South Korean KF-21 Boramae Vs China Shenyang J-11 DOGFIGHT | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |
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3:43 my man did the Top Gun: Maverick Su-57 “what the f**k was that” moment
......Tom Cruise enters the chat
......The Law of physics leaves the chat
It means that the Mig 21 can also challenge and destroy the F22 in dogfight. Really, it's not a plane. It's a pilot.
@@heatblast876 You forgot that the F-22 can snipe that Mig-21 from afar. For most of the time, it mostly 76% plane, 24% pilot. Can the F-4E Phantom take on a Mig-29 Fulcrum from afar? No it can't. Can it pose a threat below 15,000 feet? Yeah, it can. However who wouldn't squeeze down the trigger from afar but instead go and take a greater risk by going into a dogfight? Also, your quote of saying "it's not a plane. It's a pilot.", it is actually "it's not the plane. It's the pilot."
"Splitting the throttles!"
"Splitting the throttles!"
I guess only user has made the limitation. But, KF-21 is supposed to be actually the most dog fighter designed. Just few months KF-21 passed the test for high angle flying and low speed flying. angle is almost the same as F-22, or 70 degree angle. other flighters are less than 60 degree angle. So, I guess the programmer makes the same flying ability as F-35's.
I am in love with the KF-21. Such an awesome concept and project.
why? It is just an ugly F22 clone.
@@KittyKittyCat-vf8zdDo not tell them the truth😂
KF21에 대한 관심과 사랑에 감사드립니다!
In my opinion Kf21 unit 6 can win the battle
You know the rules - now you need to fly it and do a bvr as well.
he did already
@yurackjung9321 thanks, must have missed it. Will have a look.
In the actual battle, the J-11 is shot down by a Meteor launched from a KF-21 200 km away.
哈哈哈，挺好玩的，你确实不知道射程最大的空对空导弹来自哪个国家。
That boiled down to pilot skill. Neither plane seemed to hold much of an advantage and your opponent seemed to not be very skilled in the rate fight
Nah. He was skilled. They both were.
Maybe because of the kf-21 module’s aerodynamic capabilities? It is never shown to public so far as i know
@@dna10165I think in the rate fight since the Kf-21's rate speeds aren't known yet it was hard for the other pilot to rateproperly
Personal opinion, that was probably the best dogfight I’ve seen on this channel. The Kf 21 put up one hell of a fight
Idea: 1v1v1 dogfight? Could be a little too choatic but at least worth a try
Why? You let the other two go at it, then you take on the survivor.
It was like ballet dance in the sky
Agreed, how would you like to see dogfighting become a professional motorsport like air racing?
Especially when you have fighters with a t/w ratio higher than 1. The dogfight between su 57 and f22 are beautiful.
@@significantlystrangeboi9929 paintball bullets
@@eugeneescalona9478 no, laser tag, checkout “sky combat ace”
Round 2 was quite a chess match there. Very entertaining. Well done.
All Chinese fighter jets are made in Temu.
是的，你说的对，我们400米高的房子也是用石头堆起来的。
Pay your debt to China first😂😂
The KF-21 being smaller always made me see it as a baby raptor. If you're going to imitate why not go for the top dog
The suspicion is that they're intending to wait for a 5th gen version so that they can fulfill their obligation to Indonesia with the lower spec blocks first.
Because of 💸
The stated plan is that they are, but in stages. Probably mainly funding but also iirc most if, not all the tech is/will be indigenous, so that needs to be developed too.
It was designed in partnership with Lockheed Martin
@@9999AWC "If you're going to imitate why not go for the top dog". You think their American masters would allow that? It's not even fully their IP, they rely on American tech and design to build that thing.
Man that kF-21 can pull some insane AoA to be able to give a flanker a hard time in a one circle.
This was my favorite dogfight video you've made, the stakes felt so high, both planes felt nearly equal, it was such a good fight. Especially because alot of this showcased pilot skill and it was awesome to see how you guys adapted to each others mistakes, my favorite df video ever, I'd love to see this with Fox 2's.
