Yeah, funny when the initial trailer hinted at how bad that would be, but thank Common Sense that they listened to feedback and did a U-turn on the CGI being MUCH more faithful, and produced a good sequel. Wish we got more of that, these days.
@@thecircleoft.e.d2121Jim Carrey is taking full ownership of that franchise like Ryan Reynolds with Deadpool. That goes a long way in terms of continuity and quality assurance.
Not even 10 years ago, if you told me a Sonic the Hedgehog product was blowing a Disney product clear out of the water, I'd have called you insane. We really are living in the bad timeline, aren't we? The one where the guy went back in time to fix something, and that timeline is now fine, but we're in the unchanged one where it was never fixed and we're just left over in limbo.
"A lion that doesn't concern itself with the opinions of sheep doesn't sell many movie tickets. The sheep outnumber the lions ten thousand to one." - John Tywin Landister.
Chris’s rants are hilarious. I remember last year when he was trashing the little mermaid, it devolved into a rant raging about the length of movies, how he doesn’t want to spend 3 hours at a theater, that movies need to be 90 minutes, and how he couldn’t understand why Disney made a 2 hour movie for kids with small attention spans.
Walt Disney had defined that films not run longer than 80 minutes because kids at the time would loose attention after that length of time. Now they run 2 hours or more and tack on 20 minutes of ads so that kids get restless an hour before the end of the film.
@@writerpatrick Thanks for reminding me that I need to show up at the theater ten minutes late so I'm not staring at blank screens and ads when a movie "starts"
The lion king was Simba's story; Mufasa, Scar, and everyone else were side characters. No one asked for a prequel story, let alone a live action one. 🎉
Money grab! And when they've remade all their old movies, they'll wait 5 years and remake them all again. And you will fall for it. Cuz that's how you roll.
@@emilynolan187 CGI mockery of Live Action; it may be rendered in 3D but it's as flat as a rough sketch rendition of a photocopy of a old Polaroid picture... utterly soulless.
If you would like a palette cleanser from this atrocity of a film, one of the original animators and artists from films like the original Lion King and Brother Bear is on youtube and has tons of art videos and animation process videos. All of them show in great details how animators like him went to great lengths to make animal characters readable as analogous to human emotion. Incredible work. His name is Aaron Blaise and he is a master at his work.
He has an ep or two of "Animators react" with the Corridor Crew as well. Dude is a pro. Iger is an idiot for cutting them when they should have been heavily funded and cut loose to do more mature animation to compete with japanese anime. There is an alternate timeline where Iger is based instead of woke and we have nice things.
If your interested in his work, look up Creature Art Teacher sometime; he has valuable lessons on drawing various animals, as well as how to animate them.
Disney should just re-release the originals in the theater. It would serve the nostalgia and younger audience purpose and turn more of a profit then these crappy "live action" wastes of space.
I feel like it undermines the exposition of the O.G. since Mufasa makes it seem like this is a multi-generation familial thing when describing the circle of life / kingdom to Simba. Turns out he was just pulling it out of his ass lol
Nothing is sacred anymore. Everything has to be explored through prequels and spin-offs etc. Simply because there's money to be made. This generation of movies will never be remembered - I can't think of any classics from the last 10 years or so.
Ikr. This is why I stick with older movies and shows on physical media so the legacies of the originals and classics don’t become tarnished by liberal filth
Godzilla Minus One Director: I'm going to be in the room with the animators every step of the way. Mufasa Director: "Call me when you're done animating this movie."
I've never seen The Lion King as I presumed Elton John did all the music i.e. sang the songs. I found The Circle of Life annoying af, but maybe that was due to it forever being played. The Jungle Book (60s animated version) had all the greatest songs by a country mile imho.
@@boydudereviews The only ones ones I can think of that were actually good, or at least in my opinion, beauty and the beast, Aladdin, The Little mermaid and Maleficent.
Friend went with their kids. The kids were bored in under 30min. The older one kept asking when it will be over. But they sat through it because they already paid for it. They weren't happy but it sure entertained my lunchbreak hearing about it XD.
To be fair it works when writing papers and really saves time, but you don't just copy and paste, you have to go in and edit it / change it up to make it yours. Or else it reads like a wiki page or in the case of Hollywood plays out like Mufasa lol
I saw a poster for Mufasa where two of the lions are looking at the viewer and smiling, it looked terrifying, like they were poorly-taxidermied animals haha
That's what I thought! Kids are barely watching movies as it is because their parents are not interested in the movies. This one is two hours long and holds no appeal for adults. Spending a lot of money on a trip to the movies so that both kids and parents can spend the whole time on their phones is a waste.
@@MaryRohwer I'm an adult and have an interest in Mufasa. I don't mind not watching stuff blow up. I wanted to see it because of the realistic animal CGI. That's only why I watch the Lion King remake. It'll never replace the original. No remake will.
In a few years time there will be no meaningful distinction between “animated” and “live action”, as every film will be animated (by AI) but will look indistinguishable from live action.
