"umm captain I just read our basic security procedures and they say, do not let any weird random shuttles into your ship when you have a high value prisoner" "shut up number 2, you're fired."
Lightsabers went from being deadly weapons to meaningless props. Every damn series a girl boss gets stabbed through the stomach with one then just appears in the next episode like she fell over and grazed her knee.
Dave Baloney fvcked up lightsabers in the Rebels cartoon - made them way to thin and less intimidating, and also made the Inquisitors use them to fly around like helicopters for Christ sakes.
@@disenfranchisedver1tech598 He already f***ed with lightsabers when he brought back Maul, who somehow survived being cut in half and falling from who knows how long of a distance/height.
It's truly abhorrent what Disney has made of star wars. Unfortunately like most franchises they are slowly getting the new generations molded to these laughable stories as they will not know better and think that is what good story and Character development is.
Bro exactly!!! Younger audiences have no choice but to exist in a cinematic vacuum. They actually think this is good storytelling because they have nothing to compare it to.
Na. The younger generation has zero interest in this garbage wars. Star wars is over. Let disney burn down financially. And we don't need no water let the mfer burn! Burn mfer burn!
@SprocketList Coppola, who ended up bringing you Godfather 3 starring his own daughter? Scorsese who made the same movie with the same actors over and over again - Casino-Bull-Fellas. And George. Dear George Lucas who made such an utter shambles of the prequels that he wrecked the entire franchise and got away with it due to short attention spans and then sold the company and IP for a billion dollars.
Ah yes, as a woman I feel so represented by smug looking alien boss women. Just like Rey spoke deeply to me with her not needing to train to become powerful. Clearly modern day Star Wars has figured us out.
@@wolpertingera5829 You will get what your given and like it, then again maybe if you fold your arms at them & flex hard enough you will get your strong boys back.
I don't think I have it in me to even watch a dunk on a Star Wars series. I'm so done with it all, it's not even sad anymore. Just, I feel nothing. Nevertheless, good video as always
@@RobotHead He is saying that your manbaby rants are boring and repetitive. We get it, you make money from hating a tv show meant for 12-year-olds. Do the words sell out, hate merchant, and hack mean anything to you?
@@RobotHeadSo When Anakin was Cut in half and lit on fire but lived was fine though right? Or when maul was cut in half and fell down a bottomless pit and lived was fine though right? Or When Star killer was stabbed through the chest was fine right? Plus qui-gon did not die instantly he was laying there for several minutes before obi-wan got to him unlike sabine who was instantly rushed to the hospital.
@@ryancampbell5352first off Anakin lost his limbs and there are people who have survived burns all over their body in real life. And second using extended material from a cartoon or video game to defend a crappy show doesn't help your argument. It was just as dumb there as it is here so what makes this better?
The thing about the lightsabre deaths also, besides being worse than a blaster shot which kills people easily, is that the sith who stab a jedi with a lightsabre just leave them behind with the assurance that no one can survive it. If it was established lore that people can survive lightsabre impalings then you would think the sith would finish them off after the stabbing. So it's clear that this is a new thing Disney introduced and a sign of bad writing and lack of awareness of the lore.
Sabine was also lucky that the evil jedi lady took out the saber the same way she stab her, she could have just move to the right or the left and slice her in two
@@TheScarletSlayer Why even go that far. How about we get rid of all forms of violence and have a dance off? That way, no one dies and everyone can walk away afterward feeling like they gave it their best!
@@meal_team_six Why stop there!! Let's have both contestants win because the villain was actually a hero this whole time and something something do the right thing in a bad way.
True, the only reason a Sith would be content with just a stab it'd be because it's 100% deadly (and it was in Lucas SW).If not SW would become The Texas Chainsaw Massacre in space
Can you die from that? In George's Star Wars a lightsaber was a very deadly weapon. In Disney Star Wars getting run through with a lightsaber is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
"How did Sabine not die from being stabbed with a weapon that literally melts your insides?" "Hey, shut up. So, she gets stabbed, and then she heals up later. Meanwhile..."
its funny how an ancient map, locked in an ancient temple, hidden in a remote planet in the middle of nowhere can tell you how to find a guy who went missing a few years ago. it presumes that the heroes know that their target is in planet (insert name) but dont know where the planet is. how do they know he's on that particular planet? don't ask questions, just consume product!
Or an Aorta or spinal chord. Her injury was midline; when she woke up, her wound changed locations. She didn’t get to stay in one of those Hospital aquariums either.
I mean, in the newest episode, they made clear that she was actually one of the weakest force user that had been in allowed to train as a jedi. And then proceeded to do terribly in Jedi training, at least purely beyond the basics. Which- tell me if I'm wrong here, but isn't that something that bucks that trend of Star Wars female characters being that soooo strong and independent quality?
@@josephhernandez5386 It was the robot that said this repeatedly. It has a male’s voice programmed in; so, it was mansplaining trying to oppress the woman. I have a feeling she’s going to predictably shock everyone by doing some Force maneuvers. Perhaps a ripoff of Neo’s doubt in The Matrix.
“Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.” That line meant everything what is was to be a Jedi. Now it’s absolutely worthless because Disney destroyed the essence of the franchise.
I bloody hate that mural. There's no logical sense for it to be in same art style as animated show. It's stuff of comedy live action adaptations! Really, look at Flintstones movie, when we see Bedrock newspaper and Fred looks like his cartoon self instead of John Goodman.
I'm just so sick of promising stories and characters being dragged down by neurotic writing habits. Every good moment or idea is followed by a dumb one that tarnishes the impact of anything good
Putting the mechanics of a lightsaber aside, having characters constantly survive potentially mortal wounds removes any tension or stakes. It’s like if most of the characters who died in Game of Thrones instead recovered by the next episode. Pretty quickly you don’t care about the next conflict because the consequences are minimal to none
LOL that _did_ happen in GOT. Did you forget about how the Dothraki just resurrected? They suicide charged the Night Walkers - and then next thing you know, they’re invading the capital.
@disguisedcentennial835 well, that's the final season, where nothing made sense anymore lol. Like wtf would you send light cavalry to charge the enemy head on, in the dark when you are the defender in a siege? Especially an undead enemy lol
At this point, we owe it to ourselves to refer to Disney Star Wars as something else. They don't deserve the label Star Wars. Utterly pathetic. Shame Gisney, Shame!!!
@@racool911 - The original has been showing it's age for awhile. Empire and Return are still great. Probably because Lucas handed them over to other directors.
@racool911 How old are you? The OG trilogy are in a different ballpark. Disney's attempts at SW aren't even worthy of the name to me. But again, if you think they're even comparable, that says more about you.
I actually felt the characters of Hera and Sabine took a step down from Rebels to Ashoka. Everything Hera does in the cartoons feels intense. Whereas in live action she feels slow. And Sabine... in the cartoons she's vibrant, creative, thoughtful.
Clone Wars was a much better animated show than Rebels, but I think that was because Lucas was still heavily involved. The only time i liked anything from rebels was Ashoka vs Vader and that was only because of their shared past in Clone Wars.
I think it's awesome that Carrie Fisher went on to become a script doctor, along with her illustrious acting career after her experiences with Star Wars.
If so the director should point it out and direct them not to do it. No director worth his salt would fail to know what gestures, body language, and posture communicates (no actress should either).
@@TheRahyah even if it's a thing for Ahsoka, a good director would know what the gesture communicates and realise that it's wrong for a jedi. The jedi just aren't arrogant. They are supposed to be as close to perfect beings as is possible, paragons of virtue, excellence, and wisdom. Posturing like a boss is a thing for only the insecure and immature, for those who seek validation from others.
The 'crossing-arms' sequence is hilarious. Apparently that's what Filoni/Dawson think 'stoic' means. Lmao. 'Yeah, yeah, you need to be like a strong warrior, the silent type, so, like... just stand there, crossing your arms and looking superior, and do everything slowly'.
@@inquisitionexpecter4263 Kinda. Except Aragorn was very proactive and showed his soft side with Arwen. If they make Ashoka hook up with someone (unlikely), I have no doubt it will be a woman, and it will be strictly fun, no long-term committement.
@@LordStarbeard Makes sense that Filoni would ask the actress that, then. What about the smugness and the ever-present slowliness (except when she teleports when training Sabine)? Is that her thing from CW, too?
Both Rosario and Mary Elizabeth act like they are balancing books on their heads while they deliver their lines…which, given the elaborate head pieces that make up their costumes, may be the case.
Thanks you for pointing out the constant arm crossing. I’ve only watched the first two episodes and have no intention of giving it more attention than that. Looking forward to more of your excellent roasting though. Thanks once more for taking one for the team.
@@tufab3494Your incessant need to respond to every comment you can about how ridiculous their critiques are is just as ridiculous as the people you're getting upset at. Stay mad
Oh, Robot Head. I knew you would notice all the crossed arms, too. Thank you so much for the Arms Crossed Super Cut. I wanted to see that so badly after the first episode.
What irritates me nore than most of the garbage Disney has done with Star Wars are those reactions of those "infuencers" or fans or whomever those buffoons are at the end of the video. Their reactions are so phony and overdone, that or they're truly lacking any mental awareness. I'd believe either.
Here's how it happened. After the death of Qui-gon Jin Everyone was so sad that the Republic senate immediately passed legislation, requiring the intensity of the plasma heat of lightsabers to be dialed down. They didn't want anyone dying from any more gut shots after that. So now it's a mere maiming weapon. Like paintball.
All energy weapons have to be neutered to not cause permanent damage otherwise it would be classified as an "Deadly Assault Laser Sword" which would put owners on the Space ATF shit-list.
I get the feeling they're gonna "pull a Snoke" and just kill Thrawn quickly after meeting him. Can't have a male character possibly be intimidating or threatening to these girl bosses. I wouldn't be shocked if Reva makes an appearance. Another feather in KK's cap.
It's been a longtime since I saw Clone Wars or Rebels, but I remember Ahsoka, Hera and Sabine being a lot more lively and likable than their live action portrayals. 🤔
100% Anakin called Ashoka snips because she was always joking and you know snippy but in this she's just 😶😶😑 and its just boring I get it she's a super serious jedi master but common
Indeed. Why Ashoka suddenly has the personality of a plank of wood is strange. I get they want her to seem all at peace and one with the universe but in reality she just comes across dull and lifeless.
Robot head did go too far with his cartoon rant. Cartoons can emote and do more than he thinks, the problem is they dont know how to do it in live action. That and robot head wont ever see clone wars himself xp.
You know? This demostrate how the writers really are ignorant of human feelings. Ahsoka could be portrayed as a wise Force user and also be very fun and laid back. That would send the message that she is really strong. Despite all the trauma she have been through she stayed true to herself. That is what I loved about that character, now she is just meh@@chiefbadmon
I was a fan of Rebels, Ezra's overall story in particular. But I admit the show had some problems. The biggest problem Is that Dave Filoni won't let anyone die. There's no consequences. Ahsoka lives. Maul lives. Fennec lives. Riva lives. The Grand Inquisitor lives. Sabine lives. Boba Fett lives. Cobb Vance lives. The big wookie shot 45 times is fine. Then, in the off-chance someone actually dies, Dave made the World Between Wotlds time travel device that can undo that as well.
How long are we betting on it being before Kanan comes back from the dead? Ahsoka should have stayed dead in Rebels (Clone Wars? I forget) when Vader killed her. That was a truly fitting end and a tragedy of Shakespearean proportions. That - besides the stupid gadgets- marked Filoni out as a hack long before this.
Robothead is right when he talked about Star Wars having a "small cartoon audience". That's really all Star Wars has left... the little true believers who will accept anything with a Star Wars label on it.
