0:00 The World Runs on Cardboard 1:36 The Science Behind the Material 3:40 How Cardboard is Engineered 5:07 Forests as Natural Resources 6:29 Supply Chain of Raw Materials to Finished Goods 8:05 How Cardboard is Sold 9:28 Tree to Box Vertical Integration 11:50 The Slow King 14:32 The Secrets of Recycling 15:50 Shaping Brazil & Russia 18:02 The Nimble Heir 20:02 Supply Chain & Product Differentiation
I work at Pratt Industries in Northwest Indiana by Chicago and this video was constructed PERFECTLY. From how a corrugated sheet is made into all the background nuances like sales and accounting and down to the recycling process was amazing to say the least 10/10.
I also happen to work at Pratt Industries in Northwest Indiana by Chicago , I know john I know everybody and I also agree that the recycling process was amazing to say the least 10/10.
Hey there! I work for Visy, which is owned by Pratt in Australia/New Zealand. I'm a corrugator operator. Also used to work for one of Oji's factories in New Zealand.
@Roy Pearse I worked on the converting side of our plant. I was a machine operator for a rotary die cutter, but I no longer work at Pratt left a couple of months ago:/
I found this to be fascinating. I'm a truck driver, and back when I was "over the road", I frequently delivered to International Paper, WestRock, Kimberly-Clark, Georgia-Pacific, etc. I have opinions on the various companies based on their efficiency of shipping/receiving, but it's cool to learn more about the inner workings of the companies.
Don’t forget the tapes and adhesives used to close the boxes! You hardly notice them, but the science behind their formulation and application is fascinating.
large warehouses, stores and packaging converters may be able to sell their used cardboard back to the recyclers as it is just that valuable. B2B paper tends to be cleaner and therefore slightly more valuable than post consumer paper. I work in this industry and I have to say this was really well done. I will be passing this along
Would definitely be interesting. Cardboard is covered here. Plastics I don’t think is a good one. But other ones would be good. I’d rather see things like the cardboard video though than seeing something about Luxotica owning all the eyewear retail companies or whatever. That’s been done multiple times elsewhere and isn’t super interesting. Could Do a story on Carlyle group or other big PE that don’t do heavy startup stuff but more buy business and such.
given how invested everyone is in sourcing virgin wood pulp, how possible is disruption by replacing it with a cheaper or faster-growing source of virgin fiber? (grasses, bamboo, etc)
not much. In a way they are not that much cheaper. Sure they grow faster. however harvesting and processing them form the raw material to ready to use fiber. Takes a lot more work. like for the wood of 1 tree trunk you might need up to 50 bamboo shoots. the shipping of said bamboo will require more overall transportation.
@@sirBrouwer right also the bamboo have hollow inside, what matter is fiber density/volume for paper/board industry unless your bamboo is planted around the plant it was not economical
The trees used for pulp production grow pretty quickly. You plant new ones every year so you have a continual supply. People sometimes think we are cutting down redwoods for newspaper which is definitely not the case. If you’re interested checkout fungi packaging. It will probably make sense so long as pests don’t find it attractive to eat.
Man these videos are so freaking good. I wouldn’t mind if you went into even a little more depth. If you felt like you were trimming some aspects, you could go longer/deeper. The only other thing I would ask for is more content if possible, without losing quality! Great stuff!
I’m getting a degree in marketing/business right now and this video was very insightful! It was cool to see the step by step processes and how they work. Thank you for the great content!
I love that this is objective and information-first but there's an optimism in how this is presented, showing a mature but still evolving industry that balances economic strategy with sustainability in a reasonable way. I didn't know so many people were as ready as I am to stop with the single-use plastic, although there will be at least a few industries where that probably won't happen, as plastic has some unique applications. Great video!
This is a fantastic channel. I watched a couple videos so far. They are packed with good solid facts & figures, and provide great insights to subjects I wouldn’t have been able to learn independently so easily. The videos are really well made in length, well edited and the narration is very nice. The producer keeps things very interesting. Great job.
Always a treat watching your videos. Very succinct and without much fluff, while being extremely informative with a delivery tone and speed that is just right. Hope to see more of your videos.
The companies that make the kraft paper (Fiber board) are numerous. The largest here in Florida is Container Corp. which owns huge swaths of land in Florida & Georgia to grow the Southern Pine trees used for paper. The other companies include Rayoneer, Jefferson Smurfitt, Seminole Kraft (Formerly St. Regis) and Hercules. These are just the ones I know of. Jacksonville used to be known for "The stink" from the raw paper plants located here: St. Regis, Alton Box, Container Corp. and the Union Camp turpentine (Made from the pine tree bark) plant which was once used for sewage treatment. The smell was from the caustics (Alkaline bases) used to break down the wood chips into wood fiber pulp. St. Regis (Now Seminole Kraft) switched to recycling and still operates today. The turpentine plant is still operation but seems to have made changes to reduce the smell.
I keep all my cardboard and use it to mulch my garden or keep it flat and plant raised beds on it. If I knew how to do biz I’d start Fake Timothy’s Cardboard Mulch Biz. In my experience it’s been a very effective weed and grass suppressant. I’m sure people would buy it.
