Is VAIO BETTER without Sony?? - Vaio SX12 Laptop
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มี.ค. 2020
- VAIO was a big name in the computer world with Sony, but in 2014 they separated... how does it hold up today?
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The VAIO seems like a laptop that would be awesome 5 years ago.
5 years? More like 7 or 8 years. I can easily see that being a good one in 2012
Came here to post something along those lines and you beat me to it.
try 2008 to 2010. dell had an ultra thin back then, but that styling in right out of that era of computers.
@Tong Zou You can have has many ports, but if the system isn't great to use for 1900 dollars, what's the point? You can have a similar one for 1000 dollars or even 800 dollars.
@Tong Zou
A laptop that costs $1900 shouldn't flex by simply typing. _Full stop._ If you buy something that costs $1900, it should feel like that too.
My dude is that a calculator watch ?
They're pretty "hipster" nowadays
@Suraj K lol
@@tedubadu2536 Hey, mate, he's stated before he uses it, finds it super helpful, bugger off dude.
wristwatches in 2020 are pretty unnecessary in general
wristwatches in 2020 are pretty unnecessary in general
$1900? Based on Alex’s review, sounds like a $900 laptop...
@Sergei Serenkov How about the 15" Dell XPS for 1800 USD? It is way, way, way more powerful than a Macbook Pro 15 2018. Nonetheless, the Vaio is a HUGE joke. The heck ahahah. How about an Asus Zenbook 14? Also comes with an i7 and Nvidia graphics and is impossibly thin and small. Costs ~1400 USD for the 1TB Nvme SSD-model.
For $1900 you can get a Lenovo y740 with an I7-8750h and an RTX 2070 max-q
EDIT: I know it's not the same category, but I'm just talking power here
You say this, but the lower end SX12s are normally $1,200, but discounted ATM to $1,000.
@Sergei Serenkov So is Apple' latest models! Skip the 2017,2018 and 2019 models as they are plagued with severe issues and Apple won't cover it. Apple had severe issues with the keyboard and the T2 chip that causes the entire MBP to be wasted (The T2-chip often burns out and is required to acces anything on the SSD in the MBP, so all data is lost after the T2-chip fails). I got the tiny Apple MacBook (pro?) The 12 inch model, ha! It's awesome ^^
thing is, for that price, i can get an older gen i7 with a gtx 1060 included, brand new. and much better build quality.
This is 2012-2014 Vaio laptops to a tee, it looks almost exactly the same. The way Alex describes it, it may as well be a 2014 Vaio with upgraded internals and the addition of a TB3 port.
-used to work at a recycler and we got stacks of these in from a healthcare company.
Cause they didn't sell the old inventory, hence the "upgrade".
the real question is when will VAIO get back into schools always missing some keys from the keyboard
Not really, unless VAIO makes some kind of budget offering like a chrome book at a good price
Did schools use Vaios or something?? never encountered that.
@@colinstu it's the fact that they were cheap crap. the schools I went to always had dells. and generally you will either see dell or IBM/Lenovo when it comes to business computers. unless we are talking HPE servers.
@@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks yeah I've only ever encountered / seen latitudes or thinkpads at schools. Give a laptop to any kid that isn't personally responsible for, they'll rip the keys off lol.
@@TheObsesedAnimeFreaks we use HP's on my university, a lot of elitebooks/probooks and also their desktop equivalents.
So basically, buy the xps
@@brandonchutt312 Sad to think that ThinkPads don't have VGA :-( or the old excellent Keyboard+Trackpoint :-(
Unless you really really want a VAIO laptop. Which you do, you do! ;)
@@brandonchutt312 thinkpads used to be pretty plasticy tho. Are they still that way?
I was going to say that the xps only has a quad-core processor, but apparently that's only the new one...
Brandon Chutt And then watch it brick itself while charging
That Vaio is just a business laptop. There's a lot of old VGA screens around still, it's something you get out on the field to work. I think plastic absorbs hits betters, too.
But, yeah, that trackpad is not excusable.
