We the customers are in a relationship with the company and they abused our trust. An abuser in a relationship rarely reforms their ways. Once an abuser always an abuser.
I don't care what the MoCo does. It's none of my business. I have a '97 883 and an '02 Dyna. Those bikes have nothing to do with this, so I don't care.
ITS A KICK IN THE TEETH AND THAT MEANS ONE THING- WE ARE AT WAR AND HARLEY DAVIDSON IS OUR ENEMY AND EVERY WOKE QUEER THAT SAYS WE SHOULDN'T BOYCOTT SHOULD BE PUT ON THE "NEVER LIST" never able to own a Harley Davidson.
It would have been fine if they donated to all the lgbtp and just made everything in America and had the American flag, big engines, guns in all of their commercials.
Zeitz is totally out of touch with the American Harley Rider. All he cares about is his WOKE agenda and bleeding Harley dry for his own personal benifit. Zeitz needs to GO!
@@jerzilla3795 only people that were offended were the really stupid idiots who believe stupid lies told by really obvious liars. obvious to anyone with a brain between their ears. a whole bunch of worthless sheeple fell inline and bahhhhed. bah bah bah. sell your stupid piece of sh*t harley because they LIED to you.
Not that I would buy one, but I'd like to see them make an engine that sounds and feel like a Harley, and bring back the EVO Sportster. Even if they weren't a woke company, and even if their bikes were reasonably priced, they just don't make anything I want. Neither does any other motorcycle company.
Since the AMF buyout in '69 the family lost control of the company. Willie G was a participant in management throughout the AMF years, and one of the principal members of the buyback in 1981. He retired from H-D in 2012. The board today couldn't care less about motorcycles or bikers.
@@mikeadams2351 Did I say I was going to sell my Harley or say that I was a big powerful man? No I didn't, but I will not buy from a company that wastes money on DEI, supports pushing disgusting agendas on kids. Harley should concentrate on one thing. Building bikes. Know who your core customer is. They used to teach that in business school.
@@GixxerFoo all the money they make per bike , a person would think they care about the heritage of ridding a Harley , the buyer is Harley Davidson. ..... Really. ......
Wouldn’t trust Harley, or most corporations anymore. They will just start keeping quiet and keep on unless they are found out! Been on a Harley since I was 16. Now 70, sold mine, not looking back. I don’t trust Harley, period.
well stupid minorities don't get a lot of traction that's for sure and that's what you are. enjoy your idiotic ideas, share them with other idiots, pat each other on the back BUT unless you're just full of hot air and don't have the guts to back up your own words you'll sell that harley and never look back. strong men never look back.
Until Harley-Davidson kicks out their entire board of directors - including their Marxist CEO who they imported from Germany, I’ll NEVER ride another Harley-Davidson motorcycle. Both my 2002 FXSTS and my 1979 FLH will be little more than “dust catchers”, taking up space in my garage. The batteries have been removed, and the fluids drained in preparation for a very, very long winter… perhaps until after I’m no longer around to even give a damn anymore. Until then, I have plenty of Hondas, Triumphs, and just about every other brand of motorcycle that I will be riding. As I’ve been a motorcycle collector for decades, I’m set to “ride this out” until I’m satisfied with the outcome. And if that means H-D goes belly-up, so be it. America still has Indian motorcycles to ride, and I’m gonna go check out their showroom this weekend.
What is not contained in the statement is a part that says "stakeholders will not influence future decisions of Harley management". That is where they went wrong to begin with. After that they need to expunge the CEO and the Board.
Until Harley Davidson fires the ceo and the whole board of directors, nothing will change. Only your actions will tell us the real story not your lip service.
I've been a Harley owner and enthusiast for most of my adult life, and a Harley mechanic for a living for 30 years (independent shop line mechanic for 24 years, then owning my own shop for 6 years till I retired). Hell, I have a Harley-Davidson tattoo. I own 3 Harleys, plus my wife's Electra Glide trike. But I haven't wanted anything to do with the "Motor Company" since about 2010, when they came out with the "Digital Technician" , which basically meant that to make any adjustments to a later-model bike's electronics, including small things like adjusting the fuel-injection map if we changed mufflers, cams, or intake parts, or re-calibrating the anti-lock brakes if we changed out a brake line while installing different-height handlebars, the bike had to be taken to a Harley dealer. At that time, the company freely admitted that it was to keep independent shops from working on their bikes. I love their bikes, the Motor Company can kiss my fat furry ass.
I ride a built 2000 Deuce. The dealership hasn't had anything I need in a very long time. Other than an oil change, they wouldn't touch my bike. I support Indy shops.....period.
Screw them for this idiotic gaslighting manipulative-as-my-ex-wife statement. Flat out, Zeitz has to be fired. Getting rid of the board will take longer but they ultimately need to go too.
