who loved to write science fiction on the side, granted.
It is not.
You falsely assume that SF authors always write pure fantasy.
In fact, many a good SF book analyses the (real) human behaviour and predicts the future. We are now certainly living in the world predicted by "451 Fahrenheit".
Ridiculous.
He's not appealing to authority, he's just giving credit to the guy who came up with the quote.
@@tezz2698 It's not even that. Some people erroneously assume that *ANY* involvement of an expert is fallacious - which is simply untrue. To the contrary, it is a practical and sound way of obtaining knowledge that is generally likely to be correct when the authority is real, pertinent, and universally accepted. Which in this case - he is.
But also, if we strip Clarke from the argument, the argument itself is compelling and is defensible enough to survive scrutiny - even without Clarke's name attached to it.
If a fallacy is called out when none is there, it's a "fallacy fallacy". In short, there are so many things wrong with the initial comment, it's hardly any fun countering it.
😉
I’ve often asked self professing atheists what evidence would they accept. All have answered in this way. This is because “the fool says in his heart, there is no God.”
I find Christians typically overstate what evidence they have and what it actually entails. We have a human history of making up many types of gods, so the type of evidence I would need would be something that can distinguish true from false claims made of this type. I.e. Let's say a believer says a demon acted in a given incident, and a demon did not in fact act. Can you determine that their assertion was false? If this is all made up, would that not be evidence of it being made up? Yet you try and orchestrate a grand story and pretend its more than what you actually have when every single one of these claims come down to this type of scenario. I "believe" it happened, and make no effort to verify it, because "it makes sense".
I'm not saying there is no god I'm saying there is no evidence for
Which God, there are plenty. The Christian God? The Muslim God?
This video is garbage
@@ZeekRulezz990 Research intelligent design. You need more faith to assume everything happened by random chance. Thats ur religion that isnt even logical compared to theism. you need to tell us why your worldview of DNA making itself from nothing as well as the universe makes more sense. ujntil u can provide an alternative then sorry U cannot claim to be a thinker. if u admit evolution doesnt have anything to do with abiogenesis u are admitting u have no working model and live purely on faith but without any good reason purely emotional
@@ZeekRulezz990What evidence are you looking for?
This is a perfect example of one hardening their own heart to God. No matter the evidence before them they refuse to believe in anything.
@@brotherben4357 For me it is the complexity of the information biological systems are built on, which presenets the classic chicken or egg senario i.e. which came first the information that builds the biological machines or the machines that act on that information. The answer of course for both questions is God.
The universe could not have created itself.
You have zero evidence. Ever. So very obviously, but since you think there is evidence, show us. Show the world. And do so without the need to kill someone to show them that ONLY after death can they truly know whether there is a god or not, because as of this moment, you people only have faith, the opposite of what evidence is.
@@Dilly972 lol... so you fill your ignorance with a god...
@@WWYG316 a god could not have created itself. So another god before your god must have created it, right? No? Huh... it's almost as if you don't have an argument to begin with and haven't bothered to look up that there are actually mathematics that demonstrate something can come from nothing. It's called the Wheeler-DeWitt equation.
Even if there is uncertainty, it is not a cause to fill any of the gaps of ignorance with magic, or a god.
I agree on some of the actual points you made against Sam and Dawkins. And I even agree anyone who follows a person blindly does deserve some amount of criticism. But those points were muddled in between lengthy rants consisting mostly of straw manning, personal attacks, generalizations, and over dramatizations.
Do people not see the irony in someone who constantly uses logical fallacies, argues in bad faith, and displays an ego second to none making a video about others doing the very same thing? 🤔
Thanks, David. Your "Scooby Doo" video was eye opening for me. It turns out cultish behavior isn't just limited to cults. You see it all over the place.
i was thinking the same thing
Yes in every church
@@allenanderson5297 In all of society as the recent pandemic has perfectly shown, and that's just one example.
That was a top 10 video of his.