As much as I've written about SW these last few years, Robothead summed it all up in 3 words. Small Cartoon Audience. It's like they all live in a cinematic and literary vacuum. They don't see how other above avg or great stories inspired the creation of other great stories. While this one is largely uninspired outside of the ideas Filoni pasted from Lucas. Or the "young Kirk" scene he pasted from Star Trek 09 with Sabine on the freeway.
The cartoons are peak Star Wars imo even surpassing the OT. Hear me out on this the OT was great but the clone wars and rebels since they have all that time they are able to flesh out their characters and make them amazing. for example Maul was a mid villain at best in TPM but because of both clone wars and rebels he is one of the most beloved characters oat and Filoni is a good writer.. for the cartoons he certainly cannot direct a live action show that’s for sure. My favorite Star Wars characters oat are Anakin/Vader Captain Rex Ahsoka and Maul and Vader is for the ot but Anakin and maul would be mid tier for me and Ahsoka and rex wouldn’t even be on there if it weren’t for those shows so in conclusion Disney has decimated Star Wars except for the cartoons the cartoons are the only thing that Disney Star Wars has left to offer and I’m afraid starting with Ahsoka (a show that never should’ve been live action btw) Disney is gonna ruin that dude of Star Wars as well
Prequels may be have some stupid lore retcons and stale acting, but god damn, at least George Lucas had a vision and wanted to expand upon the universe he had created. And like you said, he surrounded himself with people who knew what they were doing and was open to some criticism
@@angelphoenix7784 Yeah, because the creators knew how to make Star Wars movies and did it because it was their passion and they enjoyed it, not for the sole purpose of money
Basically it boils down to people being flabbergasted that the people Lucas hired to help him make the prequels were largely in sync with him creatively (you know, as you might expect) and didn't constantly trash talk him while being filmed for behind-the-scenes footage. There's no real evidence that Lucas was surrounded by "yes men" to a greater extent than is usually the case. There's this whole mythology about how Lucas was constantly being challenged and put in his place by others during the making of the original trilogy, but if you do a little actual research you find very little evidence of that either, besides some claims made by disgruntled ex-producer Gary Kurtz who was fired halfway through Empire for incompetence and spent the next several decades constructing a self-aggrandizing narrative which recast himself as the hero of Star Wars.
Then why did you manbabies endlessly attack George Lucas over them? You cannot retcon away your words and actions. Just endless whining about everything.
I just don't think Asoka herself works in live action, she looks good in animation but really weird in reality. Like when Homer jumped into the real world
I loved Clone Wars, as It being that closed off middle point part of a prequel. Having It all spread into the Disney universe makes me feel like my nostalgia is being ripped apart for money.
the problem is that animation and live action just require vastly different styles of directing. As you mentioned real actors can be more subtile in their acting and expression and animation ist often times more over the top, but that what makes both of them as great as they are. The problem arises when you get someone to direct a live action movie the same way he would do an animation. That's part of the reason why live action movies for animes flop so often, you just can't show the things the fans learned to love in an animation through real actors
The one huge bantha in the room question is why is Ahsoka training Sabine in the ways of the force instead of Jacen? Sabine is not force sensitive but Jacen is the son of an actual Jedi who has that special connection the force. Can someone make this make sense to me? Even the droid, Huyang, is saying it's a waste of time in so many words.
To be fair, Huyang is a droid. He cannot sense whether she has force potential or not. Obi Wan was the weakest of the young jedi during his time but he became one of the most talented jedi because he worked hard.
Can't wait to hear what Robothead has to say after episode 3 where Ahsoka basically told her anyone can be force sensitive if they just practice lol. Everything is so watered down and meaningless anymore. Force for all, non lethal lightsabers, surviving clearly fatal injuries. It's ridiculous.
Why did they have to give Sabine the classic "I'm too smug and manly to care" attitude that's used in male character tropes? She wasn't like this in Rebels.
@@tufab3494 Rebels Sabine was a layered character. Although she was a bit reckless she was loyal to her crew and cared about them. She had her past mistakes and trauma. Not to mention her character arc in the series. This? This is bland.
@@a.s.raiyan2003-4 isn't it clear that something went on between the Ghost Crew after the Battle of Lothal? We don't know why Sabine and Ahsoka are mad at each other, so we can't just complain of her actitude towards it... When we get to know the past between both, we'll be able to trully compare ger way of dealing with Ahsoka. And her interaction with Hera was exactly how it used to happen in the series. Sabine is super well acted imo. Want it or not this show will eventually grow on you. Filoni has really set his stakes high on this one
Offscreen character development is a cardinal sin, especially with established characters that the audience is meant to be invested in and care about. Period.
Whilst me and a lot of other people love Rebels dearly and it’s a huge part of our love for Star Wars, but I do still think that the Ahsoka show hasn’t really done a good job of introducing these characters to people who are unaware of these characters and how their story started. The show needed to give an explanation even a brief one that catches up people who haven’t watched the animated shows. Whilst I love this show and these characters I do acknowledge that it is a struggle for people who don’t know or have a connection with these characters
Cant wait to see them do the goofy propeller fly in live action with inquisitor sabers. Ill never understand why people loved the cartoons but its funny to see them try to transfer everything to live action
The animated shows were okay for the most part. Honestly I don't think they'll have the helicopter saber effect happen. The closest they ever got to that outside of Rebels was Jedi Fallen Order, when one or two of the Inquisitors did a brief propeller attack that moved laterally during boss fights.
Ahsoka wasn't Filoni's idea, she was George Lucas's idea. Who wanted Anakin to have an apprentice to show how he matures from Episode 2 to 3 and wanted to create a new Star Wars character to appeal to girls, with his two young daughters at the time as his inspiration. Lucas named her after the ancient Indian emperor Ashoka. Then Filoni takes over and turns her into his waifu power-love pillow and now has her pretty much replacing Luke Skywalker in the OT saga
My favourite part is they turned her into a stoic, no nonsense, hard as nails, male and sidelined her for a girlboss. Disney has one horse to race don't they?
Stoic that’s one good way to summarize it, good comment But for me the show seems like they are trying to make a Witcher more then a Jedi ; what’s that about ,hmm so far I don’t like the show … I guess maybe they lost me after mando season 2
Every show made since GoT (still haven't watched it) has been a wannabe, a Frankensteins monster of whatever shows have been pop lately. Thats why everything feels like a walking dead/GoT/insert latest trendy show all in one. There is no creativity in Hollywoo.@@Dragon-pv5oj
Those cartoons are still 10x better than the live action shows. What’s strange is that despite the characters in Ahsoka being created from Filoni, they feel one-dimensional in the live action shows but feel like actual people in the cartoons, especially Ahsoka, good lord she is an entirely different person in the live action show.
@@moabman6803 I didn’t say she wouldn’t be different. The problem is that she acts like a Jedi despite denouncing herself as a Jedi. She has not been formally trained since the Clone Wars yet for some reason the way she acts and speaks is significantly different to Rebels. Sure, she could have changed during the five year gap between Rebels and Ahsoka. However, character development during a time skip is just lazy writing.
@@moabman6803 Just look at her portrayal in Rebels. She's still herself. Older, wiser, but still the Ahsoka we know. In this new show, it's like the one piece of advice they gave her was, "Ahsoka is depressed," and she bases her performance in every scene on that one singular idea.
See, I get the point that "what works in animation doesn't automatically work in live action," but disparaging Filoni's earlier work simply for being a cartoon is something I have issue with. It's far more accurate to disparage those works for their very serious flaws. Both have bland space battles, both resort to formulaic episodic plots at times, and both have episodes or even entire seasons that can be skipped without issue. Seriously, compare the action in Clone Wars to THE Clone Wars and there's no contest. So yes, bash Filoni all you want, he deserves it, but simply saying "he's bad because he does cartoons," is an oversimplification.
I think the point is something The Critical Drinker & co mentioned yesterday: there's a big difference between a show meant for a young audience, where you have lots of time and freedom to explore stuff and try arcs, and, on the other hand, a 6 ep live show where you have to deliver from day 1, with a much smaller cast and scale. One of this show's problems is that it relies so much on external knowledge (Rebels, basically), and many people haven't watched that. So we don't know why Thrawn is so important, we don't know why Ashoka is important, we don't know why Ezra is important, etc. So far they've found another mcguffin map that makes no sense, and they've had a couple fights. And we've learned that anyone can use the Force now, and that Ashoka can teleport (except when it would actually be useful). I don't think Filoni is gonna be able to bring it home by the time the season ends; it's gonna feel like the end of an arc in CW, rather than the end of a season.
Not just that. He fakes the comparison between the speed ups. The speed of the animated sequence is barely sped up while the live-action is seemingly doubled. I made a quick comparison with the original scenes. This really forces his insecure narrative about cartoons. Also the animated choreography is motion capture so live-action actors were doing the action too.
It's not that it's a cartoon. It's that it's a CGI "cartoon" with an annoying art style and simplistic dialog --- that makes it even less watchable than simplistic dialog cartoons from the 80s, because at least these have a super high 80s charm.
@putt7515 except for the many, many times it was worse than Clone Wars. Also, Rebels did Thrawn dirty, so even if it was as good as Clone Wars in its other aspects, which it isn’t, it still would be worse.
You know looking at that scene with Sabine, I only realized (because no one else show the scenes with the fighters better) that's the E-Wing from the old EU. Why did Ahsoka have to be that fighters first onscreen appearance? And as a police vehicle too. It deserves better.
I am SO GLAD someone addressed the awkward arm cross :/ People on Twitter were arguing that's her "favorite pose" ᵇᵘᵗ I can recall her putting her hands on her hips the same if not more
It reminds me of promotional material for almost every network TV drama, where the cast stand at a 3/4 angle, arms crossed, and looking at you from the corner or their eyes
What's particularly egregious about the light sabre thing, even more than the fact that it's the fourth time in recent Star Wars media for that specific, basically identical move to be performed, is that it was pretty widely panned when it happened in Obi Wan by viewers, reviewers, critics etc and yet Dave Filoni felt it necessary to place within this new series. Either he is so out of touch that he didn't realise people hated it happening the first time or that he despises the fans so much that he is making it happen again just to piss them off. My money is on the latter, but both are quite seriously bad for the supposed saviour of Star Wars and for a show runner in general. Such a shame that it's turned out this way, as Rebels has some genuinely great characters and some great moments that are borne of their actions. Even among the annoying amount of filler episodes and the consistent ineptitude of the empire (seriously, why do the bad guys have to be so incompetent? If the enemy are so repeatedly incapable, then the story has no stakes), there are brilliant relationships and character arcs that you can actually be moved by and learn a moral lesson from. Similar to the prequels, the execution wasn't perfect, but the fundamental skeleton of a good story was there. Most of Disney live-action, however, fails both at the execution and the vision. There is no good story hidden within the sum of the product, just meaninglessness and a total waste of time. Star Wars is truly dead and Disney killed it. R.I.P.
Filoni is an hypocrite a two face kissing KK’s ass He did the lightsaber think to piss off fans he doesn’t care about the fans. As for the savior of Star Wars my bet was more on Jon Favereau but with mando season 3 im not too sure anymore. But in all seeing this reminds me that Star Wars is dead. Thanks Shitney
These replies make me realise my comment ended on quite a depressing note...that was not my intention. Let's remember that we'll always have the light that is the original trilogy and, if you don't hate them, the prequels. Blockbuster movies that also manage to tell a meaningful story, that provide figures to look up to, and lessons to live by. Something I also thought about is this: bad content like modern Star Wars is tragic but it should inspire us to tell our own stories, to make something special like George endeavoured to do all those years ago. Let's keep hope alive and strive to be better than this nonsense.