I'm 68 year old male from Oklahoma with cancer. I was raised full hard scrabble poor with everyone working. A beat up HD when I was 14. The only thing. It was a piece of junk but it was mine and I paid for it hauling hay in hot OK summer's. This was my only transportation. Plus I got my MC license when I was 15 (OK) so at least I was legal. I remember an old girlfriend seeing a faded out picture of me as a kid working on my bike with a huge wrench in my back pocket. She asked if it was to look tough and I just laughed and said it was because every time I stopped I had to tighten something up. Even the one I had then was when HD was producing junk. Transitioned to cars and trucks but always had a HD in the garage for weekends or rides with my friends (never an MC). We all knew that HD was not the best made MC in the game. Honda had came through and decimated the market when they went to big bikes. Not the best, higher prices, a piece of junk for a few years yet I stayed loyal to HD. We all did. We kept the company alive more than once when it was going under. LOYAL. That's what HD riders are. LOYAL. That means nothing to the current CEO and board that are having a Bud Lite and watching Disney. I had to downsize on my bike. Not enough strength to pick one up when I drop it (nice way of saying "not paying attention") plus I didn't have the ability to take rides. I downsized to a very lite HD made in the 70's that was probably their worst bike ever, but I can handle it. Now it's going out the door and I'll just ride the 75 honda cb360t I restored myself. Unless the CEO and board resign and a CEO from the US is found that knows bike's. I'm not coming back. Plus they think pushing HD's in other countries will do anything, they had better see what those folks are riding right now. Other than the chapters of MC's from the US, the public is not buying HD's.
You are correct, they didn't apologize, no remorse except for getting caught and no signature on the statement. They will continue their woke policies of supporting gay pride, drag queen shows for kids, etc. and try and keep it quiet.
Aye, long story short, they'd rather support groups who have no interest in their product, whilst giving their current loyal customer base the shaft pretty much. I say this as a non HD guy, I usually buy japanese or triumph...but I was always under the impression that HD owners love their HD's because they are an old classic US brand, that I'm assuming are still made in the US, the lifestyle and the general culture that comes with owning that sort of bike, the pride too. I can relate, my triumph is not only one of their underdog machines, but it was made in the UK just down the road from me, I get a sense of pride and love it to bits (even when it has every issue you can imagine...made in england afterall 😂) Why would HD bosses even think this was a smart idea in the first place, and their response is a joke.
There is a reason, why none of the Performance Upgrades that I felt were necessary on my 2023 Street Glide where manufactured or sold by HD. Suspension Ohlins, Cam Upgrade Zippers, Foot Controls Thrashin, Tuner Dyno Jet, Exhaust S&S, Lighting Custom Dynamics, Bars Vindikta Hoopteeze, Windshield Freedom Shields......Shift Linkage Thrashin, ....... My point is.....I'm not complaining about customizing it to my liking......I'm upset that the best and most reliable performance upgrades come from aftermarket manufacturers and Not Harley Davidson..... As Always, Gixxer Fantastic Content!
I don't understand why Willie G and the family did not keep a 51 percent interest in the company. If they had, this problem would not have happened. You think they would have learned something after the AMF fiasco
This was Possibly the BEST Video on the Harley Davidson Debockle on the Internet. Gix, YOU NAILED IT. Not Only did Harley Davidson bite the hand that feeds it, It added INSULT to Injury by putting out a Lame statement designed to Placate The Toughest, Greatest People on the Planet: The AMERICAN Harley Davidson Biker. I know this channel generally focuses on Certain Harley Models, their quirks and Graces, but these 3 points had to be said: 1) Fire Jochan Zeitz 2) Replace ALL Board Members 3) Install a CEO and Board who are HARLEY DAVIDSON ENTHUSIASTS. We Don't want Marxist/Communist/Racist Hiring and procurement policies; WE JUST WANT GREAT AMERICAN MADE HARLEY DAVIDSON MOTORCYCLES FROM THE COMPANY WHO'S ONLY CONCERN IS MAKING AND KEEPING THE GREATEST MOTORCYCLE BRAND AT THE TOP OF THE HILL. Please mention in every future Video how many days it's been that Jochan Zeitz has ignored the call for him to step down. Cheers!
I think most if not all of us agree very strongly with hotrotts6467 statement above. I was going to say the same thing, but insted of being redundant, I'll second the motion and agree.
@@herpiegerbstick6808 Well, brother, you think Wrong and that's not what I said. I Said what I Meant: "Greatest Motorcycle Brand". No other comes close. If you disagree, that's your prerogative and right.
I think we deserve some kind of Mission Statement from the Board concerning what is envisioned for the future. This would be a good time to return to the “legacy” bikes like the Wide glide and the Softail slim. Those 2 bikes were what represented what Harley was, but were the first to get the axe.
Jochen Zeitz, the ceo and chairman of the Livewire, obviously needs to go. Imagine being invested in HD stock and having this guy ruining profits and growth!
Since I was a kid of about 9 and a guy rode his Harley over to show it to my dad I’ve wanted one. But always being out of my budget for one reason or another( mostly life ) I had to settle for motorcycles I really didn’t love the closest I got to a Harley was Norton and triumph until I was 60 years old and I finally bought a roadking which is fitting because I felt like a king every time I threw may leg over that scooter. Few thing in my life brought me the joy that motorcycle did. That is until now. I am an unforgiving type of person. In my opinion Harley has sealed their fate when it comes to my dollars.. my goal was to buy American and I do when I can. I was saddened to find out that a lot of Harley parts are outsourced to other countries but I overlooked that because it was still an American company. But this , this I can not forgive regardless of what they do to try to fix it. So my next motorcycle will be an Indian
Amen, their shipping jobs overseas. I love my Harley but I won't buy another new one. Fire the CEO and Board and your employees will thank you and build and sell bikes like they use to.
