@@annett5 I misremembered it a bit. He said, “It is quite generic that a heroine is usually a woman who motivates a man. However, I don’t really like that way of thinking. There was a time when my head actually filled up with the idea of Mikasa turning that kind of character development around. That is the reason that she became a strong woman who excels in combat.” I found it in a reddit post which was a collection of Isayama interviews, but they didn’t cite the source. I’d link you to the reddit post but TH-cam doesn’t allow links in comments.
The Farmer is a Chad he bullied Historia throw rocks at her called her horrible names and became King of the Walls! You just got to live Isayama writing women.
@@wakey-vk5jkthat was such a dumb statement. Like, dude, you created Armin, he doesn't exist and can't think for himself. YOU are the writer who should come with a solution, not the fictional character you created 😂😂😂
Hey now THATS SINS OF THE FATHER THEME which became the more interesting deeper plot here that unfortunately got thrown out by the End F yams man is a A@@s Clown
@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003 You're right!! These people won't ask questions they would just consume even if it makes no sense... but if you ask any questions they will hit you with the "You Didn't Understand The Story" and "The Ending Is Perfect " when it's been retconned to death .... I'm they sure don't even remember what happened in S1 to S3 properly.. The assassination of characters, story and the themes are just mind boggling 👌 People who defend this trash rom-com of an ending are the ultimate Clowns Surpassing Isayama himself
@@megha_228 totally man absolutely it’s pathetic how this fans Don’t think or even ask themselves is this reallly what the creator wanted with everything that was built up through the series LOL bunch of mindless sheep with no brains but just CONSUME 🤪 don’t question and remember DETERMINATION shut up don’t question it Determination lol 😂
Remember when man said “ I AM SPECIAL BECAUSE I WAS BORN INTO THIS WORLD.” Now he’s saying “mikasa finding another man? I DONT WANT THAT!” Isayama really forgot the theme of his own story lol
@spike.07 Ending defender make it seem she was a compelling character or that eren and mikasa have a relationship when it was mostly one sided thing by mikasa side.
@@kyordannydelvalle523Exactly throughout all the seasons the only time Eren expressed any time of love to Mikasa was season 2 episode 12 but after that it seems isayama just decided to pretend that didn't happen.
Just think about it: Isayama managed to create a silent character, with ZERO dialogue and ZERO monologue but still explore her backstory, struggles, suffering, mystery around her motivation, set such amazing parallels between her, the mc, historia, freckled Ymir, zeke and frieda only through her emotions and actions, symbolism and visuals, he connected it with aot's themes and its lore. He managed to write THIS... so she, ymir fritz, got to be destroyed by 3 gd lines ("only Ymir knows...", "ymir loved the king fritz" and "she was waiting for mikasa") Just... why? WTH? FOR WHAT? Where do I begin? Well, her love for the king... Firstly, no way it's Stockholm syndrome as this shit works differently. So, no. Secondly, even if she loved the king, WHEN did she start to develop feelings for him? Before freeing the pigs? After their marriage? After getting pregnant? When? Thirdly, WHY does she have affection for fritz? He ruined her life in every way, he abused her physically and mentally, he did the same to their children but she... Uh, ok, let's see (as if we can). It's clearly shown in 122 she hated her life with him. But fine, if she loved him, why did she disobey him by freeing the pigs and not regenerating? Why didn't she smile or wasn't happy when he was around? Why did she want him dead instead of her and regreted not letting fritz die? If she regretted this whole time, doesn't it mean she already put herself and her daughters above her husband so the titan curse could end sooner? Now, ymir and mikasa... Their connection has NO buildup. It's never hinted at something common between these two throughout the entire show. The Ackerman's headaches had no allusion to the goddess. So why her? What about this woman made fritz choose mika? The fact she was an Ackerman? Or the person who was able to kill the love of her life? Um, couldn't ymir find someone else, like, sooner, 282 years ago FE, among millions of people, within 2000 years? Or it's because mika killed the founder when it separated from the hallucigenia? How does mikasa know her headaches are caused by ymir messing with her head if eren didn't tell her about that? Who knows, who cares... Why even show so many well-written parallels between ymir fritz, eren, historia and freckled ymir if they have no payoff? Why does Ymir find herself in mikasa but not historia whom she has much more in common with? Historia is a better version of her, so why not wait for reiss? For what reason does she pick a girl with no dignity, self-respect and ability to move on or grow up? How are her relationship with fritz and eremika bond even similar? Eren didn't treat mikasa the way fritz treated his wife. Eren saved and freed mikasa, that assh*le enslaved and turned his woman's life into a nightmare. The mc and the king are completely different just like mika and ymir. What'd she do if mikasa suddenly changed her mind and didn't kill eren? Wait for 2000 years for someone again? How can mikasa help her move on from the king if she herself didn't move on from eren? Next, if Ymir was the one to make titans in paths, who made her titan? Was the hallucigenia a separate organism or was it connected to fritz after giving her titan powers? If it wasn't connected to her, then why did it disappear instead of trying to find a holder? Why was it trying to find one at first but vanished after Eren's death? So the founder's death affects it? Then the hallucigenia should have died when Ymir died. But they're not connected, are they? Or the opposite? Ugh... Why did the founder split into 9 titans? Why not 6 or 27 or 3 if she had 3 daughters? If maria, rosa and shina were able to get their mom's power at the same time, does that mean both erwin and armin could eat bertholdt and become shifters together? And if these 3 ate the founder, shouldn't every descendant of the royal family possess it? Whose child inherited the founder? Rosa's? Maria's? Shina's? Or all simultaneously but after that it split into 9 titans? How did fritz know about the way of passing titan powers to new holders? Was Ymir dead when he fed her to their daughters? If she was, then her power should have been given to a newborn eldian. If she wasn't, then she let the king chop her into pieces and saw her daughters eat her? Is that even possible to stay alive after getting dismembered so many times? If she can rewrite her people's dna, that means she can lengthen their lifetime or make them invulnerable or immortal? Can she provide them with armor appearing out of their bodies or weapons out of the air? Or just stop them from turning into titans? About paths... I refuse to talk about how they work. It'd take one more paragraph Additionally, whose side is Ymir on throughout the story? On fritz's, who planned to build Eldian empire? Or on Zeke's and Karl's who wished to end this empire's existence and wanted her descendants to die? Or on Eren's who tried to save some of them? Is she with mikasa who stopped eren from doing it? Or is she with the alliance who did everything in their power to save the rest of humanity on the continent? Or is she on the royal family's side? WHOM does she obey? Or is it just going with the flow of events? If that's the case, then how can she wait for mikasa? But if it's still for witnessing mika murdering eren, then why does she listen to zeke when eren enters paths? By this logic, she should join the mc right away to see him get killed as soon as possible. Why does she join eren at first and start the rumbling with yeager but then help the alliance defeat him? Why'd she do that to someone who made her moved to tears for the first time after 2000 years of suffering, who told her she's just a person, not a slave or a god, that she gets to decide and choose? Why are we told in the final mikasa saved her if eren already did that? Did she need help twice? If the mc wasn't the one to free her, how could she disobey zeke? Is eren her liberator or pawn? If a liberator, why didn't she tell him what tf she wanted or write shit on the sand, anything? If a pawn, why make a show "at your service, mr zeke" and weep after Eren's speech? Did eren and she even need zeke's royal blood after the rumbling started? Yes and no? Also, what exactly made titans disappear? Eren's death, his refusal to live, the fact the hallucigenia separated from the mc, fritz seeing the kiss? What? Ymir's desire to stop? So you mean to tell me she wanted them to exist? She could refuse to make them anytime? Are you kidding me? Why did she smile at the end of ch 138? Because eren got killed or because the goddess saw the kiss? What were those scenes with her watching everyone during the rumbling all about? To think that for more than 100000+- years (if we take into account time in paths moves slower) she created MILLIONS of titans when shifters transformed and when eldians turned into them (dozens times a day), healed her descendants (once again, dozens times a day), changed or erased their memories, rewrote their dna, made shit from crystals, walked millions of kilometers to build titans, carried many-many pails with water and sand, climbed high to make enormous arms, heads, necks etc... for TWO THOUSAND YEARS she made her children and their children suffer, made the world endure, helped the mc start GENOCIDE, watched millions of people die and kill each other, witnessed her people eat one another and so on just because she COULDN'T MOVE ON FROM HER ABUSER! Do you realize how absurd and unrealistic it sounds? What else should I say... Saintitchief is right: either she's the dumbest or the most despicable person ever. Either her plotline is retconned at the last moment or the author just didn't think it out properly (which is so unlikely if you remember the 1st episode's name). Or after all, maybe, just maybe, she was the true aot villain all along, not a victim as we thought. We were just ignorant to see it or didn't want to notice. Tmm, Ymir's character gained the worst conclusion in snk, even worse than eren as we didn't even get to know about her motivation. It remained a mystery because "only she knows...". Her arc was so unresolved and so underdeveloped. What was isayama even thinking?
