Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (Nov 3, 1993 prototype) - Walkthrough
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This build of Sonic the Hedgehog 3 is dated November 3rd, 1993, and was made at a time where the game was starting to be split into two separate games. This prototype is in a very unfinished state, though it contains a number of interesting things, including an early version of Flying Battery Zone, early sprites and different music that would later be repurposed for the Sonic & Knuckles Collection on PC.
It was released on November 16, 2019 as the finale of Hidden Palace's Sonic Month.
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When I saw Drop Dash in this... Oh my...
How?
This very very stranger
Proche skazat ia yhyel
What?????
OMG, the future is the past!
Press up while jumping.
13:27 Spike be like: "I must go now, my planet needs me!"
Nekro Yowane He’s done his job in attempting to defeat Sonic... he may go to where hes most needed.
*The Moon plays in the background.*
Spike died on the way back to his home planet
*CHANGE THE WORLD MY FINAL MESSAGE GOODBYE*
"the spikes died on their way back to their home planet"
*Sonic arrives at Angel Island*
Knuckles: Where my money at?
Ey sonic remember that time that i gave you 20 bucks for chilli dogs?
Where are they now?
Where my emeralds at?
Knuckles:WHERE MY SANDWICH AT?
@Redz Of The Ultra-Kards YOU STORED MY SANDWICH?ARRRRRRR!AAA!
oh
no
Sega: All new drop dash!
Sonic 3 prototype: you took everything from me!
Sonic Mania: I don’t even know who you are
They did the same with ray and mighty!
Sonic Mania: The day the great Christian Whitehead took your beta features was the most important day of your existence. But for me, it was Tuesday.
S3 Prototype: You will...
@@RomuloTheBrazilian he said that it was mere coincidence.
The "Drop-Dash" in this beta was not even intended to really exist.
WDG
Until someone found out that it was intentionally coded in. P:
1:08
Knuckles tried to be diplomatic in the prototype.
Sonic CD V.0.0.2: I'm going to surprise everyone with Salad Plain Past song.
Sonic 3 Nov 3, 1993: Hold my beer.
Seriously tho', this protoype just got a lot of unexpecting things, like: Knuckles' never seen sprites that (looks like a lot in Sonic 2's style), the fucking Sonic & Knuckles Collection music are actually originally from Sonic 3 before Michael Jackson and the most unexpected one: THE "DROP-DASH" -- Like, what the actual fuck? I'm really surpreise how SEGA can hide a lot of secrets over those 20 years.
This is so damn surreal.
It is Sonic 2 style, sadly got the Sonic 3 finishing touches
@maltese 84 I've always wished Sonic 3 had a 1993 release date. It's more fitting.
@trey the Allanker who ever cursed in this single conversation dumb troll
@trey the Allanker
If you think we're not going to swear because of you, fuck right off. It's people like you (and most likely, your parents) that are ruining this site with that new complying even more with COPPA shit. You shouldn't even be allowed to be online without supervision at such a young age.
Makes me wonder what prototypes of the adventure games were like
Ie: who'd replace tails in the hero side mechs?
44:28 Sonic the Hedgehog 3 Special Stage Theme [Official Music Video]
Benditø That almost looks like the After Burner 2 logo.
This is an Fake Special Stage, then Download Here: drive.google.com/file/d/1Lsg5wktx-gouSMjoQedcCVZbdlLANlkq
This Complete Edition Have Special Stage form Final Build Of Sonic 3!
Phaulo Riquelme how is it fake
Special Stage Snares
Sonic 3 Prototype: Normal Snare
Sonic 3 Final Game: Special Stage Snare
We're still missing the Tokyo Toy Show demo of Sonic 1!!!
And a version of Sonic CD with the “R2” level if such a thing exists
ElixirSoup If SEGA only knew that Toy show demo was found somewhere in one of the old places.
@Sir AZ I think there's this prototype with a giant ball in Green Hill Zone.
You know how rare that copy is? I've researched and researched, I've found nothing over anything or any website. You could barely find videos of it
Tell me someone else remembers the original release of Sonic 1 that you could rack up a 250k bonus score if you cleared the stage in 30 seconds or less.
All that comes to mind watching this is “Cybershell, please come back”
gotta wait nine years for that
I mean, it’s been around 2 years now so maybe only 7 more years?
This prototype better be in the Sonic 3 bonus video.
@Redz Of The Ultra-Kards Fairly prolific Sonic focused TH-camr. Hes suddenly dropped off the face of the internet since last year.