Haven't watched this yet but looking forward to it. I remember hearing when I was a kid that one if US largest exports was the paper used to make the cardboard boxes that products they import can go into lol
I am a fan of recycling cardboard as a construction material. It really is far more sturdy than most people think. Not only is it great for general crafts, it makes great lightweight shelves, drawers, end tables, and even other furniture. As someone who has arthritic and elderly family members, having lightweight items around the house makes it easier for them to move them around if they need. Cardboard with a greater percentage of recycled pulp tends to have a grayer color, and is a bit weaker, but nothing a few coats of PVA glue and layers of Kraft paper or paperboard can't fix! The real jackpot is when I find a nice bit of honeycomb cardboard from a TV box, that stuff is so strong. Ikea even uses a form of it in some of their cheaper desks.
My dad worked for Westrock for pretty much his whole life, we knew it as Westvaco for years before the merger with RockTenn. The mill in our city has made the air and water around us toxic but if it didn't provide so many jobs, our small mountain community would literally be a ghost town.
Mainly a reminder of how proud I am of the US protecting our forests so vigorously. Also big thank you to cardboard companies for helping in the fight against microplastics. I have a feeling some plastics will come out soon as the next led paint, asbestos, ect.
@@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120 boxes i order tile and stuff in are a lot thicker and more heavy duty , sometimes have stables. Worse quality stuff gets shipped in worse quality cardboard
@@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120 it depends how crappy the product is , there’s heavy duty boxes like i described. There’s normal boxes which are like what Amazon used. But there are certainly much worse quality boxes you get sometimes from things online, nothing i use regularly tho.
Man this has convinced me that when in the Simpsons Bart’s class goes to the box factory it was actually a really cool field trip that the kids didn’t appreciate.
I was in Corrugated for 4 years as a Packaging Graphic Designer in print quality control. I worked closely with the Structural Designer of various boxes we made. I’d like to push back on the source of strength of the box being “triangular.” As I understand it the strength of the box comes from the flutes, or ARCH-like shape that is formed by heating up the paper and running it through Combining rolls. The associate images when learning the process were colonnades or examples of Roman aqueducts. Not all walls of the box are made equally as flutes run in one direction. The walls that have vertical running flutes are the strongest load bearing sides.
Great job sir. There are currently more trees in the United States than there were in 1900. The old growth forests and hard woods which take hundreds of years to grow are not used in paper production. The fibers are shorter - the quick growing trees have longer fibers - but they should be using hemp, it takes less energy to process, has long fibers, and most often does not require any brightening (Peroxide Bleaching currently used for wood pulp) Westrock - Westvaco & RockTenn - both very old companies which were themselves combinations of other companies, the last 40 years of the paper industry have seen a HUGE consolidation from many private family owned companies to publically held massive companies. Gulf States was acquired from the founding family by Rock Tenn, which was then acquired by Westvaco. Mead Containerboard was acquired by Westvaco a decade prior. Gilman Paper was sold by the family , Federal Paperboard was sold to International Paper by the founding family. Union Camp & James River Corp became part of Georgia Pacific which was taken private by the Koch's. Champion Pulp and Paper was sold to management and they divested part of the operations. I missed more than I mentioned... My grandfather designed built and then acquired mills for Caraustar Industries, his first job was rebuilding the boilers for the only mill in the late 1940's. they owned Star Paper Tubes and Paragon Plastics and were acquired by Grief Brothers Box in the past 15 years. My father and I converted warehoused processed bleached paperboard seconds /joblots for 25 years, (been retired near 15 years) we bought sold machinery and paper to India, Phillipines, China, Korea, Vietnam, Estonia, South Africa, Central and South America, Canada and the entire United States mainland. I sold a few hundred tons a week to China. 600 tons a month of gypsum wallboard facing into Russia through Estonia.
huh never knew about international paper, and I didn't know westrock was so big. The only place i've seen the westrock logos was at my old job since they supplied the boxes we used to pack our merchandise.
Great video!! It seems like it‘s still very much unknown that not all cardboard can be recycled after use. Cardboard that got in touch with food and oils actually harm the recycling machines and therefore belong into the general waste, which means it‘ll be burned or put on landfill. So it‘s really not as sustainable as one might think. I‘ve especially focused on this issue with pizza boxes and have therefore created a reusable option (PIZZycle). It‘s actually much more sustainable, even though its made from plastic!!! Food for thought :)
such boxes can be fed to the Termites. Yes, termites munch on these Cardboard boxes, Wood, Paper and Clothes(cotton, linen, natural/artificial fibres, etc)., or could be used for Growing Moulds/Mycelium (specifically why not grow Edible Mushrooms👀).
In Australia, Visy is one of the major players in the cardboard box industry. In 2007, it was fined $40million AUD for plotting to start a cardboard cartel with its competitors. Who would have thought this could happen to something as mundane as cardboard!
"In spite of the antiquated rail network of the US..." I believe it's generally agreed that the US has the best rail network in the world for industrial purposes. Where the US is seen as lacking is its passenger rail network, which would not be relevant here.
