What do you think, these vs the Aeropex or Trekz Airs? 🌊 For me, the only real decision to make is how much the mp3 only aspect is an issue and/or how much you dislike carrying your phone. These are going to be marketed heavily as a swimming headphone I'm sure, but I think for multisport athletes, the lack of phone requirement could be as big or more of a plus. I am a huge Spotify fan, and it's a gripe to have to get my music into mp3 form, but once it's done, man, game freaking on. That said, obviously a ton of people carry their phones on runs all the time, and when I have a run vest on, I do too. I'll say that between these and the Aeropex you can't really go wrong. For me, the lack of phone + swimming is just a win.
@@luigiquique1 Xtrainerz needs to be charged after 5-6 hours of use. When you turn it on a voice will tell you about the battery status: Battery High / Medium or Low or charge me. Swim sessions of 2 hours are no problem on battery medium. Didn't try it yet when when battery was low.
Thanks mate! I'm also doing a lot of swimming and running and therefore I'm really interested in these headphones! Glad to watch a review by somebody with the same issues :D I tried the first generation of the sony walkman waterproof headphones a couple of years ago and i felt devastatingly deceived for my money and like I could never trust a business that sells swimming headphones again. So could you please tell how you like their water performance only? Can you listen to the music better than to water rushing? Do you think you can listen to podcasts or audiobooks while swimming(asking for a friend)? Can you manage not-overly-careful flip turns without losing them? Do you think it's worth buying them particularly for killing time during lane swimming? Did you perhaps try sony walkmans before? Thank you so much in advance :)
@@lukashoffmann8499 Haha, I relate! No prob. YEah, so down the line: You can definitely hear a lot of water, yes, but you can also hear music. I would think of it like this: Think of all the water you typically hear, but then add in music. It would be wrong to say that it 'blocks' the sound of water, it really just 'adds in' music. I think you could listen to audiobooks, but you might miss some details. I don't think you'd have any problem with flip turns unless you're really going wild. I don't wear a cap with them and haven't had any issues, but if you've got a cap over your ears (And therefore over the top of the hook,) I expect you would be extra fine. They never felt loose. I prooooobably wouldn't use them open-water just because that would be tragic to lose them, but I suspect they'd be fine (could also attach a little float to them just in case). I think they're *great* for killing time in lane swimming. A lot of my swims are just long, slow distance, and boredom is a pressing concern; these are great for that. Never used the Walmans, sorry.
Personally I don't like these at all for one major reason you didn't mention in this video. In order to make them waterproof they completely removed the charging port and now use some proprietary charging cradle. Nope. I need to be able to charge on the go for long trips or long shifts without having to carry around another thing. Another thing that I can break or get lost as well.
Can you please provide me some advice? How will I download music to my new headset and also I enjoy books on tape as well. Am I able to download TH-cam as well to listen to? I have not a clue on how to do this. Thank you for your help, whoever is reading my request and can assist.
I'm a 5 day a week swimmer who has yet to find a good pair of headphones. I was encouraged by this review and purchased them. The OpenSwim headphones are not for me. One huge benefit of bone conducting headphones is that the ear canal is unobstructed, so ambient sounds can be heard along with whatever is on the headphones. The OpenSwim headphones are great until water fills your ear canal, which is will do swimming even 50 yards. At that point the sound becomes all bass and bass drum, with mid-range and higher sounds completely lost: guitar, synth, instrumentation, voice--all lost. There is a reason the OpenSwims come with a set of earplugs included. In short, if you swim with earplugs, this product might work for you. If you don't and don't want to add earplugs to your swim, then this is definitely not for you.
I bought these headphones based on your review and I love them for swimming. The difference between normal mode and swimming mode is that in normal mode when you pause and play again, the song starts from the beginning. Contrary on swimming mode, when you play again it starts from where you left it.
Heyy! Really considering buying these but most underwater headphones I’ve seen usually stop working after a few weeks or a few months. If u could do an update on how they are working it would be great lol
I come from thailand . I have a question . It is damage your ear when you listen underwater for 1 hour every day. Because l feel a little bit hurt in my ear when i finished my swim . Thank you.
I just bought these after watching your review, and the sound quality demo you showed pretty much sums it up. The Aeropex / Open Air sounds a little muted, like background music, but the Xtrainerz sound like regular headphones (even without the earplugs) - they are plenty loud, good bass response and great mids. The packaging doesn't say it but it also supports the M4A format.
Thanks for the review. I love the Shokz with the extending mike arm. Being constantly on the move for work, they simply saved my life and you don't get the glare when wearing Apple Airpods.
I was really interested in the "fit" aspect of your review and it was informative & helpful. Also, good note that they've been tested in salt water. Thanks for your review.
For sure! Yeah, very very comfortable and I like them a lot. The only negative for me is hats/beanies/ etc. Perhaps if you have long hair, could be a factor? Obviously I don't experience that. 😅 But yeah, no complaints on fit at all, especially compared to alternatives. I like the behind the head style
I bought the Xtrainers. They are great! I am a Itunes user. You can only put on music that you own. I just drag my non protected music onto the headphones. They work really well underwater and they stay in place during flip turns. I do use the straps from my goggles to make them fit even more snug.
I come from thailand . I have a question . It is damage your ear when you listen underwater for 1 hour every day. Because l feel a little bit hurt in my ear when i finished my swim . Thank you.
As a reminder the aeropex are not ip68 certified so you cant swim with them. Bluetooth tech is just not to the point where it can go through the water very well. So if you want to swim these are the best way to go.
Really great review. I loved the 'imitation' of what the music will sound like. Kinda an audio freak so they might not work for me, plus, no Bluetooth..
Ha, happy to help! Yeah I've got good headphones on my desk so I always have this idea of "when I'm working out, I just want a beat," basically. I don't think any of the bone conduction headphones are ever going to be properly 'good' audio, but these are definitely a forward step over the old Trekz Air. Those are pretty muddy. The new ones still lack any sort of bass (even as someone who doesn't like bass heavy headphones,) but at least they're cleaner.
This is a awesome review.! Thanks, hey did you mention that there are some other headphones similar to this one but it's a bluetooth? what is the name of it?
Am I glad I discovered the Xtrainerz. I had the Finis Neptunes before for swimming sessions but the Xtrainerz are much much better. Better sound and better comfort! I even prefere them for during my running trips as I can hear everything around me while listening to music. If you're not a swimmer than maybe you should considder a bluetooth model. Xtrainerz are stand alone model.
Agree all around. Yeah, without swimming I'd go for the Aeropex (which is the updated bluetooth one). I still use my Trekz Titaniums a lot because of the BT, but the Xtrainerz are my preferred in general.