For VGA I would say that there a lot of dongle option out there, so no need for that. When I read "vaio" and "business laptop" in the same sentence it gives me shivers. M$ Surface is (gladly) taking this seat here in Germany.
or the 4k touchpad screen
Yeah, especially projectors
Igor Schmidt VGA is a Japan specific feature at this point, like all the Japanese manufacturers still have VGA ports for some reason
Call me old fashioned, but I prefer smaller touchpads with physical buttons. I've never used a decent clickpad on any laptop(besides macbook, of course). If the touchpad is accurate, and the driver is good, the size doesn't matter.
I'm watching this video on my 10 year old Sony Vaio, and it still works fantastic! Sad to see what happened to Vaio, when they left Sony...
Same!!
ayooo same VAIO SVE15
That’s a name I haven’t heard in a loooong time.
.....a long time. Now let's see if we can figure out what you are, my little friend, and where you came from.
@@ignignxkt We're sorry lord Cobra. I'm sure your noble origins give you the authorization to judge others based on their roots.
Until I saw this video I didn't even realize I haven't heard that name in a long time. That's how much I forgot about them.
@@Alexander-is9jo wtf are you talking about. I was finishing a star wars quote from obi wan Kenobi you judgemental twit.
It's not that they wanted to make more high end stuff but more enterprise stuff, that's why there's a VGA prot and stuff.
Also for a while they were only available in Japan, and during that time they had actual high end stuff (fort the time of course)
Conjo *port
*for
Conjo yeah, the moment that I heard him say “VGA” I thought to myself, “Japanese market.”
Walk into any Yodobashi or Yamada Denki and you’ll see many many laptops with legacy porta
the only things that have a VGA port in the corporate environment (in my company) are the 10 year old cheapo monitors that they give out to external workers. but they have a DVI port too, so HDMI -> DVI adapter works well.
Takumi Okazaki well, that just because the tech market there is pretty outdated
This is exactly like the thinkpad series. Way too much money for a generic laptop, but since it's a thinkpad big companies will buy them anyways. I mean seriously, 32 gigs of ddr4 2666 for $750?
I believe the flex (esp. in the screen) is a selling point, they say you can accidentally close the lid with a pen inside and nothing should break.
Correct!
It'll absorb impact slower too, instead of instantly transmitting the shock from a drop into the delicate pcbs
I love my vaio from 2010 with its 1st gen i5
Still using ours with the core 2 quad
mine doesn’t have a processor lol
Mine has a e450 and it costed 1k
@@ElecricCherry Core 2 Duo here, runs linux great!
Still got one from 2002! Owned it since 2007...it's third-hand.
Young Harrison Ford rocking a calculator watch reviewing a legacy brand. LMG has a cloning/time machine?
Whoever he is, I like him more than Linus, based on looks and voice alone.
lmfao so they wanted to get away from consumer products to make high-end, only to make the most mid-ranged laptop i've ever seen
they wanted to sell high end products but didnt realize that you have to sell mid range products to the average consumer to be able to afford the r&d to make nice high end products
Mid-range ultrabooks have way better construction though and feel sturdier.
Mid range is a bit much lmao
*Sony* wanted to get away from laptops, so they sold the brand. This isn’t Sony.
@@Easton21 who said it was?
As a Japanese, I know many Japanese companies are trying to sell cheap stuff at a high price. Japan is a country where most people are over 60 and they are in charge of the government and many companies and they don't know anything about PC's so they buy these stuff. Vaio has become one of those companies.
the problem is vaio really was innovative and had actual top of the line stuff for the price. Now it's like they're trying to sell something from 6 years ago for premium prices
and?
@@ftghb my mom had a 10 year old sony vaio that she still uses with only one battery replacement. Now my surface pro 4's battery got recked and now I'm using the 10 year old vaio.
But you guys have 30000yen laptop at bic camera! Why would anyone over 60 buy a vaio then? Assuming they only use it for browsing the internet.
@@Colourisedspoon First, old people have a lot of money in Japan. Second, the sellers are pros at selling expencive garbage. They say something like "it's gonna last longer" "It's more secure" "buzz word buzz word so it's actually cheap if you consider it has buzzword".
Old people here have no knowledge about PC's and they have money to burn.
