Scan tool shootout! Autologic Drive Pro vs Autoland iSCAN vs Topdon Phoenix Plus vs Autel IM608
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Today we are comparing four scan tools!
The Drive Pro from Autologic
The iSCAN SF from Autoland
The Phoenix Plus from Topdon
And the IM608 from Autel
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Drive pro ES is 6k now regular price. I just bought one as you know a few months ago. The tool is very meh at best, but the support is awesome. My first grab is the Phoenix smart, then the auto logic then autel. Awesome video!
Great comparison. As someone who uses 3/4 tools demonstrated, your critique is spot on.
Autel FTW! Best scantool on the market,whether one is an actual day to day technician,a DIY-er,TH-camr whatever… And since we’re on TH-cam,it’s also the most popular choice for professional technicians that are actually fixing cars,not just talking about it or shilling for a certain company. Yes it’s Chinese,so are the majority of the other scantool brands…
Thanks for the review! 👌
Autologic is the only American scan tool shown it looks like.
Great video as usual👍
Bro if possible film some case studies on flashing modules on various vehicles, I am willing to learn more tricks from you & see your setup😍
So glad to learn from your experiences, honestly your knowledge on european vehicle's is superb👍
Thanks for sharing Bro, Stay Safe👍
I have every one of these tools. Honestly by far the first tool I grab anymore is the Topdon. For a pre-scan and the ease of emailing it’s perfect. And I couldn’t agree more every one of those tools has a place.
Wich IA more confortable too work
It’s really good to see you making more videos Mario!!! Keep it up!!! We love ur videos!!
Thank you Mario
Very impressed with your knowledge of the various scanner platforms as respects their weaknesses and strengths. I guess I would like to see a complete evaluation by separate scanners and then the subsequent repair of a common problem whether it is an electrical or sensor issue.
Good stuff. BMW,MB and Vag group are very strong on Launch products which includes Top Don. I recently upgraded to the PAD 5 which was a very good price and a super compliment to the factory tooling for these brands. On very few occasions I grab the factory tools out because I say from experience " Uhmm, I am not buying this, so lemme double check"
Great review. We use 2 different autels they both suffer with printing issues. It would be cool to see a review on the dtc accuracy of those tools. I've seen scanners show different codes for same module being tested.
Thank you Mario. Good job. I believe the Autologic is built off the Actron code reader platform but at 10,000% mark up. 😅
Thanks for a comprehensive review. If you can you do a comparison between thinktool Pro / Pro S & Topdon phoenix plus.
Great video and just the info I've been searching for. I have a generic Bluetooth dongle, a BlueDriver, a Foxwell NT510 Elite, and laptop running BMW ISTA. I have a 2012 BMW, a Ford, Chevy, and inheriting a 2003 Jaguar S-Type that's throwing some codes so I've been in the market for a tablet-style scanner that can do more.
In your video you mentioned BMW and Jaguar for the Topdon Phoenix and I've heard good things about it but it really wasn't on my potential buying list til now.
I'll definitely take a deeper look at it after watching this.
Thanks for the info!
Thank you so much, I purchased an Im508 and I have the same issues, No Printer, I was able to set up my personal email and keep it stored, But the tool is in Poor English, Found it hard to understand the Key coding that Autel says it does but I don`t think Down and from right, to left so that unit is going back and I`ll be looking at the Topdon Pheonix, instead. Much appreciated your time to make this Video
One of the best demonstrations
Very honest
Keep them coming
Thanks, Gracias Mario 👍
So far no complaints with my Phoenix Plus, I've had mine a few months
Yes I love my topdon phoenix plus
Does it do biderictional immobilizer programming tpms and ecu coding programming?
Good stuff thanks for sharing
I’m an automotive locksmith and love my im608. By far one of the best tools for a locksmith. But just like a mechanic we needs several tools. AutoProPad by Xtool is one I would recommend and even though it’s one of my least favorite the Smart Pro is also a needed tool. For more advanced auto locksmiths Abrites and vvdi tools are also a must.
