A white working class lad from a poor council estate has absolutely no chance in modern Britain. He has all the disadvantages of being poor, whilst having to overcome all the prejudices held by our ruling class.
'A white working class lad from a poor council estate' never had much chance in Britain, modern or not. Indeed, they actually have a much better chance now. Pre 1990s the working class system in the UK was ruthless, most professions were policed by the upper middle classes. Absolute poverty levels were much higher. These days a working class lad has more social / legal rights, higher disposable incomes, less chance of living in absolute poverty, better health, longer life expectancy, more access to higher education and to professions previously preserved for the upper middle classes. They will travel more, experience more and have a better life than than any working class generation before them
I grew up on a council estate near Sheffield. Two mates from the same estate and I passed the eleven plus and attended the local grammar school. All three of us have had good careers. I'm convinced that if kids work hard at school and get good grades in their exams, they too can be successful.
@@importantjohn Professions are still policed by the upper middle classes, but now you need a degree to join the police force, get anywhere in the army, and for a large number of entry level jobs that would not have required them in the 20th century. You say that they have more legal rights, but these lads are now actively discriminated against in the public sector (this isn't hypothetical it is the natural consequence of diversity quotas). Private rents are also far more punishing than they were even 10 years ago and wages have gone nowhere in 16 years, so assuming that this working class lad from a poor area has to move to get a decent job then his disposable income will be extremely low. I don't disagree that some things are much better now than in 1950 with regards to technology and health care, but modern working class lads are not in competition with peers from the 1950s.
Britain used to be a home. It's now a hotel where people live next to each other but not amongst each other. There has been a extended and concerted attack on our history, our culture, our identity led by institutions and then puzzlement as to why young people feel no affiliation to this country. The contract between government and the people to protect our borders has been violated on a criminal scale and ironically, the reasons to live here, have been undermined by the very people who came. Enoch Powell was right to sound the alarm, but it is too late now. The damage is irreversible.
It's not irreversible, but you need to have a nation building politician who is happy to be vilified by the left - most of whom are the young people you talk about!
I am glad to see someone understands that the damage is irreversible. I am thoroughly sick of those fools who keep believing that the next election will solve the problem.
Yep, this is the argument Badenoch is putting forward for being leader of the Tories. Apparently, she is allowed to say things that an indigenous Brit isnt 'allowed' to say. Tell me again how there is no two tier system in the UK?
It's partly true: there are worse repercussions for white Brits who talk about this. But, let's be honest, white Brits have lost their balls. We all just need to be a little braver - not hateful or violent: braver.
No mention that for decades the British public have consistently voted for less immigration. So the demographic change Trevor points to was not wanted, as generally it’s felt that Britain was OK before. Data shows we are not getting the best and the scale across Europe is killing the golden goose.
I just watched video about the psychological and behaviour environment in many UK schools (not every school ofcourse, there are strict one's and this seems to be only real option + expensive private schools) . Do you really think you can make anything good out of pupils who forced to spend time in schools together with kids who ruin the education process and actually rather require to be swiftly removed to special needs schools.
@@bibastarmedia9650 @markchandler5860, how can talented migrants save England from economic collapse? The UK use to have a similar per capita income as the USA. Next year the UK is likely to have 60% US per capita income, or a lower per capita income than South Korea, African Americans and the USA's poorest state, Mississippi. At her current trajectory the UK's per capita GDP in my view will fall to less than half US levels; and to a lower per capita income than Malaysia, Greece, Guyana, Panama, Bahamas, Portugal, Aruba, Trinidad & Tobago. The UK suffers from massive brain drain as the graduates of the UK's Russell Group universities (24 elite UK universities) and millionaire class rapidly leave the UK. The UK is likely to have about 600 K emigrants leave the UK next year. Over the past decade the number of nominal US dollar millionaires declined by 8% as the number of nominal US dollar millionaires inside the USA increased by 63% over the past decade. Structurally and organically this UK economic deterioration is worse than it appears from the outside. It is masked by talented migrants who are keeping the UK afloat. Currently, 67 out of the UK's 146 billionaires are migrants (immigrants.) Soon it is probable that the large majority of british billionaires, millionaires, elites and top academic performers will be migrants, children of migrants, grandchildren of migrants or ethnics. Anglo saxon ethnic english are in danger of becoming an indigent underclass in their own country subsidized by migrants and ethnics similar to how the Bumiputera are subsidized in Malaysia.
And he's been at the forefront of destroying any arguments against immigration, not that he ever made any sense! They just can't leave our country alone for some reason!
I'm sick of hearing the term "White" / "White majority". Never in the history of these islands, have its native inhabitants used their skin colour as the basis for their identities; this idea is as American and imported as "blue jeans and rock n roll". The term "White" only means anything when used outside of its context (Europe); we are inside our context. The idea that someone whose grandparents were from Bangladesh is "British Bengali", and yet I; whose ancestors have lived in these islands for thousands of years, am merely "White", is deeply disrespectful. Not only is it an absurdity, but fortunately for us, and unfortunately for you; it's an unsustainable absurdity.
Good point that you made. De-colonization movements provided the best reminder of the true historical demographic nature of the UK. A sizable part of these movements were based on colonized non-whites v colonial white overlords.
@@tkm238-d4r exactly yes, and the coloniser thing makes no sense in Britain either, I'm not a coloniser, because I was born in Britain 🤷♂️ so my direct ancestors didn't leave 😂 "Ah but the British government did colonialism overseas" - a similar charge is levelled against modern Germans due to the Nazis, but "the sins of the father" is an immoral idea; ironically it was one of the charges levelled by the Nazis, against the Jews they murdered 🤷♂️
The idea that we are getting 'the best of the best' through immigration is ludicrous. The fact that someone who is considered to be serious enough to be invited onto Spectator TV is able to say such things unchallenged by the interviewer is even more surprising. The idea that the British people simply have to accept mass migration, along with the social mores of the migrants is untrue. I hope the British people do not roll over and accept the elite consensus.
watch a bit longer because he explains that there is an obvious difference between the 3-4k net migration of when his parents arrived versus the half a million net that arrive now. Mainly that historically they all spoke English and arrived from the same place (typically British colonies).
You are forgetting about the issue of white guilt connected to slavery, let's not deceive ourselves here, our involvement in slavery, has put us at a larger disadvantage than ever.
@@Walley28 Only because we don’t teach each other and our children that we were the first major power in the history of humanity to end slavery at great cost to us economically (we paid slave owners to free slaves all over the world spending half of our wealth at the time) and the cost in money and lives by using our navy to stop the trade world wide. We also give billions to Africa nations every year. What more do people want. We’ve dont the most out of and group of human being since humans have been on earth.
Most ethnic minorities have a 'homeland to go back to or visit'. Where will us English go when our country is gone? This is why people are upset, we have been uprooted and marginalised. I read the report and it was very well written and researched. However, the picture for the 'white British' was dismal especially on health and mortality rates. In fact, some ethnic minorities live a full 10 years longer than the white British.
The vast majority of ‘white Britons’ are descended from the Yamnaya culture who arrived at the beginning of the Bronze Age. So your ancestral homeland is somewhere in Ukraine or SW Russia.
@@bnielsen56 So are you saying we deserve it because of what our governments done 100's of years ago? We, the working class of this country should pay the price for their mistakes?
What an unlovely turn of phrase he has for the native born English (08:46) - 'for those we now consider the majority'. The way he frames this is as if the UK is just made of transient ethnic groups in their own ghettoised cultures, butting up against each other. It all sounds rather fragmented, cold, and distant to me. But then again, the England of my parents and grand-parents generation has long since vanished.
And that we've always hitherto considered ourselves to the "lucky ones" and when we become a minority we will then consider ourselves to be the "unlucky" ones.
I believe that’s exactly why he used that phrase - precisely because there are many different cultures within the “white majority”. It’s not really a homogenous majority bloc.
The problem is we didn't insist on English language and integration. If they chose to move here but many hold to cultural practices that are inappropriate.
The issue of integration is a false flag to persecute minorities. Look at what happened in nazi Germany. The jews were very well integrated into German society, they lived and dressed like them and were economically successful. And look what happened to them. It's part of the sinister divide and conquer strategy.
Even if it was possible, why would integration be desirable? Britain belongs to ethnic groups (English, Scottish, Welsh, etc.) that you can't just assimilate into. Just like you can't just become Chinese, whether born there or not, you can't just become British.