YOU CHRISTIANS HAD ABOUT 2000 YEARS TO PROVE /SHOW GREAT EVIDENCE OF YOUR GOD! ALL I HEAR IS PHILOSOPHY/WORD SALAD AT IT'S BEST . A MURDEROUS,GENOCIDAL, PRO-SLAVERY, RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC HATEFUL CULT AT IT'S WORST!!!! THE GOD OF THE BIBLE (WHITE JESUS) DON'T EXIST! IF HE DID HE COULD GO TO HELL!!!!!
"Richard Dawkins, the Zakir Naik of atheism" 😂👍
Yeah. This is true.
What ? I did not know idiots are also in Sweden. Most atheist don't care what comes out of Dawkins mouth , its the rationality, not the the one speaking dummy 🤣
@@ayamayamblackwhite3190
Sweden? 🤣
@@swissapologetics autotyping! dumb ass Switzerland ahole
😂😂 zakir naik is legend , he has destroyed the most knowledgeable christians ......
He is just a kid ....
I have a bachelor degree in theology (dropped out with my master's degree almost finished), my major was philosophy of religion (branch of systematic theology), so I studied a thing or two about atheism too.
One of my student colleague wrote an essay for the bachelor degree about Dawkins' book, so we did have extensive discussions about it. We really had trouble finding anything new in Dawkins thinking when it was looked from the comparative view of history of atheism. It was interesting of course, but also somewhat disappointing that Dawkins' arguments were so easily dismissed with existing apologetic writings and of course some theologians were looking into it at the time and did a good job at commenting on Dawkins' views.
Saying that Dawkins' had some kind of cult of personality seems to be depicting of his followers. Many times I ran into people using the same exact arguments that Dawkins did to the point that I could say "oh you've read Dawkins", because I had a quick read of his works and could easily identify some of the arguments.
Part of the arguments that I've heard were these "oh you studied theology, you must be stupid"-kind of nonsense and downright dismissing any reasonable discussion with "religious people are stupid"-attitude. Well, I looked into it and then found out that some of his followers on some forum were writing these "how to confront a religious person"-rules and apparently some people actually followed these rules. The rules were dismissive and basically outlined an abusive stragegy to end a discussion by ridiculing your "opponent" in a way where "you come out as the winner". It was not pretty.
Sometime there started to emerge these memes that were made to ridicule the origins of christian traditions and celebrations, but many of those were fabricated and had no basis in real history. No-one seemed to care about fact checking or if they actually had any truth in it. Turned out at least some of these memes originated from the discussion groups of Dawkins' followers.
Now, I wouldn't be annoyed about someone writing about atheistic world view, but people using abusive strategies in conversations and spreading disinformation while claiming that they are thinking for themselves and advocating science is what really got on my nerve.
I think it was at the point when people started using atheism against islam and the racist people also started to use the same arguments, when people got into thinking that maybe what they are doing isn't exactly righterous. At least I feel the "new atheistic" movement has gone silent as the connection with racism got a bit too strong to handle.
Well, it has been interesting. I just hope people actually learn critical thinking and read some philosophy and theology if they get into these subjects. It would be fair to admit that the scientific theory doesn't give us the tools to examine God as a theory; christian God is panentheistic, omniscient and omnipotent, so we can't step outside of the system (because God is even greater than all existence) to make observations and we cannot rule out the possibility that God manipulates our measurements and ultimately we can't rule out that God is in us and affects how we experience everything. So scientifically speaking, we cannot examine this topic, we cannot know, so we remain agnostic ("no knowledge"). If someone wants to take an atheistic or theistic stand: that is a matter of faith.
This idea was originally conceived of and presented by human beings and if there's no further verification of this other than it being an abstract hypothetical concept then how do you consider it to be a possibility and not just an unfalsifiable idea we made up?
@@enzoarayamorales7220 can we assume that all "made up unfalsiable ideas" are impossible? It's a matter of logic really: can we assume that reasoning alone is a valid source of information? Or should we trust more on observation and maybe just say that we cannot have certainty on matters like this.
I never studied philosophy in depth, and only started seriously studying the Bible a decade ago. Even before then, _Dawkins arguments made me ill._ How could a supposed scholar, a scientist supposedly looking for truth, use the same kind of lazy, fallacious logic I heard re: religion back in middleschool? If anything, his willful ignorance/rejection of anthropology, history, theology, psychology, etc. was what always boiled my blood the most.