I love this channel. It gives me something to watch by itself OR while I'm gaming without being overwhelmed. LTT videos can be a little loud and information heavy when sometimes I just want some options on a cool product.
"Thinnest laptop with a six core" great advertising, you basically told me you made one of the hardest thermally throttling laptop
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Exactly! I'm sick and tired of laptop companies pushing themselves to make the thinnest laptops ever, advertising how thin they are. Like, seriously stop, you're just thermal throttling the laptop into oblivion, making it useless for any serious work. No one cares how thin your laptop is, is it thin enough to fit into a backpack? That's ALL that matters if you're making a laptop running an i7 or nicer. It's so incredibly frustrating to see companies move in the thin direction when it's causing unbearable thermal throttling.
@@Michael0697 The 3-4 lb weight itself is a deal breaker on super workstation style laptops. If you travel 24 7 without a car, with the laptop bag and charger, its a whopping 5-6 lbs. They already have i7 gaming machines that sucks electricity dry and generates enough heat to warm the entire coffee shop. It will warm and heat the surrounding air in a hot summer day, which is not really what you want if you intend to work next to it.
VGA and Ethernet are good for industrial use. We often use these ports, to connect with PLCs or other industrial stuff
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Well they got all the right ports, VGA is still widely used today, Lenovo still sell ton of adapters for VGA, lot of schools, universities and work places with VGA projectors and other stuff.
because they dont spend money, so this laptop is basically nonsense outside of japan because the ones in euope and asia mainland without hdmi dont have the money to buy a vaio, lol.
@@tarkitarker0815 mostly is office use, my university have only VGA projector's.... They don't have funds to change to HDMI. Also second hand monitors for cheap is VGA only.
@@tarkitarker0815 We still use tons of VGA stuff at my (IT) job. It's just more practical than replacing monitors, kvms, etc.
@@trashandchaos idk where you work but both of the it security workers i have in my friend and family circle always have the newest stuff, one of them works with the backend. only the monitor in the serverroom has vga because it doesnt need anything other than onboard and 4 xeon 32 core cpus are enough even when from 2012. the real backend sits in frankfurt anyway. one works for a big german isp in the datasolution field and the other one writes and improves drivers and uefi for business firewall devices.
@@trashandchaos for it level work in the car industry or something with barebone devkits i understand the need of vga though.
Loving the casual yet informative review style
Well.viao..you had my attention up until " 1900 bucks", " small trackpad< and " plasticy..feel and flimsiness.". NOPE. No sale.
I was in with all the ports, then I was out when he talked about build quality and price, small trackpad doesn't bother me. I never had a great impression of VAIO laptops to begin with, always pricey for what they offered and not particularly amazing, looks like more of the same. Guess my thinkpad stays
@@RandarTheBarbarian seems like a lot of us are in sync with this. I was in too until he mentioned the price and build quality.
@@Giroutte I aspire to never live the dongle life. I don't like the ever decreasing number of ports. Maybe with a dock connector or something I could get over it I guess that's what thunderbolt is now, but ehh... it's just not selling me
@@RandarTheBarbarian I'll take thin and light and even compromise with dongles BUT, that thing better has good build quality and a good screen for that price ranges. The XPS comparison was good, same specs and with an amazing screen and a good selection of ports and for 50$ less I'm just not sure Vaio was looking at their price range competition very well at the time of pricing their new laptop.
@@RandarTheBarbarian When I carry something around it better be the ultimate tool. I like to loose those "dongles" as they are so small and are often unused for months. This Vaio does look nice but 1900USD puts me off.. Especially here in Europe where 25% tax gets added on top.
I am still using laptop with 5th gen i5,8GB of ram and some random radeon and it does the job. It also has a swappable battery so I carry around a backup one and in total get over 8 hours of medium-heavy use. 6Cores seems like an overkill to me and even tho I am using VirtualBox all the time(that itself takes up at least one physical core) I can't justify the need to ever go beyond quad core with HT.
I am gonna stick with what I have until I can get a laptop with hot swappable battery and at least this many ports, basically my ideal laptop.
The "improvements" in laptop industry just feel so negligible to me.
VAIO is a Japanese company, it is understandable why they put so many port in, many Japanese are still connecting their laptop with old school device, and frankly, even HDMI/USB C aren't particularly well adopted in Japan.