I’m British and live in Cape Town. People are well ahead of the curve down here. They understand that ‘diversity’ is not some sort of moral ideal but is rather a predicament that has to be fastidiously managed. The picture that is being painted here (in very genteel language) is an incoming sectarian nightmare.
lol South Arifca?! Yes that's a great model for acceptance and diversity. Do you want to bring back apartheid? Or are you arguing that all white people should leave South Africa?
This Trevor talks some BS, those BAME conservatives have 2 things in common, 1: they hide anything that could possibly be conceived as non British/white, 2: they're all married to white people which means they're in that club, i.e, the people that accept them would not accept me, a regular black man.
We never wanted mass immigration and no one would listen. I simply don't understand what the architects of this had in mind or thought would happen. Heseltine rallied Tory opposition to Powell in 1968, yet acknowledged a Powell led Tory party would have won a historic majority in the 1970 election. Supposed moderate Roy Hattersley acknowledged that public opinion was overwhelmingly in favour of a complete ban on immigration in 1964, yet he believed it was right to ignore it. We are now living with the consequences that everyone but the decision makers knew was inevitable. We have lost our identity. "Whiteness" is a pejorative term on the left, we clearly have a two tier police, legislature and judiciary and we are within sight of becoming a minority in our own homeland. Two generations of men died for nothing between 1914 - 1945. The powers that be are now making noises about reintroducing conscription to face the Russian and Chinese "threat". Who are they kidding? What are we going to fight for? A lot of us would see Russian paratroopers as liberators
@@kevinbill9574 I bet you regret Britain even had a mass global robbery system until the end of WW2.....(sorry I meant to say "Empire").... in the first place. Britain was doomed from the moment it started to build an Empire, gorge itself on wealth from other countries and build infrastructure with it. Trouble is, you're wealthy elites never learned to live without having an Empire and chasing a strong Pound Sterling above everything else became their only goal. Now look at you......engineering industries, finished.....public services such as rail and water, in the gutter.....housing, an overpriced mess. You're country's in the toilet and finished. It's time you pulled down the lid and pull the flushing handle. It'll make you feel better in the long term, I promise.
Just as the 'nonwhite' communities of this country are not homogenous, nor are the 'white' communities. White diversity is also rich, and precious to many of us.
1000%. There is a huge about of nonbinary multiplicity, pluralism and diversity within English culture. Which is a major reason English culture is so endearing to people around the world.
@@katemelton1589 That's one of the few things we'd agree on, he is undoubtedly in a position of power, but that's only because his career is built on repeating the correct London dinner party shibboleths
@@LloydLaughalot I have gone through the latest OBR reports. It is probably that soon the vast majority of UK elites, upper middle class, millionaires and billionaires will be migrants, children of migrants, grandchildren of migrants, ethnics. Already 67 out of the UK's 146 billionaires are migrants. What are your thoughts about this?
Anyone who wasn’t alive to the conclusions now presented in Rakib’s report, as long ago as the 1980s, had their eyes wide shut. The blind arrogance of the establishment has been quite staggering.
The establishment is quite happy, thank you very much, since tax revenue is the only thing of interest - you are irrelevant, like the rest of the public as far as they are concerned.
With over four million here from the religion of peace, within two generations they’ll be over a third of the population. Can anyone see remigration??? We’ve already lost. We just can’t see it yet. What a shame, we were great once.
Unfortunately, have to sort of agree with you. Contrary to the globalist talk, the mass migration did not occur as a result of market forces only. As late as the late 1980s, the HK BNO passport holders requested for a right of abode to UK after 1997. After considering there could be an estimated 3m holders, Mrs Thatcher said no. This policy showed that immigration could be controlled. How many HKers came over from 1945 to 1997? From my observation, not that many. As for certain types of people coming in, perhaps not a coincidence that they came from backgrounds that was linked to maintaining post-1945 Anglo-White geopolitical dominance for the globalist elites. Not a coincidence the establishment saw Pakistan in more favorable terms than India, despite Pakistan's known track record. As of 2024, the Anglo-Canadian establishment seemed very interested in the Khalistan issue, something which India objected. After 9/11, we were repeatedly told not all persons of certain backgrounds were terrorists. But wait, wasn't that a statement of the obvious? Of course not everyone of the same backgrounds thought in the same way. Why the need to highlight this when during the Cold War, we were not told that not all Russians were communists?🙄
@@declanstewart5690 - I really hope I’m wrong. How do you see any conceivable way that this is going to change? Sweden has massively upped their re migration payment, but at only one year’s social benefit, why would they leave? Their birth rate is huge, over four per family. Ours is still declining! These people won’t leave unless they’re forced to and that’s not going to happen. Reform can barely mention stopping the boats and get sidelined, ‘re migration’? You’d get arrested! Our establishment is too filled with lefties (we swing from Tory to Labour electorally and they’re both as bad) so I can think of no way this can end well. I hope I’m wrong.
When a Jew, a muslim and a gay hair dresser can share the same barber shop on a typical high-street, i will consider them integrated and showing their British values.
You've clearly never been to London or any major UK city. You will find what you describe in most offices, shops, restaurants etc Have you ever ventured out of your local village?
What's with hairdressers? Not exactly socially unacceptable, but try wearing a T-shirt in London saying religion is bullshit - a key British value where you could have open opinions - and see how far you get.
@@bnielsen56 Religion is bullshit is a British value? Do you know about the history of the common law? And do you not remember the famous atheist adverts all over buses in the late 2000s. Where do you even get your information from ?
This point a 1000% OP. It’s not culture. Go to China or India and you will find millions of poor people who only finish middle school. These are not the kind of people who immigrate to the UK. I am so tired of listening to these kinds of analysts talking about how we need to learn from Indian or Chinese education culture without nary a recognition that’s it’s the most upwardly mobile from those societies that move abroad. Why the heck are you surprised that their kids do better than the natives and then turn around and blame the natives? For crying out loud, do a class analysis and realize the values of working class people and the values/culture that the mass media tells working class people to pursue. I don’t understand how these telecasters can be so educated but yet sooooo dumb !!
This point a 1000% OP. It’s not culture. Go to China or India and you will find millions of poor people who only finish middle school. These are not the kind of people who immigrate to the UK. I am so tired of listening to these kinds of analysts talking about how we need to learn from Indian or Chinese education culture without nary a recognition that’s it’s the most upwardly mobile from those societies that move abroad. Why the heck are you surprised that their kids do better than the natives and then turn around and blame the natives? For crying out loud, do a class analysis and realize the values of working class people and the values/culture that the mass media tells working class people to pursue. I don’t understand how these telecasters can be so educated but yet sooooo dumb !!
@@junsu21 This comment will get deleted, but the fact is that many from those cultures are cheating on exams, multiple choice style tests since CC was rolled out. Initially, it was dissemination of leaked exam papers within their community. Access to illegal copies of very expensive study materials, such as Kaplan or Schweiser. Currently, exams invigilators just dictate the answers, and it was filmed undercover again and again.
@@MsChitterchat No, it's not. See Gregory Clark's research: social class is 70% heritable, so 30% environmental, which includes culture plus other things, including measurement error.
British people have consistently voted against more immigration, and persistently voted for a drastic reduction in current levels of immigration. Successive governments for over half a century have refused to implement the will and wants of the voting population, and it appears as though it's all beginning to come to a head. I am historically a Labour voter - mostly due to the clear economic performance difference between Labour and Conservatives, and the fact that being heavily involved in business it is important that the country has as strong an economy as is possible; and that means voting Labour, whether or not I disagree with whatever else that may entail with regards to more liberal - some may say compassionate, views, when it comes to social welfare, trade unions, and so on... but if anybody believes that Labour will be in power for a second term if they do not get a firm grip on enforcing integration, and achieves a notable reduction in immigration levels over the next five years, then you simply do not understand the growing anger amongst the British population. I do not say this lightly, because I believe that it would have pretty drastic consequences for the British economy, but Reform are more than a fringe party, and Reform coming to power is not just a pipe dream.
Another point was that there were indications that persons of immigration background voted for less immigration partly because they saw the later arrivals were not of their own kind. Take for example, the Windrush children that did become UK citizens. How many voted for more Pakistanis? How many Pakistanis like to live in a neighbourhood with lots of blacks? The reality is that the London Labour Globalist Republic live in a world of its own. Of course higher end Pakistani and Black intellectuals are able to interact together. Outside of the London Republic, Pakistanis and Blacks do not necessarily like each other.
