Paying EXTRA for TANK 500 Ultra Hybrid?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มิ.ย. 2024
- Is GWM Tank 500 Ultra worth the extra cash? I DON'T think so, and here's why!
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GWM Tank 500 Lux has every imaginable feature that you would realistically need, while Tank 500 Ultra will cost you 10% extra and giving you a superficial set of features that you won't really benefit from, at least if you are not an avid off-roader!
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📃 VIDEO CHAPTERS 📃
00:00 - Welcome!
01:35 - About Tank 500
02:30 - Tank 500 Lux
03:30 - Pricing of Ultra
04:15 - Ultra Features
12:20 - Same engine!
13:00 - Worth extra 10%?
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Most the people I know who drive land cruisers have never driven them off-road in their entire life of owning the vehicles. The Tank 500 definitely looks like a luxury car in the same leagues as the land cruiser for half the price.
That's a good point mate. TLK 300 drivers are mostly either business owners, or wealthy retirees who simply grew up knowing that Toyota is the way to go and now that they need to haul their caravan around Australia - what can be better, if you have $150k loose change? 🤷♀️🙄 (yes, I'm openly jealous, but that's beside the point). Tank 500 should be diesel, otherwise, it's a great vehicle.
@@ValueCarsAU Diesel? Out dated technology. Who whats a diesel? GWM is not mad. They have never had a diesel engine. The PHEV version is MUCH MUCH better than this HEV one. The HEV version is not available in China, why? too outdated to be sold.
When looking at the T300 and the T500 we were persuaded considerably by having a better step height on the T500. We are in our mid sixties with hip and knee issues and having a vehicle that is easy to get into, is worth the extra spend. There is no comparing the two vehicles - chalk and cheese.
I'm actually changed my mind on the step matter - as my latest video shows - and I agree with you. If you have a little more cash to put towards a T500 with a step, it's absolutely worth it in your situation.
The soft closing door is one of the most appreciated feature by the chinese customers. I allow you to close the door without getting dirty with you cloth. The massage, heating and ventilation are almost standard for all chinese cars over $70,000.
Good to know
Sound system matters to me. Diff lock matters. Side step and massage seat is a bonus to me I would enjoy but not a big deal. I will see both of the models in the flesh and then wait to drive the new Prado too and most likely end up buying one of them. I find the Tank 500 exterior pretty ugly but love the inside, the features and the value.
Hey mate, I'm sure all this fluff + diff lock (real thing, sure) matters to a lot of people, statistically, otherwise they wouldn't be selling this model. I'm happy for you that you have some extra loose change to put towards added features as at the end of the day - money talks. You have it? You spend it.
Great video thanks mate. The lux definitely seems like the best option. Any ideas if you can fit 35's on the tank 500 without a lift?
I don't know for sure but would honestly doubt that 35s will turn well without a lift. They might "fit" but you'd have to drive straight, always... 🤷♀️🤣
I am not sure if the “soft closing tailgate” means electric suction door. I have also watched car review videos in mainland China. They said electric suction doors on each version. I have also checked the specs on Thailand GWM website. Electric suction door function also exists on base version. However, GWM Australia does not mention this function on their websites.
You might be right, but as the other viewers said - we'll have to wait and see once Tank 500 actually arrives in AU for us to take a look at. I don't think even dealers know what exactly Tank 500 comes with yet.
Should I look at the Tank 500 or wait for the Haval 9 2024 due some time this year?
Also what's your assumptions on the H9 costs
I don't know where in the world you are, but I don't think we're expecting Haval H9 in Australia. I could be wrong. No idea about the costs.
I can't find any info on range in parallel mode. Does it just run on ice mode after 100km??
That's my understanding but I haven't read any tech documents on this, only going by what the dealers said about Tank 300 HEV, and then we'll just need to wait for 500 to arrive before we can't conclude anything
Hi great video as usual mate , i personal think the biggest 😮is the fact this large vehicle is coming fitted with a 2ltr petrol im unaware if both trim levels are hybrid but i think the engine it needs is a v6 and a diesel in the lineup especially in Australia.
I'm amazed that they haven't learned from Tank 300 (which still sells well in Petrol but HEV is struggling, at least that's what I heard), and didn't give Tank 500 a diesel option.
