Just try to watch not on Jaimers, but on Shikieiki. This is totally like if she just can't be touched by bullets, she can even dodge seemingly walls. Even Yumemi dodged bullets more realistically than this. Shikieiki is like: "Oh, look at that! There's atoms have too much distance between them, i guess i can dodge it!"
Yet I found something I made Aya and Eiki fight, and Eiki just got straight up obliterated in two minutes Edit: I was using Familiar vs Familiar to make them fight
The only time I ever managed to 1cc this game was with Medicine Melancholy, thanks to her broken ability of slowing down the opponent into oblivion since her poison fields can stack on top of each other. It's quite funny watching Shikeiki getting slaughtered because she can't move due to being inside 4 or 5 poison fields that are on top of each other lol.
I managed to 1cc twice with Marisa, first on Normal then Hard I did intend to do it one last time on Lunatic (I will argue this game's Lunatic is surprisingly manageable, the level 2 and 3 charges can do a ton of heavy-lifting) but I just could not survive the war of attrition with Aya and up
Reimu: ".....How in the HELL are you dodging all that crap??" [insert player on the right's name here]: "Years of practice, my friend." Reimu: @_@ [insert player on the right's name here]: "Okay fine. TAS."
PoFV (and PoDD) AI is some of the most ridiculous i've seen. You can throw just about anything at them and they will dodge it. Not surprised that these types of shooters (vs an AI) aren't really that seen.
The phantasmagoria AI is something else, man. My favorite moment is 6:21 where Marisa dodges Reimu's extra. The funny thing about that one in particular, is that it didn't even *need* to dodge it like that - it's an easy, open pattern. Instead the AI chose violence and decided to give Jaimers the middle finger by deliberately diving straight through three literal walls of bullets in a row. Just because it can.
I love seeing the only Windows Touhou I haven't 1cc'ed on Normal be completely destroyed. Although I'm not surprised that I haven't 1cced it yet because it seems like everybody obtained Yukari's powers for a single game. Stupid AI abusing the 1-pixel hitbox... >_
@@BiFoxxo That's because it is. There's a difficulty based timer as to when the AI will begin making mistakes. The reason Aya and Medicine are so OP is because their abilities can fuck with that.
Shiki is, in my opinion, the hardest Touhou boss. -Yes, even more so than Yumemi.- I swear, this boss neer lets up in AI. EVER. I even made a completely bullshit dodge through a tablet, and I STILL lost. I play on Normal. ...I will never understand how this is possible, but carry on...
***** Hotdogs? The things that Shiki players use shiki for the sake of? Those things from her EX spell that fly everywhere and wall players like in PoDD?
Doesn't this kind of make it easier because all the bullets being cancelled charges your spells really quickly and, to a lesser extent, gives more points for extra lives?
@Mespritroth normal mode London rain happens all the time i know how it feals since im in London its impossible to doge rain tho you can try to dodge it but good luck
+lovethatnyancat ummm you do know that PoFV came BEFORE SWR right?, so that makes sense if this have Flowering night or maybe you are just a troll (i dunno)
The Phantasmagoria games would be so much more fun if the AI wasn't so fucking shitty. What is that unfair 1-pixel dodging BS all the damn time? Though the real question is who is harder? Yumemi or Shikieiki? I have to say Shikieiki with her bullshit rod vortex that increases the quantity as she uses it, it just screams "trial and error" to me. What do you guys think?
This doesnt looks THAT difficult to be honest, probably because the bots are affected by twice the bullets too which makes them get hit much more than usual on lunatic
PoFV AI is the ultimate proof that humans will once be exterminated by their own creations.
Detonexploder war is just a game, and we sure as hell don't want it to be TAS'ed
8 years later and this is almost become reality... just hope one of those AI are not from this game lol
this just shows, the AI can decide to phase their hitbox into another dimension if they so choose
14:27 is an amazing expression of it (5:31 too)
The AI be like
If 'hitbox' touch 'bullet'
Then {don't}
Shiki decided to send the bullets to hell and the hit box to heaven right before they reached her
How is this even possible
The CPU passes through a literal wall of bullets
Shikieiki just doesn't give a fuck!
well even if they are walls, there is still a small space you can go trough, but you have to be like god i think lol
AI: *PURE SKILLS. NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS.*
Just try to watch not on Jaimers, but on Shikieiki. This is totally like if she just can't be touched by bullets, she can even dodge seemingly walls. Even Yumemi dodged bullets more realistically than this.
Shikieiki is like: "Oh, look at that! There's atoms have too much distance between them, i guess i can dodge it!"
Yet I found something
I made Aya and Eiki fight, and Eiki just got straight up obliterated in two minutes
Edit: I was using Familiar vs Familiar to make them fight
Even reality - including atoms - bend to the power of the Yama of Xanadu.
