Jon Hawkins actually I was having trouble with mine yesterday, I cut out the filter and saw some small grass debris in there from when I set the lid down I imagine. So I put the weight back on and wrapped a rubber band around the straw to keep it from sliding. Rock and roll
I threw a cocktail down last weekend of 8oz green effect, 4oz RGS, 4oz Humic12, and 4oz Air8 per 1000 square feet with a similar hose sprayer. I followed option 2 and just leisurely sprayed at a lower dial level only over the 1000 sq ft area. Overlapping a few times. Refilled and repeated for each 1000sq ft area. First time using these products but I really think I'm already seeing some color pop in just a short week or so.
I used the Ortho sprayer for the first time the other day. It was connected directly to their concentrate bottle (for convenience). I walked almost as fast as I could and, when the bottle was empty, did a quick estimate of the sq footage I'd covered and realized the product was heavily over-applied. Your video helped me realize I should do this like I do solids. Next time, I'm going to calculate the volume of product I need to apply via the label, put it in the sprayer bottle, maybe dilute it a bit if needed, and then *turn down* the dial far enough that I need to walk the area at least twice. It's as simple as that. That's how I do solids-weigh into a bucket, choke down the spreader, and make at least two passes. The problem with that dumb dial is that it only determines the concentration of what comes out of the sprayer. That doesn't tell you anything about how much product you are applying per 1000 sf...that critical thing depends upon the concentration, the flow rate, **and** how fast you walk around. Your video made things click so that I don't need to worry about all that. As long as I put the right amount in the bottle for my area and need to walk over the area at least twice, it will be pretty good. Thanks!
Yeah, that did help. Viewing the dial more as a means to sync your walking speed with how long it will take to get the product down on the entire lawn evenly. Though I'm sure that something like weed killer or fungicide couldn't be applied like that cause unlike fertilizer, those chemicals shouldn't be applied over diluted. At least that's what I believe.
Just ordered some from the LCN last week. I can’t wait till it gets here! I’ve already got the Ortho sprayer. I can’t wait to throw it down on the Bermuda to see how it’ll respond. Trying to get lots of lateral vs upright growth. Thanks, John!
THANK YOU for this “how to” I’m used to using a 20 gallon hose-end sprayer. I looked at this Ortho sprayer and was completely mystified, it just did not make sense. Now it does! 😎
Nice video John. I was going to use a Shake Weight for my exercise while getting some watering and micro nutrients down, but now you just changed the entire game with the 3 in 1
I thank you so much for your information that Dial in sprayer Works perfect I can't walk very fast so if I'm gonna put down 10 oz Of product Per 1000 ft²and I tested it with Water and I set the dial all the way back to 1 and 1/2 teaspoon Now I may have to go over a section 3 or 4 times But I'm comfortable with that setting I'm thinking about even trying to do one tablespoon And see how well that setting does on 1000 ft² I enjoy your channel thank you for everything that you do🥰🥰
Great video John. Thanks for the tips once again. I really do like the 3 in 1 concept and it is so true. Get out, get some fresh air and good exercises!!!
Well done! Just did an application on my back lawn of the 0-0-2 Micro followed by the 7-0-0 Green tonight using the Dial N Spray. The 3 in 1, cant beat it! Thanks, I look forward to trying the 18-0-1
Greene Punch is coming!?!? Can’t tell you how excited I am. Can’t wait to be 100% organic next season. Also, I hope you do a video on Fall applications, so that we’re set for Spring growth. Thanks John!
Hello, love your vids. Quick question i wanted to confirm. Is level of mix as important, or is all that matters is that i get down say 3 ounces per 1,000? IE, if i have a sprayer set at a 1 oz/g mix rate, and just spray the area longer to get the 3 oz down, does the extra diluted material degrade its effectiveness, or will it still do the job if i spray 3 passes of 1 oz/g rate, to get to the 3oz of product put down (assuming 1 gallon covers 1000sq/ft area)?
I just me some of the air 8 and humic 12, I am new to nex products I ordered the 1 gal jugs and I have approximately 9000 sq ft. I have the ortho dial in spray. Not sure where to go next?
Awesome info and channel it has really helped with trying to focus my attention on soil instead of the grass itself , thank you for that! I am just getting into all this lawn after choosing to re do/start my lawn from scratch this spring laid down zoysia sod and ive got about 1000sq ft .. Ordered the bio stim pack and i am located in san antonio,texas temps are around 90+ daily now do you still recommend 6oz application at setting 1 . thanks for your help i truly appreciate it..
I'm getting 2 gallons in ~50s, so your mileage may vary. @Lawncology, I did notice that the ortho was not spraying product for the first few minutes, not sure if it was clogging or what... I had the dial set to 3oz on the Ortho and I was just getting straight water, using the full Bio-Stim pack (3oz rgs, 6oz h12, 6oz air8, 8oz micro), total 23oz, thoughts? Today when I was doing another part of my lawn, I decided to dilute to the full 32oz with water and change the dial to 6oz/gal and that was flowing really well.
I just divide what oz per 1000sqft I'm going to be putting down by 3 and set my dial to that oz #. Ex..... 6oz per 1000sqft is 6/3=2 so I set the dial to 2oz. I don't remember which video I watched to come up with that.