Refreshing to hear your honest opinion and staying completely sponsor free. Their apology is like a back handed compliment. They might as well have said, " Bless your hearts, America."
Make Harleys in America and lower the prices so the working man can afford them. Also, quit with this "stage" shit for motors. Bring back the Sporty and the Evo. Higher trim bikes should come with high horsepower motors stock. Also, quit raping us with the astronomical maintenance prices. Dealers should be kissing our asses for the prices we pay.
Exactly how can you lower the price when it cost 10x the amount to produce in America? They aren’t sold directly to consumers, so eliminate dealers? Harley makes the majority of its profits from the 20-30% interest they charge. How can you lower that without loosing money? Everyone says make them affordable but nobody can say how.
@@lookingbehind6335 When a man shows up at the Chevrolet dealer in a new corvette C8 he expects to be treated with dignity, and is. The same goes for Harley Davidson. If the dealer is nothing more than a place to fleece you of more money after the sale… and decline your warranty work. I’m gonna hold off for a bit before I pull the trigger on a new bike. I don’t really want an Indian, might have no choice.
What percentage of Harley-Davidson parts are made in America? Some are partially disassembled, shipped to Europe or SE Asia, to be final Assembled and sold in those parts of the world, Modern Harleys are only 70% US made parts. Frames, engines, gearboxes, clutches are US made, but forks are Japanese; modern EFI is British Delphi.Aug 26, 2022
If you've been paying attention to what Harley's been doing the last ten years or so on a corporate level, none of these "revealations" are much of a surprise. Love the bikes, just not crazy about the company.
This was, “Shorting Stocks,” strategy. They made money by, “Temporarily Tanking The Stock.” Shorting is, “Borrowed Money,” with no likelihood of HD going out of business.
I just drove by a Harley Davidson dealer in Colorado. I saw 2 vehicles in the parking lot. And 2 guys taking a riding course. This is about right. If one sees any other vehicles in a Harley Davidson parking lot, those are usually the employees. Not any customers.
I drove by our local Harley Shop today when they were out side setting up as they were opening. I was thinking that I feel sorry for the dealers. These are good people that are having to deal with a Woke Corporation and it will hurt these local local people financially.
I sold my last Harley this past February - a 2002 Road King. It was a great looking bike with loads of add-ons. I just got tired of the little items that were failing. Also, the fact that Harley doesn't take care of their known issues - TC cam chain tensioners, M8 oil pump, PA frames, etc. I'm down to just my reliable Suzuki Vstrom now! Harley Davidson needs to get it together now and take care of their customers, not their shareholders!
I was just about to drop a ton of money on a new Harley. When I went home to mull it over I saw all this crap. Immediately stopped looking at Harleys. I won’t buy another Harley till the board and CEO are gone and the company is back to its roots. So never I guess. Not a loss in my eyes.
I didn't think much of the company after they dropped out of flat track racing after such a long history in the sport. When Indian started kicking their ass they just quit.
This has been a strange relationship for as long as I can remember. Dating back to the 60s. You have a group of people who absolutely love this machine. They plan Christmas, birthdays, vacations around it. Even their retirement. They name their children after it. Tattoo it's name on their bodies. Yet hate the people who build them. Not the factory workers of course. The corporation as a whole.
This isn’t the dealers fault either. I can’t tell you how many times someone has called my work blasting us for the manufacturer’s decision. This is a business that I use to feed my family and it for sure affects all of us.
Dealers (not all, but the majority), need to be held responsible for their overpriced and incompetent service departments and mechanics (the mechanics want to to referred to as “technicians), but many are entry level mechanics, just the mechanics at auto dealerships, they are paid by quantity and not by quality.
I’m not biting until the German shoe salesman, and his cohorts are given the boot. I am just as content riding an Indian, or a gold wing. I’m not getting rid of my Harley’s, but I’m also never going to take them to a dealership for service, or repair. For those of you that think that’s not going to make an impact. Service, and repair are the bread, and butter of a dealership. There isn’t much meat on the bone for motorcycle sales. The Mom, and Pop shops are more than grateful for all the new business.
I’m a CPA with 25 years experience and 30 years of riding, the 10 most recent on Harleys. I’ve been to rallys, Sturgis, several over 1,000 mile road trips. I’ll volunteer to be CEO.
This CEO is going to KILL HD. HD needs to fire this CEO and get back to basics and win public confidence again. Makes you wanna go out and buy an Indian.
I do not like what this CEO has done to the motor company! They may have put out a statement that the DEI is no longer, but I don’t believe it. Put the million dollar bogan as the CEO. That dude rides EVERYWHERE. I mean he even took his road King from laidlaw HD down through the Bolivian death road and back! He loves Harleys and rides them A LOT!
It’s as simple as evolve or fall by the way side. In 20 years none of us are going to be buying HDs anyway because we won’t be alive or walking to do so. It’s just business! Get ahead of the curve for the future buyers and riders. In a nutshell budlight was never a good beer to begin with. Cheap beer and cheap bikes are what I grew up on and that’s where I plan on staying, however I’m not the future lol and that’s a fairly smart guy to realize who’s gonna be buying these motorcycles in 20 years. 😂 we hate it now but it’s a whole lot better than everyone riding Hondas and Yamahas
Thank you for watching and supporting the channel! I see some changes coming soon with the CEO and the board. The shareholders will get tired of losing money.