I quit watching LK2 because the villain characters didn't exist in the first one. Yeah, Bye Bye was weird. I like the vibe and melody to the song but if they had chosen better lyrics than something a toddler says it would've been better.
Yeah both that and 1 1/2 are surprisingly good follow-ups out of the direct-to-video era of Disney sequels. That era of Disney at least had heart and effort put into the corporate formula back in the day.
In the cartoons we see eyebrows, which means the animators can give the characters human like facial keys; but in the "live action" (which of course it is not) the characters are flat.
The live action 101 Dalmatians managed to give the dogs some personality but these fully CGI "live action" films have no clue what a personality even is.
The OG blended human facial expressions with animal body language, making them comprehensible to viewers while still being animalistic. The new one did neither, so the characters basically just T-pose all the time.
@@lordofthepizzapie9319 For real. When Simba cried because Mufasa died in the 2019 remake, That's where I knew the film was bad. They couldn't even get that scene right.
The Disney live action remakes of animated properties like the Lion King have taught me that it's possible to trigger the uncanny valley effect using a non-human character. That's *a* kind of impressive, I suppose. (In much the same way as inventing a new & more effective variety of pepper spray would be.)
Aslan was done well as a CGI animal doing human emotions in the Chronicles of Narnia movies but they didn't translate that idea over to these "live action" ones
He really wasn’t, Aslan had all of the same problems. But then they could get away with it because he is a side character who isn’t on screen very much.
Well the difference (and I noticed this with The Jungle Book as well) there are actual people / humans in those movies. I feel that properly draws attention away from those flaws and imperfections in animal CGI. Hence why it doesn't work with TLK and Mufasa. IMO
I would add the main difference is in Naria it was implied to be a magical Lion so you could buy into the idea that something was off about it. Versus the Lion King/Mufasa that implied that it was taking place in the “real world”. One where humans are apparently not a thing but still.
@@anthonyml7 Our family loved it. Watching the previous movies aren't super necessary, but there are a couple things to know, like rings can create a transport portal. Other than that, it follows the Shadow story from the sonic games pretty closely.
This is totally off topic, but my favorite Critical Drinker moment was when he swapped out America Chavez from the Multiverse of Madness with different Latin American countries. Bolivia Chavez…Argentinian Chavez. I just about died.
Usually when people ask 'what was the point of X?' about a movie, I can still understand it from the studio's perspective at least. But this one? Bemusing.
@@fixman88 You didn't see the official teaser trailer? It features Stitch destroying sand castles, of which one of them is the Disney castle. He looks cute, yes, but his color doesn't pop. He looks faded like a worn out stuffed animal. We'll see what other bad changes Disney made to the movie when the longer trailer releases.
I knew the Stitch remake a long time ago as a lot of Twitter Activists got mad that the actress playing Nani wasn’t brown. Despite being a native Hawaiian. And I hated it as a fan of the original.
They're not *trying* to court engagement from existing audiences. They're trying to doctor artificial ones. That's been their shtick for 10 years at this point. Wake up and smell the social engineering.
It was pretty stupid for disney to release this movie close to Kraven and I guess Sonic too. A studio that has destroyed so much good will these past few years by constantly attacking fans, getting involved in politics, lecturing the audience, and lowering the quality of their movies vs a studio that built so much good will, strives to please fans and has gone up in quality vs a studio that also avoids pissing off fans but half asses everything, has no quality control, makes the most baffling movie making decisions, and is so incompetent that they cause internet to unite and dogpile on them.
The canon killed it, like how Scar's betrayal almost killed Mufasa but somehow Mufasa would let Scar anywhere near Simba in the first movie makes no sense at all And Kiara having a brother makes the whole Lion King 2 Simbas Pride storyline irrelevant now Songs were not that good either, Lin Manuel couldve focused on Moana 2 instead which had no good songs at all
The Lion King (the *actual real* 1994 one) is my favorite movie of all time. I didn't see (and have no interest whatsoever in seeing) either the CGI remake or Mufasa.
The fact that you can't tell whether these movies were written by AI or not, is honestly bad enough you know? It's the artistic equivalent to a lady asking a man, "Is it in yet?"
It's kind of beautiful seeing Sonic 3 winning over Mufasa. A franchise that was saved by listening to the fans and embracing the cartoony nature of their characters versus one that still is on this weird realistic CGI animal thing. Just feels right!
If they had traditionally animated this movie in the same style as the original lion king. I would have had more interest in this movie for that alone. And it would have cost Disney less money to make.
@@a_fine_edition2746 The only thing Disney makes 2D anymore are the cheesy cartoons for Disney Junior. I've never seen such horrible art except for my own.
The funny thing is Disney has never been a stranger to releasing shitty forgettable low quality sequels to their most popular IPs. But whoever was running Disney back in the 90s knew what they were and only released them on video just for a mere cash grab. Now, Disney thinks that just because it's live action their shitty forgettable low quality pre/sequels are worthy of a cinema release. It's gonna take more than live action and cgi to save that mess.
