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- Just wondering how many GS's fitted with the Road 6 Michelin tyres have a tendency to drift to the left. Tyre pressures are fine and indeed the bike handles really well with the R6's but the thing drifts to the left when I take my hands off the bars. Or is it just me? May be I will keep hands on the bars at all times!
Folk have said the R5's don't do this.....what tyres are good for spirited road riding and don't veer?
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Installed in a Kawasaki Z900RS. Also pulls to the left. I spent alot of time aligning the wheels with the string method, basicaly perfect alignment. Still pulls to the left.
Spanish 2023 Hornet 750 here 👋, fresh mounted Road 6s by a top shop (did 1000km in a couple of days) it pulls heavily to the left when hands off, didn't do it with the factory mounted Road 5s. That being said, I'm going to keep them because in absolutely every other scenario they are brilliant. No pull whatsoever when hand(s) on at any speed, from slow U-turns to [REDACTED] on the highway. Today went to my favourite twisties in Catalonia to test them at high lean angles and the bike goes on rails, so i see no danger whatsoever. Still pretty embarrassing coming from a huge brand like Michelin. Will try Roadsmart IVs next.
Thanks for taking time to post 👍
Same issue here. Put on road 6’s on my 2021 BMW 1250 gs and experience the pull to the left as well. The handling and feel of the tyre is great, but the pull is noticeable, especially with no hands on the handlebar. Precious tyres (although noticeably worn out) did have this. Not sure if its the tyre or the alignment. From all comments it looks like the tyre
Just got into the motorcycle life, I threw an road 5 for the rear on a used bike to get by and it was fine, threw a road 6 up front and my 14 cbr500 pulls left and to remotely balance handlebar free, I gotta lean right, for the first month I thought it was my newbie lack of skill but I came from an MTB background and can balance a bike no problem, I think its the tire honestly
When checking online forums, it's not an uncommon issue. Yeah, supposed to be a great tyre, but they do drift to a side. It's not an alignment issue, it's the tyre and the bike. It's why I haven't gone for them ... yet.
Rock solid flat out but I didn't let go !!!!
I have a 2022 GSA with Bridgestone Battlax A41 and it drifts to the left also 😮
I have 11,000kms on a pair of Road 6s on my 2021 Rallye GS. No problem with tracking. They will probably last around 13,000kms. Brilliant tyres!
Same problem here but never actually thought about it until i saw yet another great video here… no problem with the anekee’s
Yep. My 1200GS has the same issue. With previous tires (Anakee Adventures) it didn’t.
Using Tourance Next 2's , fabulous with no issues, hands off bars ...straight as 😁
Same problem. Yamaha Tracer 700, Road 6, brand new tires, front + rear.
Tried this out and hands off the bars it does drift to the left. Not sure why. The front tyre is below 3mm and wearing more on the right hand side edge. Michelin 6s. I don’t think it adversely affects the handling of the bike.
Hi Chris , nope it doesn’t , great tyre bit that veering just annoys me 🙈
Yes. I ride a 2023 suzuki vstrom 1050xt. Swapped out the oem A41s for these road 6s. It leans to the left. Thought it was a bike issue but it's the same for a buddy of mine on a 9GT.
Complain to the supplier, I did and got my money back. Toutance Next 2's are brilliant and track nice and straight.
Thanks "so much" for the video.
I was just about to buy new sneakers for my dear companion (Super Tenere 2020).
Actually she'd asked for a pair of A41s when I was searching for fresh T32s since I'm more biased to stay on-road.
Strangely everyone around was suggesting the Road 6s. The service, the dealers, Mr. G...
It made me suspicious somehow. And I've seen your post. And in the comments:
"They now know, and they'll fix it."
Wow!!! What about those who are affected?
Guess I'll listen to "her" and try and buy a pair of A41s if I can find something fresh...
I have the same experience with the 6's on my 1250gs. A pitty because the handling is perfect. I replace them for the Pirelli's scorpion trail 2 and the problem is almost solved. I think it is caused by the rotation direction of the engine. The 6s are more tensly of that matter
How slower you ride, the more the problem occurs
No issues withy Tourance Next 2's, which I believe are fitted as oem to the new 1300.
Yes, I had the same issue. I have pirelli Scorpion 2 now and they are excellent.
Got um on my GS out today on it so I’ll check and let you know, enjoy the rest of your trip 👍
That’s not the tires. It’s the torque reaction from the Boxer and shaft drive. My 2017 GS does that no matter what tires I’ve put on it: Metzler, Michelin and Dunlop.
