What Not to Make in Super Mario Bros. X (SMBX)
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What Not to Do/Make in SMBX
Of course it is somewhat optional but still, in order to make a ordinary Mario Game it has to be a little guide of what not to do on your own SMBX Episodes.
I guess mapmakers in Super Mario Maker didn't see the NOT in the title
in their tutorial, they really should have a section of things not to do if you actually want people to play your level and get stars..
The second I'm in a stupid hidden block trap or death-pipe or death-door... I skip. Things like that are not clever, they're just obnoxious lol
Maybe they think they are so LOL TROLL-ish hahaha so funny, that's why 80% of SMM's levels are bad even nintendo themselfs make bad levels in SMM because the game is aimed towards people that just don't care
5:43 is an actual good level and i don't know what this guy's taste is
hasuke ikr
Obsidian Plague why it's on the list is because it's too hard
Joke level is still better than most Super Mario Maker levels.
sadly
Especially world 1-1 recreations. AKA 99,9999999% of all Super Mario Maker levels
Joke Level is one reason why the Internet isn't for everyone. 😱
Tbh I wouldn’t mind if people made a full map out of that lol...
Joke Level is Basically a smbx level creator and Terminal Montage Putted Together!
"Hard levels with no items"
You can do this sometimes. All it means is that your level has to be designed around the player being able to complete it without getting hit. The original Super Mario Bros. did this in its last level.
CobaltBW Yeeaahh... that's true but at the same time it's kinda mean though.
***** You just have to be reasonable about what you're asking out of the player, especially given the type of level you're making. If it's the last level in the game and all of your obstacles are fair and easy to see coming, it is a design tactic you could use to force some precision out of the player.
Of course, the player expectations might also be different considering the kind of game this is. I've not actually dabbled in SMBX, but it seems to be centered around having a lot of diverse content rather than focused sets of challenges. YMMV depending on the nature of the pack of levels you're making.
CobaltBW could i use this for kaizo levels then?
bjgeantil Hey, you're making the level, not me. Try it out.
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I actually laughed when the grassy level was a water level XD
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Why doesn't he Shell-walljump in the "Unbeatable" one?
Grassy water level....? oh god no
Luigi: *There's water in the sky, Mario!*
Could have an intro where Waluigi says he'll lend you his power to air-swim for a level that would have either really difficult or impossible platforming otherwise. Sure, a level with a theme different from what you'd expect seems bad on paper, but I could see context making a level like that work.
MARIO LOOK! IT'S NEW SUPER MARIO WORLD! THERE'S BLOCKS EVERYWHERE! THERE'S WATER IN THE SKY MARIO! YOSHI COINS!
12:22 Da Best Level Evah.
12:26 😂😂
Did you see my comment?
Yeah
What we see before going to heaven
No.
1:01
But Nintendo themselves did that in _Super Mario Bros. 2_...
+Zeeky Retzorg Dick move is a dick move, did Nintendo do it themselves or not.
+Zeeky Retzorg Super mario bros 2 is a special case, it was not originally designed by Nintendo.
+Chris Do you mean smb 2 US or smb 2, because smb 2 was originally designed by nintendo...
+Wes Rubincan I think the person is confused with Doki Doki Panic
johnny elkins Yeah, same here.
Oh, boy. The nostalgia from this video hit me like a truck
some of these are definitely things to be avoided. blind jumps are never okay, death by invisible coin blocks are never okay. however, other things, such as being forced to use spinjump and glitching through walls can be made into good things with proper design. and you can't seriously expect every person to design every single level around 5 different characters anyways.
*+Koishi Komeiji:* That's why we have character blocks to use to prevent several characters to play these levels. There are peoples who actually use them but for the most time character blocks go left unused and that automatically thinks that a level is possible with every characters yet later on it's not. Also, levels needs to be tested with multiple characters if it's _designed_ that way!
How about when these "kaizo blocks" softlock the player with no way to escape? That is really annoying as well. Might as well not use "kaizo blocks" at all.
It's not hard at all to design every level with all 5 characters in mind, especially because the only potentially game-breaking character is Link. But if you know Link's mechanics, you know how to build around him.
@21st the hidden blocks can be used in a much more annoying way, players can make find the hidden block levels!
Kaizo momment
8:38 but that's exactly what Nintendo did with NSMB2!