@@kokroughtoss1257it could contain essays about all destroyed aot characters or why the ending sucks😅 would take 2837733892+ pages. Name: how to not end stories
Man I'm sooo satisfied ❤ everytime i discover isiyama ruined everything.. thanks man... I just want to know if you know about the paths anything you could write about it here I'm waiting for you
Looking at the flashbacks with her always being showed with her eyes CLOSED, no fucking body can tell me she didnt get woken up by Eren and chose violence. Seeing her eyes for the FIRST time with that expression, at the time i knew it was GG for the world. There was never any confusion there, all the Mikasa being the chosen one is certainly contrived nonsense
If the most you have for a romance in 139 chapters and 90+ episodes is two people blushing, making said romance not only the focal point of the finale but the entire series is downright laughable. Mikasa never moved on from Eren because her character is defined by nothing else. She has no aspirations, dreams, or personal interests. Every facet of her character revolves around Eren. This only makes it all the more unbelievable when she is the focal point of Attack on Titan. How is it that in 2000 years, Ymir never found the answer she sought, but instead, it was Mikasa she was waiting for? This is exaggerated by the fact that time moves exponentially slower in Paths. Ymir has near omnipotence, able to see the memories of all Eldians. The suspension of disbelief is beyond shattered. Not to mention the fact that Ymir can see future memories. I agree with Saint that Ymir's character would've been better served as an antagonist, the true ruler of the Eldian Empire. This truly allies her with Eren's goal. Even more interestly, gives her purpose, creating the titans in paths, furthering the lives of her children, and arming them. She would be fighting for the freedom of her children as Eren is fighting for the freedom of Paradis. This, along with determinism, are my biggest critiques of the finale, and ultimately, they ruin the series as a whole.
They show that Mikasa dies of old age with Eren’s scarf around her neck, she never got over him. So what did Ymir learn from Mikasa exactly? Only Ymir knows.
Maybe this would over complicate it but I feel like there should’ve been two Ymir’s, it makes no sense that Ymir is serving the eldian empire but she makes titans that literally are used by Marley to build their empire. I dont know if a second Ymir would fix it but I can’t get pass ymir serving king Fritz yet she build titans the armoured and female Titan that goes on to kill a fuck ton of eldians.
@@annett5no i mean that in all the anime she's annoying af, literally no excuses, they cut some scenes of the manga that made her look a bit better. But still the worst character of the show
@@julietx0x0 agreed. However, for me personally in the manga she's still a bad character (spoiler: Mikasa's the worst-written heroine I've ever seen. Even sakura is not as bad as her). And I think she's a psycho
Mikasa’s character honestly makes me feel so upset. The groundwork for her character was literary perfection. She was more than capable of growing into her own identity free from Eren, and maybe everything else. She in a way was like Annie. The only difference was her growth would be more impactful because oh how much of an influence Eren was on her life…but she never grows past Eren. Killing Eren is not moving on from him, or helps define her as a unique character apart from Eren. In fact, she is forever tied to Eren at that point. The way she embraces Eren’s head, crosses an ocean to bury him, and continues to latch onto the scarf Eren gave her just makes her a temple built to honor Eren. Eren is the beginning and ending of all her faux glory, which there is none. She does nothing in the story that is unique or builds a force or expression not only unique to herself, but has an influence of affect on the story. Eren even tells her he hates her because she’s just a lap dog, and he’s not wrong. She lives to serve Eren emotionally and physically; from protecting him from bullying/violence to comforting him when she sees he is alone and in distress. That’s it. That’s all she ever is and becomes in the end. With Eren;s death, she still honors his memory for zero justification. I truly despise how people suggest “they were close, of course she would remember him”. Eren is a genocidal murderer. He slaughtered millions of babies. He is truly evil. Why would anyone with their own agency and sense of values bother remembering someone like that? The final goodbye should’ve been Mikasa lopping Eren’s head off. I would’ve accepted at least the excuse that her killing Eren was her moving on. Alas, it never happens. A truly promising character with tens years of build amounting to nothing but a beacon for another character that was written poorly.
I still have no idea why tf mikasa didn't end up hating eren in the end. It would've been the peak of her character development. Imagine her loving him so deeply in the first season and starting to despise him for all the things he did in season 4: - abandoned his friends for 10 months without saying a word, - didn't tell them anything about his plans or the future he saw, in other words, didn't trust her or someone else, - manipulated them, so they attacked liberio, - killed a lot of innocent people and took war hammer away. This action destroyed the options for negotiations between paradis and the world, - endangered them in liberio having caused sasha's death + jean could've been killed by pieck or gabi - secretly came up with the wine plan, got rid of pixis and the rest having turned them into pure titans + was indirectly responsible for Levi's injury - organized the explosion she barely survived in, - said he had always hated her and punched armin multiple times, - locked them in prison, - mentioned wanting the scarf to be thrown away, - endangered them in shiganshina (reiner, porco, pieck, the marleyan soldiers, pure titans, walls destruction), - formed the organization responsible for chaos on paradis without armin or her knowing, - made them fight him and the Yeagerists during the rumbling, - killed hange - left his friends without titan powers and the walls which were the only way to defend paradis and them, - and of course DID THE RUMBLING that destroyed 4/5 of the whole world, hundreds of cities and cultures, millions of memories, lives, dreams, plants, animals, for no god damn reason How, HOW can she have feelings for him after all of this crap? Is she an insensible cardboard box? AOT's female lead, with so much screentime, the strongest paradis soldier (after Levi having got hurt), is like THAT? With no freaking development? Or exploration? Or the impact on the story and its characters? What the actual fu*k?
@@DL500316 this is so dumb aotNR is the biggest piece of shit ive ever seen they idiots claimed they fixing the ending they gonna have no fans and support after anime finished. So dumb they want Eren to kill all his friends make it make sense pls
@@askingalex2319it does make sense. Eren wants to be free from the people trying to kill him outside the island. And he achieves it but at the cost of his friends. It’s a good tragic outcome
@@DL500316 and the whole world lives peacefully for generations to come, nah war still happens bro and would happen in your AoTNR world which means Eren killed his friends lives for nothing now at least his friends generation and a few after get to be free and fine to inevitably another conflict starts and war starts again.
Also if you haven't noticed, AnR is releasing their 4 part. And they are finally accepting help in their project to be finished faster. Peak is coming back 💪
Anr ? Isn’t that the ending where EREN is hisu’s child’s father and do 100% rumbling and whatever based on the song of linked horizon ?😂 Its more worse than og ending lol
I am highly appreciated by your crusade Good sir. When I watched the ending I knew it didn't feel right. My brother and I have been having debates in wether or not it was good, and you helped me realize just HOW MANY flaws there are... Mikasa is a nothing bullshit character that should've never been written in the first place, and Eren should have had the freedom to choose the rumbling to protect his people. Hell, that's not even taking into account that Eren didn't even finish the rumbling, told us he wanted Mikasa to kill him, and said she, yes HER DUMBASS was the goddamn main character. Even if a lot of my feelings on the ending are skewed I stand by that opinion
29:20 I think one of the biggest indicators that Isayama never planned any of this is the biggest plot device in the series - Armin's book. When the outside world was revealed and the true history of the world told to us, it should have then become apparent that the book would undoubtedly have references to the Eldian Empire and the power of the Titans they commanded inside it, as even the most objective explorer would be unable to avoid talking about the people of the places he's visiting and the society which is allowing him to make natural discoveries. Like if the guy went to the arctic or the Sahara, he must have talked about how he got there and by whose graces he was undertaking his exploration. Even if it was just an encyclopedia, a compiling of information, it would talk about what the world was like beyond just nature alone. But none of that was in the book, because Isayama hadn't thought of it yet.
