Absolutely correct observation. One can crop for longer FL, but one can’t just find the wide angle range of 28-43 when having 43… There is absolutely no reason to get 43 if one has 28. Even for new buyers, 28 is more versatile, and more fun, and definitely more useful…
Focal length is not only the crop. It’s different picture even with the same framing: different space compression and different subject-background separation.
Wrong. Compression is only related to the distance from the object. Not related to the focal length. An 28 mm f1.7 with an 1.5x crop is essentially a 42mm f2.55 in all category while retaining the brightness of 1.7.
Can’t you use the Brenizer technique for when you want to go more wide angle on the 43? I use it frequently when I want the compression of a longer focal length but more of the image panorama in the shot (I stitch together in LR after). I usually use back button focus/lock to do this but not sure if the Q3 has this?
If you enjoy the 28mm focal length as default, then yes. But no everyone does. Me for instance. I had the Q2 and just could’t get used to the 28. I however tried a Ricoh 43mm, and felt right at home, because I reaslly like 35mm. So it is perhaps more versatile with a 28mm, but if you don’t enjoy it it makes no sense and them the Q3 43 is a far better choice.
I’ve upgraded from Leica Q(116) to Leica Q3 43 and use it for a week now. And I must say I’m leaning towards to change it to Q3 28. Because exactly - I miss 28 so much and 43 I can crop if needed. And I don’t need these extreme 120 and 150. I will give myself another week to get used to 43, but as for now I don’t see why should I love it more than 28.
thanks for sharing your experience, I just bought a Q3 about 2 months back and have a blast shooting at 28. When the Q3 43 annouce i was having doubts if i made the right choice(obviously i didnt know they are going to release the 43mm so soon)
I have both an ORIGINAL Q and now the 43. Digital crop is fine, but I feel in-camera isn’t necessary at all since I can crop anywhere I like in post. Also, even if you crop with the in camera selections for the JPEG, the perspective remains that of the native lens, you are not getting the same compression perspective as you do with longer focal lengths.
I think this is by far the best video on this special subject. From the beginning you direct jump in to the crucial comparison points, no long boring intro, no self-presentation but just your good and praxis-related thoughts about it. I 100% agree with your decision to the 28.
Hi there, thanks for the detailed video! You have such a warm charisma and a gentle smile. Don’t be shy in front of the camera-just open up a bit more. It’s like watching a beautiful flower start to bloom when you smile, and you are truly lovely! Wishing you all the best and lots of success!
This is the best analysis that I’ve seen comparing the Leica Q3 28mm vs 43mm. All of the points you make in your video are, in my opinion, totally spot on. I recently purchased the Q3 28mm as a replacement for my Canon 5D Mk IV with a boatload of Canon L glass. Most of my shooting was done with either the 24mm to 70mm 2.8L lens or the 24mm to 105mm L series zoom lenses. I would also have a 70mm to 200mm 2.8L lens or even a 100mm to 400 L series zooms with me, and never really use either lens unless I’m out doing strictly Landscape or Wildlife photography. The Q3 28mm I have fulfills 75% or more of the photography that I do everyday with the handling and output of the Q3 28mm equal to or exceeding the Canon 5D Mark IV system that I’ve had for the past 6 years. The fact that I have the 43mm in my Q3 28mm in my crop range (up to 90mm) is the ideal capability that perfectly fits my photography shooting interests.
In the Red Dot shop in London they showed me a large print made from the tele crop end of a Q2. Although less than 10 mp (8 I think) an A2 print looked great from normal viewing perspective. The Q3 is more versatile and the 43 really for portrait work. Rich folk could get both but then you are better with an interchangeable lens camera. Canon L primes are excellent quality. Pro zooms are more for convenience. I have a full Canon kit but it’s too heavy and bulky for weekend trips with cabin bag limits. For me, as a travel enthusiast the X100 V1 and wide angle converter is fine, light and a lot cheaper. I’m afraid the red dot on the Q3 could be a theft magnet like a Rolex in many cities. I’m off to the main cities of mid Spain next week. Think my Fuji and iPhone 15 pro max will suffice….and they are waterproof.
When I first got the Q3 28mm, it took sometime to get used to shooting and thinking about that focal length. It was also my first camera with that high of a resolution (typically a M4/3 shooter). Looking at the full resolution images in a computer, and crop capacity, it changed how I thought about shooting at the 28mm and having the confidence that I can re-compose the scene after. Sometimes, I wish that the Leica would allow punch-in in the viewfinder, instead of the frame lines. I think that flexibility would be really appealing! That and 180 shutter angle on video. Make it happen through a firmware update, Leica!
I wish the same thing you mentioned here about the punch-in in the viewfinder! At least let us choose between this and the lines.. really can't understand why Leica is deferent from other systems in this. And the full 60mpx sensor is absolutely open the eyes for post cropping as you said.. thank you so much for the comment!
Very well reasoned discussion. The 60 MB sensor with that fabulous Summilux makes it possible to crop while maintaining a high quality image. Realizing with the 43 that one completely loses the 28-43 range seals the deal for the 28. Thank you 🙏
I am so grateful for your video! When I heard that Leica had launched the Q3 43, I first thought: that can't be true, was I mistaken about the Q3 28 and should I have waited? But you get to the point: you give up so much with the Q3 43! With the 28 mm you have a very special look that other cameras with a longer focal length simply can't achieve. Many photos with 28 are extraordinary, with 43 mm they become "ordinary", no longer distinguishable from similar systems from other manufacturers. You get an average image composition and waste so many options that you have with the Q3 28. Not to mention that you often can't capture the the entire picture with the 43 mm. You confirmed my own thoughts and gave me the certainty that I made the only right decision with the Q3 28. Thank you very much for that!
I fully agree to your opinion about the focal lengths. I also own the 28mm and I love my Q3. I would never trade it for a 43mm. The 28 is much more versatile. I use it as my main travel camera and sometimes even the 28 is not wide enough for me. Everybody states that 43 is what you see. But that is only true perspective wise. Your Field of view is much wider. So you will never be able to catch the scene with a 43mm but you can always crop in with a 28mm. As a summary you can say that if you are more into persons an objects, then take the 43. if you are more into buildings and landscapes and want the Most versatile, then take the 28.
I absolutely LOVE this Video! I recently purchased the Q3-28 in August, and was beginning to wonder if I should have waited for the 43mm, up until this Year, Leica Cameras weren't even a thought to me, My Main Cameras are Nikons (Z9, Z8, and ZF) Leicas are new to me and I do enjoy my Q3-28, I mainly bought the Camera as a Compact that's easy to walk around with, and take great pictures while on Vacation. After using my Q3, I've come to find, that it is far more than just a street shooting Camera, and it's 60mp and Cropping abilities in my opinion puts it in a class of its own. My thought has always been, who would spend that kind of money on a fixed 28mm lens?. I'm glad to say, that I'm one of those people who would gladly spend that kind of money on a fixed 28mm Lens Camera. I will likely pass on the Q3-43, and hope that Nikon will eventually make a Zf II Camera with a larger sensor, or wait to see if Leica make another Q camera with a larger lens option.
