New Caledonia has HUGE amounts of nickel which France has hauled out by the tonnes for years and years, earning FRANCE a fortune. New Caledonia is given a slice, but only a meagre slice.
Vous devriez vous renseigner mieux les calédoniens ont des lois TRES favorables à leur independance et ont perdu TROIS fois les TROIS référendum sur l'indépendance malgré un mode de scrutin TRES en leur faveur. Ce sont des MAFIEUX ! Ils ont même assassiné leur leader historique jean-marie Djibaou. Ce sont des psychopathes.
Keeping law and order. If the insurrectionists gain control is this the sort of indigenous state you want, where looting and rioting are par for the course and mob rule is sanctioned?
@@Kvasiirnah actually Tibet and chinese have much in common etnically and linguistically what does kanaks and caucasian french have in common france is weak there are several player who can break them 😈
As an outsider, it seems to me that Paris is trying to pull a fast one over the indigenous Kanak people, so it’s no surprise the Kanaks have responded in a violent manner.
...a very easy answer.... The French have never given up any of their colonies without a fight, e.g. Algeria and Vietnam. Their treatment of indigenous folk is consistently reprehensible.
@kevinmcgrath7953 ...didn't miss it at all, but don't get confused by the extremely small number of vocal indigenous folk who rely heavily on fly-in, fly-out Parisians for their livelihood.
@@Asgoga Tell that to the colonial master is still uses her power to influence the results. Or you truly believe the people really want to remain under colonial control forever
no. Haiti is what it is because of Haiti. There are plenty of French colonies doing perfectly well today. You truly underestimate the human tendency to self mutilation.
The French always bring up Haiti as a warning to all others they oppressed to keep them under control. Don't worry about Haiti, worry about the treatment of the natives in your territories aka colonies. I am Haitian and proud of my country although we are facing difficulties. I would much rather be poor and free, than be poor, oppressed, and own by a bunch of foreigners on my own native land.
Stop French colonization. It's ridiculous for an island in the Pacific to be part of France. If colonization continues, the local Kanaks will lose their island and become a minority in their homeland.
@@christopher8022 buddy, lets be real. most people living with a $3 minimum wage isnt going to be using cars or living in concrete buildings anyway. this is the loophole of capitalism. Does not matter who votes most, no one is required to contribute to any other group of people in any way.
@@jeanthill7497we can't change what happen hundreds or even thousands of years ago , but we can change what is happening infront of our eyes rn , any French can go there , spend 10 years and then gains citizenship and the right to vote for the destiny of the country
Yes but some immature ones are the potential of vultures… France is pampering New Caledonia since decades and it is a chance … see what happened in Vanuatu… In Haiti… we should avoid this.
it wasn't so fro Artsakh for 35 years Armenians in their ancestral lands had a democracy but Azerbaijan ethnically cleansed the region. Now The Azeri's are causing problems in the middle of the pacific.
Full support for New Caledonia independence. The French have huge Nickel mines along with other minerals and they have been mining for many years. This is the real reason it's taking so long for the indigenous Kanak people to get their independence.
@@chinglee100 Says a descendant of enslavers. Many island nations around Africa are doing fine after their independence. More to that, their freedom is their choice. It's better to be free than be a slave under a rich nation
How did France occupy a place thousands of miles away from their homeland without us knowing? The island is huge. And they dare point finger at others. Sneaky francos
00:25 it’s important to note that the latest referendum was protested by the local population because it was during COVID and the indigenous people were disproportionately suffering at that time, they asked to delay the vote but Paris rejected their request
@@carkawalakhatulistiwa How much French money have you and your family accepted? Why oh why would you want NC to turn its back on France, which has given large amounts of money to build a good society in NC over decades? Do you really think that China or Azerbaijan will give as much to the Kanaks as France has already done? Why destroy the shops that feed both Kanaks and Caldosh? Or is the whole sorry state of affairs being driven by hot heads who have no interest in either the Kanaks or the Caldosh and are only interested in looting and then burning the businesses that feed them?
No, the reason why is because France had just done a vaccine rollout, and they did their overseas departments (New Caledonia, French Guinea, Tahiti etc) BEFORE Metropolitan France because the government knew that the locals there needed the vaccines more. This made the French government hugely popular for a moment of time with the people of New Caledonia and the independence parties knew this, which is why they chose not to vote knowing they would lose in a landslide, and decided to save face by boycotting. The excuse of “COVID really effected us Kanaks and our burials!” Is a fabricated lie.
Independence voted down three times by an agreed referendum. Riots in 1980's and again now. Do the Kanaks really believe they can gain independence by arson and out of the barrel of a gun? I don't think so.
@@robertchautardjensen6846 because Native Kanak population is shrinking now they're around 41% of its population meanwhile French immigrant population is increasing
What about all the people that have lived there their entire lives that don't want independence? They don't get a say? Why does democracy only seem to matter to people some of the time?
Caledonia is the Kanak natives' country, all other non-Kanak immigrants were brought in by the French colonist, they are not qualified for Caledonia independence referendum which only the natives are qualified for.The France-brought-in immigrant population is bigger than Kanak population, given their votes in the referendum of course they vote against independence. Approving non-Kanak native immigrants to vote is the French colonist's plot to fail Caledonia independence referendum.
How long must you have resided in New Caledonia to have a say? Many non-Kanak have been there for generations. In Sweden, immigrants can become Swedish nationals after five years of residence. In France (Hexagone), it's ten years. The law makes no difference between nationals, claiming that some must not hav a say.
@@petraravn5421 The West laws are not international laws. The non-Caledonian immigrants are not allowed to have a say over Caledonian soveriegny, they can have a say of Caledonian construction.
The irony in all of this is that France tried to change the New-Caledonian electorat with French supporters while the immigrants are doing the same in France right now. What France is living with its immigration issues is what Corsica and New-Caladonia have been living under French imperialism … ahh the irony !