Mikasa didn’t even break away from Eren cause Eren is literally the person who encouraged her to hill him and if they say “well she said she wouldn’t forget him which is what Eren told her to do” in 139 we find out that Eren doesn’t want Mikasa to move on or forget him so like she literally doesn’t break away from him at all
do people not realize ymir was not in paths for 2000 years she was more likely in paths for millions of years... She literally make 1000 titans and it only take a point of a second in aot time LOL
@@wakey-vk5jk eremin should have happened!!! they should have kissed in paths!!! their faces as they looked at each other conveyed more love than eremika did throughout the entire series
Bro invaderz said he’s gonna show us evidence on screen of why his points make sense then proceeds to say he’s gonna be summary guy… like what 🤣🤡. This is why high school teachers and professors in colleges say “Don’t simply summarize” in their questions for students to answer on paper
Wasn't Ymir the one to make the titan bodies?! Then who made those when Ymir was seen on the top of the founder?! Explain Isayama.. now don't make Eren say he doesn't know.. 😂
If he really wanted her to go this route he should have made her get her autonomy back and change her past wiping the ending and making it to where the hate never happened changing the future and making the world better in it's totality this ending forever garbage
@@annett5People still justify she is a well written character in season 4 by telling all of her fight scenes and saving Eren and other people in S1 and S3 which could be given to Levi or other minor npc soldier characters,some may die from protecting Eren but I don't think it's a big deal the story can still go on even without her character, She is still irrelevant to the plot I don't remember Mikasa having any connections and relations or build up why Ymir choose her over other characters which are namely Historia, Zeke, Armin, Reiner and maybe Levi through the story It was only stated that Ymir choose her because she was sending brain waves that causes Mikasa headaches that was only stated in the finale that was never shown nor develop in the beginning of the story. Genocide is bad I agree , I won't mind Mikasa winning but the ending glorify and showcase her obsession and unhealthy relationship with Eren as true love that sets Ymir free after 2000 yrs of SIMPING for King Frits of the horrible things that he did with Ymir, destroyed and killed her hometown and people, treated her like a slave, use her as target practice, Raped her, protected him and see's her as a slave till death and make her daughters eat her chop and disfigured corpse and she never smiled whenever Fritz is around, if anything he made her life misrable. Why does founder Ymir give Eren the power? If she is against genocide in the first place? He was the one who inspired her and gave her the will to make her own decisions and yet it was MIKASA all along, so she just want to see a kiss from a Yandere Overpowered Mary Sue Asian to kiss her decapitated step brother head? Mikasa is still obssed in death with Eren tho so why choose her over other characters? Did Ymir even cared about Fritz more than her daughters? Is she on humanity, genocide or extinction of there race and when does Ymir develop ed romantic feeling s to fritz? I guess we will never know?
@@annett5I do agree she should have died during that time atleast she was still decent and had agency as a character till death if She died in season 1
@@annett5 there were conflicts tho for her character in season 4, the azumabito clan, Ackerman blood slave curse or whatever, Sasha's death, Eren changes and Louise but.... It all went nowhere. Honestly I think It would have been a better ending if Mikasa did not kiss the head and stayed and joined Armin peace treaty talk with the Marley after the war because realistically I think atleast one of the Marley soldier would ask proof if they really killed Eren since they're Eldians and to assure they are against genocide and to believe there with humanity and world peace. That's is where Eren head comes from to showcase the proof, Mikasa will be the one holding it and will join Armin convincing them. Edit: 😓Wait I forget I think she really needs to be there because I think people would shoot at Armin because he was also part of attacking on Marley that killed a lot of people.
@@lahcenchahrouri about how she should’ve kept making titans. I already knew mikasa freeing Ymir made no sense cause she didn’t let go, I didn’t think of what it meant for Ymir following that through lol
@@Sm64wiiExactly. Some dude on Reddit told me that she can kill him but respect his memory. I’m like bruh that doesn’t match with the parallel that isayama was intending to create between Ymir and mikasa. So in the end Ymir somehow completely forgot about fritz while mikasa held onto her scarf lol. Would have made sense for Ymir to keep creating titans BUT YOU KNOW ISAYAMA RAN INTO A BRAIN BLOCK. He realized “oh… how am I gonna end the curse if I’m consistent with my writing. Oh no 😭.” This is what went thru his head bruh 🤣🤦🏻. I’m so done with these people defending this horseshit inconsistent writing.
Hey saint..... I enjoy watching your videos Would you like to share how accordingto you should the story would have gone after chapter 123 (since after that it was a downhill except chapter 131) You have shared it in multiple videos.... I would like to see it all in one place Regardless.... Keep up the good work man
i love how this is you reacting to the video but also you skipping most of the video and the way you somehow reached to the conclusion to the title of the video is baffling and an ignorant person who believes that whatever which he says is right invaderzz clearly said that it was not only mikasa but eren and armin also helped🤦♂
my guy understand the story dumbass why did ymir brought armin into the paths to begin with why did ymir helped armin in bringing the past shifters to help the alliance? understand the story first or if your brain is small watch some other anime@@annett5
@@AM17titanThose are excellent questions that have no real answer. Did Ymir want Armin to convince her about human nature and life? Maybe. Was this concept well executed? No. Is there much supporting evidence? No. Is it headcanon? Yes.
@@r.k845 yes ymir wanted something out of armin that was the fucking reason she swallowed armin in the first place and brought him to the paths The conversation with zeke convinced ymir to help with past shifters LOL Tell me why ymir was randomly in the scenes with ramzi being crushed and then during the final alliance battle ? It was the reason mentioned above Ik you might be hater of invaderzz But he explained fully WITH EVIDENCES about ymir in his recent video titled ‘The final mystery of aot ‘
Invaders original video “eren is not free” or whatever made so many good points that actually made the cannon ending make sense. And I still dislike the cannon ending, but this Ymir video was kinda reaching for quite a bit.
imo invaderzz's eren video is one of the worst analysis i have ever seen half of it is him waffling and recapping while the other half is bad interpretations
So saint if ymir stopped the Rumbling there and there wouldnt have robbed eren of his freedom? I guess by giving armin the ability to resist and fight for their cause ymir wanted to see what would they do using their own freedom to go against Eren's own sense of freedom. Had she stopped the rumbling the moment she understood armin's side it would have been unfair for eren who was seeking the same thing.
Armin didn’t fight for freedom, though. He literally was trying to stop Eren because he was committing genocide. And Eren was never free. You are making excuses for a literal god, Ymir. She had every power to make any ending she wanted. This story wants you to believe this was the only way, when Isayama told us it was the only way. He wanted genocide, he wanted death to be the key to “freedom”, he wanted an 80% rumbling to lead to Paradis’s annihilation to suggest Eren should’ve killed everyone.
Isayama used a manipulative technique by destroying the island 1000 years later and that it seems like it is a sad ending. But the main cast lived there lives happy and giving candy .so rumbling 80 percent of the world is not enough to nuke the island immediately. They hated em for 2000 years !!!!
20:30 Yes, her connection with Fritz is through obeying him, but also through having the twisted affection towards him. Eren managed to free her, meaning she no longer would subjugate herself to the will of the royal blood. Armin showed her that human lives really did have some value. And Mikasa really did reevaluate her relationship with Eren, which also multiple characters did during the show, but Mikasa's case was special because by killing Eren, she saw that cutting ties with the ones they both had affection for was possible. Yes, Mikasa still loved Eren, but just like Mikasa tells Ymir in the end, her affection was nothing but a long nightmare, while Mikasa's was pure and genuine. Thats why Ymir was set free, while Mikasa was left sobbing under the tree, but who the hell wouldn't. It would take much time for her to cope with her loss. And one question, I might have missed it in the story. Where does it say that Ymir can see the future without any limits, just curious.