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How does this statement from Harley-Davidson make you feel? Is it a win, have they lost you as a customer, do they need to do more?
It is clearly a win, they admitted they were indeed doing these business practices. My boycott moves forward unchanged.
We the customers are in a relationship with the company and they abused our trust. An abuser in a relationship rarely reforms their ways. Once an abuser always an abuser.
I don't care what the MoCo does. It's none of my business. I have a '97 883 and an '02 Dyna. Those bikes have nothing to do with this, so I don't care.
ITS A KICK IN THE TEETH AND THAT MEANS ONE THING- WE ARE AT WAR AND HARLEY DAVIDSON IS OUR ENEMY AND EVERY WOKE QUEER THAT SAYS WE SHOULDN'T BOYCOTT SHOULD BE PUT ON THE "NEVER LIST" never able to own a Harley Davidson.
There statement was Definitely Weak !
They're simply no longer going to PUBLICLY share their DEI policies...it's all a front...actions speak louder than words.
That's exactly what they are going to do!
It would have been fine if they donated to all the lgbtp and just made everything in America and had the American flag, big engines, guns in all of their commercials.
Bud light is probably still drunk by the 🌈 people! 😆
I hope they do implement the DEI philosophy. Doesn't DEI stand for Deport Every Illegal?
Kind of like how Bud Light is woke. Yet Bud is Sturgis’ main sponsor and all the Harley dudes showed up anyway. Idiots.
Was a loyal Harley Davidson customer for decades. Picking up my 2024 Indian Challenger this afternoon!
CEO has no respect for America and American bikers. Gotta go
dude's niece is Greta Thornburg............do the math
350,000,000 people in USA and not 1 CEO could be found.....
Bullseye! This is what Bush said about unchecked immigration so that jobs could be filled with workers doing the work that Americans don't want to do!
They looked everywhere but here. Don't be blind
@@cdmc012599 right. Fk them !
They don't want people that aren't left leaning and woke. Rules out the majority of US population
It's like trying to find a decent POTUS.
Zeitz is totally out of touch with the American Harley Rider. All he cares about is his WOKE agenda and bleeding Harley dry for his own personal benifit. Zeitz needs to GO!
He flat out stated in videos he came to Harley-Davidson to change it and push his beliefs on it.
He isn't making tons of money on Harley. 75% of his pay is in stock
@@GixxerFooAbsofuckinglutly True!
That idiot told us a year ago he was gonna make Harley an electric motorcycle company . People just weren't paying attention ! WTF !
How many bikes do they have to sell to pay his 43 million dollar salary 🤔
People that spend 30k on a bike has a right to criticize the company they are supporting
It was basically a “I’m sorry you were offended” non-apology.
you and your guys will "swallow" it down. they jerk and you drink. unless you actually back up your words with real action and sell that harley.
Exactly!
Exactly! Everyone was offended ❄️
Or we're sorry...we got outed
@@jerzilla3795 only people that were offended were the really stupid idiots who believe stupid lies told by really obvious liars. obvious to anyone with a brain between their ears. a whole bunch of worthless sheeple fell inline and bahhhhed. bah bah bah. sell your stupid piece of sh*t harley because they LIED to you.
The CEO needs to be fired and the board of directors all need to be replaced , that's a start !
I agree !!!
Until they get rid of the woke CEO and the woke board. I will NEVER buy another HD bike or product!!
I think it's coming soon.
Why buy junk to start with?
Weasels. "Yeah, we're sorry we got called out, and as soon as the dust settles we'll do it all again...but more sneakily."
We did not get what we want. Fire the CEO and make sure every bike is made in the USA that is what we want.
Yes!
Why? Every stitch of clothing you have on is made in another country.
and when they move production to Malaysia what are you going to do then?
AMEN 🙏
Not that I would buy one, but I'd like to see them make an engine that sounds and feel like a Harley, and bring back the EVO Sportster. Even if they weren't a woke company, and even if their bikes were reasonably priced, they just don't make anything I want. Neither does any other motorcycle company.
It's not just the ceo and the board, they need to be building Harleys 100% in the USA
Dump Zeitz and the current involved board. Return control to the Davidson family.
I am honestly shocked there isn't more family in the company.
Since the AMF buyout in '69 the family lost control of the company. Willie G was a participant in management throughout the AMF years, and one of the principal members of the buyback in 1981. He retired from H-D in 2012. The board today couldn't care less about motorcycles or bikers.
not them either. they Fd up too
The Davidson family were the ones who hired this CEO..THEY NEED TO RETHINK THEIR CUSTOMER BASE!!
This is by design. Remember what Deep Throat said in All the Presidents Men, "follow the money"!
I'm done. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that will bring me back. After all, nothing says American more than turning your back on America.
Harley corporate has such a superiority complex that they are having a difficult time accepting that in the end the customer is the boss.
keep thinking that. sell the harley and proves what a big powerful man you are.
@@mikeadams2351 Zeits looks like a P*ssy
@@mikeadams2351 Did I say I was going to sell my Harley or say that I was a big powerful man? No I didn't, but I will not buy from a company that wastes money on DEI, supports pushing disgusting agendas on kids. Harley should concentrate on one thing. Building bikes. Know who your core customer is. They used to teach that in business school.