Just keep your body upright and let the bike move side to side underneath you. The bike will rock side to side as you roll on and off the throttle. That’s how the boxer is meant to be ridden. It’s kinda like a passive type of counterbalancing.
Thanks for the input, I have ridden others that don't do it!🙈
Same issue for me , I just put Road 6 , front and back, Yamaha Tracer 9GT model 2021. Tires have DOT 1124 , made in Spain. With the previous tires , Bridejestone Battalx T32 , no issues. Will try to return them on waranty.
Thanks for sharing
Same problem, but the bike has always done it, even when I had the stock tyres. It’s a 23 model. Now I have Road 6 tyres and it still leans left a little
No issues so far with my replacement tyres to the 6's. The Next 2"s, straight as an arrow.😁
‘23 GS, swapped the OEM for Road 6, same exact issue. Michelin claims they’ve never heard of this.
The same here in Brazil with my V-strom 650. I bougth the R6 set yesterday and notice this issue as soom as I Ieft the dealer shop. Thinking if I will ask for my money back or live with that until the next tyre change. Not a big deal, but Michelin dropped the ball.
A bit annoying but a very good tyre .
My 97 RS 1100 does drift to the left I put it down to the characteristic Boxer twin,can’t fault the Road 6s their fantastic and I’ve been in some horrendous weather conditions so I can live with it👌
At tyre repair shop now- they say this is common with most heavy adventure bikes spending most time on uk roads (camber to left). The right side wears quicker! Solution: have a nice adventure holiday in Eorope! Also I get frequent slow punctures in rear tyre. Told that sticky tyre compound collects flint etc at front tyre which flips it back to the rear. Probably buy Bridgestone next time.
Thanks for sharing . I am well practised in roadside plug and go things 🙈
Happens here in The Netherlands as well!
Street triple user here. Same damn issue, never had that with S22’s
🙈 Something is not quite right , I have the Tourance Next 2's now and the bike goes straight !!!
Mine does exactly the same. I'm on 23k miles. Road 6s. I've had bmw check it out and they say it's fine
Changed mine to Metzelers Next 2, will take the bike out tonight and see what happens.
It happened to me back in 2017 with the GSA. I had the OEM Michelin Anakee 3 at that time. I did not get myself bothered since there was nothing wrong with the bike or the tire.
My tyreshop advised me not to take the Road 6 on the GS. The GS is too heavy, especially for the front Tire. They advised me to take the Metzeler Tourance Next 2. Very happy with them.
Thanks for sharing. Does it drift to the left hands off????
@@gsd32i never experienced that with the Metzeler tyres.
I’m on a 1200gsa with a fresh pair of Road 6’s and they do exactly the same. However I find the lack of road noise and great handling characteristics make up for the hands free counter lean task
Road noise is why I quickly dumped the oem tyres at 1st service . Road 6’s are very grippy 👍Apparently the road 5’s are fine 🙈
I’m thinking it’s down to the eccentric loading characteristics of the bike, through the engine and exhaust positioning?
It's not a problem limited to BMW's. I ride a '14 V-Strom 1000 and I had the exact same problem with the Road 6 tires.
2023 GSA tracked straight with OEM tires. put the Road 6 on at 3000 miles, and the exact same problem you’re having.
I am very curious to know what Michelin would give us as an explanation for this…mystery. I have a GS 1250 2022 with Battlax a41 and will switch to Michelin road 6. Marc, Quebec, Canada 🇨🇦😉🏍
Does it go to the left with the A41's
@@gsd32i I don’t know, I will have to try it when our season begins here in Quebec in May. This is the first time I hear someone mention this situation and believe me I have seen many videos on youtube about the GS. Carl never mentioned this on Just the way it is. If I am right, you live on the Isle of Jersey close to France 🇫🇷
Anxious to see your episodes in Normandie. I visited these beaches with my wife and two sons in 2006. Pointe du hoc was very fascinating and poignant. Nice to chat with you my friend. Cheers, ride safe! 😉🏍
@@marcfalardeau6058 Hi Marc, i have just got back home from France and have got loads of video to put together to come up with a watchable video. Amazing trip...stay tuned. pointe du hoc was heavily fenced so you had to stay on the paths, with areas also closed due to cliff erosion and public safety.😎
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Yeah, same here. Tiger 800 XRX, just put new Road 6's on and I have the same left pull. Steering to the right also feels like it requires more effort. I don't like it at all. My old Scorpion Trails 2 had 1mm of squared off tread left and they rode better than this. Just ordered a Metzeler Roadtec 01 to pair with the rear Road 6 because they seem somewhat similar and i don't wanna shelf a brand new rear tire. No more Michelins for me though, they disqualified themselves with this garbage tire.