Only different is France just send their people to New Caledonia they controlled, no one send immigrant to France and no host country control France Immigrantion =/= coloznaion
@freedombro6502 China never did anything to the Kanak people, unlike France which literally enslaved them. So go away with that kindergarten logic, whoever the natives choose to do diplomacy with is none of your concern.
@@freedombro china has no control near australian waters. The natives know that if china plays up, they can just throw them out and the local countries will support them. they know what they are doing.
Free Kanaky which the colonizer changed its name to New Caledonia. The Kanak people are indigenous to Kanaky(New Caledonia). France must end its colonization, looting and all its known .... in Africa and elsewhere it did colonized and committed crimes for many, many years affecting 100s of millions in their own countries, regions and continents.
@@blazer9547 Yes, Turks did worse but France was historical ally of Ottomans and thanks to Paris they expanded. That continues even now, France support harassment of Serbs in Kosovo and Bosnia where literally Ottoman Empire 2.0 is getting built.
The silly thing is that if colonial powers were not so greedy they should give respect to the kanaks and give them royalty like 35% and make them citizens of france as well as nui caladonia.duel like the settlers.Also give them the same benefits and rights as french citizens
New Caledonia kanaks the original people must be given the mandate to choose their own destiny. If its Independence or self government then let it be. This is the 21st century and FRANCE Government must seriously protect and respect the kanaks. That's where all the Melanesians have been living for generations and thousands of years. New Caledonia and West Irians should be free from foreign dominations and given back their liberties like any other Pacific island nations.
@@jakesaunders8955do you know that indigionous kanak makes 40 percent of The entire population? Most are caldoches thats why The referendum fail...Thats indigionous Kanak land ..France should leave...They want independence 😊
@@jakesaunders8955the 3rd 1 was boycotted and the turnout to vote was far less due to covid-19 restrictions therefore a 91% remain. 1st was 41% 2nd was 47% both done 2 years apart the 3rd was done less then 12 months after the last 1 and the French used the Covid-19 pandemic to it's full advantage and the 3rd referendum was also viewed by everyone even the EU as illegal. The 3rd referendum should of been held at 2022.
This isn’t true, French rule is popular given 3 referendums for independence was rejected. I say the end of this is more likely self-government under French supervision in which the island governs itself.
@@jakebhenry2228you colonists always fail to mention that the final election was boycotted in any other situation the results would be denounced but since it benefits you frogs you ignore that detail and repeat this 1/2 truth!
I wonder can Russia and others help now with weapons and experts to freedom fighters like France do in Ukraine or not if they will ask them for help?what will be the difference?
Hi IronMan-if4ke, who makes up more of The population Kanak or caldoches? And New caledonia is for Kanak or caldoches???😊if you know The answer then stop Saying The Referendum
Just vote and get a majority of residents to vote for independence. France won’t get its feelings hurt, and more likely be glad no longer have to pay a fortune for that island, its infrastructure and services. But I have a sneaky suspicion that locals, like those in Corsica, want that safety net financial guarantee from 🇫🇷.
They've got natural resources especially nickel. If nationalised or a Norwegian style sovereign fund is formed with the funds from the nickel mined and managed properly it will be be the 3rd wealthiest nation behind Australia and New Zealand in the south Pacific in it's own right.
who cares . There is absolutely nothing more valuable than freedom. In Vietnam we had very tough times after wars with France US China ..ect.. but now we are doing just fine.
The French claim it is an integral region of France. But when it came to the EU, France claimed New Caledonia was NOT an integral region of France. NC does not use the Euro, it uses the Pacific Franc. New Caledonia does NOT vote for MEPs, and is NOT represented in the European Parliament. The Schengen open border agreement does NOT apply to New Caledonia. Kanaks have no rights to work in the EU.
Give the Kanaks independence and not the European settlers. They are not children anymore but men. They speaks France as French man. I want the Frenchman to give them independence.
There was a time when Europeans thought that everywhere should be Europe, and had little to no regard for other people's lived experience in places outside of Europe.
French Neo colonialism at its finest. I am actually happy that Russia has upset the imperialist status quo in "French West Africa" No amount of Euros will douse the indigenous Kanak peoples will for independence
You can't be the brightest if you think Russia has liberated the people... They just replaced their influence their own and now watch the decline of living standards for the ordinary citizens. Only leaders will benefit. Africa 2.0 with Russia the neo-colonialist.
@@scottscouter1065Hawaii still has a native population that does not want to be part of the US. Hawaii itself only became a territory of the US after the overthrow of the monarchy at the behest of American sugar interests and the sentiments against US rule were born from this.
@@jesusaguilar4585 Hawaii has a very diverse population. Some members of indigenous Hawaiian population have advocated for independence but they have limited support within even within their own communities. The advantages of being US citizens are too good to give up.
@@scottscouter1065 I'm sure there are some advantages for sor some native peoples in Hawaii as there are for some in the mainland but when it counts for them in times of crisis such as the recent mass fires you will see that the money and funding will not go to them but rather to areas for redevelopment of private interests groups.
@@blazer9547 France passed laws that purposely hard for indigenous people to vote. I love how you're so deluded you can see clearly it's not a minority otherwise 1000+ soldiers would not be needed.
i've been to Noumea several times when i was working in fisheries, its the headquarters for SPC (secretariat of the pacific commission). its a lovely place but i rarely saw any indigenous people when i was there.....
@@pipfox7834 ...yeah, I've been to other places where even tho the indigenous were pushed to the margins, they still can be seen working in the shops, restaurants ...but I notice in Noumea even the the staff there were few kanaks. I stayed at Casa Del Sol and would walk to SPC even the shops there and restaurants were staffed by asians and french and other pacific Islanders. But then again I only saw a small part of Noumea
@zoluhwa3508 yes, only a really good knowledge of an entire locality with all neighbourhoods included will show what the trend is. Often the two communities are almost separate
This is a mess. 44% of the population are indigenous Kanaks. 33% are French. 23% are “other”, mainly Indonesians, Vietnamese, Islanders from elsewhere in the Pacific etc. The “others” and the French vote together on most issues. This means the Kanaks are outvoted every time. France needs to get out of the Pacific.