I hate how movies/shows portray people going very fast on a bike with near-zero face protection like it's the most casual thing ever. She must be going 120 mph in that scene, but her hair is lightly wafting in the wind, and she's calmly chatting with the pilot while wearing a half helmet. What even? I'm wearing a full helmet that is specifically designed to keep noise out, and I can barely hear my own thoughts when I'm on the highway. Meanwhile, anything not strapped down tight is either whipping around or trying its best to detach and enter orbit. And don't even get me started on her not wearing some kind of mouth guard. Lothal must not have any flying insects, because I swear, those fuckers aim straight for the mouth when they spot a rider.
The arm crossing thing is the result of not having "blocking" or "business" for the actors. Partly from bad directing and partly from shooting on green screen/the volume. Actors need to know where they need to stand and move for blocking the scene. And they also need to know their "business" which is the stuff the character is doing while they are having their conversation. That's why a lot of actors like to eat during a scene, or be looking thru a fridge to grab a drink. People generally don't just stand around and converse... they communicate while they are doing something else... preparing dinner, folding laundry, fixing something on their car, etc. Actors like to have business in a scene so they can immerse themselves in the world/scene, and avoid awkwardly standing around or sauntering aimlessly.
There's also the problem in that 90% of the scenes are exposition. The characters don't have any particular dramatic intent aside from talking to each other about people who aren't onscreen. It's almost as if the writers don't know what they're doing and haven't really thought through any of it out such that anyone on set could have also figured out the little bits of business they could be doing.
But that makes it harder to direct cause it requires continuity which they somehow still screwed up in blocking when Ahsoka has arms folded in mid shot and hands are by her side in wide shot
@@GreenLightMe ya. But I think they usually have someone specifically assigned to continuity for big productions. Keeping track of continuity of props, makeup, costumes, etc.
What if this ends with Ahsoka meeting a young girl and unlocking her hidden secret powers, like in Dragonball Z. Then she asks, "what is your name?" "Ray Palpatine," the girl replies. Then Ahsoka looks on at the force ghost of Anakin who smiles upon her, and she says, "I've got a much better name for you..." Then Ray gets amnesia or something. I could see them pulling this.
And then she goes back into the background during the First Order/Resistance conflict and then comes back to say some words after all the conflict is done and Rey is working.
@@motherplayer Oh! And the force ghost of Anakin should be like, "I should stay here with this girl because she is more important than my son or my troubled nephew." But that's before the amnesia.
Star Wars Rebels and Bad Batch had the same pacing and directing problems. Ahsoka having the same issues doesn't surprise me. Filoni is not a good director.
It's much worse in Ahsoka because at least in animation they tend to not stretch the scenes to save money on animation, but here he just doesn't cut any of the footage filmed.
I'm not much of a Star wars fan, but I still say the worst decision was Darth Maul surviving being cut in literal half and falling down that abyss thing
That actually ended up being awesome, wdym? Maul’s arc with Obi-Wan was one of the best things Filoni ever did. What’s ironic is Filoni killed Maul using a single lightsaber attack in Rebels. Now he’s forgotten about it.
I also hated it, but at least he had a good story after that. But yeah, that was beyond stupid... They should've just made the same story but with savage and no maul. I get that he got revived because he felt like a wasted character, everyone thought he looked so cool on episode 1 and he didn't even had 10 min on screen. So people wanted more, but it was stupid nonetheless.
@connorrobinson9548 Maul was never revived. He survived off of the dark side of the force. He was so angry at the jedi he lived off of crazy rage, especially toward Kenobi. Maul ends up being a very interesting and evil villain. A lot of people took issue with him living through being cut in half until they watched about 20 minutes in.
I'm always amazed how easy it is for you to show all the mediocrity in these shows while others will only see something decent/acceptable at worst. I think you're absolutely brilliant and a much needed voice.
If you think we need more people honestly shitting on Star Wars then you are on the wrong side of TH-cam. I'm not saying I don't like the content, I do, but there are literally hundreds of channels doing the exact same thing.
@@20TonChop We don't need more people shitting on Star Wars, we only need people like him. The reason he's a much needed voice is because he understands filmmaking and is able to show effortlessly how Disney SW is actually much worse than people think.
@@vengeance6833 I never said he was the only one, you obviously missed my point. What I think is that his SW criticism is the one people need to hear because he's the best at it.
The more is watch the more I realise that Star Wars peaked during the OG trilogy. The prequels, animated shows and definitely not the one's made under Disney.
The original trilogy was great, they are classic space opera, very rewatchable. The prequels are good but tedious and have limited rewatchability due to multiple glaring issues. However, they were designed and directed with earnestness and love by Lucas, you can sense that. Everything after that, save for maybe a few scenes in Mando and Rogue 1, is merely a cash grab by Bob Iger, who doesn't give one flying fuck about story or honoring a cinematic legacy of any kind, much less Star Wars.
@@TheBoondoggler I like to say that the Prequels can be saved. With good editing, Jar Jar can be cut way back in TPM, which really helps the pacing of that film, because Jar Jar only seems to interrupt the flow of the film most of the time. The romance in AOTC can be made a lot better, and the cringe dialogue can be removed (I actually made a video on my other channel, Reel Busy Editing, that shows how to re-cut the romance in AOTC). And Revenge of the Sith can become more focused when you remove or cut way down on a couple of the lightsaber fights, among other things. But I do agree that George made those movies with love. He just needed help on the writing and editing side of things.
I've been waiting for your thoughts on this one! Glad to see someone openly calling out the girl boss path that the show has taken; yes Ahsoka is a girl, and she is a great character, but why do we need every other character of any significance or authority to be female? Ray Stevenson's character is great (he was an excellent actor), but he has a female boss and will likely be killed (or somehow made to be irrelevant) and replaced by his female apprentice anyway. I particularly loved the crossed arms sequence!
7:47 I just find it weird... that Thrawn would build an entire temple complex... set up a combination lock in it... bury the map macguffin inside a pillar of volcanic ash?... just so's you have to get through all that to find him... I mean... when did he disappear? Or did he just co-opt an already EXISTING ancient temple rube-golberg complex and put his map in it... and redecorate the walls... to match his map motif...
I laughed out loud when Sabine was stabbed; here we go again! Also, Disney ruined that pathetic attempt at a dramatic cliffhanger by airing the two first episodes on the same day, back to back. LOL Imagine The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi premiering the same day....
If I miss anyone please help me out here. But basically, an amateur stormtrooper, 2 inquisitors who mind you are only midly force-sensitive, and a padawn have all been struck with lightsabers, some of them were even impaled, in Disney Star Wars but all have survived. Qui Gon Jinn, who was a master lightsaber duelist trained by freaking Count Dooku, was killed when he was struck by one just once. I miss when lightsaber duels meant something.
That thing you said about empire. George actually did reshoots on empire after he saw Irvin kirshners cut and it was so bad it made Marcia lucas cry and George was furious. So he probably had a lot to do with that production as well. Not just writing.
No.🤣🤣🤣 George tried to re-edit Irvin's cut because he didn't like how slow the movie was, but George couldn't find a way to re-edit it to make it "faster, more intense", so he had to leave it alone. That's what infuriated him. Also, George hated the, "I know," line from Han when Leia said, "I love you." George wanted Han to say, "I love you too." George argued with Irvin about that line, so Irvin said to put the two takes (both lines were filmed) in front of a test audience and get their feedback. The test audience raved about Han saying, "I know", so George agreed to leave it alone. So no, George didn't re-shoot and alter Irvin's cut, and if Marcia was crying, it's because Irvin made a great film. Everything George wanted to change didn't get changed. It was proven that Irvin's way was the better way. And if you need any evidence of that, then just look at how Empire is always called the greatest Star Wars film while A New Hope and Return of the Jedi get criticized in places. If George had anything to do with Empire, it would've turned out more like the other two films that he directed himself (the director of Return was just a puppet director; George was on the set doing the directing on that movie).
@@G360LIVE yeah but I still think that George should get more credit for empire because it’s still his story and the only reason he didn’t direct it because he didn’t want the stress of what he went through on a new hope.
@@G360LIVE well I did some digging and I was correct. On screen rants list of 15 things you didn’t know about the empire strikes back they list it at number 7 that when George saw the rough cut of the film he was furious at Irvin kirshner as he staked his entire fortune on the film. He went back and did extensive reshoots and even got a loan from fox. And he even reworked Han and Leias entire love plot.
It is sad, it is actually terribly tragic that something that started out as a show made for kids turned into one of the greatest pieces of Television to grace our screens in the past 2 decades of Star Wars media(Clone Wars). Yet the Live action Movies and shows feel like emotionless childish piles of Dribble.
This is the course of animation as an industry. Even if the Clone Wars is leagues better in every way than live action shows like this, one will be discarded immidietly as shitty kids show and the other as a "proffessional industry work" even if it's terrible.
I don't think that's true. Since the 90s, with Batman the animated series, people realized that animated shows can be mature. Just look at the Simpsons, King of The Hill, American Dad, Futurama, Family Guy, etc
@@vestavindSW never was meant to be relatable on a cultural level and it did just that in my opinion with Andor, it was made from a human perspective. The original trilogy was about awesome space wizards but space wizards nonetheless; what was relatable in the original trilogy was the relationship between father and son, not really about who or what they were.
@@vestavindit was logical for the most part (star wars wise) and the story was plausible and pretty well written so i would say it was a good first season
I agree the lightsaber needs to be addressed, why its so powerful before, and now its treated like a real sword now. And they also should have created a short primer on the events from the Rebels cartoon, so that the casual "fans" who don't read the books, play the games, or see the toons can try to enjoy the show... because the only "true star wars canon" for them is the one shown only in theaters.
Even the "casual" doesn't care about the films nowadays. Anything they know about Star Wars us hearsay and a bit of misinformation. The actual "casuals" can't tell you the difference from Star Wars and Star Trek.
"Treated like a real sword now"? Huh? A real sword thrust through the torso would be LETHAL. There's no real sword in existence that isn't lethal if it passes right through someone's torso.
@@KeldorDAntrell Your right a real sword is lethal, but there are cases that people survive. There are real world instances that a few lucky individuals being impaled by sharp and blunted objects in the torso, head, and even the heart is not the end, unless they get the proper medical intervention. The likelihood of someone dying goes down a bit, and if the stars align, that person can recover from a devastating wound with medical SCIENCE, and live to see another day!
I was looking forward to your take on Ashoka and glad to see you did not disappoint. Good luck on sticking it through for the rest of the show, as always it's only downhill from here.
And complain about how the actresses cross their arms... Genial, keep falling for others' opinions... At the end of the day there are 2 types of person in the world...
No one's seriously complaining about crossed arms. That was obviously a gag. The most common complaints are the expressionless, bland, and plodding manner in which the characters behave. Given that the actresses are capable, it's got to be the direction they're getting.
Cause you need a contrast, you need to watch something bad to differentiate the bad with the good and why specifically that is. Sometimes you can see something you though it was gonna be bad and find something you really like or an underrated good work. Unfortunatelly, Ashoka is not a good work, but who would have guessed?
Just a reminder that in Timothy Zahns Thrawn trilogy he just returned from the Unknown Regions with 6 Stardestroyers under his command and reached out to other remaining Imperial forces because he could use his rank and offer results like winning with 1 Stardestroyer against a New Republic task force of 4 assault frigates and "3 wings of starfighters" and won. No MacGuffin map leading to him no "hes just waiting for us" no, Thrawn was taking the lead and others would follow.
@@oXRaptorzXo Thrawn has spent the last decade probably playing chess with Ezra. When the imperial remnants find him in the final episode, he'll probably be like "I'm retired now, I don't care for your petty galactic war"
2:15 Small correction but there definitely are animations out there that have characters with some pretty highly sophisticated and realistic movements and expressions as well as voice acting. However, even then in animation having that degree of realism in your characters is still less dependent on having a good director to guide people and more on having really dedicated and talented animators that are willing and able to put in the often excruciating work necessary to make that possible.
