My opinion, the countersunk screws used to "hold the brake rotor on" are more difficult to remove as the car gets older. I have almost broken the tip off my phillips bit using an impact driver. I ended up drilling the head off. These screws do not need to be installed as they corrode and seize. I really do think that Honda purposely put these in in an attempt to prevent you from doing your own brakes. If you reinstall them, grease them good so that they can be removed easily.
Stan Coleshill those screws are a safety feature during the cars assembly so the the rotors will not fall of the car they are not necessary for reinstallation
awesome video.. like the fact you included the torque specs on the caliper bracket and caliper pins.. 54 and 17ft/lbs .. along with greasing the ears on the pads and brake cleaner usage :)
Great video! My only input is the screws that hold on the rotor aren't Phillips but JIS, which has a different profile than Phillips and comes out much easier if you use the right screwdriver!
TIP: 8:15 cleaning the stainless steel shims might not be enough. If you live anywhere where the pad carrier rusts heavily, you need to remove the stainless steel shims and clean the rust off under the stainles steel shims on the pad carrier. I use a fine file. I see too many people trying to jam in the pads and the reason is there isn't enough clearance due to the rust. The pads stick and do not slide on the stainless steel shims. Some people grind off the ears on the pads...not what I do though.
Thank you for this video! It made my pad change a breeze. I would never have known to screw in the caliper piston as I've never had a car that worked that way.
After using / bending / warping a wood clamp to push this piston in, I finally gave up and found this video. I would never have thought to screw in the piston. Thanks.
Hey i was doing my rear pads, and i took the caliper off while the handbrake was engaged, and i cant wint the piston back in. Do you have any suggestions?
A JIS #3 screwdriver is the right tool to remove the rotor retaining screws. I didn't know it and stripped a few of the screws and ended up having to drill them out. With proper JIS screwdrivers. e.g. Vessel, I haven't stripped a screw on my civic since.
6:51 you might want to use silicone spray instead of rust penetrant which is likely a petroleum product with other carriers. Petroleum products can swell seals and more importantly the caliper piston seal.
For the "rotor mounting screws", like ohers have said, use a cheap tool from harbor freight, the impact screw driver. The screws have TWO jobs. One is to hold the rotor on. Yes, lug nuts can do that too. The 2nd job for the screws involves the threaded holes in the rotor. If the rotor is stuck , and you intend to re-use it, thread the screws into those threaded holes and drive them a little at a time on each side. Can also use bolts of the same size and thread. That will break the rotor loose. I usually only remove the rotors to replace them, so out comes the BFH. It always comes loose. Hearing protection recommended.
My only problem with this video is there isn't nearly enough rust on those brakes for a Midwestern winter, which adds another level of difficulty. It should look like barnacles growing off the calipers. Knowing what size grinder you need to get through that would help. Other than that, awesome video!
the rotors themselves not moving after tightening the rotors set screws, left them off but after putting all back together and tightening the wheel is not moving. Any suggestions? Thank you
Questions. Are there any differences between automatic and manual transmission rear brake jobs? I know in the video it says you have to release e brake to remove caliper but then what is holding my car from rolling?? I have a standard transmission.
Is it possible to over tighten the brake piston? the braking seems fine, but in park with the e brake engaged the back right brake pad doesnt fully touch
If those rotor screws won't come loose, you can use some rust penetrant, and use a ratcheting screwdriver or one that you can hit with a hammer. Sometimes it's best to go to your local Honda dealer and buy a set of those rotor screws if you accidentally strip them while trying to get them off. It's worth a few bucks to replace them.
Screws in the rotors are JIS not Phillips. Use a #3 JIS and your life will be easier, stripping them is a hassle. Add some anti-seize to the screws to save the next guy a headache someday. Buy a brake pad kit that comes with new hardware (shims clips). OEM, Akebono, Stoptech Good video!
Any opinions on the brake grease debate? Doesnt it just attract particles and dirt that hinder the sliding process that would not otherwise stick to dry stainless steel (which also doesn't rust)
Best way to remove countersunk rotor holding screws is remove the wheel and put on the ebrake, then the rotor won't move. Remove the screw, release the ebrake and continue with the rest. I find using a small impact is the easiest, then put anti-seize on it after. A big screw driver is possible, just don't slip and damage the screw.
