Thanks fellas, Ryan you've helped me a lot within this Revit Plumbing, much appreciated Keep it coming. Hmmm Families, argh Different types of Floor Drains, Floor sinks, Funnel Drains, Drain pans for heat pump auxiliary pans, Cold Water Heaters, Maybe heat pump auxiliary drain pans with condensate trap/vent, condensate backwater valve for storm tie-in, Auto-Flow Valve, water filter, Wall combination service boxes, Leak Detection tape, Leak detection pucks Custom Annotative slope arrow Regards,
@mep_guy Thank you very much for today's presentation. Wish I could have joined the live session. I would like to get your take on creating pipe accessories families, in particular, valves. As you may have experienced yourself, most Senior Engineers are still adamant about having a 2D representation of the valve types on plans, but the 3D geometry does not satisfy that requirement, as the TOP view representation will not look anything like the symbols any given company may already have in place. So, it is always necessary to create custom content, what will be the basis of design on most projects for any given valve type (e.g. ball, butterfly, gate), and embed some 2D representation within the family. I've seen 2D generic annotations families embedded and I have seen symbolic model lines used too. The problem with 2D generic annotations is that if the family needs to be rotated so the handle of the valve is accessible from a certain direction, the 2D representation will NOT be visible any longer. If using symbolic model lines, their behavior is too unpredictable. Any suggestions, tips, tricks you can offer are greatly appreciated.
Great comments! I know the issue you are having. I have a trick for it. search for a video where I add a symbol inside a ball valve family. It's a strange trick, but it gets the job done. I need to revisit ball valves and adding annotations inside them. I will make a note to add a lesson in my new families course since creating a ball valve is a not an intuitive process.
Great stuff, Ryan. Nice to put a face to a name. You and Jon inspire me to create my own content. I am curious to know how y’all balance work / content creation and get any sleep!
Thanks for the great video. I would love to see a buffer tank family just like the AHU families where you could quickly add and move flanges, maybe even differentiate between reserve flanges and actual flanges and also adjust the height, diameter and maybe even insulation diameter easily.
Thanks for this video, Nicolas and Ryan! Nice to see the MEP Revit subjects get some publicity on the Architectural channels. Like you pointed out Ryan, we in the MEP disciplines have different needs in our models than our architect friends - very much highlighted by your example of simple "boxes" for the geometry, with the "important" parts being the connectors and the data that they utilize. I did find it interesting that a lot of the comments in chat (while Ryan was showing data/calculation examples) were more about hosted vs non-hosted MEP families - a common large debate like you mentioned Ryan. And I liked your explanation of who has "control" of the building elements that our MEP families are actually attached to - great perspective. Again guys, thanks for covering this topic! Cheers!
Thanks Rob! I've been watching your youtube videos and I'm learning so much! They are absolute gold! I'd love to chat with you about electrical templates. I'll reach out to by email.
ExhAirInCalculated ExhAirOutPreset OutdoorAirOutCalculated OutdoorAirInPreset Assign parameters to respective connectors. OA to bldg = SA Out Calculated Exh from bldg = EA In Calculated Exh to Exterior = EA out Preset OA from exterior = EA in calculated Set the preset flows to equal calculated flows. This has worked for me from a flow propagation perspective w/ custom and mfr families when the equipment is standalone. Getting “OA supply” (SA system classification) from an ERV to mix with an AHU or DOAS return is tricky and I haven’t quite figured it out yet. Likely requires the use of a custom tap that converts air stream flows from one system to the other (going down a rabbit hole as I type this out, LOL). My advice to all MEP engineers - purchase Rushforth Tools immediately, learn how to use shared parameters, and make parameter templates w/ predefined formula scripts to mass jam everything you need into a family at the click of a button. I cannot emphasize enough how much easier your life will be.
Like and comment to keep the algorithm going.
Thanks fellas,
Ryan you've helped me a lot within this Revit Plumbing, much appreciated
Keep it coming.
Hmmm Families, argh
Different types of Floor Drains, Floor sinks, Funnel Drains,
Drain pans for heat pump auxiliary pans, Cold Water Heaters,
Maybe heat pump auxiliary drain pans with condensate trap/vent,
condensate backwater valve for storm tie-in,
Auto-Flow Valve, water filter, Wall combination service boxes,
Leak Detection tape, Leak detection pucks
Custom Annotative slope arrow
Regards,
Great ideas! I'll add them to the list!
Thanks for the input. I've sent Ryan some terrible versions that I would like to see improved without overloading the model.
Yes, and hope to do a video on some of the things I saw in the near future!
@mep_guy
Thank you very much for today's presentation. Wish I could have joined the live session.
I would like to get your take on creating pipe accessories families, in particular, valves.