You don't need ultra mode to double the speed and quantity of the bullets, Shiki will do it for you!
yumemi
davidmadera009 Naw, Shikieiki is harder in my opinion, though that's not saying that Yumemi is easy.
I swear, the AI is abusing the 1 pixel hit box way too much because mystias battle screamed bullshit in how she dodged.
Look at the shikieiki fight. Oh my fuck, seriously. Look at that shit.
I think the only reason the AI died at all is because they got too cocky.
***** The AI just kinda dies whenever it feels like it.
they all have 1px hitboxes?
then what's the point of reimu's passive?
@@xXSpikeMLPXxnah they just authorized jaimer to win
75% of the video - WARNING! Spell Card Attack, begin immediately after!
25% - gameplay
14:49 Yumemi-styled dodging.
Lol
Out of all the games I've ever seen, this one has the AIs that "want you dead" the most and they are VICIOUS and AGILE.
"Hitboxes are used to detect "one-way" collisions such as a character being hit by a punch or a bullet."
PoFV AI: lol
15:50 I literally could not see Shiki, at all. I had to pause the video it was so cluttered -- and she wasn't even getting hit... ;A;
The only time I ever managed to 1cc this game was with Medicine Melancholy, thanks to her broken ability of slowing down the opponent into oblivion since her poison fields can stack on top of each other. It's quite funny watching Shikeiki getting slaughtered because she can't move due to being inside 4 or 5 poison fields that are on top of each other lol.
It took me 3 runs to 1CC this game once with Reimu (However, in Easy Mode. But it's something).
And then she doesn't die anyways, because Shiki breaks the law and moves her hitbox to another dimension.
I managed to 1cc it on normal with Youmu with nothing but sheer luck. Was on my final bit of health of my final life
Yeah, that screams this game was designed
I managed to 1cc twice with Marisa, first on Normal then Hard
I did intend to do it one last time on Lunatic (I will argue this game's Lunatic is surprisingly manageable, the level 2 and 3 charges can do a ton of heavy-lifting) but I just could not survive the war of attrition with Aya and up
Stage 8 : 1 minute and 49 seconds
Stage 9 : 6 minutes and 20 seconds
WAT
Reimu: ".....How in the HELL are you dodging all that crap??"
[insert player on the right's name here]: "Years of practice, my friend."
Reimu: @_@
[insert player on the right's name here]: "Okay fine. TAS."
PoFV (and PoDD) AI is some of the most ridiculous i've seen. You can throw just about anything at them and they will dodge it. Not surprised that these types of shooters (vs an AI) aren't really that seen.
17:49 just look at Eiki,HOW IN THE FREAKIN MAKAI IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? SHE WENT LITERAL THROUGH THE WALL
The phantasmagoria AI is something else, man.
My favorite moment is 6:21 where Marisa dodges Reimu's extra.
The funny thing about that one in particular, is that it didn't even *need* to dodge it like that - it's an easy, open pattern. Instead the AI chose violence and decided to give Jaimers the middle finger by deliberately diving straight through three literal walls of bullets in a row. Just because it can.
Mixing phantasmogoria and ultra mode is like mixing Coca-cola, mentos, baking soda, lithium and sulfur together, then drinking it all together
5:30
That hitbox abuse is disgusting
I love seeing the only Windows Touhou I haven't 1cc'ed on Normal be completely destroyed. Although I'm not surprised that I haven't 1cced it yet because it seems like everybody obtained Yukari's powers for a single game. Stupid AI abusing the 1-pixel hitbox... >_
Seems like a normal day in PoFV netplay.
Eiki: You will burn in hell for youre sins!
*Field is full of fast danmaku*
Player: I regret everything that I done please st- *Pi~CHUUN*
I thought jaimers was something.
But that Mystia AI is making everything i do on normal look like a five year old can do it. Jeez...
I know, right? It's like everybody's hitbox in this game is non-existent until the game decides, "You know what? You can lose a life now."
@@BiFoxxo That's because it is. There's a difficulty based timer as to when the AI will begin making mistakes. The reason Aya and Medicine are so OP is because their abilities can fuck with that.
Don’t you just love that the last fight takes up a third of the video?
Is this a game of find Shikieiki?
I can only imagine just how hard your heart was beating at the end.
Grats man. =3 Even if a year late.
whatever narcotics you're taking Jaimers, I need some too.
Shiki is, in my opinion, the hardest Touhou boss. -Yes, even more so than Yumemi.-
I swear, this boss neer lets up in AI. EVER. I even made a completely bullshit dodge through a tablet, and I STILL lost. I play on Normal.
...I will never understand how this is possible, but carry on...