Oh for sure, they all have gaps. I have several programmers and all but decided not to put all that in my videos. They're more heard towards the diag techs. I will argue that the im608 is a VERY strong diag scanner
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics I use my im608 for diagnostics all the time. I really like it. But I use it mainly for locksmith stuff, computer programming and to help me do a diagnostic if there is an issue not allowing me to program a key. Sometimes if the car doesn’t start to help out my customer I will run a diagnostic.
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics The im608 is not Autel’s strongest diag scanner. That title goes to Maxysys Ultra. However, all these makers make sure they keep just one or two vital features missing, so they don’t shoot their other tools in the foot. Autel for example im608 is very strong for immo, but just above average on diagnostic. Maxisys Ultra has oscilloscopes and meter stuff built into the Vci and diagrams and networked module display, etc. it can do basic key programming. I have the Launch as well (topdon, thinktool, Maximus, etc). Launch tools have good power behind them, however, you have to figure things out for yourself. It’s not super user friendly. But I like it bcuz I CAN figure out how to do almost every thing. Also, Launch tools gain access to Mercedes servers and can get the scn info, which makes them super valuable for the price. You can do 6/7 Mercedes transmission programming jobs and make the total cost of the Launch. Also, with vpn it can program and with immo prog it can do immo stuff. Best value. Any of these tools that have “factory interface” built in, try to program a Chrysler. It will need to become a WiPod, which I avoid lol
I personally think that it is unethical to hobble some equipment if you don't keep paying what is effectively a monthly ransom. I wont do it for Microsoft, autodesk, or snapon either.
You spend all these fcking money for bullshit half ass performance on these tools , no problem collecting the cash
And updates but you getting screwed and the costumer
We live in the world on half ass screwups piping your money
Agreed and now the car companies are starting subscription payment BS as well....evil 😈 💩
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I love the topdon phoenix plus I can program abs module on my ford f150 lariat 5.4 2005 🔥
Very nice!
Hello from Nicaragua, in my workshop use Xtool, Launch, Foxwell, Topdon and Autel equipment diagnostic tool, but always some one work some diferent funtions thant another one.
Launch = topdon. No?
Doing different stuff?
My Autel now added Printer WiFi connection as an option besides PC Link and that has worked every time for me. Like you said, PC Link is hit or miss and I would have to restart my computer for it to work most times.
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Great work! Thanks for sharing in real time with each tool.
what tool do you recommend for online ecu programming like factory code flashing for modules, scn coding for most car models ?
I subscribe to your channel seen a few of your videos I like them I’m actually ford technician majority of the time I use factory scan tool but we got taken over by a bigger dealership owner and we do a lot of used cars many different makes and models so I’ve been on the market for a new scan tool my first was an autel 708 like 12 years ago I bought it I actually still use it an older model cars still does me justice but nothing like the factories scan tool
It has its place, there are plenty of aftermarket tools that can do what the factory scan tool cannot. Point being, never depend on just one tool, even if it's the factory scan tool
👍 appreciate u!
Been using autel for years and a couple days ago change to snap on ....excelent so far but more expensive
Interesting. The Topdon is just a Launch... I have had a Launch scanner for years it's basically exactly the same just altered UI theme lol
I think the new larger Iscan is around 4k. It has an Icom built in that you can use independently from the tool unlike the Cardaq 3 built in to the Drive Pro. The non subscriber issues with the Autologic is a slap in the face for AL. That wasn't the agreement when the tools were sold. Some of their tech support guys are awesome though. My Autel is also my go-to tool. Thanks for the work sir
That's exactly right, they did not mention it beforehand, everyone i know that owns an autologic found out after the fact. Hopefully they change that, but I'm not holding my breath on that one. Thanks Corey!