@@mikeadams2351 Honda and Yamaha is the way to go
@@newmobile1455 they make good bikes, but I'm crazy and love BMW boxers.
The #1 problem with HD is leadership. First, a sneaker salesman should not be ceo, and their BOD needs to go. Thanks for posting.
The Board has NO CLUE what Harley Davidson stands for and what Harley Davidson means . That's how stupid they are .
I don't think they care to be honest.
sell you harley and quit whining like a little bitch.
@@GixxerFoo all the money they make per bike , a person would think they care about the heritage of ridding a Harley , the buyer is Harley Davidson. ..... Really. ......
Wouldn’t trust Harley, or most corporations anymore. They will just start keeping quiet and keep on unless they are found out! Been on a Harley since I was 16. Now 70, sold mine, not looking back. I don’t trust Harley, period.
I also am 70 and have been on my dad's Harley since I was two. I had picture until a move lost those boxes!
Harley are behaving like the Government, they don't care what you think!
seconded
THEY'LL care when their bottom line hits bottom. Haha
well stupid minorities don't get a lot of traction that's for sure and that's what you are. enjoy your idiotic ideas, share them with other idiots, pat each other on the back BUT unless you're just full of hot air and don't have the guts to back up your own words you'll sell that harley and never look back. strong men never look back.
@@elliott9139 it already has. they been juicing their numbers for years. watch Fortnine’s video on Harley from 2-3 years ago
They just have to learn that unlike the government they can't tax you to still get your money.
Until Harley-Davidson kicks out their entire board of directors - including their Marxist CEO who they imported from Germany, I’ll NEVER ride another Harley-Davidson motorcycle. Both my 2002 FXSTS and my 1979 FLH will be little more than “dust catchers”, taking up space in my garage. The batteries have been removed, and the fluids drained in preparation for a very, very long winter… perhaps until after I’m no longer around to even give a damn anymore. Until then, I have plenty of Hondas, Triumphs, and just about every other brand of motorcycle that I will be riding. As I’ve been a motorcycle collector for decades, I’m set to “ride this out” until I’m satisfied with the outcome. And if that means H-D goes belly-up, so be it. America still has Indian motorcycles to ride, and I’m gonna go check out their showroom this weekend.
The board put that CEO in place. The whole board needs to go too.
What is not contained in the statement is a part that says "stakeholders will not influence future decisions of Harley management". That is where they went wrong to begin with. After that they need to expunge the CEO and the Board.
Harley Davidson NEEDS to FIRE the CEO & the Board of Directors. That's the ONLY TRUE way to regain the original customer base.
HD is the CEO and board. It would be the shareholders coming together to force that action.
nah. the dweebs that believe DEI is somehow bad need to sell their harleys and put their actions were their mouths are..in the gutter.
Harley needs a lesson to remember.. keep boycotting..
They have nothing to worry about. I won't be buying another Harley again. So they can continue selling their PrideGlides.
Pride Glide nice.
😂
I'm scraping the hog but I'm keepin the little leather cap and arseless chaps
@@hodaka1000
@@MajorDrama1
I don't really like motorbikes, I'm only in it for the leather 🦄
Until Harley Davidson fires the ceo and the whole board of directors, nothing will change. Only your actions will tell us the real story not your lip service.
The Queer CEO has got to GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
😂😂😂
does he putt from the rough?
That would be an apology
I've been a Harley owner and enthusiast for most of my adult life, and a Harley mechanic for a living for 30 years (independent shop line mechanic for 24 years, then owning my own shop for 6 years till I retired). Hell, I have a Harley-Davidson tattoo. I own 3 Harleys, plus my wife's Electra Glide trike. But I haven't wanted anything to do with the "Motor Company" since about 2010, when they came out with the "Digital Technician" , which basically meant that to make any adjustments to a later-model bike's electronics, including small things like adjusting the fuel-injection map if we changed mufflers, cams, or intake parts, or re-calibrating the anti-lock brakes if we changed out a brake line while installing different-height handlebars, the bike had to be taken to a Harley dealer. At that time, the company freely admitted that it was to keep independent shops from working on their bikes. I love their bikes, the Motor Company can kiss my fat furry ass.
Harley will continue to gaslight everyone as needed. They will regret their actions in the end.
I ride a built 2000 Deuce. The dealership hasn't had anything I need in a very long time. Other than an oil change, they wouldn't touch my bike. I support Indy shops.....period.
Screw them for this idiotic gaslighting manipulative-as-my-ex-wife statement.
Flat out, Zeitz has to be fired. Getting rid of the board will take longer but they ultimately need to go too.
I'm 68 year old male from Oklahoma with cancer. I was raised full hard scrabble poor with everyone working. A beat up HD when I was 14. The only thing. It was a piece of junk but it was mine and I paid for it hauling hay in hot OK summer's. This was my only transportation. Plus I got my MC license when I was 15 (OK) so at least I was legal. I remember an old girlfriend seeing a faded out picture of me as a kid working on my bike with a huge wrench in my back pocket. She asked if it was to look tough and I just laughed and said it was because every time I stopped I had to tighten something up. Even the one I had then was when HD was producing junk. Transitioned to cars and trucks but always had a HD in the garage for weekends or rides with my friends (never an MC).