I immediately checked the comments when I heard that off comment. Glad I wasn't the only one, the US freight rail network is by far the best in the world
I have a bone to pick with what you say at 6:08. It is not a matter of "despite the antiquated rail network of the US". Rail freight in the US is cheaper and more reliable than just about anywhere else in the world. It is only "antiquated" if you are comparing it to HSR like the LGV--which are designed to move relatively few people over relatively short distances in a relatively small amount of time, rather than move many thousands of tons of cargo over many thousands of miles. They are different systems, with different purposes and different economic consideration. I know it's trendy to dunk on the US for the lack of intercity passenger rail, but it comes off as uninformed when you apply the same stereotypes to rail freight.
Dam this guy will be the next big TH-camr with the quality he’s shipping too us ! Q:Can you do a video on Costco as I was always curious how they are surviving with Amazon and Walmart.
Your videos are exceptional, Thank you so much! Would you be willing to do a video on the phone industry ? Mainly comparing the two big players Apple and Samsung and their respective strategies, etc?
Toilet paper and paper towels are forms of “tissue” paper; corrugated cardboard, and single layer box material are laminated from container board and liner board, which is derived from layering “craft paper”
Logger here and card board is great. We are doing a lot of thinning units and a lot of the little trees that cause over crowding and massive forest fires. Can’t make Boards out of these trees so the little trees and dead trees are turned into chips which then get turned into cardboard. Great for our forest. If there isn’t any market for these trees then you can’t cut these over crowded forest that cause massive fires.
I had a cousin who worked at Crown Zellerbach in Tampa for over 30 yes, he was in charge of making the glue to manufacture boxes I wa able to go to the plant several times over the years, very noisy, but cool to see how boxes are manufactured.
Truly empires hidden in plain sight: comparable in revenues all the US professional sports leagues combined, yet never given a second thought by the typical consumer.
in 1995 my two Vancouver, BC roommates were young bucks on the way up in the pulp mill world. The three mills ALL went zero pollution in BC ; Fletcher--Challenge NZ, Mac. Bloedel Canada, and Crown-Zellerbach USA. And the priced of Number 78's (liquor box size for apts) went from 78. per 100 to 325. per 100. Consumer picks up the bill All the @off market mills in Canada closed (Dryden, Fort Frances, Thunder Bay( where all my country cousins worked (just in time to retire) and THAT work went...........to China.
I live in a little hamlet that transforms virgin trees into lumber & container board (at one time it produced the most lumber for housing in the world!). The latter puts out an unbelievably awful smell (that fortunately doesn't go over my house very often, but still enough that I have to tape my windows to keep out the smell), but I put up with it because the housing prices are super rock-bottom.
Antiquated rail network for shipping forest products? In what regard is the rail network antiquated? Maybe as a young MBA student, you think that we should teleport heavy bulky products.
I don't understand how you do research this good, and is able to make it publicly available to people out TH-cam This is professional report level of work. How do you do it!? Curious how the "political connections" part makes it into these businesses operations. Are they in the form of leadership and the access they get, or something else?
You do it by putting in effort and asking why. Another term is called drilling down. At the same time not losing perspective of the big picture. The guy is obviously fairly intelligent at a baseline including critical thinking skills which are one of the keys to intelligence.
@@MegaJuniorJones That's very vague (do I detect some sarcasm?). I'm talking about which specific sources. Like for big picture ideas, does he search on The Economist, or another publication? For industry papers, what does he use, like Annual Reports or Market Research Papers? This stuff is hard to locate unless it's your job. There are a lot of sources out there, but it's not clear which types are best for whatever.
I used to think like he stating @5:30 The reality is the Tree farms grow the trees for roughly 20 years then harvest them. So each farm is roughly 20 sections timed that so each year a section is harvested, maintaining an income for the farmer, Trees for the environment and plenty of lumber and paper products for you and me. As a child, you probably visited a Christmas Tree Farm to buy a tree. or maybe you got your tree from a retailer that buys them from a farm year after year as the crop is rotated. This is not a new process. It been this way for a long time. In fact, when building tires for rubbers, the tire companies bought up South American rubber plantations and again rotated the crop to keep mature trees ready for the harvest, roughly 100 years ago.
This is the first video I’ve ever seen from you, awesome video! Please check your pop filter though, especially around 6:20 you can hear a lot of the pops from plosives in your speech. Still super interesting though!
Adding on to your discussion of Forests as Natural Resources, even in more-regulated countries like Canada, logging and deforestation aren't always replaced one tree cut/one tree planted. Clear-cutting still occurs, and biodiversity/carbon emission concerns still remain. (Though the concerns of petroleum-based alternatives are definitely still overwhelming.)