***** I meant one of Shiki's tablet bullets lol
***** The...whatever it is she is holding xD
...The "Rod of Remorse"? Whatever it is, it looked like a stone tablet to me.
***** Hotdogs? The things that Shiki players use shiki for the sake of? Those things from her EX spell that fly everywhere and wall players like in PoDD?
Normal is hard once I get to Melancholy. The damn purple slowdown bubbles always get me killed! >m
Normal is hard once I get to Melancholy. The damn purple slowdown bubbles always get me killed! >m
1-up at the end of the first Stage...
This made me laugh so hard
10:35 Aya becomes jesus
Only reason I download touhou 9 was to have fun on the AI vs AI mode and see battles take sometimes more than 30 minutes
pofv ais choosing whether or not they want to use their hitbox
uh oh cirno's throwing gang signs
I suppose I took that end a bit too far...
Also, you're now on your third life at Sikieiki and that's the first time she took damage. Holy shit.
I. Hate. Fighting. Aya.
the AI when you got to Aya is INSANE!! exciting video!
This is pure madness
Bruh i remember not continuing all the way to eiki shiki and then spending all 3 ccs on her but still not winning
Why do you torture yourself like this?
From 14:40 to 22:15 -> The Final Stage...Wow that took a long time to beat Shiki^^
14:40
22:15
Weird how the most overused modern touhou sprites came from a spin-off
The AI is literally a TAS
Simply a difference in skill
Nice play, totally give me chill at eiki stage xD
Congrats! That was quite nice!
What're you talking about? Cirno's the strongest!
Man them lv 2 action was so satisfy
I must say, the AI takes this craziness pretty well.
Yama is such a cheater.
the perfect way to train with this: practice dodging rain in a tropical storm. Crap. My hitbox is a tad too big. >__>;;
not sure whats more awesome, this run or zil's 100 mil on PoDD
PoFV in Lunatic was already the most epic thing in the world...
In 1cc, even Cirno looks strong...
that was tense
Doesn't this kind of make it easier because all the bullets being cancelled charges your spells really quickly and, to a lesser extent, gives more points for extra lives?
Woah! Your movements made you practically look like an AI! And yet you won against Eiki with all that! And I can't beat her on Lunatic! :(
I couldn't beat her on normal not even Komachi
1cc means 1 credit complete, i think you mean ultra mode, which is an unofficial patch.
PRO
Just wondering... Is there an english patch version for Ultra? it's fine it being in japanese. but i'd enjoy it a lot more if it was in english. T^T
Search it up on moriya shrine
@Mespritroth normal mode London rain happens all the time i know how it feals since im in London
its impossible to doge rain tho you can try to dodge it but good luck
wow, the CPU is extreme cheating on ultra xD
check out the dodges from aya at 9:03
9:03
does this game get any easier or is it always that difficult?
PoFV is now the same difficulty as PoDD.
Nope, definitely more difficult
@Mespritroth good luck im already successful at dodging normal modo rain
my hands are dead
how could enma dodge those bullets at 15:50 ??? whatta cheater
Can you make a tutorial on how to install these?
Moriya Shrine
Hey, how does the soundtrack have Flowering Night for Sakuya's theme, when Scarlet Weather Rhapsody is 1.5 games ahead?
Flowering Night (Sakuya's theme) was originally in this game, and it got a remix in SWR.
+lovethatnyancat ummm you do know that PoFV came BEFORE SWR right?, so that makes sense if this have Flowering night
or maybe you are just a troll (i dunno)
@@prizmastarz742Phantasmagoria of flower view is the 9th Touhou game, scarlet weather rhapsody is the 10.5th Touhou game.
spam level 2 activate!
@Mespritroth because im talkin about touhou
Aya...what the fuck, just....stop!
The Phantasmagoria games would be so much more fun if the AI wasn't so fucking shitty. What is that unfair 1-pixel dodging BS all the damn time?
Though the real question is who is harder? Yumemi or Shikieiki?
I have to say Shikieiki with her bullshit rod vortex that increases the quantity as she uses it, it just screams "trial and error" to me.
What do you guys think?
That first Marisa fight was complete bullshit.
This is your idea of fun? o_0
5:04 NIGHT OF NIGHTS!!!!!
5:04
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Never played this game but im sure you guys will appreciate the video above.
norm play VS TAS play lol
?!?!
This doesnt looks THAT difficult to be honest, probably because the bots are affected by twice the bullets too which makes them get hit much more than usual on lunatic
That makes no difference. AI or should I say RNG decide when you win. It is just a matter of surviving long enough.
are u human?
Clearly he is since he died alot whilst fighting Eiki
22:03 Close call bro, you nailed it.
Nggolek mati
this game is easy