Really enjoyed this as my last name is Crippen. I waited till the end to see if you included the update of the tests proving the corpse in the basement wasn’t his wife. You didn’t disappoint me!
Dr. Crippen should have never married his second wife considering they were so different. Pity his first wife died his life would have been a lot different. Thanks Brief Case.
Good point, but he also made that choice to remarry. Although divorce was a more scandalous event difficult decision back in the day, I'm thinking that there might have been a better solution than murder. Only my opinion. Good wishes.
Histrions generally make for lousy partners. They tend to be unauthentic, prodigal, frivolous and unfaithful. It's not without reason, that Roman civilization regarded actors with contempt. That being said, this doesn't justify how Crippen killed and butchered her. I see a common thread again: two people from different worlds, living different lifestyles, having nothing in common, yet marrying. If the doctor didn't rush to find a second wife, he'd certainly have lived a long and happy conjugal life with someone as devoted as Ethel.
Great story telling. 'Thunderstruck' is a book about this event. It is quite good, and highlights how important the invention of wireless radio was for these ships to communicate and cooperate in the capture of Crippen.
Thanks so much, Brief Case! I had heard of Dr. Crippen but didn’t know the particulars. I didn’t even know he was an American! For such an intelligent man, he didn’t have a lot of common sense. How could he think no one would care about his wife’s absence? Also, having his mistress move in and wear his wife’s jewelry was stupid in the extreme! If he would have just gotten rid of the torso the cops couldn’t have proved anything!
The chase on the high sea's was very interesting to me. Imagine their surprise when they got off to the boat to find a London policeman there to arrest them.
No. It was covered in lime which corroded the skin. The scar that was found would have been laying on the ground so the lime didn't burn it off. He should have poured some in the hole before he tossed the body in. Or just dismember and dispose of the torso in small pieces
My question is why go to all the effort of removing the head and limbs and then leave the torso. Which would arguably be the easiest part to cut into pieces, a human leg would be hard to cut off I bet, and isn't exactly small.
@@maveryk Scars are not just skin deep. They extend into the muscles and fascia as well. So even if the skin was corroded, they could have still made out the scar from the underlying tissue
The last two details about the DNA preserved, suddenly don't make this seem so cut and dried! I have heard this story many times before, but your version has some great pictures and details i have not heard before! Great job as usual !
It's possible that the women didn't want to care for someone else's child, as apparently, none of them had kids... I'm thinking tho, he just never wanted the responisbility.
Men still do that sh#% today! Give there kid/s to the grandparents to raise! The trauma they must feel, in not losing one parent but both of them! Never mind if they lose both there parents! The family then won't take them in, sending them away to become industry slaves!
there was another story I heard about, these two sisters who after their fathers death, the mother sent them to a nunnery. until she realized that the older of the two girls wanted to join the nunnery then she ripped both of them to have them work as maids and other people's houses to get her money. eventually the two sisters ended up working in the same household and ultimately murdered the owners of the house they were working in. I'm sure it does psychologically scar children especially without that parental love.
It's both cool and creepy to realize my Grandparents were alive when some of these cases happened. I was only 5 when the mistress died. Funny how history isn't that far away.
Crippen's barrister was the famous defence lawyer Edward Marshall Hall. The BBC did a drama series on his cases a few years ago called "Shadow of the noose". According to the dramatisation Marshall Hall's defense was that Crippen had bought the drug not to poison his wife but to sedate her so he and his mistress could spend an evening in the house undisturbed. He would usually go in to her room to check she was asleep but on one occasion she did not wake up the next day and was dead. Crippen panicked and disposed of the body. If the defence was successful the verdict could have been reduced to manslaughter and the death penalty avoided. However the jury was not swayed by this argument . There is an interesting scene in the dramatisation where Marshall Hall's junior barrister argues with him that Crippen should take the stand to put forward his version of events. Marshall Hall was against it as the prosecution barrister was one of the best cross examiners in England at the time and Marshall Hall thought that he would destroy his client's testimony. In any event we will never know if the outcome would have been different if Crippen had taken the stand.
Another great case! I really like how you almost exclusively post stories in which the murderers are caught and convicted. It’s reassuring. Also, even those these stories are all about murder, and sometimes even a little graphic, they almost never feel scary at all. Thank you BC!
@@nancymontgomery8897 no doubt that the torso had rotted beyond any way to reasonably identify sex or organs, etc. If they could have dug in to the remains for an autopsy, don't you think they would have? The torso was probably useless to them except for that "patch of skin" with the scar on it. Or at least so they thought...
Never tire of hearing about this case. Fascinating in its details especially in the use of wireless, then a very new innovation. Keep the cases coming Brief Case! Love them 😀
Bloody daylight savings got me again! I've been checking my internet connection for the last hour trying not to have a panic attack 🥴🤦♀️ Monday = Brief Case 💚
The only way for those who have done wrong to 'get a way with it..' is to confess, request absolution & remain in solitude. Not employed or in the wilderness or Civilization as instinct denotes. Hence slaughter-housing of any sort being the initial warning that corruption or perversity at all has occurred.......usually due to cannibalization or incest in particular.