Logger here. Actually wood used for pulp is waste wood from the process. In western us and Canada at least. The wood was just burned in giant slash piles with other waste. Also on thining jobs the smaller trees that cause over crowding can’t be used for boards so pulp is perfect. These smaller trees cause massive forest fires. It’s a good thing and good for the forests
If u would like more information on forestry practices more then welcome to hit me up on how stuff is done. The forestry industry gets a bad rep from past practices but loggers care about the forest more then anyone against logging. Shoot we choose to work in it 😂
@@tpbforlife3323 Heya! Thanks for dropping this comment, and sorry for the late response. I actually started taking a course at our forestry department (UBC) to get a better idea of how forestry is conducted here in BC/PNW. Selective thinning within natural forests I do see many benefits in, as well as using wood waste as pulp instead of burning on-site. On the production side, two of the things I'm still trying to wrap my head around is the clear cutting of virgin boreal for toilet paper (wondering whether recycled paper could make up a larger share of the pulp used) and clear cutting of old growth for wood pellet fuels (e.g. Drax). I recognize these aren't necessarily the goals of the majority of foresters, but do these practices make sense from the forestry perspective? If not, are there steps that other folks working in forestry/timber product management are looking to take to change that?
I assume that most cardboard is not recycled cardboard, unless it specifically says so, but I do notice some cardboard which I can tell is made from recycled cardboard just by looking at it. Some fast food burger cartons, and the occasional liquor carton brand, and so forth. It has that identifiable look. I used to consider pizza boxes made of recycled cardboard as being remedial creative disposal, but it is high consumer turnover and so is actually sound recycling.
well this is funny. i am watching the Bart gets famous Simpson's episode atm lol. I'm sure Bart would find this video interesting and now i know the box factory manager is way richer than Krusty 🤣
Great video there, it's always interesting and informative to watch your videos. I'm a data analyst looking to analyze businesses and industries data like you do. Where do you get these data? Their financial data, production data and supply chain data.
I love your channel, you do great work. If I may I would like to very humbly point out that sometimes the video on screen doesn't match whats being said. Again I absolutely love your channel
It’s because the video software being used kind of just reads the text and tries it’s best to pull up whatever stock footage it has in its database. It’s how a lot of TH-cam videos are made. It just gives basic pictures or clips to look at. I doubt he is personally finding and putting in clips on his own.
0:00 The World Runs on Cardboard
1:36 The Science Behind the Material
3:40 How Cardboard is Engineered
5:07 Forests as Natural Resources
6:29 Supply Chain of Raw Materials to Finished Goods
8:05 How Cardboard is Sold
9:28 Tree to Box Vertical Integration
11:50 The Slow King
14:32 The Secrets of Recycling
15:50 Shaping Brazil & Russia
18:02 The Nimble Heir
20:02 Supply Chain & Product Differentiation
Great video !
do you need help researching for these videos? I have an MBA/Market Research Background looking for a PT gig.
@@yokomesome the channel can be called Modern MBAs
@@yokomesome mail him directly man
My World doesn't "run on cardboard". Earthlings need clean air and water, first.
This channel is arguably one of the most valuable gems on YT.
indeed
if only they filter their sponsors
@@yeetboi268which bad ones have they had?
40 years in this industry and this video was spot on! Great job!
hey id like to contact you about paper business, u got any socials?
I work at Pratt Industries in Northwest Indiana by Chicago and this video was constructed PERFECTLY. From how a corrugated sheet is made into all the background nuances like sales and accounting and down to the recycling process was amazing to say the least 10/10.
I also happen to work at Pratt Industries in Northwest Indiana by Chicago , I know john I know everybody and I also agree that the recycling process was amazing to say the least 10/10.
Hey there! I work for Visy, which is owned by Pratt in Australia/New Zealand. I'm a corrugator operator. Also used to work for one of Oji's factories in New Zealand.
@Roy Pearse I worked on the converting side of our plant. I was a machine operator for a rotary die cutter, but I no longer work at Pratt left a couple of months ago:/
I found this to be fascinating. I'm a truck driver, and back when I was "over the road", I frequently delivered to International Paper, WestRock, Kimberly-Clark, Georgia-Pacific, etc. I have opinions on the various companies based on their efficiency of shipping/receiving, but it's cool to learn more about the inner workings of the companies.
Who was the best and who was the worst?
Yeah, and why? What kind deliveries did you make?
Dunder Mifflin is also one of the paper industry giants. and their Scranton branch is exceptionally well managed under one Mr. Michael Scott.
❤😂
😆😆😆 we need a modern mba video about dunder mufflin 😆
@@csanton3946 One for April Fool's
Not as good as Wernham Hogg!
and QA department was handle by Creed...
Don’t forget the tapes and adhesives used to close the boxes! You hardly notice them, but the science behind their formulation and application is fascinating.
3M GANG🤘
large warehouses, stores and packaging converters may be able to sell their used cardboard back to the recyclers as it is just that valuable. B2B paper tends to be cleaner and therefore slightly more valuable than post consumer paper.
I work in this industry and I have to say this was really well done. I will be passing this along
Any other insights not touched on in the video?
@@MegaJuniorJones Automation in this field would be interesting.
Walmart and Sams Club make money from the cardboard / boxboard they receive their products in.
It always blows me away at the amount of research that must have went into this. Interesting topic too
Make a video how Western Union pumps billions of untaxed employee money into South America.
blows 😂😂
I always click instantly when you post - your insights and the amount of value that I get from these videos... I can't believe this is even free!!
I agree, I didn't even want to watch this video until I saw it was made by Modern MBA!