I have had the almost identical experience in that I have Z9/Zf and just purchased the Q3 28 a couple weeks ago right around when they announced the 43. I'm really enjoying it. And like my Zf experience, I like how it allows me to slow the process down and focus (literally) on my art. Or use it for fast street/portrait shooting. My thought is also to use my Zf with a couple Voigtlander (50/35) or Nikon lenses to offset my kit to get closer as needed.
The one thing that people have to remember is that you can always crop but you can never expand an image. With the resolution of these cameras it will always give you a good image even cropped.
I love your thoughts on the Q3 43. It is a very handy portrait camera and I think thats the idea of Leica. In fact the new model offers a 120mm (?) & 150mm crop mode which supports your opinion.
I saw that the new model will have up to 150mm crop (but obviously the ideal maximum crop will be around 100/120 mm with a good image quality.. Thank you so much for the comment! (:
I had a Q2 Monochrom (I regrettably sold it) and recently got a Q3 43. I prefer the 43 mm Summicron on a fixed lens camera, but certainly could be happy with a Q3 28. I have other Leica cameras with interchangeable lenses, so I can always go super wide if necessary. If the subject isn’t moving, it’s possible to create wide fields of view by stitching multiple shots together.
Thank you for your video! I have a canon R5. I find my self not using it a lot when I travel because its so big and heavy. Would you recommend the 28mm? I am a bit scared if I muss the changeable lenses.
I also had the R5 and was afraid to sell it, but I'm really happy I made this switch! I take much more photos almost every day.. if you like the 28mm look I'm sure you'll be amazed by the Q3 capabilities, it's really something else.. it's a different mindset to not be able to change lenses but I think that's a open minded and a unique skill to get better in just one focal length.. Thanks for the comment!
Thank you for this comparison. However - if you crop the 28 mm version to 50 mm and compare it with the bokeh of the 43 mm version you see a considerable difference ! Especially for portraiture photographers this might be an argument to decide for the 43 !
Totally agree with you. The quality of the camera gives you the freedom of cropping a lot, and getting the 43mm you lose too much from the wide angle. Sometimes in one photo I took, I found I could crop it in 2 really nice photos, and with a less wide lens, I would lose that. And about a future camera, I dream about a Q camera with an L mount and a joystick for the AF. The L mount would give me the freedom to choose between adapting M lenses or using L lenses with AF, that would be the perfect camera for me. One question about the Q3, I don't know if I go crazy or if you saw that too, but when I shoot at ISO 50 and/or underexpose my photos I find the black, the contrast and the colors look a lot better.
Thank you so much for the great video! When I first got the Leica Q3 28mm it took some time to get used to the wide angle, but now I absolutely love it. I also enjoy the flexibility the Leica dng files give me in LR. Seeing all the reviews, 43mm seems just ever so slightly tight, and although the sharpness and precision of an apo summicron lens is really appealing, I don't think I'll make the switch and I feel confident in my choice for the 28mm. I love the unique look it produces and it challenges me to be more mindful of my framing😊
Very lovely down to earth video and absolut great photos from you! I loved everything about the 35mm on my Leica M9 and it became second nature. I mostly use the Q3 as a second camera when I do video jobs or for private purposes. I Love everything about the camera, the lens, the sensor.But even if you can crop, for me ideally you take the photo exactly as you want to have it in the end. I talked a lot with colleagues about it + my workflow is a bit the problem as well ;D I make my first selection when importing the pictures to Lightroom, and for some reason you then not see the crop factor unfortunately...so sometimes I then missed out pictures where I used the crop mode... long story short: taking pictures is also about feel of your camera - and i am looking so forward to a Q3 with a 43mm - finally!
Very good points you make and people always get carried away when new camera’s are released specially Leica’s. I feel that you have the best of both worlds with having a Q3 28mm as it gives you plenty of flexibility. I still have my Q2 and Q2M and find the 47mp is more than enough when cropping. It was good to hear you would like a M11. I just picked up a used one and it is a wonderful shooting experience. I think if you start wanting lots of different focal lengths then the M would be a good choice. Having said that I do think we need to enjoy what we have and just shoot more, gear is not everything 🙂
I always love your comments so much!! Couldn't agree more with your last point on enjoy what we have.. It feels that people always running now days for the newest things when they can instead just enjoy what they have. Of course it happens to me too sometimes but it's important to remember 🙏🏻 Having said that..😅, I hope in the future to get an M series to expend my experience with the Leica.. Thank you for this beautiful comment!!
@@iGefen Shame I missed you but did not have the M then of course 🙂I know of some very good cheap accommodation in the NE of the island when you you do plan to come again.
What about compression? Cropping into a 28 gives you by no means the same look as a longer lens. The 43 has more lens compression than the 28. Just another thought to consider
Sorry but I must contradict. The perspective (Compression) ONLY depends on your distance to the subject. If you shoot with 28mm at the same distance and crop, you have the same compression as with a 50 or 75mm lens. Depth of field and resolution is another story of course. But the idea of a different compression is a widely perceived misconception as this is physically not correct.
Not only that, you have also a way nicer bokeh with the 43. Its impossible to get that with the the 28. Unless you go extremly close to the subject, which will end up in distorted face. Im currently owning both Q3s but I am thinking of selling the 28 veesion. Even thought having both is an killer combo (but an expensive one...)
Yes, the 28 mm Q3 is a more versatile camera. You can always crop to the 43 mm focal length and still have about a 25 MP file, which is plenty. Although the 43 mm lens would allow you to crop into proper telephoto ranges and still have usable resolution. Do you know if the macro has improved on the 43 mm version?
Great point about 28mm being a bit of a unique focal length and like for yourself this is a challenge for me as well, which I start to enjoy more and more. For portrait work I'll be adding 75mm to my m10 (most likely the 1.5/75 by Voigtlaender).
A cropped 28mm to the view of a 43mm is not the same as using a 43mm lens....just like a cropped 28mm portrait will never look like the portrait made with an 85mm lens.
You have brought up a good point in this video about the differences of each camera and what features would be missed. I would not mind if Leica would make a Zoom Lens for the Q3 Like the Leica D-Lux 8. Great Video and the Birds Look well fed too in the background.
Thank you so much for this comment! Yes, the zoom lens on a Q3 will be amazing and I'll be the first one to buy it for a ridiculous price.. And the birds are absolutely taking care of 😂
@@iGefen I would buy a zoom Q3 too, but it would be so so expencive (but I could sell my Q3 and D-Lux 8 to part fund I guess!). I used to have the R5 and several lenses too before I bought the Q3, and although there are some rare times I miss the ability to change lenses for super wide or very long, but now I would not go back either. I agree with you about the original Q3, if i need a longer lens I crop in in Lightroom. What you can't do with the 47mm is go wide and I would miss this. Keep on with the content, I really enjoy them!