The original Lion King was the first movie I ever saw in theater as a child. It is sacred to me. I will never taint that by watching any of this new Disney garbage.
Barry Jenkins is exactly the same case of what Hollywood loves to do, take a up and coming indie filmmaker, throw a ton of money at him, for a name. All he was is the face for the studio that directed this
I swear to you I saw a trailer or promotional clip that had White Lions in it telling Simba? Mufasa? he owns all these lands, yadda, yadda. Disney's dig at Kimba?
You have to remember, when we asked for Sonic 1, to change the design they said "Here you go, dude. Gotta go fast!". And now, this year where we went "Hey, if they have Shadow, he SHOULD have a gun. It's canon", they said "I am, I'm all of me, I am, I am all of me, I ammmm". So yeah, they deserve my money.
Disney heres a pro tip. If its a little niche bullshit tidbit like “Oh well they call him scar because he has a scar!” Its a quark of an otherwise good film. Making an entirely new and bad film addressing that tidbit doesnt make you a subversive genius it makes you an idiot picking crumbs off the shoulders of giants.
Disney is on a “Make Villians into Heroes” kick. Malificent, Wicked, Mufasa…. Very big lefty thing to dismantle history and say that up is down, left is right, day is night, and so on.
I agree with you but wicked is a universal movie and was a book and broadway show well before it got turned into a movie. Wicked is a good story with awesome songs. Haven’t watched the movie yet but the musical has been around and popular for a long time. I wouldn’t clump wicked into the Disney kick of turning villains into heroes.
Barry even said he didn't liked making movies like this. He clearly only did to have a big budget on his resume. Hollywood have a weird obsession with hiring indie directors for big budget action movies 🤷
Sonic 3 was pretty good. It doesn't take itself seriously. It cracks on multiple movies and genres, including its own and Jim Carrey. I didn't go expecting a masterpiece but I enjoyed myself during its under 2-hour run time.
Just because a movie makes a gazillion bucks doesn't mean it's good, it just means enough people were suckered into seeing a movie because Lion King is such a big brand
I remember Moonlight - it was beautifully shot, and the skin tone of the black actors was stunningly captured by the cinematographer. That’s what I remember about Moonlight.
I watched an early first showing of Sonic 3 last night and boy was it worth it! I loooved Shadow and everything Jim Carrey in all his hilarious glory. Mufasa doesn't stand a chance against our adorable blue blur 💙🦔🖤
Humans have entire brain structures dedicated specifically to helping us differentiate one another at a glance. Most species have something similar amongst themselves, because being able to tell your mom (who feeds you) from the neighbor kids' dad (who might feed ON YOU) is important. When we look at *other* species, though? They're all samey-looking aliens by default. Because it takes not only practice and knowledge but *special equipment* to easily tell the difference.
Kevin Perjurer of Defunctland made an amazing video on the history of Animatronics and how Walt Disney was obsessed with perfecting human like automatons. There’s none of that push for innovation like that in today’s Disney. Look how much Tianna’s ride breaks down and even the most faithful pixie duster complains about the confusing storyline.
Redoing their whole back catalog sounds partially like a result of the loss of the "Disney vault". They used to control to the supply of physical videos, releasing them for anniversaries and format upgrades. But since digital took over, they cannot control that stuff anymore. The only way to leverage old products now is to fully recreate them.
Definitely. Modern Hollywood seems to mainly hire incompetent screenwriters over good ones, simply because the incompetent screenwriters are the ones that sell their souls to Studios promoting "The message".
Disney could probably make more money releasing their back catalog of straight to VHS sequels and prequels to theatres and pretend they are new and it would still be better than the crap their shoveling out now.
please make drinker + chris gore duo long format podcast. would love these 2 talk about movies even if its weekly once. just about old movies and scriptwriting production etc. i think it will be whole different beast if its just these 2 in a long format podcast like joe rogan podcast
Actually, the Narnia movie did manage to get animals to emote better than Lion King. As someone who has animals, I think another problem is that Disney animators doesn't know how ANIMALS express emotions. If they understood animals better, they could let the animals emote like animals, which I think would work, but they don't know animal body language well enough to do this. (This is extremely apparent in the live action Lady and the Tramp in the rat fight scene. In the animated version, the animals move like animals and fight like animals. In the live action, it's very unrealistic, with the rat and dog not acting much like real animals.)
Animals are actually very expressive though, often in ways that read easily to humans. So, even worse - it’s not that the characters for the films couldn’t be more emotive because they’re animals, these adaptations just don’t have very ’animated’ characters (lol) by all accounts.
4:46 gotta disagree with him about Moonlight. It was a great film that deserved its Oscars. But yeah, hopefully Jenkins took that Disney money and ran...
I can’t wait for Sonic 3 to blow this movie out of the water.
Dude you’re so right. In a world of lame Disney live action remakes/prequels we get an amazing trilogy of Sonic movies.
