Are Old-Fashioned Keys Better Than Brand New Key Fobs? We Compare Old Vs. New!
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- ( www.TFLcar.com ) Sometimes, the old ways are better...or are they? Nathan takes a look at old-fashioned keys and how they compare to the keyless access and start systems we know in modern cars today.
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You forgot the era where we had the key and keyfob separate.
Love these types of vids, they are cool and actually useful, would’ve been cool if you had that cool BMW key with touch screen
Now keys cost $500 and a trip to the dealer versus $10 at a Locksmith.
I've heard some cost $800
$10 if that. To get a new one madr for my truck is about $2. My dad's truck key is about $300. It will also eventually die, while mine most likely won't
@@Ratchetanium The only ones that will cost that much will be high end luxury cars, the average car is well under $500. Something like that BMW i8 key fob will likely be around $800, but when you're spending that much on a car, the cost is relative. Not to mention, have you seen it? The thing is a mini computer, it could've been a prop in the Back to the Future movie.
For my 2017 ram it is $300
But mine only has remote start.
Lol you forgot to mention that keypad on the doors of Ford for the longest time to get in.
I use that on my F-150 all the time. I love it
that my favorite thing about my 06 Taurus besides the leather seats and the moon roof. if you go to the beach just leave you keys inside and enter your 5 digit code to gain access to your belongings when you return.
Yes! The Keyless Entry Keypad. It's been in use since the '80's. 5 digits gets you in! My 96 and my 2002 have this (both Lincolns).
I run my ac all the time and get in with the keypad. Love the keypad
The one thing that bothers me about the new key fobs is the cost of replacing them at the dealer ...its a huge pain .
Your exactly right man I hate it
Only $300... For a key...
Problem with modern key fobs for me is how large they are. Keys for 3 cars in my pocket the pocket is stretched to capacity!
Why would need to carry keys for 3 different cars all the time though? Just take the one you need
I normally have separate Keychains for my cars..
Who carries 3 sets of keys in their pocket when you can only drive one car at a time?
Because you can need it at any time? Heck most of the drivers at the company I worked at drove their personal car to the HQ, then took one of the company cars. If I don't have a desk (preferably a lockable one) I wouldn't leave my personal car keys anywhere either.
Standard keys without any fobs are the best
I love one conventional switchblade key. I dont want the doors to unlock automatically and I tend to forget the key in the cup holder when I drive. I'd rather have it stay in the dash, I actually enjoy turning the key and hearing the engine fire up, and I like that the car is off when the key isn't in it.
Same. Switchblade ftw. There's something satisfying about turning the key to start your car. Unless, well, it doesn't start! 🤣
I like the 13 highlander key. A single key with a wireless remote seperate. I can take the single key by itself and go kayaking or fishing and not worry about it getting wet or muddy.
You guys forgot the BMW display screen keys.
One key to turn on the ignition. It is a satisfying feeling to turn a key and hearing the engine come to life.
I actually prefer more keys. Everything on my Jeep is manual and I like it that way. Plus keys for my extra storage and gas cap. Im fine with it 👍
Its interesting to think about the evolution of keys. I like key fobs, but I enjoy the feeling of having a physical key and manually starting a vehicle. Brings back memories from when I first learned to drive my parent's 1990 Celica.
Still have my father's old keys from his Pontiac, and oldsmobile he use to own! Fascinating piece nathan, because we all remember the "Good Old Days"!
I'm 57 years old. Started working on cars and pickups about 12 years old. ASE Master certified and Advance level engine performance systems Specialist certified. I am a tech nut for a guy my age. But two of the dumbest thing in the universe to me is. No physical key and no manual shift lever on automatic transmissions. No key, two issues I see. Push button start only and push button kill. I would love to see someone key bump for service or diag work. I figure it probably could still be done by tapping button. If it don't try to go into complete start in the PCM. 2nd love to see the carnage done when you can't just turn back the lock cylinder to kill the engine. Better yet . can we say throttle actuators in Toyotas hanging open. If that happened in my Suburban. Turn engine off. Now if an electrical glitch happened causing throttle issue and engine didn't kill. Leads me to a new issue I see possible to happen. Push button shift. I can slap my 4L60E into neutral with the lever and let it bounce off the rev limiter. But some brainless engineer will mess that up in time to, if not already. And take away my right to safety and pull it out of drive to. Sorry so long winded. Just know what I know. I am never buying a death trap in my eyes.
