Doyoky Retro vs Nyxi Wizard GameCube JoyCons Showdown!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2024
- I compared the only two available GameCube JoyCons. The winner is clear.
Doyoky Retro GameCube JoyCons vs Nyxi Wizard GameCube JoyCons
00:00 Begin
0:28 Handle Buttons
0:45 Handles/Grip
1:01 L3 and R3
1:08 Stick Caps
1:52 Face Buttons
2:30 D-Pads
3:13 Triggers
4:44 Swapping Middle Piece
5:17 Showdown Results
6:46 Grip/Handles
9:16 Which One Should You Get? (Before I played with them for hours)
9:29 Button Comparison
13:03 In My Opinion
15:44 Ratings
17:55 Ratings
18:59 Doyoky in Consoole Mode/Handheld Mode
22:53 My Recommendation
24:48 Doyoky Turbo
26:03 Nyxi Turbo
26:18 Input Issues
29:44 If You Want the WaveBird Experience on Switch
33:29 Things to Change About Doyoky's
35:01 Things to Change About Nyxi's - เกม
Thanks for the video and detail. Stunned there aren't more comparisons on these.
I guess I'm the only one fanatical enough to bother. -shrug- Let me know if you have any specific questions that I didn't cover in the video.
The fact your the first one to do this video. Thanks man
I wish all reviews were like this, we really could save so much money.
I appreciate that. Thank you.
fr i just came out of another review that biases the fck out of one or the other for 20 minutes 😭
@@yerboibread4978 Mad unfortunate. Even when it's sent in exchange for a review, I don't get it. EasySMX sent me two controllers, and they're both overpriced. I'm not about to shill for them just to keep getting free controllers.
@@CarrotsNotCake it wasnt even the video that made me realize just how bad it was, it was in the comments where they were meat riding the doyoky to no end against honest question comments 😭
tbh i already ordered the nyxy to give my friend for christmas, i didnt know about doyoky's till after so i was tryna figure out if i made the right choice. the recipient uses it handheld more rn so it having better shapes gives me hope lmao
Thanks for the transparency. All the other reviews comparing these 2 feel like ads. Not enough detail and wishy washy.
I appreciate it. I am glad to put some good stuff out there. Nyxi has a GameCube Switch Pro controller coming out, so prepare yourself for an onslaught of videos on that.
What about the modern Wavebird from Retro Fighters comparison next?
That's a good idea. I'll definitely consider it. Thank you. I'm not a fan of the large C stick, but if it's as quality as their Duelist, then I want it!
Which one broke first? Like the quality of construction, drift, having to RMA, or warranty etc...?
Which has longer battery life?
Nyxi is the one that's all jank. Random inputs from the left joystick, triggers, and face buttons. Comically, Nyxi also feels better in the hands.
Nyxi for sure, judging by the batteries. In the teardown videos, you can see how much bigger Nyxi's batteries are. That's all for naught, though, since it's glitchy.
About the middle piece on the Doyoky, someone asked on their site and they said something in the line "this is the first batch, we'll make changes after we get feedback from the market".
So, subjectively, for the price close to official JoyCons and without hall effect joysticks (not that it bothers me much since I have those solderable drift compensating boards but still) , we get the privilege of beta-testing the controllers that'll get changed in the future and we'll have to buy a brand new controller should we want those changes.
As for the back round bumps (or whatever they're called), I can only guess that Doyoky was going for the feeling of the wired GC controller since that one had those bumps.
For me the NYXI "loses" due to the sheer thickness (it not being flush with the Switch on the back), the awful-feeling buttons, ugly button font, gimmicky LEDs, the cheap feel and poor QC (at least from posts on Reddit).
In the end, I ordered Doyoky ones because NYXI ones don't do it for me, but the price IMO could have been lower for a "first batch" (something like 55/60$ with shipping included in the price).
EDIT
Doyoki have just said on their product page that they're supposedly going to release the hall effect joystick version in the following "1 or 2 weeks".
Yeah, paying to beta test is how it works with online gaming. With like every launch, there are issues. So, why not hardware, too? Thing is, I don't think we'll see the revisions. I think that the sales will be so bad that they won't do it. And the sales are bad because they created inferior products. Nyxi having random inputs is just unacceptable, and Doyoky with the weird lump that serves no function. Nyxi got all of the attention since they released first, so the one that had horrible face buttons is what people remember, and they'll be conflated. Doyoky is a better replica, so it's a shame that Nyxi got all of the publicity.
The wired doesn't have any bump: twitter.com/CarrotsNotCake/status/1663625723599372289 They just... did it to do it, I guess? I don't think they ever played games with GameCube controllers.