So you are saying 44% should determine the outcome come of the another 56%. What is your argument people are not equal? If you believe in that logic then Britain’s may as well rule the world again. 😂
@@MrWhitmen1981 1. New Caledonia was included in the UN decolonisation list in 1946. This was reconfirmed by the UN Decolonisation Committee on 28 October 1987. The French response on both occasions was to claim it was an integral region of France. 2. The French Socialist Government of Mitterand promised and prepared a bill in April 1985 to move New Caledonia towards independence by 1986 through a referendum. This did not take place. 3. At the 1988 Paris talks the Matignon Accord was reached, providing the broad framework of a ten year transition plan leading to the decolonisation of New Caledonia. This did not take place and let to riots. 5. Between 1990 and 2013, the population of New Caledonia grew from 169,000 to 256,000. During that 23 year period the New Caledonia birthrate dropped from 17.53 per thousand to just 8.72 per thousand, almost exactly half. This means means that most of the 87,000 population increase were external arrivals, mostly from France.
@@rosshilton Demographics is destiny. The French know that. The Kanaks know that. It is exactly for this reason that the protests have turned violent very quickly and that in return, France will do everything it can to crush the rioters. I simply hope from the bottom of my soul that the situation in New Caledonia will not evolve into a new Algeria.
Yeah let's not immediatly crucify france for not giving independence to a colony that voted 3 times to stay a colony. I'm all for independence to all nations but a lot of times these colonial areas actually receive more money from the government than they produce. I'm going to need more information to make up my mind. Maybe it really is just a bunch of hooligans.
Are you referring to protests in US universities? If so you're a brainless wonder. Those protests are because the US government funds 60% of the Israeli military and the IDF killed over 35,000 innocent people, and so the students AS US CITIZENS are protesting their government. The US government doesn't fund and prop up the French government.
Are you referring to protests in US universities? If so you're a brainless wonder. Those protests are because the US government funds 60% of the Israeli military and the IDF killed over 35,000 innocent people, and so the students AS US CITIZENS are protesting their government. The US government doesn't fund and prop up the French government.
There were 3 times referendum to get independent if they wanted - all 3 times they voted to stay part of France. Now, some are upset that French people who lived their for 10 years could vote. Lots of strange comments here. Some people need to be educated.
In this context, France hasn't changed that much since the 1800s. They have terrible relationships with all their former colonies. It's very easy to see why, from Central African Republic to South America they are constantly trying to take from and advantage of the people. Their policies are still as racist as when they were in control of North Africa. Makes me wonder why their culture is so exalted around the world
lol effectivement... ils finiront comme Haïti ou Madagascar soit un des pays les plus pauvres de la planète. C'est comme si tu disais aux Haïtiens de rejoindre les Brics...Mayotte a beaucoup moins de ressources naturelles que Haïti ou Madagascar alors je te dis pas la catastrophe...les chinois s'en moqueront complètement des origines kanak des habitants. @@chavex2209
Les brics n'acceptent pas les petits pays pauvres et l'impérialisme religieux ou communiste sont encore plus asservissants que l'impérialisme occidental...ils ne pourront même plus être libres de s'exprimer. La situation géographique intéresse les chinois pour y disposer des sous marins nucléaires en face de l'Australie. J'espère qu'ils seront indépendants pour que les gens s'aperçoivent de la triste réalité géo politique.
Concerning membership of the BRICS, the basis of which is initially based on two strictly economic criteria, but not forgetting the political issues, a unanimous vote of the five countries is required, as in the Security Council, or membership in NATO. , a single country with a veto that can block any membership.
The French should really build New Caledonia with the billions and billons of dollars that its been robbing from there for such a long time. And let New Caledonia be a totally independent country.
It is unbelievable that there are still the colonized places in the world. Strong countries still exploit small countries. So sad. Just let all places independent.
Nickel is commonly used in Electric Car Batteries, so is Cobalt which is almost exclusively mined in the Republic of Congo in Africa .... Which is also facing a Civil War.
So you telling me you were not able to find a single Kanak person to talk to you about their situation or you just chose not to do it and instead invited two European academics for the narrative?
Kanaks represent 39% of the population of New Caledonia and their population increases compared to other communities. The Kanak people enjoy wide autonomy and run many territorial institutions. What to say in comparison to the situation in Australia or New Zealand, where the native populations were exterminated (3% of the Australian population) (15% of the New Zealand population) and where their autonomy is marginal. They could also talk about the fate of the native populations of North or South America and their degree of autonomy. Anti-French criticism is based on prejudice...look in your own country at the fate of minorities before criticizing others.
That is no excuse to continue the subjugation and exploitation of the Kanak people, which is also in violation of the UN Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and People. Kanaks voted 100 % for independence, the fact that the French colonizers want to continue the exploitation is completely irrelevant to the rights of the Kanak people according to international law and UN Charter. As Nelson Mandela said “only through hardship, sacrifice and militant action can freedom be won” and the Kanak people deserve freedom.
New Caledonia has HUGE amounts of nickel which France has hauled out by the tonnes for years and years, earning FRANCE a fortune. New Caledonia is given a slice, but only a meagre slice.
Vous devriez vous renseigner mieux les calédoniens ont des lois TRES favorables à leur independance et ont perdu TROIS fois les TROIS référendum sur l'indépendance malgré un mode de scrutin TRES en leur faveur. Ce sont des MAFIEUX ! Ils ont même assassiné leur leader historique jean-marie Djibaou. Ce sont des psychopathes.
Classic colonialism . Very sad. Godspeed independence and safety🎉🎉🎉.
The real question should be: What is France doing there?
Resources. The Island is rich with Nickel.