Probably because Most Chinese car manufacturers dont have good diesel engines because they didnt spend much on developing a diesel engine. Because there is restriction to register a diesel car in a lot of big cities in China.@@ValueCarsAU
In GCC region the TANK 500 comes in with a v6 twin turbo with 9 speed transmission in ita base form & it a very very competitive drivetrain combination especially comparing it to the crazy prices of the Japanese competitors the hybrid is just getting to our shores & yet to be released so we're not sure how is it go5to be ..but we have an option with a full aize spare tire hanging on the tailgate.
Great insights, thank you as always
I don't know about the specs you are getting in Australia, here in the Middle East (Oman) the tank 500 comes with 3.0 V6 twin turbo with 348HP & 500Nm but still no news about the hybrid
V6 sounds great man! how much do they sell there for? In USD equivalent?
@ValueCarsAU the highest trim about $50,655 and the second $48,000 and lowest trim at $42,860 approximately
Hey mate, do you own it or know someone who does? I live in the UAE and am considering buying at a discount but am worried about reliability and resale value
@user-oe6fz6yl9y I don't own it but I already ordered tank 300. Here we have 10 years or 1 million km warranty for the engine and transmission and I test drove the cars so personally I'm convinced and willing to invest in the brand
I like your no BS approach
The base model is all most need, I would not pay the extra, the money saved could go towards some accessories who care used very often
Appreciate the comment, and yep, I have the same logic on the matter
I’m not sure if the lux includes the panoramic sunroof either, or electronic retractable 3rd row seats. I think there are other features also from watching tank 500 videos in Thailand who are the makers of the Australian version, I’m pretty sure. In all I think GWM Australia have not listed all the features or they still don’t know themselves 😂, or I’m just trying to justify the reason why I ordered the ultra. Always enjoying your videos Dimitri
I agree mate, I don't think GWM Australia know exactly what is included and only put up what the head office of GWM sent them as a preview brochure. I certainly will be taking a very close look at Tank 500 when it arrives. It's an interesting vehicle.
@@ValueCarsAU put it this way;
On the Gwm website you can book a test drive for the tank 500
So i booked one for yesterday,
Needless to say i never got a phone call 😂
What about panoramic sunroof? And can you tell me about the reliability of GWM? Can I keep the car for long?
It depends on what you do with the car - any car - obviously. In my experience and personal opinion, GWM is the most solid Chinese car in the Australian line-up of similar vehicles. Of course it's not Toyota, so let's not even go there...
@@ValueCarsAUthank you for your prompt reply. Toyota takes 2 years to deliver the car in Adelaide. Can’t wait that long! How do you reckon a petrol engine will do with this heavy vehicle? Diesel is more efficient..
Dimitri, do you think paying the extra $7K may translate to a better resale? If they are very off road capable and are half the price of a landcruiser then surely buyers in the 2nd hand market would like those extras as I assume the depreciation would fairly significant so even more attractive for the 2nd hand buyers? Thoughts
Good question mate, but I honestly don't think so. Perceived value is what it is on the market, and having an extra massage or a side-step wouldn't bump resale value by much - certainly not by 10% of the vehicle cost (or at least I don't think so...)
Totally worth it. I'll be placing an order for the Ultra. A Russian reviewer made the point the Tank 500 backseat is industry leading and far more comfortable than Lexus and Range Rover. The retractable side steps is a premium touch. I wish they offer 21 inch wheels as an option.
Like I said, it all depends on 2 factors - how much cash you have to throw at it, and if you need those extra features, e.g. seat comfort. To some it's worth extra 10% of the car value, plus, they have the money. In that case - why the hell not?
Is this vehicle up to towing decent size boats and caravans in view of the Engine size?
I think on technical specs and what would suit your needs you'd need to do further research
Like all the earlier comments; the Tank 500 misses the mark with such a piddly powertrain. If they can sell it in the Gulf, as mentioned below, with a decent powertrain, they could do it in Oz as well. People would definitely consider it then.
Maybe the issue is trying to get foreign buyers used to the underpowered options so they are ahead of the game with regards to fuel efficiency regulations. It won't work. A secondhand V8 Landcruiser will run rings around a 2 litre Tank 500 for not a huge amount of extra money. Plus value retention on Landcruiser is second to none.