Leica has a zoom lens for the Q3, it's called cropping. If they added a optical zoom lens this compact, you'd have a variable aperture, and likely f4 at 50mm, in which case, you have the same "lens compression" and the same bokeh as when cropping on the Q3. And a zoom lens will always have worse image quality, less sharpness, worse bokeh, more CA, so you don't gain anything, except from really long zooms. If you want a f2 zoom lens then this is possible, but it will be giant and QZoom will weigh 2 Kg...
Thanks for this excellent review. When I saw the 43 announcement, I was thrilled... I probably won't go for it though, because I still have my Sony RX1, and still love using it.
Hi! I realy appreciate how you are defending the 28. And yes, I also felt a bit uncomfortable when I first got the Q3 23 six weeks ago. But I softened the plunge by using 28 on a 24-70 Nikon zoom the week before I got the Leica to accommodate myself to the focal length. During the following weeks I learned to love the Q3 28 - but still, I bought the Q3 43 too, owning it now for a full week. Why? It is true that I can crop in with the 28, but I don't like to crop so much, as I want the full quality of the sensor - and not so much a diluted version. So I'm keeping my Q3 28, my Q3 43 and my Nikon bodies with some prime lenses - the later ones for sports, action, wildlife, where the Leica is simply to slow. As for street: Leica reigns supreme though. Both Qs, one for more tight places, one for more intimate shots. I actually love to have the choice to use different cameras with different glass for different occasions. But I also understand your desire to simplifiy life ;-) But as I said: I sometimes want to write with a fountain pen, a ball point pen, somtimes even with a pencil. ;-)
Thank you so much for this comment!! I wonder if you were on a budget, which one would you get out of those 3 cameras (28, 42 or the Nikon).. when I sold my Canon gear for the Leica I stopped shooting wildlife because of the slowness you mentioned. I miss that option but I'm still very happy with that decision and I have no regrets (:
@@iGefen Hi! This is a difficult question. As a matter of fact I own a Z8 and a Zf from the Nikon range - and some glass of course.. The most reasonable answer would be to keep the Z8 and use a zoom lens. Most, if not all tasks could be covered by such a choice. Speed, range (let's assume 24-120). But in reality I very seldom go for the "easy" and sensible solution. Sometimes I put my Voigtländer 50mm f/1.0 on my Zf, which is a manual lens, well knowing that I'll miss a couple of shots due to a) extremely shallow depth of field, b) the requirement to focus manually.Sometimes I put the "Plena" 135mm f/1.8 on my Z8, knowing well, that this will become cumbersome due to weight and that I'll only be getting certain shots and no "grand total" of the scene, the surroundings at all But I still make such choices. I very seldom take a bag full of glass with me. Why? Because I do it for fun, I don't have to sell my images and I don't have the responsibility of - let's say a wedding photographer. And also because of my back :-) . But I disgress, and I'l give you my answer, which is two answers actually: A) the Z8 with a zoom, if I would be on a tight budget and would want (or need ) to get a certain percentage of "keepers" B) the Q3 43, if I would not be compelled to get a certain percentage of keepers (which I wouldn't, when it comes to fast movers) but just for walking around and shooting what doesn't slithers away fast enough.. ;-) Does this answer your question?... PS: I've sent you a message on FB. You don't have to feel compelled to answer it - just wanted to have a look at some stills by you.
Love your thoughts on this!! Thank you so much for the time you dedicated to answer my question.. do you have instagram? I'm more active there, just opened the Facebook page, of course I'll look at what you sent me there and answer (:
@@iGefen I visited my Sister's family in Colorado and it was gorgeous. My Brother-In-Law besides a Bird Bath He put out Bird Feed twice a day and having a good Canon SHX70 Point & Shoot Camera. He was showing me the pictures that him and his son took and they were awesome. So I decided that they could keep a couple of cameras to see if the images were would better in their favour. B-I-L got a Q3 and Nephew got a Fujifilm X100V. Cheers!
@@iGefen Unfortunately I'm not using instagram. Somewhere I have to draw a line - can't be everywhere, there must be some time left for the Real Life.. ;-)
Stimpt, wholgesprochen. Were I in your situation with a 28 already I would understand. But I am coming in to my first Q and like the focal length. I have the X2D with the 55 and like that, the same effective focal length. This is it in a more compact size with the auto-cropping. And I rarely like to shoot wider than 35 and even then rarely. I think for me the 43 is fine. But your video is well reasoned and well presented. Dankeschoen.
I think 28mm is a big part of the whole Q-Idea Leica had. Having a fixed lens should deliver from wide to slight tele. As of now, the 43mm is just a special model and replaces the Q3 Monochrom which will not come anymore. I think Leica is just giving in to a lot of their core customers for who money is no concern. And they wanted a bigger focal length for years. It will be interesting if Leica is doing more versions of the Q in the future or if its just a special version like Monochrom. I think the best selling point is that 43mm is an APO lens. If someone really sees a difference there, there is an argument that this sets the two models apart.
@@lelandfitz1762 I really agree with your point that the 28mm is connected to the Q , it always has been 28 since the Q1 & the Monochrom versions. I'm not sure why Leica made this decision, one can argue the opposite that the 43 mm appears more for people who don't have a Leica.. You have a good point on the lens, maybe it's a big difference for some photographers.. thank you so much for the comment!
@@iGefen Mr. Leitz at the beginning believed that the 43mm focal length was the closest Peripheral Vision as the Human Eye can view. I have watched Mathophotragpher & Mr Leica plus other videos about this subject. Cheers!
@@randallbrander8157 Don't wanna be a know-it-all, just if you are curious about it: The man's name was Oskar Barnack. He basically convinved Mr. Leitz to enter the camera business. 😉
Thank you for your sincere and fair review and confirming what I considered before purchasing the Q3 28 just this week. And I have a Zf I'm going to use with the Voigtlander 50 f1.0 and other Nikon S lenses as needed. The Q3 is to help me reduce my kit size and weight while helping me to slow down and enjoy the art again. I'm very happy with the 28 Q3 and agree with your logic. Thank you. Something I just learned from the MATHPHOTOGRAPHER here on YT that using M-DNG (as opposed to L-DNG) can give you an extra stop of dynamic range. Check it out.
Awhile back I bought the Ricoh GRiiix to compliment my Q2 and found that the GR 40mm equivalent FL to be too tight for my style. So once the Q3 43 was announced, I sold my Q2 and some other gear and bought an elusive Q3 28, because I guess, the overwhelming popularity of the new Q3 43 made a few Q3 28 cameras available. The Q3 with 28mm focal length at 60mp is extremely versatile IMO.