Thanks for your great review! I am keen to try these for swimming, however I'm concerned it will be really fiddly to get my podcasts and music to mp3. What are the other good options?
Options for getting music to mp3? I did some googling when I had these (I use Spotify mostly) and the options seemed iffy and unreliable, so I personally just gave up and used my old mp3s from like... 2006 or something, haha. Other options for headphones? While I normally hesitate to reccomend something I haven't personally used, the Aeropex seems like a great option. It's the updated aftershokz drivers that the XTrainerz have in a package that's bluetooth instead. They're probably really solid. On the 'headphones I've personally used,' man I just love the Trekz Airs so much. They've been my go to for the last 18mos. Personally, in-ear buds just don't work well for me. They *never* stay in, I hate the feeling of sweat in my ears, and they eventually unseal and then I can only hear one of them. I know a lot of people have good luck with Jaybirds, Powerbeats, and SoundSports, but they're not for me, so I don't know them well.
Would you believe I literally don't own a cd drive anywhere anymore? Even my desktop. I'd have to go to the library or something, I think. Frustrating!
I've had the Aeropex for just under a year now and I really like them. Now that it's winter in the US I do find it hard to wear them with an ear warmer headband when running though. I'm starting to get back into swim training after about a decade and I'm worried if I need these to stay entertained while training that I'll have a hard time during my first sprint tri (I am a runner and I wear headphones for races from 5k to half marathon). Also not sure they'll pair well with swim caps as I have long hair. I may overlook these things if I then didn't have to buy MP3 tracks when I'm already paying for Spotify premium and Stitcher Premium.
Hi Justin, I have Sony Walkman waterproof headphones for swimming, however sound is so low is difficult to hear the music. I find I have to concentrate hard to hear the music at their lowest volume. Can you hear the music sufficiently. I did hear your replication of sound, just want to check before I dive in & buy them. Thank you
Great review Justin. The more reviews I watch the more conflicted I become between bluetooth vs non-BT. I'm just wondering if a swimming cap will cause issues behind the ears when pulling the sides over your ears.....
I would say... marginally. I tried them with a cap just for testing and yeah, you definitely notice it more, but I wouldn't say it's wildly uncomfortable (much moreso than just wearing a cap is to me I suppose.) I do have an advantage by being bald here though!
One thing i noticed about the trekz titanium is when you take them off with music playing in them you can slightly hear the music coming out of the headphones so it might not be suitable for airplane usage as you might disturb the person sitting next to you. But thats just for the trekz titanium i dont know about the newer models.
Hi Justin, Thanks for this video. Definitely very informative! Here's my dilemma. I am an avid triathlete myself, and enjoy the swimming aspect of the race. That said, I need to wear earplugs as I can't stand the feeling of water in my ears. So far so good, as far as these Xtrainerz go. However, the interface with MP3 is a HUGE turnoff for me. I know Bluetooth is still a ways out, but I did some research and it seems like the Delphin has an answer to that. That device does have Bluetooth capability, BUT they require plug in ear buds...which would then prevent me from putting the ear plugs in that I need. So...are there underwater bone conduction headphones like the Xtrainerz that can be plugged in? Thanks a bunch!
To add to this, I use the silicon plugs that I can mold to my ear for a watertight fit. (Would be pretty cool to integrate that with earbud headphones!)
@@zbwdpt Man, I feel for you, because your needs with earplugs remind me of my own needs with normal headphones (which is to say that, no matter how many tips and fit options they claim to have, I just *cannot* get normal sport earbuds to stay in while I run) I also 100% relate to not loving the mp3 only aspect; all the music on my XTrainerz is from like... 2010 ha. Unfortunately, I can't think of any option yet. Bluetooth can physically only penetrate something like a few inches underwater. My hope is that down the road, Afteshokz will do something like Garmin did on their new watches: let you connect to Spotify and 'download' the music. That would be AMAZING and basically my end-game headphones. As is, I am not aware of any bone conducting, wired, waterproof headphones. I really thought about this and was even trying to think of like... waterproof adapters or whatever, but the real rub is that if you *can't* use earbuds and need fully waterproof, wired bone conduction, I'm not aware of any. Everything I know of is just mp3. Bit off the wall, but you could TRY getting one of the wired aftershokz and look up waterproofing sprays and such, but... Honestly, seems risky. Sorry man. :(
Appreciate the quick response! I’m glad you understand my wishlist. I love my Garmin watch! Totally worth every penny for what I use it for. And the Jaybirds I use for running are perfect for me. Swimming is just that last “if only” I’ve been trying to modify. I may still give the Xtrainerz a shot. Could be fun dusting off the old iTunes account and seeing what I can pull up. Are blue ones an option for purchase?
@@zbwdpt Man, a bluetooth AND mp3 enabled, waterproof, bone conducting pair would be basically the last headphones I ever buy. I'm not sure on iTunes actually... I never really used it. I *think* the iTunes Plus ones that were like $1.29/song had more options, but Im not sure.
According to this, it seems like anything iTunes Plus should be DRM free, but you have to convert them or something. discussions.apple.com/thread/7459594
I use Trekz Titanium where I can link via Bluetooth but I think I'll be okay with going old school. I do have a question. When you upload your mp3s to the device, are you able to arrange the order of playback or does it just play ordered by the file name?
Hi Justin thanks for the review! Love that u even tried to help us get a feel for how it sounds. I'm wondering if the volume is loud enough to listen to sermons /audio books etc. I've tried other underwater mp3 players where music is OK but it's not loud enough for speech. Appreciate if u can comment if u have tested this... Or if not... Hope u can!
Hey there! I haven't tested it for spoken word, and I can't anymore either (my pool is closed... ) I would lean to saying yes, but I can't say for sure. The thing is, you still get the sound OF water, you just get music/audio over that. It's not like they're actually blocking the water itself. For music, that's fine, but I can't say for sure on the spoken word.
@@JustinDoesTriathlon really appreciate the prompt reply!! Yes that's the experience I had with the other one too. Water sounds.... Kinda loud. Wonder if Earplugs would help though! Would u say this has a 'louder max volume' as compared to the Finis swimp3 range? (I had it a few years ago now...) No prob if u can't comment on this.
No problem, happy to. I've seen those and heard generally good things about them, but I just knew I would never get those dang buds to stay in my ear. Especially if you've already got a good chunk of music in mp3, something like this probably would be an easy swap. Then you could use the earplugs if you wanted to get the most similar sound! I was super excited to see the 2yr warranty on this. It seems like, with the products I've 'worn out' in the past, that 12-24 mos is really where it all seems to hit. Would be nice to at least make it 2.5 years or whatever, ha.
So the Sony's allow fast forwarding? The Shokz don't, but I would use it to listen to podcasts while swimming, and sometimes I like to skip the commericials, etc.