This situation reminds me of (and only older viewers will remember!) when GMH launched the bargain bin VC Commodore with the Starfire 4 engine. Just like the UC Torana 4cyl beforehand this car was hopeless compared to the other decently powered, more expensive, Commodores and no one bought them. GMH had the sense to use, possibly the greatest motor ever, the Nissan 3.0l from the Skyline in the VL Commodore and that was a great car. The Skyline was even better, I loved my GTS back in the day....
So the takeaway is that the Tank 500 may be great value but if GWM later decides to bring in a decently powered version, which it seems exists, then anyone who buys the early 2 litre versions will be stuck with it for life because of the zero resale value. I hope no one buys them which forces GWM to bring in the GCC spec vehicle. Now that will be something special.
I agree that they've missed out on giving us a V6 and/or a Diesel. I disagree that an ancient V8 Landcruiser with a ton of kms on the clock would be better than a baseline Tank 500 (for most city dwellers). I think Tank 500 will be mega popular, in a similar segment but among its own - growing, if we look at the sales numbers - crowd.
Are you going to buy one Dimitri?
I'd consider if my money wasn't already in my brand new Subaru Outback mate.
I appreciate you’re down to earth, and accurate in my opinion, analysis of the extra seven features for the Ultra over the Lux. It is a beautiful car but what a shame it doesn’t have the diesel engine.
I think GWM is massively missing out by not giving us Diesel in Australia.
@@ValueCarsAU GWM never has a diesel engine. The Hi4-T is their answer, which was much better than the ANZ version. But even the Hi4-T is ancient technology compared to BYD DMO Fangchengbao. GWM Tank 500 is an old car now.
2L turbo for a big car , shame they don't offer v6 to Australians.
Massive shame mate. We could use a diesel for that extra 10% on top of the base price, I'm thinking.
I'm not interested in any Hybrid... will the Tank 500 only be available as Hybrid? I thought they were going to be available with a 2.4L engine (either diesel or petro) or a V6 3.0L engine. I was going to consider looking at it, but if only Hybrid is available, then I won't even put it as a consideration.
Not every product is for everyone, I guess
like tank 700, much much more
more than what? 🤷♀️
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Price will be around $60k cars all overpriced normal people can’t afford luxury cars
I'm not sure what are you saying here mate. We know what the price is, we aren't guessing. Tank 500 is definitely not overpriced for what it is.
2.0 petrol in something that big what a slugg it would be 70 plus k
Well, apparently it's not, as it's available overseas and we can rely on that info in the meantime. But I agree overall - it needs a V6 and a diesel.
180 kw is similar to a gu 4.8 patrol. Plus electric motor in the transmission to add more hp. Range is more the concern not power.
SLUG? It does 0-100 in less than 7 seconds real world testing! Prado is about 12 LOL
You have to know that the tank 500 is really a substandard offroader compared to BYD Bao5. And this pathetic version of HEV Tank 500, is not even available in China. Guess why, no one will pay 74000 for that.
You'll be surprised. Firstly, plenty of proof that Tank 500 is doing well (e.g. in Russia, even given their much harsher weather conditions). Secondly, we are not comparing Tank 500 to BYD here, in case you didn't notice. Stop trolling, you're giving Chinese contributors a bad name.
Dimitri , lol
What on earth are you talking about it .
Sound system is very fkning important .
Yes , you’re wrong .
You need to listen to better music in your life my brother .
Well, I'll respond in the same tone as your comment. Lol what are you talking about my brother, listen to good music at home in good headphones lol.... 🤷♀️ Lots of personal opinions. You heard mine. I heard yours. Agree to disagree.
As someone who is in the car more than out ( traveling long distances for work )
I appreciate decent sound system in the car .. I’d pay for that .
So yes of course brother I agree to disagree .
Anyway , I can’t wait to test drive one.
The tech in all its glory , is appealing to me .
@@ValueCarsAU even the base model sound system should be better than my 8yo Pajero speakers.Lux is good for me.most 4wd owner put seat covers anyway,so nappa or not.if the lux has a sunroof,just the snall one,it's def lux for me.
With all due respect, you don’t know what you’re talking about when it comes to the value of these features. Very much worth paying the extra for these features.
With all due respect, I (always) express how I feel about car features - this or any other. So if they are worth more to you, say it this way rather than suggesting that I'm wrong in how I value them.