I guess it has something to do with longevity and reliable electrical device and people are generally more careful in using their device.
usb c well I can understand, but hdmi?? really?
For sure, the Japanese are surprisingly slow at adopting new standard. Lot of the Japanese businesses I deal with have extremely outdated IT infrastructure
@@syamayama Yeah, ran into nasty surprise when I am on business trip to Japan, expecting that at least I can get HDMI output work in most place, even bought a usb-C to HDMI..... no, DVI, not even VGA.
And I am talking about Nissan, WTF?
@@Verpal My clients in Japan wants to use fax hahah. Their plant is as automated as it can be with minimal input from workers, but the managers use fax!
Nobody understand vaio, too many people indoctrinated by Apple. For me Vaio were a durable machine that I'd trust to be my main laptop for a decade or more. This video is so wrong.
"We put a Hexacore i7 in this super thin Laptop!"
Cool. ... Why?
Kinda of garbage on intel side. considering cheap super thin ryzen laptops have 8 core processors
I still have my 2014 Sony Vaio ultrabook that I use for work. Still works fine, I upgraded to an SSD in 2016 and it only has started to show its age in 2019.
"There's a lot of mush before you get into the clique"
This VAIO is probably not getting in...
what you mean? VAIO is mush af, hes in for sure
@@StixOkay when you put it that way...sorry for the mushtake.
No you
Alex: gets laptop
"Costs almost $1900"
Also Alex: procedes to throw it in the air
Well, he's following after linus so it runs in the family
they throw their laptops around because they don't buy them. Companies send them tech as PR to review.
@@NovaCaine2489 just want to make sure it wasnt a suprised to somebody especially since their over lord throws everything too
How in the holiest of holy fucks have 141 people and counting up ticked this unimaginative, same old same old, rehash of a shite to start with comment? You sad, SAD FUCKS
@@jimmywhite4025 what are you trying to say? You're looking like an idiot
I just bought a Sony VAIO Z from 2010 and I use it daily, and I must say, it's really awesome. It was years ahead of the competition back then. The design is great and for the light tasks I do on it, performance is just fine.
well i have the VPCSB series Vaio
it has i7 2620m and Radeon hd7400m
and with 8gb ram (,4gb stock) i buy it at 2011
well the performance is acceptable and the track pad just isn't that good but I use mouse all the time so I don't really care. but after 10 years tho i want a new laptop:)
@@vitabudi I do have some of these too, trackpads of these are ruined by the Windows drivers, as the trackpad itself supports multi-touch gestures, but the drivers mostly don't. Linux drivers tho, make it way more usable. Problem with the SB series is the 1366x768 screen, otherwise, solid laptop if upgraded properly.
@@RoxGYT yea i've install linux on it once, and i can use 2 finger to scroll and stuff. but since i go back to windows again i lose that feature i wonder is it possible to bring back that feature by using another driver or something
I picked one up for $60, and damn! It feels so premium and weighs nothing for a 2010 top-of-the-line laptop with an i7 and 8GB of RAM. I love it!
I own a 2014 Sony Vaio, and it's still working great at the end of 2020. The 6-year experience using it is supreme. This month I consider buying a new laptop. Still want a Vaio for its reliability. And also the machine remains cool and silent even been working for all day. It got all the ports you need no matter at any situation. At the old times when Sony owned it, it's really convenient and reliable if there's any problem on my machine. During this 6 years, my son hit it twice on the ground, and it's still working VERY WELL…haha
Yes-I’ve also dropped my vaio Duo13 a few times and there have never been any hardware issues. It’s been many years. I just hope it can still be functional-I think the only limiting factor is its battery life
Everything Sony makes is amazing, I wished that they did not dispense it 💔
Low sales tough competition from Chinnse brands and Apple
So... Buy the Dell?
The Dell XPS 13 I believe has had battery swell issues. At least the models that my employer used.
Anything that isn't razer lol
@@Nicolas-zo6rg Haha, true
Dude, you’re getting a Dell!
It's a good thing DELL is an established name. Because it sounds exactly the same as "del" which means "skank" in my native language.