Hi Justin, Great review. What are your thoughts on the sonar audio H2O headphones? How do they compare to the xtrainers sound quality wise for swimming?
I don't know from blue tooth, mp3, whatever. Will the Xtrainerz load music from I-tunes on my computer? I formerly had a FiniSwiMP3 and had great success with it. After the fact, I read not-so-good reviews about the Fini. However, it is 10 years old and I need to replace it as I enjoy swimming with music. Trying to decide whether to replace my Fini or go with the Xtrainerz. The Fini was easy to load music onto via I-tunes from my computer. Will the Xtrainerz be easy as well?
Hi, thanks for that ! I bought them as well and really like them. One thing bugs me though: not being able to jump between folders. If I wanna reach a folder, an album or an audiobook, I need to presse like 30 times, song by song, which is even more tiring than the swin itself😉 Do I miss something? is there an hidden fontion to jusp betweens folders that I don't know of?! thanks very much !
Possibly... I don't wear a swim cap typically, but I've work aftershokz under tight beanies for 4-12 hours routinely before, and I could feel some pressure, but not what I'd personally call discomfort. I find it more comfortable than having earbuds pressed into my ears.
Hello, thanks for the comments. I have a critical question. I tried the headphones in the store but the back is a bit loose, will this cause a problem while swimming? While other shokz models have a mini size, the swim model does not. Should the back be loose while swimming?
Hi Justin - great channel. I'm looking for a new pair of wireless headphones with built-in music capability. I had the Sony Walkman BCR-NWWS410 model that I purchased in March 2018 and they literally died this morning. I'm getting into the triathlon world so something like the Samsung Galaxy ear buds (also have built-in MP3 capability) won't work as they aren't waterproof. Have you look at the Sony line at all? Just curious. I'm hesitant to purchase another pair if they are going to die after 2 years. Thanks!
Great question! I haven't. Unfortunately I have really picky ears, and earbud style phones like those never stay sealed in my ear. They always wiggle out and I spend the whole workout trying to shove them back in. Haven't used those in particular, but I've experienced that trouble for like 15 years, haha. Sorry I can't help. :( XTrainerz do have a 2 year warranty though, which is nice!
Thank you for the review! Can i ask, do they still function well almost 2 years later? I've seen many reviews of them dying after 9-10 uses with no way to fix it and complains that the company is unresponsive when filing warranty complaints so I'm hesitant to use them. Thank you!
That's a bummer, I haven't heard about that! They definitely do, I use them all the time. I actually use them more than my other Aftershokz (ones with bluetooth) because I don't like carrying my phone when I run, and these are 'self contained.' I mean, just my experience, but yeah, they work just like new.
Mine just died after 8 swimming sessions, I filed a warranty claim and Aftershokz supposedly is going to ship a new one to me in the next couple weeks...
@@michaelw.8968 Oh no i hope they pull through! I did end up getting them and they’ve worked really well for me so far (multiple swims a week for 3 months)!
I gave up on these headphones. After 3 months trying to find ways to transfer audiobooks and music from Spotify, I threw them into a drawer and forget about them. Horribly frustrating to use.
I bought a Lenovo X5 ( I am satisfied as I had that expectation of that sound quality difference from regular phones) but I wonder if I switched to Shokz OpenSwim I'd have quality gains ( louder volume ) playing the same MP3 files. By the way I only use for swimming trainning sessions and ear hole plugged with silicon ( as recommended for sound quality ).
2Christian Rosa: Salute! I have a question. Is it possible to hear some podcasts with these headphones? I have tried Sony but they are not loud enough to manage all noises in water... If I swim more or less fast, it is not possible to understand what the persons say in the podcast (I want to use them to learn languages)
Hi, great review. Someone wrote about listening to spoken word. I want to be able to listen to podcasts while swimming laps. If I download podcasts would it be easy enough to transfer these to the MP3 player (I haven't dealt with this in years)?
You got it! As long as you've got the actual files, it's just a matter of connecting to your computer via USB and dragging/dropping the files over. Just like on your old mp3 players. :D
Hi I bought the open run PRO...AMAZING...but I need to swim and answer to phone... do you know if in the meantime they carried out the open swimm Bluetooth??? Thank you!!
Good view. I used to FINIS for sweming in the pool and sea and for snorkeling a little (not modern model, previous, I think it was be more universal (for mask and even sunglasses:)). Now going to buy for jogging something similar (sorry fore mistakes, russions)))
I come from thailand . I have a question . It is damage your ear when you listen underwater for 1 hour every day. Because l feel a little bit hurt in my ear when i finished my swim . Thank you.
I am swimmer so i am really curious about them . Does the music change as you swim? how loud is the music in the water ? If u can say more about swimming in them that will be cool ❤️
I wouldn't say the music changes, but it's important to remember they don't block the sound of water rushing. Imaging the sound of water like you normally hear, but then add in also being able to hear music on top of that. Bone conducting headphones are interesting because they don't block any ambient sound, so it's basiclly like adding a soundtrack to your head. They get pretty loud! Not crazy loud, but you can definitely hear them. They're never going to be audiophile headphones or replace the headphones you use at home, but they're perfectly good for adding music to your swims or runs.
I come from thailand . I have a question . It is damage your ear when you listen underwater for 1 hour every day. Because l feel a little bit hurt in my ear when i finished my swim . Thank you.
I come from thailand . I have a question . It is damage your ear when you listen underwater for 1 hour every day. Because l feel a little bit hurt in my ear when i finished my swim . Thank you.
How is the voice quality during swimming? Rather than listen to music I prefer longer, calmer swims listening to a podcast or book. I ultimately don't always want "`work out music" all the time, just sometimes. Anyone try these on a leisurely long swim but loading an audiobook or podcast?
Great review! I've got a quick question though, how much will people standing nearby hear what I'm hearing? I guess you could say 'How much does the sound leak?'. Maybe In comparison to normal in-ear headphones? I'm planning on using them exclusively for swimming, and I think waterproof in-ears will be bad for that (plus the fact that they always like to fall out of my ears), so I thought this might be the perfect device. Swimming's always so boring :P
Hey there, thanks for the video. Just a quick question what if you also use earplugs (just to avoid water get in your ears) while swimming can you still listen to your music through the xtrainerz? Cheers!
Great video dude! I really enjoy my Trekz Airs that I won on your channel. I am curious about the Aeropex. I use the waterproof Ipod Shuffle now. I wonder if I could get the Apple music onto the Areopex? Anyways, always good to see your content.
Did some googling, it doesn't seem like it. At least not with some pretty heave 'workarounds,' and even then, don't count on it. It's a bit of a separate rant, but it is kinda ironic that it seems like the only people really impacted by the DRM rules are the ones who are paying legally, lol. I had to dig up some ooooollllddd mp3s from when I actually bought CDs. Everything is spotify for me now! And happy to be back!