The thing is, animators are experts at making drawings move, not at directing (which is an expertise in conveying communication through acting i.e. voice, movement, expression, gesture, posture etc. and a host of other means of communicating to the viewing audience e.g. proxemics (the distance of the camera from the subject), the angle of the camera, et al.). The best animation is created by a synthesis of the expertise of the director with that of the animator/s i.e. the director carefully communicates exactly how the animated character emotes, moves, what body language they convey with posture, etc. (not forgetting the work of the voice actor, of course). I think Robot Head understands that animation at its best can be just as good as live action (just as live action can be far worse than it ought to be) and was just making a broad point.
You remember when they killed Han off way back when. They showed that lightsaber go right thru him. And the reason they showed a lightsaber go thru his chest was so the whole audience knew he was dead dead. Not coming back dead. That seemed to be the one and only time they knew getting stabbed in the chest with a lazer sword was lethal
Han and Qui Gon Jin. Both were impaled the same way and the consequences were lasting. I honestly think Darth Maul’s impaling of Qui Gon Jin was intended to allow him to die slowly and painfully. Disney turning around and having no less than three characters easily survive these impalings is unbelievably insulting and lazy. Reva didn’t even need medical attention to survive hers. She went on an intergalactic trip right after followed by a long walk on Tattooine. Sabine’s impaling was so unnecessary. The baddie could have just as easily gotten away with no harm done to Sabine and the consequences would have been the same.
@@dutchbosoxfan8919 I hope you’re right. This series hasn’t displayed the best creative writing so far. Basically goodies and baddies racing to the same destination. I’m hoping there’s an interesting plot twist at some point.
Animation and Live Action are two *very* different fields when it comes to filmmaking. So having a director whose only made animated works work on a Live Action work with very little practice isn’t a good idea. It’s like going from Golf to Disc Golf. The two sports have the same goal, to get the lowest score, but they do it completely differently, and the same is for filmmaking. Writing also has to be different, as the story also has to be realistic and possible to portray with live people and CGI, not animated models. Also, when writing stories in the same universe as another story, consistency is the *most* important thing to do and get right. So having a character act so strange from how we knew them previously isn’t a good way to write. Also, if your budget is near limitless, then your scenes should be at least comparable to similar scenes from earlier in the series.
I think the single biggest problem that’s really coming through in Ahsoka is that Kathleen Kennedy and her sycophants are overtly focusing on discriminating against and excluding men because they hate them. The result is a show that feels awkward because of all the girl bosses that are supportive of each other all the time in a universe in which there are no consequences, no high stakes, no good dialogue, no good action scenes.
Yes, Kathleen Kennedy hates men and is discriminating against them, and she has sycophants. Thank goodness there is a woman at the top to blame for all your grievances.
This is a bad take. Their mission is to find thrawn and ezra. Kanan died. I really don't get these girl boss comments here. Ahsoka and sabine have been irritated by each other since the first episode. This isn't a female characters issue, it's just an issue with writers who don't get star wars.
I started doing this thing when watching shows like ahsoka, where I'd ask myself "but why?" Sabine wants to be trained like a jedi, but why? Shes a mandalorian... Those are jedi killers. She needed to be trained with the darksaber because the fate of mandalore rested on her shoulders in Rebels, but here? And dont even get me started on the "the force resides in all living things so she can be a jedi" because we're gonna be here all day if we discuss that dumpster fire of an idea the show brought up in Ep.3.
Obviously the white male Captain from the first episode survived too right? Right guys? Oh, no he's dead? Oh I see, lightsabers are only effective against white male characters but if you're a minority or female (preferably both) then you can have your spine slashed open with a lightsaber, get stabbed through the guts (twice by the same person) or otherwise survive with less visible scarring than an appendectomy....Got it 👎 fck Disney star wars
In a better show, Shin would have used a strong Force push to throw Sabine against the tower wall to knock her out. She could recover from a concussion in the next episode. But, whatever.
Yeah idk, it shouldn't require insane creative skills to come up with an actually recoverable way to incapacitate Sabine in this situation. Still too hard for the best writers Disney Star Wars has to offer though it seems.
As many people may start pointing out, there are quotes out there from George Lucas basically saying that almost anyone can use the Force to some extent. I think Ahsoka's comments about that fits what he said. But talent is a factor, and also characters like Anakin and Luke are especially powerful "prodigies" I think.
How did he create such a good character in the animated series, only to make that same character so boring in a live action series. The actress has obviously been directed to portray Ahsoka the way she is, and its nothing like the Ahsoka we love from the animated series.
Yeah, watching any animated Ahsoka compilation after that I'm like "Wtf dude ?". Like, i get that time passes and people change, but your character is liked for a reason ; you can't just make it unrecognisable and dull af and still expect fans to like it the same because it bears the same name.
@@DeadlySins-op1gl this is why I'm not sure Filoni has full creative control over these characters, because he's demonstrated that he can make lovable characters in the cartoons, I don't understand how they could be so different if he was the one making the decisions still
Welcome Legends! Let's do this 👍
How goes being funny Australian robot?
"umm captain I just read our basic security procedures and they say, do not let any weird random shuttles into your ship when you have a high value prisoner"
"shut up number 2, you're fired."
Alright.. Yo.. why is the show lit like daytime rerun of Mexican telenovellas?
Momma always says legend is as legend does
Hey, you! Stop upsetting autistic neo-Star Wars fans, you ableiiiiiist. REE! 8[
Back in my day, lightsabers were deadly weapons that could cut through literally anything.
So...pre-Disney?
@@ggt47 Yes.
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Literally. Even Beskar wasn't lightsaber proof until Disney made Mandalorian
@@TraceguyRune The EU.
Lightsabers went from being deadly weapons to meaningless props. Every damn series a girl boss gets stabbed through the stomach with one then just appears in the next episode like she fell over and grazed her knee.
Tis but a scratch
@@popegramzz479A scratch?!
In my head I read the title as "Ahsoka is A-joke-a"
I would like this twice if I could
@@bowseryoutuber3881 haha call it low hanging fruit. But it couldn't miss.
Disney turned one of the most awesome fantasy weapons into a tickle stick. The Jedi may as well carry a Nerf bat.
Spot on
Now it's a longsword with RGB
A light saber is a laser sword that can cut anything like butter how do you fuck that up
@@inquisitionexpecter4263 a longsword thrust through the torso will kill.
@@KeldorDAntrell is either a crappy longsword with rgb or thicc plot armor
I can't believe the new writers of Star Wars don't know how a lightsaber works
0:00 the show has normies asking "Can you die from that?" 🤣🤣🤣
@@jesterssketchbook”but it went to the left and there was a medical bay😩”
Dave Baloney fvcked up lightsabers in the Rebels cartoon - made them way to thin and less intimidating, and also made the Inquisitors use them to fly around like helicopters for Christ sakes.
It gets very easy to believe as the more they keep doing this.
@@disenfranchisedver1tech598 He already f***ed with lightsabers when he brought back Maul, who somehow survived being cut in half and falling from who knows how long of a distance/height.
“Can you die from that?”
Disney Star Wars’ ideal viewer
It's truly abhorrent what Disney has made of star wars. Unfortunately like most franchises they are slowly getting the new generations molded to these laughable stories as they will not know better and think that is what good story and Character development is.
that's so sad I'm dreading the future of media entertainment
Bro exactly!!! Younger audiences have no choice but to exist in a cinematic vacuum. They actually think this is good storytelling because they have nothing to compare it to.
Na. The younger generation has zero interest in this garbage wars. Star wars is over. Let disney burn down financially. And we don't need no water let the mfer burn! Burn mfer burn!
You seem to be forgetting that George Lucas put Caravan of Courage into Star Wars canon.
@SprocketList Coppola, who ended up bringing you Godfather 3 starring his own daughter? Scorsese who made the same movie with the same actors over and over again - Casino-Bull-Fellas. And George. Dear George Lucas who made such an utter shambles of the prequels that he wrecked the entire franchise and got away with it due to short attention spans and then sold the company and IP for a billion dollars.
Ah yes, as a woman I feel so represented by smug looking alien boss women. Just like Rey spoke deeply to me with her not needing to train to become powerful. Clearly modern day Star Wars has figured us out.
@@zogwort1522 Then I have the wrong double-X chromosomes. I want strong male heros not some femboys.
@@wolpertingera5829 You will get what your given and like it, then again maybe if you fold your arms at them & flex hard enough you will get your strong boys back.
@@zogwort1522 Are you sure it isn't the Le Tigra?
It’s all to please the M O D E R N A U D I E N C E S
Please don't pretend to be a woman online.
It's cringe.
“Some how Palpatine returned” would be the worst line/explanation for a villain’s return EVER
I mean it was the backstory itself that ruined it
I've heard better dialog from my nephews playing Star Wars
I don't think I have it in me to even watch a dunk on a Star Wars series. I'm so done with it all, it's not even sad anymore. Just, I feel nothing. Nevertheless, good video as always
I just watched The Woke Critic's take on Ahsoka and it made me feel so much better. 😆
@@WarstubNever heard of him, but judging from the name the channel has to be a joke right?
@@racool911 It's some goddamn excellent parody, that's what it is!
It's probably the only parody I enjoy, and I normally dislike parody.
Seems like you’ve passed through the final stage of grieving. Sad.
Your "Disney doesn't understand Lightsabers" video gets better with every crappy Disney plus show
Yes 😅
@@RobotHead He is saying that your manbaby rants are boring and repetitive. We get it, you make money from hating a tv show meant for 12-year-olds. Do the words sell out, hate merchant, and hack mean anything to you?
@@RobotHeadSo When Anakin was Cut in half and lit on fire but lived was fine though right? Or when maul was cut in half and fell down a bottomless pit and lived was fine though right? Or When Star killer was stabbed through the chest was fine right? Plus qui-gon did not die instantly he was laying there for several minutes before obi-wan got to him unlike sabine who was instantly rushed to the hospital.
@@ryancampbell5352anakin wasnt cut in half
@@ryancampbell5352first off Anakin lost his limbs and there are people who have survived burns all over their body in real life.
And second using extended material from a cartoon or video game to defend a crappy show doesn't help your argument. It was just as dumb there as it is here so what makes this better?
Qui gon jinn must be beyond pissed off at this point as the list of people “getting stabbed with a lightsaber” grows ever more vast
The thing about the lightsabre deaths also, besides being worse than a blaster shot which kills people easily, is that the sith who stab a jedi with a lightsabre just leave them behind with the assurance that no one can survive it. If it was established lore that people can survive lightsabre impalings then you would think the sith would finish them off after the stabbing. So it's clear that this is a new thing Disney introduced and a sign of bad writing and lack of awareness of the lore.
Sabine was also lucky that the evil jedi lady took out the saber the same way she stab her, she could have just move to the right or the left and slice her in two
The alternative would be to have the lightsaber strike bounce off some armor or hit Sabine in a non lethal area for minimal inconvenience
@@TheScarletSlayer Why even go that far. How about we get rid of all forms of violence and have a dance off? That way, no one dies and everyone can walk away afterward feeling like they gave it their best!
@@meal_team_six Why stop there!! Let's have both contestants win because the villain was actually a hero this whole time and something something do the right thing in a bad way.
True, the only reason a Sith would be content with just a stab it'd be because it's 100% deadly (and it was in Lucas SW).If not SW would become The Texas Chainsaw Massacre in space
Can you die from that? In George's Star Wars a lightsaber was a very deadly weapon. In Disney Star Wars getting run through with a lightsaber is super easy, barely an inconvenience.