Clint Helling could just throw it into neutral
The vehicle doesn't have push button shit yes you can. Which is why I mentioned doing so and let it bounce off the rev limiter. And I've seen videos of cars that appear to have push button shift. Which if that is the case. And no actual way to put the valve body in neutral manually. I won't be buying it. Reread my post. I mentioned putting it in neutral and the possibility of an engineer screwing that plan up.
Land Rover instrument panel hood just flopping around. Lol.
YES! Keys will always be better! I had a bad experience once waiting for a ferry. The car I was driving had the startup sequence of hold brake, push button, keep holding brake, and shift into gear. The line started to move, and I hit the push button start and shifted into drive. The only problem was, when I started moving the car wasn't actually in gear. I still don't know if it was even on, but it was just slowly coasting forward, and I had no power steering and no power brakes. I tried repeatedly to shift into gear, push the button again, push the brake and hit the button, push the brake and shift into drive, you name it. I wanted to turn the car completely off so I could do the startup sequence again, but I couldn't even get it to do that. Somehow, a combination of stuff I did managed to get it to work, but I was fed up with the whole event. My car that I got later is a 2003 and has a physical key that allows me to turn my car off whenever the hell I want, without any dumb sequence. It is so helpful to be able to just turn a key and kill the power in order to start it up again if necessary, rather than trying to guess where in the sequence I am and what part I missed. *I* control when my car turns off and on, and that is infinitely superior to any modern computerization that just gets in the way.
Amen! F*ck the expensive fob crap!
Now enterprizing car thieves use a scan tool to clone your fancy key fob to gain entry to your vehicle and drive it away with no damage to the vehicle.
It's not that simple. There are multiple layers. If they get your fob signal, they still have to get the transponder signal in the key itself to shut off the immobilizer. It's a lot more complicated to get a vehicle started without key than people think. Thieves would rather bust a window and take what's in the back seat rather than go through the effort of taking the entire car.
I still like using a regular key
I think Nathan just spoilt the new TFLpro Land Cruiser...
When technology fails, the old keys are my friend. I drive 90's-EARLY 2000's vehicles, so I get the best of both worlds. A non-chip key, a key fob for doors, and just enough interior tech to still be considered nice and "convenient." 😎
Great video Nathan. Would be awesome to see more like this one. Keep up the good work.
Just a plain key with an immobilizer chip is the best and most secure way to start your vehicle. In my own opinion
volkswagen switchblade key was the peak of keys.
Kia uses the switchblade style as well and I love it!
I have one on my 16 Passat
HAD ME A 87 BRONCO 2 WITH A COUPLE OF KEYS NOT ANNOYING BUT CARRYING 5 OR 6 KEYS IN YOUR POCKET AT ONE TIME WITH HOUSE KEYS AND WORK KEYS GETS ANNOYING MAKING IT DOWN TO ONLY CARRYING 2 KEYS NOW ONE FOR THE HOUSE AND MY TRUCK.
I've got a 2015 GMC Sierra with a key and fob. For me this is the perfect balance. You have all the conveniences including remote start, but you still have the positive mechanical ignition. I'm fully aware of the chips inside and the electronic handshakes, etc, that have to take place, but especially for a truck, it just feels right to turn a key and hear the dirtymax.
You missed the stupid BMW key with a fricken screen on it.
😂🤣😂🤣
You could probably watch you tube on it
I’m sticking with the old days of multiple keys. 1995 F-250.
I prefer the new keys - it is so convenient.