Can you imagine the G in a fight like this in reality?
Attrition, would find the loser quickly with a battle this long. Great stuff !
I was rooting so hard for that KF21! I need to see it Piloted by GS. I really think it has potential. I need to see this thing get some wins!
it might not have an interior, which is why he never flew the yf23 iirc
We really be getting the KF-21 before the T/ T/A / F/A -50 in DCS
Man, I finally have the time to watch this, and what beautiful flying in the first round!!
The KF-21 in terms of design is far superior to the F-35 IMO. Implementation and tech is another conversation entirely.
Great fight!
Good flying by both pilots!!
That was some of the most fun to watch dogfighting on your channel that I've seen. Awesome video!
KF-21 is basically F-22 frame with Super Hornet engine
It’s smaller than the f22 iirc
You need to play Arma. They actually slap the F22 engine into a F18.
@@CodenameCat-go4xnthe smaller, the better ok?
@@isbe3 “it’s average I swear!”
That move at the 12:00 minute mark was *chefs kiss*
Just joy of a fight to watch! Thank you!
So when will Indonesia pay its share? Indonesia breached contract
I've always loved those longer winded dogfights. It's always awesome to see 2 aircraft nearly evenly matched and the fight comes down to the pilots! Great video as always man!
GS's classic move. Wait til they are out of energy and then saw their wing off.
Masterful fight from both of you!
Would love if you could include the tactical view in an insert window.
Excellent work ! Thanks so much for this Channel !!
this channel is really good for getting little bits of dust off my main screen
It's so strange, watching these has actually improved my dogfighting in Ace Combat. Obviously not a 1 for 1, but certain concepts still apply.
Awesome video. Your opponent put up a damn good fight to be far.
Excellent video. That was a great fight!
Good video GS! Flankers are always asking questions.
Absolute nailbiters both times. Fantastic work by both of you!
Given the look of the KF-21, the F-35, and the Checkmate, is all 5th Gen development just "everything will become crabs"?
Thank You ALEXTV
And a great big thank you to ANVIL for putting the KF-21 through its paces, fantastic flying Sir.
Great content GS, You Da Man
That was a great battle. Beautiful gameplay!! Great job!
I've said it before, it's worth saying each video...... you make it look so easy. Flow state would have been a good call sign.
KF-21 looks like a 3-way stepchild between an F-18, F-22 and F-35.
@GrowlingSidewinder I am assuming AlexTV is making all these mods, Su-75, KF-21, etc. Do you know when he plans to make them public?
How can something like j-11 catch kf-21?
It sounds like 'mae' from 'made' (past tense of make). Bo-ra-mae means a hawk that was trained for hunting from less than 1 year old. Indonesian government was supposed to pay a partial development budget, but they only paid 10% of what expected which is drastically less than anticipated.. but this development is still ongoing in a good shape fortunately. Thanks for the video! I felt sad that mobility seems not better, but the warzone is not only dogfight so I would take as relief for me 😢
dcs and modders are using only unclassified information. This isn't actual 1:1 replications of what these jets can do. And it comes down to pilot skill
@@MTEditz I'd say the performance of the J-11 is probably pretty close to the actual Su-27, which is very well known (Unless they've gotten engine upgrades since). The KF-21 is still highly classified, I'd say that the flight model in DCS seems to be a mix of the F-22 and F-35, and that gap in performance compared to the J-11 is almost certainly because the pilot is still unfamiliar with it. The fight was a lot closer in the second round, so it seemed like he was learning on the spot.
Yup. "-mae" as in Ginnie Mae and Fannie Mae. Glad you brought this up.
Enjoying GS show, as always.
Dammed good fight both of you... like watching a 12 round boxing match between 2 guys who wont back down
Dang, you two were ducking and weaving around each other's nose's like a pair of pro boxers dodging punches! Very impressive display by both aircraft and pilots!
Dang GS, that was exhausting even for me.
