Violent unrest, state of emergency as New Caledonia independentists accuse France of recolonization

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  • France ordered troops to guard ports and the international airport in its Pacific territory of New Caledonia as a state of emergency started Thursday after two nights of riots left four dead and hundreds wounded. Turmoil erupted after France's national assembly backed hotly-disputed changes to voting rolls that indigenous Kanak leaders say will dilute their vote. FRANCE 24's Mark Owen is joined by Mikaa Blugeon-Mered, adjunct lecturer on French Overseas Territories' Geopolitics at Sciences Po.
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  • @marykinuthia6067
    @marykinuthia6067 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Get out of the colonies 😢😢😢.

  • @CNinnovations
    @CNinnovations 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    Indépendance Now

    • @upheaver
      @upheaver 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And what's the plan post-independence? Bend the knee to the highest bidder? Looking at the map its not hard to guess who it would be...

    • @iABY2959
      @iABY2959 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@upheavertell us who?

    • @Tribuneoftheplebs
      @Tribuneoftheplebs 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@iABY2959 China. And it's not happening. The West will not allow Chinese military to station there

  • @ModernAffairs.
    @ModernAffairs. 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Please dont kill the resistance everyone has a right to have their forgotten homeland back from Colonialism. Viva la revolutions

  • @quinnnewman9538
    @quinnnewman9538 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    I support independence for the island but everyone on the island should have a democratic right to vote

    • @QueenetBowie
      @QueenetBowie 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      If it was given as a choice to islanders twice in the last 5 years and both times the majority voted not to go independent, it makes sense to keep them as part of France. I’d the majority voted for secession then sure, but democratically it seems like the majority of the island doesn’t want to leave.

    • @questionmore4675
      @questionmore4675 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      you are lying,you mean any tourist visiting America should have the right to vote?

    • @barriekerr3273
      @barriekerr3273 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      First, if there was a vote on the subject of decolonization, it should have been limited to 40% of the descendants of the original inhabitants; these individuals should have the only say, not the descendants of the settlers. Imagine if the Israeli settlers in occupied Palestinian territory were asked to vote on whether or not to keep the land as property of the Palestinians-it's about as legitimate, only in terms of New Caledonia, as the subject here is intergenerational.

    • @chisomahamba379
      @chisomahamba379 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why would everyone in the island vote 🤔, only the indigenous people of Caledonia got to vote in their own country’s election and not the colonizers living their, what did you think colonizers will vote, they will start to creat all kinds of laws to vote on and then pump all the white French from France to Caledonia and they steal Caledonia and start taking their lands and killing them like Britain stoled Australia aboriginals, do you have sense at all 🤔.

    • @covfefe1787
      @covfefe1787 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@barriekerr3273 not if the majority of white people in New Caledoni have lived there for 100 years or more. New arrivals are not from France but come from neighboring island country who make up 40% of the population only 10% of the island have been born in Metro France and not all of them are white french there is a Algerian muslim population too.

  • @ModernAffairs.
    @ModernAffairs. 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    European colonialism shame on you for your brutal past and present history.

    • @jaystrickland4151
      @jaystrickland4151 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Shame on the independence movement you lost the vote and now try and deny it to others.

    • @jamesgo2014
      @jamesgo2014 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jaystrickland4151where they denied? To the colonizers?

    • @jaystrickland4151
      @jaystrickland4151 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jamesgo2014 They voted to be a part of France that means the French living there are not colonizers.

    • @jamesgo2014
      @jamesgo2014 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jaystrickland4151 who voted? The natives? Or the settlers?

    • @jaystrickland4151
      @jaystrickland4151 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jamesgo2014 the rules of the referendum excluded roughly 2/3s of the European population. Even with the scales tilted heavily in pro independence movement they could not win.