So what happens if you have 5,000 sq feet to spray, and you need 3 oz per 1,000 sq feet. So you would need 15 oz total over the 5,000 sq feet. So you set your sprayer to 2 oz per gallon and you cover 3,000 sq feet and find that you have already used all over product. So you have sprayed 15 oz over 3,000 sq feet or 5 oz per 1,000 sq feet. What I am getting at is it seems that you would need to calibrate your walking pace in addition to calibrating your dial and spray. So walk back and forth over your 5,000 sq ft area and see how long it takes you to cover the area. If it takes you 10 minutes, then That is 20 gallons. So you would need 15 oz / 20 gallons or set your dial at 3/4 oz per gallon. Does that sound right?
Thanks for the tip. Just what I needed (putting this in the vault). Anxious to try this new to me sprayer. I've used and still have a many Ortho hose end sprayers. Oh, can you spary the N-ext products directly onto a newly seeded lawn? Just an FYI. There's a typo above. You have fallow vs follow.
so after watching this video.. is my assumption correct in thinking that whatever the dial is set to, multiple that by two and thats how much product will come out in a minute. IE: dial set to 1.5 would release 3oz of product in 1 min @ flow rate of 2g/min? That keeps you in that 1min/1000 mindset, which would be a good plan on the bio pack which is 3oz/1000??
wouldn't dialing smaller make the product more diluted and dialing larger make it more concentrated? assuming the water still sprays 2 gallons a minute? i'm confused...i need 5 oz of product to cover 500 sqft. i can use at least 2 gallons of water but no more than 6. what setting should i have and how much time do i have? i feel i have only like 30 seconds to walk that area...please help thank you
well done. confirmation that you can/should bill the container with water(inert ingredient) on top of the chemical is something most 'experts' neglect to share with the DIY. What product do you recommend for crabgrass in southern texas; San Antonio area?
Here’s something to consider: 1 gallon RGS does 44k feet 1 gallon air8 22k 1 gallon humic 22k 1 gallon microgreene 22k That is everything in the biostimulant pack for just over 100.00
for about $35.00 lawn solution will sell 32 oz of their product that will do 32,000 sq ft. you would have enough for 2 applications for $35.00. that the cheapest thing you can do for lawn aeration.
Does anyone know if a larger container is available, either officially or as a hack? I have a 4000 square foot section of my lawn and if I want to apply post-seeding GreenePOP and RGS, that would require 60 ounces of product. I'd love to not have to break it down into two fills.
@@Lawncology The instructions that came with the overseeding pack said not to use a backpack sprayer because it required at least a 20:1 dilution. Is there flexibility with that?
So how do I translate this information to use my Chapin G36D hose end sprayer? Or, since I have not opened it yet, should I return it and get the ortho version? Thanks to converter apps for smart phones, I know for instance that 3oz is 6 tbsp. Chapin uses tbsp and tsp for some silly reason. By using your example instead of 1oz on the Ortho, I would use the 2tbsp on the Chapin? Or should I just continue to use my 10 gallon Northstar spot sprayer I have calibrated to get a certain amount of product per 1000'? But then I have the issue of having to water the product in after applying it so I can see the benefit of using the hose end sprayer. Just trying to determine my best option.
So if I mix two products at once, one at 3 ounces and one at 9 ounces per 1000 square feet do I set the dial to 6 since there is a total of 12 ounces of liquid?
I bought the Dial and Spray and when I use the broadcast pattern, it puts out way more than 2 gallons per minute... almost 3 gallons... When I use the shower pattern, it puts out 2 1/2 gallon per minute. Does this make sense?
I have about 2 thousand square feet if st Augustine grass I am getting bio first time DIY what is a good setting for the 3-1 ortho spray bottle Thank u
Hey man so the dial is basically a speed dial? More ounces I set it to the faster it will go? But if I set it to a low setting like 1 ounce or lower I can take my time? Does that mean more water will come out and dilute the product? Help me out man
John, so if I dilute all products and fill to 32oz, and set sprayer to 6, that will give me 3 mins to cover 1,000sf? Just checking my math because I'm using greenpunch!
I have a question about the Ortho Dial N Sprayer. I'm going to throw down some 18-0-1 @ 16oz per 1000. I will fill the canister to 32oz, but what dial setting do I put it on and what pace would I walk? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
John, I've been using a 4 gallon echo backpack sprayer and pre-mixing a cocktail of RGS, Air-8, Micros, and D-thatch in the proper amounts, then adding enough water to make a 1:7 ratio. So like 64 ounces of N-Ext 'cocktail', mixed with 448 ounces of water, shaken well. I could be mistaken but I think using this method I'm able to distribute just as much product in just as much time as the hose end sprayer method, but with greater accuracy. Also I don't own a hose that's long enough to quite reach the furthest parts of my yard right now. I'm spraying 20,000 sq ft of meyer zoysia turf that's in some pretty crappy clay soil (new home, built less than 2 years ago), hoping to improve drainage and organic matter over time. Is this a bad idea the way I'm doing it? Is the hose end sprayer method better?
John, I have a question about ratios as well. I was looking over the application instructions and its states... "We recommend a 20:1 dilution rate for applications of each product in the Bio-Stimulant package". Should that be AT LEAST 20:1? If you set it at 6 and cover 1,000 sq ft per minute that would be 43:1, I hope I did my math right, but that's covering a lot of ground quickly. I'm getting ready to give this GreenStart Package a shot. Thank you!
John. Just applied Air8 through the Ortho tonight and had a lot of clogging issues. I already had punched a hole in bottom of screen. Any help or advice that you have to correct the clogging issue? Thanks!