Well I mean Ymir is the first one to possess the founding powers so she probably uses these powers to see the events in the paths since it transcends time? It makes sense if you ask me.
@@TheoVad well it actually does, but as far as I know we don't really know the extent of her powers in this regard. This is why I'd like to think that she didn't see the future all the way, because the whole story makes zero sense in that case. I'd much rather think that something makes sense when the writing and context give me the chance to and not hate it when I don't understand something.
She spent 2,000 years coming to the conclusion that she didn’t have to be a dead human’s slave no longer? I’m sorry, that’s literally against human nature. Human beings even who have gone through trauma and slavery still have agency of themselves. That’s why some slaves in the southern US attempted to run away from their masters. It’s humiliating to slaves that they are nothing but obsessed with their masters without fail. History has taught us not only do slave’s resist through culture, but they sometimes even rebelled literally due to their sense of agency and even desire for freedom. It’s ironically sad Isayama wants us to believe Eren had such a desire for freedom he would kill his own mother but Ymir would still have a sense of loyalty to a mere mortal for 2,000 years….2,000 while the whole time literally having every ability in the world to not only move on from her trauma, but change the face of the earth and bend human reality according to her will.
Saint do me a favor and please explain how Eren and Historia were canon when just like Mikasa Eren never once thought about Historia or cried over her whenever he was in a life or death sitaution. When did he show romatic interest in either of those women?
its mostly the fact that both of those characters would be more likely to be romantic interests BECAUSE of the problems both characters go through specifcally shown in season 3. Roughly by the end of the first half of S3, both characters can relate to one another. In contrast to Mikasa who eren cant really relate to because Mikasa pretty much gets 0 character development after the first 4-5 episodes of the first season. That's why
He always made sure that Historia was absolutely safe, which he did for NO one EVER before, he told Historia that he would run away and abandon everything together with her if she wanted to and it seemed to be a pretty obvious planned Plot Twist that he is the father. It was in fact so obvious that it was more of a Plot Twist to know that the farmer actually was the father. The way the twp understood each other and talked to each other, such a deep and meaningful relationship, and what definitely makes it romantic is that Eren told her they could run away together.
@@jimmyinfamous9664 Pretty much was tbh, you can already see the roots being set in place. If Isayama suddenly decided that humanity outside the walls actually died and changed the whole later plot line because of that, then the Basement reveal would not add up. That's exactly what happens in the ending because Erehisu was retconned. Even if everything else was as planned and Eren returned home, it would seem pretty odd that he'd have no one waiting for him. I can't imagine a good ending without Erehisu.
Why do all the ending haters seem to want to ruin the show for people who enjoyed the ending? Like, I get it, you didn’t like it. Why spread the hate around? I’m sorry you didn’t like the ending, but it’s just an opinion. Every opinion on this story is subjective, no side is objectively correct. The only reason I’m still even leaving a few comments on this guy’s videos is because I’m amazed how bitter his followers are.
Because if the ending isn't criticized, other mangakas and script writers will repeat Isayama's mistakes And the ending is objectively bad, narratively, thematically and logically It would take much less time to explain why it's good than to prove why it's not
@@annett5 there is criticism and then there is outright hatred and bitterness. Criticism is fine, but obsessively claiming others are stupid for liking it is another thing entirely
people are seriously saying that that those who found criticism with the ending are crazy and never provided their proof and ideas ... this is to prevent people from saying shit like this
@@goshingbot01 he's been doing it for years now. There comes a time when you need to realize that this isn't gonna achieve anything and just move on. It ain't that deep
thats a figure of speech, if I like a certain food but my buddy doesn't so I call him crazy, thats the equivalent to what they're doing, like it's not up for debate it's just saying you really liked the ending and taking that sort of stuff seriously is pathetic@@goshingbot01
@@crayyx he kept doing It for this exact reason ... People that think the ending is perfect are now trying to spin it to anime onlies as if people that had problems with it where just emotional crybabies while there are ton of arguments
Nah saints will keep going and iam glad he will because this ending Needs to be Cooked to the End of Time even when the better alternative fan respectful continuity ANR is complete
"If you're not good at writing romance, then DON'T WRITE ROMANCE!!" *- saintitchief*
Actually Isayama is really good at writing romance. Really REALLY good. Erehisu was perfect man
@@julietx0x0he kinda forgot
@@annett5 lmao
@@julietx0x0 GOT the reference?😏
@@julietx0x0 erehisu would definitely be one of the best(-written) couples in manga/anime history
And here Isayama talked about how he didn’t like it when girls were only important because of their romantic attachments.
I$aliar
Tell me pls when he said that. I need to know
@@annett5 I misremembered it a bit. He said, “It is quite generic that a heroine is usually a woman who motivates a man. However, I don’t really like that way of thinking. There was a time when my head actually filled up with the idea of Mikasa turning that kind of character development around. That is the reason that she became a strong woman who excels in combat.”
I found it in a reddit post which was a collection of Isayama interviews, but they didn’t cite the source. I’d link you to the reddit post but TH-cam doesn’t allow links in comments.
thank you isayama... you contradicted yourself for our sake...
@@mst3kharris thanks
I was wondering why my comments got deleted... Scr*w yo*tube
Farmer-kun is now the king of freaking paradis😂 congratulations! The ending we deserved!💪
😃😃😃🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The Farmer is a Chad he bullied Historia throw rocks at her called her horrible names and became King of the Walls!
You just got to live Isayama writing women.
"Mikasa probably wanted a kiss"
-Isayama, 2021
"I was hoping armin would find some solutions to war"
Isayama
@@wakey-vk5jkthat was such a dumb statement. Like, dude, you created Armin, he doesn't exist and can't think for himself. YOU are the writer who should come with a solution, not the fictional character you created 😂😂😂
@@lordvastor98”like I was created by my manga creator I probably coulda came up with something else.”
Armin: Why didn’t I think of that??
@@justsomeguy6336because visiting and talking to a rock is much more important😂
“Eren is back”
Isayama
Some of people on the comments said "you gotta let it go" like wtf man, if you feel like you okay with the ending then what are u doing here?
"just shut up and consume product" is what they are all saying.
@@CKER-cl8in no, we are saying stop crying about it and move on
@@billyred889consume product, don’t critique ever, just consume then consume the next product, then the next
You do know all these people that are critiquing are also consuming product after product right?
@@justinmeniru3663 keep consuming brother it’s okay
A story about Freedom turned out to be a Fanfic about Love lol
Hey now THATS SINS OF THE FATHER THEME which became the more interesting deeper plot here that unfortunately got thrown out by the End
F yams man is a A@@s Clown
@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003 You're right!! These people won't ask questions they would just consume even if it makes no sense... but if you ask any questions they will hit you with the "You Didn't Understand The Story" and "The Ending Is Perfect " when it's been retconned to death .... I'm they sure don't even remember what happened in S1 to S3 properly.. The assassination of characters, story and the themes are just mind boggling 👌
People who defend this trash rom-com of an ending are the ultimate Clowns Surpassing Isayama himself
@@megha_228 totally man absolutely it’s pathetic how this fans Don’t think or even ask themselves is this reallly what the creator wanted with everything that was built up through the series LOL bunch of mindless sheep with no brains but just CONSUME 🤪 don’t question and remember DETERMINATION shut up don’t question it Determination lol 😂
Remember when man said “ I AM SPECIAL BECAUSE I WAS BORN INTO THIS WORLD.” Now he’s saying “mikasa finding another man? I DONT WANT THAT!” Isayama really forgot the theme of his own story lol
@ismiboy he needs to re-read and re-watch it.. Isayama ruined everything I liked about this Series..
Mikasa wasn't a real character. She was a plot device that always protected Eren.
Real, never a story relevant character. At least Armin played great roles until s3.