  • @RUTHLESSambition5
    @RUTHLESSambition5 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    France still clinging on arent they😂😂😂😂 Desperate acts of a dying empire

    • @geoffoakland
      @geoffoakland 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      A majority voted twice not for independence. The 'independenists' are a minority.
      Just like in Greenland, the independence political party gets less than 10% of the vote. The money they get from Denmark gives them a high standard of living, ,almost 40,000 euros per capita income

    • @user-vq1pt7yw9l
      @user-vq1pt7yw9l 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@geoffoakland majority Europeans ?

    • @geoffoakland
      @geoffoakland 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@user-vq1pt7yw9l the Europeans are actually a minority in both places, meaning even among the natives most voted against independence because the know their Healthcare, housing welfare all come from France (Denmark) in Greenlands case. If a majority were to vote for independence, so be it. They will have to make do on their own. And who will come step in if France were to leave? That's right, China, and we all know how that will work out.

    • @ksitali149
      @ksitali149 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@geoffoaklandIn Greenland, pro-independence parties have been in power since 1979. What nonsense are you talking about?!

  • @NANIKTV-my8in
    @NANIKTV-my8in 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Give them independence. All other pacific Islands are independent countries. Why is French still the colonial power??? In the 21st century??

    • @Ggnmgjhg
      @Ggnmgjhg 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Because the new Caledonians are educated and smart enough to know that ANYTHING is better than becoming American or Chinese

    • @frankyyaggabot6222
      @frankyyaggabot6222 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Had three referendums to date and they said they wanted to remain with France. But I guess you speak for them!

    • @milibibi2152
      @milibibi2152 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@frankyyaggabot6222no they did not, settlers say no to independance...of course...

    • @jaystrickland4151
      @jaystrickland4151 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The people voted to remain a part of France. The independence movement is a violent minority.

    • @jamesgo2014
      @jamesgo2014 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Ggnmgjhgnew Caledonians? Are they the native?

  • @AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv
    @AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Overseas territory always seemed like a contradiction to me.

  • @ThatFijianGuy
    @ThatFijianGuy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    France GET OUT OF THE PACIFIC!!

  • @youtubeuserzzzz
    @youtubeuserzzzz 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Get out France! Can people in French Guiana, French Polynesia or even New Caledonia, vote in regional France affairs? Get out France. Metropolitan France has so many problems of its own.

    • @ZoomZoomMX3
      @ZoomZoomMX3 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The price of gasoline, good, health care would all go through the roof including schooling.
      A tiny island is like northern Canada without being inside the bigger group you will pay far more for everything.
      What rights are suppressed? Marrying younger girls or some religion?
      Why bother separate?
      How are you suppressed?
      Where's the information for the argument?

    • @covfefe1787
      @covfefe1787 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      New Caledonia voted to be seperate from Metro France and be its own territory French Guiana is part of Metro France and they vote in French elections. EU law also applies to them. French Guiana is like Hawaii while New Caledonia is like Puerto Rico.

    • @braticuss
      @braticuss 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, they can vote in all French national elections. How about doing a minute worth of research before speaking about something you know noting of.

  • @2msvalkyrie529
    @2msvalkyrie529 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Victimhood has discovered a new client base.!!

  • @awake3362
    @awake3362 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    French territory?
    No to colonialism and exploitation in the 21st century. Independence now for the natives.

  • @cuc6410
    @cuc6410 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's not French territory, time to go home

  • @questionmore4675
    @questionmore4675 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    the people dont want france lord over them.

    • @kizgintosbaga
      @kizgintosbaga 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      they probably judge themselves. "what kind of people are we to allow french to lord over us"

  • @fleurelise997
    @fleurelise997 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Do New Caledonians have any say in Fr political affairs? No? Then let the people have their independence. Stop pretending this whole voting referendum is not about France still obtaining the country's nickel revenue.

  • @jaroslavkriz6848
    @jaroslavkriz6848 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Stop the french colonization. It is ridiculous for the island in the Pacific to be a part of France. If the colonization continue the local Kanaks will lose their island.