Back from a couple of tours on my 2022 GS and at 4700 miles the left front side of my Michelin Adventure are worn out…. moving to Metzer tourance I think…… but these tyre manufacturers always say 20% extra mileage out of our “new tyres “ but it’s always been 6000k for a rear for last 30 years 🤷♂️……. now latest can’t even make 5k !!!!
Hello!!! I will be the owner of a brand new GS in the next few days... As far as I know, GS's have the tendency to tilt left as you rev up the boxer engine... Maybe this is the reason.... I have the same problem but on the opposite side with my 2019 Yamaha Tracer 900 GT, from the beginning, until now...I've changed 3 sets of tyres until now and no one found something wrong
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Absolutely right!
Had the same problem with the Pirelli Scorpion on the Multistrada. Don't think it's a problem with the tyre or bike itself, but the one individual set of tyres.
Had the same problem on my xt1200 with the road 6, pulled to the left. Now i fitted michelin anakee adventure and starting with 165 kph the tires vibrate to the point i cant see trough my visor. Other then that the tires are amazing
I installed the road 6 on the 2019 gs 1250 adventure and it also has a tendency to pull to the left when I take my hands off. Apart from that the tire is great
I have the same problem with my Tenere 1200, road 6 vehicle.
I had a 23 RT came on RD5GT’s no issues , swapped for RD6GT’s yup pull to the left too. I’ve just swapped RT for a GSA ( couldn’t get on with th RT) it’s on the Horrible A41’s (hate the things) just ordered some RD6’s even though bike has 350 miles on it will be interesting to see if it pulls to the left too.🏍️🎉👍🤓
Thanks for posting👍
Undo your pinch bolts on the forks, load the front up, retighten the pinch bolts, fixed.
If only . It was one of the first things I tried . 🙈
My VFR800 2002 pulls to the left with hands off since I fitted Road 6s, Never happened on Road 4 or 5s, although they are still a great tyre
Lots of folk seem to have this issue🤔None with my new tyres(different brand now, straight as an arrow)
Hi GSD, Here's the question for you, if you had option to choose next set would you stick with Road 6 ?? My A41's are just about toast and looking to get Road 6 for daily commute and weekend scratch etc.. just need a good road tyre especially in wet winter months.. What's your thoughts.?? Cheers!!!
great question. lots of folk are happy with the road 6, but mine just steered to the near side slightly on my GS. Tourance next 2’s are very nice but haven’t done much time on the GS since I got the triumph speed twin. tyres as you know are somewhat of a dividing topic amongst is motorcyclists …..I just wanted to try something else as I did have that issue…but they are/were a great tyre on the gs as you can see when I took it to France and spanked the bike in one of the videos. I think I was just unlucky with mine……not sure that the reply helps🙈
@@gsd32i so in short if you had a choice again would the slight pull put you of the road 6 , or 1would you happily offset the pull against quiet happy mileage .. I wont hold you to it , but you seem an up front guy with honest opinion .. so what's the verdict . 👍 Buy again or not ??
@@bully8711 i did spank the road 6s and I would buy them again as they never gave me any worries when I was on it 🤪
@@gsd32iwas hoping you would say that.. mind.made up 6,s it is .. cheers
I had Michelin Road 5’s on my GS, no issues at all.
Just on 8,000 on Road 6's on my GS. No problems at all, brilliant tyres.
Have you gone hands free ?
@@gsd32i No, I never ride hands free so it's not something which would be an issue for me even if it was there; too many pot holes and other crap road surfaces to try it. I'll try and find a smooth bit of tarmac to experiment...
@@adrianleach1670 you’ll know within a millisecond it will drift straight away . On a positive note the 6’s work well flat out 👍they’re a fab tyre but have that strange thing going on 🙈
2019 R1250gs had Anakee 3’s from new , replaced with Bridgestone Battleaxe A41’s without any veering to the left issue’s
Now have Michelin P6’s and like you say if you take your hands off of the bars, bike veers to the left
Contacted rep for Michelin motorcycle tyres and was told he was unaware of any problems with them to date
Apparently they are aware from one of the comments 🙈 it’s a great tyre …
The same to me,varadero 1000,and I don’t feel them stable when I am going straight
Also have a 1250GS, 2021 model. Had the OEM tyres, changed to Road 6, now on 12,000 miles with no issues at all. Tracking, stability, grip are all great. Brilliant tyres. Hope you find the problem, let us know what happens please.