@spike.07 Ending defender make it seem she was a compelling character or that eren and mikasa have a relationship when it was mostly one sided thing by mikasa side.
@@kyordannydelvalle523Exactly throughout all the seasons the only time Eren expressed any time of love to Mikasa was season 2 episode 12 but after that it seems isayama just decided to pretend that didn't happen.
@@spike.07did we not watch season 1?? Her story was definitely relevant to push a certain narrative
It's sad how the roles were reversed and now it's Eren who only exists to support Mikasa
Honestly if the ending made you scratch your head then you probably noticing retcons and holes in the road. Theres no shame in criticizing this bs.
well as you can see the majority dont scratch their head because theres nothing inside. They just blindly consume.
Go back and rewatch/reread the entire series. The retcons are so noticeable.
The ENDING should make you scratch your head about the whole damn show from chapter 1 to now
@@Vortex_ICEcold agreed
@@AlexStarOfStarWars that's why we always never lose to EDs because they only rely on pseudo intellectual takes.
This is 40 minutes of 80% recap and 20% head canon, classic Invaderzz 💀
And the redditors are gonna eat it up I promise you
bro yaps for so long and says so little
yeah ur def the reason they had to include the "Im a slave to freedom" line
Lmafo 🤣🤣😂
I like how his entire channel is based on hating the ending
Straight giga Chad ❤
Just think about it: Isayama managed to create a silent character, with ZERO dialogue and ZERO monologue but still explore her backstory, struggles, suffering, mystery around her motivation, set such amazing parallels between her, the mc, historia, freckled Ymir, zeke and frieda only through her emotions and actions, symbolism and visuals, he connected it with aot's themes and its lore. He managed to write THIS... so she, ymir fritz, got to be destroyed by 3 gd lines ("only Ymir knows...", "ymir loved the king fritz" and "she was waiting for mikasa")
Just... why? WTH? FOR WHAT?
Where do I begin? Well, her love for the king... Firstly, no way it's Stockholm syndrome as this shit works differently. So, no. Secondly, even if she loved the king, WHEN did she start to develop feelings for him? Before freeing the pigs? After their marriage? After getting pregnant? When? Thirdly, WHY does she have affection for fritz? He ruined her life in every way, he abused her physically and mentally, he did the same to their children but she... Uh, ok, let's see (as if we can). It's clearly shown in 122 she hated her life with him. But fine, if she loved him, why did she disobey him by freeing the pigs and not regenerating? Why didn't she smile or wasn't happy when he was around? Why did she want him dead instead of her and regreted not letting fritz die? If she regretted this whole time, doesn't it mean she already put herself and her daughters above her husband so the titan curse could end sooner?
Now, ymir and mikasa... Their connection has NO buildup. It's never hinted at something common between these two throughout the entire show. The Ackerman's headaches had no allusion to the goddess. So why her? What about this woman made fritz choose mika? The fact she was an Ackerman? Or the person who was able to kill the love of her life? Um, couldn't ymir find someone else, like, sooner, 282 years ago FE, among millions of people, within 2000 years? Or it's because mika killed the founder when it separated from the hallucigenia? How does mikasa know her headaches are caused by ymir messing with her head if eren didn't tell her about that? Who knows, who cares...
Why even show so many well-written parallels between ymir fritz, eren, historia and freckled ymir if they have no payoff? Why does Ymir find herself in mikasa but not historia whom she has much more in common with? Historia is a better version of her, so why not wait for reiss? For what reason does she pick a girl with no dignity, self-respect and ability to move on or grow up? How are her relationship with fritz and eremika bond even similar? Eren didn't treat mikasa the way fritz treated his wife. Eren saved and freed mikasa, that assh*le enslaved and turned his woman's life into a nightmare. The mc and the king are completely different just like mika and ymir. What'd she do if mikasa suddenly changed her mind and didn't kill eren? Wait for 2000 years for someone again? How can mikasa help her move on from the king if she herself didn't move on from eren?
Next, if Ymir was the one to make titans in paths, who made her titan? Was the hallucigenia a separate organism or was it connected to fritz after giving her titan powers? If it wasn't connected to her, then why did it disappear instead of trying to find a holder? Why was it trying to find one at first but vanished after Eren's death? So the founder's death affects it? Then the hallucigenia should have died when Ymir died. But they're not connected, are they? Or the opposite? Ugh... Why did the founder split into 9 titans? Why not 6 or 27 or 3 if she had 3 daughters? If maria, rosa and shina were able to get their mom's power at the same time, does that mean both erwin and armin could eat bertholdt and become shifters together? And if these 3 ate the founder, shouldn't every descendant of the royal family possess it? Whose child inherited the founder? Rosa's? Maria's? Shina's? Or all simultaneously but after that it split into 9 titans? How did fritz know about the way of passing titan powers to new holders? Was Ymir dead when he fed her to their daughters? If she was, then her power should have been given to a newborn eldian. If she wasn't, then she let the king chop her into pieces and saw her daughters eat her? Is that even possible to stay alive after getting dismembered so many times? If she can rewrite her people's dna, that means she can lengthen their lifetime or make them invulnerable or immortal? Can she provide them with armor appearing out of their bodies or weapons out of the air? Or just stop them from turning into titans? About paths... I refuse to talk about how they work. It'd take one more paragraph
Additionally, whose side is Ymir on throughout the story? On fritz's, who planned to build Eldian empire? Or on Zeke's and Karl's who wished to end this empire's existence and wanted her descendants to die? Or on Eren's who tried to save some of them? Is she with mikasa who stopped eren from doing it? Or is she with the alliance who did everything in their power to save the rest of humanity on the continent? Or is she on the royal family's side? WHOM does she obey? Or is it just going with the flow of events? If that's the case, then how can she wait for mikasa? But if it's still for witnessing mika murdering eren, then why does she listen to zeke when eren enters paths? By this logic, she should join the mc right away to see him get killed as soon as possible. Why does she join eren at first and start the rumbling with yeager but then help the alliance defeat him? Why'd she do that to someone who made her moved to tears for the first time after 2000 years of suffering, who told her she's just a person, not a slave or a god, that she gets to decide and choose? Why are we told in the final mikasa saved her if eren already did that? Did she need help twice? If the mc wasn't the one to free her, how could she disobey zeke? Is eren her liberator or pawn? If a liberator, why didn't she tell him what tf she wanted or write shit on the sand, anything? If a pawn, why make a show "at your service, mr zeke" and weep after Eren's speech? Did eren and she even need zeke's royal blood after the rumbling started? Yes and no?
Also, what exactly made titans disappear? Eren's death, his refusal to live, the fact the hallucigenia separated from the mc, fritz seeing the kiss? What? Ymir's desire to stop? So you mean to tell me she wanted them to exist? She could refuse to make them anytime? Are you kidding me?
Why did she smile at the end of ch 138? Because eren got killed or because the goddess saw the kiss? What were those scenes with her watching everyone during the rumbling all about?
To think that for more than 100000+- years (if we take into account time in paths moves slower) she created MILLIONS of titans when shifters transformed and when eldians turned into them (dozens times a day), healed her descendants (once again, dozens times a day), changed or erased their memories, rewrote their dna, made shit from crystals, walked millions of kilometers to build titans, carried many-many pails with water and sand, climbed high to make enormous arms, heads, necks etc... for TWO THOUSAND YEARS she made her children and their children suffer, made the world endure, helped the mc start GENOCIDE, watched millions of people die and kill each other, witnessed her people eat one another and so on just because she COULDN'T MOVE ON FROM HER ABUSER! Do you realize how absurd and unrealistic it sounds?
What else should I say... Saintitchief is right: either she's the dumbest or the most despicable person ever. Either her plotline is retconned at the last moment or the author just didn't think it out properly (which is so unlikely if you remember the 1st episode's name). Or after all, maybe, just maybe, she was the true aot villain all along, not a victim as we thought. We were just ignorant to see it or didn't want to notice. Tmm, Ymir's character gained the worst conclusion in snk, even worse than eren as we didn't even get to know about her motivation. It remained a mystery because "only she knows...". Her arc was so unresolved and so underdeveloped. What was isayama even thinking?