As a UK immigrant of Balkan decent I have often been criticised by 'native' white Britons for advocating for cultural integration. My family have integrated rather well. To note a few examples: we put gravy on our chips, we drink pints, we sing the national anthem and speak English when in public. All in all we try our best to integrate. I have never been able to understand why many black Londoners speak like Jamaicans and why many suburban white youth copy this way of speaking. It boggles the mind that in many areas of Manchester like Longsight or Rusholme there are streets with only Muslims living there, going to local mosques and shopping in shops that import goods from their various lands of birth. How then are these people supposed to integrate if A) they do not want to and B) are encouraged not to? Moreover some immigrants I've met fall in a poor habit of criticising anything about the UK social, political or cultural. I always tend to ask them, if the UK is so bad, and back where they were born is so good, how come they still choose to stay here? Always the answer either is an uncomfortable silence or criticism that the question is unfair. It is time to have a mature debate about immigration, cultural integration, social acceptance and community. Until that happens we will have uneducated, frustrated, white ,working class youths rioting, with their ethnic counterparts; divided ethnic areas in the cities; and an increasingly violent political polarisation where one side pretends we cannot have integration and the other that immigration presents no social issues.
Its called colonialism. Neocolonialism if you'd like to linguistically distinguish yourself from brainrotted communists, while simultaneously deconstructing their attack vector. I appreciate you and your efforts, mate, however the time for integration has passed as a consequence of the sheer numbers and open dehumanisation of native Brits, who've been left no choice but to put up walls or lose everything
@@perryvalton3296 Not at all, if a European married into another cultural group it would be an expectation that they don't deconstruct their host culture and call for the mass movement of Europeans in pursuit of an ethnocidal politic, simply to have more people who look like them walking around.
3:30 Multiculturalism is parallel societies, it is intentional, it isn't assimilation and integration,. Multiculturalism is Anjem Choudary not Suella Braverman. We were never asked.
People were not asked where they were born, who their parents were, if they wanted colonialism or slavery. However, it seems only certain people need to be asked.
No parallel societies is Parallel Monoculturalism NOT Multiculturalism. Multiculturalism requires mutual respect between cultures, not least the host culture. It requires Integration and acceptance. What we have, more and more, is Parallel Monoculturalism. Society is De-Integrating or more correctly disintegrating as a result. Trevor has actually flip flopped multiple times on the subject. He used to talk about the dangers of silo-isation, which is what we now have.
It might be good for the economy, I don't know, but I guess I just miss my home... In the same other people are allowed to take pride in their people and culture, I used to. But I don't know who the British people anymore? A few decades ago we were a unique and largely unchanged population for 4,500 years, but I'm told today anyone with a British passport is British so it's hard to take pride in that. And what is British culture? I find when I suggest that Britain should remain culturally British I'm attacked, because depending on who you ask Britain's culture has to either be all cultures, or that there is no British culture. Whether I should or shouldn't feel it, I am homesick.
Our grief is their meat and wine. When they look around everything they see was built and invented by Europeans, tearing it down makes them feel powerful.
‘Unique and unchanged’ - what utter bollix! You forget the Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Vikings, Normans, Flemings, Huguenots, Jews, Irish…. And many many more. Remember that even Farage is the descendant of French immigrants.
@@charlesbruggmann7909 Well it's not... Modern indigenous Brits share 90% of their DNS with the beaker people who inhabited Britain 4,500 years ago. And until the late 20th century 99% of the UK was indigenous. To your point we had cultural change from various invasions, but none of those invasions significantly changed population genetics. And that wasn't the point I was making. Pretty vile you would be trying to deny the existence of an indigenous people anyway, but in your defence I understand this is the norm. I guess you think there's no such thing as Indians either given Brits went there hundreds of years ago and some have British ancestry? Or do you just apply this logic to indigenous European populations?
@@kryp879 Every one of these groups - and others had an influence (changed) on the culture. "90% of their DNS with the beaker people who inhabited Britain 4,500 years ago" - like everybody else in W Europe. The 'beaker culture' might have originated in modern Portugal and dominated Europe as far East as Poland. until the late 20th century 99% of the UK was indigenous - including or excluding Ireland or even Scotland. PS: I am not sure that either of these stats really stands up.
@@charlesbruggmann7909 Given you don't deny the genetics of the population, I think what you're saying is that you don't believe there can be an indigenous population if that population shares similar genetics to other populations? So for example you would deny there was no Aztec or Inca people because they shared the majority of their genetics and shared the same ancestors? On the 99% I meant Britain, not UK so excluding Ireland. Sorry about that.
Speaking as someone from the deprived areas of the UK, I can say that we experienced absolutely NO privilege and have been treated despicably by the eliteist poiticians. Personally, I worked like a dog and built my busines in the UK and abroad against every government attempt to drag me down. After years of watching things degrade I have closed all my business interests and investments in the UK and moved to more business-friendly shores and my family and business are never better.
Yes I totally agree!! I’m a white indigenous British Muslim I am Scottish/Celtic in blood and clan and I’m not an Anglo Saxon/ Viking/Roman/Norman invader like many of those with the loudest mouths are! I am a Muslim because Islam is a superior way of life and worship and culture! I feel so sickened by the drug infested and crime ridden white majority areas that I could never ever live there! Infact I can only live in a Muslim majority city because of the state of those places! To be British is to embrace hedonism, selfishness, illicit sexual behaviour and intoxication, family breakdown and moral rot!!! Terrorism today was funded and created in Afghanistan through the resurrection of an ancient scourge on the Muslim world called the Kharijites! The CIA,MOSSAD,MI5/6 resurrected the ideology of these nut-jobs to murder primarily Muslims but also to attack the west in order to demonise Islam!! The fact that hundreds of thousands of indigenous white Brits have become Muslim scares them add to this those converts from Caribbean heritage and the establishment is getting worried because Christianity is dead and makes absolutely no sense where as Islam does make sense because it reminds one of old days Grandad used to talk about !! Britain has destabilised Iraq, Syria and continues to meddle in the politics of the Muslim world and they have created most of the problems we’re facing! Britain was fine importing Pakistanis for cheap labour but now they have a problem even though the businesses the Indian Subcontinent Muslims have created in Britain bring in billions to the economy!!
Yes I totally agree!! I’m a white indigenous British Muslim I am Scottish/Celtic in blood and clan and I’m not an Anglo Saxon/ Viking/Roman/Norman invader like many of those with the loudest mouths are! I am a Muslim because Islam is a superior way of life and worship and culture! I feel so sickened by the drug infested and crime ridden white majority areas that I could never ever live there! Infact I can only live in a Muslim majority city because of the state of those places! To be British is to embrace hedonism, selfishness, illicit sexual behaviour and intoxication, family breakdown and moral rot!!! Terrorism today was funded and created in Afghanistan through the resurrection of an ancient scourge on the Muslim world called the Kharijites! The CIA,MOSSAD,MI5/6 resurrected the ideology of these nut-jobs to murder primarily Muslims but also to attack the west in order to demonise Islam!! The fact that hundreds of thousands of indigenous white Brits have become Muslim scares them add to this those converts from Caribbean heritage and the establishment is getting worried because Christianity is dead and makes absolutely no sense where as Islam does make sense because it reminds one of old days Grandad used to talk about !! Britain has destabilised Iraq, Syria and continues to meddle in the politics of the Muslim world and they have created most of the problems we’re facing! Britain was fine importing Pakistanis for cheap labour but now they have a problem even though the businesses the Indian Subcontinent Muslims have created in Britain bring in billions to the economy!!
Yes I totally agree!! I’m a white indigenous British Muslim I am Scottish/Celtic in blood and clan and I’m not an Anglo Saxon/ Viking/Roman/Norman invader like many of those with the loudest mouths are! I am a Muslim because Islam is a superior way of life and worship and culture! I feel so sickened by the drug infested and crime ridden white majority areas that I could never ever live there! Infact I can only live in a Muslim majority city because of the state of those places! To be British is to embrace hedonism, selfishness, illicit sexual behaviour and intoxication, family breakdown and moral rot!!! Terrorism today was funded and created in Afghanistan through the resurrection of an ancient scourge on the Muslim world called the Kharijites! The CIA,MOSSAD,MI5/6 resurrected the ideology of these nut-jobs to murder primarily Muslims but also to attack the west in order to demonise Islam!! The fact that hundreds of thousands of indigenous white Brits have become Muslim scares them add to this those converts from Caribbean heritage and the establishment is getting worried because Christianity is dead and makes absolutely no sense where as Islam does make sense because it reminds one of old days Grandad used to talk about !! Britain has destabilised Iraq, Syria and continues to meddle in the politics of the Muslim world and they have created most of the problems we’re facing! Britain was fine importing Pakistanis for cheap labour but now they have a problem even though the businesses the Indian Subcontinent Muslims have created in Britain bring in billions to the economy!!