Hell, using his own terminology, _religion shows hallmarks of being an evolutionarily advantageous meme._ Which begs the question, if religion was so advantageous to our ancestors' survival that it has mostly become hardwired into our DNA, how can one seriously expect only good things to happen if large numbers of people rejecting wholesale a complex, heterogenous, unifying, _civilization-building_ social phenomenon?
Dawkins needs Jesus. And serious therapy.
Your final conclusion is false: agnosticism also requires faith. For one, evidence requires faith in order to be accepted, but more to the point. Your claim is still a claim whether it's agnostic or not, and so requires faith just like any other claim does.
Saying something can't be known is not a neutral position.
Personally, I don't think New Atheism died out as racists started to use it. I think it evolved into things like modern social justice movements and critical theory. They all have in common the tactics you mentioned, a hatred for Christianity, a disregard for the role of evidence and truth in their thinking, and so on.
I think that this religion-free utopia they envisioned has definitely not panned out the way they hoped. They disregarded the fact that human beings are basically inherently religious. Unless you have the exact mindset of guys like Dawkins, if you abandon Chrisiriaity, you'll just turn that same energy and dedication towards something else that gives your life meaning and purpose - like neo-paganism or political activism.
Also, he said he can’t imagine what any evidence would look like for the existence of God, which means even if he looked at evidence that confirm God, he wouldn’t even know he was looking at it
This is why I remained an agnostic for so long and was even less convinced about atheism than Christianity. There were plenty of arguments and evidence for the existence of God that could be found throughout history, but atheism was always just, "well, I don't see the type of proof that I wanna see so therefore, God doesn't exist". I felt that it was more likely that some sort of divine being existed, even if I was unsure about who that was at the time. Atheism is not a lack of beliefs but a set of its own beliefs and assumptions that rely on rejecting any and all arguments for the existence of God. Atheists have tremendous faith in their belief that there is no God, so even if God appeared to them in some way, they would not accept Him. To say that they would reject any proof because they could be hallucinating or delusional tells me that they don't trust their own cognition enough to believe what they perceive. If that's the case, why do they trust it enough to somehow come to the conclusion that there is no God? How are they sure that they can trust their reasoning in saying that God doesn't exist, but would not even be able to trust their own senses if the were to perceive Him directly? Their arguments are flawed and full of many contradictions.
In his posthumously-published Observations Upon the Prophecies of Daniel and the Apocalypse of St. John, Isaac Newton expressed his belief that Bible prophecy would not be understood "until the time of the end", and that even then "none of the wicked shall understand". Listening Dawkins I understand what Newton meant.
FINALLY a live stream at a decent time for Europeans!
As a person from Africa I agree we too prefer not seeing the schedule be at 04:00 am.
@@B3tabyt3 Yes of course. Normally when I write this (I try to all the time!) I write "Europe down to Southern Africa" because I know South Africa and Sweden got the same day time.
We see you fellow Europians...we see you. God bless my friend. 😎
😂 😂 Yep from Cape to Cairo as we call it down here. Anyway sleep well. May the Lord bless and protect your family.
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"Professing to be wise, they became fools..."
A good description of the person on the video clip.
@@jusfugly Your god, Richard Dawkins 🙂
@@raphaelfeneje486 When I came to the realisation, I no longer believed the fantasy stories, there was no internet and I had never heard of Richard Dawkins.
So, what other deliberately misleading statements would you like to make?
@@jusfugly There was no internet?? LOL... You should be in your 100's then. Because you're literally lying to yourself. Fantasy stories aren't backed up by evidence. Historical evidence. It's like saying there's a unicorn. Christianity is backed up by evidence. You not believing doesn't affect it. It's your problem if you say you have no purpose in life and don't know what's good or bad 🙂
@@raphaelfeneje486 You don't research anything, do you?
It would have been easy for you to read a few minutes of history, to explain the history of the internet, nut you chose to call me a liar, instead.
Very christian of you.
None of your bible stories are backed by historical evidence.
Yes, saying that there is a unicorn is exactly like saying that your pretend god exists.
There is no evidence for either
He knows God exists.
He just hates him.
