Haven't watched computer hardware review for quite some time. I am impressed of the quality, the depth of the analysis and comparisons you made. Congrats and keep up with the quality work!
Thank you! If you have a moment, please let us know what you think of BuildPicker - we're trying our best to make it as useful as possible and looking for feedback to make it even better :) Much appreciated!
@@aprilaakbar733 I've called both the Asrock PRO RS and Gigabyte DS3H the 'worst' board, they're not truly the worst (that's the Asrock HDV) but they are bad, because of bad performance.
Still such a great board in 2023. I used it to upgrade my home PC half way through last year. I also did many customer builds with it. Recently even did a 13700 Raptor Lake. Many thanks for this review which put me onto it 🙂
@@nasonguy all good I believe with the Raptor Lake! No complaints from the owner I built system for! None of the systems I built using that board have given any issues. Without a doubt one of the best. Especially for the price.
I really appreciate the solid information in this channel. I'm sure that like me you'd prefer to see your subscriber count way higher. I have been around for channels significantly increasing their subscriber counts - by many fold - so it's definitely possible. Maybe you just have to make that one video that catches fire or, I dunno, have more actual working PCs with lights to attract gamer eyeballs? (Some gaming channels I follow have ridiculously high subscriber counts - in the millions! - and I don't feel the information they present is a patch on what you're producing.) I wish this channel a lot of success.
Paired this MSI PRO B660-A with KINGSTON FURY BEAST 2X8GB 3600 MHz (PC4-28800) CL17 (17-21-21) and a 12400f - Doesn't work on G1 OR G2 3600, works fine on 3200 G1 - Never saw any conflicting information in all the research I did on pairing the boards until I had the issue so came to find out if there was any out there. Yet to try anything above 3200 G1 and likely won't bother, bought three lots of the above (mobo/cpu/ram) to upgrade the house PC's and could have saved and invested it elsewhere had I known, tis a shame but not a massive loss. Was getting crash outs/BSOD's in Escape From Tarkov and Rust was crashing out and BSOD to. Did a memtest and was throwing up errors on one PC, did a little testing with the different XMP's and frequencies until it passed a test with no errors, applied the speed to all PC's and no problems since. Only posting this so someone else can stumble across it if needed :)
good review bro i need help to lower my temp with this motherboard and 13600k i tried cpu power limit to 181 watt but that also didn't work it's touching 97 digree and also decrese cpu mhz to 4.7 ghz please help.
I am working on building my first gaming system and of all the hundreds of videos i have watched your videos are by far the most informative and real easy to understand thank you for that. Keep up the awesome work.
You won't regret it. I have been an Asus user from way back in the 90's. But sadly they aren't that good in the value to mid-range. I am very happy in the MSI camp now.
@@BuildPicker allright thanks for your advice and I already order MSI pro B660M-A from local store here and cant wait to build with i7 12700F and RTX 3060.. Thanks for your good video!
Thank you so much for your review. I have bought i5-12400, this MSI board and G.Skills Ripsaw 3200Mhz 2x8Gb CL16 ram. It's working very well with no problems on XMP Gear 1.
Checking the QVL for this motherboard the RAM shown at 8:22 doesn't appear to be on the list, but that is exactly the RAM I have and hope to put into this board so thank you for testing it! G.Skill's website shows it being supported on their end and it's a pretty standard kit so I figured MSI's website is probably just wrong. Thanks again this video is very helpful.
The MSI QVL will show the kits they have tested themselves. If G.Skill have done the testing then you can likely trust that too. I've not heard of anyone having issues with this kit on B660/Alder lake.
@@BuildPicker Good to know, thank you. Yeah I'm kinda figuring if G.Skill listed it they must know it works and obviously you have tested it and it works.
Good afternoon. Have you already purchased this motherboard? Were there any problems with BIOS setup or RAM overclocking? Please write your review 🙏. I have a G.Skill Aegis XMP 3000 kit, but it works at a frequency of 3200 MHz stably. In the future I want tu by RAM for 3600 MHz, But it scares me that this board has such difficulties with overclocking RAM
Thanks for the review! Have this motherboard with 12400, Gskill Ripjaws 3600 cl16, EVGA AIO 280mm cooler. Ram run 3600 cl16 in Gear 1 without problems, no try more for the moment. Looking for other bios optimisation settings (voltage, ram, ...) A very good "low budget" configuration (for Intel 12th)!
@@bsh7390 How come he can run it then? I have this problem but some people don't apparently? Also do you think its worth running 3200 gear 1 over 3600 gear 2? Thank you
@@bsh7390 Ohhh that makes a lot of sense, I've been using the intel stock cooler while waiting for my dark rock 4 pro mounting brackets. So you think there's a chance of it working with a better cooler?
Choosing parts is a minefield glad u and the others on TH-cam are here to help.. ended up building the best PC I've ever made..KUDOS to u.. When should I upgrade to ddr5 ?
@@BuildPicker Wow. I didn't realize you actually replied. Thanks bro! You've definitely reduced a headache for me. Now I'm 100% certain I'm going for the MSI Pro. You've also gained a new subscriber with me. Keep it up! 😄
Do you have any experience with the DDR5 version of this board or should it be the same? I am kind of unsure because of the stability problems you mentioned. Planned build is with a i7 12700f.
i just bought the ATX motherboard Asus TUF Gaming B660-Plus WiFi D4 and i5 12400f , it was the same price as micro-ATX MSI PRO B660M-A. I'm wondering if i should have bought MSI? Which is one is better for the future cpu upgrades?
What a fantastic and comprehensive review, thanks for your hard work. I got a great deal for a 12100f and MSI PRO B660M-A (non WIFI). The 12100f was ridiculously cheap so I snapped it up. For now I don't need extra cores. I have some hope that Intel Raptor Lake will work on this board in the future too. If so, then that gives me an upgrade path later to go for a Raptor Lake equivalent of the 12400f with extra cores.
Good afternoon have anyone purchased this MSI pro b660m - A ddr4? Were there any problems with BIOS setup or Ram overclocking? please write your review.
Good solid review. I picked up an i5-12600 (non-K) in an MSI Mortar B660M WIFI DDR4 mobo last week and am happy with it. Hopefully we'll see a review of that on here as well as I'm curious if the extra £50 was worth it...