Hi Gefen. After so many years that people are sharing mobile phone style pictures that are basically 26-29mm, we have learned to accept the wide angle view as the standard pov. So, suddenly, the Q3 with 28mm seems the perfect choice. 20 years ago, it would have been the 50mm. So our perception to a standard lens has changed over time, and its OK.
The fact that this now becomes a question and decision point shows that the correct answer here is getting one of the M models and two or three lenses - bonus: you get a real viewfinder.
Your love of the 28mm shows in your lovely (28mm) images. … And I think u are right, if you hv the 28mm u can always zoom in and retain mp’s for 35mm n 50mm.
The leather strap bothers me too. They could have made it using Mylo, for instance. Generally speaking, I hate it that most companies aren’t even trying to give their customers the option of ethical and cruelty-free materials!
I’m keeping my Q2 - the ability to crop with 47 megapixels is in practice no worse than with 60 megapixels, or at least I couldn’t notice the difference with it and my M11. For portraits, the focal length doesn’t make much/any difference provided you resist the temptation to step in and fill the frame with your subject. If you stay the same distance away - pseudo frame lines help you to judge this - you’ll get the same picture with only a very minor difference in depth of field. It takes a while to remember this. I have several shots where I stepped in and the subject’s nose is huge!
כן (: כמו שאמרתי בסרטון שאני שוקלת את הm11 אבל לא כרגע, הרעיון של הq3 שלי היה להפחית את המחשבה על איזה ציוד לקחת ולפשט לי את הצילום. היה לי קאנון עם הרבה עדשות לפני והמעבר היה מעולה בשבילי (: אולי בהמשך.. תודה על התגובה!
Unsurewhy you keep saying 28mm is a unique focal length, it's very popular. Look at the popularity of the Ricoh GR series. And many phones have a 24-28mm focal length.
It’s a bit of a bias of confirmation I think and it’s ok we all do those things. But I agree with you, the 43mm like or not is more unique than the 28mm which is very popular. On the contrary 43mm is not that much used by manufacturers
43 is not just longer than 28. It's an APO, 28 is not. Why do people pay exorbitant amount of money for summicron 35m APO, while regular summicron is not even 1/4 of the cost? Same theory.
@@WildridefilmsI might not have the terminology right but watched a video comparing the same shots w a q3 28 and q3 43, and different crop versions of each shot. What I noticed is the background is further away w the 28 compared to the 43 even when cropping the 28 to a similar focal length as the 43. For example if you have hills in the distant background, they looked further away from the foreground subject. Is that compression? For many of the shots the 43 looked better to me because the background had more presence in the shot. I have a q3 so been curious if I’d prefer the 43 look.
I do like the Cropping Feature from 28mm to 35mm, 50mm, 75mm and 90mm. I wish it could do it in RAW instead of JPEG but I still like what I can get. Cheers!
@@KenichiKasamatsu92 I think You should be asking @iGefen this question instead of me. Now Q3 can only crop in JPEG if You are discussing the different focal lengths. Technically when cropping the file sizes are smaller. So Unless it is Heif not JPEG You cannot edit. In that case the Heif files will be smaller than the RAW. But I would Love to have RAW because of the edit capabilities. I believe what she was implying that the original Q3 can Crop to 35mm or 50mm focal length compared to the Q3 43 and that the extra 120mm & 150mm does not entice her to buy the camera. She likes the Wider Field of View. Cheers!
Leica with fixed lens is only for the extremely rich or highly professional photographers. If you are neither, you better get a much more affordable system where you can switch lenses. This is the best way to learn.
The Q is definitely not for beginners who don't have enough experience with photography to make this decision.. I agree with you (: Thank you for commenting!
Je n'arrive pas à comprendre la logique de sortie de ce modèle 43 mm, surtout qu'il encore plus cher que le 28! 28 c'est parfait pour un mono objectif. J'ai un X100V avec équivalent 35 avec lequel je me suis sentis un peu à l'étroit avant d'acheter la lentille 28 mm qui s'adapte sur l'objectif. Elle y reste montée constamment. Merci pour ces vidéos sympathiques et interessantes
La logique de la sortie est simple : il y a un marché pour Leica, ils l’ont comblé. Dans leur lineup le 43 n’existe que très peu et beaucoup de gens disaient ne pas pouvoir prendre un Q parce que 28mm c’est trop large. J’étais dans le même cas avec un x100v à 35mm que je trouvais parfois étroit, je suis donc parti sur le Q3 à 28mm en pensant faire le bon choix. Résultat le 28mm est beaucoup beaucoup trop large pour moi et mon style de photo. Après avoir essayé le 43, j’ai rendu le 28 pour me laisser plus de temps de réflexion. La nouvelle lentille n’est pas qu’une focale différente, le fait que ce soit une apo chromatique change aussi. Pour avoir pu tester les deux côte à côte ça fait une différence. À la fin de la journée chacun trouvera son compte avec ces deux modèles je pense et ce qui convient à l’un ne conviendra pas à l’autre 🙂
This was the best and most down to earth video on the whole of TH-cam on the Q3 28/43 topic. Thx for that.
Thank you so much!! It means a lot to me to hear that!🙏🏻
So true
@@iGefen 🙏🏻 great colors and city / building shots btw!
Absolutely correct observation. One can crop for longer FL, but one can’t just find the wide angle range of 28-43 when having 43… There is absolutely no reason to get 43 if one has 28. Even for new buyers, 28 is more versatile, and more fun, and definitely more useful…
Focal length is not only the crop. It’s different picture even with the same framing: different space compression and different subject-background separation.
Wrong. Compression is only related to the distance from the object. Not related to the focal length. An 28 mm f1.7 with an 1.5x crop is essentially a 42mm f2.55 in all category while retaining the brightness of 1.7.
Can’t you use the Brenizer technique for when you want to go more wide angle on the 43? I use it frequently when I want the compression of a longer focal length but more of the image panorama in the shot (I stitch together in LR after). I usually use back button focus/lock to do this but not sure if the Q3 has this?
If you enjoy the 28mm focal length as default, then yes. But no everyone does. Me for instance. I had the Q2 and just could’t get used to the 28. I however tried a Ricoh 43mm, and felt right at home, because I reaslly like 35mm. So it is perhaps more versatile with a 28mm, but if you don’t enjoy it it makes no sense and them the Q3 43 is a far better choice.
@@whygamewhyWell said, I wish more people would understand this !
I’ve upgraded from Leica Q(116) to Leica Q3 43 and use it for a week now. And I must say I’m leaning towards to change it to Q3 28. Because exactly - I miss 28 so much and 43 I can crop if needed. And I don’t need these extreme 120 and 150. I will give myself another week to get used to 43, but as for now I don’t see why should I love it more than 28.