"How did Sabine not die from being stabbed with a weapon that literally melts your insides?"
"Hey, shut up. So, she gets stabbed, and then she heals up later. Meanwhile..."
@@G360LIVE"No, no. You see, the hot plasma sword that melts steel when connected missed A VITAL ORGAN, so it's all fine. Stop nitpicking everything!"
@@Arko777777Yeah or when maul gets cut in half and falls down a bottomless pit and lives haha dumb disney, oh wait...
@@ryancampbell5352 Cutting off limbs isn't the problem. Maul surviving is also bullshit. Nice try though.
Qui-Gon could've been saved if there was more help. He was still alive after the stab until Obi-Wan defeated Maul.
its funny how an ancient map, locked in an ancient temple, hidden in a remote planet in the middle of nowhere can tell you how to find a guy who went missing a few years ago. it presumes that the heroes know that their target is in planet (insert name) but dont know where the planet is. how do they know he's on that particular planet? don't ask questions, just consume product!
I didn’t watch the episode…
It was in an ancient temple?? 😂
FUCK, man, I really wanted to like this thing…
Somehow a Disney Star Wars show not being good does not surprised me 😂
It’s to be expected
@@chasehedges6775 It is the way!
Agreed. I was genuinely shocked at how good Andor was. I was expecting absolute garbage that was on par with all Disney SW
@@Lobosalsa9Andor was middle of the road. You just got played again with that one...
@@allankles Trust me, I despise Disney SW, but that show was very good, and it almost hurts to say that, because Disney sucks.
Sabine is sooo strong and independent, she doesn't even need a liver.😆
Or an Aorta or spinal chord. Her injury was midline; when she woke up, her wound changed locations.
She didn’t get to stay in one of those Hospital aquariums either.
I mean, in the newest episode, they made clear that she was actually one of the weakest force user that had been in allowed to train as a jedi. And then proceeded to do terribly in Jedi training, at least purely beyond the basics. Which- tell me if I'm wrong here, but isn't that something that bucks that trend of Star Wars female characters being that soooo strong and independent quality?
@@josephhernandez5386
It was the robot that said this repeatedly. It has a male’s voice programmed in; so, it was mansplaining trying to oppress the woman. I have a feeling she’s going to predictably shock everyone by doing some Force maneuvers. Perhaps a ripoff of Neo’s doubt in The Matrix.
@@9StickNateif you've watched rebels she's been training for a very long time. It would be a relief to finally see her powers come to fruition.
“Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.” That line meant everything what is was to be a Jedi. Now it’s absolutely worthless because Disney destroyed the essence of the franchise.
I bloody hate that mural. There's no logical sense for it to be in same art style as animated show. It's stuff of comedy live action adaptations! Really, look at Flintstones movie, when we see Bedrock newspaper and Fred looks like his cartoon self instead of John Goodman.
I get what you're saying but it's still supposed to be art so its excusable that its in that style
I'm just so sick of promising stories and characters being dragged down by neurotic writing habits. Every good moment or idea is followed by a dumb one that tarnishes the impact of anything good
Still trying to find the "good moment or idea."
The Halo franchise since 343 took over
@@PepeSilviaPennypacker True :(
I love Mary Winstead but I hate everything shes in except Birds of Prey must be her looks
Putting the mechanics of a lightsaber aside, having characters constantly survive potentially mortal wounds removes any tension or stakes. It’s like if most of the characters who died in Game of Thrones instead recovered by the next episode. Pretty quickly you don’t care about the next conflict because the consequences are minimal to none
LOL that _did_ happen in GOT. Did you forget about how the Dothraki just resurrected? They suicide charged the Night Walkers - and then next thing you know, they’re invading the capital.
@disguisedcentennial835 well, that's the final season, where nothing made sense anymore lol.
Like wtf would you send light cavalry to charge the enemy head on, in the dark when you are the defender in a siege? Especially an undead enemy lol
@@disguisedcentennial835that was precisely why the show was shit by the end
"Can you die from that?" These people walk amongst us. We share roads with them.
At this point, we owe it to ourselves to refer to Disney Star Wars as something else. They don't deserve the label Star Wars. Utterly pathetic. Shame Gisney, Shame!!!
Exactly, Disney Star Wars is not Star Wars. It is a farce
Kathy Sue Wars.
It is Kathleen's self-insert fiction after all.
Honestly now I'm questioning if Star Wars was ever really good. Looking back the original trilogy wasn't even all that
@@racool911 - The original has been showing it's age for awhile. Empire and Return are still great. Probably because Lucas handed them over to other directors.
@racool911 How old are you? The OG trilogy are in a different ballpark. Disney's attempts at SW aren't even worthy of the name to me. But again, if you think they're even comparable, that says more about you.
Kurgan: I have something to say! It's better to burn out than to fade away! [He dances out of the church, cackling.]
I actually felt the characters of Hera and Sabine took a step down from Rebels to Ashoka.
Everything Hera does in the cartoons feels intense. Whereas in live action she feels slow.
And Sabine... in the cartoons she's vibrant, creative, thoughtful.
Despite how little she appears in it, Hera actually had more personality in Squadrons than this.
Rebels had some amazing scenes, like Darth Mauls final duel.
@@bunkerhousing That one isn't perfect because Maul doesn't repeat his tactic with Qui-Gon and just instantly goes for the slam...
Hera's conversation with Mon Mothma and the other senators in episode 3 is some of the worst TV writing I've seen in years.
@@PickpocketJonesI don't know if they are being this bad on purpose or they just terrible writers or both.
Clone Wars was a much better animated show than Rebels, but I think that was because Lucas was still heavily involved.
The only time i liked anything from rebels was Ashoka vs Vader and that was only because of their shared past in Clone Wars.
ahsoka should of died it would of completed her arc
The exception to the rule that animation directors cannot make live action is Brad Bird going from Pixar to Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol.
I think it's awesome that Carrie Fisher went on to become a script doctor, along with her illustrious acting career after her experiences with Star Wars.
Crossing your arms can be a defensive posture too. Perhaps the actresses felt so awkward on set they got subconsciously defensive.
I mean fair, but I always thought ahsoka always does that
Nitpicking taken to such an extreme degree. Go watch something else manbaby.
@@TheRahyahThe Clone Wars Pose.
If so the director should point it out and direct them not to do it. No director worth his salt would fail to know what gestures, body language, and posture communicates (no actress should either).
@@TheRahyah even if it's a thing for Ahsoka, a good director would know what the gesture communicates and realise that it's wrong for a jedi. The jedi just aren't arrogant. They are supposed to be as close to perfect beings as is possible, paragons of virtue, excellence, and wisdom. Posturing like a boss is a thing for only the insecure and immature, for those who seek validation from others.
The 'crossing-arms' sequence is hilarious.
Apparently that's what Filoni/Dawson think 'stoic' means. Lmao. 'Yeah, yeah, you need to be like a strong warrior, the silent type, so, like... just stand there, crossing your arms and looking superior, and do everything slowly'.
Girl bosses apparently have to look smug and stoic all the time. It's their trade mark. What a joke.
So they wanted Aragorn II (female version)
@@inquisitionexpecter4263 Kinda. Except Aragorn was very proactive and showed his soft side with Arwen. If they make Ashoka hook up with someone (unlikely), I have no doubt it will be a woman, and it will be strictly fun, no long-term committement.
Maybe you haven't noticed, but crossing her arms is kinda her thing... dating waaay back to the Clone Wars MOVIE...
@@LordStarbeard Makes sense that Filoni would ask the actress that, then.
What about the smugness and the ever-present slowliness (except when she teleports when training Sabine)? Is that her thing from CW, too?
Both Rosario and Mary Elizabeth act like they are balancing books on their heads while they deliver their lines…which, given the elaborate head pieces that make up their costumes, may be the case.
Thanks you for pointing out the constant arm crossing. I’ve only watched the first two episodes and have no intention of giving it more attention than that. Looking forward to more of your excellent roasting though. Thanks once more for taking one for the team.
What a critique
"Arm crossing"
lol
Watching them just makes me wanna cross my arms 😂
@@tufab3494Your incessant need to respond to every comment you can about how ridiculous their critiques are is just as ridiculous as the people you're getting upset at. Stay mad
@@seanbarton4530 why is it ridiculous? Just because your anti woke bs lost all its sense already?
@@tufab3494you must be fairly young, friend.
Oh, Robot Head. I knew you would notice all the crossed arms, too. Thank you so much for the Arms Crossed Super Cut. I wanted to see that so badly after the first episode.
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What irritates me nore than most of the garbage Disney has done with Star Wars are those reactions of those "infuencers" or fans or whomever those buffoons are at the end of the video. Their reactions are so phony and overdone, that or they're truly lacking any mental awareness. I'd believe either.
Here's how it happened. After the death of Qui-gon Jin Everyone was so sad that the Republic senate immediately passed legislation, requiring the intensity of the plasma heat of lightsabers to be dialed down. They didn't want anyone dying from any more gut shots after that. So now it's a mere maiming weapon. Like paintball.
All energy weapons have to be neutered to not cause permanent damage otherwise it would be classified as an "Deadly Assault Laser Sword" which would put owners on the Space ATF shit-list.
I get the feeling they're gonna "pull a Snoke" and just kill Thrawn quickly after meeting him. Can't have a male character possibly be intimidating or threatening to these girl bosses. I wouldn't be shocked if Reva makes an appearance. Another feather in KK's cap.
Soooo true. KK hates George Lucas and the EU.
Snoke is Palpatine's creation, what we are going to see is extra-galactic
If they kill Thrawn off like that there would be literal outrage.
@@a.s.raiyan2003-4nah, the people who would care are not watching this crap
@@mfmageiwatchliterally everybody is watching and loving it, you are like those dudes in the back of the class that nobody really wants to talk to
Qui Gon Jinn: Don't get stabbed by a lightsaber, it'll kill you instantly.
Disney: Hold my beer.....
Dave Filoni was better when he had George Lucas over his shoulder collaborating with him on The Clone Wars, after that Filoni fell off the deep end.
It's been a longtime since I saw Clone Wars or Rebels, but I remember Ahsoka, Hera and Sabine being a lot more lively and likable than their live action portrayals. 🤔
100% Anakin called Ashoka snips because she was always joking and you know snippy but in this she's just 😶😶😑 and its just boring I get it she's a super serious jedi master but common
Indeed. Why Ashoka suddenly has the personality of a plank of wood is strange. I get they want her to seem all at peace and one with the universe but in reality she just comes across dull and lifeless.
@@braxxian well she is no longer a teenager that's probably why
Robot head did go too far with his cartoon rant. Cartoons can emote and do more than he thinks, the problem is they dont know how to do it in live action. That and robot head wont ever see clone wars himself xp.
You know? This demostrate how the writers really are ignorant of human feelings. Ahsoka could be portrayed as a wise Force user and also be very fun and laid back. That would send the message that she is really strong. Despite all the trauma she have been through she stayed true to herself. That is what I loved about that character, now she is just meh@@chiefbadmon
I was a fan of Rebels, Ezra's overall story in particular. But I admit the show had some problems. The biggest problem Is that Dave Filoni won't let anyone die. There's no consequences. Ahsoka lives. Maul lives. Fennec lives. Riva lives. The Grand Inquisitor lives. Sabine lives. Boba Fett lives. Cobb Vance lives. The big wookie shot 45 times is fine. Then, in the off-chance someone actually dies, Dave made the World Between Wotlds time travel device that can undo that as well.
This is a trope common to children's programmes.
Maul and the Grand Inquisitor died in Rebels but I see your point.
How long are we betting on it being before Kanan comes back from the dead?