Dogfighting with Super Hornet would be intresting.
It's not ment to be a dogfighter as you mentioned, but they both have same engines, and even very similar wing area.
F35 is underrated it is actually pretty good in a dogfight
Can never doubt flanker’s performance
helps put things in perspective in regards to how spoiled we are in the US with our 22s (and 35s)
Good fight, made you work for those.
I've been watching your stuff for well over a year and I'm still blown away by your technical knowledge and ability to read your bandit and maneuver accordingly. It's fun watching someone with your level of skill.
That was some great flying by both of you
Watching this it seemed as thought the pilot wasn't as familiar with that platform as they could have been, and...that the KF-21 seemed a little under powered compared to the J-11. Fun to watch, long dogfights. Thanks for this.
Looking at specs, the Boramae should have a very slight edge in TWR, though that might change at Max Takeoff Weight. Performance was almost certainly due to unfamiliarity with the platform. The fight certainly made it seem that way.
Awesome fight, cool techniques and showcase of skill, loved it :)
strangely, KF-21 looks like an F-22 airframe with F-35 wings to me xD
Great fight. Round 2 was a battle!
perfect example of patience meeting opportunity
Hey! Former USMC Infantry here. Really appreciate the dance you Pilots do up there. Got any vids of air/ground, close air support?
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@@GrowlingSidewinder Hi! Is it possible you can do BVR with SD-10 missiles again(Against any missile).
Outstanding flying by the both of you. Couple of inches, literally, it could have easily been 2-0 him. Very entertaining guys!
Very good vid. :D
I was waiting for one of y'all to have to drop gears.
those were some long fights. Glad to see GS reign victorious
Good piloting both sides!
How long does it take you to learn how to fly a plane? Whatcha using for controls ? Nice video
@1:46 BF moment + BF theme always used as an outro = confirmed. GS is a BF jet sweat
Impressive man, what a close fight. He did an awesome job against a flanker. Nearly had you a few times. Loved that video man.
10 stars for that one dude.
Protip for flying in the PLAAF: "Over-G" in a J-11 actually means Over (to the) Gulag for you! Don't break the Dear Leader's planes!
Would be cool to see the tac view of the fight!
GS great vid man, what about the su27/J11 against the su75?
Great fight, very tense the whole time.
Would like to see more of Anvil!! Great fight!!
12:35 - You DID have him across your nose…SHOOT! Lols
You make every fighter you fly, like it’s on steroids
I can’t if he commentates during the actual dog fight or if it’s after and he overlays the audio. It seems like you would need to be pretty focused during these dog fights
I almost thought the fight is never going to end 😅
Patiently waiting for GS to drop the BF3 F-18 mission “Going Hunting”
Nice looking plane, F22? Are you still using the F100 engines from the US?
KF-21 Block III (5th Generation) VS FC-31
I know it isnt necessary, but an f22 vs f22 dogfight would be cool. A bunch of cool moves for the whole video would be lit.
Looks like it would be great with HOBS Fox 2s. Seems like that is what it was meant to fight with.
I fk love dcs, its just so hard to learn tho, all i have is an hotas, i can't keep visual, should i get vr or IRtracker?
If he was keeping the vertical fight, he would kill you
Great video. For some reason I enjoy bvr stuff just a little more 😅
That's a weird lookin f15/16/18. How'd you figure out how to start it up?
Good flight! 😀
You should try a BVR fight with these 2 now.
how do you look around and play with a joystick and throttle at the same time
Those were good fights. 👍🏼
"This thing is not imaginary" like the Checkmate?
I never seen you use the Chinese Su-30 👀
Flanker outrating something is something unusual to see
Such a very even and interesting fight.
It seemed to me or did you not use ERCS on J11? That is, a tight connection
Really enjoyed this fight.
Shoutout to Anvil, that second fight was awesome!
i like your work thanks
Hey GS. I dont know about this software too much, but maybe lower the shadow details.
I enjoy your videos. I want to get into this simulator soon.