  • @josephmara1892
    @josephmara1892 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kanak are native and original people who seeking independence. Colonial settler need to go back France 🇫🇷. France should learn from Algeria 🇩🇿

  • @Ratimir101
    @Ratimir101 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Free New Caledonia 🇳🇨
    Imperialists 🇫🇷 go home

  • @Roonoh_Official
    @Roonoh_Official 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    France should just accept the will of Islanders.

  • @PurestBollocks
    @PurestBollocks 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great analysis.

  • @greatgalaxy2118
    @greatgalaxy2118 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Crimea is not Russia, but 10 thousand KM away New Caledonia is France, lol.....

  • @CalumLogan
    @CalumLogan 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Get up ! Stand up ! People of the world ...

  • @fibo2459
    @fibo2459 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    New Caledonia, French Polynisia, Comores, St Martin, Martinique, Guadeloupe, Haiti. When is France going to come with a sustainable solution to its former territories who are all on the brink of civil war? Is France still able to govern and convince a diverse population?

  • @roelralutin7805
    @roelralutin7805 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I'm for their independence. But france should try looking for ccp hand in there. Honiara is not far away.

    • @kamsunleong6648
      @kamsunleong6648 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sure let's blame China. Nothing to do with the recent voting reforms by Paris

  • @yderelio
    @yderelio 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That’ s why France banned tiktok? Really?
    Does it fit with “freedom”? So sad…

  • @pisceanboy13
    @pisceanboy13 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'd side with the Kanaks, if it weren't for the fact that they had multiple opportunities to vote for independence via referendums but failed to do so. So now they cannot blame the colonizers for not achieving independence.

    • @Fate_trades
      @Fate_trades 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The issue with the third referendum was that they requested a delay due to the large number of elderly people who died during the COVID pandemic, resulting in numerous funerals. They were concerned that their people wouldn't be able to go to the polls. Given that the Kanaks are in the minority, they must do their best to bring together as many people as possible. However, this becomes difficult when some are at the cemetery, others in the hospital with their family, and family is an important value in the Pacific islands.

    • @grayday14
      @grayday14 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Fate_trades when it comes to drinking ,they are there for breakfast time!

    • @asmirann3636
      @asmirann3636 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You are ignorant. Natives are only 40% of the population. While the European migrants and settlers are 60% of the population.
      Natives would loose every referendum because they are lesser in numbers.
      French have orchestrated a population replacement of the Natives.

    • @braticuss
      @braticuss 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Fate_trades They voted 3 times.

  • @robertlee6338
    @robertlee6338 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    5:18 Australian Aborigines were not mistreated in Australia, Aborigines were hunted instead of foxes for sport

    • @kizgintosbaga
      @kizgintosbaga 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yeah. birits and their love of sports. they play the same game in America too. it was a continential genocide history never witnessed and will never vitness again.

    • @braticuss
      @braticuss 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kizgintosbaga The Mongols were worse. They removed a larger percentage of the world's population than another other group in human history.

  • @zolandia5262
    @zolandia5262 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What is the economic relationship between France and New Caledonia? I'd imagine New Calefonia would be subsidised massively by mainland France.

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      French should just leave them to
      get on with it.! They can sell coconuts or grass skirts to make a
      living . Good luck and Au Revoir...😂

    • @grayday14
      @grayday14 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      true its the best place in the area because of that ,but after this mess ,im taking my family to a safer country

    • @fleurelise997
      @fleurelise997 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@2msvalkyrie529 France wants to continue to exploit the country's nickel supplies. It's all about greed.

  • @peeptweet
    @peeptweet 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Azerbaijan will support the Kanak people in their quest for liberation. The global community must address French fascism and extreme nationalism.

  • @andrewlim9345
    @andrewlim9345 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I see parallels between race relations in New Caledonia and Malaysia. Both societies seem fragmented alone ethnic lines with indigenous populations fearing being swamped by immigrant populations. Both Kanaks and migrant populations regard New Caledonia as home but disagree about the direction of the territory.