@Redz Of The Ultra-Kards bruh
I think we’ve just experienced another Simon Wai, folks. Now all we need is one of those elusive Sonic 1 prototypes and my life’s complete!
Edit 01/01/2021: My life is now complete, cya.
Only one problem, Sega says that the prototype is lost. I doubt that it will ever be found.
@SonicSuperFan eaten*
@FruitcakeDog: THIS.
@@BuzzsawtheHedgehog: It's probably hidden in the safe at the mansion of the former scourge of Sega of America, Bernie Stolar.
@@Loader2K1 More like Tom Kalinske, since he was very involved in the final development phases as he wanted Sonic to be more suitable for Western audiences.
Im so suprised when i see that drop dash, is strange they didn't put in in the final project :(
It's because it's most likely a bug and functions nothing like the actual drop dash.
Oh!
@@pixelcat_yt Someone on Retro looked into that. It's definitely a legit move
@@herrice3227 is it the super sonic thing or something else?
@@pixelcat_yt I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean?
Sonic 3's Drop Dash is a proper move, all deliberately coded and everything. Are you referring to Hyper Sonic's airdash? Cos that is in the code too but is only accessible via hacking
6:17 Hey, that's the PC Version of Knuckles Theme!
@Team Beep whats wrong with that?
@Team Beep there is nothing wrong with the PC version in my opinion. It's just using old themes in a different sound font.
I play sonic 3 air.
I never thought i would see myself on a fan game lol
Prototype
Composition
@No 6:18 THE VERY BEST ANIME BATTLE MUSIC!
I won’t lie when I saw the spike enemy of Marble Garden fly straight upwards I may have laughed, I didn’t expect that.
. . . _a s c e n d_ . . .
I must go now. my planet needs me.
14:20
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Now all we need regarding Sonic 3 is a prototype that was early enough to be before the split was made, as this one is mid split
based on what Hidden Palace wrote about how Sega handled protos for this game we may never find an older build
Hopefully one with Sonic 2 leftovers like the Nick Arcade Prototype.
Unfortunately, that older build once was right underneath this build. On the last part of the rom there was data for a Lava Reef Zone.
It's like an old VHS tape. The newer recording was taped over the old one, but when the new recording was done, the end of the old one popped up from underneath. 😅
Still a possibility another copy exists.
@@KingdomHeartsFan-mu9cf There's also the possibility Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
But making it fact is a whole different ballgame. It only took these guys, what, 26 years to find this one proto? Sure. They'll scoop up another in no time.
This is a historic moment in the Sonic scene ever!
Ronald Portes English?
@@garfeltrealtbh ok milliniuem kid
@T0X1C VVA5TE nope.
@@garfeltrealtbh You know what he meant, no need to be a dick. English probably isn't his first language
@@garfeltrealtbh 🤓
I really love how the water in hydrocity act 1 has a 3D perspective.
This happens in the final too, as well as in the final LBZ, although it's not nearly as jarring.
it's a little glitched in this build though
@@Selicre what zone is lbz?
Its extremely epic in the sonic mania version of this zone.
@@Klotzy4433 Launch Base.
At least we need the **cough** **Caugh** Sonic 1 TTS 1991 prototype **Caugh** **caugh**
Damn it would be so awesome
*TTS 1990, also that one's lost
@@callmeninaiced It's lost now, but that doesn't mean we won't find it.
Interesting fact: the TTS 1990 sonic 1 demo was planned to appear in sonic mega collection
@@kuribirdie drx (the mastermind behind the major Sonic prototype releases) has been searching for ages and really doesn't expect to find something juicy for Sonic 1
And things if this weren't released:
Then people wouldn't know that Sonic 3's development was as interesting as Sonic 2's.
Also, we would never see an offical Sonic 2 Knuckles sprite.
Lots of games have intriguing developments, and Sonic 3's have been discussed publicly. They started making an isometric game with a polygonal Sonic but dialed down the ambition and went with another 2D sidescroller.
@@protocetid Sonic 3 was built on Sonic 2 though.
@@hcbs1986 Yeah, after they decided to go the 2D route. Wikipedia has a quality section on how Sonic 3 was made on the game's page with citations included.
@@protocetid Sonic 3D Blast was the intended Sonic 3 at first?
@@ikagura No, 3D Blast was a different project by a British studio but it was inspired by Sonic Team's original S3 experiments.
Wow, this is just amazing.
The Drop Dash concept originally came from this prototype, as well as the music used in the Sonic & Knuckles Collection version. Great find.
Not really, even Taxman said that it was a HUGE coincidence, saying that the function of the "Drop-Dash" in this Beta should have done something... different (Insta-Shield?)