The other point about not integrating and it not being a problem is pure ignorance and arrogant foolishness. Britain’s culture is over a thousand years old and evolved from natural progression. It has been the most successful of all countries. You’re diluting it at rapid speed and this will be to the peril of future generations.
@Minimmalmythicist 1080's is about a thousand years? There has not been any major migrations between 1080 and very recent times (Huguenots were about 50K over 100 years). More migration has happened in the last 25 years than the 900 before combined.
@Minimmalmythicist Ireland was an integral part of Britain from 1800 until 1921 same as Wales, Scotland or indeed Surrey, internal movement within the UK is a completely different issue.
@Minimmalmythicist Even in 1066 the number of immigrants was tiny - a few tens of thousands (but they did take over). As for the “French immigration” - I assume you refer to the Huguenots - about 50,000. The immigration from France post 1980 is 6 x that.
13:04 We're not just getting the best immigrants, we're getting the worst. And the problem is the benefits derived from the former are vastly outweighed by the latter.
@ftdecastrolondon there was no such thing as a native American before Europeans arrived, there were 100+ tribes, many of which practiced cannibalism, ritual sacrifice and as a matter of routine ethnically cleansed other tribes. There is a huge difference between settling land and bringing technology to sustain millions of people, including millions more native Americans than existed before Europeans arrived, and displacing people from their ancestral cities as an act of veiled, or not so veiled now, resentment due to an inferiority complex. You only believe what you do to salve the wounds of shirked duty, leaving no inheritence behind for children who will remember you as a coward and a traitor
The office for national statistics have recently released a report stating that less than 10% of immigrants have qualifications suitable to support the uk economy and only 5% actually contribute to the economy. By the time an immigrant is 80yrs old they will have cost the uk £500,000, the cost to the taxpayer is going to run into billions…..no wonder the winter fuel payment has been stopped, it’s being spent on scrounging immigrants and not on the people that have worked all their lives to create the wealth. How I hate both Tory and Labour.
8:50 "One group, distinguished by its geography and its colour" - this is basically coded genocidal rhetoric. We are the native peoples (plural) of these islands, it's our culture. Your communities are a byproduct of British state policy, while ours would exist even if there was no British state; because we are the peoples who brought the British state into existence. You are the ones who have distinguished yourselves by your colour, not us.
@sebfox2194 because he's claiming that the native peoples of Britain are merely distinguished by geography and colour; he may as well be describing bloody fir trees. When you frame them this, demographic replacement becomes a lot easier to justify to yourself; which helps if you want to be able to sleep at night.
The UK forced multiculturalism in many countries. In places like the US, Canada or Australia the native population was massacred and a "new civilization" was imposed. What is happening to Britain now is sort of a boomerang effect.
True... Britain has actually done the most damage to the world.... they colonised the world which itself is problematic- there's a huge darkside to that type of imperialism but Britain has the poorest track record on Indigenes of all colonizers and also perfected the "divide and conquer" tactic and architected apartheid as seen in the British colonies of the US/Canada, Southern Africa, Israel-Palestine... so let's switch the mirror 🪞 who has much more ills against their name?
So you are saying the argument for mass migration is for revenge basically. Not a positive argument for it, its just a tool of revenge against the British. Mask off moment confirmed.
Just returned from two weeks in London after having left 16 years ago, and honestly, I’m shocked. As a Londoner, I have friends from across the spectrum of communities in the city. Across the board, my friends from Afro-Caribbean, Indian, Jewish, and other groups talked about how sketchy London has become, specifically pointing to young Muslim men. This concern was raised particularly by my female friends (both Black and White). This group is highly problematic and needs to be addressed and called out. They are being pandered to, and the "establishment" seems afraid to confront the issue for what it is. Islam is not compatible with Western Values. The sooner this is recognized the better.
Would you say London and England have a conservative sunni islamist punjabi pakistan cis male problem? If so, what do you think can be done about this?
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This is so so horrible. I am a white English male and I was never consulted over whether I wanted to live in a 'majority foreign born' country. Why must I have to learn about Nigerian or Indian culture? I have no interest in it. I have no desire to understand it. They are not my people, they are not like me. I don't really want them here or care to know them, yet it is done to me against my will.
You don’t have to learn anything about their culture at all if you don’t want to, but it may be that you end up working with somebody who you actually quite like, and it turns out that they come from a different cultural background, and you become friends. That’s how people discover about other cultures. Nobody is forcing it down your throat.
@@annharries9968 Nobody is forcing it down my throat? I live in an area that was historically 90%+ white British. It's now less than 40%. There's a jerk chicken place on every corner and stabbings are commonplace. How dare you say it's not forced on me. Of course it is.
@@suewood8538 I think curiosity is normal. The more we find out about different cultures, the more commonalities and unity we feel with them. There is a lot that cultures from around the world share. @PHJ1441, if you and ethnic english study other cultures, this will greatly help in making money and improving socio-economic and academic outcomes. The UK use to have a similar per capita income as the USA. Next year the UK is likely to have 60% US per capita income, or a lower per capita income than South Korea, African Americans and the USA's poorest state, Mississippi. At her current trajectory the UK's per capita GDP in my view will fall to less than half US levels; and to a lower per capita income than Malaysia, Greece, Guyana, Panama, Bahamas, Portugal, Aruba, Trinidad & Tobago. The UK suffers from massive brain drain as the graduates of the UK's Russell Group universities (24 elite UK universities) and millionaire class rapidly leave the UK. The UK is likely to have about 600 K emigrants leave the UK next year. Over the past decade the number of nominal US dollar millionaires declined by 8% as the number of nominal US dollar millionaires inside the USA increased by 63% over the past decade. Structurally and organically this UK economic deterioration is worse than it appears from the outside. It is masked by talented migrants who are keeping the UK afloat. Currently, 67 out of the UK's 146 billionaires are migrants (immigrants.) Soon it is probable that the large majority of british billionaires, millionaires, elites and top academic performers will be migrants, children of migrants, grandchildren of migrants or ethnics. Anglo saxon ethnic english are in danger of becoming an indigent underclass in their own country subsidized by migrants and ethnics similar to how the Bumiputera are subsidized in Malaysia. What is the downside in being curious about other cultures, prisms, perspectives, philosophies and thoughts?
Jesus CHRIST pal. When you’ve finished crying read a fucking book. “They are not my people. They are not like me. I don’t really want them here or care to know them, yet it is done to me against my will.” - India & Africa, 1602-1947
@@kevinnicholson7722 I've recently had cancer treatment and it was very good. Last pub I went to had mostly British staff and I know builders who are British although I haven't used one for a while.
Am i missing something here if a foreign firm such as Amazon opens up a branch here and then the government allows more immigration so as to provide the labour force for it as well as pying a third of their wage bill all of their pensions and healthcare despite them contributing zero in tax revenue my question is what exactly is in it for British taxpayers?
You did not mention unfair competition for the local bussinesses, and the fact that Amazon did not even have to pay VAT when they started selling in the UK.
Large volumes of people can not be integrated. Less migration and only highly skilled. The government do not and never had a mandate for changing the UK in the last 30 years.
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White privilege has always been utter nonsense; the UK does not have a caste system, nor do other western democracies. We are not tribal in that sense.
@@gopi0905 so 35 out of 55 didn't. Thanks for making my point. Worth adding, no one is born into a university. With the caste system there is only what you are born into.
@@BuffaloSoldier1965. No other country has such high number. If you fail to diagnose right you will never find a remedy. Keeping calling yourself great doesn’t make you great.
I spent many years raising children not following politics. I suppose I assumed there were people looking out for our society at that level. I suddenly realise I’m not in the country I thought I was and it’s been a huge blow. No less than a living nightmare.
It is so good to hear two British people of immigrant heritage recognising that race is not a significant issue in British society. Class has always been our vice. The people at the bottom of society now are the native British whose ancestors have been at the bottom of the social pile for 1,000 years. Those with disposable income and a privileged educational background much prefer to give charitably to causes that help animals, ethnic minorities here or poor communities overseas. Just look at Winchester college, which turned down a bequest to help white working class boys study there.
@@analogeit Might help if you could learn to spell. And no those two sentences are not contradictory. I'm sure Winchester College would have granted bursaries had they been asked to for so called ethnic minority students.
Humans have an inborn bias towards familiarity and origin. In Somalia people of diffrent tribes hate each other and see each other as non-related. This is within groups with the same ethnicity. Now, do multiracial "society". People will segregate along lines of familiarity.