Well he did kill thousands of innocents in Egypt.
How do you know that? Can you read minds?
@@tezz2698Innocents who took part in slavery?
@@EmperorofChinaItwillgrowlarger children bruh
That was an excellent question from Peter.. I'm enjoying the twisting... They lack what I lacked ages ago....Faith.
For decades I was agnostic...However the more I studied mathematics, physics, biology....the more I was questioning my agnostic stand....I started studying the history of the disciplines....the closer I got to finally rereading my bible studies from childhood .Well that opened my mind and eventually my heart.
Dawkin's methodology of avoiding theism is just sci-fi polytheism
Could you elaborate? I'm curious specifically how you mean
@@roberjohnsmith i think that he is equating the alien discourse of Dawkin as an ancient polytheism, but instead gods, aliens
@@umnovomundo3738 I'm convinced that God could reveal himself to every atheist in the world and they would all just claim that it's aliens.
@@phylocybe_ Atheists have extraordinary faith in God’s disexistance, more than most religious people’s faith in a designer.
@@phylocybe_ if God is real iam sure he would have the power to convince every atheist. But he doesn't. Not even to a degree that it looks like alien power rather than God power.
I came here because someone was parodying this video and your video is better.
Good to see you here Erik. Can I see this parody too?
@@leahcimmmm look up Non Alchemist
One thing I tell atheists who try to challenge my faith:
I'd rather get to the end of life having lived as a faithful Christian and finding out there is no god than denying God and finding out he is real
Hello David, greetings from The Netherlands.
4 years ago I started to read and educate myself about God, about the person of Jesus, about science and about Islam.
I apreciate all your videos. I have some books that you recomanded and the information from your videos was more than enough on certain topics. May God bless you and your family and keep you close to Him on your journey in this life.
I can't help myself but smile after watching this video. This is how I described the New Atheits ever since I heard about them. Nothing more than a bunch of emotional bullies who think they discovered the truth and whoever dissagre with them should be removed, no wonder why the LGBTQ movement started from them.
Dear brothers and sisters in Chris, I would like to share with you a verse from a song very dear to me: Ye fearful saints, fresh courage take; The clouds ye so much dread/ Are big with mercy and shall break/ In blessings on your head (God moves in a mysterious way).
Bless you!
Goed bezig.
Ik heb mijzelf een jaar geleden ook bekeerd naar Christus, hij heeft mij laten bekeren door zijn wonderen, genadigheid, vrijgevigheid, en nog vele andere krachten van onze Heer,
God zegene u en uw naaste.
I’m also Daniel and I lived in the Netherlands for a year! I wanna practice Dutch again, can we get in touch? I think we’d have a lot to talk about Christianism
@@danielaraujo5811 That makes 3 Daniels in this comment section. 2 of which are Dutch.
@@cdanny304 that’s funny
Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’ And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’ ”
I'm glad you are turning your guns towards the "New" Atheism. They got me in my teens. As a result I became a viscous and miserable person for a decade of my life. I hope others can come to see the way out too.
You can trace a causal line from the New Atheism, to Atheism Plus, to the modern Woke movements. In short its fruits have been a blight on western civilization.
Any thoughts on how to bring others out?
@edukaeshn there's no magic arguement. Be a humble witness.
@@briansardinas1359 Care to elaborate? I just can't fathom being an atheist other than some kind of temper tantrum, shaking one's fist at the Creator because of a lack of appreciation for existence.
Rest assured that, when his knee is bowing and his tongue is confessing, he WILL be convinced. Unfortunately for him, at that time it will be too late. I pray that he would see the light before it's too late. Could you imagine if Richard Dawkins became an actual born again Christian? Imagine all of the lost and confused ants crawling around aimlessly without their "queen".
"Ants" ready to receive the gospel, perhaps?
My family is from the former Soviet Bloc and so I grew up in an atheist household. It was so strict that once in HS i had to write a paper on Job for my World Lit class and had to check a Bible out from the library.. My father saw it and he went ballistic. He was screaming: "GET THAT BOOKOUT OF MY HOUSE!" Anyway, I thought I was helping people by being an atheist and freeing them from an unnecessary framework. I even did separation of church and state activism back in the 80's.