@@wdg2384 Well, the only reason I said this is because it LOOKS very similar to the move used in Mania. Whether this was going to be used or not, we never know. But I'm just amazed with all the unused content of this prototype, it's been sending shockwaves all across the Sonic community as of late.
The reason why the "sonic & knuckles collection version" music was played here was that they had already made the music before Michael Jackson came in as producer.
Things I like about this:
Unused sprites being used.
Tails dieing on his way down to hydrocity.
The drop dash was meant to be in this game.
The weird sounds that play that were never used.
That the "PC Music" was supposed to be the original music
The fact Doing goes "OH..
my... GOD :O" when results appear.
Knuckles looking like he wants your money in the intro.
“Dying”?
The Drop Dash was meant to be in this game?
I'm pretty sure the drop dash was just a bug that was a coincidence
@@cosmicalize they are on to us
@@cosmicalizethey were actually codes but scrapped for idk
6:17 notice how knuckles uses his final sprites here.
Knuckles: YOU SHALL NOT PASS 🤚🚫
Wow this is a big discovery in the Sonic's franchise, all we have to do is find that legendary mysterious Sonic 1 prototype.
facts
Knuckles: COME'ERE BOI
Tokyo Toy Show prototype eh well that would be pretty spectacular but I would like for a CES prototype to leak instead since it has a lot more content than the Tokyo Toy Show Prototype.
@@-PV- CES prototype? Is it that version with almost finished Green Hill Zone and UFOs of the Marble Zone?
@@annsky1896 Well I believe that various builds of Sonic 1 have been showcased on ces and of course the one most remember is the almost finished GHZ with ball in the level and UFOs being in Marble Zone but there is one more version that springs into my mind that has Sonics physics 88% complete and a quarter of the way complete GHZ with a completely different layout and also robotnik monitors plus pink sunflower seeds just look up CES Sonic 1 proto and you will find footage of it
i even dont know why, but i still watching this in plenty 2021, i love this prototype, sounds, engine, s2 sprites..
This rendition of Carnival Night Zone has to be my favorite version by far.
2:02 - 2:20 Remember when people thought the happy music should only be reserved for Angel Island Zone act 1? Well this paints a different picture.
thank music restart for that it’s actually still in the final s3 alone believe it or not
Nobody:
Tails somewhere offscreen for no reason: HMMMMMMMMMMMM
nobody:
normal comment: *"boring"*
you: *adds nobody*
nobody comment: *BEST THJNNG INCTHE EORLD*
12:07 LOL knuckles
It's has been revealed that sonic & knuckles collection music was originally from this prototype
Ok so is the story now that when Micheal Jackson showed interest in composing for the game, him and Brad Buxer made a few tracks that replaced the original tracks, but for the PC release they used the original intended tracks?
@dampest noodle It seems that way. Scirocco who was one of the composers in MJ's team reckons he composed the beta track to Hydrocity Zone but couldn't let it out to the public due to legal reasons, we now know in fact that it is the same track that remained in the final and it wasn't even composed by him, it was composed by Masayuki Nagao according to reference, it's not even a PC track so the guy is talking shit just llike Brad Buxer did in 2009. I wish MJ and Brad Buxer never interfered with Sonic 3, their music was horrible and we now have proof that their music wasn't the original.
@@Oysterblade84 Idk launch base zone kinda slaps. Don't forget about Act 1 boss music too
Maybe they started working on the PC version alongside the genesis one?
ベベルワベル
Ice Cap is an iconic song too.
Because the midi format of the pc version couldn't handle the various sound clips of the used tracks, such as the vocals and the glass shattering sounds.
12:06 gotta love that blue knuckles over There
So... Wechidna, And now bluechidna?
Bro just goes through the frickin wall
I'm so glad they changed the Sonic sprites
They're so much more expressive in the final game
They really could've kept them this way if they wanted to
6:20-6:27 You can just feel how done with Knuckle's BS Sonic is already...
13:08 that sound though xD
Tthe sound driver in this build is broken beyond belief
bwuuuuhrp
Negative Jump
Sounds like an earthbound sound
Bwoop
0:15 me on my way home
Nobody:
Flying Battery Zone: *AAAAAAAAAAAAA*
Another Sonic 3 prototype? This one has the Sonic 2 sprites! Very cool!
This is real? It was just discovered and rom dumped? Wild
This is epic.
You mean wow such epic
3:20 Sonic's scared that he just beat the level!
Everyones talking about the drop dash and music, but how about that hanging sonic animation? Great right?
Yep!