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics I'm trying to be nice here but.......we have mutual friends that work for the company and that was the only reason I even considered the tool in the first place. The $300 monthly subscription cost was solely for updates, warranty and tech support. Thats what they told everyone. Until recently, that was the case. Then someone changed the rules after the fact and a lot of people are 😡 upset. Anyway, I'm gonna go play with my new IM909 from Mr Isaac. 👋
Mario I smell something burning , oh its your ears from the phone calls you just got lol . Just remind them you said it wasn't a promotional video , at the beginning lol . Enjoyed my friend .
I love my Im608 pro !
My biggest issue with autel range is that you cant save the pid selection so when you back out of live data and go back in you have to reselect them. (Unless someone knows how)
I HAVE BEEN DOING SOME IMMOBILIZER WORK OF LATELY , AND I CAN SAY FOR ME IF YOU ARE JUST GETTING STARTED DOING KEY PROGRAMMING FOR ME THE LAUNCH SCANNER IS MUCH EASIER TO USE AND GET SUCCESS ,,, IT JUST WORKS . I HAVE THE AUTEL , G-SCAN , LAUNCH , GENESIS AND ALSO A XTOOL PAD PRO WHEN ALL THE REST FAIL AT KEY PROGRAMMING . I MOSTLY WORK ON AMERICAN AND JAPANESE CARS AND I FEEL THE NEXT GREAT SCANNER FOR ME WOULD BE THE I-SCAN . I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HOW YOUR SCANTOOLS DO AT CODING , ACTIVATION'S AND GRAFTING , AND IF POSSIBLE A SMALL BIT OF PROGRAMMING ON SOMETHING SIMPLE LIKE SAY A PUSH BUTTON NISSAN PCM . THANK YOU MARIO FOR TAKING THE TIME TO MAKE THIS VIDEO , THIS MAY BE YOUR MOST VIEWED VIDEO !!!!!!!!!
Might be a long time before i can show that since we specialize in European vehicles here
I've had my im608 for over a year now. Haven't had any problems. Maybe 1 or 2 freezes. I use it a lot. I could never get the printer to work on my im608. I gave up on that. I just save it as a PDF then go to data manager on the home page, then choose PDF, pick the pdf, hit the 3 dots in the top right, choose share, and then compose. Or something like that. If I want to print then I look up my sent emails with my phone and print it from my phone. lol
Good job
with my launch I have to share my reports or screen captures to my Google drive then I can print it or download it to whatever I want. have you tried that with the autel.
Thank you for this video. Please can you make video about the escan
I definitely should!
AWESOME VIDEO and your hard work making it - Thank you in advance from Hawaii I had question - does the Autoland scanner have the capability to program Mopar module vehicles? Supply Chain issue is causing us to possibly looking at 2nd hand modules Would this Autoland scanner do the job in all of your experience that you have Your advise would really be of great help Thank you from Hawaii
Thanks. I've never tried using the iscan for Chrysler. I use the factory tool and many times you can configure a used module. But sometimes it requires eeprom work
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics THANK YOU FOR THE INFO APPRECIATE IT
Great video bud!
I had trouble with email too till i finally talked to a guy at Autel and he guided me through it. To be honest, all the scan tools have shitty printing except my versus pro lol.
My question is the ultra like having an im 608 too? Or is it still separate for the key stuff?
I'll have to give that another try because they've tried before and it didn't work. The ultra will not have key capabilities
I have ultra and im608 pro , they are different , ultra is good for diagnosing, and im608 good for immobilizes
Mario is the TOPDON Phoenix Lite 2 good for a Nissan Rogue sl 2009
Hola profe saludos
Profe quiero ser emprendedor y así que me compre el autel ms919 para poder trabajar ofreciendo lectura y borrado de códigos y programación lo que más permita el equipo hacer .mi pregunta es si puede iniciar de 0 como en mi caso son clientes y que consejo me das gracias
My drive pro is a paper weight now since I don’t have a subscription.
I love my iscan plus support is not “locked” in per month like AL. Diagnation has faster turn around on support imo. I will say whoever the Porsche person at AL support is why I don’t pay for a subscription for that tool. No support company should degrade anyone, that was my final straw.
There really should be a feedback option after sessions are over. I've had great interactions, but also very poor ones. Iscan is truly making a name for themselves
was he a real fast talker?
