1000s Of Foreigners Are Leaving Vietnam - What's Going On? Who's Being Affected?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- Thousands of foreigners are leaving Vietnam right now and in this video we dig into the reasons why it's happening and what groups of people are being affected. Here what's covered in the video:
0:00 Introduction
0:52 Vietnam's stance on foreigners
1:49 What's changed?
3:58 Who's being affected?
4:23 1. Tourist visas since 1st March 2020
6:07 2. Tourist visas before 1st March 2020
9:00 3. Business visas from agents
12:28 4. Foreigners on legal work permits
18:05 5. New arrivals to Vietnam
19:44 Moving forward
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Very helpful thanks Sir! Still here and still working hard
Thanks for sharing the situation in Vietnam! Greetings from Koh Samui, Thailand. Just subscribed to your channel.
Mate, I’ve just seen your channel for the fire time! Good on you 😄 I follow you from now on and I’m pretty sure I’ll be visiting Vietnam on my trip! Keep the videos coming!
Thanks for this vlog; very informative!
Wow!! you are so well educated about Vietnam, thank you
Very informative on the situation on Visa for Vietnam, its greatly appreciated.
Yikes! Thanks for the update! Would love to hear about the other countries you mentioned at the end of the video.
Great, coming up!
Come to Medellin, Colombia
Thanks for the informative video upload Alex!
Glad I'm still here!
Great information.
Well explained
I am an American living in Nha Trang, Vietnam. I have lived and taught English in HCM and Hanoi area for the past 8 years. I retired in Nha Trang but still teach online. I have a temporary resident card that expires in January 2023. I plan to renew it then. I have not had a problem with immigration or the police.
Can you call and ask them that you can extend your card in online?
I would love t0 be in your shoes on the good days.
Do you pay US taxes when you work in Vietnam?
U will get food poisoning, your health is not good in the long term
Money is not important as the health
Unearned income is taxed Earned income has a tax credit goes up to about 110k. USA is one of a few countries that taxes citizens living in foreign countries.
Hopefully things will be better soon
Indeed - avideo for alternative countries would be great and helpful.
@prudence rosaldo if you fly to Turkey you will land in a migrants camp on a Greek island and you will stay there. Btw the the boat ride in night time from the Turkish mainland to the Greek island is an adventure. You'll find a better place than the EU
Bali social visa
Laos Vientianne 12 mins over bridge to Thailand for emergencies their Laos ambulance is allowed to Thailand
Fantastic accent! Thank you for your report.
I think these changes are great.
Very informative. Thanks.
Wow. This video is very lovely. This video is very important for foreigners who think of going to Vietnam. Thank you for sharing it! :)
It’s what covid is about illegal visa holders. Look at the US it’s open now why because the open border Biden opened back up. Covid started in the auS as Trump was in office because he was closing shit down and the Mexican border.
I am living in Vietnam, Vietnam has been lockdowns since May til now, as sane as prison. Checkpoints all over everywhere harassment people all the time
Thanks for the info, Alex!
I know several people who go to Ho Chi Minh for dental work and have had a problem getting back there for more dental work because of the pandemic.
Thanks for the update Alex.
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Thank you...from Japan !
Thank you Alex
Great video ,I was 11 months in 2018 in Vietnam 🇻🇳 Da Nang
I'm in Da Nang and got in the country in Feb, 2020...just got renewed and asked about next month and they said no problem. So it's crazy. Cheers from Da Nang!
What type of vista you got one i got last me fir 5 years and renewable for 100 for full year. There two type vacational vista only good for 1 to 3 months only and renewable for few extra months at time. And work vista goid for 5 years on that and 100 to renewable for 1 years or open Vista good too but you had contact the Vietnamese Embassy in California get those. Not travel agency they only do vacation vista only for 1 or 3 months. Because i been through that and lucky i apply for work vista then vacation vista i end up staying there for 2 years
Da nang is great - but basically you can only live month to month visa validity ??
@@mrmartin2079 yeah that's it for now. Plan b is heading back to Breckenridge, CO so it isn't the end of the World if I don't get renewed.