I see they wanted to improve the Sonic 2 feel onto this game.
@@theimperfectgod7140 they should've kept it, at least the character design
Reminds me of Sonic Adventure for some reason.
@@Hoaxcast that's most likely why they changed it lol
Sonic 3 : 39:46
Me : *Waits for someone to crop those Knuckles and Extra Sonic Sprites*
TIL that the songs we know from the PC version were originally gonna be in the Genesis version to begin with....
What if we converted it into a Genesis cartridge and connected it to Sonic & Knuckles?
Please get that comment to the top!
You know, I wouldn't mind seeing this, either.
@@MrConnman123 and then u get to play blue spheres
"NO WAY", This is what we got.
42:44
"OH NO."
Funfact.
One of early Sonic 3 versions looked like Sonic 3D: Flickies Island. Do you know something about it?
Originally Sonic 3 was going to be made as an isometric game because of the early rise of 3D popularity among consumers. However it was scratched and the original engine was left for 3D Flickies Island.
@Maycon Cruz plus, they didn't have enough time. Sega already made a McDonald's tie-in scheduled so they had to make the game by February 1994
1:47 drop dash??? :O
decemberhead I don't know why it was removed
theqbash some clown at Sega probably thought the insta shield was cooler. I hope that individual was fired
Mm.. No, Looks like a glitch.
@@decemberhead2106 insta shield is much more reliable in my opinion but opinion is opinion
No. December head is correct. It is in fact a drop dash. Look up, and hold up and a. When u land, boom, drop dash!
God, I wonder if there are more knuckles sprites like the ones we see at the begining of angel island zone. Especially because I actually pefer beta style knuckles than the one we got in the retail release.
Drop Dash was an inside job this entire time lol.
This is insane
We have the Sonic Trailer, and a lot of prototypes.
WE SONIC FANS EATING GOOD
Hydrocity still has grass in the level select icon.
The level select uses the images from Sonic 2's level select. That's Aquatic Ruin Zone.
@@coqito583 i mean the one from the final game.
I just checked the sprite and it really does. And, that's kinda spooky because I've been playing Sonic 3 nearly all my life and never noticed this oddity.
They never fixed Tails' running pattern at the end of AIZ Act 2 😄
Sonic: everyone that wanted a sonic redesign
Knuckles:Paramount after redesining sonic
Sonic's "swinging" animation was pretty jank though. If anything had to change from the prototype, I'm glad it was that.
I thought the 5th frame where sonic is looking to his side was pretty cool though
*BEEP*
*BUUEP*
That unused Knuckles sprite is really good. I wish he looked like that in the final.
What will happen if you try to enter Mushroom Valley or Sandopolis? Are those slots blocked or the game will crash?
They're blocked. Apparently, there straight up isn't data for them in the rom, so even if you cheated to enter them, the game would crash.
Some of the prototype music sounds like something from Ristar...
You re right
But ristar was inspired by sonic
7:55 omg the souds o/_\o
Sounds weird...
This is amazing. Looks like at this point they still intended to release the full game. The decision to split the game into 2 parts must of happend literally days after this build so they could have enough time to polish Part 1 in time for release. Does anyone know the lead time for manufacturing of the cartridges and if so any guesses as to how much time they would of had before getting the cart out for production?
Actually it was before
Don't mind knuckles's colors just don't pause as soon as you approach 12:07
Its blue knux
I love the 3D style water in hydrocity zone.
Wow! Sonic 3 had the drop dash 25 years before Mania and none of us were the wiser. Also that sonic sprite for being airlifted is amazing. They should’ve kept it.
Gotta love finding these gaming fossils that reveal new findings.
THIS IS AWESOME.
0:25 C'mon, Sonic. Give me your Smart Phone
We need Tiddles back for a more complete game again.
Apollo Grimoire Yeah, and update the beta tracks abit.
Apollo Grimoire Sonic 3 Complete with beta features actually sounds dope
And add Drop Dash from Mania. As a bonus.
Now the team of sonic AIR and sonic 3C need to work again and use everything can be used on this prototype.
I like how sometimes when Sonic jumps instead of "woeeepp" it goes "wooo"
Cybershell come back in 2024 with the Sonic 3 bonus video
Офигеть. Этот прототип ооочень крутой. Он дал много ответов на вопросы, которые пять лет назад нельзя было решить. Когда я увидел бонусный уровень и эти красные сферы я просто охренел, тогда везде на сайтах они были и про них писали что они были для теста и тут они прям показались в игре. Мое почтение тем людям, которые достали этот прототип.