Where did you buy your Q3 43? I can’t find one anywhere!!!
thanks for sharing your experience, I just bought a Q3 about 2 months back and have a blast shooting at 28. When the Q3 43 annouce i was having doubts if i made the right choice(obviously i didnt know they are going to release the 43mm so soon)
I have both an ORIGINAL Q and now the 43. Digital crop is fine, but I feel in-camera isn’t necessary at all since I can crop anywhere I like in post. Also, even if you crop with the in camera selections for the JPEG, the perspective remains that of the native lens, you are not getting the same compression perspective as you do with longer focal lengths.
I think this is by far the best video on this special subject. From the beginning you direct jump in to the crucial comparison points, no long boring intro, no self-presentation but just your good and praxis-related thoughts about it. I 100% agree with your decision to the 28.
Thank you very much for this kind comment 🙏🏻
Hi there, thanks for the detailed video! You have such a warm charisma and a gentle smile. Don’t be shy in front of the camera-just open up a bit more. It’s like watching a beautiful flower start to bloom when you smile, and you are truly lovely! Wishing you all the best and lots of success!
i was never interrested by 28mm, the 43mm is just perfect for me , there is nothing better or not , it 's a matter of taste
This is the best analysis that I’ve seen comparing the Leica Q3 28mm vs 43mm. All of the points you make in your video are, in my opinion, totally spot on. I recently purchased the Q3 28mm as a replacement for my Canon 5D Mk IV with a boatload of Canon L glass. Most of my shooting was done with either the 24mm to 70mm 2.8L lens or the 24mm to 105mm L series zoom lenses. I would also have a 70mm to 200mm 2.8L lens or even a 100mm to 400 L series zooms with me, and never really use either lens unless I’m out doing strictly Landscape or Wildlife photography. The Q3 28mm I have fulfills 75% or more of the photography that I do everyday with the handling and output of the Q3 28mm equal to or exceeding the Canon 5D Mark IV system that I’ve had for the past 6 years. The fact that I have the 43mm in my Q3 28mm in my crop range (up to 90mm) is the ideal capability that perfectly fits my photography shooting interests.
In the Red Dot shop in London they showed me a large print made from the tele crop end of a Q2. Although less than 10 mp (8 I think) an A2 print looked great from normal viewing perspective. The Q3 is more versatile and the 43 really for portrait work. Rich folk could get both but then you are better with an interchangeable lens camera.
Canon L primes are excellent quality. Pro zooms are more for convenience. I have a full Canon kit but it’s too heavy and bulky for weekend trips with cabin bag limits.
For me, as a travel enthusiast the X100 V1 and wide angle converter is fine, light and a lot cheaper. I’m afraid the red dot on the Q3 could be a theft magnet like a Rolex in many cities.
I’m off to the main cities of mid Spain next week. Think my Fuji and iPhone 15 pro max will suffice….and they are waterproof.
When I first got the Q3 28mm, it took sometime to get used to shooting and thinking about that focal length. It was also my first camera with that high of a resolution (typically a M4/3 shooter). Looking at the full resolution images in a computer, and crop capacity, it changed how I thought about shooting at the 28mm and having the confidence that I can re-compose the scene after. Sometimes, I wish that the Leica would allow punch-in in the viewfinder, instead of the frame lines. I think that flexibility would be really appealing! That and 180 shutter angle on video. Make it happen through a firmware update, Leica!
I wish the same thing you mentioned here about the punch-in in the viewfinder! At least let us choose between this and the lines.. really can't understand why Leica is deferent from other systems in this.
And the full 60mpx sensor is absolutely open the eyes for post cropping as you said..
thank you so much for the comment!
Yes pls I hope Leica is listening :)
Very well reasoned discussion. The 60 MB sensor with that fabulous Summilux makes it possible to crop while maintaining a high quality image. Realizing with the 43 that one completely loses the 28-43 range seals the deal for the 28. Thank you 🙏
Exactly 😄 Thank you so much for the comment!
I am so grateful for your video! When I heard that Leica had launched the Q3 43, I first thought: that can't be true, was I mistaken about the Q3 28 and should I have waited? But you get to the point: you give up so much with the Q3 43! With the 28 mm you have a very special look that other cameras with a longer focal length simply can't achieve. Many photos with 28 are extraordinary, with 43 mm they become "ordinary", no longer distinguishable from similar systems from other manufacturers. You get an average image composition and waste so many options that you have with the Q3 28. Not to mention that you often can't capture the the entire picture with the 43 mm. You confirmed my own thoughts and gave me the certainty that I made the only right decision with the Q3 28. Thank you very much for that!
I fully agree to your opinion about the focal lengths.
I also own the 28mm and I love my Q3. I would never trade it for a 43mm. The 28 is much more versatile. I use it as my main travel camera and sometimes even the 28 is not wide enough for me. Everybody states that 43 is what you see. But that is only true perspective wise. Your Field of view is much wider. So you will never be able to catch the scene with a 43mm but you can always crop in with a 28mm.
As a summary you can say that if you are more into persons an objects, then take the 43. if you are more into buildings and landscapes and want the Most versatile, then take the 28.
I absolutely LOVE this Video! I recently purchased the Q3-28 in August, and was beginning to wonder if I should have waited for the 43mm, up until this Year, Leica Cameras weren't even a thought to me, My Main Cameras are Nikons (Z9, Z8, and ZF) Leicas are new to me and I do enjoy my Q3-28, I mainly bought the Camera as a Compact that's easy to walk around with, and take great pictures while on Vacation. After using my Q3, I've come to find, that it is far more than just a street shooting Camera, and it's 60mp and Cropping abilities in my opinion puts it in a class of its own. My thought has always been, who would spend that kind of money on a fixed 28mm lens?. I'm glad to say, that I'm one of those people who would gladly spend that kind of money on a fixed 28mm Lens Camera. I will likely pass on the Q3-43, and hope that Nikon will eventually make a Zf II Camera with a larger sensor, or wait to see if Leica make another Q camera with a larger lens option.
I have had the almost identical experience in that I have Z9/Zf and just purchased the Q3 28 a couple weeks ago right around when they announced the 43. I'm really enjoying it. And like my Zf experience, I like how it allows me to slow the process down and focus (literally) on my art. Or use it for fast street/portrait shooting. My thought is also to use my Zf with a couple Voigtlander (50/35) or Nikon lenses to offset my kit to get closer as needed.
The one thing that people have to remember is that you can always crop but you can never expand an image. With the resolution of these cameras it will always give you a good image even cropped.
Have you been able to see the difference between this f2 and the f1.7 in terms of the bokeh/pop?
totally agree , the best reason to stay at 28mm ! thank you for this great video
Wonderful, helpful video!!
I love your thoughts on the Q3 43. It is a very handy portrait camera and I think thats the idea of Leica. In fact the new model offers a 120mm (?) & 150mm crop mode which supports your opinion.
I saw that the new model will have up to 150mm crop (but obviously the ideal maximum crop will be around 100/120 mm with a good image quality..