Thank you - great video! Was using Sony WMS413 but product music file corrupting with no storage available so have given up. Is it easy to drag and drop from iTunes?
I always get a little nervous when talking about iTunes because if you have music with DRM licenses on it they probably won’t work. That said, as long as you have normal mp3s that don’t have copy protection, you’ll be fine. As long as they’re working on your Sony and just *stored* in iTunes you’re probably good. But yeah, it’s super easy to drag and drop. It just opens a windows explorer window and you copy them over, and then they play.
@@JustinDoesTriathlon I was afraid of this. I've bought a lot of music from itunes and while the files transferred to the xtrainerz - they won't play. I suspect some have DRM licenses. ugh!
Do you think the Aeoropex which have BlueTooth are OK for swimming? The website says the Aeropex are not for swimming but I won't buy these without BlueTooth and would only be using them for swimming laps on endurance swims (5,000 yds+) so I want to make sure they can be water resistance for that long and with all the flip turns. Thoughts? Thanks!
It's drag and drop like a portable hard drive-You connect the USB cable and plug it into your computer and it shows up and you drag MP3s to it. No go on Spotify, sadly.
@@zinnal Hope you found it useful. They're all pretty darn good headphones; I use them all constantly. If you want waterproof, the openswims are pretty sweet. If you care more about sound quality, the new OpenRuns (regular or pro) improve it.
I haven't worn them on the bike, yet; I bike in pretty populated areas and even though they're open, try to keep max awareness. If it's sunny I'll take them out this week on a less populated area and let you know.
I appreciate your video and time. My big issue with these types of devices is they come off or out when I push off. They stay in the first 200 yards and then gone. Wish you would have tried a cap anyway. Still a great video from one of my favorite channels. 👍🏽
I haven't been swimming in a long time 😔 but in my experience they stayed on! That said, I am typically swimming more endurance vs 100-400m hard repeats, so I have softer push-offs than pure swimmers or those doing hard interval sets. And thanks!
I use them with a cap and they stay in place, I need to fuss with them a bit at first if I haven't worn them in a while. Flip turns and all strokes they stay in place.
I was about to go ahead and pull the trigger on these until I saw the price! Good Lord! I’m just not that much in need of this feature in my swimming training to blow that kinda dough in headphones so I’ll just have to do without and envy the rich folks who can buy these wonderful pieces of technology. 😂
Sadly, there's no legal option that I'm aware of. I know there are some apps that let you 'download' Spotify but I don't think those are on the up-and-up, technically. Definitely a very strong frustration with the current state of DRM and how we access music. Everything on my XTrainerz is from like... 2005. Bit of an out there idea, but if you're in the US, a lot of libraries have (or at least used to?) CDs to check out... I don't know the legality of getting MP3s from that though, or if they even have MP3s anymore. But yeah, personally I pay for Spotify Premium, and no MP3s there. I think the dream state would be a device that's similar to what Garmin does with their 645 Music; basically the watch itself connects and authenticates to Spotify, and then downloads the music for offline listening to your connected bluetooth headphones. I'd love if the Xtrainerz could do something similar.
What do you think, these vs the Aeropex or Trekz Airs?
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For me, the only real decision to make is how much the mp3 only aspect is an issue and/or how much you dislike carrying your phone. These are going to be marketed heavily as a swimming headphone I'm sure, but I think for multisport athletes, the lack of phone requirement could be as big or more of a plus. I am a huge Spotify fan, and it's a gripe to have to get my music into mp3 form, but once it's done, man, game freaking on. That said, obviously a ton of people carry their phones on runs all the time, and when I have a run vest on, I do too. I'll say that between these and the Aeropex you can't really go wrong. For me, the lack of phone + swimming is just a win.
How much time does the xtrainerz resist under water, i'm asking to know how much time do i have for my training sessions at the pool. Thanks!
@@luigiquique1 Xtrainerz needs to be charged after 5-6 hours of use. When you turn it on a voice will tell you about the battery status: Battery High / Medium or Low or charge me. Swim sessions of 2 hours are no problem on battery medium. Didn't try it yet when when battery was low.
Thanks mate!
I'm also doing a lot of swimming and running and therefore I'm really interested in these headphones! Glad to watch a review by somebody with the same issues :D
I tried the first generation of the sony walkman waterproof headphones a couple of years ago and i felt devastatingly deceived for my money and like I could never trust a business that sells swimming headphones again. So could you please tell how you like their water performance only? Can you listen to the music better than to water rushing? Do you think you can listen to podcasts or audiobooks while swimming(asking for a friend)? Can you manage not-overly-careful flip turns without losing them? Do you think it's worth buying them particularly for killing time during lane swimming? Did you perhaps try sony walkmans before? Thank you so much in advance :)
@@lukashoffmann8499 Haha, I relate! No prob. YEah, so down the line: You can definitely hear a lot of water, yes, but you can also hear music. I would think of it like this: Think of all the water you typically hear, but then add in music. It would be wrong to say that it 'blocks' the sound of water, it really just 'adds in' music. I think you could listen to audiobooks, but you might miss some details. I don't think you'd have any problem with flip turns unless you're really going wild. I don't wear a cap with them and haven't had any issues, but if you've got a cap over your ears (And therefore over the top of the hook,) I expect you would be extra fine. They never felt loose. I prooooobably wouldn't use them open-water just because that would be tragic to lose them, but I suspect they'd be fine (could also attach a little float to them just in case). I think they're *great* for killing time in lane swimming. A lot of my swims are just long, slow distance, and boredom is a pressing concern; these are great for that. Never used the Walmans, sorry.
Personally I don't like these at all for one major reason you didn't mention in this video. In order to make them waterproof they completely removed the charging port and now use some proprietary charging cradle. Nope. I need to be able to charge on the go for long trips or long shifts without having to carry around another thing. Another thing that I can break or get lost as well.
First person I’ve seen that tried to replicate the sound you hear with bone conduction headphones, so thanks for that!
I got ya!
We just need to find Shane A now
Thank you for giving your effort showing you hear the sound.
Can you please provide me some advice? How will I download music to my new headset and also I enjoy books on tape as well. Am I able to download TH-cam as well to listen to? I have not a clue on how to do this. Thank you for your help, whoever is reading my request and can assist.
you recreating the approximations of the different sound quality... makes this a perfect review video
Cheers!