@@codycast No
Best business analysis on youtube by a long mile!! Well documented, presented and entertaining
Make a video how Western Union pumps billions of untaxed employee money into South America.
the fact that this guy can make a youtube video about cardboard boxes interesting is ASTONISHING.
Shipping containers is also very interesting.
Wow I feel like Martin and Principal Skinner at The Box Factory.
Excellent content and presentation as always
Please create a series of business empires hidden in plain sight
Would definitely be interesting. Cardboard is covered here. Plastics I don’t think is a good one. But other ones would be good. I’d rather see things like the cardboard video though than seeing something about Luxotica owning all the eyewear retail companies or whatever. That’s been done multiple times elsewhere and isn’t super interesting.
Could Do a story on Carlyle group or other big PE that don’t do heavy startup stuff but more buy business and such.
given how invested everyone is in sourcing virgin wood pulp, how possible is disruption by replacing it with a cheaper or faster-growing source of virgin fiber? (grasses, bamboo, etc)
not much. In a way they are not that much cheaper. Sure they grow faster. however
harvesting and processing them form the raw material to ready to use fiber. Takes a lot more work.
like for the wood of 1 tree trunk you might need up to 50 bamboo shoots.
the shipping of said bamboo will require more overall transportation.
You are slow, aren’t you?
@@sirBrouwer right also the bamboo have hollow inside, what matter is fiber density/volume for paper/board industry unless your bamboo is planted around the plant it was not economical
The trees used for pulp production grow pretty quickly. You plant new ones every year so you have a continual supply. People sometimes think we are cutting down redwoods for newspaper which is definitely not the case.
If you’re interested checkout fungi packaging. It will probably make sense so long as pests don’t find it attractive to eat.
I have read hemp has a chance.
Man these videos are so freaking good. I wouldn’t mind if you went into even a little more depth. If you felt like you were trimming some aspects, you could go longer/deeper.
The only other thing I would ask for is more content if possible, without losing quality!
Great stuff!
you want this contentt creator to go deeper and longer for uou
I worked 14 years as an electrician/mechanic in a corrugated box plant, and let me tell you, I haven't a single regret about being retired today
Recent mba grad and your videos are more informative and entertaining than any class I took. Keep it up!
To be honest most business school professors are pretty garbage. They’re professors for a reason. Think about it.
I’m getting a degree in marketing/business right now and this video was very insightful! It was cool to see the step by step processes and how they work. Thank you for the great content!
this is my new favorite channel, so much quality info for free, its insane!
Thanks for the great video.
Westrock has 9B in debt (market cap is 11B) and issued a ton of shares in 2016. That's how they're able to grow so quickly
I love that this is objective and information-first but there's an optimism in how this is presented, showing a mature but still evolving industry that balances economic strategy with sustainability in a reasonable way. I didn't know so many people were as ready as I am to stop with the single-use plastic, although there will be at least a few industries where that probably won't happen, as plastic has some unique applications. Great video!
This is a fantastic channel. I watched a couple videos so far. They are packed with good solid facts & figures, and provide great insights to subjects I wouldn’t have been able to learn independently so easily. The videos are really well made in length, well edited and the narration is very nice. The producer keeps things very interesting. Great job.
Always a treat watching your videos. Very succinct and without much fluff, while being extremely informative with a delivery tone and speed that is just right.
Hope to see more of your videos.
Make a video how Western Union pumps billions of untaxed employee money into South America.
The companies that make the kraft paper (Fiber board) are numerous. The largest here in Florida is Container Corp. which owns huge swaths of land in Florida & Georgia to grow the Southern Pine trees used for paper. The other companies include Rayoneer, Jefferson Smurfitt, Seminole Kraft (Formerly St. Regis) and Hercules. These are just the ones I know of.
Jacksonville used to be known for "The stink" from the raw paper plants located here: St. Regis, Alton Box, Container Corp. and the Union Camp turpentine (Made from the pine tree bark) plant which was once used for sewage treatment. The smell was from the caustics (Alkaline bases) used to break down the wood chips into wood fiber pulp. St. Regis (Now Seminole Kraft) switched to recycling and still operates today. The turpentine plant is still operation but seems to have made changes to reduce the smell.
I keep all my cardboard and use it to mulch my garden or keep it flat and plant raised beds on it. If I knew how to do biz I’d start Fake Timothy’s Cardboard Mulch Biz. In my experience it’s been a very effective weed and grass suppressant. I’m sure people would buy it.
They wouldn’t because it’s essentially free and has little demand. You can go to recycle depot and just grab some out of the bin if you need it.
Your videos are so good I just spent 23 mins watching a video about cardboard boxes
you should do something with your life kid
I LOVE CARDBOARD!!!! A GREAT MATERIAL FOR ANYTHING!!!! CHEAP, STRONG AND EASY TO GET!!!! ALSO GREAT FOR ARTS AND CRAFTS.