Scott Miller hey bud, did you have anything else in there? Or previously that wasn’t washed out? The 7-0-0 and the 0-0-2 if mixed with Air8 can cause coagulation.
Hey John. No, only applied the Air8 by itself. Filled container up to 32oz and sprayed it just fine and when I done a refill to finish up that’s when the problems started occurring. I did clean out container before adding the 2nd refill. I added more water inside the ortho container to see if that would thin out the Air8, but still no luck. Just water spraying out. Thanks man for any luck with this. 😄
Scott Miller hmmm... okay. Shook the bottle well? I’m trying to think if there’s anything else that would do it. Shoot an email to us and let me send you a replacement jug. I don’t know what would make that happen as it flows very smoothly on its own.
John. Yes sir, shook the bottle of Air8 well before pouring into the Ortho. Also when the Air8 wasn’t coming out of the ortho sprayer I even shook it, but still no luck. I know that the Air8 is thick, but I figured with the hole in the bottom of screen on the ortho and the hose end sprayer there would be no clogs. But I’m like you, can’t think of what it could be. Can I get your email and I will send you one. Thank you John!
Nancy Barnes as long as you know the coverage area of the premix that you are applying, then yes. Consider that there will be a lot more water being applied so you will need to take your time.
Lawncology ok thank you because l have clogged my hose end sprayer with humic12, soap and ammonia. I shuck it and it still clogged it. I used 8 ounces of humic12. If the Ortho is better at this I will buy one right now.
Yes, liquid soap and ammonia. I was using liquid soap and ammonia for a cheap green up before I started using the bio-stim pack. So I thought I'd do the same, I added the humic12 and it clogged the hose end sprayer. You think I should just apply humic12 on its own?
I had some issues with my Dial N Spray last summer with it not consistently spraying, having to shake it a lot to get the "brown" water, etc. I think I saw that you or someone had posted a video talking about how to avoid this but I dont recall what it was that was recommended.
SD Greengo hey bud, sometimes material can get stuck at the point where the straw connects to the sprayer. It’s flexible there and a slight tug will open up any clogs. I will be testing a different sprayer (although it’s still a Scott’s/ortho/miracle gro unit) it has a different way it pushes product out. No straws.
@@Lawncology I talked to one of the guys at the shop there and he mentioned something that hooks up to the wayer valve and then a sprayer but cant find the note I had written. I could have sworn it was you that had a solution with the ortho using a rubberband
@@Lawncology yep...ez flow...do you recommend just using any hose end sprayer attachment or is there something specific. Seems like he said to just walk the yard for 30 minutes but would take forever when applying 5 different liquids.
Hey John! I know you use the dial and spray but is there any added benefit of using a battery powered pump spray? Does one get better coverage than another?
The Lawn Guardian I like the hose end just because it’s easier to get even coverage. Do what’s best for your setup, but maybe water in the product if you use a back pack to get it washed in
Okay thanks, John! I was looking to buy a sprayer specifically to apply these products but I may hold off on that for the time being due to the cost of a good battery powered sprayer. Maybe a Christmas gift to myself later. Looks like I am going to be getting a hose end sprayer for the time being. One last question, I don't need to water in the product if I am using a hose end sprayer?
John, Can i mix all four products from the Stim Pack into this sprayer and adjust my feed rate to compensate for the additional solutions? I would like to keep from having to spray each product individually. Please advise. Thanks ahead of time!
Would you mind giving some insight into the science behind that answer? Are there certain bad interactions between certain N-Ext products when mixed, or are you concerned it will clog the sprayer or...? I had been assuming if you kept the product to water ratio right (1:7 or weaker) then it would be OK
Kyle T I would be worried about clumping, or perhaps clogging. Some of the items don’t mix well in concentrate as they have varying pH and components that don’t play.
So I am not wrapping my head around the dial part. I just bought the starter pack and the same Ortho hose end. If I am mixing 3oz of RGS and 3oz of Humic12 for a total of 6oz per 1,000 sf (I have 6,000 sf lawn total) how do I figure out this dial? I get the idea, I want 6oz of product to mix with 1gallon of water and to spray it evenly over 1,000 sf. From what I understand is that you are saying to set dial to 1 or 2 and spray but then I would need to keep an eye on the amount that I am spraying, correct? I would need to keep checking until 6oz has been emptied then I would move on to the next 1,000 sf. 🤷🏻♂️ Couldn’t they just make it simpler. 🤪
Okay definitely will do. But what exactly does setting 2 mean (product oz to water), just so I can better understand Ortho’s concept with this dial? When I set it to 2 do I just keep checking how much I have put out or should setting 2 coordinate to an actual amount of product in a certain time and thank you! 👍🏼🌱
Lawn Dad the 2 swatting means that 2 ounces of concentrate will come out every 30 seconds. 4 ounces per minute. One gallon of water passes through the nozzle every 30 seconds and picks up the amount set on the dial.
Regardless of setting almost, you only want a certain amount to be sprayed per 1k. Setting 6 or setting 1, only that area of the yard gets the product. You will find in time that you might need to increase the dial so your not constantly walking around the same 1K. That help?