It is entirely possible that she left him for some other man and he lied saying she had died hoping to marry again. Then even if he could track her down she might've refused to identify herself so they left to Canada hoping they could be married there... As they let rooms they were not the only ones with access right? Just a thought because it's often noted how easy it was to get away with crimes before DNA testing, but it also would be pretty easy to get railroaded. I don't know one way or the other obviously...
Crippen's living relatives have petitioned to have his case reviewed and want to locate his body and have it exhumed and moved to the USA to be buried in the family plot.
I'm extremely intrigued with 18th, 19th and EARLY 20th century murders and/or disappearances. Hindsight is 20/20 and listening to the facts now, years later, after we have all this technology and the depth of our understanding with crimes like this.. It's just very intriguing seeing how things were done even just a century ago- let alone a couple centuries ago. EDIT: So happy I found this channel! Thank you for the videos! I'm in a deep dive bingeing mode before I leave for work😂
Also from Colorado here! So nice to know there's more than one person in the state who's a true crime/history buff! As far as the fire goes, the smoke is killing me! Hope the snow helps us, it might as well do something other than cause pileups for once lol ;)
BC thanks for the great stories. My only sadness is I haven't been able to listen to the stories every Monday like before. I have actually gotten other friends interested in your stories and like me they love the stories you tell and like me they love the details and at times the intensity of them. Again Thanks BC you're pretty awesome ☺️
Had me a bit worried this morning when it wasn't uploaded at 7 but better late than never. Gotta have my Monday morning fix of Brief Case!! A really good case this morning. Very interesting with the different theories. Thanks so much as always!! 😊 😊
this is the first time that I have heard of her indiscretions and her extravagances. very much clears up a great deal for me. thanks for another great case!
Thank you, Brief. It's a testament to your skills that I watched this one. It's a case that I, like many many others, think I know we'll, and I usually no longer bother with productions about it. However, I knew you'd have good info, and a nice way of conveying it. And was not disappointed, so, as usual, kudos. PS..off topic, but...that hat!!
It is very unusual for a female to not have any sign of breasts. I do not know how they could think that torso was a female. A very intriguing case. Thank you for sharing ♥♥♥
Heard this story before but I so LOVE old stories it was great hearing it again.. Very interesting story BC thanks for including the information and their son
I've heard of this one before but you mentioned several things I didn't know. I always look forward to your latest crime story. I just love the very interesting victorian era. Thank you!!
Great job on this case, BC, I didn't realize they had both lived so long! Lots of details and great photographs, this was a particularly good video 👍💕 Thanks for making Monday mornings interesting :-) Take care and stay safe!
I remember hearing this story a long time ago, but you have alot more details and I never heard there was any doubt about the body being his wife before. I don't think his child was even mentioned. What if he wasn't the murderer but it was one of those men. Very interesting.
Another solid video from BC. I have always wondered if: 1) Belle pulled a "Gone Girl" on Crippen 2) If she didn't (or did?), how fortunate it was that Belle had friends who raised the alarm as quickly as they did and that the police took it seriously. If anyone is interested in true crime/history, you should try Erik Larson's books. What's neat about his style of writing is that he does a dual/parallel subject narrative, almost like a "famous vs infamous" person. The book he did on this case is called "Thunderstruck"-He writes about what was going on with Crippen (infamous) vs what was going on around the same time in the life of Guglielmo Marconi (famous), the man who pioneered the radio telegraph system... PS If you read the book, you'll see the irony of the choice of pairing these two together as the subjects .
@@ifor20got well, I was an hour early and started to worry when I didn't see the new video drop... Luckily Crime Reel was kind enough to remind me it was daylight savings for GB before I started sending out a search party for BC.😂😂 How are things with you?
Thank you for having close captions/subtitles. Watched the whole thing without them and couldn't tell you anything about this guy. Second time through being able to read along and my lawds. Keep it up!!
@@BriefCaseOfficial I look forward to your videos every Monday! However sometimes l cant watch until l get home from work! Today is a late in day so l get to watch early! Yeahhhh! Thanks Again Sir! Always great content!!!