Haven't watched this yet but looking forward to it. I remember hearing when I was a kid that one if US largest exports was the paper used to make the cardboard boxes that products they import can go into lol
how does this video only have 65 comments the quality you put out is amazing. keep up the amazing videos bro
I am a fan of recycling cardboard as a construction material. It really is far more sturdy than most people think. Not only is it great for general crafts, it makes great lightweight shelves, drawers, end tables, and even other furniture. As someone who has arthritic and elderly family members, having lightweight items around the house makes it easier for them to move them around if they need.
Cardboard with a greater percentage of recycled pulp tends to have a grayer color, and is a bit weaker, but nothing a few coats of PVA glue and layers of Kraft paper or paperboard can't fix! The real jackpot is when I find a nice bit of honeycomb cardboard from a TV box, that stuff is so strong. Ikea even uses a form of it in some of their cheaper desks.
My dad worked for Westrock for pretty much his whole life, we knew it as Westvaco for years before the merger with RockTenn. The mill in our city has made the air and water around us toxic but if it didn't provide so many jobs, our small mountain community would literally be a ghost town.
do you have a team of people is is it just one person? because the quality is amazing
Just me! Thank you very much for your kind words and continued support.
Mainly a reminder of how proud I am of the US protecting our forests so vigorously. Also big thank you to cardboard companies for helping in the fight against microplastics. I have a feeling some plastics will come out soon as the next led paint, asbestos, ect.
I haven’t thrown a box away in years 🤣 i stash up every single one for my eBay store and I’ve noticed a lot of differences in boxes over the years lol
Are you a hoarder?
what kind of differences?
@@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120 boxes i order tile and stuff in are a lot thicker and more heavy duty , sometimes have stables. Worse quality stuff gets shipped in worse quality cardboard
@@WSFM_Rex how much worse?
@@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120 it depends how crappy the product is , there’s heavy duty boxes like i described. There’s normal boxes which are like what Amazon used. But there are certainly much worse quality boxes you get sometimes from things online, nothing i use regularly tho.
Man this has convinced me that when in the Simpsons Bart’s class goes to the box factory it was actually a really cool field trip that the kids didn’t appreciate.
Thank God for the man who invented permission slips!
I was in Corrugated for 4 years as a Packaging Graphic Designer in print quality control. I worked closely with the Structural Designer of various boxes we made. I’d like to push back on the source of strength of the box being “triangular.” As I understand it the strength of the box comes from the flutes, or ARCH-like shape that is formed by heating up the paper and running it through Combining rolls. The associate images when learning the process were colonnades or examples of Roman aqueducts. Not all walls of the box are made equally as flutes run in one direction. The walls that have vertical running flutes are the strongest load bearing sides.
Such an underrated channel. Loving the content!
This channel is incredibly well done.
Your videos are always so interesting and introduces me to the business side of a lot of things I never really thought about. Keep up the good work!
Make a video how Western Union pumps billions of untaxed employee money into South America.
Great job sir.
There are currently more trees in the United States than there were in 1900. The old growth forests and hard woods which take hundreds of years to grow are not used in paper production. The fibers are shorter - the quick growing trees have longer fibers - but they should be using hemp, it takes less energy to process, has long fibers, and most often does not require any brightening (Peroxide Bleaching currently used for wood pulp)
Westrock - Westvaco & RockTenn - both very old companies which were themselves combinations of other companies, the last 40 years of the paper industry have seen a HUGE consolidation from many private family owned companies to publically held massive companies. Gulf States was acquired from the founding family by Rock Tenn, which was then acquired by Westvaco. Mead Containerboard was acquired by Westvaco a decade prior. Gilman Paper was sold by the family , Federal Paperboard was sold to International Paper by the founding family. Union Camp & James River Corp became part of Georgia Pacific which was taken private by the Koch's. Champion Pulp and Paper was sold to management and they divested part of the operations.
I missed more than I mentioned...
My grandfather designed built and then acquired mills for Caraustar Industries, his first job was rebuilding the boilers for the only mill in the late 1940's. they owned Star Paper Tubes and Paragon Plastics and were acquired by Grief Brothers Box in the past 15 years. My father and I converted warehoused processed bleached paperboard seconds /joblots for 25 years, (been retired near 15 years) we bought sold machinery and paper to India, Phillipines, China, Korea, Vietnam, Estonia, South Africa, Central and South America, Canada and the entire United States mainland. I sold a few hundred tons a week to China. 600 tons a month of gypsum wallboard facing into Russia through Estonia.
That was a great summary and analysis of a usually overlooked industry.
Never thought going to the cardboard factory might be interesting. Something the Simpsons got wrong.
I've never seen a more thrilling documentary about companies that produce... cardboard,
huh never knew about international paper, and I didn't know westrock was so big. The only place i've seen the westrock logos was at my old job since they supplied the boxes we used to pack our merchandise.
Great video!! It seems like it‘s still very much unknown that not all cardboard can be recycled after use. Cardboard that got in touch with food and oils actually harm the recycling machines and therefore belong into the general waste, which means it‘ll be burned or put on landfill. So it‘s really not as sustainable as one might think. I‘ve especially focused on this issue with pizza boxes and have therefore created a reusable option (PIZZycle). It‘s actually much more sustainable, even though its made from plastic!!! Food for thought :)
genius.
black soldier fly larva
such boxes can be fed to the Termites.