Great video. what about X Tool D9 and what can't Topdon do?
I know it’s based on the 4 machines you own, ever thought of BOSCH KTS or Hella Gutmann (my preference) for German vehicles..??
Nice work sir. I have a 06 duramax lbz and a 2011 bmw x5m for the wife..... which one would be best for me ? Also can reflash andxor program new ecm and tcms.... nothing burns my ass more than to get a new module and then play the dealer game shit..... let me know... ty.
hey super mario i have a question about how can use a topdon phoenix mdci pro i try to install the software j2534
Very interesting video as per usual, out a matter of interest which tool do you use on the newer 17> JLR cars….? I’m trying to decide do I go for pathfinder ….🤔 or go with some aftermarket tool ! Only issue is pathfinder is going off line in April in favour of a Clowd set up…..! 🤔🤔🤔🤔 The Autel j box from the mk908 works great with sdd but my god is sdd so slow to use ……!
I've only needed to use sdd twice. We don't get as many newer jlr as we do all the other vehicles. If it's what you specialize in, definitely go with pathfinder. Eventually they all will be cloud based software, that's where we're headed
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics Thank you for the fast reply. Apparently they will be going Clowd in April according to my friends at the local dealership (my former employer) when I was still working there the Clowd was meant to being brought in but there was way to many glitches…! Jlr go figure! Do you think the Autel Jbox would work with pathfinder as it’s DIOP protocol but the Autel jbox has an adapter for Ethernet cable……? 🤔
@@billytremoloband7456 i haven't looked into it, unfortunately i couldn't say
@@LynxStarAuto Thank you so much for the information, the plan is to as good as specialise at JLR’s to put my few years I spent working for them to good use! Plus I figure most mechanics won’t touch them and I don’t mind working on them so charge accordingly to repair them …! Local dealership are charging 160€ plus tax per hour so 80€ per hour ish sounds reasonable and also much better than only getting paid 19.50€ per hour at the dealership …..!
Great video have you used thinktool pro if so what's your pro and con on it.
I've only used it once, so i couldn't speak on it
Still waiting for an Escan review.
Hello Mario. I have a 2009 Audi A4 and I would like to ask you if the ISCAN3 scanner could be used to program the Driver door Module? because Autel won't do it. I tried to do it but it didn't work. And well, you have that scanner and I would like to know if I could program it with that? also a 2010 Vw Beetle replaced the ECM and installed a used one but failed to do it with Autel either. same question if ISCAN3 does it? I will appreciate if you can answer me with these questions.
That works with iscan over Sod
There is a video on how to set up email on the autel scanners. Took me a minute to figure it out but it’s working with no problem. I do have the problem with the printer sometimes
I did all that to no avail
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics when I set mine up by that video, I could not get it to work so there was 3 choices like smtp server ect, and it worked on the 2nd choice and not smtp. Hope this helps
Top Don would be the winner in all of these test very accurate scan tools .It's basically capable of doing mostly everything that other scan tools can do to a pro diagnostics . Autel would be the second best scan tool for accuracy .
Can you do a review on the matco maxlite
With the sprinters did you mean the fuel injectors?
I do enjoy the drive pro, at least the legacy software, the technical support is fantastic but yes it you dont get a call by end of day, your probably not getting a call and youd better resend another request
I had the same problem with that Ansel scan tool you have to go into Google and turn off the protection something in there I can't remember exactly what it was but I had to turn off a protection to software and Google and then it's let my email go right through it's something that Google has in there to protect you from unknown devices being tapping into your account hope this helps
Autologic USED to be the way to go . Unfortunately they have more customers than they can handle . ON THE EUROPEAN SIDE OF TECH SUPPORT. Thanks Mario I thought it was just me .
@@LynxStarAuto you can still use them up to 2010 2011
I’ve noticed that these more expensive scan tools don’t show continuous, permanent or pending either which is really upsetting for me. I do this as a hobby not a career so it’s not huge but it’d be nice to know that stuff lol.