I don't think I'll be buying a Mortar, it's a bit rich for my blood! It's definitely got some nice features and it's obviously as capable as the PRO-A in terms of performance. Enjoy!
@@trioocta They're the same! The Pro is better if you need 4 display outputs (or 2 hdmi/2displayport) from the iGPU. The Bazooka is better if you prefer the way it looks.
Loved the video! I really really like this board. My only hold back is that I'm going to be running an i3-12100, so the VRM strength isn't that big of a deal. The Asus Prime B660M-A is $30 less than this, which is hard to pass up when I don't need much.
Would the $10 more expensive ATX version of this board be okay as well? The MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 specifically. I don't like the look of mATX boards in my case.
@@BuildPicker thank you so much for the response. I was so close to getting the bad ASRock B660 Pro RS and for $10 more for the MSI, it seems like a no brainer.
what a wonderful review, cant believe you got less then 10k subscribers, i got a question, i saw the MSI PRO B660-A, it is the same identical board but ATX? he's got quite extra features, why is cheaper then the mATX model?
It's identical in performance and key features. It has a few extra slots but nothing critical. Supply and demand is why it's cheaper: the B660M-A is the go to B660, so prices edge up as people don't cross-shop.
I got this for my build, I coudnt get Ballistix 3600 CL16 to that spec with XMP. I m running 3500 Cl15-17-17-38 G1 on a 12400 non f . instead of the original 3600 cl16-18-18-38. Mine didnt let me run 3600 cl16...only G2
Great and informative video man! One quick question. When this particular mb has very good vrm quality - I am going to pair it with i5-13600k after updating the bios. I know i wouldn' be able to overclock it but does ir support undervolt? Because it is very worth it with 12/13th gens acording to a lot of tech reviewers. Anyway have a great day and keep up the good work!:)
@@BuildPicker bro..should I choose *msi pro b660 A* for *12600k* because my seller said *"b660M-A is micro ATX* it's have less power capacitors"* I don't know much about that but I decided to go with ATX mobo for this model. What's your suggestion bro? Pls reply..
I'm a Music producer wanting to build a PC with i7 12700k. Please let me know if this board is okay to use? Or if there is any other mother board that i should consider checking. Btw I'm your subscriber :)
Does the crucial Vengeance 3600 C18 18-22-22-42 DDR4 work well with motherboard ie B660m-A with a i5 12400. I have odered these parts. I am worried about the ram issue. Dont now how crucial 3600 C18 will work.
@@eaglehigh-h3e I had to set the ram at 3200 in the buios instead of using XMP profile! So its better to save few bucks and buy 3200. But atleast it works.
So I have an older infinite x prebuild that has a Z370M. Would I be able to put this in it & build around it? The dimensions of the board are the same.
Yes, the single 8 pin can supply over 300W. The 12700 will not draw more than 200W. The additional sockets really are there for overclocking and i9's. However, if you have the additional plug from the psu you may as well connect it.
I have a question recently i have bought Samsung 970 evo plus 512 nvme ssd and i installed into this board it causing some problem sometimes it boots shows black screen even restart power on off also doesnt work but sometimes it boots. Mostly it doesn't boot on the first time power on so will help me what causing this issue?
BIOS update changed the XMP profile from gear 1 to gear 2. I'm not sure if its worth it to just run 3200 gear instead since 3600 gear 2 means the CPU memory controller is running at half the speed (1800mhz) not sure what that means in terms of performance.
@@Scrungge Did you manage to solve the problem with the RAM? I wanted to buy this board, but such reviews scare me! Is the Gigabyte B660 Gaming x worth considering, or is it a bad choice?
@@stefan_es I would still go for it, idk if it's the board or the CPU (since I have a non-k which impacts the memory controller). I just changed my speed to 3200 with 16-16-16-35 timings and everything is running smoothly. Be sure to check with memtest86, its fairly simple to setup.
Thank you very much great review. I have a gtx960m(old I know) laptop and am finally pulling the trigger on a high-end budget desktop. You cleared things up with the motherboard (I hope). I'm looking at a i7-12700F, MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC and this is the motherboard it comes with. I think it looks good and I only want to run GTA V at 1440p Is the non-K version 12700 good?
Hey very informative video and straight to the point, If i could ask a question though i'm really paranoid about warnings on sites like pcpartpicker talking about the extra 4 pin power warning on my current psu i know its usually a warning for extreme overclocking and stuff but will my 12600kf and 3060 ti be fine? sorry if i made it confusing
Yes it will be fine! An i5-12600K can draw 150W maximum, a single 8-pin is good for at least 300W to the CPU. The additional socket is mainly just marketing.
Great video! With the MSI Pro B660M-A, RTX 3080, I7-12700f, 32gb of ram (3200 mhz) and a MSI MAG CORELIQUID 240B Cooler.... would you recommend changing the power settings in the bios to Water Cooling... do you think this will benefit gaming performance? Appreciate your response!
Will this board be more than enough for Intel 12th gen 12700 which is a non K variant to perform at its full potential paired with a air cooler from a good brand please suggest a best air cooler to this. I am planning to buy this but wanted a final confirmation if this is good or MSI Tomahawk to be taken as if this does the job then there is no point in spending extra money on that Tomahawk version. Please confirm and I would be taking 3200mhz CL16 ram with this B660.
and does this motherboard have igd Multimonitor/similar option on the bios ( so we can use igpu and dgpu on same time and by igpu of the processor as recording stuff whill gaming on dgpu on the same time since i have 6500xt and it don't have encoder 😑)
Hello, Thanks a lot . Ur video gave clear idea about MSI Pro B660M-A Wifi DDR4 motherboard. Have a query , whether MSI Pro B760M-A wifi DDR5 is good choice ??
this MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 ($186 in BD) or Gigabyte Aorus Pro Gigabyte B660M Aorus PRO ($191 in BD) which one will be best with 12700 , samsung 980 pro ssd, 3200 Mhz ram and DarkFlash Twister DX-240 AIO? if I buy this board will it provide low performance than Aorus Pro ?