@@tomwensrich9602 Mate he's probably an English teacher lol
They would say that though, vietnamese have many redeeming qualities but forward thinking and consideration for your situation isn't one of them.
Thank u
Very interesting video. I've subbed to your channel.
Yep this situation is as clear as the waters of the Mekong. Good overview though, Alex
The Brown River
lol true 😂
@@formica. 13th¹¹111+a 13th 1
lol.. good one
@@ninja.teacher I am looking for teaching post in Vietnam. Can you please help. I am from the Philippines. Thank you.
Expelling Retirees who have been in Vietnam for the last 15 years is very unfair. It's not as if these people are going to bring Covid into the country. Plus Vietnam has enjoyed their money for 15 years.
Yeah weird
Thanx Alex, very informative and accurate !
I just heard mumble mumble wuurk puurmet (work permit)
This seems to be a very charming place, I hope I can visit sometime in the future when all this is over. Seeing and sharing places like this is why I love traveling and make videos so much!
Poor Vietnam sees foreigners as ATMs.
@@rusakura8664 And what do foreigners see Vietnam as? The Dollar Store?
My uncle didn’t think it was very “Charming” back in the late 60’s..... educate yourself before speaking
This is the best explanation and putting it in to perspective that I've seen online Good Job!!
New Subbie! 1/15/22 Vietnam opens back up right? I plan on getting the 5yr visa seems to be easier then work visa unless you got new info on work visa?
Let's hope things return to some kind of "normalcy" in the future, thanks for the info!
Truth is the vulnerable 1% of people who are high risk of death would have been vaccinated by now and the world would be back to normal if the pandemic was being genuinely managed.
The fact the fear mongering, lockdowns and travel restrictions are still going strong 6 months into vaccine roll out proves without doubt there's an agenda at hand, not a fight against a virus.
I think its about the new world order but some are even saying it's about genocide to reduce the world population. I dont believe the later but day by day im becoming more convinced it's about blowing out the world economy for the great reset.
Only time will tell
Thank you,man! Really useful!
Thanks for the clear explanation. 👍🏻
great video! Keen for that follow up video about LT visas in other countries/teaching in other countries.
UPDATE: The US consulate in HCMC is now accepting emergency appointments. You can also pay an agent to get a police check from the justice department more quickly apparently. Also, to clarify, people currently working on legal work permits right now are not affected. It’s just some people switching between jobs that are being affected at the moment. The switching business visa sponsor fee of 15m dong may not always apply. It seems to be on a case by case bases and related to what part of the country you’re in. Here what's covered in the video:
0:00 Introduction
0:52 Vietnam's stance on foreigners
1:49 What's changed?
3:58 Who's being affected?
4:23 1. Tourist visas since 1st March 2020
6:07 2. Tourist visas before 1st March 2020
9:00 3. Business visas from agents
12:28 4. Foreigners on legal work permits
18:05 5. Travel to Vietnam
19:44 Moving forward
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@Ninja Teacher: thx for the table of contents. Very helpful. I wish others would do likewise.
I'll watch the video later; hoping that all will be well for you, Alex...keep up the good work!
Why does one need a criminal record check in Vietnam? It's a mandatory requirement for which situations?
@@englishiseasy5359 For a work permit, if you don't have one from your home country.
I left Vietnam just before the Lunar New Year 2020 and was so disappointed to be trapped in the UK and unable to get back to Vietnam to teach or see my daughter in Thailand.... but now, i feel it was a blessing in disguise. Insightful vids on the latest VN news. I hope to return next year.