The newest? Just don't lose it, and hope it doesn't die.
@@cruelchris3099 That's why one of the next evolutions will be having the transmitter implanted under your skin.
@@jamesbeaman6337 Imagine dying. Now the car will have to be electronically picked by the dealer for the family to get into it. Now you have to be there for the mechanic to turn it on. There is just a bunch of wrong with that idea. Sign me up for the standard fob before that chip. Also no one with a good faith will ever do that. The Anti-Christ would plant a chip into the skin. It's in the Bible in regards to the end of the world.
The switch blade type broke real easy. It happened to a couple of mid-2000’s cars we’ve owned. The key with lock/unlock built into the key itself from the early to mid 2000’s, just makes the key look too big and bulky. I don’t wanna pull out my wallet to look for a credit car like key to lock/unlock my doors every time I get in or out. And how about pulling your cell phone out to do that. How about on a rainy day when wet touchscreens don’t like to work. And yah, all the so many keys from the 80’s and earlier could be pretty annoying too. My favorite were the early 90’s to early 2000’s where there was one key and one fob linked by a ring or 2, was my favorite. One key for ignition, doors, trunk, gas cap and the fob usually had lock, unlock, and trunk. That in my opinion was the best key setup made to date. Rain or shine it worked, battery dead, no problem, just use the key to unlock your car or trunk. I can hand over the key to the old lady on the front passenger seat to start the car and get the AC or heater going, while I’m strapping up the kid in the back seat. With the push button set up, she will actually have to get out and go on the driver seat to hold the brakes down and push the start button. I love technology when it’s really for the better. But I hate it if it’s one innovativation which people fall in love with, without realizing that it’s implementation took away other more useful/handy capabilities.
Auto thieves can crack into the codes of the keyless cars much more easily than cars without keyless entry.
Yet older cars were so much easier to steal...
White Boy right.
Ill stick with my one key for the old tundra , has been working great for 17 years.
The dash in your Land Rover is a little loose.
It's a Land Rover thing, you wouldn't understand. :D
jedironin380 Guess you’re right. I buy Fords.
Batteries in old fashioned keys are so difficult to change....oh, wait.......
I was waiting for Valet keys to be mentioned.
Personally i like my key. Seen to many people have issues with there push button not working. Ill stick to my old school key
steveMCHS I like mine, but when it's raining hard it's nice to have the auto locks
@@gondolagripes1674 unless im parked 5 feet from the door, id got time to put my hand in the pocket and hit the unlock button. Though i get what you mean.
You forgot the big clunky key fob that acted as a key you inserted into the ignition. Also forgot the key you inserted into the center console in order to use the push button start. Entertaining episode. I felt young to ancient in 9 minutes.
Actually the phone use as Tesla does is the future of autonomous cars for rental when after rent the user is submitting the code to company and does not need to return the key the way one has to after rental of a U-Haul or Penske truck. In fact the owner of a Tesla can allow a friend to use the car by sending the code to the fried's phone while remote or even overseas.
New keys and fobs are sweet .but since I normal drive a 92 Chevy s10 5 speed. I got keys baby. I even good enough I can drive without. Square key in it. Oops its broke. But I good with it. Save the manuals!
zoefaith120 English, you speak?
@@whitemailprivilege2830 you seemed to understand it though. Yes English
Got a 2019 versa, love the simplicity and perceived reliability. One key all metal no fragile electronics. Manual windows and transmission, simple reliable tried and true. Should not try and fix if it's not broken. Keep it stupid simple.
A few months ago, I had to have my F150 reprogrammed and two new keys made. Almost $400 later; I long for the days $2 stupid small flat keys.
Also, I miss having more than one key hole to get in the vehicle. I was frozen out of my vehicle once and wish there was some redundancy to allow me in.
I prefer $5 keys to $150 keys! I don't live in LA, and want a cheap key option. It's a manual - enough theft prevention!