I'm a 5 day a week swimmer who has yet to find a good pair of headphones. I was encouraged by this review and purchased them. The OpenSwim headphones are not for me. One huge benefit of bone conducting headphones is that the ear canal is unobstructed, so ambient sounds can be heard along with whatever is on the headphones. The OpenSwim headphones are great until water fills your ear canal, which is will do swimming even 50 yards. At that point the sound becomes all bass and bass drum, with mid-range and higher sounds completely lost: guitar, synth, instrumentation, voice--all lost. There is a reason the OpenSwims come with a set of earplugs included. In short, if you swim with earplugs, this product might work for you. If you don't and don't want to add earplugs to your swim, then this is definitely not for you.
I bought these headphones based on your review and I love them for swimming. The difference between normal mode and swimming mode is that in normal mode when you pause and play again, the song starts from the beginning. Contrary on swimming mode, when you play again it starts from where you left it.
Heyy! Really considering buying these but most underwater headphones I’ve seen usually stop working after a few weeks or a few months. If u could do an update on how they are working it would be great lol
@@dominicwest2773 So far they are still working perfectly with 2 to 3 hours of use per week.
Are they still working after 3yrs? Grateful to know if they stopped working at some point. Thanks
Mine still work great!
Is it still holding on? Been thinking of buying it but I'm afraid it won't last for a month
Trying to find headphones for swimming is stupidly hard to do. So far, after months of research, these do seem like the most reliable.
Agree all around
I come from thailand . I have a question . It is damage your ear when you listen underwater for 1 hour every day. Because l feel a little bit hurt in my ear when i finished my swim . Thank you.
@@พัฒนาภาษอังกฤษผ่านการดูหนัง2ซัcheck with doctor.
I just bought these after watching your review, and the sound quality demo you showed pretty much sums it up. The Aeropex / Open Air sounds a little muted, like background music, but the Xtrainerz sound like regular headphones (even without the earplugs) - they are plenty loud, good bass response and great mids. The packaging doesn't say it but it also supports the M4A format.
Good to hear! 👍👍
How easy is it to download music? Do audiobooks or podcast work and do voices sound good? Thanks.
Thanks for the effort you went to in replicating around sound quality. Great video
I just got mine today and I am thrilled to bits with them. They are fantastic.
Whoo!
Thanks for the review. I love the Shokz with the extending mike arm. Being constantly on the move for work, they simply saved my life and you don't get the glare when wearing Apple Airpods.
I was really interested in the "fit" aspect of your review and it was informative & helpful. Also, good note that they've been tested in salt water. Thanks for your review.
For sure! Yeah, very very comfortable and I like them a lot. The only negative for me is hats/beanies/ etc. Perhaps if you have long hair, could be a factor? Obviously I don't experience that. 😅 But yeah, no complaints on fit at all, especially compared to alternatives. I like the behind the head style
Great review, thanks! Now to choose between this and the Sony Nw-Ws623...
Fantastic review - simple and to the point but thorough.
thanks dude for the informative video. Just bought one yesterday after seeing your review!
I bought the Xtrainers. They are great! I am a Itunes user. You can only put on music that you own. I just drag my non protected music onto the headphones. They work really well underwater and they stay in place during flip turns. I do use the straps from my goggles to make them fit even more snug.
you can also remove the DRM from your iTunes songs, but its a pain in the ass to do
I come from thailand . I have a question . It is damage your ear when you listen underwater for 1 hour every day. Because l feel a little bit hurt in my ear when i finished my swim . Thank you.
@@rwatson how do you remove the DRM
@@พัฒนาภาษอังกฤษผ่านการดูหนัง2ซั I’ve never experienced any pain or discomfort using the headphones. I swim 60-90 minutes 3 days a week.
@@ezrajordan9020 thank you Do you ear plug? When you swim?
Thanks buddy, great review and really helpful! Keep it up :-)
Super review! Thanks v much. My xtrainerz arriving next wk.
As a reminder the aeropex are not ip68 certified so you cant swim with them.
Bluetooth tech is just not to the point where it can go through the water very well. So if you want to swim these are the best way to go.
Really great review. I loved the 'imitation' of what the music will sound like. Kinda an audio freak so they might not work for me, plus, no Bluetooth..
Ha, happy to help! Yeah I've got good headphones on my desk so I always have this idea of "when I'm working out, I just want a beat," basically. I don't think any of the bone conduction headphones are ever going to be properly 'good' audio, but these are definitely a forward step over the old Trekz Air. Those are pretty muddy. The new ones still lack any sort of bass (even as someone who doesn't like bass heavy headphones,) but at least they're cleaner.
JustinDoesTriathlon, we humans are quite inventive so my hopes lay in the future! Cheers mate.
Love the aeropex, interested in trying these
That was a great review! Thank you.
You did share anything about setting them up with your phone..... or how to add music
Great review. Exactly what I needed
This is a awesome review.! Thanks, hey did you mention that there are some other headphones similar to this one but it's a bluetooth? what is the name of it?
I am looking forward to it!Thanks for your video !😉😁🎉
Hey Justin, thanks for your video. Do you have any idea how to get my Spotify playlist on the earphones? Thanks a lot, steffy
Brilliant review buddy. Cheers.
Could I go in sauna / steam room with these and do they still work whilst u swim ?
Thanks for the review!
For swimming, which mp3 listening device would you say is your top 3?
Is there a convertor cable so you can transfer music from your phone to the earphones? I don't have a computer but really want the waterproof ones.
Am I glad I discovered the Xtrainerz. I had the Finis Neptunes before for swimming sessions but the Xtrainerz are much much better. Better sound and better comfort! I even prefere them for during my running trips as I can hear everything around me while listening to music. If you're not a swimmer than maybe you should considder a bluetooth model. Xtrainerz are stand alone model.
Agree all around. Yeah, without swimming I'd go for the Aeropex (which is the updated bluetooth one). I still use my Trekz Titaniums a lot because of the BT, but the Xtrainerz are my preferred in general.
Thanks for your great review! I am keen to try these for swimming, however I'm concerned it will be really fiddly to get my podcasts and music to mp3. What are the other good options?
Options for getting music to mp3? I did some googling when I had these (I use Spotify mostly) and the options seemed iffy and unreliable, so I personally just gave up and used my old mp3s from like... 2006 or something, haha. Other options for headphones? While I normally hesitate to reccomend something I haven't personally used, the Aeropex seems like a great option. It's the updated aftershokz drivers that the XTrainerz have in a package that's bluetooth instead. They're probably really solid. On the 'headphones I've personally used,' man I just love the Trekz Airs so much. They've been my go to for the last 18mos. Personally, in-ear buds just don't work well for me. They *never* stay in, I hate the feeling of sweat in my ears, and they eventually unseal and then I can only hear one of them. I know a lot of people have good luck with Jaybirds, Powerbeats, and SoundSports, but they're not for me, so I don't know them well.