Lol you're right
I know, I got 60 lives in a week.
Problem is... that game isn't good :P
Just because you think that the game isn't good doesn't mean that it is. @AbandonedChannel
@@ryleyinsert_last_name3634 NSMB2 defenders in 2019??🤢
Personally, I think the swimming-in-the-overworld level was super cool
Only if there's a good reason to expect the swimming, like say, the level name being "Flooded Fields", or maybe the previous level ending with an action that could result in that much water, something along those lines. Thing is, if you were to do that it wouldn't be "misleading" anymore.
Me too! It’s a pretty cool concept.
Or a mechanic in a star world level, where something is off, like the ground night theme from SMM2
Jungles in suepr mario maker 2 be like
Its actually cool
Like in smm2 the castle night is in space
11:29 that is actually pretty cool ,it reminds me of nyan cat.
The "Cutoff and Misplaced Tile" one is actually valid. They call it the Pokémon Glitch City.
1:00
Hi Mario Maker!! :D :D
Pretty much
Um, not really.
kaizo mario
Cryokinesis um yes really
11:10 Are you jumping to the music?
Yes, I just love doing that if there is nearly nothing to do in a Level like this.
***** I do the same.
***** You also crounch in rhytm with music :D
Nikitaw99 - Let's Plays, games, reviews Peoples rarely notice that by crouching with the music. :P
When I can't properly crouch to the music, what I do is I get on a Yoshi, hold up, and then when he sticks his tongue out, move backwards, as if I was moonwalking.
2:30-3:25
I need to know where that Rosenkreuzstilette level came from. It looks so good!
Joke levels are the best levels though, right?
I'm gonna fight the bees
solo uno cool
*****
please be an hero and save us from your fucking stupid self!
joke levels are funny
Sandra Guo
please tell me you are sterilized... i need some hope
Who *T H E F *bleep* K* Would make that kind of level?
1:19
11:00 I like how they got so sick of it that they decided to have some fun haha
2:24 level download link?
The last level is awesome. XD
12:32 suomi perkele torilla tavataan!
4:01 the defenition of a easy kaizo mario
It might actually be a kaizo Mario level
3:37 Problem solved: The character starts in a box made of the player-specific ghost/solid blocks then place a player-changing block of that tier in the box (using Mario or Luigi specific blocks).
Some of these are actually pretty creative ideas
No, all of them are cheap.
@@nikprobg9327
The joke level isn't
the joke level was beautiful
Jes jes jes Uhuhuuuuuuu Knux sucks.
What language do they speak?
@@par871 Finnish, its way funnier if you know what they're saying
JES JES JES UHUHUUUUUU KNUX SUCKS
Most of these seem to either be troll levels or completely reasonable. I mean, hard levels with no items could be a challenge and invisible coin block traps would be a nice troll level.
+fireballftw1123 - Or kid's levels.
+fireballftw1123 - Try playing some Mario Maker 100 Mario Challenge on Expert Mode, it might change your mind about the invisible coin block traps. It gets old fast.
+JordanMeAwesome I hate that crap too. I only use invisible blocks to help the player find secrets, or to hide cool shit -- never to irritate a player trying to jump over a pit.
+fireballftw1123 - I'm not a fan of the Kaizo style, so I try to put in at least one or two items in per section. I'm careful not to saturate an area with power-ups, as they're counter-productive to making a challenging level. I also have to be careful about Hammer Suits, for they're pretty overpowered, and they can kill just about everything.
+JordanMeAwesome Funny you should say that. Invisible blocks are truly annoying troll tricks but you should consider yourself lucky if that's all there is to a level. I've played levels that require precision landing on a single block between 2 spikes, levels with stars to go through an instant death situation, break blocks by using shells and making sure to save them, and more. Invisible blocks is the least of my worries, 1 lost life at best and 5 when I'm playing badly.
10:52-11:31 was just so painful to watch, even at x2 speed. Then I watched 11:33-11:55 and my heart warmed at the memories of Windows XP when you could drag a window around like that. Good times..
Can we get an F in the chat for Luigi being trapped in a super tiny room at 4:29?
F
Poor Luigi
Thanks algorithm for showing this to me again years later.
music at 2:29? It is such an epic music!