What you have to say is irrelevant. YOU do not know Trevor. When you live next to Romanians, Serbians, Russians, Ukrainians, Albanians etc who speak NO ENGLISH and see the horrific impact on communities only then would I ever listen to you or enter into any sort of discourse on the matter. YOU KNOW NOTHING as most toffs on this matter and therefore fall in to the category of "mouth breather".
He does. It's bad for us native people because we are being usurped and displaced. It may be better to get out because the real élite have set this country on a trajectory of decline. There are better opportunities elsewhere
Giving poor people free things does not teach poor people how to get out of being poor. It teaches them to keep doing what they are doing as someone else will look after them. Sickening abuse.
Phillips is a highly intelligent and thoughtful man. But he has completely missed the point. Simple demographics will mean eventually whites will be in a minority. This was our country, quite capable of assimilating foreigners of whatever colour or creed as long as they integrated. That It will not continue to be is entirely down to multiculturalism, an approach foisted on us to soften the impact of an immigration policy, started by Blair and his goons, which has resulted in the ghettoising of towns and cities. The white working classes were the backbone of the country. They have been utterly betrayed by these policies. The die is cast - that will be England gone.
Tony Blaire, Alistair Cambell & Gordon Brown. They decided that they wanted to rub the 'right's' nose in diversity and introduced positive discrimination against white people in the UK. Turns out that the 'right' according to them was just normal people who'd lived here all their lives. They sold us down the river and Starmer and Reeves will do the same. Imagine how it would be if if it was vice versa. If Vietnam or Nigeria was suddenly and forcefully flooded with ethnically different people. These same idiots in the ranks of our government would likely be up in arms displaying some more fake virtue.
Not sure what Trevor is going to a university for... I tell you what it is Chinese parents are doing 1. Staying together. 2. Making the kids work after school. 3. Setting strict goals and boundaries for their kids. 4. 喝点热水.
@stonecoldjaneausten926 He knows what they are doing. He wants credible published proof that he can use to convince others rather than just anecdotal observations.
We don't. We get people who don't care to assimilate. He even plugs the idea that natives have to accept the ways of alien cultures. This is insulting at best, but basically hostile alien occupation
Nobody says Tokyo would be better if it were 60% Branch Davidians from Waco or Mormons from Utah.....Nobody says what Lagos really needs is to be majority Georgian and Checchnian
Very interesting conversation. But the words assimilation and integration seemed to be used as if they meant the same thing. My great grandparents were Russian Jewish immigrants with no money and no English. Just a trade (tailoring). They dressed oddly, ate strange food and spoke funny 😊. They stayed inside their tight community and rarely ventured out of it. BUT their children and grandchildren assimilated - ie they spoke fluent English, went to the pub, supported the local football teams, dressed and conducted themselves in a British way. They kept their religion, and didn't expect special treatment in any way. They bent to fit in, because they accepted that they were no longer in the 'old country'. The problem now, apart from the scale of immigration, is that some incomers are deeply set against assimilation. Their values cannot be accommodated, which makes them hostile, or appear hostile, and angers the 'hosts'. What's the solution to this? I wish I knew.
To think we went past peak oil in 2005 to 2018, and now every year we will have less on an island with over 60 million people, that requires importing food. There is a very bleak future for this island in the very near future.
60 million?! How about closer to 100 million people on this tiny island. In 2008 an Independent ( The paper) reported that our population was over 80million. He even acknowledged how uncomfortable he was publishing the story, for fear it would be responded by "the far right". Supermarkets know exactly how many mouths In the UK the are being fed, and the true number is devastating.
The black death was one of the causal factors that ended serfdom due to the rapid increase in the bargaining power of labour. No longer were peasants tied to the land as the land owner next door offered a better deal. A decreasing birthrate, absent mass migration, would have forced employers to offer better terms and education to be seen as a long term investment, instead its used to justify ethnocide and import people who openly cheer it on.
That's what this mass inward migration is all about. Remember the real élite in the UK are William the Conqueror's mates. They only think in the context of "bring in more serfs". The UK needs to become an Emigration nation. About 50 million people need to cash in up sticks and leave Billy's mates to it!
Great interview and discussion. As a first generation child of Nigerian British immigrant. I find your comment about Kemi Badenoch both patronizing and amusing at the same time, Quote" the most important thing to understand about Kemi is that she is Nigerian". I don't think that is the most important thing about her......and I don't mean that in a combative way.
When some immigrants come here they bring there own culture they don’t want to Integrate. The English/ British are expected to except it and make the change. Well no if that’s the way people want to live why didn’t they stay in there own country.
My neighbours are Hungarian 1 side, Portuguese the other. Ten years here apiece, I don't know their names or anything about them other than the nationalities. Yeh, mass immigration. Wow
The scale and speed of change is disconcerting. We need to have public policy that articulates and defines what is expected of someone living in the UK - social values and responsibilities. We are subjects, not citizens. People coming to the UK need to understand our national values, heritage and alliances and where their taxes are going to be spent. Define the laws and social values that must be followed by all those living in the UK. It's very rarely mentioned that immigration by people from poorer communities results in the UK becoming a remittance economy where wealth earned in this country is sent abroad.
What a clown. I've taught Chinese students for decades and many have told me they were violently beaten by their parents for getting anything less than top scores in schools. I'm not talking about being spanked in a controlled manner (still unnacceptable). They were punched in the face, knocked to the ground and then kicked while on the floor by their own parents when they were still in primary school. To say traumatising children is okay because they get good jobs in the future is disgusting and the idea that we should be learning from that aspect of Chinese, or any culture that accepts that behaviour, is abhorrent. Holding kids out over a balcony is okay is it? No pushback on that at all from the presenter? The UK has made amazing progress when it comes to protecting children and it's something we shouldn't take one step backwards on, especially not with a laugh and a smile as seen here. Protecting children is not snobbery, it's fundamental to a civilised society.
Nonsense, your average Chinese or East Asian parent in the UK isn't beating their kids. No more or less than any other ethnic group. Anecdotal tales from your @ss here my friend.
And also WHY do they invest so heavily in academic /.economic success? With minorities, it can be about impressing, or competing with white people, as though you can study and earn your way out of white supremacy.
It’s not just the Chinese, it’s the Koreans as well. I had a Korean friend at primary school. I went to visit him in his house. His mum asked me to wait as he was finishing his maths homework. As she was supervising him, if he got an answer wrong, she hit him on his head and berated him. I was so shocked. I think we were 6 or 7 at the time. I won’t ever forget that memory.
Good question. The fact is not just England but most of the world is currently in a churn. Is it for the good or bad? That’s a million dollar question.
The problem is any discussion of immigration is reduced to race by activists and grifters rather than a debate over cultures including white immigrants from Europe.
Really interesting. We have Ukrainian refugees staying with us, and Trevor is spot on re the lack of integration opportunities. The child has integrated easily via school. She was speaking English with a Yorkshire accent within months and jumps seamlessly between English fairy stories and Ukrainian folklore. The mum has worked in a cafe and is picking up English easily. She's constantly discussing affectionately the cultural differences between here and home. Igor, the dad, is a builder. He works for an Eastern European guy who employs mostly Eastern Europeans. They all speak either Russian, Hungarian or Polish. Our guest hasn't bothered with learning English. His boss replicates the working conditions he has at home, long hours, weekend working etc. He's the least settled in the country.
Cindy laughs nervously when Trevor brings up the genome, knowing perfectly well intelligence is eminently heritable within and between population groups.
Mr Philips talks about the issue of a formerly dominant group losing 'control' and reacting. He doesn't address the issue of what happens when the native population suddenly finds itself as the minority. Especially in areas of what might be termed white ethnic minorites - places like Cornwall, Wales, Scotland and Ireland. As an example, look what happened in Fiji a few years ago. Furthermore, his assertion that migrants are motivated to change the system is one that applies only where there is no interest in preserving local cultures. I am an immigrant in an Asian country; the idea that culture would or should be allowed to change to be more accommodating to immigrants is, frankly, laughable. People would be told to accept it or leave. Only in Europe and the US are such ideas taken seriously. Finally, there is a certain irony about a discussion in which concerns about immigration are discussed, along with white privilege, and how it is positive, which is hosted by two members of immigrant communities.
@@dragonade85 so only white brits should discuss such matters? Isn’t the very problem quite the opposite! Open dialogue will be needed from all involved
@@Ditch_Head I did not say that. My point was that there was no input from the native population. To turn your point around, is it surprising that a panel that comprises solely of representatives of immigrant communities should think immigration and the concomitant change is a good thing? By excluding any input from white British you are automatically excluding an open dialogue.
