7 More Signs Your Pastor is Absolutely Toxic
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ค. 2018
- Is your pastor toxic? If so, you'll experience church hurt in his/her ministry if you haven't already.
Borrowing from Thom S. Rainer's list of toxic leadership signs, I'm expounding on seven more characteristics of unhealthy apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers. If you missed part one, you can watch it here: • 7 Signs Your Pastor is...
If you have been hurt by a toxic pastor, you may not want to step foot into a church again.
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Exactly what happened to me....after building the media ministry from scratch, worked hard for 2 years. Than I went through a difficult time in my life and I couldn't attend church like I used to, I received a call one Sunday they just told me that they had a meeting and got me off the ministry they had chosen somebody else. My heart was broken to pieces, not because I was removed from the position but for the way they did it, for the way that when they needed me I was there but they couldn't be there for me at all when I went through hardship in my life. It's like what I was going through had no importance for the pastor and his team, from there nobody never came to check me out...I just got tossed away and forgotten. I was so broken that I went through depression, it took me a year to come out of the darkness of pain and guilt.
Why are people following Pastors in the first place? I dont get it, I have never understood it since my early childhood, aren't we supposed to follow Jesus?
still no answer?
They follow pastors because they haven't completely open their hearts along with trust in Jesus as their truly answer. They see a man who God speaks through to present the church and too many people fall into the pastor for personal issues, instead of taking those personal problems to the true Almighty Messiah Jesus Christ and these pastors... not all.. but some can be differential than what you expect this is why I want to tell others in church do not rely on pastors there are some really good ones out there that God will speak through and then there's some other ones who would just ignore you and you got to be careful you know which ones to weed out and which not.... God bless to those who can see it. Have experienced when I asked for a prayer request and I was ignored that's when God is telling you what is going on... you'll know.
They are not supposed to follow them unless they are following Christ. All 5 fold ministry are called to build up and edify the body. Never to cut up the body, or abuse, however we're all flawed. So if you are not getting built up or edified, God may be directing you elsewhere. Once mature, you don't need to be edified as much and in fact should be edifying others in the body.
Typically when you go to a church, the pastor is one who leads the people in the church. Yes the people are to follow after and be more like Christ, but the pastors job is to teach and instruct the people on how to do that. The problem arises when pastors start seeing so much growth, they start trying to form relationships with people that will benefit them or their ministry. Example, if a doctor making 6 figures began attending a small church and he also has a business background, a toxic pastor would began moving whoever was in charge of....say....scheduling volunteers out of that position and moving the new rich guy in and making sure he was well taken care of in the church. The pastor would also make sure that person was tithing the correct amount but also putting some extra in the offering in exchange for providing extra expenses for their ministry, likely that was never offered to the previous guy. Thats why many people leave toxic churches because the pastors values no longer reflect what should be viewed as "Christ-like". Pastors start saying "Look what ive done for the community" and "Look at how ive built this church from the ground up" instead of "Look at what The Lord has done for us and he can do the same for you"
Man Worship is a huge Idolatry sin in Religion today!! Choose Jesus! Follow Him🔥🙌🏻
"the pride of life"=dropping names,titles, and honors, stating how great THEY are
because they seek self glorification rather than Gods
Oh yes
It's also called closet or covert narcissism.
The pastor at my church was a control freak
I was diagnosed with Lupus and haven't been able to attend Church regularly and i can't give to the church as i would like. I was able to attend two Sundays ago and told the pastor i was in pain, he didn't said "I will pray for you". He make me feel like i didn't matter. 😢 He compared my pain with another lady in Church and brush me off. I felt like an outcast. Nobody cares now a days, its about the money and how much can serve. My heart is broken. I feel i can't go to this church anymore. 😢
I’m sorry this happened. I had Covid last September and was out all month. No one bothered calling or texting . I don’t trust them now, although NOW various folks call or text where have you been and “You need to go to church. “ I dread going there.
It's so sad how church has changed. I intercede constantly...
My pastor talk so much n loud from d pulpit but he himself don't walk d talk... it's get me so ashamed of this pastor... Pray for me n family to find another house of Jesus....