Reposting this again because reasons. Please read: I'm tired of seeing people complaining about this video. You have freedom to use SMBX in any way you want, but this video is not about this.
*This video shows that if you want to make an actual good Nintendo-like level, and if you want it to be approved by SMBX Community, THEN you should consider and follow these tips. You still can make original gimmicks and "creative" things by following these tips.*
You're not forced to follow them at all, it's just that if you won't consider and follow these tips, your levels won't rank high.
The best thing people can do is to not interact with the SMBX forum community in any shape or form.
Multiple fights & arguments inside the community & a small circle of elitists "throwing gasoline in the fire" is what you get. Nothing more than a puppet show controlled by the talented puppet masters. Such an eyesore.
Tough if you want to make a Lost Levels style game you could put the backwards pipe
@@sintheemptyone8108you can be quiet right there buddy you don't talk about that game in that way
@@NatetheNintendofan Says the people who allowed their community to be politically infiltrated years later.
Away with you.
There's politics in SMBX?
11:00 mins where you sped it up and started hopping to the song made my day.
Actually, Nintendo itself has done most of those things...
Blind:
Super Paper Mario, World of Nothing
Blind Jump:
The lost levels, C-3
Invisible Coin Traps:
The lost levels, many place, even with invisible poison mushroom traps
Misleading Theme:
The lost levels, world 9
A lot of NPCs merging each other:
Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam
Hard level with no items and Out of Reach Items:
Many levels in the lost levels
Low bonus rewards:
Many green mushrooms in New Super Mario Bros Series
Backward pipes:
The lost levels, even with backward wrap pipes
Two many elements into one level:
Super Mario Advance 3, Secret 5 & 6
Two many 1UPs(generator):
Basically all of the New Super Mario Bros 2
Two many 1UPs by Enemy Spawner
Nearly all of the Mario game has at least one level for this
Joke level:
All Night Nippon Super Mario Bros
the last one is a whole joke GAME!
Notice how most of these are lost levels and most of the non ones are just mechanics that aren't like he did. Yea says how bad that game is dam
Also mario world and mario 3 has some places where the tiles don't end but you have to destroy blocks to see them first
0:16 I love those clouds with the happy faces.
I like the "Joke Level" part hehehe lol
OH, DERE? AAAAUUDUTGFHUTHGU *insert distorted micheal p here*
Bacon Hair this comment is so fucking old
Hey, I would use that as custom art placeholders
He said
RRRRGAAAAAATTUWEREITDITKIPEIIIAISATTOUATBLBLBLNLBHASAIDIGONNAVICTUOHAITSAQUALITANUJUJUEINEQUELENSEKIMOTSESTAAAAITSAQUALITFIGEUONEUUUUHESAWOEINOUAJMEICTEOUIPROPERIOURILETSBUIIIIIIYGONNAVICTUO
Ultra hard levels shouldn't be a problem as long as they're not filled with stupid invisible coin block traps and other dick moves. People enjoy hard levels when they're fair.
10:01 now kiss >:D
I thought that too :D
10:03...
+mustash fan 1o1 "STOP THIS SHIT IM LIKES GIRLS AND BIRDO IS A MAN!"
Yep
mustash fan 1o1
-what the fuck...-
*[EDIT: I found my old comment here a year after, and I don't quite like it]*
I find the broken background one to be cool. If someone uses them correctly in a level of course.
Maybe only if you use a Pink Floyd track as BGM and use sprites with trippy, neon colors.
Jorge Sanchez Or if they're falling to a next level. It'd be a nice effect.
Wii [U] Maybe I can use this effect after you defeated the Boss entirely... but not sure as of yet.
I don't know... merging NPCs may be kind of fun in certain contexts when used properly...
You know, this is a good guideline video. However, several of these ideas, if implemented correctly and fairly, could be very fun and interesting if used in levels/episodes!
The mario maker before mario maker
When SMBX was born?
you have been awarded the award of having this be the first ever video I watched on youtube
I like that joke level
It's great XD
31 June
3 August)
@@quinnrobinsson1646 Its somebody screaming swear words and stuff like "no dont hurt me daddy" in finnish in the background
@@quinnrobinsson1646 I have no idea.
11:07 i like that you jumped in a rhythm with the music
9:42 how did it crash the game
Some code error perhaps...🤔
It was hilarious when you first pulled out the Birdo.