Thank you so much for the comment! (:
Very helpful video as usual. Thank you Gefen.
Thank you for this comment!
I had a Q2 Monochrom (I regrettably sold it) and recently got a Q3 43. I prefer the 43 mm Summicron on a fixed lens camera, but certainly could be happy with a Q3 28. I have other Leica cameras with interchangeable lenses, so I can always go super wide if necessary.
If the subject isn’t moving, it’s possible to create wide fields of view by stitching multiple shots together.
Thank you for your video! I have a canon R5. I find my self not using it a lot when I travel because its so big and heavy. Would you recommend the 28mm? I am a bit scared if I muss the changeable lenses.
I also had the R5 and was afraid to sell it, but I'm really happy I made this switch! I take much more photos almost every day.. if you like the 28mm look I'm sure you'll be amazed by the Q3 capabilities, it's really something else.. it's a different mindset to not be able to change lenses but I think that's a open minded and a unique skill to get better in just one focal length..
Thanks for the comment!
Thank you for this comparison. However - if you crop the 28 mm version to 50 mm and compare it with the bokeh of the 43 mm version you see a considerable difference ! Especially for portraiture photographers this might be an argument to decide for the 43 !
Totally agree with you. The quality of the camera gives you the freedom of cropping a lot, and getting the 43mm you lose too much from the wide angle. Sometimes in one photo I took, I found I could crop it in 2 really nice photos, and with a less wide lens, I would lose that.
And about a future camera, I dream about a Q camera with an L mount and a joystick for the AF. The L mount would give me the freedom to choose between adapting M lenses or using L lenses with AF, that would be the perfect camera for me.
One question about the Q3, I don't know if I go crazy or if you saw that too, but when I shoot at ISO 50 and/or underexpose my photos I find the black, the contrast and the colors look a lot better.
Thank you so much for the great video! When I first got the Leica Q3 28mm it took some time to get used to the wide angle, but now I absolutely love it. I also enjoy the flexibility the Leica dng files give me in LR. Seeing all the reviews, 43mm seems just ever so slightly tight, and although the sharpness and precision of an apo summicron lens is really appealing, I don't think I'll make the switch and I feel confident in my choice for the 28mm. I love the unique look it produces and it challenges me to be more mindful of my framing😊
I can really relate to what you said.. the 28 is just unique and encouraging mindfulness when talking photos.
Thank you so much for your comment here!
Very lovely down to earth video and absolut great photos from you!
I loved everything about the 35mm on my Leica M9 and it became second nature. I mostly use the Q3 as a second camera when I do video jobs or for private purposes. I Love everything about the camera, the lens, the sensor.But even if you can crop, for me ideally you take the photo exactly as you want to have it in the end. I talked a lot with colleagues about it + my workflow is a bit the problem as well ;D I make my first selection when importing the pictures to Lightroom, and for some reason you then not see the crop factor unfortunately...so sometimes I then missed out pictures where I used the crop mode...
long story short: taking pictures is also about feel of your camera - and i am looking so forward to a Q3 with a 43mm - finally!
Very good points you make and people always get carried away when new camera’s are released specially Leica’s. I feel that you have the best of both worlds with having a Q3 28mm as it gives you plenty of flexibility. I still have my Q2 and Q2M and find the 47mp is more than enough when cropping. It was good to hear you would like a M11. I just picked up a used one and it is a wonderful shooting experience. I think if you start wanting lots of different focal lengths then the M would be a good choice. Having said that I do think we need to enjoy what we have and just shoot more, gear is not everything 🙂
I always love your comments so much!!
Couldn't agree more with your last point on enjoy what we have.. It feels that people always running now days for the newest things when they can instead just enjoy what they have. Of course it happens to me too sometimes but it's important to remember 🙏🏻
Having said that..😅, I hope in the future to get an M series to expend my experience with the Leica..
Thank you for this beautiful comment!!
@@iGefen If you ever come to Crete let me know and you can take my M11 out for a spin 🙂
@Foto384 That is so kind of you ! I was at Crete last year and really enjoyed it, will definitely go back sometime ☺️
@@iGefen Shame I missed you but did not have the M then of course 🙂I know of some very good cheap accommodation in the NE of the island when you you do plan to come again.
What about compression? Cropping into a 28 gives you by no means the same look as a longer lens. The 43 has more lens compression than the 28. Just another thought to consider
Sorry but I must contradict. The perspective (Compression) ONLY depends on your distance to the subject. If you shoot with 28mm at the same distance and crop, you have the same compression as with a 50 or 75mm lens. Depth of field and resolution is another story of course. But the idea of a different compression is a widely perceived misconception as this is physically not correct.
Not only that, you have also a way nicer bokeh with the 43. Its impossible to get that with the the 28. Unless you go extremly close to the subject, which will end up in distorted face. Im currently owning both Q3s but I am thinking of selling the 28 veesion. Even thought having both is an killer combo (but an expensive one...)
Yes, the 28 mm Q3 is a more versatile camera. You can always crop to the 43 mm focal length and still have about a 25 MP file, which is plenty. Although the 43 mm lens would allow you to crop into proper telephoto ranges and still have usable resolution.
Do you know if the macro has improved on the 43 mm version?
Thanks. I appreciate your honest reactions! Geoff
Great point about 28mm being a bit of a unique focal length and like for yourself this is a challenge for me as well, which I start to enjoy more and more. For portrait work I'll be adding 75mm to my m10 (most likely the 1.5/75 by Voigtlaender).
I think like you that the 75 mm lens combined with the M series is the best portrait option 😄
Thank you so much for your comment!
I have that Voighrlander and it is great for portraits. I use it on an SL3
A cropped 28mm to the view of a 43mm is not the same as using a 43mm lens....just like a cropped 28mm portrait will never look like the portrait made with an 85mm lens.
You have brought up a good point in this video about the differences of each camera and what features would be missed. I would not mind if Leica would make a Zoom Lens for the Q3 Like the Leica D-Lux 8. Great Video and the Birds Look well fed too in the background.
Thank you so much for this comment! Yes, the zoom lens on a Q3 will be amazing and I'll be the first one to buy it for a ridiculous price.. And the birds are absolutely taking care of 😂
@@iGefen I would buy a zoom Q3 too, but it would be so so expencive (but I could sell my Q3 and D-Lux 8 to part fund I guess!). I used to have the R5 and several lenses too before I bought the Q3, and although there are some rare times I miss the ability to change lenses for super wide or very long, but now I would not go back either. I agree with you about the original Q3, if i need a longer lens I crop in in Lightroom. What you can't do with the 47mm is go wide and I would miss this. Keep on with the content, I really enjoy them!