Matthew Ferguson, yep I got ya, thanks. Basically this hose end sprayer isn’t a precise solution. It is designed to put out whatever you set the dial to (at a quick rate). If I set it to 1-2 and walk slower to get 3oz down per 1,000 sf I’ll be adding a lot more water than the 1 gallon it calls for but that doesn’t matter for these Next products all is good there. If I needed to add 2oz per 1 gallon of water for lets say a fungicide I can’t do it unless I sprint across my lawn because if I set it to 2 it will dump 2oz out in 30 seconds and 1 gallon of water if I take 60 seconds to walk 1,000 sf I will have added 2 gallons of water and 4oz of my fungicide. The only solution I see it to water down my fungicide making it 4oz instead of the 2. Then I could take 60 seconds to cover 1,000 sf but my fungicide will be watered down.
What about if I’m going to apply a product where I need to add 5 gallons of water per 1 galon of product.? How should I set my dial of the Ortho Dial and Spray ? Thanks
I'd like to know this as well. I want to use the sprayer to distribute Wet and Forget to my deck at a 1 to 5 concentration. What should I set the sprayer to? Anyone out here know?
That wouldn't be possible. The sprayers max setting is 8oz I believe. I am not certain if that means 120 oz water and 8 oz product, or 128 oz (one gallon) plus 8 oz, but it definitely won't do 22 oz or 32 oz per gallon.
Manny Chava yes it can. Set it to 2 ounces. You’ll only need a small amount of product, roughly 15 ounces to do your lawn. Walk at a standard pace and spray evenly. Be sure to remove or open the filter on the straw
Lawncology Thanks for the quick reply ! I’m in north Texas and have 2500sq ft of Bermuda . It’s in decent condition. I just applied some simple lawn solution liquid aerator about 3 days ago and it’s soften the soil a lot I’m impressed. I’m trying to get ready for the fall/winter season it’s get really could here but rarely snows and we get a couple of icings early in the year. I’m getting some air 8 and overseeding once it gets cooler. We’re still hitting 100 degrees What products you recommend. There’s so many and confusing. And what order would you do it . 18-0-8 greenstart rsg?
Appreciate all your videos. Would like to use 8oz of each (bio stimulant pack), total 32 oz. It will cover 2.500 sqft. What is the correct dial? Thankyou!
Timothy Henderson tell your “friend” that the results we’ve had in the medicinal field have been incredible. I ran programs in Northern California for a number of years. Quite simply, you can achieve robust plants on 1 ounce of 402 per week through the entire life cycle, veg/bud. It can also be use hydroponically and on indoor, but I’d need to k is the system before giving the rate.
Sorry. Still don't understand what setting to put it on for spraying Moss Out on a lawn. Jokes about exercise being part of the 2 in 1 feature is just distracting.
Can someone make sure my math is correct. I want to spray 5000 sq feet on dilution setting 1. By my math that means It should take me 15 minutes to spray 32 oz's to cover roughly 5000 sq feet. Good Lord I am so bad at math.
Do you cut the screen out? Mine has gotten build up and clogged
Jon Hawkins actually I was having trouble with mine yesterday, I cut out the filter and saw some small grass debris in there from when I set the lid down I imagine. So I put the weight back on and wrapped a rubber band around the straw to keep it from sliding. Rock and roll
Lawncology John, you wrapped a rubber band underneath the weight?
I threw a cocktail down last weekend of 8oz green effect, 4oz RGS, 4oz Humic12, and 4oz Air8 per 1000 square feet with a similar hose sprayer. I followed option 2 and just leisurely sprayed at a lower dial level only over the 1000 sq ft area. Overlapping a few times. Refilled and repeated for each 1000sq ft area.
First time using these products but I really think I'm already seeing some color pop in just a short week or so.
Captain Hiltz get ready for the 18-0
I used the Ortho sprayer for the first time the other day. It was connected directly to their concentrate bottle (for convenience). I walked almost as fast as I could and, when the bottle was empty, did a quick estimate of the sq footage I'd covered and realized the product was heavily over-applied. Your video helped me realize I should do this like I do solids. Next time, I'm going to calculate the volume of product I need to apply via the label, put it in the sprayer bottle, maybe dilute it a bit if needed, and then *turn down* the dial far enough that I need to walk the area at least twice. It's as simple as that. That's how I do solids-weigh into a bucket, choke down the spreader, and make at least two passes. The problem with that dumb dial is that it only determines the concentration of what comes out of the sprayer. That doesn't tell you anything about how much product you are applying per 1000 sf...that critical thing depends upon the concentration, the flow rate, **and** how fast you walk around. Your video made things click so that I don't need to worry about all that. As long as I put the right amount in the bottle for my area and need to walk over the area at least twice, it will be pretty good. Thanks!
Yeah, that did help. Viewing the dial more as a means to sync your walking speed with how long it will take to get the product down on the entire lawn evenly. Though I'm sure that something like weed killer or fungicide couldn't be applied like that cause unlike fertilizer, those chemicals shouldn't be applied over diluted. At least that's what I believe.
Just ordered some from the LCN last week. I can’t wait till it gets here! I’ve already got the Ortho sprayer. I can’t wait to throw it down on the Bermuda to see how it’ll respond. Trying to get lots of lateral vs upright growth. Thanks, John!