How do we attract attention, if we can't throw bricks. (Not that I need to.) Some come here and want to drastically change our culture, and our recent governments are helpless to correct it.
I was a Canadian immigrant to France, and the one thing I noticed above all was that in France, you absolutely had to have a modicum of culture in order to be taken seriously. The result is that in order to make good, one needed to RISE to a certain level; And the level of education and culture in France has remained relatively high, even if it is lower than 50 years ago... as it is elsewhere! In North America the idea was (from a sense of equality) to make everything available to even those at the lowest level... so everything (especially education levels) were brought down so that even the lowest of the low could participate. The result is that a French high-school student was WAY ahead of the average North American one. And I suspect that to an extent tthe French are generally ahead of the average Brit too. .When I see teh average Brit, tehy are STAUNCHLY middle or working class, and proud of it. In fact even when someone form a working class background moves up teh ladder, when asked tehy still consider themselves working class. As such there is a tendency to accept one's lot and not aim too high; After all, if one coes across as too posh one might lose one's mats, right? And then along come the Indians/Palistanis with one of the strongest work ethics you can imagine. And they flourish. No job is too low as long as it helps them get ahead as they move up the ladder. Class is not a problem for them; what they become is far more important. I remember the film My Beautiful Launderette from 1958 by Stephen Frears. A Pakistani young man gets help from an uncle in setting up a Launderette, and he hires a working class buddy from years ago to work it with him. One scene mirrors exactly Trevor Phillips ' words when the Pakistani says " We are taking over while you working class whites will still be sitting there on the dole creating problems for everyone. You'll be working for us soon! " And so it is. The film was absolutely prophetic. The class system in Britain is so ingrained that if you are a working class guy (think of the film God's Own Country, a film taking place in a Yorkshire farming community) , nobody seems to dream big there. They accept their station in life, and look down on the brown-skinned immigrants as inferior only because they need SOMEONE to feel superior to. The working class in Britain is going to have a major problem with all this. But if the rest of British society can stop looking backward and see that life for everyone in general is still reasonably good, then the success of the Pakistani/Indian immigrants will become a boon for everyone in the long term. It has been stated on many occasoins that the most successful communities in the world are theChinese and the Jewish. Both have excelled everywhere they go - for centuries. A British rabbi once pointed out that both communities withstood millenia of problems and disasters and are sTILL going strong. He said that their separate attitudes towards disaster was somehow linked, because BOTH groups had two meanings for the word. The first meaning was the same as for everyone... some terrible cataclysm which destroys. But both the Chinese and the Jews had a second meaning in their langauges. To the Chinese "disaster" was also understood to mean: an opportunity! And the Jewish word for disaster also meant: a birthing stool... from whence comes new life... in short, also an opportunity for the future. BOTH culture s excelled by having an especially strong sense of the need for education... and with that they opened up the doors to opportunity. How many of the Working class Brits are brought up with the idea of educating themselves as much as possible, even if only a "lowly" farmer or labourer? I suspect the answer to that explains everything.
These two people are so irritatingly smug. Trevor Phillips seems cheerful at the prospect of Britain's indigenous white population making up only half of the population of the UK by 2040 or so, something that makes me feel very sad. He seems to enjoy the idea of white people becoming the employees of those who currently make up ethnic minorities in the not too distant future. This is where DEI got us Brits - poor Britain! Re British politics being too nice and polite and not combative enough, it is far easier for a black person to be combative about these issues than a white person in our society. Look at Amy Wax, interviewed in this magazine a couple of weeks ago. Trevor, I hope you are supporting her as she is concerned with similar issues to those discussed above, although people are outraged that she has the audacity to speak of them, being white.
9:19 I think he's in for a shock if he looks at the data regarding businesses. Bing is telling me that 89.9 percent of entrepreneurs are white. Further research tells me that British Business Bank seem to be quite concerned with the gap between White Entrepreneurs success compared to that of other ethnicities.
People from India have for generations emigrated to countries all over the world. In every country to which they immigrated, Indians eventually faired better economically than the indigenous population. This inevitably lead to envy and resentment by the locals in their host countries. That resentment in turn generally lead to Indians being expelled by force and intimidation from the countries to which they had immigrated. When those Indians left, the economies of the host countries then invariably experienced a precipitous collapse despite the fact that the Indians left the infrastructure they had built behind and were generally forced to abandon their financial capital as well. It turns out that it was the human capital that Indians brought to these societies which was the source of the unprecedented prosperity these countries experienced so long as the Indians were present. Once they were absent, none of these countries managed to indigenously regenerate that prosperity ex nihilo. If one were going to predict how the Anglo Saxon population of Britain will react when they likewise find themselves occupying a socioeconomically inferior status to Indian immigrants and their descendants, one would expect that the indigenous population will likewise resent them and decline to attribute Indian socioeconomic success to an inherent human capital that is the product of the culture of Indian immigrants. If the Anglo Saxons then respond as other indigenous populations have, they too will belatedly discover that depriving Indians of their property and status will not in fact restore the indigenous Brits to prosperity or opportunity. The politics of envy are invariably counterproductive and, rather than resenting a people for their success, one would be better served by emulating the cultural values that actually accounted for that success. Whether that involves immigrants emulating the more successful values of the host country or the indigenous emulating the values of the more successful immigrants, adopting the behaviors of the successful yields the optimal result. As Deng Xiaoping astutely observed, “It doesn’t matter whether the cat is black or white, the cat that catches the mouse is best.”
Couldn't agree with you more. Would add Chinese, Jews, Igbo Nigerians, Iranians, Yuroba christian Nigerians and others to Indians. The UK use to have a similar per capita income as the USA. Next year the UK is likely to have 60% US per capita income, or a lower per capita income than South Korea, African Americans and the USA's poorest state, Mississippi. At her current trajectory the UK's per capita GDP in my view will fall to less than half US levels; and to a lower per capita income than Malaysia, Greece, Guyana, Panama, Bahamas, Portugal, Aruba, Trinidad & Tobago. The UK suffers from massive brain drain as the graduates of the UK's Russell Group universities (24 elite UK universities) and millionaire class rapidly leave the UK. The UK is likely to have about 600 K emigrants leave the UK next year. Over the past decade the number of nominal US dollar millionaires declined by 8% as the number of nominal US dollar millionaires inside the USA increased by 63% over the past decade. Structurally and organically this UK economic deterioration is worse than it appears from the outside. It is masked by talented migrants who are keeping the UK afloat. Currently, 67 out of the UK's 146 billionaires are migrants (immigrants.) Soon it is probable that the large majority of british billionaires, millionaires, elites and top academic performers will be migrants, children of migrants, grandchildren of migrants or ethnics. Anglo saxon ethnic english are in danger of becoming an indigent underclass in their own country subsidized by migrants and ethnics similar to how the Bumiputera are subsidized in Malaysia.
@docca123 In Britain, the US and France it is... but in other parts of Europe it isn't as these three countries are the reason much of the world is in the predicament it is... they are responsible for 87% of the world's problems and then they complain when the world comes to them after they've wrecked the world whether directly or indirectly... all of Europe is crying because of Britain but being the self-centered nation you are.... you couldn't care less about them but instead it's always about you... how about you people protest your foreign policy and reform it instead of blaming the world for your self-inflicted wounds
An interesting analysis by Philips here and I agree with many of his points. The overarching one though for me is that mass immigration and multicultrualism isn't / wasn't inevitable at all. If policiticans had listened to the British people we would probably still be 99% homogenous. From the 60's onwards there has been a deliberate action to subvert democracy , go against the people's wishes and introduce these things to our country. This to me is akin to war crimes. What bigger crime is there than changing a countries cultural foundations without the people's consent? Even during the hard times of the 1970's, at least you had the country generally on the same wavelength culturally. Look at the state we're in now, this country is now pulling in different directions and doesn't know where it's going or what to celebrate about itself. The last 60 years has been a disaster and is killing this country. The way Philips and this lady are chatting away in such a light hearted way is disgusting. The best thing we can do is to halt all immigration for a generation. Yes of course you can learn from other cultures but that doesn't mean you want to change your country into another one. We are now becoming a total mess. A melting pot is in no way a good thing.
British never integrate wherever they go in the world. The host country is always expected to accommodate the British. Most British people don't even speak a second language
there are so many self contradictory arguments in this persons responses, that i feel his arguments are simply NOT work. He argues for multi-culturalism, yet his statements prove that multi-culturalism has not and will not work.