Id just like say I really enjoy this new "oldschool" channel you guys made. Its simple and fun to watch.
The VAIO you are reviewing is very similar to the 2012 model S with internal upgrades. These laptops are built to last and are so light given how powerful they are.
Lol i didn't even know they've split up
Yeah. Happened around the time where pretty much the only things Sony were making money on were the Playstation 4 and health insurance in Japan. The movie studios, TV line, and computer line were all tanking at the time.
Who got the kids?
I really miss VAIO convertibles. Like I haven't seen anything like the Vaio Duo 11 / 13 (for a good reason, but the engineering that went behind it is really polarizing).
Thanks for the video! I haven't heard the Vaio name in years. My first notebook was the Sony Vaio SR when I started college. I knew Sony sold off their PC business, but I had no idea Vaio was still making computers in 2020.
My favorite part is watching him juggle 4 thousand dollars worth of laptop like it's no big deal.
I'm looking for an thin and light laptop with modern specs that can still take sd cards. So this actually looks interesting to me. Only thing bothering me is the top bezel on the screen and the tiny touchpad. I don't mind a "plasticky" feel as long as the flexinf means nothing gets broken.
I had a Sony Vaio 15" from 2011 until it just stopped booting last year and it was honestly impressive. 2.1 cm thick, 2 kg makes it still look somewhat modern today.
There's a lot of things that I love about this laptop, especially that it aggressively shuns all the horrible modern trends, the I/O is spectacular, as well as the understated design. But it has too many shortcomings for it to be worth $1900. Maybe a refresh with Ryzen 4000 APUs and a better display. It also needs a trackpoint-type mouse for it to be a business laptop. One modern trend that does make sense on a low powered small laptop is USB-C charging.
What is VGA?
The best laptop I've ever purchased was a 2010 Vaio, thanks for the review.
Dude, I'm getting a Dell?...
Vaio was far too overpriced for the specs in the package back then. Still too expensive nowadays
They make them feel really nice to use from my experience.
@@3vilMTV maybe so but there was something about Sony vaio that drew me to them
@@3vilMTV same here but as I buy alot of my devices as faulty and repair them, I make up alot of the savings that way!
The only Vaio I ever bought was only because it was on a 40% discount, suffered from a lot of thermal throttling but great otherwise
@@m4dm3th0d there may have been some modifications or just changing the thermal paste would help but alot of laptops do that!
"Everything that I remember from VAIO was very high quality" that's funny the name VAIO invoked pain and suffering into the very back of my brain all the way down to my soul. I thought I was gonna love it, especially with all those ports, but with build quality like that my impression of VAIO I guess isn't going to change
From my experience with VAIO, they are high quality until something breaks. Then everything starts falling apart and becomes too expensive to repair.
@@patx35 Sounds like Apple which they were in their times. I guess
@@patx35 indeed, when you work in the repair side of things that gives you a pretty poor view of a product
2000 Vaio and 2004 Vaio was great. 2012 Vaio was trash. So much bloat
You can get all the ports witch cheap adapters. Except TB3.
I like the track pad. It's very accurate. The vaio looks better to me, plus has more options with the ports, feels better for typing when I tested them, and is almost half the weight as the dell. It's a true ultra portable.
They still make them? I’ve always wanted one solely because of the “Vaio” font. Super clean imo
Love it too. It's supposed to combine an analog sine wave (the V-A) with digital (i-o) and rhyme with "BIO". Like, machine coming to life. Pretty nifty.
I'm still rocking my 2012 Sony Vaio. the GT520m is more than capable of playing Half life
Didn't know you got the alpha build of Half Life 3. *WOW*
You've been playing Half Life for 8 years?
What a silky smooth VR experience you'll have with Alyx
SimGunther What makes you say they have half life 3?
still using my xps17 with a gt550m. 720p Bf3 at 30fps while cooking an egg on it haha. For media it's still ok
Good review! I have to mention though: something's weird about the audio.. There's some high pitched background noise that I haven't heard on any other video from LTT.. or I'm just going crazy.
Well I've finally gotten too old to hear this high pitched noise. I'm guessing they can't hear it for the same reason maybe.