THANK YOU for this “how to” I’m used to using a 20 gallon hose-end sprayer. I looked at this Ortho sprayer and was completely mystified, it just did not make sense. Now it does! 😎
Nice video John. I was going to use a Shake Weight for my exercise while getting some watering and micro nutrients down, but now you just changed the entire game with the 3 in 1
I thank you so much for your information that Dial in sprayer Works perfect I can't walk very fast so if I'm gonna put down 10 oz Of product Per 1000 ft²and I tested it with Water and I set the dial all the way back to 1 and 1/2 teaspoon Now I may have to go over a section 3 or 4 times But I'm comfortable with that setting I'm thinking about even trying to do one tablespoon And see how well that setting does on 1000 ft² I enjoy your channel thank you for everything that you do🥰🥰
Great video John. Thanks for the tips once again. I really do like the 3 in 1 concept and it is so true. Get out, get some fresh air and good exercises!!!
breaking the barriers in lawn care with a 3-in-1!!!
Well done! Just did an application on my back lawn of the 0-0-2 Micro followed by the 7-0-0 Green tonight using the Dial N Spray. The 3 in 1, cant beat it! Thanks, I look forward to trying the 18-0-1
Greene Punch is coming!?!? Can’t tell you how excited I am. Can’t wait to be 100% organic next season.
Also, I hope you do a video on Fall applications, so that we’re set for Spring growth. Thanks John!
John you are awesome.
Been using the ortho about 2 years , easy and works better then others , good tip poking hole in pick up tube . Thanks again- you da man
I have a hell of a time screwing the top of the sprayer onto the tank. Always cross threads. Ugh, Any suggestions???
Hello, love your vids. Quick question i wanted to confirm. Is level of mix as important, or is all that matters is that i get down say 3 ounces per 1,000? IE, if i have a sprayer set at a 1 oz/g mix rate, and just spray the area longer to get the 3 oz down, does the extra diluted material degrade its effectiveness, or will it still do the job if i spray 3 passes of 1 oz/g rate, to get to the 3oz of product put down (assuming 1 gallon covers 1000sq/ft area)?
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I just me some of the air 8 and humic 12, I am new to nex products I ordered the 1 gal jugs and I have approximately 9000 sq ft. I have the ortho dial in spray. Not sure where to go next?
Thanks man!! That helped a lot
3 in 1 - this is a game changer.😂
Could at 3 oz and 21 oz water and then spray because that is the ratio recommend 7:1, the extra water is just that but it woukd guve you a nice pace
Does using this sprayer take the place of needing to water in the product after applying?
Please make a video showing us how to use th miracle grow powder In the dial N spray.
Awesome info and channel it has really helped with trying to focus my attention on soil instead of the grass itself , thank you for that! I am just getting into all this lawn after choosing to re do/start my lawn from scratch this spring laid down zoysia sod and ive got about 1000sq ft .. Ordered the bio stim pack and i am located in san antonio,texas temps are around 90+ daily now do you still recommend 6oz application at setting 1 . thanks for your help i truly appreciate it..
Don't when you change the dail for your walking speed you also change the product to how much water it should mix
I'm getting 2 gallons in ~50s, so your mileage may vary.
@Lawncology, I did notice that the ortho was not spraying product for the first few minutes, not sure if it was clogging or what... I had the dial set to 3oz on the Ortho and I was just getting straight water, using the full Bio-Stim pack (3oz rgs, 6oz h12, 6oz air8, 8oz micro), total 23oz, thoughts? Today when I was doing another part of my lawn, I decided to dilute to the full 32oz with water and change the dial to 6oz/gal and that was flowing really well.
Ryan Haarmann did you pull the filter? Put a hole in it or remove with pliers. Sometimes it has to prime
Lawncology yes I actually did, I followed your video first as a reminder of using the sprayer. I used a screw and it opened up a nice hole
I just divide what oz per 1000sqft I'm going to be putting down by 3 and set my dial to that oz #. Ex..... 6oz per 1000sqft is 6/3=2 so I set the dial to 2oz. I don't remember which video I watched to come up with that.
Bahaha! 3 in 1! Love it!
So what happens if you have 5,000 sq feet to spray, and you need 3 oz per 1,000 sq feet. So you would need 15 oz total over the 5,000 sq feet. So you set your sprayer to 2 oz per gallon and you cover 3,000 sq feet and find that you have already used all over product. So you have sprayed 15 oz over 3,000 sq feet or 5 oz per 1,000 sq feet. What I am getting at is it seems that you would need to calibrate your walking pace in addition to calibrating your dial and spray. So walk back and forth over your 5,000 sq ft area and see how long it takes you to cover the area. If it takes you 10 minutes, then That is 20 gallons. So you would need 15 oz / 20 gallons or set your dial at 3/4 oz per gallon. Does that sound right?
Thanks for the tip. Just what I needed (putting this in the vault). Anxious to try this new to me sprayer. I've used and still have a many Ortho hose end sprayers. Oh, can you spary the N-ext products directly onto a newly seeded lawn?
Just an FYI. There's a typo above. You have fallow vs follow.
I use the Scott's 5 n' 1 method...feed lawn, water lawn, exercise, drink beer, piss away money.
yeah.. i just cranked my neighbor's to 8 with humic 12 and tinted 200 feet brown with 16 oz lol. hopefully it doesn't kill it
so after watching this video.. is my assumption correct in thinking that whatever the dial is set to, multiple that by two and thats how much product will come out in a minute.
IE: dial set to 1.5 would release 3oz of product in 1 min @ flow rate of 2g/min? That keeps you in that 1min/1000 mindset, which would be a good plan on the bio pack which is 3oz/1000??
wouldn't dialing smaller make the product more diluted and dialing larger make it more concentrated? assuming the water still sprays 2 gallons a minute? i'm confused...i need 5 oz of product to cover 500 sqft. i can use at least 2 gallons of water but no more than 6. what setting should i have and how much time do i have? i feel i have only like 30 seconds to walk that area...please help thank you
well done. confirmation that you can/should bill the container with water(inert ingredient) on top of the chemical is something most 'experts' neglect to share with the DIY. What product do you recommend for crabgrass in southern texas; San Antonio area?