If you buy CD then just convert them on your PC since you're already using it to transfer
Would you believe I literally don't own a cd drive anywhere anymore? Even my desktop. I'd have to go to the library or something, I think. Frustrating!
JustinDoesTriathlon same here - I had to buy a cheap external cd drive for my laptop - only £20
Buy the music on beat port, iTunes etc.
I've had the Aeropex for just under a year now and I really like them. Now that it's winter in the US I do find it hard to wear them with an ear warmer headband when running though. I'm starting to get back into swim training after about a decade and I'm worried if I need these to stay entertained while training that I'll have a hard time during my first sprint tri (I am a runner and I wear headphones for races from 5k to half marathon). Also not sure they'll pair well with swim caps as I have long hair. I may overlook these things if I then didn't have to buy MP3 tracks when I'm already paying for Spotify premium and Stitcher Premium.
Is the xtrainerz by aftershockz the same earphone as open swim by shockz
I need to upgrade to those since I've had the Titanium ones for years.
Hi Justin, I have Sony Walkman waterproof headphones for swimming, however sound is so low is difficult to hear the music. I find I have to concentrate hard to hear the music at their lowest volume. Can you hear the music sufficiently. I did hear your replication of sound, just want to check before I dive in & buy them. Thank you
Great review Justin. The more reviews I watch the more conflicted I become between bluetooth vs non-BT. I'm just wondering if a swimming cap will cause issues behind the ears when pulling the sides over your ears.....
I would say... marginally. I tried them with a cap just for testing and yeah, you definitely notice it more, but I wouldn't say it's wildly uncomfortable (much moreso than just wearing a cap is to me I suppose.) I do have an advantage by being bald here though!
One thing i noticed about the trekz titanium is when you take them off with music playing in them you can slightly hear the music coming out of the headphones so it might not be suitable for airplane usage as you might disturb the person sitting next to you. But thats just for the trekz titanium i dont know about the newer models.
That's true! I've never noticed it on a plane before (they're pretty darn quiet compared to the cabin) but good to keep in mind.
Amazing explanation thank you!
How hard is it to move music from spotify to mp3? I don't use I Tunes but just getting to know Apple Music.
Hi Justin,
Thanks for this video. Definitely very informative! Here's my dilemma. I am an avid triathlete myself, and enjoy the swimming aspect of the race. That said, I need to wear earplugs as I can't stand the feeling of water in my ears. So far so good, as far as these Xtrainerz go. However, the interface with MP3 is a HUGE turnoff for me. I know Bluetooth is still a ways out, but I did some research and it seems like the Delphin has an answer to that. That device does have Bluetooth capability, BUT they require plug in ear buds...which would then prevent me from putting the ear plugs in that I need. So...are there underwater bone conduction headphones like the Xtrainerz that can be plugged in?
Thanks a bunch!
To add to this, I use the silicon plugs that I can mold to my ear for a watertight fit. (Would be pretty cool to integrate that with earbud headphones!)
@@zbwdpt Man, I feel for you, because your needs with earplugs remind me of my own needs with normal headphones (which is to say that, no matter how many tips and fit options they claim to have, I just *cannot* get normal sport earbuds to stay in while I run) I also 100% relate to not loving the mp3 only aspect; all the music on my XTrainerz is from like... 2010 ha. Unfortunately, I can't think of any option yet. Bluetooth can physically only penetrate something like a few inches underwater. My hope is that down the road, Afteshokz will do something like Garmin did on their new watches: let you connect to Spotify and 'download' the music. That would be AMAZING and basically my end-game headphones. As is, I am not aware of any bone conducting, wired, waterproof headphones.
I really thought about this and was even trying to think of like... waterproof adapters or whatever, but the real rub is that if you *can't* use earbuds and need fully waterproof, wired bone conduction, I'm not aware of any. Everything I know of is just mp3. Bit off the wall, but you could TRY getting one of the wired aftershokz and look up waterproofing sprays and such, but... Honestly, seems risky. Sorry man. :(
Appreciate the quick response! I’m glad you understand my wishlist. I love my Garmin watch! Totally worth every penny for what I use it for. And the Jaybirds I use for running are perfect for me. Swimming is just that last “if only” I’ve been trying to modify. I may still give the Xtrainerz a shot. Could be fun dusting off the old iTunes account and seeing what I can pull up. Are blue ones an option for purchase?
@@zbwdpt Man, a bluetooth AND mp3 enabled, waterproof, bone conducting pair would be basically the last headphones I ever buy. I'm not sure on iTunes actually... I never really used it. I *think* the iTunes Plus ones that were like $1.29/song had more options, but Im not sure.
According to this, it seems like anything iTunes Plus should be DRM free, but you have to convert them or something.
discussions.apple.com/thread/7459594
I use Trekz Titanium where I can link via Bluetooth but I think I'll be okay with going old school. I do have a question. When you upload your mp3s to the device, are you able to arrange the order of playback or does it just play ordered by the file name?
Hi Justin thanks for the review! Love that u even tried to help us get a feel for how it sounds.
I'm wondering if the volume is loud enough to listen to sermons /audio books etc. I've tried other underwater mp3 players where music is OK but it's not loud enough for speech.
Appreciate if u can comment if u have tested this... Or if not... Hope u can!
Hey there! I haven't tested it for spoken word, and I can't anymore either (my pool is closed... ) I would lean to saying yes, but I can't say for sure. The thing is, you still get the sound OF water, you just get music/audio over that. It's not like they're actually blocking the water itself. For music, that's fine, but I can't say for sure on the spoken word.
@@JustinDoesTriathlon really appreciate the prompt reply!! Yes that's the experience I had with the other one too. Water sounds.... Kinda loud. Wonder if Earplugs would help though!
Would u say this has a 'louder max volume' as compared to the Finis swimp3 range? (I had it a few years ago now...) No prob if u can't comment on this.
Sorry, haven't used the Finis. Those thing never stay in my ears. :(
great review! thanks
The bummer of these for me is that they donm't have bluetooth to use outside of the water - it seems like a no brainer but hey
Very informative! Thanks for all the info! I have the audio flood and really like it, but the ear buds are starting to die after 1.5 yrs of using
No problem, happy to. I've seen those and heard generally good things about them, but I just knew I would never get those dang buds to stay in my ear. Especially if you've already got a good chunk of music in mp3, something like this probably would be an easy swap. Then you could use the earplugs if you wanted to get the most similar sound! I was super excited to see the 2yr warranty on this. It seems like, with the products I've 'worn out' in the past, that 12-24 mos is really where it all seems to hit. Would be nice to at least make it 2.5 years or whatever, ha.
So the Sony's allow fast forwarding? The Shokz don't, but I would use it to listen to podcasts while swimming, and sometimes I like to skip the commericials, etc.