This island has 25% world nickel reserves
That’s right! Just leave Pasifika alone France has damage our islands
Keeping law and order. If the insurrectionists gain control is this the sort of indigenous state you want, where looting and rioting are par for the course and mob rule is sanctioned?
@@rogerevans7119You are about Ukraine?
When European say territory it means colony, right?
When some random TH-cam comment say one thing it mean the other thing, right ?
Like Tibet? Oh wait..
@@Kvasiirnah actually Tibet and chinese have much in common etnically and linguistically what does kanaks and caucasian french have in common france is weak there are several player who can break them 😈
@@Asgoga Does not change fact that France is in Europe and NW is 1700 km in the pacific. Piss off or dont cry about the boats
Forceful occupation
As an outsider, it seems to me that Paris is trying to pull a fast one over the indigenous Kanak people, so it’s no surprise the Kanaks have responded in a violent manner.
as an outsider your opinion doesnt count
France "pulled a fast one" since 1853,
This is not a civil war. Stop sending the wrong signal. Kanaks are the indigenous land owners. Why should an European country decide their destiny?
Why is China rulling over the People of Tibet?
Why is Russia rulling over the Dagestani People or the tschetschen people?
@@dszxnavtiisx6384 all countries are ruled by the same central banks. To believe in sovereignty when their economies are wholly owned is lunacy.
...a very easy answer....
The French have never given up any of their colonies without a fight, e.g. Algeria and Vietnam. Their treatment of indigenous folk is consistently reprehensible.
guess you missed the part of the segment where they rejected independence multiple times
@kevinmcgrath7953
...didn't miss it at all, but don't get confused by the extremely small number of vocal indigenous folk who rely heavily on fly-in, fly-out Parisians for their livelihood.
@KIA-MIA-POW 3 largest nickel producer in the world with only 300 thousand people could be 1 of the richest countries in the World
@@ambessaseway5594 No it couldnt nickel isnt worth that much
@@flapjawspace61 I doubt comments like his are actually concerned with the details, they exist to create discord.
end colonialism
Tell that to New Caledonians who rejected independence by referendum 3 times.
@@Asgoga Tell that to the colonial master is still uses her power to influence the results. Or you truly believe the people really want to remain under colonial control forever
Colonialism is long over
The natives dont want them there, rhats all. Those votes were fraudulent, you cant have a vote on occupied territory. @@Asgoga
@@AsgogaYES They are caldoches not The Kanak.This is indegious Kanak land not France or Western Land...
See what they've done to Haiti
Haiti has been free for a long time, almost 2 centuries. Now Haiti is very poor and constantly in chaos
@AnushkaChathuranga-cw7tc maybe first 10-20 years but had 200 years independent!
no. Haiti is what it is because of Haiti. There are plenty of French colonies doing perfectly well today. You truly underestimate the human tendency to self mutilation.
What happens when you let children run the house.
The French always bring up Haiti as a warning to all others they oppressed to keep them under control.
Don't worry about Haiti, worry about the treatment of the natives in your territories aka colonies. I am Haitian and proud of my country although we are facing difficulties. I would much rather be poor and free, than be poor, oppressed, and own by a bunch of foreigners on my own native land.
Boy France is having a rough time with its colonies. Got kicked out of Africa and now this. It better not let it turn into a little Algeria debacle.
It was never theirs in the first place. Damn thieves. Russia and China should support the natives militarily.
Neden izin verilmesin.
Fransız halkının da canı yanmalı ve kanı akmalıdır
Where are you from ? Just tell me to be curious ...
They don't treat their territories good
Stop French colonization. It's ridiculous for an island in the Pacific to be part of France. If colonization continues, the local Kanaks will lose their island and become a minority in their homeland.
Yes that's right they could be like the Solomon islands with gravel roads and tin sheds as the main Building Structures
@christopher8022 if that is what people want that is how people should be allowed to live.
Don’t end colonisation
@@christopher8022 buddy, lets be real. most people living with a $3 minimum wage isnt going to be using cars or living in concrete buildings anyway. this is the loophole of capitalism. Does not matter who votes most, no one is required to contribute to any other group of people in any way.
@@nvmttwith rising sea levels they might want to know to have you know mechanics that under stand boat and car engines. 😂
French settler colonialism has made the indigenous Kanak people a minority in their own land.
Tell me where are you from and then I tell you about the story of your country...
@@jeanthill7497we can't change what happen hundreds or even thousands of years ago , but we can change what is happening infront of our eyes rn , any French can go there , spend 10 years and then gains citizenship and the right to vote for the destiny of the country
Yes, just like the Anglo Australian and New Zealand colonialism. Oooops, sorry....
Correction... Forceful occupation by France of New Caledonia.
Caledonia had 3 referendums on independence
And the 3 referendums don't count... because? 🤔
No we are french, born french, since 6 generations. Stop spreading false informations
@@kristijangrgic9841 There was a referendum in Russian occupied Ukrainian territory also
@@dav5844 27%😂😂
Independence is the right of every nation
Yes but some immature ones are the potential of vultures… France is pampering New Caledonia since decades and it is a chance … see what happened in Vanuatu… In Haiti… we should avoid this.
@@vanillacuttings56 France is there to gain Nickel and resources, all exported to France. Indigenous are most impoverished in french territories
it wasn't so fro Artsakh for 35 years Armenians in their ancestral lands had a democracy but Azerbaijan ethnically cleansed the region. Now The Azeri's are causing problems in the middle of the pacific.
@@eric6616what is artsakh is it condom?
@@RGJ757 the invention of the condom is older than so-called "Azerbaijan" state. Look it for your self
Full support for New Caledonia independence.
The French have huge Nickel mines along with other minerals and they have been mining for many years.
This is the real reason it's taking so long for the indigenous Kanak people to get their independence.
No kanaks have been a minority since the 19th century... There has been many votes for independence all have failed..
The indigenous people want their freedom. Forget about the votes of people who were transported there to up match the people
Not all indegenous, and not the majority of New Caledonians. So they try to make a coup.