One cannot expect coherence and logic from one of the most censored subject in the history of universe. He can say whatever without fear of being contradicted.
Stop social benefits for all entering illegally And benefits for multiple wives No free medical care ……things would change over night Having sir in-front of a name doesn’t make you any smarter ….. sorry
There is a lot of growing resentment and backlash in England at the success of market dominant ethnics such as Jews, Chinese, Indians. The UK use to have a similar per capita income as the USA. Next year the UK is likely to have 60% US per capita income, or a lower per capita income than South Korea, African Americans and the USA's poorest state, Mississippi. At her current trajectory the UK's per capita GDP in my view will fall to less than half US levels; and to a lower per capita income than Malaysia, Greece, Guyana, Panama, Bahamas, Portugal, Aruba, Trinidad & Tobago. The UK suffers from massive brain drain as the graduates of the UK's Russell Group universities (24 elite UK universities) and millionaire class rapidly leave the UK. The UK is likely to have about 600 K emigrants leave the UK next year. Over the past decade the number of nominal US dollar millionaires declined by 8% as the number of nominal US dollar millionaires inside the USA increased by 63% over the past decade. Structurally and organically this UK economic deterioration is worse than it appears from the outside. It is masked by talented migrants who are keeping the UK afloat. Currently, 67 out of the UK's 146 billionaires are migrants (immigrants.) Soon it is probable that the large majority of british billionaires, millionaires, elites and top academic performers will be migrants, children of migrants, grandchildren of migrants or ethnics. Anglo saxon ethnic english are in danger of becoming an indigent underclass in their own country subsidized by migrants and ethnics similar to how the Bumiputera are subsidized in Malaysia.
Is this really new to anyone? How out of touch are the politicians if they haven't known this for at least two decades? Also, how naïve were they not to have *_predicted_* it?
32:58 i saw this coming, it would make the blacks look bad. But then Trevor went on to do the Blank Slate fallacy, intellectual abilities are inherited at a rate of 0.7-0.8.
It's great to break it down and 'separate the good from the bad', but the big stonking lie at the heart of all this is that the UK's population is actually closer to 90 million people, not 70.
Misinformation... the only European countries close to 90 million people are Germany 🇩🇪 and Turkey 🇹🇷 both of which are larger than the UK... Russia 🇷🇺 🪆 is the only European country with over 100 million people... I believe it will be 150 million by 2030 so who ever told you that is not only a liar but an idiot
Trevor Phillips was suspended from the Labour Party for his Islamophobic remarks, and he recently attempted to divert attention by pointing out that there are communities in the UK with residents from Brazil and Zimbabwe who don’t interact much with outsiders. This can be seen as an attempt to justify his earlier comments about "nations within nations," using Brazil and Zimbabwe as a shield. Moreover, Phillips promotes the misleading notion that Indian and Chinese immigrants outperform other immigrant groups. Let’s unpack that: India has a population greater than that of the entire continent of Africa, and China’s population surpasses that of multiple continents. Comparing these populous nations to smaller countries like Pakistan and Somalia is fundamentally flawed and oversimplified. He often references his background and the success of his family, but it raises the question: how successful is he, really? His current role seems to involve seeking opportunities with Sky News, suggesting that he is desperate for employment. Additionally, from my experience, most Pakistani individuals I have encountered in the UK do not live in poverty; they are hardworking and contribute to society. As for the Somalis, it’s worth noting that many arrived as refugees and have established themselves successfully in various businesses across the UK. A quick search would reveal this. Ultimately, it seems that Phillips frequently undermines Muslim communities, driven by his own biases.
Trevor highlights the ambitious culture of both the Indian and Chinese communities in this country and agrees that middle class white families have the same mindset. He also points out that the migrants tend to be more driven and resourceful than the average working class people they leave behind them. If that is true, migrants have a distinct advantage when competing against the average working class person over here. You can't blame disadvantaged white people for their lack of success, when not only are they competing with home grown middle class privilege but also with a highly motivated influx of migrants too. It's not a level playing field. Of course, culture has a great deal to do with success. The Chinese and Indian diaspora are successful everywhere, in financial terms, but not socially. I have yet to travel anywhere in Asia and Africa where they are loved.
How are Chinese and Indians not successful socially? Would you say the same about Jews, Igbo Nigerians, Christian Yuroba Nigerians, Iranians, Russians?
To even raise the topic of "white supremacism" slants the bias of the debate. The summer "riots" were not about that, at all. Quite ridiculous. And for that reason, I'm out @10:54
Here we are not talking about to immigrant a large number of people to a big vast empty land without local people. Multiculturalism takes the local nation and culture as one of the parts. So rapidly forcing the local and local culture to accept the alien ones without asking the locals are willing or not, this is not fair.
I remember when PM Margaret Thatcher said "there's no such thing as society". This was after the ten Irishmen died on hunger strike in prison. As an Irish person, to whom community was all-encompassing and even stifling at times for a young person, I thought it was odd thing to say, like the old joke: 'one fish says to the other "how's the water?, and the other fish answers "what the hell is water?"' However, later in the 1990s I was living in London, and the absence of a sense of community spirit among the people was noticeable (can't speak for the rest of England)
In a Country with various Labour shortages (NHS, care sector, agriculture… etc…), what did you think would happen when you voted for Brexit, to keep forinnners out? Sajid Javid (& Rishi) supported Brexit explicitly because the EU ‘discriminates’ against ‘people like them’. The plan was always to replace people from Poland, Bulgaria etc. with people from the Commonwealth - mostly Indians and Nigerians of course. I don’t understand why so many are angry.
Its one of the many ironies of the Brexit fiasco that people voted for it specifically to stop immigration. They were well conned. Incomers changed from single young Europeans to African & Asian extended families. Nice one Gove/Johnson/Farage.
There is truth to this. Aren't talented migrants a good thing? The UK use to have a similar per capita income as the USA. Next year the UK is likely to have 60% US per capita income, or a lower per capita income than South Korea, African Americans and the USA's poorest state, Mississippi. At her current trajectory the UK's per capita GDP in my view will fall to less than half US levels; and to a lower per capita income than Malaysia, Greece, Guyana, Panama, Bahamas, Portugal, Aruba, Trinidad & Tobago. The UK suffers from massive brain drain as the graduates of the UK's Russell Group universities (24 elite UK universities) and millionaire class rapidly leave the UK. The UK is likely to have about 600 K emigrants leave the UK next year. Over the past decade the number of nominal US dollar millionaires declined by 8% as the number of nominal US dollar millionaires inside the USA increased by 63% over the past decade. Structurally and organically this UK economic deterioration is worse than it appears from the outside. It is masked by talented migrants who are keeping the UK afloat. Currently, 67 out of the UK's 146 billionaires are migrants (immigrants.) Soon it is probable that the large majority of british billionaires, millionaires, elites and top academic performers will be migrants, children of migrants, grandchildren of migrants or ethnics. Anglo saxon ethnic english are in danger of becoming an indigent underclass in their own country subsidized by migrants and ethnics similar to how the Bumiputera are subsidized in Malaysia.
the reason diversity and multiculturalism worked in the recent past was because the immigrants coming into the country were from countries sharing beliefs and similar traditions and respected differences while bringing their in where it didnt clash with native British traditions but this has changed and now more cultures are clashing as they compete for space, a lot of the time these clashes are imported from foreign clashes which play out on our soil as we let in all these people without thinking about the consequences if these cultures clashed elsewhere, see Indian/Pakistan cultural clashes or Israeli/Palestinian clashes.
Trevor has good points - but his generalization are biased by his own success. Illegal immigration is a definite security threat with so many young men in the cohort. Islamic sectarianism is another threat to social cohesion. However, we have a problem with seeing white people as victims - that is a woke analysis which we despise. The March on Saturday showed we can be British and proud. Let’s help white working class people pull themselves up by their bootstraps and engage on the possibilities that are in our great nation. Our education system needs Katherine Burblsingh to start the restoration of our youth and parents need to engage! 27:23
You feel unmoored from your local communities and like a stranger in a strange land and you blame immigration but what you really describe is globalisation. It is not black and asian people who have made your towns feel hollowed out and decrepit (in many cases they are the only communities keeping business going). Our relationship with America, our reliance on foreign capital, our lack of investment in the social structures that keep a society running so it can be productive, these are what has brought the UK into a spiral of decline. You want something to explain why you no longer talk to your neighbours, maybe its roots can be traced back to a pernicious little woman in the 1980s told you to embrace free market capitalism and get climbing that yuppie ladder because there’s no such thing as society.