Ahsoka should have stayed dead in Rebels (Clone Wars? I forget) when Vader killed her. That was a truly fitting end and a tragedy of Shakespearean proportions. That - besides the stupid gadgets- marked Filoni out as a hack long before this.
Heck seeing all those characters living after a lightsaber wound makes me think that Han Solo is alive somewhere 🤣
@@francoisregis2155 - Han was Stabbed and Fell into a Miles Deep Pit. Then got up, Shock the Dust off, said Ouch, then got to an Escape Pod ad Fled.
Robothead is right when he talked about Star Wars having a "small cartoon audience". That's really all Star Wars has left... the little true believers who will accept anything with a Star Wars label on it.
As much as I've written about SW these last few years, Robothead summed it all up in 3 words. Small Cartoon Audience. It's like they all live in a cinematic and literary vacuum. They don't see how other above avg or great stories inspired the creation of other great stories. While this one is largely uninspired outside of the ideas Filoni pasted from Lucas. Or the "young Kirk" scene he pasted from Star Trek 09 with Sabine on the freeway.
And by small its the people who stayed for rebels, because I skipped that when I was 14
Rebels is better than every single Disney live action show, Mando season 1 included.
The sad part is: in order for someone to enjoy Disney Star Wars, they can't care about Star Wars.
The cartoons are peak Star Wars imo even surpassing the OT. Hear me out on this the OT was great but the clone wars and rebels since they have all that time they are able to flesh out their characters and make them amazing. for example Maul was a mid villain at best in TPM but because of both clone wars and rebels he is one of the most beloved characters oat and Filoni is a good writer.. for the cartoons he certainly cannot direct a live action show that’s for sure. My favorite Star Wars characters oat are Anakin/Vader Captain Rex Ahsoka and Maul and Vader is for the ot but Anakin and maul would be mid tier for me and Ahsoka and rex wouldn’t even be on there if it weren’t for those shows so in conclusion Disney has decimated Star Wars except for the cartoons the cartoons are the only thing that Disney Star Wars has left to offer and I’m afraid starting with Ahsoka (a show that never should’ve been live action btw) Disney is gonna ruin that dude of Star Wars as well
Prequels may be have some stupid lore retcons and stale acting, but god damn, at least George Lucas had a vision and wanted to expand upon the universe he had created. And like you said, he surrounded himself with people who knew what they were doing and was open to some criticism
Dave filoni isn't open to criticism because he is narcissistic arrogant entitled and selfish
Also, they felt like star wars.
@@angelphoenix7784 Yeah, because the creators knew how to make Star Wars movies and did it because it was their passion and they enjoyed it, not for the sole purpose of money
Basically it boils down to people being flabbergasted that the people Lucas hired to help him make the prequels were largely in sync with him creatively (you know, as you might expect) and didn't constantly trash talk him while being filmed for behind-the-scenes footage. There's no real evidence that Lucas was surrounded by "yes men" to a greater extent than is usually the case.
There's this whole mythology about how Lucas was constantly being challenged and put in his place by others during the making of the original trilogy, but if you do a little actual research you find very little evidence of that either, besides some claims made by disgruntled ex-producer Gary Kurtz who was fired halfway through Empire for incompetence and spent the next several decades constructing a self-aggrandizing narrative which recast himself as the hero of Star Wars.
Then why did you manbabies endlessly attack George Lucas over them? You cannot retcon away your words and actions. Just endless whining about everything.
I just don't think Asoka herself works in live action, she looks good in animation but really weird in reality. Like when Homer jumped into the real world
I knew the second Sabine got stabbed in the gut and survived casually, I knew Robot Head was gonna make a video about this show 😂
You are obviously more force sensitive than sabine is...JEDI 👏🤣👍
I loved Clone Wars, as It being that closed off middle point part of a prequel. Having It all spread into the Disney universe makes me feel like my nostalgia is being ripped apart for money.
"Tis but a scratch" Star Wars has become an actual parody and they don't even realize it.
the problem is that animation and live action just require vastly different styles of directing. As you mentioned real actors can be more subtile in their acting and expression and animation ist often times more over the top, but that what makes both of them as great as they are. The problem arises when you get someone to direct a live action movie the same way he would do an animation. That's part of the reason why live action movies for animes flop so often, you just can't show the things the fans learned to love in an animation through real actors
The one huge bantha in the room question is why is Ahsoka training Sabine in the ways of the force instead of Jacen? Sabine is not force sensitive but Jacen is the son of an actual Jedi who has that special connection the force. Can someone make this make sense to me? Even the droid, Huyang, is saying it's a waste of time in so many words.
Because in Disney Star Wars the force is generated by the X chromosomes and stored in the ovaries.
Two words: Girl Power
To be fair, Huyang is a droid. He cannot sense whether she has force potential or not. Obi Wan was the weakest of the young jedi during his time but he became one of the most talented jedi because he worked hard.
Can't wait to hear what Robothead has to say after episode 3 where Ahsoka basically told her anyone can be force sensitive if they just practice lol. Everything is so watered down and meaningless anymore. Force for all, non lethal lightsabers, surviving clearly fatal injuries. It's ridiculous.
Simple: The Force is Female
"can you die from that?..." -Robot Head "not any more..." - Disney
Why did they have to give Sabine the classic "I'm too smug and manly to care" attitude that's used in male character tropes? She wasn't like this in Rebels.
Because of the rise of.. the Message
What do you mean? She was always like that
@@tufab3494 Rebels Sabine was a layered character. Although she was a bit reckless she was loyal to her crew and cared about them. She had her past mistakes and trauma. Not to mention her character arc in the series. This? This is bland.
@@a.s.raiyan2003-4 isn't it clear that something went on between the Ghost Crew after the Battle of Lothal? We don't know why Sabine and Ahsoka are mad at each other, so we can't just complain of her actitude towards it... When we get to know the past between both, we'll be able to trully compare ger way of dealing with Ahsoka. And her interaction with Hera was exactly how it used to happen in the series. Sabine is super well acted imo. Want it or not this show will eventually grow on you. Filoni has really set his stakes high on this one
Offscreen character development is a cardinal sin, especially with established characters that the audience is meant to be invested in and care about. Period.
Whilst me and a lot of other people love Rebels dearly and it’s a huge part of our love for Star Wars, but I do still think that the Ahsoka show hasn’t really done a good job of introducing these characters to people who are unaware of these characters and how their story started. The show needed to give an explanation even a brief one that catches up people who haven’t watched the animated shows. Whilst I love this show and these characters I do acknowledge that it is a struggle for people who don’t know or have a connection with these characters
Episode 3 was truly dreadful. That is all
@@SimonLeicester what happened in that episode like actually
Cant wait to see them do the goofy propeller fly in live action with inquisitor sabers. Ill never understand why people loved the cartoons but its funny to see them try to transfer everything to live action
The animated shows were okay for the most part. Honestly I don't think they'll have the helicopter saber effect happen. The closest they ever got to that outside of Rebels was Jedi Fallen Order, when one or two of the Inquisitors did a brief propeller attack that moved laterally during boss fights.
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Ahsoka wasn't Filoni's idea, she was George Lucas's idea. Who wanted Anakin to have an apprentice to show how he matures from Episode 2 to 3 and wanted to create a new Star Wars character to appeal to girls, with his two young daughters at the time as his inspiration. Lucas named her after the ancient Indian emperor Ashoka.
Then Filoni takes over and turns her into his waifu power-love pillow and now has her pretty much replacing Luke Skywalker in the OT saga
Screw You, Lucas & Filoni!
Ok but Filoni’s done all the actual work with her
My favourite part is they turned her into a stoic, no nonsense, hard as nails, male and sidelined her for a girlboss. Disney has one horse to race don't they?
Disney has half a horse, and you can guess which half
Stoic that’s one good way to summarize it, good comment
But for me the show seems like they are trying to make a Witcher more then a Jedi ; what’s that about ,hmm so far I don’t like the show … I guess maybe they lost me after mando season 2
Every show made since GoT (still haven't watched it) has been a wannabe, a Frankensteins monster of whatever shows have been pop lately. Thats why everything feels like a walking dead/GoT/insert latest trendy show all in one. There is no creativity in Hollywoo.@@Dragon-pv5oj
I look forward to Robot head videos more than the episodes of the show!
Thanks!
@@RobotHead You are great mate!
Those cartoons are still 10x better than the live action shows. What’s strange is that despite the characters in Ahsoka being created from Filoni, they feel one-dimensional in the live action shows but feel like actual people in the cartoons, especially Ahsoka, good lord she is an entirely different person in the live action show.
It's been 25 years since the clone wars and Ahsoka as a teenager. She is going to be different
@@moabman6803 I didn’t say she wouldn’t be different. The problem is that she acts like a Jedi despite denouncing herself as a Jedi. She has not been formally trained since the Clone Wars yet for some reason the way she acts and speaks is significantly different to Rebels.
Sure, she could have changed during the five year gap between Rebels and Ahsoka. However, character development during a time skip is just lazy writing.
@@moabman6803 Just look at her portrayal in Rebels. She's still herself. Older, wiser, but still the Ahsoka we know. In this new show, it's like the one piece of advice they gave her was, "Ahsoka is depressed," and she bases her performance in every scene on that one singular idea.
@@ZenMonkeyGod If you watch the most recent episode she is more like her younger self.
See, I get the point that "what works in animation doesn't automatically work in live action," but disparaging Filoni's earlier work simply for being a cartoon is something I have issue with.
It's far more accurate to disparage those works for their very serious flaws. Both have bland space battles, both resort to formulaic episodic plots at times, and both have episodes or even entire seasons that can be skipped without issue. Seriously, compare the action in Clone Wars to THE Clone Wars and there's no contest.
So yes, bash Filoni all you want, he deserves it, but simply saying "he's bad because he does cartoons," is an oversimplification.
I think the point is something The Critical Drinker & co mentioned yesterday: there's a big difference between a show meant for a young audience, where you have lots of time and freedom to explore stuff and try arcs, and, on the other hand, a 6 ep live show where you have to deliver from day 1, with a much smaller cast and scale.
One of this show's problems is that it relies so much on external knowledge (Rebels, basically), and many people haven't watched that. So we don't know why Thrawn is so important, we don't know why Ashoka is important, we don't know why Ezra is important, etc.
So far they've found another mcguffin map that makes no sense, and they've had a couple fights. And we've learned that anyone can use the Force now, and that Ashoka can teleport (except when it would actually be useful). I don't think Filoni is gonna be able to bring it home by the time the season ends; it's gonna feel like the end of an arc in CW, rather than the end of a season.
Not just that. He fakes the comparison between the speed ups. The speed of the animated sequence is barely sped up while the live-action is seemingly doubled. I made a quick comparison with the original scenes. This really forces his insecure narrative about cartoons. Also the animated choreography is motion capture so live-action actors were doing the action too.
The 2D Clone Wars show was so much better
It's not that it's a cartoon. It's that it's a CGI "cartoon" with an annoying art style and simplistic dialog --- that makes it even less watchable than simplistic dialog cartoons from the 80s, because at least these have a super high 80s charm.
@@gujono.eiriksson8553so you are just being nostalgic and wanting everything to feel like the 80s
The great irony is that the animated characters in Rebels have greater depth of humanity than any of the real life acting shown in Ahsoka. Truly sad.
Give it a break. It's only the first few episodes. I'm sure by season 20, they will have much depth and no male good guys.
literally my character had more personality in the 7 mins he was on-screen before being shot to death.
Rebels was great❤ probably on par with clone wars
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@putt7515 except for the many, many times it was worse than Clone Wars. Also, Rebels did Thrawn dirty, so even if it was as good as Clone Wars in its other aspects, which it isn’t, it still would be worse.