Remote start has been around since the 90’s at least - remember an uncle of mine buying a new ‘96 Lincoln Town Car and showing us that “neat” feature. lol
Also the proximity sensor that unlocks when approaching has been around since the 90’s at least as well - my mom raced Corvettes as a hobby and her male racing partner brought his brand new ‘96 Silver commemorative edition down and the feature worked when we approached the vehicle.
We were so impressed by that back then. lol
I like using the old school key for the ignition on my car cause it feels like im actually doing something to turn my car on rather than pushing a button for it to turn on
I really loved the example you showed with the switch blade mechanism, you can get into the car without using a physical key, and this way nobody will ever drive off without the key. These proximity keys that open automatically are certainly subject to hacking, with a little bit of boost it can be unlocked from a long distance. It's also possible to drive off without the key in the car. All because people can't put something in a slot and turn it. Volkswagen had a terrific example they used for quite a while. key folded up quietly to a small size that would not damage anything in your pocket. Easily unlock the car, open the hatch or unlock the trunk. Battery lasted for years.
I like the push to start so then I can just leave it in my pocket.
On a 1968 f250 there is only one key that works in the the ignition and the doors I think that works the best for a truck
The ejecting keys are really nice for dropping your car at the shop. Eject and give them the fob, you get to keep your key ring intact with your house keys.
I feel as if only Nathan can make a video about keys so entertaining
You should of covered BMWs new touchscreen keys from the 7 series.
john94si it’s also on the BMW X7
Out of those shown I liked the Ram's the best. Does everything and not overly complex or too small as my eyes aren't that great anymore. Credit card is too crazy for me :-)
Nathan, u look thin
Definitely losing weight!
@@averagejoemike5600 TFLCar bankrupt?
Wee have a 2005 Dodge dakota.and the key fob died on us years ago so we just use the key now we bother never to replace it.
I did the same with one of my cars.
Love it when the keyless entry gets interference from wifi and other RF signals so your fob doesn't work, or in some cases the vehicle doesn't start. Good times, really making progress there...
Has that ever actually happened to you? I don’t have it but I know tons of people who have keyless entry and that’s never happened to any of them
@@zach4604 Yeah, actually had it happen a couple days ago, the fob wouldn't unlock the doors, I was able to start the truck once inside. Buddy works at a shop and has had this issue multiple times, FCA vehicles seem to be particularly susceptible, though they are not the only ones having this problem
4K?
360p is my best option
144p ftw!
I don’t like the ram and other brands to honk the horn when starting the car :( if you living in apartments area LOL 05:00am in the morning you wake your neighbors LOL,
What’s the point for the comments you guys never answer them only ho paying you guys only answering:( LOL
Search the 2011 venza. It does everything the ram.
Press the lock button 3 times and it starts
Walk up to the car and it unlocks
Try to lock the car with the key inside and it will make a noise to tell you "you forgetting something buddy?"
There's a touch button on the outside you slide you finger on and it locks
Trunk button
Lock button
Unlock button
2011 venza my favorite car I've owned so far
A friend of mine had a Chevy Beretta. Comes out of the mall, grabs his keys, opens the door, gets into the car and realizes it's not his car based on the interior color. Get's out.. the exterior color is correct. Checks the plates... nope not his car... looks around and a few cars away sees his, all is well. What are the chances of the same exterior color, in the same mall parking lot, a few spots away, on the same day, having a completely different Beretta with the same key/lock?
I own both a 91 Beretta, and an 89 cavalier Z24 convertible. As the keys get old and wear out, that's entirely possible. My Beretta door key will in fact unlock my Z24. However, the Beretta being a 91 has a resistor in the ignition key so my ignition keys won't interchange.
@@williamsinger4124 This happened in the early 90's so the keys were not worn out yet at that point. ;-)
@@belakerkay1414 yeah they use a six cut key system for both the ignition and lock (I own a hardware store, I must've cut a million keys by now lol) so I truly believe that happened. There's only so many patterns that can be cut, just like Harley Davidson bikes. Them keys interchange far more often than one realizes
Keys all the way!