Toxic people are a test to check if our eyes are on Jesus only. ♥️ We need to see and hear the Holy Spirit in the vessel, and discern between the flesh and Spirit in a person. Those who keep their eyes on Jesus, He will keep in perfect peace. 🙏 Isaiah 26:3
Josephine Jehoiada Amen 🙌🏾
Yes👋👋👋🙌
AMEN & AMEN!!!
So happy I "accidently" came across your channel , I needed this. I have been crying out about this , I thought I was alone, I thought this was a taboo topic. I'm so grateful for your journey and obedience. This is helping me.
We've experienced this twice. Psychological abuse really took a toll on us physically, emotionally and we really need healing.
Its so crazy. I never thought it would happen to me. I used to be so close with my pastor and he fits into almost every one of these points
James 2:3
If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, "Here's a good seat for you," but say to the poor man, "You stand there" or "Sit on the floor by my feet
This also goes for the Pastor who treats the members who go to church faithfully and tithes how they praise them and treat them better than the believers who don't attend the church faithfully or even have the money to even tithes.
May The Lord continue to bless you and use you as a daughter of Zion Reverend Jennifer.
Be of good courage. Keep your spiritual eyes open and speak the Word of God with boldness, because only the truth will set people free.
One more thing, Walk in love dear Soldier of the light and Stay the course no matter what holding forth the Word of life, for one day you shall be crowned for your faithfullness and integrity.
I heard this when it first came out and it helped me so much. I find myself in this mess AGAIN, so I’m listening again. Thank you so much for this teaching. I refuse to stay in the toxic situation any longer. God Bless you!
That's TRUE! I LOVE Jesus. But no way Jose, I'm staying under a SPIRITUAL abuse leader. I'm writing this for the future. I know GOD is so faithful. I come in agreement with video and the prayer! In Jesus name, Amen!
Darling sister,I suffered the same for 2 decades. Thanks to Jesus finally I could come out. Just go on preaching. This is v needy subject ! Hugs n blessings from India !
Also you will be cut off if you ever question something that is said or even minor problems within the church.
There is a senior pastor in Central Florida who checks all your points. A despicable human being who has besmerched and betrayed many. Sadly you speak truth.
This goes on especially in predominately African American churches!
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I am Latino and I was abused a lot in the 2 Spanish churches I went.
Why is that?
So interesting! And that’s been my experience.-Lisa
It’s not racial it’s spiritual I’m black woman in my late 20s saying it from experience
Over 30 years ago I spotted this abuse in our churches with toxic pastors and I would give them the benefit of the doubt for only so long and then try and talk to them about what I saw . Very few times was there a restoration . It's not fun to do this but most people won't go near this type of ministry.
Same here in our church ⛪️ they don't call 📱 or check up on you.
I thank the Lord for using you Jennifer Leclaire all what you have taught is what I have gone through.. I thank the Lord for leading me to my now Apostle who really has shown me a REAL Apostle chosen selected by the Lord for Kingdom purposes.
Thank you for this series you have a lot of wisdom, much appreciated 😊.
I'm so sorry you went through that Jennifer
you seem like a nice lady and someone who is honest Thank God now you are in a way better place
So true ,so true, unfortunately, but God is pulling the true church from the religious legalistic Church and I thank God for that , we've been through some experiences of thinking loyalty and yet it was blind wrong loyalty, would've been nice to hear this 30 years ago , LOL
No, this is all a huge LIE!
God bless you. I knew I wasn’t alone.
This is a great on time word!!
Really needed this
Amen good teaching i experience every thing you speaking on my wife and I.
Nailed it Jennifer!!!!!
She’s speaking the 100% truth.
Sorry for what you went through apostle
I had a pastor who I told I think I was call to preach in the future. He took me in under his leadership and eventually told me he had a trial sermon set up for me. I thought it was strange cause I told him I was not called right now. I went through with it anyway because I thought the door would not open if it was not to be. After a few weeks later he told me I went to soon and now everyone is calling me minister and I don't know what to do. I left that church and started working and this is really affecting my life.
I can tell you from experience God will make you jump because he already equipped you nothing is wrong with that pastor something is wrong with you lol you have fear just pray and move forward
Ive seen the pastor make the people feel like God was going to punish us for saying something. Its so scary.
My parents are attending a church where he said he was the law. The law=the word of God, the word of God was God too. Basically the pastor called himself God and told the people to obey him. I told my parents to leave that church immediately.