I used to have an uncle (now long dead) who was a Freemason. Once, while visiting a Masonic lodge in London, he met a guy who was probably the Oldest Member--I think this was back in the 1950s--who had actually known Crippen and his wife in former days. According to my uncle, this old guy said that Crippen was “the nicest fellow you could hope to meet. But oh, that awful WIFE of his! She NEEDED murdering, she did!” There are several stories about Crippen's wife. She was born in Brooklyn, but her father was a Russian Pole, and her birth name was not "Cora Turner,” but--get this!--"Kunigunde Mackamotzki”! How's that for a name? She always had loose morals, and allegedly as young as seventeen was living as the kept mistress of a married stove manufacturer. She was a self-indulgent golddigger who exploited Dr. Crippen for expensive clothes and jewelry in an attempt to pursue a singing career for which she no talent whatsoever. Meanwhile she treated her husband like a lackey, making him do all the housework although she herself brought in no income. During the Music Hall Strike of 1907, London theaters were picketed by variety artists discouraging strike breakers from entering to perform there. There is a story that Belle Elmore (Cora Crippen) was one of those strike breakers taking advantage of a rare opportunity to perform in the absence of anyone better. When the pickets tried to stop her, the famous Marie Lloyd, who was with them, urged them to “let her through anyway. She’ll empty the house in no time!”
Thank You, Brief Case, Excellent🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟, as ALWAYS! What a Horrifying way to be found!! The ending Totally suprised me! Where is Cora, and What could have happened?? Very Disturbing! And his Mistress, had to know! I can't Believe she was acquitted!!! Crippen must have really been head over heels in love! Stay well! See you, in the Next Brief Case!
Another great video!! ☺😍 I've seen videos about this case before and I think it's sad how Dr. Crippen felt he had no choice but to kill Cora. But it was a different age and divorce was frowned upon. I really appreciate the care that you put into the videos you make. Thank you for all of your hard work ☺
I have a theory about the torso in the coal cellar. Bearing in mind that there were no limbs or head found and the fact that medical cadavers were still hard to come by in the early 20th century, it is possible that Crippen was offering underground anatomy tutoring to medical students. He wasn't allowed to practice medicine but still had a wealth of knowledge and experience. His wife had expensive tastes as well, so it could be possible that he was earning a bit on the side by offering anatomy lessons in his cellar. This niche in the black market was actually fairly common (look at the number of body parts found in Benjamin Franklin's basement in France). If he was doing dissections it would explain the body being wrapped up and covered in quicklime. And if this were the case, Ethel may very well have had no idea it was there. And depending on the laws regarding grave robbers at the time, he may have considered the risk in telling the truth at his trial to be too high. It may have meant having to reveal student names, the universities involved, how he got the body, and maybe even being accused of murdering that one too. It certainly would have been a huge scandal at the very least. It still begs the question what happened to his wife tho. Did she run off? Did he actually kill her too and hid her body somewhere else? Whatever the case, it definitely would have been interesting to see just how deep the rabbit hole really goes.🤔😯😳😬🤯🕵🏻♀️
That's a great theory and would make a good story! Ironically the quicklime preserved an operation scar the wife had, so the bit of skin was identified as the wife's.
@@lazyhomebody1356 not necessarily. Research shows that Cora's scar was from an ovaryectomy. It could easily have been mistaken for an appendectomy scar. From a body badly damaged by quicklime it would be near impossible to be able to say conclusively what the scar was from. There is also the theory that the "scar" was actually nothing but a folded piece of skin and not a scar at all. And finally, mitochondrial DNA taken from the torso did not match any of Cora Crippen's surviving family members. Whether or not you chose to dispute the claim that the torso was really that of a man, there is more than enough evidence to call into question the conclusion that the body in the cellar was Cora Crippen's.
@@meemurthelemur4811 I believe Crippen was innocent. That his mistress overdosed the wife with sleeping medicine (they admitted they used to drug the wife to have some "alone time") So the body doesn't have to be Cora's. The theory that it was an illegal medschool cadaver--!!! But were did Cora go?? I love that we'll probably never be sure
@@lazyhomebody1356 idk. Like I said, it's just a theory based on what I could find. They may very well have over drugged her, but we'll probably never know. Wanna slide down the rabbit hole a little deeper? What if they did kill her, by accident or not, and decided to use her torso for an underground dissecting class? Might as well make the best of a bad situation, eh?
Why do they use her first and last name together throughout the whole telling of the story and not like normal introducing her with it then dropping one or the other!?
@ΑγαΡy well, I guess BC and TCR can rest secure in the knowledge that if anything ever happens to them we'll all be alerting authorities and organizing search parties within an hour of a missed video drop!!😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🕵🏻♀️👮🏻♀️💂🏻♀️🦸♀️🚓🚒🚑☎️🖲🔎🔬
I believe so. I know a case inspired by the Crippen case was mentioned and is a big part of the plot for Mrs. McGinty’s Dead and this case apparently was mentioned in another Hercule Poirot story.
Classic. I always wondered why this murder became so famous. There was probably a lot more killings around the same time. I think that it was his name and his picture, both so creepy. Stay safe. ❤️
Every time I see a new BC I am right here@!
Thankyou :)
Me too.
Same
Ok ok so im a little late 😥
@@akioseigi8186 😊
Hope his son had a good childhood with his grandparents and made a nice life for himself, despite his father's notoriety. Thanks, BC!
@Nicky L interesting thanks!
@Nicky L Thank you!