Damn man. You should write a book.
@@kokroughtoss1257it could contain essays about all destroyed aot characters or why the ending sucks😅 would take 2837733892+ pages. Name: how to not end stories
What was Isayama thinking?? He wasn't thinking at all
Man I'm sooo satisfied ❤ everytime i discover isiyama ruined everything.. thanks man... I just want to know if you know about the paths anything you could write about it here I'm waiting for you
damn I'm not reading all of that But I agree with you. I actually took a ss of this to read it later. It took 7 screen shots
Bruh Zeke needed to re-evaluate his desire for his dads approval. He was right there giving Ymir the order to end the curse. Dumb af
He göne l fell sorry for him
Looking at the flashbacks with her always being showed with her eyes CLOSED, no fucking body can tell me she didnt get woken up by Eren and chose violence. Seeing her eyes for the FIRST time with that expression, at the time i knew it was GG for the world. There was never any confusion there, all the Mikasa being the chosen one is certainly contrived nonsense
If the most you have for a romance in 139 chapters and 90+ episodes is two people blushing, making said romance not only the focal point of the finale but the entire series is downright laughable. Mikasa never moved on from Eren because her character is defined by nothing else. She has no aspirations, dreams, or personal interests. Every facet of her character revolves around Eren. This only makes it all the more unbelievable when she is the focal point of Attack on Titan. How is it that in 2000 years, Ymir never found the answer she sought, but instead, it was Mikasa she was waiting for? This is exaggerated by the fact that time moves exponentially slower in Paths. Ymir has near omnipotence, able to see the memories of all Eldians. The suspension of disbelief is beyond shattered. Not to mention the fact that Ymir can see future memories. I agree with Saint that Ymir's character would've been better served as an antagonist, the true ruler of the Eldian Empire. This truly allies her with Eren's goal. Even more interestly, gives her purpose, creating the titans in paths, furthering the lives of her children, and arming them. She would be fighting for the freedom of her children as Eren is fighting for the freedom of Paradis. This, along with determinism, are my biggest critiques of the finale, and ultimately, they ruin the series as a whole.
Pretty cool idea
They show that Mikasa dies of old age with Eren’s scarf around her neck, she never got over him. So what did Ymir learn from Mikasa exactly? Only Ymir knows.
Maybe this would over complicate it but I feel like there should’ve been two Ymir’s, it makes no sense that Ymir is serving the eldian empire but she makes titans that literally are used by Marley to build their empire. I dont know if a second Ymir would fix it but I can’t get pass ymir serving king Fritz yet she build titans the armoured and female Titan that goes on to kill a fuck ton of eldians.
Mikasa was the only aot character that could not exists and nothing would have changed (insane for a mc)
Even freaking kaya played more role than mikasa did
@@annett5 fr at least in the manga she had a bit more depth
@@julietx0x0 didn't matter in the end
@@annett5no i mean that in all the anime she's annoying af, literally no excuses, they cut some scenes of the manga that made her look a bit better. But still the worst character of the show
@@julietx0x0 agreed. However, for me personally in the manga she's still a bad character (spoiler: Mikasa's the worst-written heroine I've ever seen. Even sakura is not as bad as her). And I think she's a psycho
Mikasa’s character honestly makes me feel so upset. The groundwork for her character was literary perfection. She was more than capable of growing into her own identity free from Eren, and maybe everything else. She in a way was like Annie. The only difference was her growth would be more impactful because oh how much of an influence Eren was on her life…but she never grows past Eren. Killing Eren is not moving on from him, or helps define her as a unique character apart from Eren. In fact, she is forever tied to Eren at that point. The way she embraces Eren’s head, crosses an ocean to bury him, and continues to latch onto the scarf Eren gave her just makes her a temple built to honor Eren. Eren is the beginning and ending of all her faux glory, which there is none. She does nothing in the story that is unique or builds a force or expression not only unique to herself, but has an influence of affect on the story. Eren even tells her he hates her because she’s just a lap dog, and he’s not wrong. She lives to serve Eren emotionally and physically; from protecting him from bullying/violence to comforting him when she sees he is alone and in distress. That’s it. That’s all she ever is and becomes in the end. With Eren;s death, she still honors his memory for zero justification. I truly despise how people suggest “they were close, of course she would remember him”. Eren is a genocidal murderer. He slaughtered millions of babies. He is truly evil. Why would anyone with their own agency and sense of values bother remembering someone like that? The final goodbye should’ve been Mikasa lopping Eren’s head off. I would’ve accepted at least the excuse that her killing Eren was her moving on. Alas, it never happens. A truly promising character with tens years of build amounting to nothing but a beacon for another character that was written poorly.
Yes l like Annie more then her too me
I agree with you abut Eren andmikasa
I wishe she sill badass tho her life is Hard he so mean to her ritht
I still have no idea why tf mikasa didn't end up hating eren in the end. It would've been the peak of her character development. Imagine her loving him so deeply in the first season and starting to despise him for all the things he did in season 4:
- abandoned his friends for 10 months without saying a word,
- didn't tell them anything about his plans or the future he saw, in other words, didn't trust her or someone else,
- manipulated them, so they attacked liberio,
- killed a lot of innocent people and took war hammer away. This action destroyed the options for negotiations between paradis and the world,
- endangered them in liberio having caused sasha's death + jean could've been killed by pieck or gabi
- secretly came up with the wine plan, got rid of pixis and the rest having turned them into pure titans + was indirectly responsible for Levi's injury
- organized the explosion she barely survived in,
- said he had always hated her and punched armin multiple times,
- locked them in prison,
- mentioned wanting the scarf to be thrown away,
- endangered them in shiganshina (reiner, porco, pieck, the marleyan soldiers, pure titans, walls destruction),
- formed the organization responsible for chaos on paradis without armin or her knowing,
- made them fight him and the Yeagerists during the rumbling,
- killed hange
- left his friends without titan powers and the walls which were the only way to defend paradis and them,
- and of course DID THE RUMBLING that destroyed 4/5 of the whole world, hundreds of cities and cultures, millions of memories, lives, dreams, plants, animals, for no god damn reason
How, HOW can she have feelings for him after all of this crap? Is she an insensible cardboard box? AOT's female lead, with so much screentime, the strongest paradis soldier (after Levi having got hurt), is like THAT? With no freaking development? Or exploration? Or the impact on the story and its characters? What the actual fu*k?
@@annett5 did mikasa move on by marrying other dude or john?
This guy is gonna go to Japan, hunt down Isayama and pressure him to write a better ending.
Doesn’t have to. AoTNR is already doing that
@@DL500316 this is so dumb aotNR is the biggest piece of shit ive ever seen they idiots claimed they fixing the ending they gonna have no fans and support after anime finished. So dumb they want Eren to kill all his friends make it make sense pls
Release the Synder Cut!!!!
@@askingalex2319it does make sense. Eren wants to be free from the people trying to kill him outside the island. And he achieves it but at the cost of his friends. It’s a good tragic outcome
@@DL500316 and the whole world lives peacefully for generations to come, nah war still happens bro and would happen in your AoTNR world which means Eren killed his friends lives for nothing now at least his friends generation and a few after get to be free and fine to inevitably another conflict starts and war starts again.
Also if you haven't noticed, AnR is releasing their 4 part. And they are finally accepting help in their project to be finished faster. Peak is coming back 💪
When?
@@Ecodude-cw7kg they said about this end of month maybe, but they announced on twitter.
@@mooncrow2447 alright thanks
Anr ? Isn’t that the ending where EREN is hisu’s child’s father and do 100% rumbling and whatever based on the song of linked horizon ?😂
Its more worse than og ending lol
@@superstarrajin4337 how is it worse?