No, both will perform the same. Just ensure you set power limits correctly on either board. The Aorus pro also has a very strong VRM. At the same price, I'd prefer the Aorus Pro due to the better rear USB configuration.
They're very similar! Cheapest, or if you need ATX, the PRO, or if you want slightly better sound chip and don't mind mATX, Mortar. Neither is a bad choice.
Yes it is. It has minor differences: The VRM is slightly differently configured but identical in capability. It has a DVI port and USB-C on the rear IO.Obviously it has a few more PCIe 1x slots on it, but it's basically the same and will perform the same.
I will pick this motherboard for my build, just with wifi. I will pair it with i5-12400F, Patriot RAM 16GB at 3200. I already ordered Asus RX 3050 8GB for 320€ with bundled mouse.
I paired this board with an i7 12700 after watching your video. While in OC menu in bios I found the option to enable All P Cores and All E Cores. They are set in auto but when I enter the settings the core counts shows only 7 and 3 respectively but an i7 has 8P cores and 4E cores show why that option is not present there? I am currently using a stock cooler.
Nice video, planning on paired it with an rx 6700xt power color red devil but seems the pcie is alligned with the ram slots. Do you think it would fit? it seems this mobo is made for little GPU´s
I was so confused and finding a quality video... and here you are... I wanna tell you that your starting was not good, I was going to change... Need to improve visually... BTW it's a great video and so helpful.
Hello i have board msi pro b660M-B ddr4 Not (A) my question is do i have the same vrm or the vrm on my board is good? My cpu i5 12400 with rtx 3060 im playing warzone on low 144fps without any problem and do i can open the power limit on this board my psu 650W
Hi, I bought this motherboard, with an I3 12100, and 2x8gb of Corsair venegance ddr4. Dual Channel is not working! Slots B1 and B2 does not work even with a single ram stick. Only way to go is a single stick in A2 or two in A1 A2 (no dual channel). I read I'm not the only one with similar issues....is just the board and it's bios to new and needs time for a more good version? I'm quite confident that hardware is ok, no broken CPU pins or whatsoever...I also tried crucial rams, same issue. Thanks
@@BuildPicker I updated the bios, with latest beta version also the integrated GPU was not detected, with the last stable version GPU detected and ram with the issue I described. I don't see any bent pins, and I gently placed the cpu on the Mobo, fastened with Intel socket following instructions, how could I have bent them? Also if I Google, I'm not the only one with such an issue. Thanks for the response:-)
Really good review of this board. Thank you for your amazing work. I think you really should get more content like this... I will loop back my viewers to this video in case they need more information about this board.👍
Hello, thanks for the informative video. But I have a question. I want to build using this motherboard, but my main work is on ubuntu(20.04). No where on internet I am able to find the linux compatibility of good B660 motherboards. I would like to know if it has no major problems. Minor problems are fine. Also I would like to know if i could use atleast 2 displays using integrated graphics ports (the two hdmi and two dp). If you test that for me it would be great help. Installing ubuntu 20.04 on such powerful machines would be a breeze.
I'd dearly love to, but I don't have a spare SSD around right now and don't want to nuke one of my benchmark system SSDs to perform this testing for you! I'm sorry! Best I can suggest is that you read around for others experience of the LAN controller, Audio chip, and general iGPU performance under Ubuntu.
@@BuildPicker To test Ubuntu just run the Live version from a UBS stick. Nothing is written to the system and the test takes 10 minutes (5 minutes to download the OS and 5 minutes to try it). I have the same doubts as @japani joota Thanks
I had some ram stability issues after upgrading the bios from v 1.0 to 1.2. With an i3 12100f and 2x8GB Corsair Vengence LPX 3200 16-20-20-38 using XMP it ran 6 memtest passes on v1.0, but wound not post on v1.2. I haven't tried 1.1 or messed with the ram settings outside of XMP, but on 1.0 its been performing perfectly for games. I might run more memtest passes for ensuring stability while I can still return my ram, but overall I'm satisfied with the board. I was going to cheap out originally, but I wanted an in socket upgrade path and it seemed worth spending the extra 40 bucks rather than replacing the board down the line.
@@eaglehigh-h3e Still running stable on v1.0, haven't tried any other bios versions, but I don't really plan to since I'm constantly using my PC and it would be a lot of time and effort to make sure its stable. If I ever swap the CPU I may do more testing, but for now I'm leaving it as is.
I've read issues with i3-12100F and this mobo regarding bios if it is and older version bios than required. Do you think this motherboard is worth getting or should I look for another one?
@@satisfiedcustomer I've actually just tested the latest bios and it did 12 memtest passes and it finally seems stable. If you can get a similar Asus option at the same price that might be the better choice. Otherwise, if you decide to get the MSI, just make sure to test your memory within your return period.
I currently have an ASUS H610M-A with an outdated BIOS, which still gives me undervolt usage on my 12600K BUT I bought a Gen4 SSD which doesn't run at full speed on my H610. When researching cards, I'm between this Asrock Z690 (155 usd), MSI Pro B660m A Wifi (132 usd) and ASUS H770 Plus D4 (155 usd). that many reports on the internet say that it comes factory set with voltage above normal and that the undervolt in it is kind of complicated. I'm wondering if I really leave my H610 just because of the SSD... And there's still the VRM issue... Even the Z690 PG4 using DrMOS I don't know to what extent it's a better VRM than the H770 Plus D4 or the MSI Pro B660m A.
Don't feel bad! It'll run an i5 non-K CPU just fine, so the i5-12400,12500,12600. Make sure you update the BIOS, and set power limits to ~100W to prevent it over working the VRM. Also make sure your case has good airflow to keep VRM temperatures down. It'll be fine!
Hello, please help me. I have this motherboard and I am planning on connecting 6 bequiet light wing fans. The motherboard has 4 fan headers. 2 of them I will use for the cpu cooler fans. The remaning 2, I plan to split 3 to 1. Do you know how much amps each fan header outputs and whether it is safe to connect 3 fans to 1 header? the fans in question are the light wings pwm high speed fans. triple 120mm and triple 140mm
Each fan header is 1 amp, most fans are around 0.2Amos, so 3 fans on a header is fine. That's the generally recommended upper limit. You're good to go.