Assuming you’re a Bermuda lawn: quinclorac for post. Follow the label and repeat apps as directed.
would love these products but i have a 17000 sqft lawn and it would kill me price wise
Here’s something to consider:
1 gallon RGS does 44k feet
1 gallon air8 22k
1 gallon humic 22k
1 gallon microgreene 22k
That is everything in the biostimulant pack for just over 100.00
for about $35.00 lawn solution will sell 32 oz of their product that will do 32,000 sq ft. you would have enough for 2 applications for $35.00. that the cheapest thing you can do for lawn aeration.
My “friend” agrees with my other friend. The “ nut”. ☝🏻
With any thick product, I'd just dilute 1:1 and adjust accordingly.
How do I know if I can add water to the jug with the given product inside? What can’t I add water too?
Does anyone know if a larger container is available, either officially or as a hack? I have a 4000 square foot section of my lawn and if I want to apply post-seeding GreenePOP and RGS, that would require 60 ounces of product. I'd love to not have to break it down into two fills.
A back pack or small ez-flo is a good option
@@Lawncology The instructions that came with the overseeding pack said not to use a backpack sprayer because it required at least a 20:1 dilution. Is there flexibility with that?
@@davidlichtman568 yes there is, no less than 7:1
If you mix water with product in ortho sprayer, do you need to shake and mix together in ortho containers?
So how do I translate this information to use my Chapin G36D hose end sprayer? Or, since I have not opened it yet, should I return it and get the ortho version? Thanks to converter apps for smart phones, I know for instance that 3oz is 6 tbsp. Chapin uses tbsp and tsp for some silly reason. By using your example instead of 1oz on the Ortho, I would use the 2tbsp on the Chapin? Or should I just continue to use my 10 gallon Northstar spot sprayer I have calibrated to get a certain amount of product per 1000'? But then I have the issue of having to water the product in after applying it so I can see the benefit of using the hose end sprayer. Just trying to determine my best option.
So if I mix two products at once, one at 3 ounces and one at 9 ounces per 1000 square feet do I set the dial to 6 since there is a total of 12 ounces of liquid?
I bought the Dial and Spray and when I use the broadcast pattern, it puts out way more than 2 gallons per minute... almost 3 gallons... When I use the shower pattern, it puts out 2 1/2 gallon per minute. Does this make sense?
I have about 2 thousand square feet if st Augustine grass I am getting bio first time DIY what is a good setting for the 3-1 ortho spray bottle
Thank u
Adam Marino set to 2 ounces and enjoy the spray!
Is that the rate for micro green? 6oz per 1,000 square feet? The bottle say 10oz, which seems high
I just got one today, i set mines on at two, i think i will set mines at 1 1/2
It's 2020..time for the 4 in 1.feed/water/exercise and now drink beer at the same time...priceless...thank me later for marketing insight....;)
Hey man so the dial is basically a speed dial? More ounces I set it to the faster it will go? But if I set it to a low setting like 1 ounce or lower I can take my time? Does that mean more water will come out and dilute the product? Help me out man
What Sprayer setting would qualify as HIIT?
Tim Joseph multiple sets of 3 ounces per thousand. Also dropping the sprayer and picking it up. Untangling the hose is another wonderful excerise
I dont know if i get you, but lets say i have a chemical which am spraying 24ounces in 10g of water how do it tie in....with what you are saying
John, so if I dilute all products and fill to 32oz, and set sprayer to 6, that will give me 3 mins to cover 1,000sf? Just checking my math because I'm using greenpunch!
I have a question about the Ortho Dial N Sprayer. I'm going to throw down some 18-0-1 @ 16oz per 1000. I will fill the canister to 32oz, but what dial setting do I put it on and what pace would I walk? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
+Terry Fernandez 8 ounce and regular walking pace
John,
I've been using a 4 gallon echo backpack sprayer and pre-mixing a cocktail of RGS, Air-8, Micros, and D-thatch in the proper amounts, then adding enough water to make a 1:7 ratio. So like 64 ounces of N-Ext 'cocktail', mixed with 448 ounces of water, shaken well. I could be mistaken but I think using this method I'm able to distribute just as much product in just as much time as the hose end sprayer method, but with greater accuracy. Also I don't own a hose that's long enough to quite reach the furthest parts of my yard right now. I'm spraying 20,000 sq ft of meyer zoysia turf that's in some pretty crappy clay soil (new home, built less than 2 years ago), hoping to improve drainage and organic matter over time. Is this a bad idea the way I'm doing it? Is the hose end sprayer method better?
Kyle T no problem doing it that way at all! This is just an easier option for a lot of homeowners. Keep it up!
John, I have a question about ratios as well. I was looking over the application instructions and its states... "We recommend a 20:1 dilution rate for applications of each product in the Bio-Stimulant package". Should that be AT LEAST 20:1? If you set it at 6 and cover 1,000 sq ft per minute that would be 43:1, I hope I did my math right, but that's covering a lot of ground quickly. I'm getting ready to give this GreenStart Package a shot. Thank you!