@Stella Sophia stop scamming people. Reported
@Nicky L yes i read it, it was very sad. Kids be aware that you can break your parents Hearts from your actions!
Dr. Crippen be trippin'
I’m so mad at myself for laughing at this 😂
@@EddVCR couldn't help it either 😒😂
Hey you made laugh
For a moment I thought it was: rippen'
Crippen liked his women strippen
Really enjoyed this as my last name is Crippen. I waited till the end to see if you included the update of the tests proving the corpse in the basement wasn’t his wife. You didn’t disappoint me!
are you related?
Whole new meaning to “Crip Walk”
Dude looks like Eddie Murphy when he dressed up like a white guy.
😂😂😂
haha..That SNL sketch.
Maybe he was passing for black.
It would be so much better if he looked like a low key snoop and had the name Dr. Crippen.
That's exactly what I thought too🤣
Why do I root for the bad guys when they are being chased? I want them to be punished but the chase makes me root for their getaway.
I think you watched too many gacella documentaries when younger. Or too few cheetah ones
Remember fellas, even if you're innocent never gift your ex's things to the rebound chick.
I’ve always wondered why the rebound girl never seems to consider *her* things being passed on to the next in line.
Lol
Especially the engagement ring.
@@gusargoan !!! lol
Agreed. I don’t think anyone likes to receive hand me downs from their partners ex 🥴
Dr. Crippen should have never married his second wife considering they were so different.
Pity his first wife died his life would have been a lot different.
Thanks Brief Case.
Good point, but he also made that choice to remarry.
Although divorce was a more scandalous event difficult decision back in the day, I'm thinking that there might have been a better solution than murder.
Only my opinion.
Good wishes.
Histrions generally make for lousy partners. They tend to be unauthentic, prodigal, frivolous and unfaithful. It's not without reason, that Roman civilization regarded actors with contempt. That being said, this doesn't justify how Crippen killed and butchered her. I see a common thread again: two people from different worlds, living different lifestyles, having nothing in common, yet marrying. If the doctor didn't rush to find a second wife, he'd certainly have lived a long and happy conjugal life with someone as devoted as Ethel.
Yep. "Opposites attract" my ass
@@lon242 my old psych teacher said he hated that phrase lol he said "opposites divorce"
He probably killed his first wife too, though.
Dr. Crippen is like the coolest name for a killer...
I hope he wore nothing but the color blue like a Crip gang member
Totally agree cool name
Dr. Crippen is the person responsible for the end of the world in the American Hollywood Movie : I Am Legend. 🤔
Sounds like the name of a Bond villain?
@@bristal1000The original one? Been awhile since I've seen it.
Poor Harvy so close and yet so far , let that be a lesson to all never marry a overbearing spouse
So this was the edwardian version of a high speed chase! Fascinating. Great narration as usual!
Thankyou :)
Great story telling. 'Thunderstruck' is a book about this event. It is quite good, and highlights how important the invention of wireless radio was for these ships to communicate and cooperate in the capture of Crippen.
Do you know the author? I tried looking it up but cannot find it.
@@mindylance73 Erik Larsen.
Thank you
Thanks so much, Brief Case! I had heard of Dr. Crippen but didn’t know the particulars. I didn’t even know he was an American! For such an intelligent man, he didn’t have a lot of common sense. How could he think no one would care about his wife’s absence? Also, having his mistress move in and wear his wife’s jewelry was stupid in the extreme! If he would have just gotten rid of the torso the cops couldn’t have proved anything!
The chase on the high sea's was very interesting to me. Imagine their surprise when they got off to the boat to find a London policeman there to arrest them.
Anyone else wonder how much 'torso' was left that no one could identify as male or female?
No. It was covered in lime which corroded the skin. The scar that was found would have been laying on the ground so the lime didn't burn it off. He should have poured some in the hole before he tossed the body in. Or just dismember and dispose of the torso in small pieces
My question is why go to all the effort of removing the head and limbs and then leave the torso. Which would arguably be the easiest part to cut into pieces, a human leg would be hard to cut off I bet, and isn't exactly small.
Well there were no bones, so...
@@maveryk Scars are not just skin deep. They extend into the muscles and fascia as well. So even if the skin was corroded, they could have still made out the scar from the underlying tissue
@@wrongturnVfor what if it was even more corroded tho
The last two details about the DNA preserved, suddenly don't make this seem so cut and dried! I have heard this story many times before, but your version has some great pictures and details i have not heard before! Great job as usual !
Thanks
perhaps we should get my son now that I'm no longer alone with a small child. these people never went back for their own kids
Thats what I was thinking 😬
It's possible that the women didn't want to care for someone else's child, as apparently, none of them had kids...
I'm thinking tho, he just never wanted the responisbility.
Men still do that sh#% today! Give there kid/s to the grandparents to raise! The trauma they must feel, in not losing one parent but both of them! Never mind if they lose both there parents! The family then won't take them in, sending them away to become industry slaves!