Hi, No, I didn't have to update at all - however there are two steppings of i5, C0 and H0, slightly different variants, and apparently you *may* have to update to BIOS for H0 - but both have been available since near launch and we haven't seen any issues reported.
@@mayurgoyal8762 bro how's the motherboard and deepcool gammax 400?? M also thinking to buy these 2 pls tell whether i should or not..also if possible can u give ur insta/telegram or any other social media I'd where i can msg u as i have some doubts in other pc components aswell
I have an Asus H610m-A. I'm not one to update BIOS unless I actually have a problem and this time I was lucky. Undervolt on my 12600K works flawlessly. Offset use of 0.150mv and Full Load temperatures go from 85º to 64º using a Deepcool AG400... I was wanting to get a B660M from MSI but many reports of problems. Upgrading to a Z690 increases the cost too much and I'm not going to overclock. It seems to me that I am lucky to have my H610m A... I wish I could use a high speed SSD and my other 2 DDR4 modules that are stopped due to lack of available slots on the Motherboard but it is difficult to define which card to go with so many limitations of these new BIOSes.
Haven't watched computer hardware review for quite some time. I am impressed of the quality, the depth of the analysis and comparisons you made. Congrats and keep up with the quality work!
Thank you! If you have a moment, please let us know what you think of BuildPicker - we're trying our best to make it as useful as possible and looking for feedback to make it even better :) Much appreciated!
Thanks for your review last week. I almost got the worst board. Luckily I watched your video and got this motherboard :) More power to you!
Can you spill the worst board in your opinion?
@@aprilaakbar733 Gigabyte B660m ds3h is the worst board
@@aprilaakbar733 I've called both the Asrock PRO RS and Gigabyte DS3H the 'worst' board, they're not truly the worst (that's the Asrock HDV) but they are bad, because of bad performance.
Same here, almost bought the Gigabyte until I came across his videos.
@@idioticfrosty Which CPU are you putting on it? Probably not a disaster! Make sure you update that BIOS.
Still such a great board in 2023. I used it to upgrade my home PC half way through last year. I also did many customer builds with it. Recently even did a 13700 Raptor Lake. Many thanks for this review which put me onto it 🙂
How's it doing with the Raptor Lake? Looking at building an i5-13500 budget video render workstation with this board.
@@nasonguy Can she with 13900?
@@nasonguy all good I believe with the Raptor Lake! No complaints from the owner I built system for! None of the systems I built using that board have given any issues. Without a doubt one of the best. Especially for the price.
I put 13600KF, working fine, with no complaints.
is still fine with you ?@@racimegacar
I finally made my choice. I'm no longer an overclocker and wanted stability with flexible features. Thanks for the review. This is the board I chose.
hi, can you share your pc build info, Im building my first pc and im going for this board
Francoisdubois80, can you share it to us? Let us know please. Thank you sir.
I really appreciate the solid information in this channel. I'm sure that like me you'd prefer to see your subscriber count way higher. I have been around for channels significantly increasing their subscriber counts - by many fold - so it's definitely possible. Maybe you just have to make that one video that catches fire or, I dunno, have more actual working PCs with lights to attract gamer eyeballs? (Some gaming channels I follow have ridiculously high subscriber counts - in the millions! - and I don't feel the information they present is a patch on what you're producing.) I wish this channel a lot of success.
Paired this MSI PRO B660-A with KINGSTON FURY BEAST 2X8GB 3600 MHz (PC4-28800) CL17 (17-21-21) and a 12400f - Doesn't work on G1 OR G2 3600, works fine on 3200 G1 - Never saw any conflicting information in all the research I did on pairing the boards until I had the issue so came to find out if there was any out there.
Yet to try anything above 3200 G1 and likely won't bother, bought three lots of the above (mobo/cpu/ram) to upgrade the house PC's and could have saved and invested it elsewhere had I known, tis a shame but not a massive loss.
Was getting crash outs/BSOD's in Escape From Tarkov and Rust was crashing out and BSOD to. Did a memtest and was throwing up errors on one PC, did a little testing with the different XMP's and frequencies until it passed a test with no errors, applied the speed to all PC's and no problems since.
Only posting this so someone else can stumble across it if needed :)
Great review! Still relevant a year later. I think this may be my board. Thanks!
Underrated channel, Thanks for very informative review!
good review bro
i need help to lower my temp with this motherboard and 13600k
i tried cpu power limit to 181 watt but that also didn't work it's touching 97 digree and also decrese cpu mhz to 4.7 ghz
please help.
I am working on building my first gaming system and of all the hundreds of videos i have watched your videos are by far the most informative and real easy to understand thank you for that. Keep up the awesome work.
What an in-depth review! love it, helped me choose this board
Will buy this soon. I'm very satisfied with MSI so far.
Had a 1151 socket MSI board that lasted for years without any problems.
You won't regret it. I have been an Asus user from way back in the 90's. But sadly they aren't that good in the value to mid-range. I am very happy in the MSI camp now.
how many years last?
Detailed and well reviewed. Thanks for that! 🎉
I just bought this board and i love it 😃
I like the suggestions you throw in at each level of the review. Really appreciate it!
Thank you! We've got a bunch of recommended builds on buildpicker.com so feel free to check that out and let us know what you think! :)
Hi I need your advice. Which one best between MSI Pro B660M-A Wifi or asus prime B660M-A Wifi D4?
We do prefer the MSI PRO B660M-A. It's a better specced board and has no issues with performance at all even with an i7 CPU.
@@BuildPicker allright thanks for your advice and I already order MSI pro B660M-A from local store here and cant wait to build with i7 12700F and RTX 3060.. Thanks for your good video!
Thank you so much for your review. I have bought i5-12400, this MSI board and G.Skills Ripsaw 3200Mhz 2x8Gb CL16 ram. It's working very well with no problems on XMP Gear 1.
Can you plz send me your full pc configuration of i5 12400
@@kaleniraj4846 it's just what i said above, using old sata ssd/hdd, 520W psu and case. Do not have a display card at the moment.
@@hoppimaniac is an EVGA 500gd 80+ Gold good enough for a an i5 12400f?
Yo I have a the same system different ram and mine isnt working, the is a static yellow light on the motherboard is the ram the issue
@@daniel.1899 depends on your display card and what you do with it.