Then the "New Atheists" came along and exposed me to groups of atheists I was totally unfamiliar with. These people didn't want to help anyone. These weren't trying to be a dutiful daughter (like I had been) and I totally reexamined why I was an atheist in the first place and eventually was saved. Sometimes I think about what happened and I can't believe it but it's real.
David, your dry sense of humour is greatly missed. So good to see you posting more often!
"Nothing would." -the guy who called Antony Flew senile for changing his mind based on the evidence.
I was pulled into New Atheism over a decade ago.
Simply observing the effects on my life and secularism on my nation turned me to Christ a few years ago.
Frankly, from a purely pragmatic point of view, Christianity makes far better societies to live in the secularism. While I have struggled with faith, I have never doubted that its a massive boon for humanity and its waning is destroying the Western world.
Luke 16: 30 & 31 "they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead"
Luke was written in 3rd person as well...
the proof should be as important as the claim. if you raise the dead cool for you, you are a necromancer at best.
if you are god, you should show us how he create stars, planet, life
@@serogaiusufir9615 show me a necromancer first .
@@DaddyAZTL cant it has never been proven that a necromancer has ever existed
@@serogaiusufir9615 again. Jesus has been historically proven to exist. all accounts point to that. then the witnesses claiming to have seen him then the fact they died over this claim.
Actually wild that he admits that finally.
Truth’s been out for a long time, but agreed.
Excellent video, and so true. To a unbiased person Dawkins admitting nothing can make him believe in God should make you reject him as a blind guide.
Denying evidence is the actual definition of stupidity.
By dorkins logic, literally anything could be literally anything else so even atheism is ultimately blind faith. This is the absurdity they devolve to.
Lmaooo dorkins
Atheism is the lack of belief in god. By definition you cannot have "faith" in atheism.
Richlard Dlorking
I remember laughing at them when they started calling themselves "Brights".
It is the height of irrationality to follow a rule of thinking which would absolutely prevent me from acknowledging certain kinds of truth if those kinds of truth were really there. - A paraphrase of William James as quoted by Gordon Clark
Voltaire said that if they found Noah's Ark and dragged it through town square, he said he would still refuse to believe it.
“You’re in a cult” says guy who definitely is in a cult.
I really appreciate this David. I have two sons who are not Christians. Every bit of knowledge gained is a blessing. Thankyou so much. I would love to hear more of your insight.
I just spit out my sip of water laughing. I said "no" with my head, and the "neither do I" response got me. 💀😂
I said "neither do I" just before David did.
U feel being rap by Alicia stone?😁
U put ur own legitimate hobby becoME others behavior😁😁
So glad to see you alive and well, David! God bless you and your family.
I see no contradiction with evolution & the teachings of Christ.
Yikes. This is so scary. Remember to pray for Richard and all the followers who blindly are marching towards the wide gate. Lord have mercy.
"People don't have Ideas, Ideas Have People" Carl Jung
A number of years ago while posting on an Internet Forum and at the same time Google chatting with my 20 year old Daughter, I asked her "What does it take to Change someone's Worldview?"
She replied in an instant, one word "Crisis"
Or a compelling argument, or compelling evidence. A crisis might cause you to change your world view, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will lead you to the truth.
I think it's so crazy that Richard Dawkins thinks if the stars wrote out "I am God, believe in me" in multiple languages, the most plausible explanation is "It was probably aliens MOVING THE STARS." lol
I mean... the aliens 👽👽👽 would probably be gods 🕺🤖, by any objective definition, so they are definitely not mutually exclusive statements 🗒.
@@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana but how would aliens know our languages and why would they do it?
@@ninjaked1265 the ways of alien tricksters are mysterious
It might make sense for certain _extremely specific_ sci-fi narratives (e.g. _The Three-Body Problem),_ but as I just said, _that is science fiction._ More than anything, falling back on such a fallacious argument demands he provide evidence the scenario he offered as explained is even possible, which would entail proving extraterrestrial intelligences exist and that they are directly fucking with us/him personally out of malice or mischief.