Yes, termites munch on these Cardboard boxes, Wood, Paper and Clothes(cotton, linen, natural/artificial fibres, etc).,
or could be used for Growing Moulds/Mycelium (specifically why not grow Edible Mushrooms👀).
In Australia, Visy is one of the major players in the cardboard box industry. In 2007, it was fined $40million AUD for plotting to start a cardboard cartel with its competitors. Who would have thought this could happen to something as mundane as cardboard!
"In spite of the antiquated rail network of the US..."
I believe it's generally agreed that the US has the best rail network in the world for industrial purposes. Where the US is seen as lacking is its passenger rail network, which would not be relevant here.
I immediately checked the comments when I heard that off comment. Glad I wasn't the only one, the US freight rail network is by far the best in the world
Agreed
Its a shame how many people don't understand this.
Uh oh, someone’s butthurt
Working on my MBA right now and am stoked to have found your channel.
I have a bone to pick with what you say at 6:08. It is not a matter of "despite the antiquated rail network of the US". Rail freight in the US is cheaper and more reliable than just about anywhere else in the world. It is only "antiquated" if you are comparing it to HSR like the LGV--which are designed to move relatively few people over relatively short distances in a relatively small amount of time, rather than move many thousands of tons of cargo over many thousands of miles. They are different systems, with different purposes and different economic consideration.
I know it's trendy to dunk on the US for the lack of intercity passenger rail, but it comes off as uninformed when you apply the same stereotypes to rail freight.
Correct. A minor oversight. Next video: RAIL NETWORKS! Haha
Dam this guy will be the next big TH-camr with the quality he’s shipping too us !
Q:Can you do a video on Costco as I was always curious how they are surviving with Amazon and Walmart.
@@TheDinoKitteh thanks for the info!
Costco usually sells things in bulk that is not competitive to mail and their focus is on gaining the membership fees.
@@johnl.7754 so like the Netflix of retail ?
Costco makes money from its membership not from you buying stuff. Secret success solved.
Surprisingly interesting. and well presented
Your videos are exceptional, Thank you so much! Would you be willing to do a video on the phone industry ? Mainly comparing the two big players Apple and Samsung and their respective strategies, etc?
This is awesome, a refreshing content on TH-cam
Toilet paper and paper towels are forms of “tissue” paper; corrugated cardboard, and single layer box material are laminated from container board and liner board, which is derived from layering “craft paper”
I just started working at WestRock 2 weeks ago. Great place so far!
This channel is fantastic. Such well organized, insightful information about important topics. Well done.
Logger here and card board is great. We are doing a lot of thinning units and a lot of the little trees that cause over crowding and massive forest fires. Can’t make Boards out of these trees so the little trees and dead trees are turned into chips which then get turned into cardboard. Great for our forest. If there isn’t any market for these trees then you can’t cut these over crowded forest that cause massive fires.
GREAT VIDEO AND EDUCATION. THANKS FOR SHARING!!! I LEARNED SO MUCH!!!!
Who would’ve thought I’d be watching a video on the economics of cardboard at 1 AM on a work day
Awesome video. Great information and education throughout.
Very well done and solid video. Thank you for taking time to do this the right way.
I had a cousin who worked at Crown Zellerbach in Tampa for over 30 yes, he was in charge of making the glue to manufacture boxes
I wa able to go to the plant several times over the years, very noisy, but cool to see how boxes are manufactured.
Amazing content all around!
You always make great videos!
Great video, as always! Thank you!
Truly empires hidden in plain sight: comparable in revenues all the US professional sports leagues combined, yet never given a second thought by the typical consumer.
in 1995 my two Vancouver, BC roommates were young bucks on the way up in the pulp mill world. The three mills ALL went zero pollution in BC ; Fletcher--Challenge NZ, Mac. Bloedel Canada, and Crown-Zellerbach USA. And the priced of Number 78's (liquor box size for apts) went from 78. per 100 to 325. per 100. Consumer picks up the bill All the @off market mills in Canada closed (Dryden, Fort Frances, Thunder Bay( where all my country cousins worked (just in time to retire) and THAT work went...........to China.
I live in a little hamlet that transforms virgin trees into lumber & container board (at one time it produced the most lumber for housing in the world!). The latter puts out an unbelievably awful smell (that fortunately doesn't go over my house very often, but still enough that I have to tape my windows to keep out the smell), but I put up with it because the housing prices are super rock-bottom.
Trees??! Wow , I’d never have guessed that where it came from, I always thought it was dried out octopus brain
lol i google about pizza box printing and next day this is on my algorithm. gotta love it
Antiquated rail network for shipping forest products? In what regard is the rail network antiquated? Maybe as a young MBA student, you think that we should teleport heavy bulky products.
Recent Ohio train accident.
I don't understand how you do research this good, and is able to make it publicly available to people out TH-cam
This is professional report level of work. How do you do it!?
Curious how the "political connections" part makes it into these businesses operations. Are they in the form of leadership and the access they get, or something else?
You do it by putting in effort and asking why. Another term is called drilling down. At the same time not losing perspective of the big picture. The guy is obviously fairly intelligent at a baseline including critical thinking skills which are one of the keys to intelligence.