@@appletherapyI listened to a pastor on television that told his congregation that to disobey him is to disobey God. He discourages getting an education and implies that the only book you should read is the Bible. If someone misses church, they are slaughtered from the pulpit. It's so sad to watch the look of terror on the faces and body language of the congregation.
@@linkie9512 he's what God calls a wolf in sheep's clothing.....hes been exposed since Jesus was running around...nothing new under the sun. Its sad really.
Amen. I now a lot of believers with this same karakter. Bless you
God bless you
Started going to a church w elders. My favorite ended up leaving n the other 2 were sooo boring n one met up w me to tell me the drama prior to us coming. Not cool and then started PUSHING us to sign a covenant. Well I did not go anymore. Tried to get on my kids school board. 2 of the members are pastor n elder of churches here and I did not like either one’s teaching because the pastor said he chose this town because of the amount of poor people. Why!? Everyone needs God! For control!!!
You've articulated it so well... Awful an experience.. God give you more power!
what a blessing in this teaching i have been there.
I went through it for 7 months i got away from excatly a month ago.
I was tossed out when I can't carry out what they expected of me. Made me renounce Jesus and never returned the loan they asked me. Now I heard church has broken down. Members left and the couple who organized the church divorced and were actually sued by new members who were also duped. I was so new as a Christian and blame myself for years and I was also puzzled about the loan . If I should demand a payment or I'm not supposed to asked for it?
You should seek the counsel of an attorney to get your money back.
lolllll Love your God honest truth Jennifer.
thanks.
They throw rocks and hide their hands.
so true
WOW!! 😲😲😲
Had a dream of a big alligator and small one alligators in dreams represent a or more persons in leadership launched a verbal attack against u I knew it was Pasters wife and daughter after I went no contact with narcissistic toxic sis Pasters wife month later confronted me in store bout sis if I talk with her when my response was no she responded with shame on u it only concerned my dream and that they gossip
Wow I too dreamed of an alligator hiding in water and I was about to go in the water but my 9 year old daughter said mom don't go...I said what ?? She said don't go it's an crocodile then I looked and soon enough I saw it rise up out of hiding in the water. Thank you I never knew what this meant
Try using a lapel mic, or make a plan, there are people who will immedietly turn this vdo off (like me) coz we just can't tolerate bad, squawky audio. The closer to your mouth the mic is the better, also, avoid rooms like the one you're in, they're not acoustic friendly.
About pastors? (I won't even write pastor with capital letters, that's how appalled at them I am), anytime a pastor says you must call him pastor so and so, refuse. I will never again join another church, because they're full of toxic leadership, and people. Been through 4 and they were all up the pole.
Done.
Never again.
The main problem is ZERO Fear of God - why? Because they refuse to preach on Hell or any of the doom and gloom in the bible, just the same boring bible stories we've heard since we were in grade 1.
Coffee bar social clubs, with a free (sic) rock concert.
NEVER AGAIN.
amen
It’s all about giving smh
Lui e Bravissimo il Pastore Benny Hinn sono altri che si sono divertiti con me con i loro Giochetti
you just described my church
Many of the churches are hypocritical and power hungry😢
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Your description sounds like classic narcissism...
Majority of Pastors in Kenya are extremely wicked greedy materialistic etc I'm extremely sorry 😐😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔 that's the bitter truth by Steve Irungu Jermaine
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Is it really Christian or Narcissists? Why give into a scam? Shouldn't church be like the bible? Acts, Corinthians?
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apostle Michael Petro said that as an Apostle, he has the power to send people to hell !!!!! Also we are going to BEG Petro to let us in heaven!!!! Only Jesus Christ has the power to allow people into heaven and not an ordinary man!
ok i told my pastor i wanted to wear a head wrap or covering and she looked straight at me and said , You are not African! and i replied thank you for that slap in the face, no, im not, but I am a child of God being obedient to his Word 1Cor11-16. and yes, if i dont tithe she doesn't pray for me. Tells me not to eat pork to eat only chicken and turkey. And God tells her everything, where everything is, and where to go. And she goes to the throne room to pray and I need to go there too.
You don't need permission from anyone if you want to wear a head wrap. That was your first mistake. Why did you feel the need to ask? You need to ask the Lord and let Holy Spirit dictate things in your life, not man.