I also suspect such a hypothetical miracle wouldn't be limited just to visual signs either. If there was an earthquake, some great reverberating noise, or some traumatizing phenomenon that I lack the vocabulary to describe, one which _large numbers of people experienced simultaneously with him,_ would Dawkins still have the figurative balls to deny God _shaking His head in exasperation?_
I think that the atheist "community" was stunned by the defection of one of their most cherished intellectuals- Antony Flew. Moving from atheism to a vague sort of theism, Flew quickly became an unperson in the atheist "community". He was no longer cited as a reference in their books, and he was no longer referred to when atheists continued to use his arguments.
David is back on TH-cam? Nice!
Missed him, I realized he's back on 2 different channels a week or two ago. I missed him.
I liked Eric Metaxis' recognition that replacing God with "aliens" just kicks the can further down the road. Who made the aliens then? Same problem. So silly.
P.S. Your impression of Dawkins made me giggle.
Reminds me of trying to talk to a lot of the flat earthers. I respect their willingness to question the main stream narrative. They lose me in their refusal to question the "answers" that they've found.
I would support Elon Musk taking flat earthers to space. I wonder if even being on the moon they'd reject the earth being round.
@@Swiftninjatrev Sadly, many would. They would claim they had been hypnotized or something.
@@michaelbarr3039 Lol those who don't want to accept the truth will find any excuse possible, no matter how unprobable or illogical.
There is a terrifying situation described in 2 Thessalonians 2:11, 12 that arises when people willingly reject the Truth:
"And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
Willfully rebelling against something you know to be true is not only intellectual suicide, but incurs the ultimate penalty, damnation.
Romans 1:20 reminds us that EVERYONE knows there is a God. Those of us who have fought God but now have become his own dear children because he sought us out should be very thankful.
You can trust Jesus to save you! Trust him today!
Thanks DWood for this. Like others, I’m mighty glad to see you back here.
Atheists deeply sadden me because they are intensely unaware what they are up against. If only they realised that all humanity became blind to evidence since Eden. The father of Lies told our first parents that if they disobeyed God their eyes would be open and they would see and be like gods. So guess what happened when Adam and Eve fell for that trick: of course they became blind. To say that they saw - as God wanted them to see - would be saying the Father of Lies had told them the truth. We also forget that he succeeded to con a third of God’s holy angels as well. We happen to have received sight from the giver of eyesight which is why we see. What also helps is a little humility, which they badly are in need of.
I feel sorry for Dawkins, he has started a process he cant stop, soon he will question if he himself exists. Everything is becoming so clear. The way the image is revealed it seems in order to believe in ourselves and be sure that we exist we must believe in God first, and see the universe through his eyes. Thank you for this video!
It is not that Dawkins questions his own existence, he knows that he exists and has no doubt about that. It's that Dawkins is full of hatred towards God and actively fights against him, with whatever he's got. He cannot call himself an atheist bc it requires (by definition) to actually believe that there is no god. But as Dawkins mentioned, even if God would appear in front of him physically, he would not believe it. Which is a lie btw. Of course he knows that God exists, already. His thinking shows that he decided to not believe into God even if it is align with science, for instance measuring Gods existence/aura (if we say God manifested himself in front of Dawkins for a minute to show him that he is real). So in the sum, he is a Satanist, not an atheist.
@user-iq8kz7yo3h Dawkins hates something that doesn't exist? News to me. That's fascinating. Tell me more about how dawkins hates some magical man made fairytale being.
I love how Dawkins is number one enemy of religitards, because he's so effective at easily destroying your fairytales at a foundational level
@@AverageAliendon't argue with lunatics, they would rather believe their pedo priest, they are desperate they are losing.
@@AverageAlienEffective at what ? He's so far off the deep end, he can't even accept that the values he holds so dear stem from Christianity, nor does he realize that he created a hive minded cult of spiteful nutcases. As you yourself are proving with your Redditor-tier "debate skills" lmfao
@@AverageAlienno way you typed that with a straight face
I'm so stealing this, particularly the line: "How did atheism go from Winnie the Pooh to cocaine bear!" 😂
Just remember, they believe the science that endless "multiverses" exist with endless versions of you, but God is just ridiculous....k...
I wish they would just admit they hate God. He exists and they hate Him.