Michelin have been brilliant to be honest, they have asked me to visit and Michelin dealership and they will check them and replace if needed ? So I will keep you informed .
Just heard from my tire dealer that Michelin has adjusted the tires. He heard this last week during a Michelin trip to Portugal. So they do know about it.
It’s not your GS. I put a set on my 2023 Hayabusa at about 3000 miles and from day one I have the same problem. It pulls to the left when I take my hands off the bars.
After installing Michelin Road 6 I imediatly notice the drift to the left, the second pair of tires, the same issue, great tires, but this issue...😢
Hi Adrian. Take them back to the supply and they can make a claim against Michelin. This is what I did and got my money back. I now have the Metzeler Next 2's and are a fabulous tyre..no drift to the left whatsoever. Shame with the Road 6's as they were a great tyre. Just didn't like the fact that I couldn't take my hands off the bars without it drifting. Obviously when safe to do so!
I've got the exact same issue however my bike is a Honda NC750X
Have you got panniers on? Weight distribution will cause this. But can’t comment if it is happening when the bikes not loaded
No just top box and the bikes does it with just me on it and nothing else.Great tyres . 🙈
Have road 6 on my 2021 gsa with no tracking issues bud.
Omg omg omg my gsa 2021
Has the same problem, I’ve striped all the bags , tools etc and she’s still pulling to the left ! I’m shocked
Experiencing the same problem with the road 6s on my 22' 1250 gs. I switched from the OEM tires at the 6k service and I'm about 200 miles on road 6s. I went to 2 BMW dealers in NJ/PA area and they said everything looks fine but they did suggest to switch tire manufacturer. Almost like they've seen this before but wouldn't admit it.
I'll be purchasing new tires soon and will update if the issue went away. First and last time buying Michelins.
I will say they have good grip and are much quieter than OEM tires. I just can't overlook this issue for next 6k+ miles.
Just switched to Metzeler Tourance Next 2...100 miles in and a very happy chap.
@@gsd32i Great to hear! I'll look into them. I was leaning towards the Dunlop mutants. Continental TA3s was my first choice before Michelin but they're hard to find right now
Update: switched to the Dunlop mutants. About 100 miles in and the bike is back to its former self! No left tracking issues. I'm impressed with the mutants so far
@@gutsyguy0 Yup I am at 100 miles on my new Tourance Next 2's and no issues, hands off the bars.....tracks straight as 👍
i have the same issue with multistrada 4vs also noise around 120 km/h
I have just installed road 6s, on my 2018 GSA and the bike is drifting to the left. Did not have the same issue with my anakee 3 and I was paying attention prior as I had seen this video before removing the Anakees. Would be interesting if this will eventually go away!
They are great tyre but annoying that they drift left. 🙈
Maybe try experimenting with different pressures?
Do you use Michelin Road 6 or Road 6 GT version? BMW GS is heavy bike, so you need GT version. Maybe thats is the problem.
No, its the standard 6, don't load the bike like you see for people going around the world🙈
1250gs 2023 , Bridgestone A41S DOES EXACTLY THE SAME...
does it still do this if you move your butt to the right a bit? there's also that wiggle thing you got to do whenever you put the wheel back on the fork, while applying the brake and jumping on the suspension and only then then tighten the final screws, did they do that at the tyre shop where you got them fitted?
Done all that 🙈
@@gsd32i damn...
Yes, mine do drift to the left. I don't know why?
Same issue with road gt on vfr1200f..
I am very happy with my Conti Trail 3's, 2nd set, a lot quieter than Anakee's and good grip wet or dry!
Good to hear!
Could it be gyroscopic precession? I have found a number (all?) of my bikes over the years slightly drift to the left, if I let go of the handlebars and do not correct with my body weight.
Can’t say I have noticed it on my other bikes . My KTM 890r runs straight as an arrow , but it’s a lot lighter!
@@gsd32i After your comment, I tried it on my '23 R1250GS with it's OE Bridgestone A41's (2,500miles), tracked straight as a die! My '02 Fazer Thou' drifts to the left unless corrected with my weight to the right with it's Road 6's, but then it did as far as I remember with all it's tyres over my 21 year ownership.