Gerrymandering
If they get their freedom their quality of life will get worst and become just another 3rd world country 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@chinglee100 Says a descendant of enslavers. Many island nations around Africa are doing fine after their independence. More to that, their freedom is their choice. It's better to be free than be a slave under a rich nation
@@pujolmathieu You can't speak for them. The problem is the law that France wants to impose on them
FRANCE SHOULD GIVE CALEDONIA INDEPENDENCE
Good idea, Independence from civilised society and order. Within a month these coconuts will be demanding a hand outs from Australia
@@zb1307 Typical French arrogance.
Azerbaijan should have recognized Artsakh instead of ethnic cleansing they committed in 2023
Why?
We are in 2024 and the French still have a colony. 😐
You do not understand democracy . . . 🙂
It's an Overseas Territory.
@@thorpeaaron1110COLONY
@@90taetaeya A colony with subsidies from the central government? With a GDP/capita higher than most of its neighbors?
And no, I am not French.
Still a colony @@Ayayau57
Free New Caledonia…. 🇳🇨 independence for New Caledonia…
How did France occupy a place thousands of miles away from their homeland without us knowing? The island is huge. And they dare point finger at others. Sneaky francos
Where have you been? France has had more than 80 colonies.
00:25 it’s important to note that the latest referendum was protested by the local population because it was during COVID and the indigenous people were disproportionately suffering at that time, they asked to delay the vote but Paris rejected their request
This is BS and a weak excuse, the fact is the Kanaks agreed to three referendums and they lost 3 to zero.
@@robertchautardjensen6846 they lost because Paris imigran have more Population than native
@@carkawalakhatulistiwa How much French money have you and your family accepted? Why oh why would you want NC to turn its back on France, which has given large amounts of money to build a good society in NC over decades? Do you really think that China or Azerbaijan will give as much to the Kanaks as France has already done?
Why destroy the shops that feed both Kanaks and Caldosh?
Or is the whole sorry state of affairs being driven by hot heads who have no interest in either the Kanaks or the Caldosh and are only interested in looting and then burning the businesses that feed them?
@@robertchautardjensen6846 With the garlic-scented votes you carry from France
No, the reason why is because France had just done a vaccine rollout, and they did their overseas departments (New Caledonia, French Guinea, Tahiti etc) BEFORE Metropolitan France because the government knew that the locals there needed the vaccines more.
This made the French government hugely popular for a moment of time with the people of New Caledonia and the independence parties knew this, which is why they chose not to vote knowing they would lose in a landslide, and decided to save face by boycotting. The excuse of “COVID really effected us Kanaks and our burials!” Is a fabricated lie.
I visited New Caledonia in 2022. It was such a beautiful and peaceful place. The island Lifou outside the main island is just mind blowing.
Independence to Caledonia
It's not what the people want.
Independence voted down three times by an agreed referendum. Riots in 1980's and again now. Do the Kanaks really believe they can gain independence by arson and out of the barrel of a gun? I don't think so.
China has entered the chat.
Never Europe should rule this world
@@robertchautardjensen6846 because Native Kanak population is shrinking now they're around 41% of its population meanwhile French immigrant population is increasing
There's no need for referendum just give the kanak people independence
What about all the people that have lived there their entire lives that don't want independence? They don't get a say? Why does democracy only seem to matter to people some of the time?
@@sidnas92 People from four oblasts in Ukraine would agree with you . . . 🙂
@@sidnas92 france can keep paying their salaries, if they really care about them in truth.
Stand With Caledonia From Iran
🇮🇷❤️🇳🇨
@@ElamiteMan
Free Kurdistan ! Free Balochistan !
@@varoonnone7159
Ok Lindu
@@ElamiteMan
Will you be bitter during this whole Indian century ?
Caledonia is the Kanak natives' country, all other non-Kanak immigrants were brought in by the French colonist, they are not qualified for Caledonia independence referendum which only the natives are qualified for.The France-brought-in immigrant population is bigger than Kanak population, given their votes in the referendum of course they vote against independence. Approving non-Kanak native immigrants to vote is the French colonist's plot to fail Caledonia independence referendum.
How long must you have resided in New Caledonia to have a say? Many non-Kanak have been there for generations.
In Sweden, immigrants can become Swedish nationals after five years of residence. In France (Hexagone), it's ten years. The law makes no difference between nationals, claiming that some must not hav a say.
@@petraravn5421 The West laws are not international laws. The non-Caledonian immigrants are not allowed to have a say over Caledonian soveriegny, they can have a say of Caledonian construction.
@@kimduong2332 Wow! Having lived there for six generations, you do not have a say about the future of New Caledonia! Are you serious?
Javanese (Indonesian) have been live in New Caledonia since colonial era , they speak french and I don't think they consider themselves Indonesian. 😅
@@petraravn5421Go ayaw coloniser
The irony in all of this is that France tried to change the New-Caledonian electorat with French supporters while the immigrants are doing the same in France right now. What France is living with its immigration issues is what Corsica and New-Caladonia have been living under French imperialism … ahh the irony !
Only different is France just send their people to New Caledonia they controlled, no one send immigrant to France and no host country control France
Immigrantion =/= coloznaion
Underrated comment...this is the truth
France literally fighting to keep a rock in the pacific but will surrender French cities without a fight.
Make New Caledonia Native Again
And it will go down the drain
@@Darryl-o3zthen so be it... not your decision🤷🏿♂️
Make Europe European Again
Can't bring the Lapitas back unfortunately - the Kanaks made sure of that!
@@TheRealZeke2003 yes and stay there
Freedom & Independence..✊Equal rights for all. End oppression, colonialism and illegal imperialism around the world!!
Haha naive.
China will replace France in this case.
Is that what you call independence? 😂
@freedombro6502 China never did anything to the Kanak people, unlike France which literally enslaved them. So go away with that kindergarten logic, whoever the natives choose to do diplomacy with is none of your concern.