Sonic 3 is a movie of the year contender. ( and , in general , i’m not the biggest sonic fan )
Yeah, funny when the initial trailer hinted at how bad that would be, but thank Common Sense that they listened to feedback and did a U-turn on the CGI being MUCH more faithful, and produced a good sequel. Wish we got more of that, these days.
@@thecircleoft.e.d2121Jim Carrey is taking full ownership of that franchise like Ryan Reynolds with Deadpool. That goes a long way in terms of continuity and quality assurance.
Ending the year with a super sonic bang.
A lion cowering to a hedgehog in both critical acclaim and box office.
Strange times indeed🤣
Not even 10 years ago, if you told me a Sonic the Hedgehog product was blowing a Disney product clear out of the water, I'd have called you insane. We really are living in the bad timeline, aren't we? The one where the guy went back in time to fix something, and that timeline is now fine, but we're in the unchanged one where it was never fixed and we're just left over in limbo.
@@ScrambledAndBenedictwe live in a truely bizarre time 😂
Now now, in the lion's defense the hedgehog had a gun...and a motorcycle.
@@GELTONZ Also a scientist with the shape of an egg piss on the moon
"A lion that doesn't concern itself with the opinions of sheep doesn't sell many movie tickets. The sheep outnumber the lions ten thousand to one." - John Tywin Landister.
Chris’s rants are hilarious. I remember last year when he was trashing the little mermaid, it devolved into a rant raging about the length of movies, how he doesn’t want to spend 3 hours at a theater, that movies need to be 90 minutes, and how he couldn’t understand why Disney made a 2 hour movie for kids with small attention spans.
Im not native english speaker. And I love Chris's rants because he uses words I understand. He makes his point very clearly.
Walt Disney had defined that films not run longer than 80 minutes because kids at the time would loose attention after that length of time. Now they run 2 hours or more and tack on 20 minutes of ads so that kids get restless an hour before the end of the film.
@@writerpatrick Thanks for reminding me that I need to show up at the theater ten minutes late so I'm not staring at blank screens and ads when a movie "starts"
@@Krbyfan1 ONLY ten minutes? The closest theater to me runs 26 minutes!!!
His rants are annoying
The lion king was Simba's story; Mufasa, Scar, and everyone else were side characters. No one asked for a prequel story, let alone a live action one. 🎉
Nothing but a cash grab with a nostalgia hit
@@tylergoodman3560 it was Hamlet's story before Simba and Shakespeare never wrote a prequel to that either
I'm sick of prequels and spin-offs and stupid sequels. Just make something original ffs
Money grab! And when they've remade all their old movies, they'll wait 5 years and remake them all again. And you will fall for it. Cuz that's how you roll.
It's also not live action.
"Live action Disney is kind of terrible." Then later, "water is kind of wet."
Lol.
i believe the theory that the live-actions Disney remakes are the cause of the virus and of all subsequent wars in the world
CGI Disney. Absolutely nothing on this movie is live action!
@@emilynolan187 CGI mockery of Live Action; it may be rendered in 3D but it's as flat as a rough sketch rendition of a photocopy of a old Polaroid picture... utterly soulless.
Not to start another war, but on a different channel's comments page two guys were going at it about whether water is actually wet. Science in action!
"Don't ask questions, just consume product and then get excited for next product"
13 words that perfectly describe modern Hollywood. Shame that there are still a lot of moviegoers who haven't woken up to that.
Disney's mantra for their disposable crap. EAT. SHIT. FLUSH. REPEAT.
Redlettermedia 😂
If you would like a palette cleanser from this atrocity of a film, one of the original animators and artists from films like the original Lion King and Brother Bear is on youtube and has tons of art videos and animation process videos.
All of them show in great details how animators like him went to great lengths to make animal characters readable as analogous to human emotion. Incredible work.
His name is Aaron Blaise and he is a master at his work.
Thank you!! 🙏
He has an ep or two of "Animators react" with the Corridor Crew as well. Dude is a pro. Iger is an idiot for cutting them when they should have been heavily funded and cut loose to do more mature animation to compete with japanese anime.
There is an alternate timeline where Iger is based instead of woke and we have nice things.
If your interested in his work, look up Creature Art Teacher sometime; he has valuable lessons on drawing various animals, as well as how to animate them.
Disney should just re-release the originals in the theater. It would serve the nostalgia and younger audience purpose and turn more of a profit then these crappy "live action" wastes of space.
If they show the original animated Snow White in the theaters, for say 2 weeks, it will make more than the current live action Snow White!
I'm sure that modern Disney execs find all those old GREAT movies just too problematic to be re-released.
It wouldn't justify ppl salary though
Mufasa was an archetype. Just as Scar and Rafiki. An origin story was completely unnessescary
Lion King is no doubt Simbas story and journey, Mufasas death was the catalyst that propelled Simbas journey
Bet they will be dumb enough to do a Rafiki prequel.