Lets just hope things getting better, good info sir...
amazing man- this is the first time Ive seen my life (the last 2 years!!) explained reasonably clearly. Looking back 6 months , this video was pretty optimistic but we need to be, right! Im still battling with all this, I have got aaaallllllllll those documents (you know exactly what I mean) for WP /TRC - 4x, yes that's right 4x (say 10mvnd+ each time), usually schools said dont worry, no need, then i was married here with the TRC, so schools were even more reluctant. Then the WP process stopped in covid, and then and then and then. Ive been here 8 years, now Im overstayed as I wait a few weeks for the inevitable glitches coming from the Depatrment of Labour, espeeeeecially in Da NAng, where I am and where you filmed this. Theres one huge point you didnt cover and also maybe the Vietnamese government also missed this catch 22 situation : I moved to pleiku, 18 months ago.... because Im clever, I saw all this coming, haha. Then covid hit 2 weeks later (work permits were not processed , only 3 month school business visas). I moved to Pleiku from Da Nang for a real job with a real visa. Even since moving back to Da Nang, schools "pretended to process a WP", I would quit once the jig was up. THE PROBLEM WAS, GOV STOPPED THE WP PROCESS, BORDERS AND SCHOOLS SHUT- CANT LEAVE, CANT STAY... I THIS THATS HOW THE GOOD PEOPLE, LIKE ME , ENDED UP ON THESE SKETCHY VISAS: NO WP PROCESS, NO BUSINESS EXTENSION, NOT ALLOWED TO LEAVE, NOT ALLOWED TO GO BACK TO TOURIST VISA. Theres actually been no option..... how did those agents get away with it?! I just paid 20m vnd to Hanoi a few months ago in Directive 16 (15+5m for a 3 month business visa) to convert the sketchy visa to a sponsored one. Then Directive 16 (zero movement and travel to anywhere too long) , locked into that school, you really cant make this stuff up!!!!!! You've done an amazing job in this video. Im overstayed, schools dont know what to do ( iget jobs, we get along, they cant get the visa through), immigration doesnt know how to advise me, now vaccination rules are different in each place. I really tried to do everything properly, im a pretty good teacher with 8 years experience. Seriously exhausted, thanks again. I was just evicted due to visa expiry ( before D16 was moved due to illegal building and no police paper) Now Im in contact with schools in Vinh and Binh Duong after Danang school applications are being rejected on tiny technicalities. I love Vietnam, lived here a good part of my life, had a wife, had a lot of great friends, disappointing to end it like this for sure. Im not even unpacking in my da nang studio, who knows where ill be in a week!!! Subscribed! Seriously, great job on this video.
Clear n concise mucho grass... there have very stress times b4
several times but this bad real bad stick those claws out n keep it tite hang on God Bless any expat looking at expulsion
yo alex. This has happned just as I formed my company and completed post licensing procedures.
Nice Ninja Teacher Tshirt!! 🤣
Thanks for the update!
Well, I guess I'm glad I haven't finished my degree yet. I started studying because of covid and then I heard about the opportunity to teach English in Vietnam, I'm really interested in doing it but it looks like everything might work out for the best if I have to wait a few years.
Yes especially since Alex didn't touch on the rule which has been in place for a long time (2013 ?) that is also being enforced now where you not only need a degree but also 3yrs work related experience outside of Vietnam or no degree but 5yrs work related experience. This has affected many as well. I read about a woman who has a degree (in education no less) however she only has 1 yr of work related experience outside of Vietnam. She will also have to leave after living and working as a teacher in Vietnam for 7 years!
@@UniversalDustyou mean if she had a degree and then 3 years experience and then went to vietnam and stayed for 7 years - it would be then ok ?
If you have a few years it’s better to become a qualified teacher in your own country. You will get much better jobs in international schools than in Esl language centres.
i hear today Thailand is open or very soon just go there follow some rules and come back in a month or so
Very nice video my new friend
the good times are over in more & more countries ... especially since 2020
where exactly is that city /neighbourhood you are walking around in at the start of this video ..looks like a really nice place
I think it's My An, In Da Nang.
Maybe I missed it, but what do retired expats do there in that complex process?
Its 2021 --got to give ---own people the job
Thank you for such detailed updates! I would love to hear how you think Vietnam will move forward from here, both economically in business and how people live. I am concerned about the Vietnam’s recovery from the pandemic.
Yes let's hear about which countries are more open right now.