Hi Justin,
Great review. What are your thoughts on the sonar audio H2O headphones? How do they compare to the xtrainers sound quality wise for swimming?
Haven't tried them, sorry 😔
I don't know from blue tooth, mp3, whatever. Will the Xtrainerz load music from I-tunes on my computer? I formerly had a FiniSwiMP3 and had great success with it. After the fact, I read not-so-good reviews about the Fini. However, it is 10 years old and I need to replace it as I enjoy swimming with music. Trying to decide whether to replace my Fini or go with the Xtrainerz. The Fini was easy to load music onto via I-tunes from my computer. Will the Xtrainerz be easy as well?
thank you for the review , The headphones are also suitable for a long running (marathon) or they are specific to swimming ?
Yep! Just as long as you can download content to them. They work perfectly fine out of water too
Have you tried the H2O Audio tri-sport bone conduction model?
Hi, thanks for that ! I bought them as well and really like them. One thing bugs me though: not being able to jump between folders. If I wanna reach a folder, an album or an audiobook, I need to presse like 30 times, song by song, which is even more tiring than the swin itself😉 Do I miss something? is there an hidden fontion to jusp betweens folders that I don't know of?! thanks very much !
Press and hold volume+ and multifunction button for 2 seconds when you are under "play current folder." Audrey says "next folder."
Do you have a video on how to load the music? I love this product but need help with th music download. Thank you!
Justin: nice video, question does the swim cap apply soreness to your head with the head phones while swimming?
Possibly... I don't wear a swim cap typically, but I've work aftershokz under tight beanies for 4-12 hours routinely before, and I could feel some pressure, but not what I'd personally call discomfort. I find it more comfortable than having earbuds pressed into my ears.
@@JustinDoesTriathlon
great thanks, Tony
Hello, thanks for the comments. I have a critical question. I tried the headphones in the store but the back is a bit loose, will this cause a problem while swimming? While other shokz models have a mini size, the swim model does not. Should the back be loose while swimming?
Hi Justin - great channel. I'm looking for a new pair of wireless headphones with built-in music capability. I had the Sony Walkman BCR-NWWS410 model that I purchased in March 2018 and they literally died this morning. I'm getting into the triathlon world so something like the Samsung Galaxy ear buds (also have built-in MP3 capability) won't work as they aren't waterproof. Have you look at the Sony line at all? Just curious. I'm hesitant to purchase another pair if they are going to die after 2 years. Thanks!
Great question! I haven't. Unfortunately I have really picky ears, and earbud style phones like those never stay sealed in my ear. They always wiggle out and I spend the whole workout trying to shove them back in. Haven't used those in particular, but I've experienced that trouble for like 15 years, haha. Sorry I can't help. :( XTrainerz do have a 2 year warranty though, which is nice!
Thank you for the review! Can i ask, do they still function well almost 2 years later? I've seen many reviews of them dying after 9-10 uses with no way to fix it and complains that the company is unresponsive when filing warranty complaints so I'm hesitant to use them. Thank you!
That's a bummer, I haven't heard about that! They definitely do, I use them all the time. I actually use them more than my other Aftershokz (ones with bluetooth) because I don't like carrying my phone when I run, and these are 'self contained.' I mean, just my experience, but yeah, they work just like new.
@@JustinDoesTriathlon That's good to hear, thank you for your response!
Mine just died after 8 swimming sessions, I filed a warranty claim and Aftershokz supposedly is going to ship a new one to me in the next couple weeks...
Yikes! 😳 Mine are still chugging along.
@@michaelw.8968 Oh no i hope they pull through! I did end up getting them and they’ve worked really well for me so far (multiple swims a week for 3 months)!
I gave up on these headphones. After 3 months trying to find ways to transfer audiobooks and music from Spotify, I threw them into a drawer and forget about them. Horribly frustrating to use.
I bought a Lenovo X5 ( I am satisfied as I had that expectation of that sound quality difference from regular phones) but I wonder if I switched to Shokz OpenSwim I'd have quality gains ( louder volume ) playing the same MP3 files. By the way I only use for swimming trainning sessions and ear hole plugged with silicon ( as recommended for sound quality ).
2Christian Rosa: Salute! I have a question. Is it possible to hear some podcasts with these headphones? I have tried Sony but they are not loud enough to manage all noises in water... If I swim more or less fast, it is not possible to understand what the persons say in the podcast (I want to use them to learn languages)
Hi, great review. Someone wrote about listening to spoken word. I want to be able to listen to podcasts while swimming laps. If I download podcasts would it be easy enough to transfer these to the MP3 player (I haven't dealt with this in years)?
You got it! As long as you've got the actual files, it's just a matter of connecting to your computer via USB and dragging/dropping the files over. Just like on your old mp3 players. :D
Very informative thanks
Hi I bought the open run PRO...AMAZING...but I need to swim and answer to phone... do you know if in the meantime they carried out the open swimm Bluetooth??? Thank you!!
Good view. I used to FINIS for sweming in the pool and sea and for snorkeling a little (not modern model, previous, I think it was be more universal (for mask and even sunglasses:)). Now going to buy for jogging something similar (sorry fore mistakes, russions)))
I come from thailand . I have a question . It is damage your ear when you listen underwater for 1 hour every day. Because l feel a little bit hurt in my ear when i finished my swim . Thank you.
can you download your spotify playlist on these
I am swimmer so i am really curious about them . Does the music change as you swim? how loud is the music in the water ? If u can say more about swimming in them that will be cool ❤️
I wouldn't say the music changes, but it's important to remember they don't block the sound of water rushing. Imaging the sound of water like you normally hear, but then add in also being able to hear music on top of that. Bone conducting headphones are interesting because they don't block any ambient sound, so it's basiclly like adding a soundtrack to your head. They get pretty loud! Not crazy loud, but you can definitely hear them. They're never going to be audiophile headphones or replace the headphones you use at home, but they're perfectly good for adding music to your swims or runs.
I come from thailand . I have a question . It is damage your ear when you listen underwater for 1 hour every day. Because l feel a little bit hurt in my ear when i finished my swim . Thank you.
Great headphone for Swiming and Biking.
I come from thailand . I have a question . It is damage your ear when you listen underwater for 1 hour every day. Because l feel a little bit hurt in my ear when i finished my swim . Thank you.
How is the voice quality during swimming? Rather than listen to music I prefer longer, calmer swims listening to a podcast or book. I ultimately don't always want "`work out music" all the time, just sometimes. Anyone try these on a leisurely long swim but loading an audiobook or podcast?
I'm going to use them in the shower
Okay. So you can use them in the shower. How was it??
@@Warrior2044 the fuck do you think it was like.
He had elevator music in his head while he washed himself.
@@apexvoice1952 Chill out
One word.
Bitchmade
Great review!