I am highly appreciated by your crusade Good sir. When I watched the ending I knew it didn't feel right. My brother and I have been having debates in wether or not it was good, and you helped me realize just HOW MANY flaws there are... Mikasa is a nothing bullshit character that should've never been written in the first place, and Eren should have had the freedom to choose the rumbling to protect his people. Hell, that's not even taking into account that Eren didn't even finish the rumbling, told us he wanted Mikasa to kill him, and said she, yes HER DUMBASS was the goddamn main character. Even if a lot of my feelings on the ending are skewed I stand by that opinion
Yes where is his freedom to keep moving why he give up
The amount of head-canon is unreal
Invaderzz yapping skills are insane
His video is mostly recap
29:20 I think one of the biggest indicators that Isayama never planned any of this is the biggest plot device in the series - Armin's book. When the outside world was revealed and the true history of the world told to us, it should have then become apparent that the book would undoubtedly have references to the Eldian Empire and the power of the Titans they commanded inside it, as even the most objective explorer would be unable to avoid talking about the people of the places he's visiting and the society which is allowing him to make natural discoveries. Like if the guy went to the arctic or the Sahara, he must have talked about how he got there and by whose graces he was undertaking his exploration. Even if it was just an encyclopedia, a compiling of information, it would talk about what the world was like beyond just nature alone.
But none of that was in the book, because Isayama hadn't thought of it yet.
Damn, that never went thought my head, you're right.
this man invaderzzz did zero analysis he dead ass just read the panels and said the most basic information.
Mikasa didn’t even break away from Eren cause Eren is literally the person who encouraged her to hill him and if they say “well she said she wouldn’t forget him which is what Eren told her to do” in 139 we find out that Eren doesn’t want Mikasa to move on or forget him so like she literally doesn’t break away from him at all
Jesus: My child will understand that the ending was retconned
Satan: EREN PLANNED IT FROM THE START BECAUSE HE'S STUPID
do people not realize ymir was not in paths for 2000 years she was more likely in paths for millions of years... She literally make 1000 titans and it only take a point of a second in aot time LOL
Yes your ritht if she help hee kids tho
This guy always spits facts 😂😂
I ship some girls with Eren more than I ship Mikasa with Eren.
eren and armin are more shippable than eren and mikasa, definitely have more chemistry at least
Eren had more chemistry with Historia than Mikasa.
Ending haters : You never understood the story 😭
what in the world possibly made you think that? @@spike.07
@@wakey-vk5jkeven eren and reiner are more shippable
@@wakey-vk5jk eremin should have happened!!!
they should have kissed in paths!!!
their faces as they looked at each other conveyed more love than eremika did throughout the entire series
Bro invaderz said he’s gonna show us evidence on screen of why his points make sense then proceeds to say he’s gonna be summary guy… like what 🤣🤡. This is why high school teachers and professors in colleges say “Don’t simply summarize” in their questions for students to answer on paper
10:10 "the battle gave Ymir a chance to observe the actions or Armin closer"
*Watches Armin sucking tentacles*
Saint trying not to skip ahead every five seconds
But Mikasa had no character 🤔
Seriously, she was as bland as milquetoast
ymir really does suck
Annie more badass then her she cool
In 2000 yearssss, Ymir found no one but Mikasa, huhhh?!
Wasn't Ymir the one to make the titan bodies?! Then who made those when Ymir was seen on the top of the founder?! Explain Isayama.. now don't make Eren say he doesn't know.. 😂
saintitucheefu san droppingu anaza certifiedu banga
senstiseshef* get it right next time sket
If he really wanted her to go this route he should have made her get her autonomy back and change her past wiping the ending and making it to where the hate never happened changing the future and making the world better in it's totality this ending forever garbage
Eren Didn't killed 80% humans it was yimir 😂
Trost arc Mikasa>>>
should have died back then. Would have been an OK character
@@annett5People still justify she is a well written character in season 4 by telling all of her fight scenes and saving Eren and other people in S1 and S3 which could be given to Levi or other minor npc soldier characters,some may die from protecting Eren but I don't think it's a big deal the story can still go on even without her character, She is still irrelevant to the plot
I don't remember Mikasa having any connections and relations or build up why Ymir choose her over other characters which are namely Historia, Zeke, Armin, Reiner and maybe Levi through the story
It was only stated that Ymir choose her because she was sending brain waves that causes Mikasa headaches that was only stated in the finale that was never shown nor develop in the beginning of the story.
Genocide is bad I agree , I won't mind Mikasa winning but the ending glorify and showcase her obsession and unhealthy relationship with Eren as true love that sets Ymir free after 2000 yrs of SIMPING for King Frits of the horrible things that he did with Ymir, destroyed and killed her hometown and people, treated her like a slave, use her as target practice, Raped her, protected him and see's her as a slave till death and make her daughters eat her chop and disfigured corpse and she never smiled whenever Fritz is around, if anything he made her life misrable.
Why does founder Ymir give Eren the power? If she is against genocide in the first place? He was the one who inspired her and gave her the will to make her own decisions and yet it was MIKASA all along, so she just want to see a kiss from a Yandere Overpowered Mary Sue Asian to kiss her decapitated step brother head? Mikasa is still obssed in death with Eren tho so why choose her over other characters? Did Ymir even cared about Fritz more than her daughters? Is she on humanity, genocide or extinction of there race and when does Ymir develop ed romantic feeling s to fritz? I guess we will never know?
@@annett5I do agree she should have died during that time atleast she was still decent and had agency as a character till death if She died in season 1
@@JebonmcfilCompetente I would understand if she moved on from eren back then and there were new conflicts for her but that didn't happen
@@annett5 there were conflicts tho for her character in season 4, the azumabito clan, Ackerman blood slave curse or whatever, Sasha's death, Eren changes and Louise but.... It all went nowhere.
Honestly I think It would have been a better ending if Mikasa did not kiss the head and stayed and joined Armin peace treaty talk with the Marley after the war because realistically I think atleast one of the Marley soldier would ask proof if they really killed Eren since they're Eldians and to assure they are against genocide and to believe there with humanity and world peace. That's is where Eren head comes from to showcase the proof, Mikasa will be the one holding it and will join Armin convincing them.
Edit: 😓Wait I forget
I think she really needs to be there because I think people would shoot at Armin because he was also part of attacking on Marley that killed a lot of people.
Not Ymir was All-Team Slave 😭
31:25 bro 😭 I’ve never thought ab that
About keep loving fritez??
About keep loving fritez??
@@lahcenchahrouri about how she should’ve kept making titans. I already knew mikasa freeing Ymir made no sense cause she didn’t let go, I didn’t think of what it meant for Ymir following that through lol
@@Sm64wii true
@@Sm64wiiExactly. Some dude on Reddit told me that she can kill him but respect his memory. I’m like bruh that doesn’t match with the parallel that isayama was intending to create between Ymir and mikasa. So in the end Ymir somehow completely forgot about fritz while mikasa held onto her scarf lol. Would have made sense for Ymir to keep creating titans BUT YOU KNOW ISAYAMA RAN INTO A BRAIN BLOCK. He realized “oh… how am I gonna end the curse if I’m consistent with my writing. Oh no 😭.” This is what went thru his head bruh 🤣🤦🏻. I’m so done with these people defending this horseshit inconsistent writing.
Hey saint..... I enjoy watching your videos
Would you like to share how accordingto you should the story would have gone after chapter 123 (since after that it was a downhill except chapter 131)
You have shared it in multiple videos.... I would like to see it all in one place
Regardless.... Keep up the good work man
He's gonna make sure that his final aot video will have all the information he needs it to have
i love how this is you reacting to the video but also you skipping most of the video
and the way you somehow reached to the conclusion to the title of the video is baffling and an ignorant person who believes that whatever which he says is right
invaderzz clearly said that it was not only mikasa but eren and armin also helped🤦♂
Armin didn't help Ymir, neither mikasa. These are a headcanon and a retcon
my guy understand the story dumbass
why did ymir brought armin into the paths to begin with why did ymir helped armin in bringing the past shifters to help the alliance? understand the story first or if your brain is small watch some other anime@@annett5
@@AM17titanThose are excellent questions that have no real answer.
Did Ymir want Armin to convince her about human nature and life? Maybe. Was this concept well executed? No. Is there much supporting evidence? No.
Is it headcanon? Yes.