We all knew that HD was not the best made MC in the game. Honda had came through and decimated the market when they went to big bikes. Not the best, higher prices, a piece of junk for a few years yet I stayed loyal to HD. We all did. We kept the company alive more than once when it was going under.
LOYAL. That's what HD riders are. LOYAL. That means nothing to the current CEO and board that are having a Bud Lite and watching Disney.
I had to downsize on my bike. Not enough strength to pick one up when I drop it (nice way of saying "not paying attention") plus I didn't have the ability to take rides. I downsized to a very lite HD made in the 70's that was probably their worst bike ever, but I can handle it. Now it's going out the door and I'll just ride the 75 honda cb360t I restored myself.
Unless the CEO and board resign and a CEO from the US is found that knows bike's. I'm not coming back. Plus they think pushing HD's in other countries will do anything, they had better see what those folks are riding right now. Other than the chapters of MC's from the US, the public is not buying HD's.
You are correct, they didn't apologize, no remorse except for getting caught and no signature on the statement. They will continue their woke policies of supporting gay pride, drag queen shows for kids, etc. and try and keep it quiet.
Yes, and don't forget transgender clinics for children as well.
Aye, long story short, they'd rather support groups who have no interest in their product, whilst giving their current loyal customer base the shaft pretty much.
I say this as a non HD guy, I usually buy japanese or triumph...but I was always under the impression that HD owners love their HD's because they are an old classic US brand, that I'm assuming are still made in the US, the lifestyle and the general culture that comes with owning that sort of bike, the pride too. I can relate, my triumph is not only one of their underdog machines, but it was made in the UK just down the road from me, I get a sense of pride and love it to bits (even when it has every issue you can imagine...made in england afterall 😂)
Why would HD bosses even think this was a smart idea in the first place, and their response is a joke.
The ceo needs to go. The board needs the woke idiots to leave.
HD - Taking your money and using it against you.
Kind of like the United States Government
There is a reason, why none of the Performance Upgrades that I felt were necessary on my 2023 Street Glide where manufactured or sold by HD. Suspension Ohlins, Cam Upgrade Zippers, Foot Controls Thrashin, Tuner Dyno Jet, Exhaust S&S, Lighting Custom Dynamics, Bars Vindikta Hoopteeze, Windshield Freedom Shields......Shift Linkage Thrashin, ....... My point is.....I'm not complaining about customizing it to my liking......I'm upset that the best and most reliable performance upgrades come from aftermarket manufacturers and Not Harley Davidson.....
As Always, Gixxer Fantastic Content!
You have to get BLACKROCK out of the equation first.
this is the answer, the elite controlling business has damaged alot of companies because of their "scoring system" for companies.
@@joelchambers3087Bank of America controls those boards as they own Vanguard/Blackrock.
Bank cartels. Fight them and end up pushing up flowers.
@@tattoomiked4612 Well I'm headed there anyway, might as well go down with a fight!
BINGO ! Larry Fink, bill gates and their other Billionaire Nazi gestapo evil sick troopers.W.E.F.
I don't understand why Willie G and the family did not keep a 51 percent interest in the company. If they had, this problem would not have happened. You think they would have learned something after the AMF fiasco
Said it before.
"And you thought AMF was bad?"
Love AMF
AMF war dagegen Fortschritt..
Aber einen neuen Willy.G wird es nicht geben....
Rettung nur aus sich selbst heraus
Had very little problem with my 75 Sporty, at least nothing I couldn’t fix myself.
AMF had nothing on this deal.
I remember the fiberglass chairs made by AMF. They did great things with their fiberglass: furniture, saddlebags, tour packs, boattails.
We trust Harley Davidson by calling for the resignation of the CEO Jochen Zeitz and the board of Harley Davidson.
This was Possibly the BEST Video on the Harley Davidson Debockle on the Internet.
Gix, YOU NAILED IT.
Not Only did Harley Davidson bite the hand that feeds it, It added INSULT to Injury by putting out a Lame statement designed to Placate The Toughest, Greatest People on the Planet: The AMERICAN Harley Davidson Biker.
I know this channel generally focuses on Certain Harley Models, their quirks and Graces, but these 3 points had to be said:
1) Fire Jochan Zeitz
2) Replace ALL Board Members
3) Install a CEO and Board who are HARLEY DAVIDSON ENTHUSIASTS.
We Don't want Marxist/Communist/Racist Hiring and procurement policies;
WE JUST WANT GREAT AMERICAN MADE HARLEY DAVIDSON MOTORCYCLES FROM THE COMPANY WHO'S ONLY CONCERN IS MAKING AND KEEPING THE GREATEST MOTORCYCLE BRAND AT THE TOP OF THE HILL.
Please mention in every future Video how many days it's been that Jochan Zeitz has ignored the call for him to step down.
Cheers!
Greatest motorcycle? I think you mean greatest motorcycle merchandise company.
I think most if not all of us agree very strongly with hotrotts6467 statement above. I was going to say the same thing, but insted of being redundant, I'll second the motion and agree.
@@herpiegerbstick6808
Well, brother, you think Wrong and that's not what I said.
I Said what I Meant: "Greatest Motorcycle Brand".
No other comes close.
If you disagree, that's your prerogative and right.