It's true with the print problems, all the Autel scanner. At the workshop, we have 3 Autel, the hi end product of Autel, and 2 mid range, all of them, every day you have to play with the printing settings....
For European market cars, I am very surprised with the coverage that Autel have,i rate it compare the job we can do,95% out of jobs,but also, very good products for European cars, are the Texa wich I have use it and it's very very good, and the Gutmman ,wich I have not use it, I have checked it few times, and maybe it's going to be my next scan tool.
I don't advertise this product, just my opinion, for the technician that they want to buy a scan tool and they are doing the 'homework '.
Look into the XTool D9
Can it do audio receivers?
I just ordered the TopDon Phoenix Plus yesterday for my own personal cars. For a home user not wanting to spend too much on a scan-tool I thought it seems like a great price of AU$1217 to give some extra functions not available on the basic handheld units. Fingers cross I chose right I guess
How’s it working for you? I get mine today.
Yeh great still. Used it again yesterday on the daughters Suzuki Swift. Diagnosis, graphing and clearing codes is easy as.
Dang. It's like 750 here on eBay in the US.
Man you got some nice toys. Why can't this all be done on a laptop with the right program and a connector?
With the autel 608, or any scanner for that matter. When your programing with modules with the j-box. How do you pay the oem subscriptions threw the scanner?
No, at each respective oe website
And you go to the oe websites threw the scanner?
What scan tool is best for Ferrari?
In my opinion, the scanning time is not quite the first thing that bothers me. Covering the functions of scanners that really work is much more important. Technical support? Are you kidding me? Even European scanners such as Bosch or Hella Guttman do not cover all the functions of aftermarket scanners. I think it's the car companies that cause problems for companies with aftermarket scanners - they give them incomplete information because there is only one original scanner for BMW and only one original scanner for Mercedes, etc. we have to consider what is better. You are right, one scanner is not enough, nor two, sometimes even three...
"If you want things to go wrong pick up a camera" 😅😅😅
My first grab is the Triton D10 because of speed.
Will the Top Don do key programming?
My first grab is x431 then the autel,my drive pro is the worse scanner I've ever add,first it never work for the first 6 months and by then..got other options
Mario what's ur thoughts on the Topdon Elite?
Never used it before
Interested in the topdon Phoenix lite 2 or the Phoenix plus any recommendations ?
The lite 2 is very strong
I love autel
Have you ever done a review on the Xtool d8 bt....
D8 - cheapest on market with topology. I saw it for 400 usd in sale from Ali
Mario, do you use gmail with 2 factor authenticator? if so you need to generate an APP password to make it work with your Autel.
I've never used gmail. I may have no other choice at this point
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics Gmail works on all my Autel tools. Getting around the 2 Factor Auth took me awhile to figure out but once you know it's simple
@@ssrbob did it today. Thanks Bob, i should've done this a long time ago. Not long ago the pclink was hit or miss, but recently is been completely useless. Thanks!
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics I'm glad you got gmail working. My pc link is hit or miss too. Sometimes it works just fine and other times not.
Have you used toyota Techstream? If so how do these compare?
Techstream is only good with Toyota and Lexus. These scan tools work on a broader range of vehicles
You can get the email thing fixed by calling it in
Bought the IScan with all protocols for using the machine as a gateway for my factory computers. Paid $5200😢
I’d like my money back. Weak on Mercedes, better on Porsche and Audi products. It’s a shame that you really need every tool to get the job done!
TopDon seems legit.
I have my Autel hooked up to the Shop Desktop Computer. It loses “no printer” when you’re not hooked up to the wife network or the computer goes to sleep.
Do All of these require a Wi-Fi signal to work ? I'm not always working where a Wi-Fi signal exists
Only the autologic will prevent you from using it at all if you don't sign in via WiFi.
Online functions will be limited from the autel
Online functions will be limited from the iscan
The Topdon will function completely without WiFi
Wow. Thank you for your prompt response and confirmation. That was quick ! Paul Danner recommended you. I’m staying subbed. Looking forward to watching past vids.