😄 Come to commies California, my home state. Nancy Pelosi and her nephew governor Gavin Newsom are for Open Border; illegal migrants welcome. Beijing Joe Biden and Karma Harris will supply money, foods and motels.
also keen to hear!
@@a_sea_oasis sooo true lol The Dems have effing ruined Calitaxifornia
@@janchxxheonczsekk6412 Hi. I posted a reply to agree with your comment. Few minutes later my comment magically disappeared into TH-cam space.
By the way I am a Vietnamese American, ex-refugee.
@@janchxxheonczsekk6412 It's Mexifornia now.
Having a huge gray area, then suddenly cracking down- will always suck! LOVE what you had to say about the business visa...glad that YOU knew the rules. How'd you get to know that? The shell company system must have been tolerated by the authorities. The business visa is a huge gray area, less clear to foreigners who the actual employer is, and seeing the numerous visa agents operating in the immigration services, one has to wonder who is in charge. Blacklisting around this business visa crap is probably the absolute most sour way to leave a wonderful country.
I definitely want to hear about other countries as well
Ninja, what countries can a teacher go right now? Do you have a video about it?
Hello. When I was in Vietnam in 2019, I got 3 months visa every time I wanted. Will it be the case after covid over ? I heard rumors who said that after covid tourists will get only 1 month visa...
Yeah most likely only 1 month tourist visas in the future.
@@ninja.teacher But why ?! In 2019 I did a motorbike trip in Vietnam. the 3 months visa was great. 1 month visa isn't enough !! 😓
@@ninja.teacher as of 14 odd months ago, they were talking about a 3 month "TRC" type visa that needed a monthly check in
@@kiwichris4559 It's really bad change for all travellers there...many people will not come there.
@@israelstreetstories675 Why? Its pretty normal that a lot of countries give only a 1 month tourist visa. Actually id think most tourists dont have the luxury to take a 3 month trip due to work. Also, all you have to do is take a $20 bus ride to Cambodia and come back and you can stay again another month.
Would be interested in your knowledge and thoughts on when if the longer tourist and work visa will return, now that we are two years beyond the pandemic and the world is open again.
I heard some news that they're talking about it again.
I extended easily twice but I have a Master's in Ed and 25 years experience. Overseas since 1988 in about ten countries, and was able to deal with immigration everywhere including Vietnam. My school handled everything for me.
Im married to a Vietnamese woman...I just got my visa renewed for 3 years. Thank you Vietnamese Goverment. Its called TRC visa
Yup, marriage exception hasn’t been affected by the recent changes.
A Temporary Residence Card is a visa "exemption", the opposite of a visa! No restrictions on entries and exits for the 3 years as long as your passport is valid.
@@formica. i have a 5 year visa exemption...CAn i come back?
@@donman1727 Visa Exemption Certificates (VEC) and TRCs not valid until the border opens. Even if you are married to a citizen. Currently only Vietnamese citizens, diplomats, factory experts can enter after lengthy application/approval and quarantine process.
@@formica. i see...hmm. thanks for the info
How long have you been living in Vietnam?
It just sounds like very many countries currently. .. Scenarios of change everywhere.
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A lot of them are finding that they don't meet the new foreign expert requirements. The days of the begpacker are coming to an end. Foreign experts now need a degree in a relevant discipline and 3 or more years of experience.
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A country enforcing its own immigration laws? Imagine that.
I know seriously. So much entitlement. it's not even about cracking down as so much as enforcing laws that have been in place for years.
A country broke all it's own immigration laws to get into this mess? Imagine that.
You should check it out Duong Global you tuber about visa extension reasons and how to extension
First view and comment ❤️
With all the backpackers demand for teachers was high already, now with the crack down it’s gonna be sky high
Update, as of today, June 27, there 15400 cases and in 6 months, the death toll has risen from 35 to 75 people. Visas are easier here still than most other countries.
Do you think all of the schools will eventually have to offer work permits then? When I was there one of my schools never mentioned it and the other did at the beginning but it never came into fruition. I want to go back but I don't want only the big international schools (that are more likely to get you a work permit) to be my only options :/
Yeah I think all schools are going to be forced to get their teachers work permits. Overall, I think it's a good thing but there will be some growing pains for sure.