John. Just applied Air8 through the Ortho tonight and had a lot of clogging issues. I already had punched a hole in bottom of screen. Any help or advice that you have to correct the clogging issue? Thanks!
Scott Miller hey bud, did you have anything else in there? Or previously that wasn’t washed out? The 7-0-0 and the 0-0-2 if mixed with Air8 can cause coagulation.
Hey John. No, only applied the Air8 by itself. Filled container up to 32oz and sprayed it just fine and when I done a refill to finish up that’s when the problems started occurring. I did clean out container before adding the 2nd refill. I added more water inside the ortho container to see if that would thin out the Air8, but still no luck. Just water spraying out. Thanks man for any luck with this. 😄
Scott Miller hmmm... okay. Shook the bottle well? I’m trying to think if there’s anything else that would do it. Shoot an email to us and let me send you a replacement jug. I don’t know what would make that happen as it flows very smoothly on its own.
John. Yes sir, shook the bottle of Air8 well before pouring into the Ortho. Also when the Air8 wasn’t coming out of the ortho sprayer I even shook it, but still no luck. I know that the Air8 is thick, but I figured with the hole in the bottom of screen on the ortho and the hose end sprayer there would be no clogs. But I’m like you, can’t think of what it could be. Can I get your email and I will send you one. Thank you John!
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Can I use a premixed Spectricide weed/grass killer in my Ortho Dial&Spray? The sprayer that came with the jug doesn't work?
Nancy Barnes as long as you know the coverage area of the premix that you are applying, then yes. Consider that there will be a lot more water being applied so you will need to take your time.
If I filled the entire 32 ounce with Humic12 would it clog the Ortho Dial and Sprayer?
HD MOVIE SOURCE should be fine. Just take the filter off or poke a hole in it
Lawncology ok thank you because l have clogged my hose end sprayer with humic12, soap and ammonia. I shuck it and it still clogged it. I used 8 ounces of humic12. If the Ortho is better at this I will buy one right now.
HD MOVIE SOURCE wait... mixed humic with soap and ammonia?
Yes, liquid soap and ammonia. I was using liquid soap and ammonia for a cheap green up before I started using the bio-stim pack. So I thought I'd do the same, I added the humic12 and it clogged the hose end sprayer. You think I should just apply humic12 on its own?
HD MOVIE SOURCE yes, ammonia will make the humic clump. We call it the “cottage cheese” effect
I had some issues with my Dial N Spray last summer with it not consistently spraying, having to shake it a lot to get the "brown" water, etc. I think I saw that you or someone had posted a video talking about how to avoid this but I dont recall what it was that was recommended.
SD Greengo hey bud, sometimes material can get stuck at the point where the straw connects to the sprayer. It’s flexible there and a slight tug will open up any clogs. I will be testing a different sprayer (although it’s still a Scott’s/ortho/miracle gro unit) it has a different way it pushes product out. No straws.
@@Lawncology I talked to one of the guys at the shop there and he mentioned something that hooks up to the wayer valve and then a sprayer but cant find the note I had written. I could have sworn it was you that had a solution with the ortho using a rubberband
SD Greengo you’re talking about an ez-flo. They work great
@@Lawncology yep...ez flow...do you recommend just using any hose end sprayer attachment or is there something specific. Seems like he said to just walk the yard for 30 minutes but would take forever when applying 5 different liquids.
@@Lawncology which one are you referring too? I think Greene County needs to come out with their own hose end sprayer.
Hey John! I know you use the dial and spray but is there any added benefit of using a battery powered pump spray? Does one get better coverage than another?
The Lawn Guardian I like the hose end just because it’s easier to get even coverage. Do what’s best for your setup, but maybe water in the product if you use a back pack to get it washed in
Okay thanks, John! I was looking to buy a sprayer specifically to apply these products but I may hold off on that for the time being due to the cost of a good battery powered sprayer. Maybe a Christmas gift to myself later. Looks like I am going to be getting a hose end sprayer for the time being. One last question, I don't need to water in the product if I am using a hose end sprayer?
Hey John, Do you get out to Tooele much, I could sure use the help on these products?
Jason Brunson not too often, but perhaps I can help? What can I answer for you?
John,
Can i mix all four products from the Stim Pack into this sprayer and adjust my feed rate to compensate for the additional solutions?
I would like to keep from having to spray each product individually.
Please advise. Thanks ahead of time!
James Ritchie I would limit it to two at a time
Would you mind giving some insight into the science behind that answer? Are there certain bad interactions between certain N-Ext products when mixed, or are you concerned it will clog the sprayer or...? I had been assuming if you kept the product to water ratio right (1:7 or weaker) then it would be OK
Kyle T I would be worried about clumping, or perhaps clogging. Some of the items don’t mix well in concentrate as they have varying pH and components that don’t play.
So if only two at a time, which two go well together at a time?
Mix RGS mix with Air8. Mix Humic12 with MicroGreene
You should also label it as gluten free 😂
My lawns just under 5,000sq, if I wanted to do humic 12 and rgs at same time will I be able to do it in 1 application?
pwasylak02 if you apply at the 3 ounce rate on both, then yes. That would put 15 ounces of each over 5000ft.
Lawncology thank you sir. And still leave it on setting 2 correct?
So I am not wrapping my head around the dial part.
I just bought the starter pack and the same Ortho hose end.
If I am mixing 3oz of RGS and 3oz of Humic12 for a total of 6oz per 1,000 sf (I have 6,000 sf lawn total) how do I figure out this dial?