I’d like to think that Knuckles didn’t stole the Chaos Emeralds bc this was based on a what if Sonic 2 Bad Ending, where Sonic didn’t got any emerald…
1:47 drop dash
Awesome find! Too bad Flying Battery Zone was off limits due to it being incomplete. Can Debug Mode be enabled?
Yes it can.
Yes it can and FBZ Is Playable. Act 1 has its boss fight, though I think it needs a bit of cheating to get there. not sure on Act 2
Same for the Act 2
Hidden Palace: ...
Razor:
3 hours later...
ｈｅｈｅ
18:03 to 18:07 Razor and Zenon try to make Sonic move in the rhythm of the music but fail and hit against an awful obstacle
39:18 When Knuckles spawns everything becomes a mess?
Probably some error with loading the tiles
0:00 Sonic.EXE in Logo
It's not Sonic.exe, It's Bugged Sonic!
He’s glitched
imagine replacing drop dash with insta-shield
what an odd decision
Levels weren't designed around the drop dash,.In my opinion, it along with the ring toss were cut from the game so it was not too easy.
0:00 put 0.25 speed
Sonic.exe confirmed
@@KGR7Gamer no a glitched sprite
@@Somonyo he's joking
@@nytronochrome well ya never know with people
It’s a glitch because prototype
Man that Ice Cap Zone music is awesome.
I hate Marble Garden Zone
Knuckles looks awesome with those sprites! They honestly look better than the ones he actually got in S3K
Modgen knux
When SEGA apered on screen... I thing have seen Sonic.exe. It's very hard to see, but with well timing You can see it
this is truly the most epic discovery but watching the stream with the hype was the best part
In this prototype, Sonic is faster.!
1:30 nice save.
19:49 - 20:42 How developers release games day one in modern times. 😔
Developers: Ahhh will just patch it later. 😁
I love that music change in Angel Island
Where's that Sonic f****** pops video?
Even now, knowing they were composed concurrently with the rest of the game’s music, the cut PC tracks still sound SO out-of-place. Tone-wise, composition-wise, everything. It’s like they were composed by an entirely different team! Maybe it’s just the nostalgia talking, idk.
Its a bit more obvious with Ice Cap and Launch Base
Carnival Night fits perfectly to me. But Ice Cap and Launch Base do sound weirdly out-of place. Probably nostalgia but yeah, I prefer final Ice Cap’s desolate/melancholic tone. And final Launch Base is definitely more industrial
I grew up with the Genesis version, but even I noticed as a child that the MJ tracks have very different instrumentation. The way that the melodies are composed also clashes with the rest of the game's level music. Carnival Night and Ice Cap are rather repetitive. The intended compositions actually blend in with the rest of the music, so I dont understand that remark. The Act 2 versions are pretty lazy, only removing instruments in certain intervals to make a slightly different tune that really only worked in Ice Cap. Ice Cap having a melancholic tone is also just a MJ team decision, not the original intent. Finally, this Launch Base works as "launch music", and is made to encourage the player in a different way than the MJ version, so it does fit, just in a different way.
Amyone else kinda thinking the music here is actually better than the final ones we got?
No?
_GOOD._
Yes, the proto tracks blow the mj ones out of the water
The electric shield at the end of Marble Garden 2 still there in the final version, right? It's the first time I saw it there
Yup. It's always been there.
Today's the anniversary of this prototype
Eveeyone thought that the Drop Dash was a new ability until they saw this
Nobody:
Nothing:
Spike (13:27): wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Edit: or: I'm outta here!
Sonic: I Jumped On you
Spike: I'm outta here
I will happily take these tunes if it means we could get Sonic 3 and Knuckles back into compilations. Pretty fun to see this stuff.
Famous last words.
37:05 to 37:21 I laughed so freaking hard when he died in a weird place
It's funny how Tails does nothing when you see him
Knuckle's theme on this one is so cool..
Also, they should have kept the original Carnival Night Zone theme.
0:25 Knuckles was like: Ay, wait. You. Come with me, i'll show you da wae.
no. Just no.
Dead meme
I didn't know that most of Sonic 3 was completed in 1993! I suppose Sonic & Knuckles was developed in 1994.
It's a bit like how Sonic 2 was completely finished in a matter of weeks or days. A lot of stuff in this build are up and running because at the time Sonic 3 got split, the zones they kept for part one were almost done. Keep in mind it's likely the game was finished at the end of November 93 and sent for manufacturing to be ready for the february release date.
Le Docteur there’s another prototype of sonic 3 dated November 20, but it’s known as the final build so it’s identical to the final.