I agree with all but two of those points. The flush is no bother to me; I just want my finger to rest as they do with GameCube controllers. And the feel isn't cheap. The plastic actually feels pretty great, and the shaping of the triggers is nice. Quality control is like... nonexistent, it seems. Can't be bad if it doesn't exist! But yeah, it's terrible.
I hope they revise it, but I'm doubtful that they will. Hall effect joysticks are so unneeded. Hall effect triggers would be great, though. Oh, and better face buttons. It can be perfect! I fear that they'd end up making it worse, though.
I... yeah, their release predictions were wrong for half a year, so it's safe to presume that it's not happening in a week or two.
My bad then, I thought by "bump" you meant the round bits that were meant to house the d-pad and the right joystick.
@@jeikWazTaken th-cam.com/video/uuMn-Jp9ZN8/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/uuMn-Jp9ZN8/w-d-xo.html Show that though it looks like they would hold them, they don't actually hold them. They're functionless and in the way. If they revise it, they need redo that part of the housing/shell.
@@CarrotsNotCake Yep, I saw the disassembly video you made. What I was trying to say is that my guess was that Doyoky added that just to make it resemble the wired GameCube controller (which did utilize that space).
I was merely trying to guess "why" they did what they did, which lead to this misunderstanding.
@@jeikWazTaken Gotchya.
Thank you.
My pleasure.
Hey i would like to know is their anyway to mod the small c-stick and put in a full one? the small one just doesn't feel right to me anymore so i want to mod a Doyoky and put in a bigger one. is that possible?
Certainly. If you have other controllers around that you're willing to take apart and get the stick cap off of, do that, and see if it'll fit on the Doyoky. If it does, you can order that stick cap online, and then you'll be in the clear. Or, if you're willing to sacrifice it's original use and it doesn't fit correctly, you can cut into it with an exacto to make it fit (if it's too small). I don't recommend using anything that's too big. I suppose you could use tape, or heat up the plastic and reshape it, but it's best to get something that works by default, or that's a bit small, and that you just cut away at it, see if it fits, cut away some more if it doesn't, see if it fits. Bit by bit like that, and eventually you'll have it! The next comment will have a much easier way.
Doyoky's GameCube JoyCon comes with a full size yellow cap. Just get the small C stick cap off, and put the full size one on. th-cam.com/video/bXLMUWps6qU/w-d-xo.html I had to squeeze my long fingernail under it and pry it off like that. If you have a thin enough pry tool, it should be able to get it off.
i didn't know what is the opinion of another people but i really want to say you, thanks really i want to buy some but i didn't know what i gotta buy however every body speak wonderful things about nyxi but it's something on his desing that is telling me "this is like alternative old school gamecube controller with all the lights and inecesary things" you really take your time on see both and im compleaty agree with you so i going to buy doyoky gamecube controller thanks for all 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰♥♥
Thank you. I'm glad the video was useful! Let me know what you think of the controller once you get it.
What are battery life on both?
I've used Doyoky's for four hours. I haven't used Nyxi's for more than an hour wirelessly. I think eight hours is about how long either one would run. I just don't play wirelessly for that long.
When you say NYXI software problems, what do you mean, could you name them?
For me, random inputs from buttons, and joystick doing its own thing without me touching it. Others have experienced those issues and more. Nyxi just needs to up their quality control. Some people (maybe most) get controllers that have no issues, but I've read at least fifty comments complaining about issues. Nyxi did send me a new controller that isn't doing it, but still, it shouldn't be happening at all, let alone to the degree that it happens.
@@CarrotsNotCake Thanks
they should collab
I don't think their styles would mesh.
Since I pretty much play my Switch docked 100% of the time, the Power A wireless Gamecube controller is still the best and closest thing to the OG Gamecube controller on the market.
A lot of people have complaints about it, but I do like PowerA's. It's just not a viable replacement if you want the true genuine OEM GameCube feel.
@@CarrotsNotCake Any recommendations for a 3rd Party Pro controller that has lower latency than the official Switch Pro Controller? That thing has 12ms(Tested and confirmed) more input lag than the Joy-cons, which is pretty bad in most cases. Just makes your in-game character feel a little heavier and less responsive.
@@NeonPizzas If you want as little latency as possible, wired is the way. I barely play outside of handheld, but I haven't noticed any latency with Sunwaytek's H510. It's also just such a fun controller. The mechanical face button switches, the Hall triggers; I love it. But! Terrible D-Circle thing instead of a real D-Pad. Makes it a nogo for a lot of people. Retro Fighters seems to be a good brand. I have their Duelist. If the rest of their controllers are of equal quality, I think you'll be pleased with them.