+rajid That is just a regular can of brake cleaner. If you go to any of your local auto parts stores they can point you in the right direction! 1aauto.com
+William Butts We do not currently carry these specific screwdrivers, we'd suggest checking out your local auto part store or hardware store to see if they carry them. 1aauto.com
+Pedro Tonhozi de Oliveira Thanks for watching! No, you do not want to put any thread-locker on those bolts, just install them like in the video! 1aauto.com
+Mirik Man Thanks for watching! Any of the pins or nubs on the back of the pad are there to make sure they are seated properly on the caliper. 1aauto.com
After the installation you should pump your brakes repeatedly until they feel firm Test your brakes at 5 miles per hour and then 10 miles per hour Road test the vehicle +TheRain911
+Pedro Moreno Beltrán Thanks for watching! The rewind tool can be found in the description of the following video: th-cam.com/video/W1HOz_2sUF0/w-d-xo.html&feature=emb_title
would have been more easier if you loosened the screws that holds the rotor first before you removed the brake calipers. with the parking brake on. then release the parking brake when removing the caliper.
8:30 Remove the caliper pin and boot before spraying brake cleaner. Once you have the caliper cleaned then lube the caliper pin with brake lubricant or grease and reinstall. You never inspect the caliper pin.
Here is the tool to remove the rotor screws... www.harborfreight.com/6-bit-impact-screwdriver-set-with-case-64812.html Do things properly. The bits are not always real good quality so could purchase a number two bit of better quality if needed or you can purchase the tekton tool that comes with better bits...www.homedepot.com/p/TEKTON-3-8-in-Drive-Impact-Screwdriver-Set-7-Piece-2905/205674679 The tool to screw in the caliper piston...www.homedepot.com/p/Lisle-Disc-Brake-Piston-Tool-LIS28600/207011085
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Clear, thorough, easy to understand, and without overly loud, annoying music. Really helped me out, thank you!
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The only person I have ever seen successfully remove the rotor screw 😂
My opinion, the countersunk screws used to "hold the brake rotor on" are more difficult to remove as the car gets older. I have almost broken the tip off my phillips bit using an impact driver. I ended up drilling the head off. These screws do not need to be installed as they corrode and seize. I really do think that Honda purposely put these in in an attempt to prevent you from doing your own brakes. If you reinstall them, grease them good so that they can be removed easily.
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I always put those screws back on with some anti-seize or grease on the screw threads so they don't get stuck again.
Stan Coleshill those screws are a safety feature during the cars assembly so the the rotors will not fall of the car they are not necessary for reinstallation
Get a JIS screwdriver as these are not actually Phillips screws. It will grab better.
awesome video.. like the fact you included the torque specs on the caliper bracket and caliper pins.. 54 and 17ft/lbs .. along with greasing the ears on the pads and brake cleaner usage :)
Great video. Thanks for including the torque settings.
Great video, that's what car repair videos should be like 10/10.
Great video! My only input is the screws that hold on the rotor aren't Phillips but JIS, which has a different profile than Phillips and comes out much easier if you use the right screwdriver!
+Ryan Smith Thank you for your feedback!
My daughter asked me to do the brakes on her Honda. Your video is great. Thank you.
TIP: 8:15 cleaning the stainless steel shims might not be enough. If you live anywhere where the pad carrier rusts heavily, you need to remove the stainless steel shims and clean the rust off under the stainles steel shims on the pad carrier. I use a fine file. I see too many people trying to jam in the pads and the reason is there isn't enough clearance due to the rust. The pads stick and do not slide on the stainless steel shims. Some people grind off the ears on the pads...not what I do though.
Thank you for this video! It made my pad change a breeze. I would never have known to screw in the caliper piston as I've never had a car that worked that way.
After using / bending / warping a wood clamp to push this piston in, I finally gave up and found this video. I would never have thought to screw in the piston. Thanks.
This is very informative. I can understand now why it costs upwards of $400 if you need new rotors and pads all round.
I am going to buy all my car parts from you guys. I love your videos.