Thanks for the video update. It explains things well given the rapid changes that are occurring during the pandemic. Let's hope the vaccinations speed up so the country can open again for tourists and folks wanting to come over to teach. I think things will get better later this year.
Khi nao may moi roi Viet Nam tro ve My xin loi vo con may ,mr.cecil da ca lan dua ??
I would like to go to the philippine's but how do i get a teaching lin. ?
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But it’s not arbitrary what sort of tourist visa holders are continuing to extend without issue vs those that cannot ?
How do get health care?
Technical advisers on intermational development projects are also being deported. That includes World Bank-financed projects.
Good report dude, this is a CRAZY time for tthe world. I pray they dismiss all this madness ASAP.
Praying will have zero effect. It is an architected plan.
It will only get worse! They're going to unveil The Man Of Sin pretty soon and that's when things will get really hairy!
A Prayer answered. I Love Asia. I love Vietnam. Interested in Ventures that help the Vietnamese. - Bless you
So what about us with proper documentation etc, are we still eligible for a work permit in Vietnam? Currently in China
Illegible yes, however, the process to get here is quire expensive and difficult and not many companies are sponsoring people outside the country.
5,000 cases!! 😱😱😱😱😱😱
Any news on the supposed 3 years teaching experience needed outside of Vietnam to get their work permit?
Just speak to the company your applying with. They should be able to say if they can get you a work permit or not.
@@alexanderinsubordinate1861 true. I've actually got 11 months left on my TRC so theres no rush
Interesting. I taught English as a Foreign Language in 1966 at the Hoi-Viet My located in Cho Lon. I was a soldier stationed at Tan Son Nhat AFB but with four years of college, and fluent in Vietnamese. I then taught English once a week for a few months in Hue in 1967 to teachers at the Quoc Hoc School in Hue. All enjoyable experiences. I was paid for the Hoi-Viet My work but not for the Hue work. Later I researched the economy of ancient Champa for an M.A. in geography and then had a 37 year career doing environmental assessment in the U.S.
Wow, that's really cool. You were way ahead of the curve researching ancient Champa economy.
Cool story. I had an uncle who was an air traffic controller at Ton Sahn Nhut in 63.
Are you vietnam war american soldier? How did the vietnamese reacted about that?
Thanks for your service
You are wonderful person
Your story is so great. My surname is Ong which is originally from Cham Pa. Is that possible to access your research about the economy? Reading it must help me open my mind.
Been there one time and never want to go back anymore. For asia I prefer Japan, thailand and Malaysia
everyone be aware. they did not even give me 30 days. i got 0 days to get out of vietnam. everyone should get out ASAP
Regarding those who arrived on Tourist Visas AFTER 01 March, 2020 (and only those), the automatic visa extension is now valid until the end of July, according to official sources on the internet. 😁
Any clues how to find these sources?
what about investors should they get work permit if their capital over 3billion VND , and the renewal for the TRC is it effected if i dont have work permit as investor ?
Over 3 billion Investment you can still get a TRC. Less than that you need a work permit first then you can get a TRC
@@ninja.teacher actually you can start from 700mil and acquire an investor's visa which is incredibly broad with its potential scope. We're work permit exempt and with no need for a TRC
@@kiwichris4559 can you explain ? if i invest 700m in a company then i get an investor visa and dont need a workpermit ? where do you see that information as rules seem to state 3 billion everywhere now ?
@@mtdrip9523 I/we created consultancy company, business and property.
As we decided to start safely and only invest the lower end amount (500m in our case as it was July 2020 when we started the process), we were not eligible for TRCs etc. We do have a work permit exemption instead.
A lot of digital Nomads have left south East Asia too.
Now they're moving to Eastern Europe/ Balkans and Mexico these days.
eastern or easter island?.