@@nosphosfer Sad but true 😔
there was another story I heard about, these two sisters who after their fathers death, the mother sent them to a nunnery. until she realized that the older of the two girls wanted to join the nunnery then she ripped both of them to have them work as maids and other people's houses to get her money. eventually the two sisters ended up working in the same household and ultimately murdered the owners of the house they were working in. I'm sure it does psychologically scar children especially without that parental love.
It's both cool and creepy to realize my Grandparents were alive when some of these cases happened. I was only 5 when the mistress died. Funny how history isn't that far away.
My mother was negative 8
Crippen's barrister was the famous defence lawyer Edward Marshall Hall. The BBC did a drama series on his cases a few years ago called "Shadow of the noose". According to the dramatisation Marshall Hall's defense was that Crippen had bought the drug not to poison his wife but to sedate her so he and his mistress could spend an evening in the house undisturbed. He would usually go in to her room to check she was asleep but on one occasion she did not wake up the next day and was dead. Crippen panicked and disposed of the body. If the defence was successful the verdict could have been reduced to manslaughter and the death penalty avoided. However the jury was not swayed by this argument . There is an interesting scene in the dramatisation where Marshall Hall's junior barrister argues with him that Crippen should take the stand to put forward his version of events. Marshall Hall was against it as the prosecution barrister was one of the best cross examiners in England at the time and Marshall Hall thought that he would destroy his client's testimony. In any event we will never know if the outcome would have been different if Crippen had taken the stand.
Another great case! I really like how you almost exclusively post stories in which the murderers are caught and convicted. It’s reassuring. Also, even those these stories are all about murder, and sometimes even a little graphic, they almost never feel scary at all. Thank you BC!
Great video again BC - The old pictures of London are superb
Hi Crimey! Thanks for the reassurance that we wouldn't be hearing a story on BriefCase any time soon 😂😉👋🕷👻
@@meemurthelemur4811 Hi Meemur, yes all is good and daylight savings time was the only reason lol
It’s weird that they couldn’t tell whether the torso was a male or female, especially looking at the photo of his wife.
Cora's photo would be useless unless she was photographed topless to reveal moles or other peculiarities. The torso had no head.
@@nancymontgomery8897 But surely an autopsy would reveal female organs if it were her...this is assuming that the torso was cut above the groin area.
@@1928jazz I was thinking the same.
@@nancymontgomery8897 no doubt that the torso had rotted beyond any way to reasonably identify sex or organs, etc. If they could have dug in to the remains for an autopsy, don't you think they would have? The torso was probably useless to them except for that "patch of skin" with the scar on it. Or at least so they thought...
@@karina-oh7826 Right. That's pretty much the point I made.
A most interesting story. I had never heard of it before.
Omg! A new brief case! Yay! I have been watching your videos like crazy these last few weeks. You are truly so talented at what you do!
Thank you so much :)
Never tire of hearing about this case. Fascinating in its details especially in the use of wireless, then a very new innovation. Keep the cases coming Brief Case! Love them 😀
Thankyou :)
Me neither. I find it very intresting!
Bloody daylight savings got me again! I've been checking my internet connection for the last hour trying not to have a panic attack 🥴🤦♀️
Monday = Brief Case 💚
I commented to CR, ready to have a heart attack 😂🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@@meemurthelemur4811 well I'm a little less embarrassed now thanks Meemur 😂
Btw, G'day! 🦋🦜🦄🦘🐨👋
@@meemurthelemur4811 g'day matey 🦘👋
@Rico Lee g'day Tricky 🇦🇺 how's things?
I'm always amazed at how sloppy these murders are. Not that I've ever thought it through...😉
Great to have this to wake up to BC💚
How's tricks in Alaska?
Xxx
Because most of them are not devious, it just happens unplanned. And first timers are always sloppy 🤔😆
Insanity = loss
The only way for those who have done wrong to 'get a way with it..' is to confess, request absolution & remain in solitude. Not employed or in the wilderness or Civilization as instinct denotes. Hence slaughter-housing of any sort being the initial warning that corruption or perversity at all has occurred.......usually due to cannibalization or incest in particular.
I think that he killed one of his wife's lovers, whose torso was in the cellar, and that she indeed married another man
what about the pj top the body was in it was a ltd comp in 1909 that means the body is his wife and they found poison in the body 🤔 he killed her
Infamous man! You are knocking it outta the park, BriefCase thank you so much. Morning BriefCase Family! 😉
Thankyou so much :)
Hi Lisette!🤗👋🦄💐🦋👻
@@meemurthelemur4811 Hi Meemur!
Hi Lisette!
From Caroline in Melbourne.
It is entirely possible that she left him for some other man and he lied saying she had died hoping to marry again. Then even if he could track her down she might've refused to identify herself so they left to Canada hoping they could be married there... As they let rooms they were not the only ones with access right? Just a thought because it's often noted how easy it was to get away with crimes before DNA testing, but it also would be pretty easy to get railroaded. I don't know one way or the other obviously...