@@vincenzobonadonna4556 Yeah I really wana learn where he got his staff, I'm sure it's epic 🙄
I feel like it undermines the exposition of the O.G. since Mufasa makes it seem like this is a multi-generation familial thing when describing the circle of life / kingdom to Simba. Turns out he was just pulling it out of his ass lol
Nothing is sacred anymore. Everything has to be explored through prequels and spin-offs etc. Simply because there's money to be made. This generation of movies will never be remembered - I can't think of any classics from the last 10 years or so.
James Earl Jones passed away this year.
I genuinely DESPISE Disney for shitting on his legacy as an actor.
Ikr. This is why I stick with older movies and shows on physical media so the legacies of the originals and classics don’t become tarnished by liberal filth
Sonic 3 more than deserves to win, I had a blast seeing it. I couldn't help but cheer at a certain part at the end.
I'm happy for those enjoying it, but if Sonic 3 is the big win, it's a sad time we live in
Does said certain part contain a certain song?
Every sane person would cheer at the end.
@@preppen78 Upset that the woke agenda is failing finally?
Oh ho ho ho ho! I know which one!
Godzilla Minus One Director: I'm going to be in the room with the animators every step of the way.
Mufasa Director: "Call me when you're done animating this movie."
This movie actually made me want to rewatch the original Lion King from 1994. I am not a fan of these live action remakes.
Excellent choice 👍
Me either. I saw the original 5 times in the theater and have it on Laserdisc, VHS and DVD.
I've never seen The Lion King as I presumed Elton John did all the music i.e. sang the songs. I found The Circle of Life annoying af, but maybe that was due to it forever being played. The Jungle Book (60s animated version) had all the greatest songs by a country mile imho.
The original is a true classic.
@@boydudereviews The only ones ones I can think of that were actually good, or at least in my opinion, beauty and the beast, Aladdin, The Little mermaid and Maleficent.
This 90s kid now adult won't be taking my 3yr old to see this trash. We just watch the original film at home❤
Slimy yet satisfying
Very Wise
Sonic 3 is where it’s at. Big W. ( and i’m not the biggest sonic fan in general )
I feel bad Chris Gore wasted his hours on a prequel to a live action remake that just ain't worth seeing.
"Tumor" and "Pinball" are what I will be calling the warthog and meerkat from "The Lion King" from now on!
Friend went with their kids. The kids were bored in under 30min. The older one kept asking when it will be over. But they sat through it because they already paid for it. They weren't happy but it sure entertained my lunchbreak hearing about it XD.
3:00 we can't rule out that the writers threw some ideas into ChatGPT.
Copy the homework but make it your words lol.
To be fair it works when writing papers and really saves time, but you don't just copy and paste, you have to go in and edit it / change it up to make it yours. Or else it reads like a wiki page or in the case of Hollywood plays out like Mufasa lol
I wouldn’t be surprised if they used AI in this shitty movie or any of their garbage remakes for that matter
@@anthonyml7My point exactly lol
I saw a poster for Mufasa where two of the lions are looking at the viewer and smiling, it looked terrifying, like they were poorly-taxidermied animals haha
If a lion looked at me like that I wouldn't be surprised, I'm very delicious 😂
"Poorly taxidermied"? Absolutely spot on
All these live action remakes are cinematic taxidermy.
Parents: 2 hours? Sounds like my kids are gonna be bored and restless by the time it ends
Disney: Nah, it'll be fine
That's what I thought! Kids are barely watching movies as it is because their parents are not interested in the movies. This one is two hours long and holds no appeal for adults. Spending a lot of money on a trip to the movies so that both kids and parents can spend the whole time on their phones is a waste.
@@MaryRohwer I'm an adult and have an interest in Mufasa. I don't mind not watching stuff blow up. I wanted to see it because of the realistic animal CGI. That's only why I watch the Lion King remake. It'll never replace the original. No remake will.
@@acarter9277 That's fair. I can see how an animal lover would want to watch it.
Thats what happened with kids that watched Moana 2 lol
Anyone else worried that in a few years time we're gonna get a cartoon version of these "live action" version of the old cartoon movies?
The scary part is that it's entirely possible
Just a vicious cycle
Nah, that’d be too much effort for Disney.
They'll be AI generated CG films.
In a few years time there will be no meaningful distinction between “animated” and “live action”, as every film will be animated (by AI) but will look indistinguishable from live action.
Even straight to DVD lion king 2 was a lot better and had a more moving story with proper characters and better songs. Here we got shit like bye bye
I quit watching LK2 because the villain characters didn't exist in the first one.
Yeah, Bye Bye was weird. I like the vibe and melody to the song but if they had chosen better lyrics than something a toddler says it would've been better.
I have the Kiara alarm clock plushie (really rare these days).
That was a good one, my ex really liked it too
Yeah both that and 1 1/2 are surprisingly good follow-ups out of the direct-to-video era of Disney sequels.
That era of Disney at least had heart and effort put into the corporate formula back in the day.
In the cartoons we see eyebrows, which means the animators can give the characters human like facial keys; but in the "live action" (which of course it is not) the characters are flat.
The OG animated characters had charm and personality.
These ungodly wire puppets all make me flash back to the goat scene from Drag Me To Hell.