@@brendandair1674 Eastern..typo!
where can i find out more information on flights to vietnam/visa and etc and updates on the whole situation? Do you read all of this from government website or news site? You have any resources you can give me so i can find out myself? For now i use your channel for updates haha. I want to visit my GF in VN so badly.
You can contact local Vietnamese travelers agency or Vietnamese Embassy they one do vista and information on travels but ask them there 5 years vista and renewable ones not vacation vista that where people end up doing and making that mistake. Just verified everything before you travel anywhere, and Vietnam there so many beautiful destinations and location you can go durning a pandemic.
I try summarize information from local news outlets, our contacts in our network of schools, my lawyer, talking to our TEFL course alumni etc. it’s hard to make head or tails of it if you don’t have reliable contacts. Feel free to join our email newsletter where I also send out the latest updates. www.ninjateacher.com/free-training
Try Sunviet visa Expert , been using their service per years.Till now, even at the middle of this crisis they still help many clients. Good luck!
They tough and strict now due to Covid. But in the future 5-10 years from now they going to ease the law
You think it will be 5 to 10 years? Why?
At the check-in counter covid tests must be within 48hrs of departure time on your boarding ticket when flying out. I saw a couple traveling denied boarding (after having already paid for the tickets) because their covid tests were taken more than 48hrs of their flight departure time
Have heard exactly the same for some people transiting through Doha.
Damien, u mean flying in or out of VN?
@@rgasta7765 Out of
Omg. So if you want to fly out u need buy ticket 1 day earlier?
@@rgasta7765 This was a over a month ago and with the number of daily cases rising at a far greater rate than 30 days ago I wouldn't be surprised if this has changed
in the philippines peoples 1 year visa expired and had to leave,
Vietnam and many more countries are just clearing out foreigners who have been in the country too long. They will just have to go to there home counties.
And how do they define too long?
You're still here Paul? In Danang?
@@jerryschele2916 long is when your visa expires
@@jerryschele2916 3 simple steps:
1- look at the visa. what does it say?
2- tourist? think how long do people stay when on vacations? that's how long
3- business/investor visa (but no work no investing)? way too long
Too long? Another foreigner that can't think. You're only in Vietnam as old as your most recent visa. The latest visa is legally how long you've been in the country. No matter if you have had 37 tourist visas. They're all different.
Then you are all welcome to the Philippines Mabuhay!!!!
Regular tourists aren't allowed in the Philippines either 🤦🏽♂️
The whole world put a strict rules about coming foreigners with visa or not and most of them still close till now so its only logical for vietnam to do the same to avoid the spike of the virus.
Sounds like a tough situation right now. And yeah, a video on those other countries and options would be amazing. Looking at things right now, and over the next few months, I'm wondering if China might be more viable than SEA.
I think it is much harder to get into China now, might have to wait till next year
@@wonderingwade1802 yeah I wouldn't be shocked honestly.
It might be possible to get into China - I’ve seen some English teaching jobs being advertised - but I’ve also been told by people there that they can’t leave. Not sure why that is.
@@shinyshinythings Yeah I see the ads too, but you can't believe every ad you see haha. Sometimes they are just collecting your info and waiting until borders open up to hire and others are scams
@@wonderingwade1802 the reality, I guess, is uncertainty right? I mean this really could drag on a long time yet. Probably good to be prepared for that. Hopefully we'll not be waiting more than a year for some return to normality.
Excellent video Alex. Thanks for explaining it so well. Ralph and I will definitely miss Vietnam and wish we got to do more hangouts with you 🙂
Yeah sad days. 🙁
I'm trying to make it back to VN! Been apart from my girlfriend for over a year now because of this damn pandemic
Sorry for you... your gf probably got her bed busy without... it's OK, she still loves you, just physically she needs someone temporarily. So it will be normal soon. Don't forget to thank the bed warmer when you seem them. They will glad to show you what you missed.
@@toddai2721 wtf
Get a new girl bro, this is vn, she's been around and you've been replaced most likely.
@@toddai2721 🤣🤣🤣
Damn bro, that sucks. If she really loves you she will still be there for you, believe me