Does the noise happen at any specific time? Or is it throughout the video? I didn’t hear anything high pitched at all.
You mean music?
There is music in the background but it's so quiet I didn't know it was music at first and thought there were random noises too. If you're referring to something else then I'm not sure.
think the laptop is that loud.... :/
I bought a White ea series and it looked amazing back in 2010. It got me through hs and college. It was worth the money.
dude i still remember my white vaio laptop from 2010, the keyboard stopped working 2 years after i got it and it eventually died but in 2016 it got magically resurrected. good times.
I'm getting tired of saying this because noone ever seems to listen, but here I go again: angled keyboards are bad for your wrists. If you're not going for a full ergonomic design the best you can do for you wrists is have something perfectly flat. An angled keyboard that is also non-ergonomic will result in your wrists being twisted "wrongly" in two separate ways, rather than just one wrong way if you had a perfectly flat keyboard.
Guy Fawkes what if it’s tilted the opposite direction?
I feel the keyboard should be angled downward
Typing is easier tho
Laptops are ass in general when it comes to good wrist posture. Most people I know sit on the couch or in their bed with laptops, supporting the laptop with their palms while typing which results in all kinds of weird positions
@@jakobvanklinken Good thing they don't type all day on it and mostly watch/read stuff that way.
No one should type for a living on anything other than a desktop or a laptop with a dedicated keyboard plugged in.
I had a vaio the flex is designed so if you close it on a pen or object it doesn't crack screen
Selling a cost saving measure as an upside. Genius! :D
Of course a downside can also be an upside, however, I don't think they spend any extra money to make it extra flexible.
My first laptop was a Sony Vaio and it was built like a tank. Proper old-school rigid plastic, 4:3 aspect ratio display, an optical drive, a floppy drive, and two PCMCIA card slots.
9:06 If linus was doing that, we'd all be having panic attacks.
A couple things:
While true there are weird things about this laptop I think the market for this is misunderstood. (I wouldn't buy one either but I'm not the market)
Its not so much going for high - end but rather the enterprise which want a light durable laptop with no compromises on ports (Hence the VGA).
th-cam.com/video/D5PbHFeCWu4/w-d-xo.html shows waterproof + durability tests showing if something gets jammed between keys and screen it will be fine.
Sorta why the keyboard has that flex. So at least there is a reason.
Some unanswered questions.
How was battery life? does the dell fans ramp up if you plug it in as well while doing heavy tasks? Do they offer screen options (Think I saw a 4k option)
That said, even if it has precision drivers that trackpad is tiny!
If a vga port is the deciding factor for a company they need to learn what an adapter is.
@@harpskid Having worked in several workplaces, Lots of companies still have older equipment (projectors, monitors etc) lying around and are perfectly usable (which is good, saves money reduces e-waste etc. not saying upgrading is bad though).
For those, its inexcusable to waste time any time concerning ports (whether the user forgot the adaptor or one just happened to be missing, faulty adaptor etc). Corporations play it safe (especially when you have to deploy to a large quantity) and thats what this is for with all ports, even more-so if you go do presentations in tons of places.
wouldn't necessarily recommend it for your average person but different devices for a different market and you can tell this is one of them. The water resistant keyboard, flexibility for damage absorption (to absorb any dmg from things between screen and keyboard) and ports are proof of that.
@@harpskid the problem is old people just gonna stick to what they used to. If it work, there is no need to upgrade, because company has like hundreds of everything, and they only upgrade all at once not upgrade at all.
I'm just about to replace my 10 year old Sony Vaio. (It still works). You can't fault the Sony build quality. Would a new Vaio last that long?
What is the exact model of watch are you wearing?
This is something that i have dreamed about when i get my first laptop for studying 12 years ago.
It’s meant for businessmen who go to random meetings that still have VGA projectors, also the 4G modem. Japanese audience mostly... check out the review from Lisa at MobileTechReview, got a very nice in- depth review there.
Always appreciate these unboxing videos!
Her review is much more thorough and less biased.
they were overpriced and underpowered back in 2012.
and are more so now
I have one and honestly, its pretty durable since its still alive after 7 years of use BUT lacks power since mine only has intel i3 gen 4 with 4 gb ram. Vaio also restricted us to not upgrade to Windows 10 due to...hardware/software incompatibilities to most vaio laptops? I let it to be my family laptop and its still up and kicking ever since I gave it to them 3 years ago.