Hey i was doing my rear pads, and i took the caliper off while the handbrake was engaged, and i cant wint the piston back in. Do you have any suggestions?
How do you retract the piston for the rear on these cars ??
Thanks for showing how to free up the boot and turning the caliper piston!!
A JIS #3 screwdriver is the right tool to remove the rotor retaining screws. I didn't know it and stripped a few of the screws and ended up having to drill them out. With proper JIS screwdrivers. e.g. Vessel, I haven't stripped a screw on my civic since.
Thanks for the suggestions and for watching! +Brian
6:51 you might want to use silicone spray instead of rust penetrant which is likely a petroleum product with other carriers. Petroleum products can swell seals and more importantly the caliper piston seal.
+A Christian Thanks for the tip!
For the "rotor mounting screws", like ohers have said, use a cheap tool from harbor freight, the impact screw driver. The screws have TWO jobs. One is to hold the rotor on. Yes, lug nuts can do that too. The 2nd job for the screws involves the threaded holes in the rotor. If the rotor is stuck , and you intend to re-use it, thread the screws into those threaded holes and drive them a little at a time on each side. Can also use bolts of the same size and thread. That will break the rotor loose.
I usually only remove the rotors to replace them, so out comes the BFH. It always comes loose. Hearing protection recommended.
Another fantastic video from A1 Auto. Thanks guys 👍
How does the piston turn to push the pads out? Is the brake pedal causing the piston to rotate out or is it the emergency brake?
My only problem with this video is there isn't nearly enough rust on those brakes for a Midwestern winter, which adds another level of difficulty. It should look like barnacles growing off the calipers. Knowing what size grinder you need to get through that would help.
Other than that, awesome video!
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Huh so you live in the Midwest too winters are like frozen hell here ain’t they
thank for the video. Question how to align the inboard pad's pin to the piston? if not the pad will be uneven wear.. thanks
the rotors themselves not moving after tightening the rotors set screws, left them off but after putting all back together and tightening the wheel is not moving. Any suggestions? Thank you
thanks, the pin on the inboard must align with the piston grove. awesom
Where do you get screw drivers that are compatible with the wrench like that?
Questions. Are there any differences between automatic and manual transmission rear brake jobs? I know in the video it says you have to release e brake to remove caliper but then what is holding my car from rolling?? I have a standard transmission.
Put in first gear.
And/or use wedges
That will stop it from rolling
Great video Thank you very much for the step for step instructions.
Is it possible to over tighten the brake piston? the braking seems fine, but in park with the e brake engaged the back right brake pad doesnt fully touch
If those rotor screws won't come loose, you can use some rust penetrant, and use a ratcheting screwdriver or one that you can hit with a hammer. Sometimes it's best to go to your local Honda dealer and buy a set of those rotor screws if you accidentally strip them while trying to get them off. It's worth a few bucks to replace them.
What do you mean torque the caliper bolts to 54 foot lbs? Where is the link for that tool? How do I know I am at 54 foot lbs?
Screws in the rotors are JIS not Phillips. Use a #3 JIS and your life will be easier, stripping them is a hassle.
Add some anti-seize to the screws to save the next guy a headache someday.
Buy a brake pad kit that comes with new hardware (shims clips). OEM, Akebono, Stoptech
Good video!
Any opinions on the brake grease debate? Doesnt it just attract particles and dirt that hinder the sliding process that would not otherwise stick to dry stainless steel (which also doesn't rust)
Best way to remove countersunk rotor holding screws is remove the wheel and put on the ebrake, then the rotor won't move. Remove the screw, release the ebrake and continue with the rest. I find using a small impact is the easiest, then put anti-seize on it after. A big screw driver is possible, just don't slip and damage the screw.
Would it be fine if I attempted to push it in but didn’t really push it in
You should use an impact driver on the screws. You may strip them out.
Great video, thanks buddy.
Without the impact screw driver, you can easily mess up the screw! Easy job with the impact screw driver!
Hey guys I have a question... I have a 2011 Honda civic si sedan, i was wondering if it's the same process for my Si and what about the E-brake?
+Daniel E The installation process should be very similar for your vehicle.
What is that spray you are using?