Leica has a zoom lens for the Q3, it's called cropping. If they added a optical zoom lens this compact, you'd have a variable aperture, and likely f4 at 50mm, in which case, you have the same "lens compression" and the same bokeh as when cropping on the Q3. And a zoom lens will always have worse image quality, less sharpness, worse bokeh, more CA, so you don't gain anything, except from really long zooms. If you want a f2 zoom lens then this is possible, but it will be giant and QZoom will weigh 2 Kg...
@@TheKimNeeper I rather have the zoom capabilities and it would weigh less than a mirrorless combination. Cheers!
Thanks for this excellent review. When I saw the 43 announcement, I was thrilled... I probably won't go for it though, because I still have my Sony RX1, and still love using it.
Hi! I realy appreciate how you are defending the 28. And yes, I also felt a bit uncomfortable when I first got the Q3 23 six weeks ago. But I softened the plunge by using 28 on a 24-70 Nikon zoom the week before I got the Leica to accommodate myself to the focal length. During the following weeks I learned to love the Q3 28 - but still, I bought the Q3 43 too, owning it now for a full week. Why? It is true that I can crop in with the 28, but I don't like to crop so much, as I want the full quality of the sensor - and not so much a diluted version. So I'm keeping my Q3 28, my Q3 43 and my Nikon bodies with some prime lenses - the later ones for sports, action, wildlife, where the Leica is simply to slow. As for street: Leica reigns supreme though. Both Qs, one for more tight places, one for more intimate shots. I actually love to have the choice to use different cameras with different glass for different occasions. But I also understand your desire to simplifiy life ;-) But as I said: I sometimes want to write with a fountain pen, a ball point pen, somtimes even with a pencil. ;-)
Thank you so much for this comment!! I wonder if you were on a budget, which one would you get out of those 3 cameras (28, 42 or the Nikon)..
when I sold my Canon gear for the Leica I stopped shooting wildlife because of the slowness you mentioned. I miss that option but I'm still very happy with that decision and I have no regrets (:
@@iGefen Hi! This is a difficult question. As a matter of fact I own a Z8 and a Zf from the Nikon range - and some glass of course.. The most reasonable answer would be to keep the Z8 and use a zoom lens. Most, if not all tasks could be covered by such a choice. Speed, range (let's assume 24-120). But in reality I very seldom go for the "easy" and sensible solution. Sometimes I put my Voigtländer 50mm f/1.0 on my Zf, which is a manual lens, well knowing that I'll miss a couple of shots due to a) extremely shallow depth of field, b) the requirement to focus manually.Sometimes I put the "Plena" 135mm f/1.8 on my Z8, knowing well, that this will become cumbersome due to weight and that I'll only be getting certain shots and no "grand total" of the scene, the surroundings at all But I still make such choices. I very seldom take a bag full of glass with me. Why? Because I do it for fun, I don't have to sell my images and I don't have the responsibility of - let's say a wedding photographer. And also because of my back :-) . But I disgress, and I'l give you my answer, which is two answers actually: A) the Z8 with a zoom, if I would be on a tight budget and would want (or need ) to get a certain percentage of "keepers" B) the Q3 43, if I would not be compelled to get a certain percentage of keepers (which I wouldn't, when it comes to fast movers) but just for walking around and shooting what doesn't slithers away fast enough.. ;-) Does this answer your question?... PS: I've sent you a message on FB. You don't have to feel compelled to answer it - just wanted to have a look at some stills by you.
Love your thoughts on this!! Thank you so much for the time you dedicated to answer my question..
do you have instagram? I'm more active there, just opened the Facebook page, of course I'll look at what you sent me there and answer (:
@@iGefen I visited my Sister's family in Colorado and it was gorgeous. My Brother-In-Law besides a Bird Bath He put out Bird Feed twice a day and having a good Canon SHX70 Point & Shoot Camera. He was showing me the pictures that him and his son took and they were awesome. So I decided that they could keep a couple of cameras to see if the images were would better in their favour. B-I-L got a Q3 and Nephew got a Fujifilm X100V. Cheers!
@@iGefen Unfortunately I'm not using instagram. Somewhere I have to draw a line - can't be everywhere, there must be some time left for the Real Life.. ;-)
Stimpt, wholgesprochen. Were I in your situation with a 28 already I would understand. But I am coming in to my first Q and like the focal length. I have the X2D with the 55 and like that, the same effective focal length. This is it in a more compact size with the auto-cropping. And I rarely like to shoot wider than 35 and even then rarely. I think for me the 43 is fine. But your video is well reasoned and well presented. Dankeschoen.
Completely agree. I love my 28 Q3 and wouldn’t swap it for anything.
I think 28mm is a big part of the whole Q-Idea Leica had. Having a fixed lens should deliver from wide to slight tele. As of now, the 43mm is just a special model and replaces the Q3 Monochrom which will not come anymore. I think Leica is just giving in to a lot of their core customers for who money is no concern. And they wanted a bigger focal length for years. It will be interesting if Leica is doing more versions of the Q in the future or if its just a special version like Monochrom. I think the best selling point is that 43mm is an APO lens. If someone really sees a difference there, there is an argument that this sets the two models apart.
@@lelandfitz1762 I really agree with your point that the 28mm is connected to the Q , it always has been 28 since the Q1 & the Monochrom versions. I'm not sure why Leica made this decision, one can argue the opposite that the 43 mm appears more for people who don't have a Leica..
You have a good point on the lens, maybe it's a big difference for some photographers..
thank you so much for the comment!
@@iGefen Mr. Leitz at the beginning believed that the 43mm focal length was the closest Peripheral Vision as the Human Eye can view. I have watched Mathophotragpher & Mr Leica plus other videos about this subject. Cheers!
The 43mm APO is a higher quality glass
@@randallbrander8157 Don't wanna be a know-it-all, just if you are curious about it: The man's name was Oskar Barnack. He basically convinved Mr. Leitz to enter the camera business. 😉
I love love love my Q2 monochrom
Nice points of view
Excellent review in favor of the 28. I’ll stick to it though it’s a Q2 I have.
Thank you for your sincere and fair review and confirming what I considered before purchasing the Q3 28 just this week. And I have a Zf I'm going to use with the Voigtlander 50 f1.0 and other Nikon S lenses as needed. The Q3 is to help me reduce my kit size and weight while helping me to slow down and enjoy the art again. I'm very happy with the 28 Q3 and agree with your logic. Thank you. Something I just learned from the MATHPHOTOGRAPHER here on YT that using M-DNG (as opposed to L-DNG) can give you an extra stop of dynamic range. Check it out.
Awhile back I bought the Ricoh GRiiix to compliment my Q2 and found that the GR 40mm equivalent FL to be too tight for my style. So once the Q3 43 was announced, I sold my Q2 and some other gear and bought an elusive Q3 28, because I guess, the overwhelming popularity of the new Q3 43 made a few Q3 28 cameras available. The Q3 with 28mm focal length at 60mp is extremely versatile IMO.
Great video Gefen......43mm is the way to go!
I wished you showed some pictures.