As you may have experienced yourself, most Senior Engineers are still adamant about having a 2D representation of the valve types on plans, but the 3D geometry does not satisfy that requirement, as the TOP view representation will not look anything like the symbols any given company may already have in place. So, it is always necessary to create custom content, what will be the basis of design on most projects for any given valve type (e.g. ball, butterfly, gate), and embed some 2D representation within the family. I've seen 2D generic annotations families embedded and I have seen symbolic model lines used too. The problem with 2D generic annotations is that if the family needs to be rotated so the handle of the valve is accessible from a certain direction, the 2D representation will NOT be visible any longer. If using symbolic model lines, their behavior is too unpredictable.
Any suggestions, tips, tricks you can offer are greatly appreciated.
Great comments! I know the issue you are having. I have a trick for it. search for a video where I add a symbol inside a ball valve family. It's a strange trick, but it gets the job done. I need to revisit ball valves and adding annotations inside them. I will make a note to add a lesson in my new families course since creating a ball valve is a not an intuitive process.
Great stuff, Ryan. Nice to put a face to a name. You and Jon inspire me to create my own content. I am curious to know how y’all balance work / content creation and get any sleep!
Same question as you, I feel over heat at work 😥
Thanks for the great video. I would love to see a buffer tank family just like the AHU families where you could quickly add and move flanges, maybe even differentiate between reserve flanges and actual flanges and also adjust the height, diameter and maybe even insulation diameter easily.
Great idea!
Thanks for all the support everyone! If you want to check out our courses and template files, there is a link to my website in the description.
Thank you soo much for your valuable information.
Can you please share your electrical guy TH-cam channel link please?
@@fedinsane Search "The Electrical Department". His logo is a lightbulb with (TED)
For detailing,Window familys with Sill and Lintel built-in that can be schedule after?
Yea just pull its default elevation
Floor drain families
I'll get right on it!
Electrical Panel family for NEC and IEC standards
I need to study up on my electrical families!
Great Content. Can you build a terminal air with multiple connections and the flow working for each connection? 😅 TY
Done!
Great presentation. Can you build VAV box family for mechanical? Thanks.
Definitely. We already have some at our website for purchase. Are there any special features that you'd want to see in a family like this?
why i dont see any pressure lost method in those families ? how do you do the calculations for pressure drop , noice calculations ?
MAU Family, great tips @ryan
Thanks!
I'd live to learn how to build switches and lights that are New Zealand specific.
Thanks for this video, Nicolas and Ryan! Nice to see the MEP Revit subjects get some publicity on the Architectural channels. Like you pointed out Ryan, we in the MEP disciplines have different needs in our models than our architect friends - very much highlighted by your example of simple "boxes" for the geometry, with the "important" parts being the connectors and the data that they utilize. I did find it interesting that a lot of the comments in chat (while Ryan was showing data/calculation examples) were more about hosted vs non-hosted MEP families - a common large debate like you mentioned Ryan. And I liked your explanation of who has "control" of the building elements that our MEP families are actually attached to - great perspective. Again guys, thanks for covering this topic! Cheers!
Thanks Rob! I've been watching your youtube videos and I'm learning so much! They are absolute gold! I'd love to chat with you about electrical templates. I'll reach out to by email.
@@mep_guy Thanks! You bet - will watch for that.
Thanks What about a ERV family?
I'll put it on the list!
ExhAirInCalculated
ExhAirOutPreset
OutdoorAirOutCalculated
OutdoorAirInPreset
Assign parameters to respective connectors.
OA to bldg = SA Out Calculated
Exh from bldg = EA In Calculated
Exh to Exterior = EA out Preset
OA from exterior = EA in calculated
Set the preset flows to equal calculated flows.
This has worked for me from a flow propagation perspective w/ custom and mfr families when the equipment is standalone. Getting “OA supply” (SA system classification) from an ERV to mix with an AHU or DOAS return is tricky and I haven’t quite figured it out yet. Likely requires the use of a custom tap that converts air stream flows from one system to the other (going down a rabbit hole as I type this out, LOL).
My advice to all MEP engineers - purchase Rushforth Tools immediately, learn how to use shared parameters, and make parameter templates w/ predefined formula scripts to mass jam everything you need into a family at the click of a button. I cannot emphasize enough how much easier your life will be.
Thanks Nicolas
Thanks Ryan! Good content!
Thanks!
Great Video, Thank you!
Thanks Joe!
Thank you, Nicolas and Ryan! great topic and valuable insight...very much appreciated. I am looking forward to connecting with you at some point.
Tks guys a lot
Really nice video, I wan an architect and not aware back then about making life of MEP guys easier with simple tricks.
Norway
Thanks for this video
Thanks!
!Raffle
Thanks for all the info!
you're welcome!
Very good video
Thanks so much!