@@AH1-sr3bh
But China is no less a colonizer than France. Just ask a Tibetan.
@@freedombro china has no control near australian waters. The natives know that if china plays up, they can just throw them out and the local countries will support them. they know what they are doing.
@@freedombroGo ayaw coloniser
2024 France still has colony land? what a civilized western world.
What happened to old calendonia
Caledonia is a alternate name for bonnie Scotland.
@@raclark2730 never heard of it 😂
Is like call new york. As old york town in England
Free Kanaky which the colonizer changed its name to New Caledonia. The Kanak people are indigenous to Kanaky(New Caledonia). France must end its colonization, looting and all its known .... in Africa and elsewhere it did colonized and committed crimes for many, many years affecting 100s of millions in their own countries, regions and continents.
Turks did worse.
They voted to stay with France, 3 times.
Azeri Turks are behind the riots
French should just pack up and go.
@@blazer9547 Yes, Turks did worse but France was historical ally of Ottomans and thanks to Paris they expanded. That continues even now, France support harassment of Serbs in Kosovo and Bosnia where literally Ottoman Empire 2.0 is getting built.
One of their tradition is cannibalism.
French lands 10000 miles away? Naah
Down with the European colonialism
COLONIAL TERRITORY😢
It's how a republic and French Polynesia is known as "country" but they aren't really independent!!😢🇵🇫🇳🇨
The silly thing is that if colonial powers were not so greedy they should give respect to the kanaks and give them royalty like 35% and make them citizens of france as well as nui caladonia.duel like the settlers.Also give them the same benefits and rights as french citizens
France is back to democracy Louis XIV style.
New Caledonia kanaks the original people must be given the mandate to choose their own destiny. If its Independence or self government then let it be. This is the 21st century and FRANCE Government must seriously protect and respect the kanaks. That's where all the Melanesians have been living for generations and thousands of years. New Caledonia and West Irians should be free from foreign dominations and given back their liberties like any other Pacific island nations.
They have been given the right, hence the vote for independence. They voted no 3 times...
Nice, so they will fall under Chinese influence and find a new master. Not sure if Australia will be happy to have a Chinese military base near by.
@@jakesaunders8955do you know that indigionous kanak makes 40 percent of The entire population? Most are caldoches thats why The referendum fail...Thats indigionous Kanak land ..France should leave...They want independence 😊
@@jakesaunders8955the 3rd 1 was boycotted and the turnout to vote was far less due to covid-19 restrictions therefore a 91% remain. 1st was 41% 2nd was 47% both done 2 years apart the 3rd was done less then 12 months after the last 1 and the French used the Covid-19 pandemic to it's full advantage and the 3rd referendum was also viewed by everyone even the EU as illegal. The 3rd referendum should of been held at 2022.
@@jakesaunders8955they were made minority therefore the referendum is free and fair because the colonial power brought planted new people
FREE NEW CALEDONIA
French colonialism is the real issue here. The indigenous people are tired of France and its criminal colonial mindset.
If not French then China as we seen a new trend around the world!
Keep em away!
They need to call Russia.
Wait till you see what happens when they leave.
This isn’t true, French rule is popular given 3 referendums for independence was rejected. I say the end of this is more likely self-government under French supervision in which the island governs itself.
@@jakebhenry2228you colonists always fail to mention that the final election was boycotted in any other situation the results would be denounced but since it benefits you frogs you ignore that detail and repeat this 1/2 truth!
Free Caledonia! No more aphartid in 21 century.
Allowing people who've been living in a place for 10 years to vote. Omg such apartheid!
If you think taxation without representation is ok. Prepare to lose and be enslaved by the enlightenment.
I wonder can Russia and others help now with weapons and experts to freedom fighters like France do in Ukraine or not if they will ask them for help?what will be the difference?
Azerbaijan is an ally of the Kanak but has sent nothing.
New Caledonia had 3 referendums for independence from 🇫🇷 and all 3 times voted to stay French. Make up your minds.
And who made the law on referendums and, most importantly, who counts the votes . . .
Hi IronMan-if4ke, who makes up more of The population Kanak or caldoches? And New caledonia is for Kanak or caldoches???😊if you know The answer then stop Saying The Referendum
Just vote and get a majority of residents to vote for independence. France won’t get its feelings hurt, and more likely be glad no longer have to pay a fortune for that island, its infrastructure and services. But I have a sneaky suspicion that locals, like those in Corsica, want that safety net financial guarantee from 🇫🇷.
@@IronMan-if4keHahaha, french just loots others, we know 500 years of history and looting since then. So leave them alone
Grow up, majority vote is the French settles, and token immigrants who despise the Kanak people. The Kanak voted for independence constantly.
Hey France.. do you remember when you voted for Kosovo independence?
And who will pay for New Caledonia when they become independent. Can they really support themselves? Unlikely
The french will pay after all the stealing of the resources in colonialism and racist europeon governing .
They've got natural resources especially nickel. If nationalised or a Norwegian style sovereign fund is formed with the funds from the nickel mined and managed properly it will be be the 3rd wealthiest nation behind Australia and New Zealand in the south Pacific in it's own right.
Leave them alone to decide wat they want ...u can't move there n in 10 years start voting...leave them alone
who cares . There is absolutely nothing more valuable than freedom. In Vietnam we had very tough times after wars with France US China ..ect.. but now we are doing just fine.
They were living well before the French discovered they weren’t armed.
Free Noumea and West Papuan from colonialism ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾
No. Signs of independence. Full support to native Kanak people.
that professor didn't answer a single question he just spat out history lessons
almost like current events tend to be rooted in history or something
He said what he was asked. Then they turned to another person.
The French claim it is an integral region of France.
But when it came to the EU, France claimed New Caledonia was NOT an integral region of France. NC does not use the Euro, it uses the Pacific Franc. New Caledonia does NOT vote for MEPs, and is NOT represented in the European Parliament. The Schengen open border agreement does NOT apply to New Caledonia. Kanaks have no rights to work in the EU.