Still strange to flee if he had nothing to hide. Someone could have planted the body there but they didn’t force the couple to take off.
Crippen's living relatives have petitioned to have his case reviewed and want to locate his body and have it exhumed and moved to the USA to be buried in the family plot.
I'm extremely intrigued with 18th, 19th and EARLY 20th century murders and/or disappearances. Hindsight is 20/20 and listening to the facts now, years later, after we have all this technology and the depth of our understanding with crimes like this.. It's just very intriguing seeing how things were done even just a century ago- let alone a couple centuries ago.
EDIT: So happy I found this channel! Thank you for the videos! I'm in a deep dive bingeing mode before I leave for work😂
Thanks Emily
I keep hearing Ethel and Eve 😂😩 her name is nice though.
TICAL METHOD 😂😂😂
It's Ethel Le Neve, not Ethel and Eve.....
Read this before I got to the part of her introduction and now that’s all I can hear also!!! Lmfao
@@ControlAltDella hahah it’s almost like the laurel and yannie thing
@@shirleyschork1504 it’s a joke dummy
We got over a foot of snow last night BC. But I'm from from Colorado and we're on fire. Fun year.
Thank you for being here.
It certainly has been a strange one. I'm in Pennsylvania and my mother's lilac bush is blooming!🤯
Stay safe out there!
Holy Moly, I know it's a HUGE country but.....
Stay safe Xxx
Also from Colorado here! So nice to know there's more than one person in the state who's a true crime/history buff! As far as the fire goes, the smoke is killing me! Hope the snow helps us, it might as well do something other than cause pileups for once lol ;)
BC thanks for the great stories. My only sadness is I haven't been able to listen to the stories every Monday like before. I have actually gotten other friends interested in your stories and like me they love the stories you tell and like me they love the details and at times the intensity of them. Again Thanks BC you're pretty awesome ☺️
AHHHHH I've been waiting for you to do this one!!! Every older horror or suspense story I read seems to mention it in passing. Thank you for this!!!
Legend has it he had the coldest C-walk you've ever seen.
Back in that day 11 years her senior was not unheard of by any means.
Happy Monday Casers
YES...This case is so intriguing .
Had me a bit worried this morning when it wasn't uploaded at 7 but better late than never. Gotta have my Monday morning fix of Brief Case!! A really good case this morning. Very interesting with the different theories. Thanks so much as always!! 😊 😊
Thanks for listening :)
It's daylight savings for Britain. I was worried too... thankfully Crime Reel helped set me straight 😂👻
@@meemurthelemur4811 yeah I watch Crime Reel also. Lots of good stories there too. 😊
Third!! OMG I love these these stories. Cant get enough of them. Thank you!!
Thanks for listening :)
this is the first time that I have heard of her indiscretions and her extravagances. very much clears up a great deal for me. thanks for another great case!
Thank you, Brief. It's a testament to your skills that I watched this one. It's a case that I, like many many others, think I know we'll, and I usually no longer bother with productions about it.
However, I knew you'd have good info, and a nice way of conveying it. And was not disappointed, so, as usual, kudos.
PS..off topic, but...that hat!!
Love this old story!!! Great information awesome footage. Love old photos and stories. Thanks for bringing us this lovely piece of work 👌
Thanks for watching :)
It is very unusual for a female to not have any sign of breasts. I do not know how they could think that torso was a female. A very intriguing case. Thank you for sharing ♥♥♥
Heard this story before but I so LOVE old stories it was great hearing it again.. Very interesting story BC thanks for including the information and their son
Thanks :)
I've heard of this one before but you mentioned several things I didn't know. I always look forward to your latest crime story. I just love the very interesting victorian era. Thank you!!
his name was literally ‘crippin’, how savage
Crip crip
Great job on this case, BC, I didn't realize they had both lived so long! Lots of details and great photographs, this was a particularly good video 👍💕
Thanks for making Monday mornings interesting :-) Take care and stay safe!
I remember hearing this story a long time ago, but you have alot more details and I never heard there was any doubt about the body being his wife before. I don't think his child was even mentioned. What if he wasn't the murderer but it was one of those men.
Very interesting.
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Now it's officially monday. I'm cleaning and listening to BC.
Sack the cleaning, feet up and BC for you next Monday, say I!! 👍🏼 ❤️
@@janetcw9808 the house is clean so i will listen to the good advice (I do also listen to BC while drawing :D )
Great job as always BC...You & TCR are My faves...I've heard of this one...Cheers from Texas!!!
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Never heard of this case. Another great episode Brief Case!! You should do a case from South America!!
I have done a few :)
@@BriefCaseOfficial I know, but you should consider another one I mean!! Love your channel!!