No they are not I have a sony vaio svz which has a quad core i7, 8gb ram and a 512gb raid ssd, and yet it is still faster than the current gen macbook air which is heavier
This new channel is great!
I like that he really going into details of the quality
So basically it's like going to a fine dining restaurant but when you get inside it's a McDonald's.
haha exactly!
At least McDonald's foods are cheap. This one is not.
Howard Lam tell me about it
I have a high end 13" vaio from about about 10 years ago. It seems to have better build quality than the new one and the performance is still perfectly good enough for daily use
I wanted to see Alex doing clever things in the 'workshop' with a his sweet machines - a real missed opportunity.
I know it's trying to differentiate, but is the vga port really necessary? For starters, it's not doing the aesthetics any favor.
Oh boy. I remember my old Sony Vaio. Windows 7. Intel i5, just 8 GB RAM.
RIP Vaio Notebook. RIP Windows 7.
That sounds exactly like the one I had
Vaio laptops should rest in hell
ill never forget my sony vaio pcg-frv40 with pentium 4, 1gb ram, windows xp
You can resurrect Win7 with a registry edit and manually installing updates every month.
@@dzvxo can I have the ram haha? I am repurposing an older laptop, using it as a home server, it works well but only has 512mb ram. It is also a pentium 4, I have windows 7 on it currently with XP drivers force installed and the WUSA bypass installed, meaning i still get security updates :D. RAM runs out very quickly on it, and the slow HDD doesn't help when the paging file is used.
My 500$ Lenovo Ideapad Flex seems high-end compared to this. Almost no deck flex, touchscreen and a decent sized clicky trackpad.
Maybe next time Vaio.
And with free spyware aswell :D (joke)
I've got the Flex 14 with the Ryzen3500U, and I really like it.
My $300 Motile laptop seems better than this.
And that my friends it's what i call a lie
So does my 300€ 6 year old Asus 2 in 1. Except for the 2012 Atom and 32GB eMMC in it that make it unusable though.
I have a 2013 Vaio and it holds up really well
So they have this type of hinge and no vents on the bottom? How does that makes sense
I can see this being appealing in enterprise applications. A fair amount of offices still use VGA as a primary display interface. However at the same time, still want less bulky machines. As for the track pad, Vaio may have also been anticipating that companies will also be providing peripherals, such as a mouse. Which could explain the lousy track pad.
Now that being said, I don't think that's an excuse for charging nearly $1900 for a sub par laptop.
For 1000 it would be an interesting proposition bc of the ports, pretty sure it would have a large market plus some business ppl and academics that still uses VGA and don't want to carry a Dongle for that
I have a old vaio it's white and it's windows 7 and it has this annoying loud wind vent thingy not sure what that is?
I have loved VAIO logo since i was a kid, looked futuristic 20 years ago and still looks good. Loved the mid-late 2000s designs. Aesthetically some of the 06-09 vaios with vista are ~ *chefs kiss*
10:13 🦀🦀🦀 SONY IS GONE 🦀🦀🦀
🦀 SONY IS GONE 🦀
That's some ASMR-level mic gain you got there bud
What is this video ratio? It's not 16:9 nor 21:9. Yet it kinda works as an in between and fits a pitch-to-fit for a 21:9 preventing head choppage.
It reminds me of these 10year old thinkpads we use in our server room with win xp on it
I love that he tries saying something nice from the laptop then goes to dell and is like “oh shit this is way nicer”
I agree that VAIO was a great manufacturer of quality products. Hopefully they get back to that philosophy soon.
Does anyone know where I can get that Dell lock screen wallpaper at 3:55?
It seems like Vaio did addressed most of the issues mentioned in their SX14 laptop, 4K display, carbon fibre and stuffs..... A review of the SX14 would be nice.
Check vaio's internal factory testing and you'll get why it is so important to keep the whole thing flexible.