Give the Kanaks independence and not the European settlers. They are not children anymore but men. They speaks France as French man. I want the Frenchman to give them independence.
Not meaning to belittle a very serious issue, but how did this place get called New Caledonia (Scotland)..?
was wondering the same
James Cook named it
Apparently it's coastal cliffs resemble those in Scotland.
There was a time when Europeans thought that everywhere should be Europe, and had little to no regard for other people's lived experience in places outside of Europe.
@@V-vk7vonot just Europeans, stop trying to demonise people just for being born in Europe
French Neo colonialism at its finest. I am actually happy that Russia has upset the imperialist status quo in "French West Africa"
No amount of Euros will douse the indigenous Kanak peoples will for independence
You can't be the brightest if you think Russia has liberated the people... They just replaced their influence their own and now watch the decline of living standards for the ordinary citizens. Only leaders will benefit. Africa 2.0 with Russia the neo-colonialist.
If white French can "immigrate" into New Caledonia, Kanak citizens can move over to France (schooling, job opportunities)? Seems pretty balanced, eh.
Both Alaska and Hawaii were "territories" of the USA gained full status as States, so there's that.
@@scottscouter1065Hawaii still has a native population that does not want to be part of the US. Hawaii itself only became a territory of the US after the overthrow of the monarchy at the behest of American sugar interests and the sentiments against US rule were born from this.
@@jesusaguilar4585 Hawaii has a very diverse population. Some members of indigenous Hawaiian population have advocated for independence but they have limited support within even within their own communities. The advantages of being US citizens are too good to give up.
They already do and their studies are paid by France.
@@scottscouter1065 I'm sure there are some advantages for sor some native peoples in Hawaii as there are for some in the mainland but when it counts for them in times of crisis such as the recent mass fires you will see that the money and funding will not go to them but rather to areas for redevelopment of private interests groups.
Let me guess it's Putin Fault?
Israel's. America's.
They will blame it on Trump somehow.
Actually azerbaijan, frenchs are nuts
nah, it's America's fault, obviouly. American spies and stuff
Then give the indigenous people the same rights and the same benefits as the people on mainland have
That territory doesn’t belong to france. That territory with return sooner or later to its true owner: the *people of Kanaky* . France is in europe.
Just let them be independent, France is too far and the world is to futuristic for colonial rule to occur
Azeris didn't allow artsakh to be independent,
Armenians are indigenous there
New Caledonia is sovereign France.
They rejected independence 3 times.
Azeris are behind tension
Because France supported Armenia.
Your the ones facing a riot right now, be a man, don't deflect, deal with the issues at hand.
@@blazer9547 😆Rejected by French settlers not by autochthonous people
@@blazer9547 France passed laws that purposely hard for indigenous people to vote.
I love how you're so deluded you can see clearly it's not a minority otherwise 1000+ soldiers would not be needed.
i've been to Noumea several times when i was working in fisheries, its the headquarters for SPC (secretariat of the pacific commission). its a lovely place but i rarely saw any indigenous people when i was there.....
In many places like this the locals are relegated to the margins of the island. I mean settlements of locals
@@pipfox7834 ...yeah, I've been to other places where even tho the indigenous were pushed to the margins, they still can be seen working in the shops, restaurants ...but I notice in Noumea even the the staff there were few kanaks. I stayed at Casa Del Sol and would walk to SPC even the shops there and restaurants were staffed by asians and french and other pacific Islanders. But then again I only saw a small part of Noumea
@zoluhwa3508 yes, only a really good knowledge of an entire locality with all neighbourhoods included will show what the trend is. Often the two communities are almost separate
Its 2024 my goodness...why are the French still keeping territories?
This is a mess.
44% of the population are indigenous Kanaks.
33% are French.
23% are “other”, mainly Indonesians, Vietnamese, Islanders from elsewhere in the Pacific etc.
The “others” and the French vote together on most issues. This means the Kanaks are outvoted every time.
France needs to get out of the Pacific.
So you are saying 44% should determine the outcome come of the another 56%. What is your argument people are not equal? If you believe in that logic then Britain’s may as well rule the world again. 😂
@@MrWhitmen1981
1. New Caledonia was included in the UN decolonisation list in 1946. This was reconfirmed by the UN Decolonisation Committee on 28 October 1987.
The French response on both occasions was to claim it was an integral region of France.
2. The French Socialist Government of Mitterand promised and prepared a bill in April 1985 to move New Caledonia towards independence by 1986 through a referendum. This did not take place.
3. At the 1988 Paris talks the Matignon Accord was reached, providing the broad framework of a ten year transition plan leading to the decolonisation of New Caledonia. This did not take place and let to riots.
5. Between 1990 and 2013, the population of New Caledonia grew from 169,000 to 256,000. During that 23 year period the New Caledonia birthrate dropped from 17.53 per thousand to just 8.72 per thousand, almost exactly half. This means means that most of the 87,000 population increase were external arrivals, mostly from France.
France needs to import more Europeans to control the island, including troops and settlers.
@@rosshilton Demographics is destiny. The French know that. The Kanaks know that. It is exactly for this reason that the protests have turned violent very quickly and that in return, France will do everything it can to crush the rioters. I simply hope from the bottom of my soul that the situation in New Caledonia will not evolve into a new Algeria.
and half of them want to stay with France
So many self entitled people supporting colonialism🤢
What next ? Chinese colony .
So much unrest. Hopefully the people can come to a solution.
@@socarsocar601 perhaps...it's a dam mess.
The people are fine. It's their colonial masters that are not happy.
Freedom for New Caledonia!
West should respect freedom of speech, human rights and end of colonialism.
if they become independent they will just be another Haiti
Yeah let's not immediatly crucify france for not giving independence to a colony that voted 3 times to stay a colony. I'm all for independence to all nations but a lot of times these colonial areas actually receive more money from the government than they produce. I'm going to need more information to make up my mind. Maybe it really is just a bunch of hooligans.