@@GMAN420BC no prob! Thanks for the sub! Hope you enjoy!
First view, and commebt
Damn you had to refinance your house to buy all those scanners… but all 4 of them are probably the cost of one snap on tool….
which one to buy if you're on a budget?
The Topdon is the least expensive
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics
thanks 👍
The Autel mk908p allows you to send the fault codes via email ! What is up with the 608 🤔🤔🤔
Ended figuring it out via autel support
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics Ah sweet, to be fair it’s a very handy feature to be able to email faults, another handy thing to get if you don’t already have one is the newer generation battery testers that also allow to send results via message/email plus there cheaper than the ones with the paper roll on them! Almost 100€ cheaper over this side of the Atlantic!
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics Note to self : watch more super Mario vids ! Your literally a fountain of knowledge and a great help to someone working for themselves and also getting stuck with some right random diag issues !
why not compare the pro unit not the base unit on topdon
The drive pro used to be good but autologic cant program any of the mercedes stuff anymore, and the $300 a month is killer, and sometimes the techs you call for tech support are all smart assess and rude and dont really help at all, so thats why im leaning towards Autoland one now.
Hola. Cual es el telefonp de tu taller
Telefono
And he's handsome too. :)
Hello Mario. I have seen your video and I want to tell you that I have Autel Elite and IM608. you can send the report directly to your tel. via PDF. and you don't need to send it to a computer by email any of that. I use it daily and I have no problem. and I have been trying to get information from the ISCAN3 scanner. What do you have there? but I just wanted to ask you. How much better in programming is it than Autel or Launch? because I'm seeing if I can buy the ISCAN3 but hardly anyone gives me a report or knowledge of this type of scanner. I try not to be paying as much in subscriptions as Autologic. but if you do things much more in programming. transmission, head light modules, and ecm. etc... very common things. I would like if you have time and give me a suggestion. I would really appreciate it. Nice day. Thank you
I've not been successful at sending reports to my phone but maybe that's because of it being an iPhone.
With autologic, you have to pay 300/month for their subscription. And if a vehicle that you're working on is not part of the package you've subscribed to, then each programming session with cost you another 150.
Iscan does not require a monthly subscription and anything that requires their tech support that you cannot do within the tool itself will run you 125 per session. They will see if it's something that they can do before starting the session. Which has not been the case for me with autologic.
The iscan will do most headlight coding on Mercedes and also 722.9 data transfer without requiring an support session
Ok. Thank you. So much. I don't have IPhone. Probably that's the problem. But any way. If you have android you can send reports from there and send to other customers at same time. Blessings.
Not a fan of the Autologic Drive Pro. Their tech help has back door functions so they can do other test or functions that should on the tool for the money. I had two call backs from two different guys and they both had me check different things. Another car we were told to replace a rear main seal on a VW and I disputed(had no oil leaking) but I replaced it and it ended up being a Cam control solenoid failure. It's not intuitive and no real help info on the tool. That and it takes too long(5 minutes) to boot.
I faced same problem. Even cheapest crack version of lanuch also have facility to send diagnostic report on email in just 2 touch
stay a way from autologic pro .it want do Audi transmission ...or new dme bmw if it is msv80..and more autoland is better when it comes to coding or programming
Why use the Autel im608? That’s a locksmith tool?
Why not use it? It also has the diagnostic section built into it
It's also a strong locksmith tool as well
Use another Autel like the MS908 Pro.
Send it over so that I can
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics I sincerely would have. The issue is that it costed my the equivalent of $US 813 .00 to ship and clear it into Jamaica (separate from the cost of the unit), and it would cost about $US 300 for me to send it to you.
I would have to pay the same import fees when you send it back. Things are relatively expensive residing in Jamaica.
@@MatthewTaylor3 that was actually the first full functionality scan tool i used. Great tool
Mario u should try the launch x431 products
I have tried them, they are very capable tools, but the Topdon is the same, more updated software