@@r.k845 yes ymir wanted something out of armin that was the fucking reason she swallowed armin in the first place and brought him to the paths
The conversation with zeke convinced ymir to help with past shifters LOL
Tell me why ymir was randomly in the scenes with ramzi being crushed and then during the final alliance battle ?
It was the reason mentioned above
Ik you might be hater of invaderzz
But he explained fully WITH EVIDENCES about ymir in his recent video titled
‘The final mystery of aot ‘
Man... this guy can't let go like ymir love for king fritz 😂😂😂 I hope it doesn't stay for 2000 years 😅😅
stay mad
10 years at least
Saint will we ever get to see your reaction to the finale?
Is that necessary
Invaders original video “eren is not free” or whatever made so many good points that actually made the cannon ending make sense. And I still dislike the cannon ending, but this Ymir video was kinda reaching for quite a bit.
imo invaderzz's eren video is one of the worst analysis i have ever seen
half of it is him waffling and recapping while the other half is bad interpretations
So saint if ymir stopped the Rumbling there and there wouldnt have robbed eren of his freedom? I guess by giving armin the ability to resist and fight for their cause ymir wanted to see what would they do using their own freedom to go against Eren's own sense of freedom. Had she stopped the rumbling the moment she understood armin's side it would have been unfair for eren who was seeking the same thing.
Armin didn’t fight for freedom, though. He literally was trying to stop Eren because he was committing genocide. And Eren was never free. You are making excuses for a literal god, Ymir. She had every power to make any ending she wanted. This story wants you to believe this was the only way, when Isayama told us it was the only way. He wanted genocide, he wanted death to be the key to “freedom”, he wanted an 80% rumbling to lead to Paradis’s annihilation to suggest Eren should’ve killed everyone.
Isayama used a manipulative technique by destroying the island 1000 years later and that it seems like it is a sad ending. But the main cast lived there lives happy and giving candy .so rumbling 80 percent of the world is not enough to nuke the island immediately. They hated em for 2000 years !!!!
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20:30 Yes, her connection with Fritz is through obeying him, but also through having the twisted affection towards him. Eren managed to free her, meaning she no longer would subjugate herself to the will of the royal blood. Armin showed her that human lives really did have some value. And Mikasa really did reevaluate her relationship with Eren, which also multiple characters did during the show, but Mikasa's case was special because by killing Eren, she saw that cutting ties with the ones they both had affection for was possible. Yes, Mikasa still loved Eren, but just like Mikasa tells Ymir in the end, her affection was nothing but a long nightmare, while Mikasa's was pure and genuine. Thats why Ymir was set free, while Mikasa was left sobbing under the tree, but who the hell wouldn't. It would take much time for her to cope with her loss. And one question, I might have missed it in the story. Where does it say that Ymir can see the future without any limits, just curious.
Well I mean Ymir is the first one to possess the founding powers so she probably uses these powers to see the events in the paths since it transcends time? It makes sense if you ask me.
@@TheoVad well it actually does, but as far as I know we don't really know the extent of her powers in this regard. This is why I'd like to think that she didn't see the future all the way, because the whole story makes zero sense in that case. I'd much rather think that something makes sense when the writing and context give me the chance to and not hate it when I don't understand something.
@@tsverokiller7773 True and also what I'd like to know the most is how does a life form have supernatural powers.
@@TheoVad You are digging way down with this one. Biology or physics don't have to work the same way in a fictional world
She spent 2,000 years coming to the conclusion that she didn’t have to be a dead human’s slave no longer? I’m sorry, that’s literally against human nature. Human beings even who have gone through trauma and slavery still have agency of themselves. That’s why some slaves in the southern US attempted to run away from their masters. It’s humiliating to slaves that they are nothing but obsessed with their masters without fail. History has taught us not only do slave’s resist through culture, but they sometimes even rebelled literally due to their sense of agency and even desire for freedom. It’s ironically sad Isayama wants us to believe Eren had such a desire for freedom he would kill his own mother but Ymir would still have a sense of loyalty to a mere mortal for 2,000 years….2,000 while the whole time literally having every ability in the world to not only move on from her trauma, but change the face of the earth and bend human reality according to her will.
Ya’ll need to stop trying to ruin it for everyone. It won’t get ruined, but it’s annoying to keep seeing this over and over again. Move on fr
Finally some common sense
You're in his comment section demanding he stops talking about your favorite show, pretty pathetic.
How is he ruining it for you? You're the one who came here.
This is pathetic. He was as invested as you are.
@@r.k845 No one likes a complainer. just move on :)
Saint do me a favor and please explain how Eren and Historia were canon when just like Mikasa Eren never once thought about Historia or cried over her whenever he was in a life or death sitaution. When did he show romatic interest in either of those women?
its mostly the fact that both of those characters would be more likely to be romantic interests BECAUSE of the problems both characters go through specifcally shown in season 3. Roughly by the end of the first half of S3, both characters can relate to one another. In contrast to Mikasa who eren cant really relate to because Mikasa pretty much gets 0 character development after the first 4-5 episodes of the first season. That's why
Who said it was canon?
Eren crying over anyone because he can't be with them is against his character. If he cried ab historia it would still be bad
He always made sure that Historia was absolutely safe, which he did for NO one EVER before, he told Historia that he would run away and abandon everything together with her if she wanted to and it seemed to be a pretty obvious planned Plot Twist that he is the father. It was in fact so obvious that it was more of a Plot Twist to know that the farmer actually was the father. The way the twp understood each other and talked to each other, such a deep and meaningful relationship, and what definitely makes it romantic is that Eren told her they could run away together.
@@jimmyinfamous9664 Pretty much was tbh, you can already see the roots being set in place. If Isayama suddenly decided that humanity outside the walls actually died and changed the whole later plot line because of that, then the Basement reveal would not add up. That's exactly what happens in the ending because Erehisu was retconned. Even if everything else was as planned and Eren returned home, it would seem pretty odd that he'd have no one waiting for him. I can't imagine a good ending without Erehisu.
Why do all the ending haters seem to want to ruin the show for people who enjoyed the ending?
Like, I get it, you didn’t like it. Why spread the hate around? I’m sorry you didn’t like the ending, but it’s just an opinion.
Every opinion on this story is subjective, no side is objectively correct.
The only reason I’m still even leaving a few comments on this guy’s videos is because I’m amazed how bitter his followers are.
Because if the ending isn't criticized, other mangakas and script writers will repeat Isayama's mistakes
And the ending is objectively bad, narratively, thematically and logically
It would take much less time to explain why it's good than to prove why it's not
It's objectively bad and it objectively ruins characters and the plot.
Just as you are allowed to express positive opinions, we are allowed to express negative ones. Deal with it.
@@annett5 there is criticism and then there is outright hatred and bitterness. Criticism is fine, but obsessively claiming others are stupid for liking it is another thing entirely
@@bigbosss7911 that’s your opinion, it’s got 8.7/10 on Imdb so clearly it’s not objectively perceived as bad
y u so obsessed dawg just let it go it aint gon be rewritten with a different ending hop off the tip
people are seriously saying that that those who found criticism with the ending are crazy and never provided their proof and ideas ... this is to prevent people from saying shit like this
@@goshingbot01 he's been doing it for years now. There comes a time when you need to realize that this isn't gonna achieve anything and just move on. It ain't that deep
thats a figure of speech, if I like a certain food but my buddy doesn't so I call him crazy, thats the equivalent to what they're doing, like it's not up for debate it's just saying you really liked the ending and taking that sort of stuff seriously is pathetic@@goshingbot01
= hence why they're not providing any proof and ideas (they don't need to because it's a figure of speech)
@@crayyx he kept doing It for this exact reason ... People that think the ending is perfect are now trying to spin it to anime onlies as if people that had problems with it where just emotional crybabies while there are ton of arguments
Bro you gotta let it go 😂😂
Why? Your life depends on it?
No, let him cook.
So you can't cook them? Then every media is 10/10.
Nah saints will keep going and iam glad he will because this ending Needs to be Cooked to the End of Time even when the better alternative fan respectful continuity ANR is complete