Broken background looks pretty cool though. xD
this is why nintendo does not add any new content in super mario maker
You can do all of these mistakes in Mario Maker too.
Every level has this on super mario maker lmao
WoodenCreep
WoodenCreep 竹堖
Yeah, SMM levels are already trash, imagine what would happen if Nintendo added more stuff.
3:15 Ah, it all makes sense now. It's just a Wily stage level knock-off.
i actually liked the joke level
Me too
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funnily enough, a lot of this is done in Mario Maker
3:50 creating the Eleventh Doctor's theme using SMBX fireballs lol.
2:23 NSMB2's Impossible pack in a shellnut (also no coins, and I know this is an old video)
Tangerine Paint Video was made in 2014, and NSMB2 and all its DLC came out in 2012
01:18 I would LOVE to play a swimming in the sky ☁️ level!
02:15 You could use this to make extra durable enemies. Like ones that need to be shot 5 times with a fireball.
11:32 Fits the theme.
I know
5:57 Now I know what it's like to play Mario Bros on drugs.
Everyone : JOKE LEVEL
Me : The Song In The Hard Level...
8:01 "forcing you to glitch through in order to get further on on your level"
Today: glitch levels
3:50 Those fireballs sound catchy 😂 It's like a better dubstep
hahah I love how you started jumping in tune with the music at 11:09. This video is hilarious LOL
I just realized Super Mario Maker came out 1 year after this video...
People should’ve saw that coming lol
He was warning us.
He was warning us and we didn't listen.
I remember seeing this video years ago
I avoided all of this advice and made a SMBX troll level
*1)* I for one think the average SMBX level overstays its welcome by perhaps a minute or so, if not more. I'd much rather have a level I can beat within two to four minutes, without having to speed past every goodie that's in plain sight. Want a more thorough example? I think _Super RMN World_ has probably the highest percentage of levels with reasonable length out of any other SMBX episode I've played.
*2)* Again in regard to the length problem I have with these levels, they don't give a lot of power-ups, either. Always have one at the start and at the halfway checkpoint, and preferably one per area larger than five total screens.
*3)* If there's a route in a level that only one character can take, it's probably best to block it off with that character's block and make another full-fledged pathway that doesn't require any specific character. Require spin-jumping for optional stuff only, like more powerful Yoshis since only the Bros. can ride them.
*4)* If the pipe you enter is farther to the right than the one you exit out of, that should be reflected in the bonus area. And if it does take you backwards, another bonus at the exit point that couldn't be reached otherwise should await.
*5)* One theme per area, max. Preferably, if there's more than one theme, more than one area should use each of them. The only exception I carve is for hub worlds and secret warp zones.
*6)* Easiest way to not max out your lives counter? Play a game that doesn't spam enemies or other NPCs near the goal.
*7)* Exits made impossible by poor planning on the player's part are one thing, and should be saved for ROM-hacks if at all. Outright impossible exits are a category that should not exist.
*8)* Requiring the use of glitches is cheap. Again, either use it in a ROM-hack, to uncover Easter egg, or not at all.
*9)* Moving objects are not really meant to move via the means of layers, so things get worse as they get faster. Try to avoid the feature if you don't need it.
*10)* 11:34 _You Made It!_ in Super Mario Bros. X, huh? Perhaps as a gimmick to a bonus level it would be passable, but definitely not in a standard one.
1:25 Tbh I like the aesthetic of the grassy water level
IS THERE ARE A WAY TO MERGE ALL THIS TOGETHER?
because if yes, it would make the worst level ever
Make a big mashup level using many sections.
I wanna do that, or at least "too many types of NPCS"
Theopold the Gamer Hold my beer.
I recently made a level in SMBX 2 that has one of every block, npc and scenery. It took ages.
@@thecornmaker849 can I see it?
@@thecornmaker849 video, or it didn't happen.
7:07
Mario: "Please, have a-mercy!"
this video is strangely rewatchable
11:33 - Mario wins at solitaire
I'm sorry, but some of these "mistakes" are AWESOME! But, that's just me (PS: I'm a weirdo)
BTW, do you HAVE to use Mario Allstars graphics/sound/etc in this game maker?