@@MegaJuniorJones That's very vague (do I detect some sarcasm?).
I'm talking about which specific sources. Like for big picture ideas, does he search on The Economist, or another publication? For industry papers, what does he use, like Annual Reports or Market Research Papers? This stuff is hard to locate unless it's your job.
There are a lot of sources out there, but it's not clear which types are best for whatever.
I used to think like he stating @5:30
The reality is the Tree farms grow the trees for roughly 20 years then harvest them. So each farm is roughly 20 sections timed that so each year a section is harvested, maintaining an income for the farmer, Trees for the environment and plenty of lumber and paper products for you and me.
As a child, you probably visited a Christmas Tree Farm to buy a tree. or maybe you got your tree from a retailer that buys them from a farm year after year as the crop is rotated.
This is not a new process. It been this way for a long time. In fact, when building tires for rubbers, the tire companies bought up South American rubber plantations and again rotated the crop to keep mature trees ready for the harvest, roughly 100 years ago.
Hi, this video is very insightful. Thank you. All the best.
A MUST WATCH!!!!
This is the first video I’ve ever seen from you, awesome video! Please check your pop filter though, especially around 6:20 you can hear a lot of the pops from plosives in your speech. Still super interesting though!
Never knew that’s what it was for. Good stuff.
You are awesome and your choice of topics are awesome keep it up 👍
Adding on to your discussion of Forests as Natural Resources, even in more-regulated countries like Canada, logging and deforestation aren't always replaced one tree cut/one tree planted. Clear-cutting still occurs, and biodiversity/carbon emission concerns still remain. (Though the concerns of petroleum-based alternatives are definitely still overwhelming.)
Logger here. Actually wood used for pulp is waste wood from the process. In western us and Canada at least. The wood was just burned in giant slash piles with other waste. Also on thining jobs the smaller trees that cause over crowding can’t be used for boards so pulp is perfect. These smaller trees cause massive forest fires. It’s a good thing and good for the forests
If u would like more information on forestry practices more then welcome to hit me up on how stuff is done. The forestry industry gets a bad rep from past practices but loggers care about the forest more then anyone against logging. Shoot we choose to work in it 😂
@@tpbforlife3323 Heya! Thanks for dropping this comment, and sorry for the late response. I actually started taking a course at our forestry department (UBC) to get a better idea of how forestry is conducted here in BC/PNW. Selective thinning within natural forests I do see many benefits in, as well as using wood waste as pulp instead of burning on-site.
On the production side, two of the things I'm still trying to wrap my head around is the clear cutting of virgin boreal for toilet paper (wondering whether recycled paper could make up a larger share of the pulp used) and clear cutting of old growth for wood pellet fuels (e.g. Drax). I recognize these aren't necessarily the goals of the majority of foresters, but do these practices make sense from the forestry perspective? If not, are there steps that other folks working in forestry/timber product management are looking to take to change that?
Dope 👌🏽
I love your videos ❤
Only yesterday I bought 5 cardboard boxes, for moving house. Very interesting. I live in Bangkok, so a little outside U.S. marketing range.
Loved this. But which company has the USPS contract? I didn't find the answer online.
"Instead of going to the box factory, we're going to the...box factory!" - Principal Skinner
But what you see a red baseball cap on one of the boxes??
4:22 And that's assuming the cardboard hasn't been contaminated, like pizza boxes and grease.
been loving your channel mate
SUCH A INFORMATIVE VIDEO LOVE THIS
I assume that most cardboard is not recycled cardboard, unless it specifically says so, but I do notice some cardboard which I can tell is made from recycled cardboard just by looking at it. Some fast food burger cartons, and the occasional liquor carton brand, and so forth. It has that identifiable look. I used to consider pizza boxes made of recycled cardboard as being remedial creative disposal, but it is high consumer turnover and so is actually sound recycling.
Extremely well done.
well this is funny. i am watching the Bart gets famous Simpson's episode atm lol. I'm sure Bart would find this video interesting and now i know the box factory manager is way richer than Krusty 🤣
Love this channel :)
Such an insightful video!
Great video there, it's always interesting and informative to watch your videos. I'm a data analyst looking to analyze businesses and industries data like you do. Where do you get these data? Their financial data, production data and supply chain data.
Wow this video show up after i analyze some logistic companies to buy their stock later, great video
never knew its this big, i thought the product manufacturers create the cardboard box themselves
Truly a fascinating video on what seems rather dry/boring at a surface level
Great Videos, really good
I love your channel, you do great work. If I may I would like to very humbly point out that sometimes the video on screen doesn't match whats being said. Again I absolutely love your channel
It’s because the video software being used kind of just reads the text and tries it’s best to pull up whatever stock footage it has in its database. It’s how a lot of TH-cam videos are made. It just gives basic pictures or clips to look at. I doubt he is personally finding and putting in clips on his own.
@@MegaJuniorJones huh, really? I never thought about that processes being automated.
You are awesome, very intricate analysis much appreciated
What tree issit? The paper form(brown) used as ciggar also(about edible species)? Ciggar's thickness is like that?