@@herpiegerbstick6808 😂👍
I think we deserve some kind of Mission Statement from the Board concerning what is envisioned for the future. This would be a good time to return to the “legacy” bikes like the Wide glide and the Softail slim. Those 2 bikes were what represented what Harley was, but were the first to get the axe.
They have done nothing till CEO and any board members that support him are fired
Jochen Zeitz, the ceo and chairman of the Livewire, obviously needs to go. Imagine being invested in HD stock and having this guy ruining profits and growth!
Screw the MoCo. Shop Independent’s. Build your own.
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Get rid of ceo and board. They have no clue.
Thailand made motorcycle. Unless the ceo is fired and most of the board is fired they are playing you.
I've had it with harley, bought my first in 1978, just bought a new goldwing. DONE!!!!!!!
Screw the MoCo. Build one. Buy an Indian. Go to the Independent shops. We saved the culture years ago. Remember we are the culture.
Facts.
Since I was a kid of about 9 and a guy rode his Harley over to show it to my dad I’ve wanted one. But always being out of my budget for
one reason or another( mostly life ) I had to settle for motorcycles I really didn’t love the closest I got to a Harley was Norton and triumph until I was 60 years old and I finally bought a roadking which is fitting because I felt like a king every time I threw may leg over that scooter. Few thing in my life brought me the joy that motorcycle did. That is until now. I am an unforgiving type of person. In my opinion Harley has sealed their fate when it comes to my dollars.. my goal was to buy American and I do when I can. I was saddened to find out that a lot of Harley parts are outsourced to other countries but I overlooked that because it was still an American company. But this , this I can not forgive regardless of what they do to try to fix it. So my next motorcycle will be an Indian
CEO has got to go, that's the very minimum. Board members should be replaced also but we know that's not going to happen.
Debadging their bikes but still riding them lmao 😂😂😂
And one guy shooting up a 40yr old bike.
Amen, their shipping jobs overseas. I love my Harley but I won't buy another new one. Fire the CEO and Board and your employees will thank you and build and sell bikes like they use to.
I fear that even if the president and board are ousted, they’ll all receive a life funding severance package and learn nothing.
They just wanted people to shut up. They’re not backing off of anything.
And I agree with you, they blamed everyone…but themselves.
they can't back off
groomer's gotta' groom.
Refreshing to hear your honest opinion and staying completely sponsor free. Their apology is like a back handed compliment. They might as well have said, " Bless your hearts, America."
Make Harleys in America and lower the prices so the working man can afford them. Also, quit with this "stage" shit for motors. Bring back the Sporty and the Evo. Higher trim bikes should come with high horsepower motors stock. Also, quit raping us with the astronomical maintenance prices. Dealers should be kissing our asses for the prices we pay.
Exactly how can you lower the price when it cost 10x the amount to produce in America? They aren’t sold directly to consumers, so eliminate dealers? Harley makes the majority of its profits from the 20-30% interest they charge. How can you lower that without loosing money? Everyone says make them affordable but nobody can say how.
@@lookingbehind6335 When a man shows up at the Chevrolet dealer in a new corvette C8 he expects to be treated with dignity, and is. The same goes for Harley Davidson. If the dealer is nothing more than a place to fleece you of more money after the sale… and decline your warranty work. I’m gonna hold off for a bit before I pull the trigger on a new bike. I don’t really want an Indian, might have no choice.
The Board and CEO need to go, and they need to stop the plan to sell NON-USA made bikes in the USA
"Sorry, Not Sorry. We'll just call it a different name and keep on doing it."
You know the "Bud Light" thing? People just bought the other names from the same company! It was only the bad PR/ Noise they didn't like.
It's never what is said, it's what is done that matters. CEO and Board has to go, they have shown their colors and need to go
Stop buying new Harley products…buy used
DON'T BUY ANYTHING HARLEY DAVIDSON PRODUCES OVER SEAS
That means you can’t buy a Harley at all. Just because they are assembled in the USA doesn’t mean they are made in the USA.
Nothing made overseas? That's almost all on display in the apparel and accessories department!
Okay, don't purchase the bikes they are building over in another country and shipping back here 🙄
What percentage of Harley-Davidson parts are made in America?
Some are partially disassembled, shipped to Europe or SE Asia, to be final Assembled and sold in those parts of the world, Modern Harleys are only 70% US made parts. Frames, engines, gearboxes, clutches are US made, but forks are Japanese; modern EFI is British Delphi.Aug 26, 2022
I agree Harley-Davidson brought this on themselves, Surley 100 % CANNOT BE TRUSTED !!! CEO HAS GOT TO GO !!!!
If you've been paying attention to what Harley's been doing the last ten years or so on a corporate level, none of these "revealations" are much of a surprise. Love the bikes, just not crazy about the company.
Correct. And most people now are slowly awakening from their slumber and starting to properly engage with what is going on within the country.
The board will never vote themselves out. Harley is dead
The Harley CEO that received $43,000,000.00 last year. Paid by loyal customers.
Another reason to never get any name brand tattoed on yourself...
Made me laugh. . .
Harley sales have dropped 50% since 2013. The average rider age is 51. The current fan base just isn't delivering new riders or sales.
We want good products, not bad policies.
Just make the motorcycles and not get in in all this crap.