+rajid That is just a regular can of brake cleaner. If you go to any of your local auto parts stores they can point you in the right direction! 1aauto.com
Where did you get the screwdrivers with the wrench attachment like in the video.... Your listing did not show the correct ones that were in the video?
+William Butts We do not currently carry these specific screwdrivers, we'd suggest checking out your local auto part store or hardware store to see if they carry them. 1aauto.com
Im confused some videos show drum this show disk?
Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for the video, am going to try this tomorrow on a 2005 model, gulp, wish me luck
is the wear indicator supposed to be on the bottom?
So how do you adjust the e-brake??
At 11:29 shouldn't we apply some locking agent to the bolts to avoid it to get loose due to vibration?
+Pedro Tonhozi de Oliveira Thanks for watching! No, you do not want to put any thread-locker on those bolts, just install them like in the video! 1aauto.com
Thanks for the video
Nice, thanks so much!
Could there be any issue with the piston if it is pushed in instead of turned in like in your vid ?
For this type of piston it needs to be turned. Pushing it in directly will cause damage.
Hi what is purpose of the nub on back of pad which should goes in piston groove?
+Mirik Man Thanks for watching! Any of the pins or nubs on the back of the pad are there to make sure they are seated properly on the caliper. 1aauto.com
Will I need to bleed my brake lines to follow this video?
You dont have to bleed the brakes after doing this? Im wanting to change all 4 rotors and pads on my 08 civic
After the installation you should pump your brakes repeatedly until they feel firm
Test your brakes at 5 miles per hour and then 10 miles per hour
Road test the vehicle +TheRain911
you typically only have to bleed them if you open the system up (fluid areas)
@@TheMocardYeah but didn't he remove the brake line?
@@TheMocardnevermind I watched again and missed it was just the bolt holding the brake line to the bracket.
What about drum brakes?
What’s the correct tool for the piston?
+Pedro Moreno Beltrán Thanks for watching! The rewind tool can be found in the description of the following video: th-cam.com/video/W1HOz_2sUF0/w-d-xo.html&feature=emb_title
seems like you placed the new rotors onto a new part as well... it wasnt as shiny when you took it off
+munzolito li We will often make multiple videos for vehicles at the same time. 1aauto.com
Brilliant. Thanks
Why my 2012 civic has drum brake on the rear?
Thanks
Great video.
Thanks for checking us out. 1aauto.com +Matt McBeth
Why is there no need to bleed the brakes on this Honda Civic?
The Hydraulic system was not opened, so no air was introduced to the system
There is need to bleed the brakes. I just did it on my civic after 105,000km, and there's gunk in the brake fluid I bled out.
@@Brian-uq6jm You probably need to flush the entire brake system.
The Philips screw where bad on mine 😪
So did not want to buy that stupid tool for the piston. Thanks for everything
Excellent
Thanks for checking us out! +hockeyeast
Isn't this the front brake pads and rotors?
would have been more easier if you loosened the screws that holds the rotor first before you removed the brake calipers. with the parking brake on. then release the parking brake when removing the caliper.
8:30 Remove the caliper pin and boot before spraying brake cleaner. Once you have the caliper cleaned then lube the caliper pin with brake lubricant or grease and reinstall. You never inspect the caliper pin.
What is the size of the bolt at 0:54?
Greg Myers-he said 12mm
That disc is red because the caliper is sticking needs replacement
I've had mechanics put so much torque on my lug nuts that they broke off when I tried to take them off later.
Thanks for the comments and for watching! +BEAVIS
It wasn't torque they cross threaded the lugs.
@@irvingestave6903 wrong
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East Coast Car.. look at all that rust.
Here is the tool to remove the rotor screws... www.harborfreight.com/6-bit-impact-screwdriver-set-with-case-64812.html
Do things properly. The bits are not always real good quality so could purchase a number two bit of better quality if needed or you can purchase the tekton tool that comes with better bits...www.homedepot.com/p/TEKTON-3-8-in-Drive-Impact-Screwdriver-Set-7-Piece-2905/205674679
The tool to screw in the caliper piston...www.homedepot.com/p/Lisle-Disc-Brake-Piston-Tool-LIS28600/207011085
Does this apply to "Si" models as well?