Tesla doesn't have a key.
I just bought a 1985 Cadillac Seville I have have 4 sets of keys. 2 sets of regular and the 2 sets of Gold Keys.
Do the Gold Keys work better?
76 f100 one key for both 89 f150 2 keys. cheap to replace and can go swimming without fail. love the old stuff
I cant stand key fobs. We own 2 2nd gen trackers and a 00 chevy van all had key fobs. They were a pain to program so, i through then the junk drawer thats three things i dont have to replace a battery or the fob bc of worn out buttons.
Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth had the best...Same key for the door and ignition...They had another for the console lock,glove box lock and trunk..That's what my 68 Charger RT has and i own many Mopar's and they did this from the 1950's to 1980's..In the 80's / 90's they changed to 1 key then 1990's they had a key fob on higher trim models..
Problem with key fob,you break it you cant drive your car..Battery in fob dies your car cant drive...The problem with keyless.key fobs you also have a separate computer $1000 that runs the key fob and or keyless !!! Where as a old style key you have a spare in your wallets change compartment and you can always start and drive away..Keyless you have several expensive computers that have to work otherwise you cant drive anywhere !!!
I'm 35 and remember when I was a kid and my first old junk trucks all had 3 keys. Ignition, Door, Glove-box. Now I have a 2014 Altima SV with push button, I can roll down the windows with the fob, start the car, pop the trunk. I hate to admit it but the car's absolutely spoiled me. My 2018 Ram Promaster I bought instead of a truck has the 'Switchblade' Keyfob key, it seems so ridiculous now after owning the Nissan lol. Great video thanks for the memories.
The thing is we took a step back going to pushbutton start. The physical key (while also being satisfying to use in my opinion) was also more secure.
I know the feeling of having multiple keys for one vehicle. Almost 15 years ago I had a 1970 Chevy Chevelle that had 3 or 4 keys. I had replaced the ignition lock so new key there. Also had a 1973 Triumph Spitfire that had 5 or 6 keys. Last year my dad bought a 2004 Mini Cooper S with one of those keys with the buttons on the key itself. When he bought the Mini the original key was damaged it would still unlock the vehicle but required a pointed object to press the buttons the rubber cover over the buttons was missing. So my dad went to Mini in Little Rock Arkansas to get a new key. Ended up spending $300 for the key and about $80 to program it to the car and about the time to drive back and forth to the dealer. He lives near Fayetteville Arkansas so it's about 6 hours round trip and he had to make the trip twice.
I hate key fobs with the key built in. I'd prefer a separate standalone key. I had that with a chevy van and mazda protege from the early 2000's. I would just leave the key in the ignition and keep the fob in my pocket. It's the next best thing if you don't have push button start. Switchblade keys suck too. Push button is really the only way to go. My last 3 cars had it, but now my new F-150 has the damn switchblade key and I hate it so much. And screw the dealers for what they charge to replace these things. It's almost $400 for my F-150 key, and its just the plain remote keyless entry fob. It doesn't even have remote start.
My 2016 ram 1500 big horn has the ram key that is just a plastic square. You still have to turn it in an ignition to start the engine but there is a separate key that is hidden inside for the doors. I wanted to make a hide-a-key for my truck but nobody would copy that small key that you have in the back of the real key. FRUSTRATING!
I like how with my new Hyundai I can be standing in the checkout line in the store, get on my phone app and start my car, have it cooling down (or warming up) while I finish paying for my goodies and walk across the parking lot. I dont even have to be near my car. Can also use the app to lock/unlock my car, handy if I'm somewhere and I dont remember if I locked my car. A few quick taps on my phone and it locks my car from ANYWHERE in the world (provided i have a phone signal! Lol!)
Also, I keep my key fob in my purse at all times and NEVER have to remove it. I do admit that there is a small part of me that misses they physical interaction of using an actual key, but with the today's convenience, I cant say I miss it alot!!