You know looking at that scene with Sabine, I only realized (because no one else show the scenes with the fighters better) that's the E-Wing from the old EU.
Why did Ahsoka have to be that fighters first onscreen appearance? And as a police vehicle too.
It deserves better.
I am SO GLAD someone addressed the awkward arm cross :/ People on Twitter were arguing that's her "favorite pose" ᵇᵘᵗ I can recall her putting her hands on her hips the same if not more
It reminds me of promotional material for almost every network TV drama, where the cast stand at a 3/4 angle, arms crossed, and looking at you from the corner or their eyes
I was like why does she keep doing that? She never done it before
Characters in The Clone Wars usually stand with arms crossed because it's easier to animate.
@@Сайтамен Ik this ᵇᵘᵗ the Ahsoka hand on hip is OG go watch TCW I promise you
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What's particularly egregious about the light sabre thing, even more than the fact that it's the fourth time in recent Star Wars media for that specific, basically identical move to be performed, is that it was pretty widely panned when it happened in Obi Wan by viewers, reviewers, critics etc and yet Dave Filoni felt it necessary to place within this new series. Either he is so out of touch that he didn't realise people hated it happening the first time or that he despises the fans so much that he is making it happen again just to piss them off. My money is on the latter, but both are quite seriously bad for the supposed saviour of Star Wars and for a show runner in general.
Such a shame that it's turned out this way, as Rebels has some genuinely great characters and some great moments that are borne of their actions. Even among the annoying amount of filler episodes and the consistent ineptitude of the empire (seriously, why do the bad guys have to be so incompetent? If the enemy are so repeatedly incapable, then the story has no stakes), there are brilliant relationships and character arcs that you can actually be moved by and learn a moral lesson from. Similar to the prequels, the execution wasn't perfect, but the fundamental skeleton of a good story was there.
Most of Disney live-action, however, fails both at the execution and the vision. There is no good story hidden within the sum of the product, just meaninglessness and a total waste of time. Star Wars is truly dead and Disney killed it. R.I.P.
Sucks man.
Amen, brother/sister
Filoni is an hypocrite a two face kissing KK’s ass
He did the lightsaber think to piss off fans he doesn’t care about the fans.
As for the savior of Star Wars my bet was more on Jon Favereau but with mando season 3 im not too sure anymore.
But in all seeing this reminds me that Star Wars is dead.
Thanks Shitney
Yep
These replies make me realise my comment ended on quite a depressing note...that was not my intention.
Let's remember that we'll always have the light that is the original trilogy and, if you don't hate them, the prequels. Blockbuster movies that also manage to tell a meaningful story, that provide figures to look up to, and lessons to live by.
Something I also thought about is this: bad content like modern Star Wars is tragic but it should inspire us to tell our own stories, to make something special like George endeavoured to do all those years ago. Let's keep hope alive and strive to be better than this nonsense.
I hate how movies/shows portray people going very fast on a bike with near-zero face protection like it's the most casual thing ever. She must be going 120 mph in that scene, but her hair is lightly wafting in the wind, and she's calmly chatting with the pilot while wearing a half helmet. What even? I'm wearing a full helmet that is specifically designed to keep noise out, and I can barely hear my own thoughts when I'm on the highway. Meanwhile, anything not strapped down tight is either whipping around or trying its best to detach and enter orbit. And don't even get me started on her not wearing some kind of mouth guard. Lothal must not have any flying insects, because I swear, those fuckers aim straight for the mouth when they spot a rider.
The arm crossing thing is the result of not having "blocking" or "business" for the actors.
Partly from bad directing and partly from shooting on green screen/the volume.
Actors need to know where they need to stand and move for blocking the scene. And they also need to know their "business" which is the stuff the character is doing while they are having their conversation. That's why a lot of actors like to eat during a scene, or be looking thru a fridge to grab a drink. People generally don't just stand around and converse... they communicate while they are doing something else... preparing dinner, folding laundry, fixing something on their car, etc.
Actors like to have business in a scene so they can immerse themselves in the world/scene, and avoid awkwardly standing around or sauntering aimlessly.
There's also the problem in that 90% of the scenes are exposition. The characters don't have any particular dramatic intent aside from talking to each other about people who aren't onscreen. It's almost as if the writers don't know what they're doing and haven't really thought through any of it out such that anyone on set could have also figured out the little bits of business they could be doing.
In Rebels and TCW they always did stuff while they talked, you’re right
But that makes it harder to direct cause it requires continuity which they somehow still screwed up in blocking when Ahsoka has arms folded in mid shot and hands are by her side in wide shot
@@GreenLightMe ya. But I think they usually have someone specifically assigned to continuity for big productions. Keeping track of continuity of props, makeup, costumes, etc.
What if this ends with Ahsoka meeting a young girl and unlocking her hidden secret powers, like in Dragonball Z. Then she asks, "what is your name?" "Ray Palpatine," the girl replies. Then Ahsoka looks on at the force ghost of Anakin who smiles upon her, and she says, "I've got a much better name for you..." Then Ray gets amnesia or something. I could see them pulling this.
It's 6 years before Rey was born.
And then she goes back into the background during the First Order/Resistance conflict and then comes back to say some words after all the conflict is done and Rey is working.
@@motherplayer Oh! And the force ghost of Anakin should be like, "I should stay here with this girl because she is more important than my son or my troubled nephew." But that's before the amnesia.
Oh god
Ahahhahahah didn’t age well … after they casually dropped the best piece of Star Wars since rots
Star Wars Rebels and Bad Batch had the same pacing and directing problems. Ahsoka having the same issues doesn't surprise me. Filoni is not a good director.
It's much worse in Ahsoka because at least in animation they tend to not stretch the scenes to save money on animation, but here he just doesn't cut any of the footage filmed.
I'm not much of a Star wars fan, but I still say the worst decision was Darth Maul surviving being cut in literal half and falling down that abyss thing
That actually ended up being awesome, wdym? Maul’s arc with Obi-Wan was one of the best things Filoni ever did. What’s ironic is Filoni killed Maul using a single lightsaber attack in Rebels. Now he’s forgotten about it.
I also hated it, but at least he had a good story after that. But yeah, that was beyond stupid... They should've just made the same story but with savage and no maul.
I get that he got revived because he felt like a wasted character, everyone thought he looked so cool on episode 1 and he didn't even had 10 min on screen. So people wanted more, but it was stupid nonetheless.
Maul surviving was great. He was so angry and high on the dark side that he lived off pure crazy rage. Reva didn't sell it though.
Well did they revive him before or after Episode 3 came out? If before then okay fine but after they're just copy and pasting Anakin
@connorrobinson9548 Maul was never revived. He survived off of the dark side of the force. He was so angry at the jedi he lived off of crazy rage, especially toward Kenobi. Maul ends up being a very interesting and evil villain. A lot of people took issue with him living through being cut in half until they watched about 20 minutes in.
I'm always amazed how easy it is for you to show all the mediocrity in these shows while others will only see something decent/acceptable at worst. I think you're absolutely brilliant and a much needed voice.
If you think we need more people honestly shitting on Star Wars then you are on the wrong side of TH-cam. I'm not saying I don't like the content, I do, but there are literally hundreds of channels doing the exact same thing.
@@20TonChop ye tbf there's more channels hating it than liking it. Don't know why this guy thinks robot head is the only one
@@20TonChop We don't need more people shitting on Star Wars, we only need people like him. The reason he's a much needed voice is because he understands filmmaking and is able to show effortlessly how Disney SW is actually much worse than people think.
@@vengeance6833 I never said he was the only one, you obviously missed my point. What I think is that his SW criticism is the one people need to hear because he's the best at it.
@@Maggbba I agree. This channel nails it, so other channels are either redundant or subpar when compared.
The more is watch the more I realise that Star Wars peaked during the OG trilogy. The prequels, animated shows and definitely not the one's made under Disney.
The original trilogy was great, they are classic space opera, very rewatchable. The prequels are good but tedious and have limited rewatchability due to multiple glaring issues. However, they were designed and directed with earnestness and love by Lucas, you can sense that. Everything after that, save for maybe a few scenes in Mando and Rogue 1, is merely a cash grab by Bob Iger, who doesn't give one flying fuck about story or honoring a cinematic legacy of any kind, much less Star Wars.
@@TheBoondoggler Couldn't have said it better my dude
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I like to say that the Prequels can be saved. With good editing, Jar Jar can be cut way back in TPM, which really helps the pacing of that film, because Jar Jar only seems to interrupt the flow of the film most of the time. The romance in AOTC can be made a lot better, and the cringe dialogue can be removed (I actually made a video on my other channel, Reel Busy Editing, that shows how to re-cut the romance in AOTC). And Revenge of the Sith can become more focused when you remove or cut way down on a couple of the lightsaber fights, among other things. But I do agree that George made those movies with love. He just needed help on the writing and editing side of things.
honestly, the only reason why Star Wars was a really big hit was because there was no internet in the 70's
@@G360LIVE Yep George's poor editing and clunky dialogue needed much more improvement.
I've been waiting for your thoughts on this one! Glad to see someone openly calling out the girl boss path that the show has taken; yes Ahsoka is a girl, and she is a great character, but why do we need every other character of any significance or authority to be female? Ray Stevenson's character is great (he was an excellent actor), but he has a female boss and will likely be killed (or somehow made to be irrelevant) and replaced by his female apprentice anyway. I particularly loved the crossed arms sequence!
Yes, every manbaby has to whine about the existence of women.
7:47 I just find it weird... that Thrawn would build an entire temple complex... set up a combination lock in it... bury the map macguffin inside a pillar of volcanic ash?... just so's you have to get through all that to find him...
I mean... when did he disappear? Or did he just co-opt an already EXISTING ancient temple rube-golberg complex and put his map in it... and redecorate the walls... to match his map motif...
I remember stabbing is not common in Star Wars. Most of them just cut off.
I laughed out loud when Sabine was stabbed; here we go again!
Also, Disney ruined that pathetic attempt at a dramatic cliffhanger by airing the two first episodes on the same day, back to back. LOL
Imagine The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi premiering the same day....
I can't believe they've done it four times in a year ffs
If I miss anyone please help me out here. But basically, an amateur stormtrooper, 2 inquisitors who mind you are only midly force-sensitive, and a padawn have all been struck with lightsabers, some of them were even impaled, in Disney Star Wars but all have survived. Qui Gon Jinn, who was a master lightsaber duelist trained by freaking Count Dooku, was killed when he was struck by one just once. I miss when lightsaber duels meant something.
That thing you said about empire. George actually did reshoots on empire after he saw Irvin kirshners cut and it was so bad it made Marcia lucas cry and George was furious. So he probably had a lot to do with that production as well. Not just writing.
Be quiet, it doesn't support the narrative that Empire was only good because George Lucas didn't direct .
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George tried to re-edit Irvin's cut because he didn't like how slow the movie was, but George couldn't find a way to re-edit it to make it "faster, more intense", so he had to leave it alone. That's what infuriated him. Also, George hated the, "I know," line from Han when Leia said, "I love you." George wanted Han to say, "I love you too." George argued with Irvin about that line, so Irvin said to put the two takes (both lines were filmed) in front of a test audience and get their feedback. The test audience raved about Han saying, "I know", so George agreed to leave it alone.
So no, George didn't re-shoot and alter Irvin's cut, and if Marcia was crying, it's because Irvin made a great film. Everything George wanted to change didn't get changed. It was proven that Irvin's way was the better way. And if you need any evidence of that, then just look at how Empire is always called the greatest Star Wars film while A New Hope and Return of the Jedi get criticized in places. If George had anything to do with Empire, it would've turned out more like the other two films that he directed himself (the director of Return was just a puppet director; George was on the set doing the directing on that movie).