Gonna build my first pc in the coming weeks, and these videos of yours really helped me out! Thanks for those high quality videos.
same
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MSI Pro B660M-P whats the difference
Checking the QVL for this motherboard the RAM shown at 8:22 doesn't appear to be on the list, but that is exactly the RAM I have and hope to put into this board so thank you for testing it! G.Skill's website shows it being supported on their end and it's a pretty standard kit so I figured MSI's website is probably just wrong. Thanks again this video is very helpful.
The MSI QVL will show the kits they have tested themselves. If G.Skill have done the testing then you can likely trust that too. I've not heard of anyone having issues with this kit on B660/Alder lake.
@@BuildPicker Good to know, thank you. Yeah I'm kinda figuring if G.Skill listed it they must know it works and obviously you have tested it and it works.
Good afternoon. Have you already purchased this motherboard? Were there any problems with BIOS setup or RAM overclocking? Please write your review 🙏.
I have a G.Skill Aegis XMP 3000 kit, but it works at a frequency of 3200 MHz stably. In the future I want tu by RAM for 3600 MHz, But it scares me that this board has such difficulties with overclocking RAM
For extra 10 bucks I purchased the Wifi version and Bluetooth. MSI Pro boards have always been quality above the rest.
What cpu are you using it with? I'm planning on buying with an i7-12700F. is it a good idea?
@@ElwoodBluesAK I have the 12400. Yes, it will support 12700f, but try to pair it with a good air cooler, there should be plenty to choose now.
@@cebuanostud thank you.
What is the difference between MSI PRO B660M-A and MSI PRO B660M-E ?
It is best budget mobo for i5 13600kf ?
Thanks for the review!
Have this motherboard with 12400, Gskill Ripjaws 3600 cl16, EVGA AIO 280mm cooler.
Ram run 3600 cl16 in Gear 1 without problems, no try more for the moment.
Looking for other bios optimisation settings (voltage, ram, ...)
A very good "low budget" configuration (for Intel 12th)!
Realistically, if you've set lifted power limits and are running that RAM at XMP gear one, you're 'optimised' as muc has you can.
RAM is locked because Intel CPU SA voltage is locked to 0.95 for all non-K CPUs
@@bsh7390 How come he can run it then? I have this problem but some people don't apparently? Also do you think its worth running 3200 gear 1 over 3600 gear 2? Thank you
@@Scrungge yeah, because better cooler will affect this. to cool of internal IMC temperature, more than 60 degree definitely cant
@@bsh7390 Ohhh that makes a lot of sense, I've been using the intel stock cooler while waiting for my dark rock 4 pro mounting brackets. So you think there's a chance of it working with a better cooler?
Choosing parts is a minefield glad u and the others on TH-cam are here to help.. ended up building the best PC I've ever made..KUDOS to u.. When should I upgrade to ddr5 ?
Thanks for this review. Made it clear what board to buy since we cant get the overclocking boards at a reasonable price in europe...
Is this board better or the ASRock B660M Steel Legend?
The steel legend is also decent but we'd recommend this msi board as we've tested it and can vouch for it.
@@BuildPicker Wow. I didn't realize you actually replied. Thanks bro! You've definitely reduced a headache for me. Now I'm 100% certain I'm going for the MSI Pro. You've also gained a new subscriber with me. Keep it up! 😄
Awesome review!!! i ve got all information i needed!!! thanks bro
Do you have any experience with the DDR5 version of this board or should it be the same?
I am kind of unsure because of the stability problems you mentioned.
Planned build is with a i7 12700f.
I got the B. Version how does it compare ? Is it just a few heat sinks missing?
i just bought the ATX motherboard Asus TUF Gaming B660-Plus WiFi D4 and i5 12400f , it was the same price as micro-ATX MSI PRO B660M-A. I'm wondering if i should have bought MSI? Which is one is better for the future cpu upgrades?
What a fantastic and comprehensive review, thanks for your hard work. I got a great deal for a 12100f and MSI PRO B660M-A (non WIFI). The 12100f was ridiculously cheap so I snapped it up. For now I don't need extra cores.
I have some hope that Intel Raptor Lake will work on this board in the future too. If so, then that gives me an upgrade path later to go for a Raptor Lake equivalent of the 12400f with extra cores.
You can even upgrade to even an i7 12700
@SlowJoCrow How is it running? I bought the 12100 with this mobo together with an rx6600 and im curious how it will run
@@chabobabo5536 Yeah it's going great!
does it run 13900?
Good afternoon have anyone purchased this MSI pro b660m - A ddr4? Were there any problems with BIOS setup or Ram overclocking? please write your review.
Turns out this motherboard does allow to change frequency of k-cpus. I was surprised to see this bios settings available after installing the 12600k.
So good I just subscribed to your channel.
Welcome aboard!
Good solid review. I picked up an i5-12600 (non-K) in an MSI Mortar B660M WIFI DDR4 mobo last week and am happy with it. Hopefully we'll see a review of that on here as well as I'm curious if the extra £50 was worth it...
I don't think I'll be buying a Mortar, it's a bit rich for my blood! It's definitely got some nice features and it's obviously as capable as the PRO-A in terms of performance. Enjoy!
@@BuildPicker which one is better between this b660m pro a and b660m bazooka
@@trioocta They're the same! The Pro is better if you need 4 display outputs (or 2 hdmi/2displayport) from the iGPU. The Bazooka is better if you prefer the way it looks.
@@BuildPicker oke, if between gigabyte b660 gaming x ddr4 and B660M AORUS PRO ddr4 which one do you think is better?
@@trioocta the B660M aorus is better. Better VRM, 6 Layer pcb and no brown pcb (the b660 gaming x looks black on pictures but its brown pcb irl :(( )
Loved the video! I really really like this board. My only hold back is that I'm going to be running an i3-12100, so the VRM strength isn't that big of a deal. The Asus Prime B660M-A is $30 less than this, which is hard to pass up when I don't need much.
If you're running an i3 and don't plan on upgrading (I don't recommend upgrading), buy the cheapest mb possible.
@@HaydenLau. i am seeing to upgrade in future so i an gonna go with b660m pro a d4
@@epicworld5238
Nobody should upgrade. It's much easier to sell your whole system and buy a new one each time. You get more money
This is idiotic advice and I hope you are joking.