I've got a quick question though, how much will people standing nearby hear what I'm hearing? I guess you could say 'How much does the sound leak?'. Maybe In comparison to normal in-ear headphones? I'm planning on using them exclusively for swimming, and I think waterproof in-ears will be bad for that (plus the fact that they always like to fall out of my ears), so I thought this might be the perfect device. Swimming's always so boring :P
They leak like normal headphones, maybe a bit less. No need to worry. During swimming, probably nobody will hear anything.
Hey there, thanks for the video. Just a quick question what if you also use earplugs (just to avoid water get in your ears) while swimming can you still listen to your music through the xtrainerz? Cheers!
You can! I also do this using foam earplugs on the plane. Works great.
@@JustinDoesTriathlon Thanks for the reply Justin. Would you use them also for running?
@@chrisinoskadis I love them for running because it means I don't have to take my phone!
Great video dude! I really enjoy my Trekz Airs that I won on your channel. I am curious about the Aeropex. I use the waterproof Ipod Shuffle now. I wonder if I could get the Apple music onto the Areopex? Anyways, always good to see your content.
Did some googling, it doesn't seem like it. At least not with some pretty heave 'workarounds,' and even then, don't count on it. It's a bit of a separate rant, but it is kinda ironic that it seems like the only people really impacted by the DRM rules are the ones who are paying legally, lol. I had to dig up some ooooollllddd mp3s from when I actually bought CDs. Everything is spotify for me now! And happy to be back!
JustinDoesTriathlon if you have Spotify premium how do you download and then load to these head phones? Curious
Bluetooth currently doesn't work under water. You need storage built-in storage for water.
Thank you - great video!
Was using Sony WMS413 but product music file corrupting with no storage available so have given up. Is it easy to drag and drop from iTunes?
I always get a little nervous when talking about iTunes because if you have music with DRM licenses on it they probably won’t work. That said, as long as you have normal mp3s that don’t have copy protection, you’ll be fine. As long as they’re working on your Sony and just *stored* in iTunes you’re probably good. But yeah, it’s super easy to drag and drop. It just opens a windows explorer window and you copy them over, and then they play.
@@JustinDoesTriathlon I was afraid of this. I've bought a lot of music from itunes and while the files transferred to the xtrainerz - they won't play. I suspect some have DRM licenses. ugh!
Is there an option for shuffle while listening?
How long did this earphones work?
Did they break/die already (because of the water)
Well done!
Do you think the Aeoropex which have BlueTooth are OK for swimming? The website says the Aeropex are not for swimming but I won't buy these without BlueTooth and would only be using them for swimming laps on endurance swims (5,000 yds+) so I want to make sure they can be water resistance for that long and with all the flip turns. Thoughts? Thanks!
No, I really wouldn't trust it personally. Also, bluetooth doesn't work underwater, so even if they were fully sealed, it wouldn't get a signal.
what kind of software do you need for putting on music on the xtrainerz, and is it possible to transfer spotify tracks on to the xtrainez
It's drag and drop like a portable hard drive-You connect the USB cable and plug it into your computer and it shows up and you drag MP3s to it. No go on Spotify, sadly.
would I need a cap to hold them or are they good without a cap?
My 4 month old Shokz no longer work ??
Hi, can you drag podcasts onto it?
As long as you have the mp3 file yes.
Do they still run at the same volume as in-ear buds? Meaning, will other people be able to hear my music?
How do audiobooks and podcast sound?
I bought them and can’t download music (that I know or like!) Can someone help me please ?
6:36 you can just download an audio file that beeps every 30 seconds, lol
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i'm still struggling trying to find a wireless swimming headphones. Bummer that Bluetooth doesn't like water :)
Can you download music from Itunes?
You didn’t explain how the buttons actually work
Why would there be an add in the middle of the sound comparisons?!
Your time isn't free, and mine isn't either. ✌
@@JustinDoesTriathlon just put it before or after the sound comparison.
@@zinnal It's automatic by TH-cam unfortunately. I'll see if I can manually move it around though. :)
@@JustinDoesTriathlon ok fair enough, I liked the video since that’s the case.
@@zinnal Hope you found it useful. They're all pretty darn good headphones; I use them all constantly. If you want waterproof, the openswims are pretty sweet. If you care more about sound quality, the new OpenRuns (regular or pro) improve it.
How have you found them when on the bike doing 30km/h+ ?
I haven't worn them on the bike, yet; I bike in pretty populated areas and even though they're open, try to keep max awareness. If it's sunny I'll take them out this week on a less populated area and let you know.
i hear the music better better underwater than running or riding my bike
Can the Xtrainerz use Spotify? I really want to keep my music without have to make a new way to download and listen
No
Song ?
How to download music?
Is the sound volume higher and better in Aftershokz Xtrainers than in finis dou/swimp3 ?,
thx for good review by the way
Never used the Finis, sorry :(
I appreciate your video and time. My big issue with these types of devices is they come off or out when I push off. They stay in the first 200 yards and then gone.
Wish you would have tried a cap anyway.
Still a great video from one of my favorite channels. 👍🏽
I haven't been swimming in a long time 😔 but in my experience they stayed on! That said, I am typically swimming more endurance vs 100-400m hard repeats, so I have softer push-offs than pure swimmers or those doing hard interval sets. And thanks!
I use them with a cap and they stay in place, I need to fuss with them a bit at first if I haven't worn them in a while. Flip turns and all strokes they stay in place.
I was about to go ahead and pull the trigger on these until I saw the price! Good Lord! I’m just not that much in need of this feature in my swimming training to blow that kinda dough in headphones so I’ll just have to do without and envy the rich folks who can buy these wonderful pieces of technology. 😂
I dont have any mp3s... what do you do? I use spotify and audible. any advice?
Sadly, there's no legal option that I'm aware of. I know there are some apps that let you 'download' Spotify but I don't think those are on the up-and-up, technically. Definitely a very strong frustration with the current state of DRM and how we access music. Everything on my XTrainerz is from like... 2005. Bit of an out there idea, but if you're in the US, a lot of libraries have (or at least used to?) CDs to check out... I don't know the legality of getting MP3s from that though, or if they even have MP3s anymore. But yeah, personally I pay for Spotify Premium, and no MP3s there. I think the dream state would be a device that's similar to what Garmin does with their 645 Music; basically the watch itself connects and authenticates to Spotify, and then downloads the music for offline listening to your connected bluetooth headphones. I'd love if the Xtrainerz could do something similar.
@@JustinDoesTriathlon Allavsoft for spotify, Epubor for audible
MY aftershoks xtrainers have started talking to me in Chinese or Japanese. or something. How can i change this?
Press and hold the volume up and down buttons at the same time for two seconds to cycle languages 👍