Another key design that GM still insists on (Colorado/Canyon) is a LARGE key fob with a completely separate large key - a throwback to something a couple of decades old. It might be the worst design currently available IMHO.
The problem with multiple keys is that back in the day automakers only made so many different keys for their different cars. I live in Kenosha, Wi the home of the former Jeffery/Nash/AMC etc. I have been told by former employees of AMC in the 60s AMC made under 10 different keys per model. I how many different frequencies automakers have for their models key fobs today.
My 97 starts using a piece of metal you twist. No idea why that wasn't working for some people. Ah well.
My 98 wrx has 1 key for doors, ignition and trunk, then bc carbon fiber and hoodpins, I have a second key.
Funny, you mention Nathan, that the automatic unlock procedure showed up in the last 5 years, with the handle sensor. When Mitsubishi had it in their cars 11 years ago. As I own a 2008 Outlander with that same feature, simply walk up, with the remote in my pocket, put my hand on the door, and boop, doors unlock.
My girlfriend has a citroën c3 with the swiss kife style key, but its huge, a pain in the but having it in your poket, and its tu big for the ignition..I have a corsstreck, normal key with 2 bottons its big, its uncorfotable.....but my moms 06 4 runner, a simple little key and a slim an light fob, that has all you need, lock unlock tailgate window down and the panik botton, I love it, most of the time i forget i have it with me, just like the 1 key for all of my 83 mercedes w123....those are the best kind of key
Meanwhile my 4Runner's keyfob (2005) is not only separate from the key itself, but also has more functionality than your LandCruiser's key (only in the sense that there is a 4th button on the face to drop the rear window, I wish it could also raise it back up, but whatever i guess)
Modern day push button start is BS my wife has a Ram 1500 with a 5.7 Hemi and the key fob is a Bane on our existence always loses signal to the truck and sometimes leaves are stranded at work or unable to get to work I never had any problems with the old-school Turn-Key work good that's all I care about
Hate keys, and no keys are better. Love push button start. I'm always carrying stuff and in a hurry and just opening the door without touching my kids and turn on the engine with having to dig through them is priceless. That's the only modern feature other than LED headlight and electronic parking brake that I like. I dont mind not having blind spot, pedestrian detection, lane keep assist, leather, good sound, 8 inch screen (5 in is perfect) no heated seats
The old 80’s GMs where you could take the key out while it was running. Got pulled over in an 89 Beretta GT, the cop told me to turn the car off and took my keys away. But I didn’t turn back the ignition so I could still start the car for heat as I waited for my ticket. Trying to explain how I could start the car still, and seeing his facial expression when I showed him was hilarious
Here in Europe the firts time I saw a car with 2 keys where my first Corvette (1988). Cars from the 70s and upp that I know of all hade 1 key (I'm born 1974)
Every pro comes with a con. New tech. makes things convenient. Then everyone worries it will break. And it will be a lot of time and money to remedy the issue.(s) Old tech. can be inconvenient and painful. But much easier and more reliable to work with. If you want to go keyless everyday, that is great. Want to go swimming or scuba diving? Um, going to have to get a waterproof thing a ma bob and wear it around your neck. Using a standard metal key.. still have to hang around your neck but you don't need to waterproof it. lol
2 things: First, I live Ford's keyless entry pad, whether the old-school buttons or the newer touchpad in the driver door. Second, I used to drive a 92 Jeep Cherokee, and happened to park near another one of similar model year and same color. I had a key for the locking gas cap and one key for door/ignition. I out my key into the door, turn it and it unlocks, out it into the ignition, turn it and the Jeep starts, but then the wrong radio station starts playing. My key to my Jeep got me into and started someone else's.
I wish they had some kind of shield that would protect the buttons from being pushed while the fob is in my pocket. I can't tell you how often I've set off the alarm in the car because I leaned against a cabinet in the kitchen and didn't realize it. My 2016 Mustang also has a feature that will remotely roll down all the windows. You push the unlock button twice and then hold for some number of seconds and the windows roll down. I came out of the house at one point and found all the windows down. Fortunately, the car was in the garage when it happened but it could have been out on the driveway and I would have never known it if I hadn't had an errand to run. As cool as the fobs are, given the choice, I think I'd rather go back to a key.