The live action 101 Dalmatians managed to give the dogs some personality but these fully CGI "live action" films have no clue what a personality even is.
The OG blended human facial expressions with animal body language, making them comprehensible to viewers while still being animalistic. The new one did neither, so the characters basically just T-pose all the time.
@@lordofthepizzapie9319 For real. When Simba cried because Mufasa died in the 2019 remake, That's where I knew the film was bad. They couldn't even get that scene right.
CGI lion king takes place in the uncanny valley
The Disney live action remakes of animated properties like the Lion King have taught me that it's possible to trigger the uncanny valley effect using a non-human character.
That's *a* kind of impressive, I suppose.
(In much the same way as inventing a new & more effective variety of pepper spray would be.)
Great comment 👍
There is only one Lion King and it was released in 1994
Yes, I even like Lion King 2
1 1/2 was fun imo.
The stage play is great.
*THIS.*
There's only hamlet that's all that matters
Aslan was done well as a CGI animal doing human emotions in the Chronicles of Narnia movies but they didn't translate that idea over to these "live action" ones
He really wasn’t, Aslan had all of the same problems. But then they could get away with it because he is a side character who isn’t on screen very much.
Well the difference (and I noticed this with The Jungle Book as well) there are actual people / humans in those movies. I feel that properly draws attention away from those flaws and imperfections in animal CGI. Hence why it doesn't work with TLK and Mufasa. IMO
@@mouseinthehouse_Thank you. I always thought the same thing. Cartoon animals chatting is cute; CGI animals doing the same is off-putting and creepy.
I would add the main difference is in Naria it was implied to be a magical Lion so you could buy into the idea that something was off about it.
Versus the Lion King/Mufasa that implied that it was taking place in the “real world”. One where humans are apparently not a thing but still.
They really gave Scar the "Solo" treatment, OFC Disney
how long before there's a Scar movie where he's painted as the good guy because that's what Hollywood loves doing these days
"Goodbye, Darth"
@@irishspagetti6565 Yeah and the hyenas are just being starved and oppressed by colonizers which is why they struggle for food
Aslan in The Chronicles of Narnia had far better facial emotions. They know what to do to get it right, they just don't
Drinker
Talk about Sonic 3 lol
He's in the UK so their theatrical releases I think are later then ours so he probably hasn't seen it yet just like Mufasa
Wasn’t out last Thursday.
Nor did he cover the first two if o recall correctly.
Shocker. Anyway go race your way to theaters & see Sonic the Hedgehog 3 instead y'all.👍🏻
I want to but I still haven't seen the first 2, will I be lost?
@@anthonyml7 Our family loved it. Watching the previous movies aren't super necessary, but there are a couple things to know, like rings can create a transport portal.
Other than that, it follows the Shadow story from the sonic games pretty closely.
That thumbnail of Mufasa hanging his mouth open like an idiot is the perfect summarization of this movie.
This is totally off topic, but my favorite Critical Drinker moment was when he swapped out America Chavez from the Multiverse of Madness with different Latin American countries. Bolivia Chavez…Argentinian Chavez. I just about died.
Instead of 'Sonic 3' vs 'Mufasa,' this coulda been 'Sonic 3' vs 'Pumbaa & Timon: A Lion King Saga.'
Yay. A prequel nobody wanted.
Now a good sequel was Christmas Vacation. Its still hilarious.
Christmas Vacation sucked!
@@TI4438 I liked it better than Vacation. Relied less on Chevy Chase.
Best Christmas movie ever.
Live action is not CGI, it's live, and CGI is not live. Mufasa is just CGI, nothing live about it.
I genuinely hope Mufasa and Snow White fail so badly Disney never tries this again.
Sooooo true. They will bomb hard and I won’t watch them.
Anything Chris said about Mufasa is true my mom invited me to watch it a few hours ago, I already am forgetting the plot
It’s heartbreaking to see how terrible Disney has become.
No it’s not. They are a faceless multibillion dollar company & they don’t give 💩💩 about you.
Did we need a pre-prequel? No did we get it ? Yes 🙄🙄😤😤 st this point theyre making money off tax write-offs for flops
It also helps keep the laundromat open
Great an origin story no one asked for or needed.
Uncanny Valley garbage. Sonic 3 is taking it to the cleaners.
Usually when people ask 'what was the point of X?' about a movie, I can still understand it from the studio's perspective at least. But this one? Bemusing.
Money.They thought a prequel about the guy who dies before 30 min on the film would print money.
Mufasa... and I just saw the trailer for STITCH LIVE ACTION and I'm like.... I thought it was a joke but it's real and it looks horrible.
I agree. Stitch looks like a faded blue stuffed animal.
Stitch....live action?
I don't think I *even* want to know.
@@fixman88 You didn't see the official teaser trailer? It features Stitch destroying sand castles, of which one of them is the Disney castle. He looks cute, yes, but his color doesn't pop. He looks faded like a worn out stuffed animal.
We'll see what other bad changes Disney made to the movie when the longer trailer releases.