@@G360LIVE yeah but I still think that George should get more credit for empire because it’s still his story and the only reason he didn’t direct it because he didn’t want the stress of what he went through on a new hope.
@@G360LIVE well I did some digging and I was correct. On screen rants list of 15 things you didn’t know about the empire strikes back they list it at number 7 that when George saw the rough cut of the film he was furious at Irvin kirshner as he staked his entire fortune on the film. He went back and did extensive reshoots and even got a loan from fox. And he even reworked Han and Leias entire love plot.
@@G360LIVE also to the editing point that you made George couldn’t edit it into a coherent film which is why he decided to do the reshoots.
It is sad, it is actually terribly tragic that something that started out as a show made for kids turned into one of the greatest pieces of Television to grace our screens in the past 2 decades of Star Wars media(Clone Wars). Yet the Live action Movies and shows feel like emotionless childish piles of Dribble.
This is the course of animation as an industry. Even if the Clone Wars is leagues better in every way than live action shows like this, one will be discarded immidietly as shitty kids show and the other as a "proffessional industry work" even if it's terrible.
@@cloudshifter Hopefully the Invincible show changes peoples public perception of cartoons.
@@Do_not_at_me_bro It won't unfortunatelly. Shows like invincible have been trying for a decade.
I don't think that's true. Since the 90s, with Batman the animated series, people realized that animated shows can be mature. Just look at the Simpsons, King of The Hill, American Dad, Futurama, Family Guy, etc
Remember when clones and even obi wan psychically punch or kick a droid they scream in pain because they just punched metal 😅
To be honest, I only want more Cassian Andor! It was so incredibly relatable and well written.
Andor was neither relatable or well written. I watched all of it and was very disappointed, and that was it for Star Wars for me.
@@vestavindSW never was meant to be relatable on a cultural level and it did just that in my opinion with Andor, it was made from a human perspective. The original trilogy was about awesome space wizards but space wizards nonetheless; what was relatable in the original trilogy was the relationship between father and son, not really about who or what they were.
@@vestavindit was logical for the most part (star wars wise) and the story was plausible and pretty well written so i would say it was a good first season
@@whilhelmtell6667 debatable I related hard to Anakin in Episode 3
Andor and Rogue One are the only things Disney has done right in nearly 10 years
I agree the lightsaber needs to be addressed, why its so powerful before, and now its treated like a real sword now. And they also should have created a short primer on the events from the Rebels cartoon, so that the casual "fans" who don't read the books, play the games, or see the toons can try to enjoy the show... because the only "true star wars canon" for them is the one shown only in theaters.
Even the "casual" doesn't care about the films nowadays.
Anything they know about Star Wars us hearsay and a bit of misinformation.
The actual "casuals" can't tell you the difference from Star Wars and Star Trek.
"Treated like a real sword now"? Huh? A real sword thrust through the torso would be LETHAL. There's no real sword in existence that isn't lethal if it passes right through someone's torso.
@@KeldorDAntrell Your right a real sword is lethal, but there are cases that people survive. There are real world instances that a few lucky individuals being impaled by sharp and blunted objects in the torso, head, and even the heart is not the end, unless they get the proper medical intervention. The likelihood of someone dying goes down a bit, and if the stars align, that person can recover from a devastating wound with medical SCIENCE, and live to see another day!
ahsoka doesn't even act like ahsoka, she just stands there with her arm crossed and her eyelids lowered all the time.
The "It's a trap!" and "You're gonna be oka-ay!" inserts had me creased! 🤣
Haven't watched a single minute of Star Wars since The Last Jedi, but I have watched a whole lot of Robot Head.
You didn’t miss anything! 😂
I was looking forward to your take on Ashoka and glad to see you did not disappoint.
Good luck on sticking it through for the rest of the show, as always it's only downhill from here.
I yhink the show is great
Here we go. Why watch a show that you know is gonna suck, when you can have some other dude do it for you.
And complain about how the actresses cross their arms... Genial, keep falling for others' opinions... At the end of the day there are 2 types of person in the world...
No one's seriously complaining about crossed arms. That was obviously a gag. The most common complaints are the expressionless, bland, and plodding manner in which the characters behave. Given that the actresses are capable, it's got to be the direction they're getting.
This show sucks. and you know it. @@tufab3494
Cause you need a contrast, you need to watch something bad to differentiate the bad with the good and why specifically that is. Sometimes you can see something you though it was gonna be bad and find something you really like or an underrated good work.
Unfortunatelly, Ashoka is not a good work, but who would have guessed?
@@tufab3494don’t ignore the genuine well founded complaints just because they don’t fit your argument
Just a reminder that in Timothy Zahns Thrawn trilogy he just returned from the Unknown Regions with 6 Stardestroyers under his command and reached out to other remaining Imperial forces because he could use his rank and offer results like winning with 1 Stardestroyer against a New Republic task force of 4 assault frigates and "3 wings of starfighters" and won.
No MacGuffin map leading to him no "hes just waiting for us" no, Thrawn was taking the lead and others would follow.
Those books were so good!!
This time Thrawn isn’t in the unknown regions he’s in another galaxy.
@@oXRaptorzXo Thrawn has spent the last decade probably playing chess with Ezra. When the imperial remnants find him in the final episode, he'll probably be like "I'm retired now, I don't care for your petty galactic war"
@@TraceguyRunethats a wise choice if You are a Disney character 😂
Gets stabbed by a lightsaber.
*'tis but a scratch.*
2:15 Small correction but there definitely are animations out there that have characters with some pretty highly sophisticated and realistic movements and expressions as well as voice acting. However, even then in animation having that degree of realism in your characters is still less dependent on having a good director to guide people and more on having really dedicated and talented animators that are willing and able to put in the often excruciating work necessary to make that possible.
The thing is, animators are experts at making drawings move, not at directing (which is an expertise in conveying communication through acting i.e. voice, movement, expression, gesture, posture etc. and a host of other means of communicating to the viewing audience e.g. proxemics (the distance of the camera from the subject), the angle of the camera, et al.). The best animation is created by a synthesis of the expertise of the director with that of the animator/s i.e. the director carefully communicates exactly how the animated character emotes, moves, what body language they convey with posture, etc. (not forgetting the work of the voice actor, of course).
I think Robot Head understands that animation at its best can be just as good as live action (just as live action can be far worse than it ought to be) and was just making a broad point.
You remember when they killed Han off way back when. They showed that lightsaber go right thru him. And the reason they showed a lightsaber go thru his chest was so the whole audience knew he was dead dead. Not coming back dead. That seemed to be the one and only time they knew getting stabbed in the chest with a lazer sword was lethal
Han and Qui Gon Jin. Both were impaled the same way and the consequences were lasting. I honestly think Darth Maul’s impaling of Qui Gon Jin was intended to allow him to die slowly and painfully.
Disney turning around and having no less than three characters easily survive these impalings is unbelievably insulting and lazy. Reva didn’t even need medical attention to survive hers. She went on an intergalactic trip right after followed by a long walk on Tattooine. Sabine’s impaling was so unnecessary. The baddie could have just as easily gotten away with no harm done to Sabine and the consequences would have been the same.
You remember Han falling of that bridge after being stabbed? So you don't actually know what killed him. The stab or the fall.
@@ryanlemmers5300- You don't know if Sabine's impaling was unnecessary, as the show is not over yet.
@@dutchbosoxfan8919 I hope you’re right. This series hasn’t displayed the best creative writing so far. Basically goodies and baddies racing to the same destination. I’m hoping there’s an interesting plot twist at some point.
Dave Feloni sounds like he commit's some very specific Felonys.
Animation and Live Action are two *very* different fields when it comes to filmmaking. So having a director whose only made animated works work on a Live Action work with very little practice isn’t a good idea. It’s like going from Golf to Disc Golf. The two sports have the same goal, to get the lowest score, but they do it completely differently, and the same is for filmmaking.
Writing also has to be different, as the story also has to be realistic and possible to portray with live people and CGI, not animated models. Also, when writing stories in the same universe as another story, consistency is the *most* important thing to do and get right. So having a character act so strange from how we knew them previously isn’t a good way to write.
Also, if your budget is near limitless, then your scenes should be at least comparable to similar scenes from earlier in the series.
I think the single biggest problem that’s really coming through in Ahsoka is that Kathleen Kennedy and her sycophants are overtly focusing on discriminating against and excluding men because they hate them. The result is a show that feels awkward because of all the girl bosses that are supportive of each other all the time in a universe in which there are no consequences, no high stakes, no good dialogue, no good action scenes.
Yes, Kathleen Kennedy hates men and is discriminating against them, and she has sycophants.
Thank goodness there is a woman at the top to blame for all your grievances.
This is a bad take. Their mission is to find thrawn and ezra. Kanan died. I really don't get these girl boss comments here. Ahsoka and sabine have been irritated by each other since the first episode. This isn't a female characters issue, it's just an issue with writers who don't get star wars.
I started doing this thing when watching shows like ahsoka, where I'd ask myself "but why?" Sabine wants to be trained like a jedi, but why? Shes a mandalorian... Those are jedi killers. She needed to be trained with the darksaber because the fate of mandalore rested on her shoulders in Rebels, but here? And dont even get me started on the "the force resides in all living things so she can be a jedi" because we're gonna be here all day if we discuss that dumpster fire of an idea the show brought up in Ep.3.
Thank You for watching that dumpster fire, so I don’t have to!! Appreciate your work and can’t wait for your next video!
Cheers!
Not all heros wear capes
With Disney logic, if you fell into the sun, all your wounds would self cauterize and you just need a bed to wake up in.
"Cough cough, Anakin, cough cough, Mustafar"
14:24 the map to Treasure Planet. They’re not even trying. lol
I like that last question, "Can you die from that?" Apparently only if they don't need you to continue the story. 😂
Obviously the white male Captain from the first episode survived too right? Right guys? Oh, no he's dead? Oh I see, lightsabers are only effective against white male characters but if you're a minority or female (preferably both) then you can have your spine slashed open with a lightsaber, get stabbed through the guts (twice by the same person) or otherwise survive with less visible scarring than an appendectomy....Got it 👎 fck Disney star wars
In a better show, Shin would have used a strong Force push to throw Sabine against the tower wall to knock her out. She could recover from a concussion in the next episode. But, whatever.
Yeah idk, it shouldn't require insane creative skills to come up with an actually recoverable way to incapacitate Sabine in this situation.
Still too hard for the best writers Disney Star Wars has to offer though it seems.
Or just simply touch her with a lightsaber to disable her like Dooku disabled Obi-Wan in episode 2.
In a better show Shin would have used dark side powers. So many to choose from, stun, choke, plague.
Stabbing straight through someone with a lightsaber is so dumb. All you would have to do is angle your wrist and it would cut them in half.
As many people may start pointing out, there are quotes out there from George Lucas basically saying that almost anyone can use the Force to some extent. I think Ahsoka's comments about that fits what he said. But talent is a factor, and also characters like Anakin and Luke are especially powerful "prodigies" I think.
How did he create such a good character in the animated series, only to make that same character so boring in a live action series. The actress has obviously been directed to portray Ahsoka the way she is, and its nothing like the Ahsoka we love from the animated series.
I guess he had help.
Yeah, watching any animated Ahsoka compilation after that I'm like "Wtf dude ?".
Like, i get that time passes and people change, but your character is liked for a reason ; you can't just make it unrecognisable and dull af and still expect fans to like it the same because it bears the same name.
@@DeadlySins-op1gl this is why I'm not sure Filoni has full creative control over these characters, because he's demonstrated that he can make lovable characters in the cartoons, I don't understand how they could be so different if he was the one making the decisions still
In Navy recruit training, crossing your arms was disrespectful and meant you were bucking for leadership. 😢