Will do - Thanks :)
Omg I was late. Thank you BC for starting my week with your intresting and hard work. 💕💕
Another solid video from BC. I have always wondered if: 1) Belle pulled a "Gone Girl" on Crippen 2) If she didn't (or did?), how fortunate it was that Belle had friends who raised the alarm as quickly as they did and that the police took it seriously.
If anyone is interested in true crime/history, you should try Erik Larson's books. What's neat about his style of writing is that he does a dual/parallel subject narrative, almost like a "famous vs infamous" person. The book he did on this case is called "Thunderstruck"-He writes about what was going on with Crippen (infamous) vs what was going on around the same time in the life of Guglielmo Marconi (famous), the man who pioneered the radio telegraph system...
PS If you read the book, you'll see the irony of the choice of pairing these two together as the subjects .
Morning BC and World. Sending Love from Arizona USA
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@@meemurthelemur4811 Thank you and a Great Morning to you today Meemur. How is your weekday starting out? Well I hope
@@ifor20got well, I was an hour early and started to worry when I didn't see the new video drop... Luckily Crime Reel was kind enough to remind me it was daylight savings for GB before I started sending out a search party for BC.😂😂
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And a good morning to you, Arizona, from Maryland 😉
Thank you for having close captions/subtitles. Watched the whole thing without them and couldn't tell you anything about this guy. Second time through being able to read along and my lawds. Keep it up!!
Interesting case. Ethel's innocense is really suspicious since she so obviously hid her identity leaving the country. Thanks for sharing, BC.
Your cases help me get through cleaning my kitchen, so thanks! Great case today.
Fascinating story. I love this channel! ❤️
Thank you so much :)
Thank you from Alaska BC! Love listening to you, even happier when I can actually watch your videos!
PS born and raised in Michigan- never heard of this case, nor anyone make the state name sound so good!
Good Afternoon Brief Case.love these old cases.the name Crippen sounds errie!! as always excellent narration.very interesting story Thank you ♥️🇬🇧
Ahhh! Another Awesome morning with the video from B.C.! WONDERFUL!🤩💥❤
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@@BriefCaseOfficial I look forward to your videos every Monday! However sometimes l cant watch until l get home from work! Today is a late in day so l get to watch early! Yeahhhh! Thanks Again Sir! Always great content!!!
Thanks brief case for another interesting video really enjoyed it 🙂 stay safe and I'll see u next week
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@@meemurthelemur4811 Hiya 🤗 a meemur x have a great day stay safe ❤️
I used to have an uncle (now long dead) who was a Freemason. Once, while visiting a Masonic lodge in London, he met a guy who was probably the Oldest Member--I think this was back in the 1950s--who had actually known Crippen and his wife in former days. According to my uncle, this old guy said that Crippen was “the nicest fellow you could hope to meet. But oh, that awful WIFE of his! She NEEDED murdering, she did!”
There are several stories about Crippen's wife. She was born in Brooklyn, but her father was a Russian Pole, and her birth name was not "Cora Turner,” but--get this!--"Kunigunde Mackamotzki”! How's that for a name? She always had loose morals, and allegedly as young as seventeen was living as the kept mistress of a married stove manufacturer. She was a self-indulgent golddigger who exploited Dr. Crippen for expensive clothes and jewelry in an attempt to pursue a singing career for which she no talent whatsoever. Meanwhile she treated her husband like a lackey, making him do all the housework although she herself brought in no income.
During the Music Hall Strike of 1907, London theaters were picketed by variety artists discouraging strike breakers from entering to perform there. There is a story that Belle Elmore (Cora Crippen) was one of those strike breakers taking advantage of a rare opportunity to perform in the absence of anyone better. When the pickets tried to stop her, the famous Marie Lloyd, who was with them, urged them to “let her through anyway. She’ll empty the house in no time!”
Right on time🙌
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Thank You, Brief Case, Excellent🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟, as ALWAYS! What a Horrifying way to be found!! The ending Totally suprised me! Where is Cora, and What could have happened?? Very Disturbing! And his Mistress, had to know! I can't Believe she was acquitted!!! Crippen must have really been head over heels in love! Stay well! See you, in the Next Brief Case!
Another excellent Monday morning mini documentary.
Thanks for listening
@@BriefCaseOfficial and thank you for creating such well researched and original content.
Another great video!! ☺😍 I've seen videos about this case before and I think it's sad how Dr. Crippen felt he had no choice but to kill Cora. But it was a different age and divorce was frowned upon. I really appreciate the care that you put into the videos you make. Thank you for all of your hard work ☺
BC made my morning once again!
How have I not heard about your channel until now? Subscribed!
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Love it looking forward to the next one
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I always love hearing your voice! Excellent narration as always and great newspaper clippings and photos. Poor man to be stuck with such a weight. :(
Love, laughter and light from Florida
Same back to you Kelly ⚘
@@katewilliams9480 same to you Kelly!!! Love from Manchester England
Seeing alerts letting me know about new Brief Case stories makes Monday's so much better.