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@@iz723 flexing protects the laptop from impacts by absorbing their energy instead of transferring it to more sensitive components
Wanting a tank chassis in a 0.8 kg laptop. Stop dreaming. Some compensation has to be made.
Plus something that can be flex does not necessarily mean it has a lower build quality. It just means that it has a lower rigidity.
for 1900 usd and only a 1080p screen, well i might ask for more
and the dell is cheaper, with less flex and a 4k TOUCHSCREEN
like... yeah
Elinzar Not liking this laptop much myself, but 4K screen on 13” laptop means slightly better picture quality but for much compromised battery life both from screen itself and load it puts on a GPU. I also never understood idea behind touchscreen on a laptop - not only it’s not very useful in general, if you do your screen is smudged and you need to clean it. I’d say the terrible touchpad is much bigger problem, but that applies to 99% of Windows laptops with very few having what I’d call acceptable.
@@maciejkornatowski3026 yep, its probably not that amazing, but for the price of these products i expect the money goes to something else in the laptop if is not the screen res or the touching capabilities
i prefer to get the tactil 4k screen, set the res in windows to 1080p and call it a day
i may not get the battery life back but i can spare the gpu and still have the 4k if o ever want to use it instead of... nothing
If they can fit a full size SD card reader in that then why did Dell abandon that for microsd a couple of years ago on their XPS 13 line?
How many channels do you people have?
is that a casio watch calculator?
I think so, I have one too
If it had a pointing stick it'd be the perfect replacement for my trusty X230
Just get the T480 modded as T25.. You can do it for less than 1900$
@@rkan2 What's this I hear? Do you have any more info on that?
@@summushieremiasclarkson4700 You can google it. There are a couple users from /r/thinkpad who did it. It isn't straight-forward mod, but not that difficult IMO.
Hey Alex! I was hoping I'd see you over here in subsidization land.
I’ve always dreamed of owning a Sony Vaio laptop
They literally kept the same design and features and just changed the internals.... also literally keeping same prices as back then when it cost so much to get something stylish - doest check out today!
I'm one the few people i know that actually DON'T want a touchscreen on my laptop, why would you want one? Just leaves smudges everywhere i'd be forever cleaning it
Agreed, I never get the need for a touchscreen on a regular formed laptop, whenever you touch it with your fingers it wobbles plus it's far more efficient with a mouse or other pointing devices... Also I rarely use trackpad, it seems too inefficient and highly unprofessional for serious tasks.
I used to be the same way until I tried a laptop with one. It's really useful.
Dude... how do you not open the laptop and see what it's like inside? Upgradability????
Looks like a blast from the past
Ah, the nostalgia, I bought a refurbished Sony Vaio back in 2011, it had a bizarre 3D screen that was a few cm thick (active shutter glasses) back when 3D was all the rage. Only had a GT540m so it wasn't that great at gaming.
Thank God 3D died. I was never a fan. SMH. One of the greatest gimmicks of our time!
I too got a refurbished Sony Vaio in 2011, but it was a "cheap" base model, no dedicated GPU, and a Pentium, paid $500 for it at Fries. It had terrible build quality, the rubber feet all came off and I lost them, it was heavy, battery life sucked, it was my first laptop my dad got me, I still have it, but its just collecting dust now 😂😂
"Stopped existing kind of?"
Oh you dont know how GOOD that old type touchpad is. For a gamer that using touchpad instead of mouse it feel incredible.
I DID try that full large touchpad with no physical left/right button. It is really the worst experience for me.
Did the xps hit full clock speed on battery? If it did, that would be insane laptop
i remember when Sony Vaio n Sony Ericson were good
I miss 12 inch laptops. I'm going to hold on to my X250 for a hot minute.
Hot minute=very short period of time
@@kenbee1957 Or an unspecified amount of time. The beauty of language.
My X220 is not dead yet.
My 810 Revolve is going strong, too 😁 gotta love the i7+SSD in a 11,5" package... and I built it from two dead ones for the equiv of about 200€
Get a surface pro
I don't get it with the big trackpads. I use ThinkPad T410 with 4.5 x 7.5 cm trackpad and I don't need anything else, also the big trackpads feel kind of weird because I touch them with my palm a lot.
I have a new 2022-2023 Vaio FE series review:
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