I get the idea, I want 6oz of product to mix with 1gallon of water and to spray it evenly over 1,000 sf.
From what I understand is that you are saying to set dial to 1 or 2 and spray but then I would need to keep an eye on the amount that I am spraying, correct? I would need to keep checking until 6oz has been emptied then I would move on to the next 1,000 sf. 🤷🏻♂️
Couldn’t they just make it simpler. 🤪
Lawn Dad set to 2 and walk casually!
Okay definitely will do. But what exactly does setting 2 mean (product oz to water), just so I can better understand Ortho’s concept with this dial?
When I set it to 2 do I just keep checking how much I have put out or should setting 2 coordinate to an actual amount of product in a certain time and thank you! 👍🏼🌱
Lawn Dad the 2 swatting means that 2 ounces of concentrate will come out every 30 seconds. 4 ounces per minute. One gallon of water passes through the nozzle every 30 seconds and picks up the amount set on the dial.
Regardless of setting almost, you only want a certain amount to be sprayed per 1k. Setting 6 or setting 1, only that area of the yard gets the product. You will find in time that you might need to increase the dial so your not constantly walking around the same 1K. That help?
Matthew Ferguson, yep I got ya, thanks. Basically this hose end sprayer isn’t a precise solution. It is designed to put out whatever you set the dial to (at a quick rate).
If I set it to 1-2 and walk slower to get 3oz down per 1,000 sf I’ll be adding a lot more water than the 1 gallon it calls for but that doesn’t matter for these Next products all is good there. If I needed to add 2oz per 1 gallon of water for lets say a fungicide I can’t do it unless I sprint across my lawn because if I set it to 2 it will dump 2oz out in 30 seconds and 1 gallon of water if I take 60 seconds to walk 1,000 sf I will have added 2 gallons of water and 4oz of my fungicide. The only solution I see it to water down my fungicide making it 4oz instead of the 2. Then I could take 60 seconds to cover 1,000 sf but my fungicide will be watered down.
Did u cut off the filter lol mine would not screw off
CC CC stabbed a hole in the filter
Lawncology done!!!
Do u sell the products in bulk?
What about if I’m going to apply a product where I need to add 5 gallons of water per 1 galon of product.? How should I set my dial of the Ortho Dial and Spray ?
Thanks
I'd like to know this as well. I want to use the sprayer to distribute Wet and Forget to my deck at a 1 to 5 concentration. What should I set the sprayer to? Anyone out here know?
That wouldn't be possible. The sprayers max setting is 8oz I believe. I am not certain if that means 120 oz water and 8 oz product, or 128 oz (one gallon) plus 8 oz, but it definitely won't do 22 oz or 32 oz per gallon.
Hello . Can air 8 be applied with this hose end sprayer. What setting for an2500 sq ft yard ?
Manny Chava yes it can. Set it to 2 ounces. You’ll only need a small amount of product, roughly 15 ounces to do your lawn. Walk at a standard pace and spray evenly. Be sure to remove or open the filter on the straw
Lawncology
Thanks for the quick reply !
I’m in north Texas and have 2500sq ft of Bermuda . It’s in decent condition. I just applied some simple lawn solution liquid aerator about 3 days ago and it’s soften the soil a lot I’m impressed.
I’m trying to get ready for the fall/winter season it’s get really could here but rarely snows and we get a couple of icings early in the year.
I’m getting some air 8 and overseeding once it gets cooler. We’re still hitting 100 degrees
What products you recommend. There’s so many and confusing. And what order would you do it . 18-0-8 greenstart rsg?
Hmmm.... mine runs 2 gallons in 1:15 minute even with the filter cut out.
Appreciate all your videos. Would like to use 8oz of each (bio stimulant pack), total 32 oz. It will cover 2.500 sqft. What is the correct dial? Thankyou!
Anyone else looking for what kind of plane flew over?
Hey John. Does green county only focus on lawn applications? Have you considered a cannabis formula? Big market now. Asking for a friend.
Timothy Henderson tell your “friend” that the results we’ve had in the medicinal field have been incredible. I ran programs in Northern California for a number of years. Quite simply, you can achieve robust plants on 1 ounce of 402 per week through the entire life cycle, veg/bud. It can also be use hydroponically and on indoor, but I’d need to k is the system before giving the rate.
Lawncology I was just trying to be silly. But it would be interesting to see some vids on that progress even if it’s another channel
Timothy Henderson haha! Well... been down that road. I can help people grow things!
can we get a 4-2-0 product to replace the 402? I feel like that would work better for this vertical.
I see what you did there...
How many calories you burn per minute with one of those :)
Too late.... I did 800 Oz per gallon lol
So if I add multiple products what changes with the settings?
I wouldnt add them together, keep each app independent so that you dont get clogging issues.
Lawncology thank you
Sorry. Still don't understand what setting to put it on for spraying Moss Out on a lawn. Jokes about exercise being part of the 2 in 1 feature is just distracting.
Lol 3-1 ... Sarcasm at its finest.
Can someone make sure my math is correct. I want to spray 5000 sq feet on dilution setting 1. By my math that means It should take me 15 minutes to spray 32 oz's to cover roughly 5000 sq feet.
Good Lord I am so bad at math.
So you’re planning on 6 ounces per thousand of something? Each thousand square feet will take 3 minutes at that setting. So yeah, you are correct.
@@Lawncology I failed high school algebra, thank you