I knew the Stitch remake a long time ago as a lot of Twitter Activists got mad that the actress playing Nani wasn’t brown. Despite being a native Hawaiian.
And I hated it as a fan of the original.
ANOTHER movie no one asked for. Don’t Disney have focus groups or do any market research?? It’s crazy how often they keep doing this!
They're not *trying* to court engagement from existing audiences. They're trying to doctor artificial ones. That's been their shtick for 10 years at this point.
Wake up and smell the social engineering.
It was pretty stupid for disney to release this movie close to Kraven and I guess Sonic too. A studio that has destroyed so much good will these past few years by constantly attacking fans, getting involved in politics, lecturing the audience, and lowering the quality of their movies vs a studio that built so much good will, strives to please fans and has gone up in quality vs a studio that also avoids pissing off fans but half asses everything, has no quality control, makes the most baffling movie making decisions, and is so incompetent that they cause internet to unite and dogpile on them.
I think I was able to match up the studios to the descriptions.
The canon killed it, like how Scar's betrayal almost killed Mufasa but somehow Mufasa would let Scar anywhere near Simba in the first movie makes no sense at all
And Kiara having a brother makes the whole Lion King 2 Simbas Pride storyline irrelevant now
Songs were not that good either, Lin Manuel couldve focused on Moana 2 instead which had no good songs at all
I’d comment with a Morbius-style meme, but this movie isn’t even worth that 😂
A Mufasillion Dollars
The Lion King (the *actual real* 1994 one) is my favorite movie of all time. I didn't see (and have no interest whatsoever in seeing) either the CGI remake or Mufasa.
Well who didn’t see that one coming?
Emphasis on "didn't see." 😂
The fact that you can't tell whether these movies were written by AI or not, is honestly bad enough you know? It's the artistic equivalent to a lady asking a man, "Is it in yet?"
Member Mufasa? Oh I ‘member!!!
Member classic Disney? Member the 80s?
It's kind of beautiful seeing Sonic 3 winning over Mufasa. A franchise that was saved by listening to the fans and embracing the cartoony nature of their characters versus one that still is on this weird realistic CGI animal thing. Just feels right!
We're getting too used to say "this was ai generated" when in reality we've had awful scripts for pre-sequel remakes for years
If they had traditionally animated this movie in the same style as the original lion king. I would have had more interest in this movie for that alone. And it would have cost Disney less money to make.
100% that would’ve instantly garnered far more positive attention. I have no idea why the hell they’re so averse to classic 2D animation these days.
@@a_fine_edition2746 The only thing Disney makes 2D anymore are the cheesy cartoons for Disney Junior. I've never seen such horrible art except for my own.
The funny thing is Disney has never been a stranger to releasing shitty forgettable low quality sequels to their most popular IPs. But whoever was running Disney back in the 90s knew what they were and only released them on video just for a mere cash grab. Now, Disney thinks that just because it's live action their shitty forgettable low quality pre/sequels are worthy of a cinema release. It's gonna take more than live action and cgi to save that mess.
The original Lion King was the first movie I ever saw in theater as a child. It is sacred to me. I will never taint that by watching any of this new Disney garbage.
“I will call you Catarrh because you usually have catarrh…”
Barry Jenkins is exactly the same case of what Hollywood loves to do, take a up and coming indie filmmaker, throw a ton of money at him, for a name. All he was is the face for the studio that directed this
Politics, girl boss, and Ai is ruining 😒 movies
Where the two of the things you listened were here?
@SubZero-hs9xc Both things are in the Mufasa movie.
What politics are you even talking about???
I swear to you I saw a trailer or promotional clip that had White Lions in it telling Simba? Mufasa? he owns all these lands, yadda, yadda. Disney's dig at Kimba?
"live action animals"
*CAN WE PLEASE STOP SAYING THIS*
YES! If you're animating it, it's NOT live action!
You have to remember, when we asked for Sonic 1, to change the design they said "Here you go, dude. Gotta go fast!". And now, this year where we went "Hey, if they have Shadow, he SHOULD have a gun. It's canon", they said "I am, I'm all of me, I am, I am all of me, I ammmm".
So yeah, they deserve my money.
Disney heres a pro tip. If its a little niche bullshit tidbit like “Oh well they call him scar because he has a scar!” Its a quark of an otherwise good film. Making an entirely new and bad film addressing that tidbit doesnt make you a subversive genius it makes you an idiot picking crumbs off the shoulders of giants.
Spoiler Alert: Mufasa dies in The Lion King.
Just saved you a movie ticket so you can see Sonic 3.
Your welcome.
Disney is on a “Make Villians into Heroes” kick. Malificent, Wicked, Mufasa…. Very big lefty thing to dismantle history and say that up is down, left is right, day is night, and so on.
I agree with you but wicked is a universal movie and was a book and broadway show well before it got turned into a movie. Wicked is a good story with awesome songs. Haven’t watched the movie yet but the musical has been around and popular for a long time. I wouldn’t clump wicked into the Disney kick of turning villains into heroes.