  • @Aimancitizens
    @Aimancitizens 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ça me rappelle les indépendantistes corses qui ont reclame la meme situation ? 👇

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Macron asked China to build ports for New Caledonia.
    That empire and Australia were worried and angry.
    Whenever there are developments that go against the interests or hegemony of the Empire.
    This type of drama will happen.

  • @uck8978
    @uck8978 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Maybe they want another referendum?🤔

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Maybe have a referendum ABOUT
      having a referendum..?

    • @uck8978
      @uck8978 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@2msvalkyrie529 this deserves a separate referendum of itself😅

    • @grayday14
      @grayday14 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@uck8978
      they are too drunk to vote

  • @atrismith7487
    @atrismith7487 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Kanaks would be very happy to recieve all the special payments of aboriginals in Australia .And who will be looking after the Kanaks if they gain independences They will be given Australian money and end up in Australia Welfare System or working if they are inspired too work

  • @ModernAffairs.
    @ModernAffairs. 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Peace freedom Justice is for everyone

  • @rubeng729
    @rubeng729 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Or you could send the foreign legion, pacify them, make everyone vote an stay there until they understand

  • @adrianhudek9111
    @adrianhudek9111 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Russia

  • @ModernAffairs.
    @ModernAffairs. 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Make New Caledonia Native Again

  • @grayday14
    @grayday14 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    some work for their life and to get ahead but Kanaks just lay around all day beg ,smoke drink,then they claim unequal life ,everyone has the same opportunities but not everyone wants to take advantage ,I know because every day I see it

  • @contra18765
    @contra18765 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Overseas territory? You mean Colonies?

  • @sportszone9159
    @sportszone9159 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    French colony that's it

  • @zolandia5262
    @zolandia5262 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Notable use of "prepone" by the guest. Not a word.

  • @sherbajwa7443
    @sherbajwa7443 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Leave other people's countries alone.

  • @stupidburp
    @stupidburp 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    C C P influence, probably

    • @brunoalbano616
      @brunoalbano616 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      More Russia, they love this type of instability. China is friendly to France, as De Gaulle recognized CCP rule of China 60 years ago and France is friendly to China. A New Caledonia close to China would cause an Australian intervention. If this causes a bot reaction, you can be sure of it.

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Macron asked China to build ports for New Caledonia.
      That empire and Australia were worried and angry.
      Whenever there are developments that go against the interests or hegemony of the Empire.
      This type of drama will happen.

    • @xxoo-lp6vc
      @xxoo-lp6vc 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@brunoalbano616The empire and AUS angry, Macron asked China to build port.

  • @faqashdhangax4884
    @faqashdhangax4884 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I live another country I can vote they're citizens

    • @vivekudayakumar5039
      @vivekudayakumar5039 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ur country is not ruled by the French government, isn't it??

    • @vivekudayakumar5039
      @vivekudayakumar5039 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ur country is not ruled by the French government, isn't it??

  • @2msvalkyrie529
    @2msvalkyrie529 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This so called " lecturer " attempt to explain the current situation was painful.
    I lost the Will to Live after 10 minutes.

  • @DebadritoDutta
    @DebadritoDutta 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Shameless people...the colonizers are lectureing

  • @amosgenga321
    @amosgenga321 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The dangers of colonialism and imperialism.

  • @CaptainKGF1
    @CaptainKGF1 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    😂😂😂 , those who lecture world on hypocrisy democracy values will see widefire in own capital streets as they invited middle east in home...for last 200 years.😂😂😂😂😂

  • @wdp7128
    @wdp7128 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Them Kanaks are completely correct.
    If the laws are adopted,
    They would be disenfranchised.
    Like those original people of Australia.

  • @robertlee6338
    @robertlee6338 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Apartheid