Awesome review! Thank you
Would the $10 more expensive ATX version of this board be okay as well? The MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 specifically. I don't like the look of mATX boards in my case.
Yes, it's the same board only longer!
@@BuildPicker thank you so much for the response. I was so close to getting the bad ASRock B660 Pro RS and for $10 more for the MSI, it seems like a no brainer.
what a wonderful review, cant believe you got less then 10k subscribers, i got a question, i saw the MSI PRO B660-A, it is the same identical board but ATX? he's got quite extra features, why is cheaper then the mATX model?
It's identical in performance and key features. It has a few extra slots but nothing critical. Supply and demand is why it's cheaper: the B660M-A is the go to B660, so prices edge up as people don't cross-shop.
@@BuildPicker thanks
Brilliant, V clear, full of facts so well presented, thanks.
I got this for my build, I coudnt get Ballistix 3600 CL16 to that spec with XMP. I m running 3500 Cl15-17-17-38 G1 on a 12400 non f . instead of the original 3600 cl16-18-18-38. Mine didnt let me run 3600 cl16...only G2
Yes a lot of people are saying this about the Crucial Ballistix 3600Mhz Kit. It's a shame, but a very minor differenece in the real world.
Very good detailed information thanks
Excellent review, congrats and you have one more subscriber.
For those tests did you use only 8 pin power or 8 + 4? I got a 8 pin power supply, do you think its a problem with an i7?
Only the 8 Pin. It can supply ample power for an i7 without overclocking.
Great and informative video man! One quick question. When this particular mb has very good vrm quality - I am going to pair it with i5-13600k after updating the bios. I know i wouldn' be able to overclock it but does ir support undervolt? Because it is very worth it with 12/13th gens acording to a lot of tech reviewers. Anyway have a great day and keep up the good work!:)
just watched your videos i was about to buy the gygabyte bad board you saved my life, you have the best review out there thanks
I'm start Bing watching this channel...best review!
Glad you're enjoying it!
@@BuildPicker bro..should I choose *msi pro b660 A* for *12600k* because my seller said *"b660M-A is micro ATX* it's have less power capacitors"* I don't know much about that but I decided to go with ATX mobo for this model. What's your suggestion bro? Pls reply..
I'm a Music producer wanting to build a PC with i7 12700k. Please let me know if this board is okay to use? Or if there is any other mother board that i should consider checking. Btw I'm your subscriber :)
Does the crucial Vengeance 3600 C18 18-22-22-42 DDR4 work well with motherboard ie B660m-A with a i5 12400. I have odered these parts.
I am worried about the ram issue. Dont now how crucial 3600 C18 will work.
Bro, Does the ram work?
@@eaglehigh-h3e I had to set the ram at 3200 in the buios instead of using XMP profile! So its better to save few bucks and buy 3200. But atleast it works.
Wow this is excellent stuff. Keep it up!
So I have an older infinite x prebuild that has a Z370M. Would I be able to put this in it & build around it? The dimensions of the board are the same.
1:10 You say that it will run fine on just an 8-pin connector. Is that still true for a 12700? Then what is the purpose of the 8+4 pin?
Yes, the single 8 pin can supply over 300W. The 12700 will not draw more than 200W. The additional sockets really are there for overclocking and i9's. However, if you have the additional plug from the psu you may as well connect it.
@@BuildPicker Thanks so much
How can we use the type C port on this motherboard if there is no cutout upon the cabinet
You can't - you need a case with the USB Type C socket on the front and the connectors within to connect to the Gen2x2 header on the motherboard.
I have a question recently i have bought Samsung 970 evo plus 512 nvme ssd and i installed into this board it causing some problem sometimes it boots shows black screen even restart power on off also doesnt work but sometimes it boots. Mostly it doesn't boot on the first time power on so will help me what causing this issue?
3600mhz ram wasn't stable on mine, hope a bios update will fix it.
BIOS update changed the XMP profile from gear 1 to gear 2. I'm not sure if its worth it to just run 3200 gear instead since 3600 gear 2 means the CPU memory controller is running at half the speed (1800mhz) not sure what that means in terms of performance.
@@Scrungge Did you manage to solve the problem with the RAM? I wanted to buy this board, but such reviews scare me! Is the Gigabyte B660 Gaming x worth considering, or is it a bad choice?
@@stefan_es I would still go for it, idk if it's the board or the CPU (since I have a non-k which impacts the memory controller). I just changed my speed to 3200 with 16-16-16-35 timings and everything is running smoothly. Be sure to check with memtest86, its fairly simple to setup.
@@Scrungge bro, what brand model is your ram? I am looking for a compatible 3200mhz ram for this board. The G skill is good but over my budget.
@@eaglehigh-h3e Any well established brand is good for that speed, dw. Good luck!
Thank you very much great review. I have a gtx960m(old I know) laptop and am finally pulling the trigger on a high-end budget desktop. You cleared things up with the motherboard (I hope). I'm looking at a i7-12700F, MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC and this is the motherboard it comes with. I think it looks good and I only want to run GTA V at 1440p Is the non-K version 12700 good?
It's basically the same but without OC abilities. You should be fine
There is an ATX version of this board, would you recommend it?
It's basically the same thing, yes it is also fine if you want the ATX form factor.
Hey very informative video and straight to the point, If i could ask a question though i'm really paranoid about warnings on sites like pcpartpicker talking about the extra 4 pin power warning on my current psu i know its usually a warning for extreme overclocking and stuff but will my 12600kf and 3060 ti be fine? sorry if i made it confusing
Yes it will be fine! An i5-12600K can draw 150W maximum, a single 8-pin is good for at least 300W to the CPU. The additional socket is mainly just marketing.
Great video! With the MSI Pro B660M-A, RTX 3080, I7-12700f, 32gb of ram (3200 mhz) and a MSI MAG CORELIQUID 240B Cooler.... would you recommend changing the power settings in the bios to Water Cooling... do you think this will benefit gaming performance? Appreciate your response!