I’m all down for letting the natives decided their own fate and not have non-natives vote, but let’s keep up this energy in Europe
"Storm Troopers are leaving Coruscant on a mission to bring the situation on Alderaan under control"
New Caledonia belong to Pacific people not Europeans France
Free Caledonia 😢😢😢
Give it to Australia 🇦🇺
Before the Chinese do a deal! 🎉
To still be colonized by another country in 2024 is crazy
Why is EU quite about it...when they lecture others about democracy...shame on EU and france
The EU is in a weird position right now.
Leet us see if there will be protest in universities for this one
Happening in France
Don't need... We, their Pacific Island brothers got their backs
@@j.r.freeman9420 The Melanesians or the Polynesians that used to occupy the islands prior?
Are you referring to protests in US universities? If so you're a brainless wonder.
Those protests are because the US government funds 60% of the Israeli military and the IDF killed over 35,000 innocent people, and so the students AS US CITIZENS are protesting their government.
The US government doesn't fund and prop up the French government.
Are you referring to protests in US universities? If so you're a brainless wonder.
Those protests are because the US government funds 60% of the Israeli military and the IDF killed over 35,000 innocent people, and so the students AS US CITIZENS are protesting their government.
The US government doesn't fund and prop up the French government.
There were 3 times referendum to get independent if they wanted - all 3 times they voted to stay part of France. Now, some are upset that French people who lived their for 10 years could vote. Lots of strange comments here. Some people need to be educated.
Go ask haiti algeria lebanon how independence worked out for them. Dysfunction and despair be grateful for having the french to lead you
Azerbaijan is behind that ; Poutine is behind Azerbaijan... Wagner is looking to the Nickel... China is looking to new ports...
In this context, France hasn't changed that much since the 1800s. They have terrible relationships with all their former colonies. It's very easy to see why, from Central African Republic to South America they are constantly trying to take from and advantage of the people. Their policies are still as racist as when they were in control of North Africa. Makes me wonder why their culture is so exalted around the world
Please New Caledonia Join BRICS, get out of Poverty and Western Slavery!
😂😂😂 pure ignorance
lol effectivement... ils finiront comme Haïti ou Madagascar soit un des pays les plus pauvres de la planète. C'est comme si tu disais aux Haïtiens de rejoindre les Brics...Mayotte a beaucoup moins de ressources naturelles que Haïti ou Madagascar alors je te dis pas la catastrophe...les chinois s'en moqueront complètement des origines kanak des habitants. @@chavex2209
Les brics n'acceptent pas les petits pays pauvres et l'impérialisme religieux ou communiste sont encore plus asservissants que l'impérialisme occidental...ils ne pourront même plus être libres de s'exprimer. La situation géographique intéresse les chinois pour y disposer des sous marins nucléaires en face de l'Australie. J'espère qu'ils seront indépendants pour que les gens s'aperçoivent de la triste réalité géo politique.
Concerning membership of the BRICS, the basis of which is initially based on two strictly economic criteria, but not forgetting the political issues, a unanimous vote of the five countries is required, as in the Security Council, or membership in NATO. , a single country with a veto that can block any membership.
Azerbaijan and Russia fuel this.
No....People are just sick of France
Maybe because someone felt unhappy as Macron welcomed Xi?
@@jerry85g7 no they rejected independence 3 times
Russia has nothing to do with this one. It's Azerbaijan
Why would Azerbaijan care?
Best magpies in the world live on New Caledonia. Magpies free from French colonists!
And super intelligent!
The French should really build New Caledonia with the billions and billons of dollars that its been robbing from there for such a long time. And let New Caledonia be a totally independent country.
A gde je Nova Kaledonija? U Francuskoj? Gde?
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Free New Caledonia 🇳🇨.
Colonial policies have no place in the 21st century
Free from france
French Guyana soon do the same people want their freedom and independent now
Freedom for people of Caledonia.
New Caledonia. Calidonia (without new) is a part of Scotland.
It is unbelievable that there are still the colonized places in the world. Strong countries still exploit small countries. So sad. Just let all places independent.
Nickel is commonly used in Electric Car Batteries, so is Cobalt which is almost exclusively mined in the Republic of Congo in Africa .... Which is also facing a Civil War.
Give them independence "Frenchman '. Why craved for their minerals?
free New Caledonia🙏🇳🇨♥️
It's time, rise up stand up, stand up for your rights
Full Support for independent new caledonia from Serbia!
Its one of those places where locals were not completely exterminated
France should let New Caledonia free.
Amazing that you invited all the people outside instead of someone from there
Free Caledonia, free kashmir, free north east India free from oppression and repression colonial nations.
So you telling me you were not able to find a single Kanak person to talk to you about their situation or you just chose not to do it and instead invited two European academics for the narrative?
Thats how colonization and the west is working
Comment la France peut elle prendre une telle décision sans l'autorisation et l'approbation des peuples indigènes,,, C' est un OUTRAGE,,,,
Kanaks represent 39% of the population of New Caledonia and their population increases compared to other communities. The Kanak people enjoy wide autonomy and run many territorial institutions. What to say in comparison to the situation in Australia or New Zealand, where the native populations were exterminated (3% of the Australian population) (15% of the New Zealand population) and where their autonomy is marginal. They could also talk about the fate of the native populations of North or South America and their degree of autonomy. Anti-French criticism is based on prejudice...look in your own country at the fate of minorities before criticizing others.
That is no excuse to continue the subjugation and exploitation of the Kanak people, which is also in violation of the UN Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and People. Kanaks voted 100 % for independence, the fact that the French colonizers want to continue the exploitation is completely irrelevant to the rights of the Kanak people according to international law and UN Charter. As Nelson Mandela said “only through hardship, sacrifice and militant action can freedom be won” and the Kanak people deserve freedom.
native wants independence which the frenchy don't want to give up.