Don't know if anyone expected any less
Barry even said he didn't liked making movies like this. He clearly only did to have a big budget on his resume. Hollywood have a weird obsession with hiring indie directors for big budget action movies 🤷
The live action animals are just like watching nature documentary with weird narrator.
Sonic 3 was pretty good. It doesn't take itself seriously. It cracks on multiple movies and genres, including its own and Jim Carrey. I didn't go expecting a masterpiece but I enjoyed myself during its under 2-hour run time.
Wow, a Disney live action remake sucks? Shocker.
@@RCAvhstape Next up to suck: Snow Woke Brown, Stitch, Tangled, Moana and Hercules.
We need a Sonic 3 review Drinker!
Man, I love listening to Chris Gore describing a movie he saw.
Really? He's annoying and drones on and on and on and on
Is this what movie makers are pushing nowadays , spinoffs , prequils and remakes .
Kids be like "I want to watch animal world mom"
Fucking hell, the state of modern cinema is bloody horrible.
2019 made 1.6 billion, only plausible this one will make 6.1 billion
Just because a movie makes a gazillion bucks doesn't mean it's good, it just means enough people were suckered into seeing a movie because Lion King is such a big brand
I remember Moonlight - it was beautifully shot, and the skin tone of the black actors was stunningly captured by the cinematographer. That’s what I remember about Moonlight.
Slovakia here. No joking. Had no idea this spin off existed.
😂
I hope The Wild Robot wins the animation category 😀
Doubtful, Disney will once again put up two (two sequels funny enough) Inside out 2 and Moana 2. I think Inside Out 2 will win.
I watched an early first showing of Sonic 3 last night and boy was it worth it! I loooved Shadow and everything Jim Carrey in all his hilarious glory. Mufasa doesn't stand a chance against our adorable blue blur 💙🦔🖤
The thumbnail doesn’t even look cgi, it looks like bad taxidermy.
he starts his rant and instantly all cams go off. coincidence? xD
I skipped most of it
Definitely not surprised to see this.
They do all look the same lol
Humans have entire brain structures dedicated specifically to helping us differentiate one another at a glance. Most species have something similar amongst themselves, because being able to tell your mom (who feeds you) from the neighbor kids' dad (who might feed ON YOU) is important.
When we look at *other* species, though? They're all samey-looking aliens by default. Because it takes not only practice and knowledge but *special equipment* to easily tell the difference.
Kevin Perjurer of Defunctland made an amazing video on the history of Animatronics and how Walt Disney was obsessed with perfecting human like automatons. There’s none of that push for innovation like that in today’s Disney. Look how much Tianna’s ride breaks down and even the most faithful pixie duster complains about the confusing storyline.
Watch Chris Gore slowly descend into madness over these last 2 years has been entertaining lol.
Redoing their whole back catalog sounds partially like a result of the loss of the "Disney vault". They used to control to the supply of physical videos, releasing them for anniversaries and format upgrades. But since digital took over, they cannot control that stuff anymore. The only way to leverage old products now is to fully recreate them.
I did not go see it.
All A.I. is slop, but not all slop is A.I.
Definitely. Modern Hollywood seems to mainly hire incompetent screenwriters over good ones, simply because the incompetent screenwriters are the ones that sell their souls to Studios promoting "The message".
Disney could probably make more money releasing their back catalog of straight to VHS sequels and prequels to theatres and pretend they are new and it would still be better than the crap their shoveling out now.
please make drinker + chris gore duo long format podcast. would love these 2 talk about movies even if its weekly once. just about old movies and scriptwriting production etc. i think it will be whole different beast if its just these 2 in a long format podcast like joe rogan podcast
Word in the elementary schools is Sonic 3, for the win.
Wrong!? People remember Moonlight because it’s Gay.
Because of the oscar fiasco more like it
It’s like somebody fires a starting gun and everyone speaks at once as quickly as possible.
why do people keep calling this live action, exactly 0% of this movie is live action
Actually, the Narnia movie did manage to get animals to emote better than Lion King.
As someone who has animals, I think another problem is that Disney animators doesn't know how ANIMALS express emotions. If they understood animals better, they could let the animals emote like animals, which I think would work, but they don't know animal body language well enough to do this. (This is extremely apparent in the live action Lady and the Tramp in the rat fight scene. In the animated version, the animals move like animals and fight like animals. In the live action, it's very unrealistic, with the rat and dog not acting much like real animals.)
Animals are actually very expressive though, often in ways that read easily to humans. So, even worse - it’s not that the characters for the films couldn’t be more emotive because they’re animals, these adaptations just don’t have very ’animated’ characters (lol) by all accounts.
4:46 gotta disagree with him about Moonlight. It was a great film that deserved its Oscars. But yeah, hopefully Jenkins took that Disney money and ran...
who the hell thought live action was the way to go?
This is bullshit, all the theaters in my area only have Sonic 3 on standard screen while musafa is all IMAX
Bullshit
@bassguitarislife3419 I'm glad you agree