Hi Gefen. After so many years that people are sharing mobile phone style pictures that are basically 26-29mm, we have learned to accept the wide angle view as the standard pov. So, suddenly, the Q3 with 28mm seems the perfect choice.
20 years ago, it would have been the 50mm. So our perception to a standard lens has changed over time, and its OK.
I really enjoy your videos……
The fact that this now becomes a question and decision point shows that the correct answer here is getting one of the M models and two or three lenses - bonus: you get a real viewfinder.
Great vid. This is coming from a lowly sony A6700 shooter 😊
Your love of the 28mm shows in your lovely (28mm) images. … And I think u are right, if you hv the 28mm u can always zoom in and retain mp’s for 35mm n 50mm.
I have my 28 on ebay... Considering getting the 43... But youve made me doubt my decision now!!
The leather strap bothers me too. They could have made it using Mylo, for instance. Generally speaking, I hate it that most companies aren’t even trying to give their customers the option of ethical and cruelty-free materials!
I’m keeping my Q2 - the ability to crop with 47 megapixels is in practice no worse than with 60 megapixels, or at least I couldn’t notice the difference with it and my M11. For portraits, the focal length doesn’t make much/any difference provided you resist the temptation to step in and fill the frame with your subject. If you stay the same distance away - pseudo frame lines help you to judge this - you’ll get the same picture with only a very minor difference in depth of field. It takes a while to remember this. I have several shots where I stepped in and the subject’s nose is huge!
You are spot on. The 28mm is more versatile than the 43mm.
האם שקלת M10? ואז יכולה לשים עליה כל אורך מוקד שבא לך
כן (: כמו שאמרתי בסרטון שאני שוקלת את הm11 אבל לא כרגע, הרעיון של הq3 שלי היה להפחית את המחשבה על איזה ציוד לקחת ולפשט לי את הצילום. היה לי קאנון עם הרבה עדשות לפני והמעבר היה מעולה בשבילי (:
אולי בהמשך.. תודה על התגובה!
Cropping is not the same as a longer lens. So no, you don’t have the 43mm.
I like them both.
Good video also remember new 43 has apo lens ,
Some comments claim that you can crop but never expand an image. That’s not exactly true. In many cases you can by stitching a panorama in post.
Unsurewhy you keep saying 28mm is a unique focal length, it's very popular. Look at the popularity of the Ricoh GR series. And many phones have a 24-28mm focal length.
It’s a bit of a bias of confirmation I think and it’s ok we all do those things. But I agree with you, the 43mm like or not is more unique than the 28mm which is very popular. On the contrary 43mm is not that much used by manufacturers
43 is not just longer than 28. It's an APO, 28 is not.
Why do people pay exorbitant amount of money for summicron 35m APO, while regular summicron is not even 1/4 of the cost?
Same theory.
You do lose the lens compression of the longer focal length
I said that the lenses deference is really small in my opinion (from other videos I saw) and I focus here only on the focal length comparison (:
"lens compression" is purely a factor of the field of view. A 28mm shot cropped to 43mm will have the same compression characteristics of a 43mm lens.
@@WildridefilmsI might not have the terminology right but watched a video comparing the same shots w a q3 28 and q3 43, and different crop versions of each shot. What I noticed is the background is further away w the 28 compared to the 43 even when cropping the 28 to a similar focal length as the 43. For example if you have hills in the distant background, they looked further away from the foreground subject. Is that compression? For many of the shots the 43 looked better to me because the background had more presence in the shot. I have a q3 so been curious if I’d prefer the 43 look.
Get the Sony a7cr with a 24 & 50mm lens.
Thank you.
I do like the Cropping Feature from 28mm to 35mm, 50mm, 75mm and 90mm. I wish it could do it in RAW instead of JPEG but I still like what I can get. Cheers!
I wish the same on the RAW files! 😄
in LR, your raws appear as cropped when editing. is this what you’re referring to?
@@KenichiKasamatsu92 I think You should be asking @iGefen this question instead of me. Now Q3 can only crop in JPEG if You are discussing the different focal lengths. Technically when cropping the file sizes are smaller. So Unless it is Heif not JPEG You cannot edit. In that case the Heif files will be smaller than the RAW. But I would Love to have RAW because of the edit capabilities. I believe what she was implying that the original Q3 can Crop to 35mm or 50mm focal length compared to the Q3 43 and that the extra 120mm & 150mm does not entice her to buy the camera. She likes the Wider Field of View. Cheers!
Great video & thoughts! As I understand stand y can shot 35mm frame in view with the 28 and decide later, good option.
@andersphansson8335 Thank you for the comment! And yes, that's an option that I use a lot 😄
Cropped pictures and higher focus length isn’t the same. Neither in terms of bokeh nor in terms of field of view.
With 28 you can crop to what you want. You can’t do that with 43.
Leica with fixed lens is only for the extremely rich or highly professional photographers. If you are neither, you better get a much more affordable system where you can switch lenses. This is the best way to learn.
The Q is definitely not for beginners who don't have enough experience with photography to make this decision.. I agree with you (:
Thank you for commenting!
Je n'arrive pas à comprendre la logique de sortie de ce modèle 43 mm, surtout qu'il encore plus cher que le 28!
28 c'est parfait pour un mono objectif. J'ai un X100V avec équivalent 35 avec lequel je me suis sentis un peu à l'étroit avant d'acheter la lentille 28 mm qui s'adapte sur l'objectif. Elle y reste montée constamment.
Merci pour ces vidéos sympathiques et interessantes
Thank you for your comment here! It means a lot for me (:
La logique de la sortie est simple : il y a un marché pour Leica, ils l’ont comblé. Dans leur lineup le 43 n’existe que très peu et beaucoup de gens disaient ne pas pouvoir prendre un Q parce que 28mm c’est trop large. J’étais dans le même cas avec un x100v à 35mm que je trouvais parfois étroit, je suis donc parti sur le Q3 à 28mm en pensant faire le bon choix. Résultat le 28mm est beaucoup beaucoup trop large pour moi et mon style de photo. Après avoir essayé le 43, j’ai rendu le 28 pour me laisser plus de temps de réflexion.
La nouvelle lentille n’est pas qu’une focale différente, le fait que ce soit une apo chromatique change aussi. Pour avoir pu tester les deux côte à côte ça fait une différence. À la fin de la journée chacun trouvera son compte avec ces deux modèles je pense et ce qui convient à l’un ne conviendra pas à l’autre 🙂
Ви молодець, я так само вважаю що 28 універсальніше за 43, і я не буду її міняти!
Q3: 28, 35, 50. Vs. Q3 43: 43. No brainer 😬👌
Everybody is satisfied with the iphone camera, which is also about 28mm
A lot of tests have shown that the Leica Q3 lens is in reality more like 25-26mm though.
@@TerraThink depends on focus distance also because the lens suffers quite a bit from focus breathing.
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