New keys are a pain. They're too big. God forbid if you have more than one car and want to carry them with you along with a house key or two. I can fit my house keys(2), 2 keys for one car,1 key for another car and 2 keys for another car along with 1 key for my work truck comfortably in my pocket. If I had to have a key fob for each of these then I would need 5 or 6 key rings.
a perfect example as to why thieves have ruined our lives...if everyone was normal we would have push button start cars, latches to get into our homes, no crazy giant anti thief packaging to throw away, cheaper prices at every store...how much time have you wasted looking for you keys? i work in peoples homes so ive been locked out and making no money waiting for a client to race over with keys
Forgot to mention the signal can be copied and cars get stolen that way. Think I read someone got their brand new Mercedes GLE SUV stolen over here outside their house at night. If the keyfab is close enough the car and the fab talk and the theif can catch the signal and clone it. Keeping the key far enough away is enough but you can also put it in something that will block the signal to be extra safe. Pulling batteries out of them work I guess but would be a pain to do all the time. :P
Damn right they're better. don't need some sort of shitty chip in the key to actually start the car. It just works.
Ahh you see, with the Toyota keys at least, you can take the key out of the vehicle and get on a plane while the car is still running and in gear. No big warnings or stuff like that just a little ding from the speakers. Then you drive away non the wiser and come to the realization that the only key is now on a plane going somewhere that isn’t near the car (after you’ve dropped that person off at the airport and driven home of course). Happened to mom and I last year, and what a hot mess that was. I was still learning to drive at this point and I had no clue what to do. So I put a bunch of stuff around the car in the hopes that if someone would try to get in it while I wasn’t looking I would hear the noise and go check. Those 5 nights were not filled with restful sleep. Not sure Toyota thought of that possibility when designing a keyless system😕
all I want is just a normal key and a normal key fob with 3 or 4 buttons
Like 5 or so years ago when I was in high school I lost my only key to my 88 Dakota, I went on eBay and bought just a random lot of 80s Chrysler keys and majority of them worked because how worn out my ignition was😂
Lexus did cars key long before Tesla back 2000’s with the LS 600HL
my 1996 toyota uses only ONE KEY and one key only , it’s to unlock / lock the doors , start the car , and open the gas side , i only have one more for the bed toolbox and that’s all , my key ring is only 2 keys , simple but smart
With out watching yet YES old fashioned keys are better. Say you break your key or your fob. With a key you go to the corner hardware store and maybe $2 dollar and you walk out with a new key. Then the fob you have to go to the dealer pay around $200 or more. Then your done NO you would be wrong you have to pay them to program it. Now with the fob you come home drop the fob on the table near the front door. Well the car thieves only need a signal booster to stand next to your front door and someone next to your car and it lets them in and starts.
I prefer key fobs, easy, no need to pick it up... Except the new Wrangler, I have one and goddamn... If they make an optional tiny fob, im buying that no matter the price
I just don't like how key replacements have gone from a few bucks to a few hundred bucks. I don't buy the security excuse. Just a way for dealers to fleece you🙂
My friends volvo "key" failed cost $2800 ,120 mile tow ,3 weeks for parts..just give me an old fasioned key
The key fob and auto stop feature are hands down the worst thing about the new JL jeep. The key fob could be used as a weapon if I attached a lanyard to it. Very bad design way to bulky especially for someone who does the two pocket back up method...
I upgraded to a new gas truck from a diesel truck that was about a thousand years old and after 6 months I'm still getting in and trying to put a key into an ignition that doesn't exist and waiting 30 seconds before I start it. T he struggle is real people...
The credit card keys are 10+ years old. 06 Lexus is250 had it as a option and I'm sure it's not the first. Newest key tech is the touch screen ones