Gixxer your spot on Bro. That's the same way I read it. They need to loose that CEO, and that board, and get somebody more like Willie G.
The CEO has to GO! None of this would have happened if the CEO wasn’t driving it all to happen.
They need to stay out of politics and focus on quality .
I've been riding Harley since I got back from Vietnam. Over 50 years of awesome accident-free cross-country rides. I'm done.
Great video 100% agree. Get rid of the ceo and the board
I think we're getting close to it with the share holders making an executive decision.
This was, “Shorting Stocks,” strategy. They made money by, “Temporarily Tanking The Stock.” Shorting is, “Borrowed Money,” with no likelihood of HD going out of business.
I just drove by a Harley Davidson dealer in Colorado. I saw 2 vehicles in the parking lot. And 2 guys taking a riding course.
This is about right. If one sees any other vehicles in a Harley Davidson parking lot, those are usually the employees. Not any customers.
every dealership I've seen or been to is always kinda dead during the week no matter what's going on lol weekends are different obviously
There are companies who are listening to their customers, such like Indian, Triumph, Moto Guzzi, Ducati, Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki and Kawasaki
Back to the Roots,
Amen to that, I would love to see Harley get back there.
@@GixxerFoo same, those rebadged 350cc euro bikes are a travesty
The x350 & x500 Harleys are made in China.
I drove by our local Harley Shop today when they were out side setting up as they were opening. I was thinking that I feel sorry for the dealers. These are good people that are having to deal with a Woke Corporation and it will hurt these local local people financially.
To late they showed their cards already. I’m not buying any of their over priced crap.
I sold my last Harley this past February - a 2002 Road King. It was a great looking bike with loads of add-ons. I just got tired of the little items that were failing. Also, the fact that Harley doesn't take care of their known issues - TC cam chain tensioners, M8 oil pump, PA frames, etc. I'm down to just my reliable Suzuki Vstrom now! Harley Davidson needs to get it together now and take care of their customers, not their shareholders!
The CEO was never a good choice.
I was just about to drop a ton of money on a new Harley. When I went home to mull it over I saw all this crap. Immediately stopped looking at Harleys. I won’t buy another Harley till the board and CEO are gone and the company is back to its roots. So never I guess. Not a loss in my eyes.
I didn't think much of the company after they dropped out of flat track racing after such a long history in the sport. When Indian started kicking their ass they just quit.
They are "sad" that you don't believe in the stupid stuff they believe in. They are clowning you to your face.
This has been a strange relationship for as long as I can remember. Dating back to the 60s. You have a group of people who absolutely love this machine. They plan Christmas, birthdays, vacations around it. Even their retirement. They name their children after it. Tattoo it's name on their bodies. Yet hate the people who build them. Not the factory workers of course. The corporation as a whole.
This isn’t the dealers fault either. I can’t tell you how many times someone has called my work blasting us for the manufacturer’s decision. This is a business that I use to feed my family and it for sure affects all of us.
Dealers (not all, but the majority), need to be held responsible for their overpriced and incompetent service departments and mechanics (the mechanics want to to referred to as “technicians), but many are entry level mechanics, just the mechanics at auto dealerships, they are paid by quantity and not by quality.
I’m not biting until the German shoe salesman, and his cohorts are given the boot. I am just as content riding an Indian, or a gold wing. I’m not getting rid of my Harley’s, but I’m also never going to take them to a dealership for service, or repair. For those of you that think that’s not going to make an impact. Service, and repair are the bread, and butter of a dealership. There isn’t much meat on the bone for motorcycle sales. The Mom, and Pop shops are more than grateful for all the new business.
Harley-Davidson showed their colors, a rainbow.
I’m a CPA with 25 years experience and 30 years of riding, the 10 most recent on Harleys. I’ve been to rallys, Sturgis, several over 1,000 mile road trips. I’ll volunteer to be CEO.
This CEO is going to KILL HD. HD needs to fire this CEO and get back to basics and win public confidence again. Makes you wanna go out and buy an Indian.
I do not like what this CEO has done to the motor company! They may have put out a statement that the DEI is no longer, but I don’t believe it. Put the million dollar bogan as the CEO. That dude rides EVERYWHERE. I mean he even took his road King from laidlaw HD down through the Bolivian death road and back! He loves Harleys and rides them A LOT!
It’s as simple as evolve or fall by the way side. In 20 years none of us are going to be buying HDs anyway because we won’t be alive or walking to do so. It’s just business! Get ahead of the curve for the future buyers and riders. In a nutshell budlight was never a good beer to begin with. Cheap beer and cheap bikes are what I grew up on and that’s where I plan on staying, however I’m not the future lol and that’s a fairly smart guy to realize who’s gonna be buying these motorcycles in 20 years. 😂 we hate it now but it’s a whole lot better than everyone riding Hondas and Yamahas
Yes, the CEO and the whole board need to go. Thanks for all you do!!
Thank you for watching and supporting the channel! I see some changes coming soon with the CEO and the board. The shareholders will get tired of losing money.
HD sure showed their true colours. All the colours of the rainbow. Time to send the CEO and the board packing.
A scorpion can hide its stinger, but it always has one.
It had a real ring of "damage control" - I question how sincere they are about walking things back.
It all started to go downhill quickly around 2017. We've all noticed too late.
THIS! 👆