Dr Crippen: “ Cut the Malarkey, I’m not Dave Chappelle “ 😂
Thank you for giving me a reason to look forward to Monday morning! :)
I have a theory about the torso in the coal cellar. Bearing in mind that there were no limbs or head found and the fact that medical cadavers were still hard to come by in the early 20th century, it is possible that Crippen was offering underground anatomy tutoring to medical students. He wasn't allowed to practice medicine but still had a wealth of knowledge and experience. His wife had expensive tastes as well, so it could be possible that he was earning a bit on the side by offering anatomy lessons in his cellar. This niche in the black market was actually fairly common (look at the number of body parts found in Benjamin Franklin's basement in France). If he was doing dissections it would explain the body being wrapped up and covered in quicklime. And if this were the case, Ethel may very well have had no idea it was there. And depending on the laws regarding grave robbers at the time, he may have considered the risk in telling the truth at his trial to be too high. It may have meant having to reveal student names, the universities involved, how he got the body, and maybe even being accused of murdering that one too. It certainly would have been a huge scandal at the very least.
It still begs the question what happened to his wife tho. Did she run off? Did he actually kill her too and hid her body somewhere else? Whatever the case, it definitely would have been interesting to see just how deep the rabbit hole really goes.🤔😯😳😬🤯🕵🏻♀️
That's a great theory and would make a good story! Ironically the quicklime preserved an operation scar the wife had, so the bit of skin was identified as the wife's.
@@lazyhomebody1356 not necessarily. Research shows that Cora's scar was from an ovaryectomy. It could easily have been mistaken for an appendectomy scar. From a body badly damaged by quicklime it would be near impossible to be able to say conclusively what the scar was from. There is also the theory that the "scar" was actually nothing but a folded piece of skin and not a scar at all. And finally, mitochondrial DNA taken from the torso did not match any of Cora Crippen's surviving family members. Whether or not you chose to dispute the claim that the torso was really that of a man, there is more than enough evidence to call into question the conclusion that the body in the cellar was Cora Crippen's.
@@meemurthelemur4811 I believe Crippen was innocent. That his mistress overdosed the wife with sleeping medicine (they admitted they used to drug the wife to have some "alone time") So the body doesn't have to be Cora's. The theory that it was an illegal medschool cadaver--!!! But were did Cora go?? I love that we'll probably never be sure
@@meemurthelemur4811 But! The scar was described as having a hook at the end and the scars matched exactly
@@lazyhomebody1356 idk. Like I said, it's just a theory based on what I could find. They may very well have over drugged her, but we'll probably never know.
Wanna slide down the rabbit hole a little deeper? What if they did kill her, by accident or not, and decided to use her torso for an underground dissecting class? Might as well make the best of a bad situation, eh?
Truth is spookier than fiction. Great delivery and great choice. Thanks for keeping us on the edge of our seats!😳😳
Thankyou so much
The most shocking part of this story is how there was a lady named “Ethel and Eve”
haha, it's actually Ethel Le Neve but it does sound like two names when its read aloud :)
lol!
Why do they use her first and last name together throughout the whole telling of the story and not like normal introducing her with it then dropping one or the other!?
I thought he was saying Evelyn Eve..... I don't know!!
@@isctony Haha, but Ethel and Eve is an interesting name.
Thank-you for doing this famous case. There have been films and documentaries but you doing it is extra interesting.
Anybody else show up an hour early because they forgot it's GB daylight savings?😂😂😂😂🤦🏻♀️😂😂😂
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@@meemurthelemur4811 Next Sunday here in the US - hope I remember! 😂
@@lynnhoffmann247 me too, tho if I'm late, you'll know why!😂😂
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@@meemurthelemur4811 And Forgotten Lives, too! 🤗
Excellent narration BC! Really interesting.
Thanks :)
Good Morning Brief Case.
Great video on this guy! Also, I just saw Briefcat on The Crime Reels channel! Cute kitty 😁
I assume Agatha Christie got some of her novel ideas from this case. There are many details to choose from.
I believe so. I know a case inspired by the Crippen case was mentioned and is a big part of the plot for Mrs. McGinty’s Dead and this case apparently was mentioned in another Hercule Poirot story.
@@mirandagoldstine8548 Thanks! I couldn't think of one in particular but the details seemed somewhat memorable.
Fantastic story BC! Thank you for sharing ❤️
Thanks
Larsen's "Thunderstruck" is a fascinating take on this.
Yes!!! Awesome book!!!!
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Classic. I always wondered why this murder became so famous. There was probably a lot more killings around the same time. I think that it was his name and his picture, both so creepy. Stay safe. ❤️
Sorry I'm so late, Brief Case💚! Had ti take care of somethings. Now, I can sit, and enjoy!
It just may be that old time style portraits creep me out. But I find his portrait haunting
you and me both, it always looks as if they are trapped in this dark void/abyss
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Thank you Brief Case. My best to you from Tempe Arizona USA
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