Did you fit the GT version of the road 6 to your GS or just the standard tyre
Standard ones, I travel light.
My r1250 gsa stock tyre (anakee adventure) got same issue but mine drift to the right lol
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Do you ride in Australia or New Zealand?
my 2021 gsa with road 6s on drift to the left
My yamaha xt1200z super tenere does exactly the same
I'm going to test if there is a problem with the tyres. I have a friends T12 here with a Metzeler Tourance exp tyre on the front. This bike tracks perfectly. Im going to swap wheels with my bike that has the Michelin Road 6 tyres that pulls hard to the left and see what happens. If it doesn't pull after changing the wheels I'm going to claim them faulty and ask for a refund.
No problem on my 2017 gs
I had the same thing happen with the road 6 on my H2sx.
Any difference with replacement tyre ?
@@gsd32i I have sold the H2SX and am currently waiting to collect the BMW 1250gsa triple black ⚫️
@@johng9341 Enjoy👍
Can’t say I’ve noticed
Could it have been you screwing with the brakes after all your always adding subtracting modifying constantly :) Just a thought as I have found sometimes in my older years I am around your age quit dicking with things you have less issues. My KTM 890R like you have tracks like an arrow but these issues are always difficult to solve.
Hi. Nope don't think so. Yes always screwing around to make content etc🙈Either way its a great tyre but just annoying that it does that. Ride safe and enjoy the 890R , I think I will offload mine, just don't use it as the GS is my go to bike now.🤪
Dealer told me Michelin know all about the problem.
Report of the same issue on other bikes Super Tenere for one.
Wearing R6's?
In the southern hemisphere they drift to the right. Think about it.
Wow …. 😀👍
Is your right leg bigger than your left?
Possibly 😂
@@gsd32i Do you dress to the left or right?
@@fuglbird Niether now
I never had a problem with my Road5s ??
Boxer engine
Yep - A really WIERED problem to have!!
But - I believe it is NOTHING to do with Tyre Makes at all!!!
I believe we may all have this problem, to a lesser or greater degree? It's just that we've never noticed it before!
When I ride my Bicycle, with NO Hands - The bike leans slightly to the Left!
When I ride my XTZ660, with NO Hands - The bike leans Slightly to the Left!!
- Over 5 different makes & types of Tyres fitted!
When I ride my BMW (R1200GSA), with NO Hands - The bike leans slightly to the Left!!!
- Stock tyres AND Michelin Anakee Wild (50/50) tyres!
So - The common denominator here is NOT the Bike, NOT the Tyres, but ME!!!!
Nothing to do with the MAKE of a Tyre!!
Nothing to do with WHAT we are riding!!
Extremely unlikely to be the seating of the tyre bead on the rim??
Personally, I believe it's to do with our Skeletal makeup, or bias...
- We ALL have one leg slightly longer than the other (maybe only a fraction of a mm - But it's there)
- This in turn, leads to slight imbalance in the hips & Joints?
- This then leads to our upper torso compensating slightly
- And maybe even our Inner-Ear balancing system 'Prorammed' for our Slight 'Tilt'
Under NORMAL situations (Sitting, Walking, Running) we will NEVER notice this difference.
- Though if you take a look at Olympic Athletes, they have these errors(?) corrected by Physio & Orthopeadics!
However, as soon as you have a Great Big Flyweel spinning away, any 'Slight' imbalance it exagerated 100x or more.
- So, All to do with physics!
As for this video...
This chap may well have had that problem with the previous tyre?
- He just did NOT notice it!!
- Maybe due to tyre weights, flywheel effect, who knows.
But, I can almost guarantee, that if/when he refits the old tyres back..
- He'll then notice a very slight bias!!
Added to the above, may be the issue of Road Camber??
But for ME, the Camber angle (UK/France) makes NO difference.
- Bike leans to the Left, whether I ride in the UK or France.
- There may(?) be a slight difference in the lean-angle - But I've never really noticed this.
In conclusion...
This effect ONLY happens when you are riding with NO HANDS!!!
So - There is a Very EASY Solution to this non-problem ;-)
#TravellingWizzard
Good effort . 👍
Seems like you euros have a couple of choices to make...Do you want cheap tires made in China by low paid Chinese or do you want expensive tires made in Europe by low paid Africans?