Sentiti Tranquilla che in Italia così fanno tutti
Are you a pastor?
Church hurt is an chance to show the love of Christ! To be the examples that they need to see!
Non capisco tanto
Da lì sono Arrivate le mie Delusione
Yeah Emotional Manipulation!
Sentiti Tranquilla tu
Non so con i Suoi Video presentare Mele con un Centesimo di mettere in mezzo la mela che non so cosa faceva
Preparazione di due Secchi che io dovevo diventare Ricco
Mettiti i Tappi alle Orecchie
INASMUCH ALL ABUSE AGAINST ANY SOUL
INASMUCH ABUSES FATHER JESUS
FATHER JESUS WARNS ALL AS WE DID SIN AGAINST ANY CREATED SOUL ANY AGE OR COLOR OR RACE WE HAVE SINNED AGAINST HIM
REPENT&BE BAPTIZED ALL OF YOU IN LORD JESUS CHRIST NAME
FOR REMISSION OF SINS & YOU WILL RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST!!!!!
ACTS 2 38 OF THE APOSTLES!!
ACCEPT HIM (LORD JESUS ) AS YOUR LORD & SAVIOUR WHOM IS HIS HOLY WRIT AND YOU MUST ACCEPT HIS HOLY PLAN OF SALVATION THAT HE IS OUR FATHER JESUS IS GOD ALONE AMEN!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE CHECK OUT BROTHER JEFF ARNOLD PREACHING ZEAL "ETERNAL SALVATION - ALWAYS SAVED LIES"
FOR ACCORDANCE MR!BIBLE MAN OF ACTS 2 38! AND E V E N MORE!!!!!!!
HEY...YE ARE APPRECIATED HOLILY LOVINGLY ZEALOUSLY FOR YOUR CONTINUED HOPEFUL ZEAL!!
BY ALL FEAR GOD LOVING SOULS!!
Gli italiani così sono fanno tutti i fatti di altri
Ho avuto troppo delusione dai suoi colleghi di lavoro
Manda tutti a quel paese
Sometimes I just don't want to be diplomatic, and in fact would have been more than willing to run to the street corners about these characters.
The problem is their followers, most well meaning newbies lining up to do the dirty work.
The problem originates with taking the lowest ranking of the 5 five fold ministry and conflating them as being all the others ... like that isn't somehow doomed to failure.
Pastor is a fake word when they are fake Apostles and Prophets ... drumming the real ones out before ever setting up shop.
A pastor is mostly an unqualified fake evangelist, prophet and apostle.
And they get away with blue murder ... and have done so ever since the fake evangelicals elevated the ranking above its station.
When pastors have sacrificed so many others to build personal empire ... can that person repent ?
Can they possibly expect themselves to see their part in the mess ?
The problem I have is I've scapegoated them for what their churches employed them to do.
That's my fault ... getting distracted by their antics.
Are there any good ones, only the prophetic pastor could have possibly survived with their integrity in tact.
Transparency not freely offered says everything.
HBC.
Jennifer LeClaire.....are you DEFLECTING ??? take a look in the mirror honey
....@verse the world.
I can tell you are a spiritual abuser (bully). I know it when I see it, because I went through it for years with people like yourself.
I would not use the name of Jesus as a profile name to make this type of comments...
@@irenec6558 yup
@@nchristIhvbeing You called it buddy.
The FIRST sign is that your church has a woman as leader or pastor.... when the bible clearly forbids it. When that happens, you know you are in a social club, not a biblical church. Don't like that? Take it up with God!
@@JessicaGuilbeau prophetess Is the only office a woman can have but no where in scripture does it say they can preach or pastor or evangelize,they are to remain silent in the church read your bible..
Women can be pastors ...do an exegesis on the entire bible...you forget Huldah ...who sat in the mishnah ...junia the apostle, Devorah
@@christinajarriel3423 That is a lie from hell. You obviously do NOT understand sound biblical exegesis. Instead you are practicing eisegesis.
Huldah was an OT prophetess, NOT a priest nor a NT Pastor. Junia was not an apostle, but only among them.
Your ignorance is typical of the false teachers who twist God's Word to their eventual ruin.
REPENT!
@@JessicaGuilbeau Then you disagree with God. And you are a LIAR who lies about God. REPENT!
Jenn would you message me I need some insight