Will this board be more than enough for Intel 12th gen 12700 which is a non K variant to perform at its full potential paired with a air cooler from a good brand please suggest a best air cooler to this. I am planning to buy this but wanted a final confirmation if this is good or MSI Tomahawk to be taken as if this does the job then there is no point in spending extra money on that Tomahawk version. Please confirm and I would be taking 3200mhz CL16 ram with this B660.
Yes it's a good pairing with an i7 non K. I'd suggest the Deep cool AK620 if available in your area. Noctua performance without the price.
and does this motherboard have igd Multimonitor/similar option on the bios ( so we can use igpu and dgpu on same time and by igpu of the processor as recording stuff whill gaming on dgpu on the same time since i have 6500xt and it don't have encoder 😑)
Yes, you can use both iGPU and dGPU simultaneously,for whatever tasks you want.
Hello, Thanks a lot . Ur video gave clear idea about MSI Pro B660M-A Wifi DDR4 motherboard.
Have a query , whether MSI Pro B760M-A wifi DDR5 is good choice ??
Almost got the gigabyte b660m ds3h then I seen this. This one was only one pound more, £295 for a i5 12400f and this board what a steal.
this MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 ($186 in BD) or Gigabyte Aorus Pro Gigabyte B660M Aorus PRO ($191 in BD) which one will be best with 12700 , samsung 980 pro ssd, 3200 Mhz ram and
DarkFlash Twister DX-240 AIO?
if I buy this board will it provide low performance than Aorus Pro ?
No, both will perform the same. Just ensure you set power limits correctly on either board. The Aorus pro also has a very strong VRM. At the same price, I'd prefer the Aorus Pro due to the better rear USB configuration.
Bro please suggest me that "MSI PRO B660-A" or "MSI MAG B660M MORTAR" for i7-12700 💥
Love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩
They're very similar! Cheapest, or if you need ATX, the PRO, or if you want slightly better sound chip and don't mind mATX, Mortar. Neither is a bad choice.
@@BuildPickerThanks for your reply 😘😍
Please suggest me any motherboard which will best for i7-12700
Thanks 🤩
MSI PRO b660m-A will work good on i7 12700?
Yes, we've tested it and it works well. Get a good cooler and lift power limits (by selecting tower or water cooling options in BIOS!)
Is the MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 the ATX version of this?
yes
Yes it is. It has minor differences: The VRM is slightly differently configured but identical in capability. It has a DVI port and USB-C on the rear IO.Obviously it has a few more PCIe 1x slots on it, but it's basically the same and will perform the same.
I will pick this motherboard for my build, just with wifi. I will pair it with i5-12400F, Patriot RAM 16GB at 3200. I already ordered Asus RX 3050 8GB for 320€ with bundled mouse.
Any progress?
01:15
so will be there any problem like bsod or windows crash if we use only 8 pin power connector and leave the rest 4 pin free?
No, you only need the 8 Pin!
Just remember, my first PC that I want to buy is MSI Pro B660M-A Wifi DDR4 thanks to this video.
Update: I've been using it for a year. i5-12400f + RTX 3060 Ti + 16gb ram. So far it's so incredible. NO ISSUES!
Awesome board . Good performance at good price . Msi have out done themselves every year
thanks bro..
it will really help newbies like me.
Hello , im planning to use this board ( the wifi version) with i3 12100f and rx6600 .. will all of those run well together??
Yeah, can you'd have plenty of room to upgrade to more powerful CPUs.
I paired this board with an i7 12700 after watching your video. While in OC menu in bios I found the option to enable All P Cores and All E Cores. They are set in auto but when I enter the settings the core counts shows only 7 and 3 respectively but an i7 has 8P cores and 4E cores show why that option is not present there? I am currently using a stock cooler.
The count starts at 0, so cores 0-7 = 8 cores.
Thanks for this! Can the same can be said for the MSI Pro B760M-A Wi-Fi DDR4?
Appreciate the covered details. Could you please let me know where is the CMOS Battery located?
Stuck to the back of the ethernet port. If you need to clear CMOS, just use the jbat1 pins above the power switch connectors.
@@BuildPicker Thank you so much for your quick reply
Thanks for the video highly appreciated!
Are the fan headers enough for 3 intake fans and 1 exhaust fan?
Nice video, planning on paired it with an rx 6700xt power color red devil but seems the pcie is alligned with the ram slots. Do you think it would fit? it seems this mobo is made for little GPU´s
No, it will always fit. The pcie slots do not overlap ram slots - the ATX specifications prohibit it.
I was so confused and finding a quality video... and here you are...
I wanna tell you that your starting was not good, I was going to change... Need to improve visually... BTW it's a great video and so helpful.
Hello i have board msi pro b660M-B ddr4 Not (A) my question is do i have the same vrm or the vrm on my board is good? My cpu i5 12400 with rtx 3060 im playing warzone on low 144fps without any problem and do i can open the power limit on this board my psu 650W
Is the Wifi version identical? I've been looking for good motherboard that include bluetooth and wifi
Yes identical... Except it has WiFi!
Does this motherboard bios have a resizable bar feature?
Hi, I bought this motherboard, with an I3 12100, and 2x8gb of Corsair venegance ddr4. Dual Channel is not working! Slots B1 and B2 does not work even with a single ram stick. Only way to go is a single stick in A2 or two in A1 A2 (no dual channel). I read I'm not the only one with similar issues....is just the board and it's bios to new and needs time for a more good version? I'm quite confident that hardware is ok, no broken CPU pins or whatsoever...I also tried crucial rams, same issue. Thanks
Have you updated the BIOS at all? That may help although it sounds more like a physical defect. Bent cpu socket pins can also cause this behavior.
@@BuildPicker I updated the bios, with latest beta version also the integrated GPU was not detected, with the last stable version GPU detected and ram with the issue I described. I don't see any bent pins, and I gently placed the cpu on the Mobo, fastened with Intel socket following instructions, how could I have bent them? Also if I Google, I'm not the only one with such an issue. Thanks for the response:-)
How come ALC897 is a con from other board when this msi pro specific board is ALC987! That's confusing
Really good review of this board. Thank you for your amazing work.
I think you really should get more content like this... I will loop back my viewers to this video in case they need more information about this board.👍
Hello, thanks for the informative video. But I have a question. I want to build using this motherboard, but my main work is on ubuntu(20.04). No where on internet I am able to find the linux compatibility of good B660 motherboards.