*+Harthos ShlivanHivon* Not really. You can use any graphics that are importable into SMBX rather than just the default graphics that they have.
+bossedit8 This sounds like a good game, where can i buy it?
***** SMBX? SMBX is a free downloadable software that can be downloaded in www.supermariobrosx.org
*****
Oh, thanks :)
NO
AHH The nostalgia ...
time to do nothing with that knowledge and definately combine it all into one level wmahahahah
so you're going to make a short, unbeatable joke level with too many elements in it but no powerups, have unnecessary buried NPCs, generate too many 1ups and npcs, have too many bosses, break the background, have an error occur, and on top of all that make it bland. If you succeed, I would tip my wing-cap to you sir/madam for a single-most impossible task.
maybey >:D
This is why i love this game so much than original.
BlackJaguarGX64 Because editor!
yeah. everything
Thank god Super Mario 3D World solved the invisible block problem with use of the Ww U gamepad
they didnt solve the broken backround tho
11:12 - 11:18 mario's jumping and the music sound the same :D
The one at 2:22 just wants to challenge you, it shouldn't be a level you shouldn't make. Consider it like the Perfect Run in SMG2, except just a bit less difficult
broken background is ship plus something
man... I remember watching this video in 2014, back when it was new 😅. good times
4:52, the definition of a glitch level
11:37 that song fits so perfectly
Its Waluigi's Pinball, lol. 😅
I'm sorry but the examples in your video made me laugh so much, haha.
Entertainment for the win!
7:50 that's a shell jump level.
All these qualities go to Mario Maker too people...
+Viral Sun But you can't make more than half of the stuff shown here in Mario Maker lol
h2643 You know what I mean.
+h2643 That's not necessarily true.
The Gamer Of The Wise Well, it is.
h2643 Poor tiling, Too many 1-ups, Enemy Spam aka Monster Overloads, Traps, Hard levels with no power ups, Too many things in one level, Low Bonus rewards, Gitches to beat levels, forced spin jumps, Take too long to progress are all possible, Your point?
I laughed so hard when you started pulling bosses out of the ground...
Do what not to make in Super Mario Maker
9:50 is the best thing ever XD
Ahh, I *sea* what you did there the music and jumps on the long obstacle part.
Actually, that "glitched background" seems pretty funny to me haha
Luigi: Mario look at this level I made
Mario: it's world 1-1 Luigi you didn't make it
Luigi: it my own level I made it
1:35 THERE'S WATER IN THE SKY MARIO!
Can I have a download of the Joke Level? I want to show it my finnish friend ^^
Get Tower of Biased 2
Ahh. Thank you.
Emrldy haw haw very funny
KarateCaveman rude
@@firestarplays hi
"Too many elements" is actually me whenever I start a new editor game lok
What not to do in your world map?
Maybe. I need to collect those "What not to Made" inside a World Map Ideas first.
*****
Disjointed path tiles, locks with no key, swarms of Hammer Bro. events, 100 levels in the same map, tons of levels directly next to each other, and so on and so forth.
***** Accutally you can have 100 levels in the same map.. You can have much as levels you want. So ya I mean I've seen tons of levels like that.
Jake Mitchell What I meant was it's generally not a good idea to have _quite_ that many levels in _the same world map_. I mean, if you can make it work effectively, go for it... but I don't think most people can justify that kind of thing.
***** Edited, I didn't need to comment.
8:37 Most satisfying clip ever.
To be honest, I like levels with no items, it really does offer great challenge and I love it. :)
EDIT: Oh, and the levels where you use your spinjump are fine too, it puts it to good use, and also has to do with skill.
Except if you don't use character blocks.
5:43 Oh that reminds me, I have to get the creators of Theory of Everything to make an 8-bit version!
12:41
mario: hey that's petty good
palyer: :l DUMB LEVEL HAHAAH
mario: GOOD LEVEL
(not) LOL
11:33 I got to admit, that looks awesome.
can u stack enemys?
Yes with NPC codes or with most SMB2 Enemies.
I feel like those extremely hard levels are acceptable as long as:
-There are power ups and a checkpoint somewhere.
-This isn't a random hard level in your SMBX episode where everything else is normal.
-Your SMBX episode is identified as being a specifically difficult one, so it is expected.
Macmeister D
-No cheap deaths
the joke level was just too random LOL