I would like to know if it has no major problems. Minor problems are fine. Also I would like to know if i could use atleast 2 displays using integrated graphics ports (the two hdmi and two dp).
If you test that for me it would be great help. Installing ubuntu 20.04 on such powerful machines would be a breeze.
I'd dearly love to, but I don't have a spare SSD around right now and don't want to nuke one of my benchmark system SSDs to perform this testing for you! I'm sorry! Best I can suggest is that you read around for others experience of the LAN controller, Audio chip, and general iGPU performance under Ubuntu.
@@BuildPicker To test Ubuntu just run the Live version from a UBS stick. Nothing is written to the system and the test takes 10 minutes (5 minutes to download the OS and 5 minutes to try it). I have the same doubts as @japani joota Thanks
I had some ram stability issues after upgrading the bios from v 1.0 to 1.2. With an i3 12100f and 2x8GB Corsair Vengence LPX 3200 16-20-20-38 using XMP it ran 6 memtest passes on v1.0, but wound not post on v1.2. I haven't tried 1.1 or messed with the ram settings outside of XMP, but on 1.0 its been performing perfectly for games. I might run more memtest passes for ensuring stability while I can still return my ram, but overall I'm satisfied with the board. I was going to cheap out originally, but I wanted an in socket upgrade path and it seemed worth spending the extra 40 bucks rather than replacing the board down the line.
Any progress on this? 🤔
@@eaglehigh-h3e Still running stable on v1.0, haven't tried any other bios versions, but I don't really plan to since I'm constantly using my PC and it would be a lot of time and effort to make sure its stable.
If I ever swap the CPU I may do more testing, but for now I'm leaving it as is.
I've read issues with i3-12100F and this mobo regarding bios if it is and older version bios than required.
Do you think this motherboard is worth getting or should I look for another one?
@@satisfiedcustomer I've actually just tested the latest bios and it did 12 memtest passes and it finally seems stable. If you can get a similar Asus option at the same price that might be the better choice. Otherwise, if you decide to get the MSI, just make sure to test your memory within your return period.
I currently have an ASUS H610M-A with an outdated BIOS, which still gives me undervolt usage on my 12600K BUT I bought a Gen4 SSD which doesn't run at full speed on my H610. When researching cards, I'm between this Asrock Z690 (155 usd), MSI Pro B660m A Wifi (132 usd) and ASUS H770 Plus D4 (155 usd). that many reports on the internet say that it comes factory set with voltage above normal and that the undervolt in it is kind of complicated. I'm wondering if I really leave my H610 just because of the SSD... And there's still the VRM issue... Even the Z690 PG4 using DrMOS I don't know to what extent it's a better VRM than the H770 Plus D4 or the MSI Pro B660m A.
i already bought gigabyte b660m ds3h, what maximum cpu can i use? feel sad after watch this video but nice review
Don't feel bad! It'll run an i5 non-K CPU just fine, so the i5-12400,12500,12600. Make sure you update the BIOS, and set power limits to ~100W to prevent it over working the VRM. Also make sure your case has good airflow to keep VRM temperatures down. It'll be fine!
@@BuildPicker already update with f5 bios, thanks for the answer i hope ur channel get bigger
Hello, please help me. I have this motherboard and I am planning on connecting 6 bequiet light wing fans. The motherboard has 4 fan headers. 2 of them I will use for the cpu cooler fans. The remaning 2, I plan to split 3 to 1. Do you know how much amps each fan header outputs and whether it is safe to connect 3 fans to 1 header? the fans in question are the light wings pwm high speed fans. triple 120mm and triple 140mm
Each fan header is 1 amp, most fans are around 0.2Amos, so 3 fans on a header is fine. That's the generally recommended upper limit. You're good to go.
@@BuildPicker thank you so much.
Hi bro, do you know if the MSI PRO B660M-A is a good buy too? besides it only have 2 RAM slots.
I don't know if I just missed this but what version of the BIOS did this ship with? Did you have to update it to use the i5? thanks
Hi, No, I didn't have to update at all - however there are two steppings of i5, C0 and H0, slightly different variants, and apparently you *may* have to update to BIOS for H0 - but both have been available since near launch and we haven't seen any issues reported.
I ordered msi b660m-a along with 12700F with deepcool gammaxx 400 cooler, hope it will be fine 😅 nd i wont miss K series 😜
The i7 non K is a low-key sleeper CPU. It's virtually the same as the K. Should be an awesome set up.
@@BuildPicker yeah it costed me less nd board is also cheap so i decided to go with this instead of 12600K nd z690 board.
@@mayurgoyal8762 bro how's the motherboard and deepcool gammax 400?? M also thinking to buy these 2 pls tell whether i should or not..also if possible can u give ur insta/telegram or any other social media I'd where i can msg u as i have some doubts in other pc components aswell
@@AyushGarg82 if u just plan to play games than this cooler is sufficient for other heavy work like rendering u will need an aio
@@mayurgoyal8762 mostly thinking to play fps games like valorant,apex legends and live streaming these games..will this cooler maintain this much?
The price for z690 msi pro is almost the same as pro a b660, z690 is the better choice right?
Yes, it's the better board.
can MSI b660m-a work fine with 13600kf?
What should be best SMPS for this board? The extra 4 pin is not available in a lot of model. Please sujest
please do some tests on h610 too, not everyone have the budget to buy b660
I have an Asus H610m-A. I'm not one to update BIOS unless I actually have a problem and this time I was lucky. Undervolt on my 12600K works flawlessly. Offset use of 0.150mv and Full Load temperatures go from 85º to 64º using a Deepcool AG400...
I was wanting to get a B660M from MSI but many reports of problems. Upgrading to a Z690 increases the cost too much and I'm not going to overclock. It seems to me that I am lucky to have my H610m A... I wish I could use a high speed SSD and my other 2 DDR4 modules that are stopped due to lack of available slots on the Motherboard but it is difficult to define which card to go with so many limitations of these new BIOSes.
TYVM for the review. I am looking to see how to hook up this MB out to my 7.1 receiver with no luck. Manual is very lacking. Any help?