@@RaveyDavey it means community centres, youth centres, healthcare (on its arse), education (school roofs falling in and too many kids per classroom) it means good quality affordable social housing, it means funding to revive dead towns, dilapidated seaside resorts, areas on the outskirts of bustling “world” cities like Liverpool and Manchester that are still massively deprived, it means creating social cohesion rather than kicking the can down the road and blaming immigrants every time we ask the question “what the fuck went wrong” ….. it means fixing our water supply, nationalising our railways, providing better social care, doing things which COST MONEY but have the long-term effect of PRODUCTIVE people and an ACTIVE economy rather than this stagnant, depressed spiral where the average house costs 8 times the average salary and nothing works anyway and then the Murdoch press and a succession of previous governments say “Johnny Foreigner took your cookie”.
I would not want yo emigrate and then expect that country to change, our homeland has been given away, this is treasonous, I'd like to have a melting pot here and there - but not this level and having our history re written so that others feel comfortable - I am not comfortable
Didn’t Australia and America change to accommodate immigrants? I do agree that in the modern age people should attempt to integrate if they move to another country however people seem to forget other examples where this not the case. Also I think failure to integrate is a catch all term applied to everyone.
A white working class lad from a poor council estate has absolutely no chance in modern Britain. He has all the disadvantages of being poor, whilst having to overcome all the prejudices held by our ruling class.
'A white working class lad from a poor council estate' never had much chance in Britain, modern or not. Indeed, they actually have a much better chance now. Pre 1990s the working class system in the UK was ruthless, most professions were policed by the upper middle classes. Absolute poverty levels were much higher. These days a working class lad has more social / legal rights, higher disposable incomes, less chance of living in absolute poverty, better health, longer life expectancy, more access to higher education and to professions previously preserved for the upper middle classes. They will travel more, experience more and have a better life than than any working class generation before them
I grew up on a council estate near Sheffield. Two mates from the same estate and I passed the eleven plus and attended the local grammar school. All three of us have had good careers. I'm convinced that if kids work hard at school and get good grades in their exams, they too can be successful.
haha
@@importantjohn Professions are still policed by the upper middle classes, but now you need a degree to join the police force, get anywhere in the army, and for a large number of entry level jobs that would not have required them in the 20th century. You say that they have more legal rights, but these lads are now actively discriminated against in the public sector (this isn't hypothetical it is the natural consequence of diversity quotas).
Private rents are also far more punishing than they were even 10 years ago and wages have gone nowhere in 16 years, so assuming that this working class lad from a poor area has to move to get a decent job then his disposable income will be extremely low.
I don't disagree that some things are much better now than in 1950 with regards to technology and health care, but modern working class lads are not in competition with peers from the 1950s.
@@joesoy9185 I wouldn't make the claim that white working class lads had no chance 30 or 40 years ago.
Britain used to be a home. It's now a hotel where people live next to each other but not amongst each other. There has been a extended and concerted attack on our history, our culture, our identity led by institutions and then puzzlement as to why young people feel no affiliation to this country. The contract between government and the people to protect our borders has been violated on a criminal scale and ironically, the reasons to live here, have been undermined by the very people who came. Enoch Powell was right to sound the alarm, but it is too late now. The damage is irreversible.
Where there's a will, there's a way.
It's not irreversible, but you need to have a nation building politician who is happy to be vilified by the left - most of whom are the young people you talk about!
So according to youngest black people's fault.
@@hjjjjk8399 No. It's the governments and institutions that allowed it to happen
I am glad to see someone understands that the damage is irreversible. I am thoroughly sick of those fools who keep believing that the next election will solve the problem.
In UK, only ethnic minorities are allowed to talk about race without being branded racist.
It’s the same thing in the USA so it’s not just happening in the uk
Yep, this is the argument Badenoch is putting forward for being leader of the Tories.
Apparently, she is allowed to say things that an indigenous Brit isnt 'allowed' to say.
Tell me again how there is no two tier system in the UK?
It's partly true: there are worse repercussions for white Brits who talk about this. But, let's be honest, white Brits have lost their balls. We all just need to be a little braver - not hateful or violent: braver.
Well it’s always going to be that way isn’t it? Whether it’s the UK or anywhere else in Europe. But at least we’ve got this conversation right here.
Ethnic minorities do get called racist. Look at Suella Bravernman as an example.
No mention that for decades the British public have consistently voted for less immigration. So the demographic change Trevor points to was not wanted, as generally it’s felt that Britain was OK before. Data shows we are not getting the best and the scale across Europe is killing the golden goose.
I just watched video about the psychological and behaviour environment in many UK schools (not every school ofcourse, there are strict one's and this seems to be only real option + expensive private schools) . Do you really think you can make anything good out of pupils who forced to spend time in schools together with kids who ruin the education process and actually rather require to be swiftly removed to special needs schools.
@@markchandler5860 most people in the uk vote for left wing parties who do not generally advocate less immigration
@@bibastarmedia9650 @markchandler5860, how can talented migrants save England from economic collapse?
The UK use to have a similar per capita income as the USA. Next year the UK is likely to have 60% US per capita income, or a lower per capita income than South Korea, African Americans and the USA's poorest state, Mississippi. At her current trajectory the UK's per capita GDP in my view will fall to less than half US levels; and to a lower per capita income than Malaysia, Greece, Guyana, Panama, Bahamas, Portugal, Aruba, Trinidad & Tobago.
The UK suffers from massive brain drain as the graduates of the UK's Russell Group universities (24 elite UK universities) and millionaire class rapidly leave the UK. The UK is likely to have about 600 K emigrants leave the UK next year. Over the past decade the number of nominal US dollar millionaires declined by 8% as the number of nominal US dollar millionaires inside the USA increased by 63% over the past decade.
Structurally and organically this UK economic deterioration is worse than it appears from the outside. It is masked by talented migrants who are keeping the UK afloat. Currently, 67 out of the UK's 146 billionaires are migrants (immigrants.) Soon it is probable that the large majority of british billionaires, millionaires, elites and top academic performers will be migrants, children of migrants, grandchildren of migrants or ethnics. Anglo saxon ethnic english are in danger of becoming an indigent underclass in their own country subsidized by migrants and ethnics similar to how the Bumiputera are subsidized in Malaysia.
Correct.
And he's been at the forefront of destroying any arguments against immigration, not that he ever made any sense!
They just can't leave our country alone for some reason!
Sir Trevor is wrong about the quality of people coming in. 96% are unskilled and are a burden on the taxpayer.
Don’t you want any more Uber drivers or kebab shops or barbers?
Always has been like that
@@unbabunga229 Not really. No
Sadly we do not have the factory jobs for these people to be employed in anymore ....... !
@@unbabunga229no
I'm sick of hearing the term "White" / "White majority". Never in the history of these islands, have its native inhabitants used their skin colour as the basis for their identities; this idea is as American and imported as "blue jeans and rock n roll". The term "White" only means anything when used outside of its context (Europe); we are inside our context.
The idea that someone whose grandparents were from Bangladesh is "British Bengali", and yet I; whose ancestors have lived in these islands for thousands of years, am merely "White", is deeply disrespectful. Not only is it an absurdity, but fortunately for us, and unfortunately for you; it's an unsustainable absurdity.
Good point that you made. De-colonization movements provided the best reminder of the true historical demographic nature of the UK.
A sizable part of these movements were based on colonized non-whites v colonial white overlords.
@@tkm238-d4r exactly yes, and the coloniser thing makes no sense in Britain either, I'm not a coloniser, because I was born in Britain 🤷♂️ so my direct ancestors didn't leave 😂
"Ah but the British government did colonialism overseas" - a similar charge is levelled against modern Germans due to the Nazis, but "the sins of the father" is an immoral idea; ironically it was one of the charges levelled by the Nazis, against the Jews they murdered 🤷♂️
@@ReekieReelsthis is wot the race baiters want that way they get to stay victims
@@suewood8538 agreed 👏
It should just be: 'native'
The idea that we are getting 'the best of the best' through immigration is ludicrous. The fact that someone who is considered to be serious enough to be invited onto Spectator TV is able to say such things unchallenged by the interviewer is even more surprising.
The idea that the British people simply have to accept mass migration, along with the social mores of the migrants is untrue. I hope the British people do not roll over and accept the elite consensus.
watch a bit longer because he explains that there is an obvious difference between the 3-4k net migration of when his parents arrived versus the half a million net that arrive now. Mainly that historically they all spoke English and arrived from the same place (typically British colonies).
80% of migration is low skilled labour
I would venture to guess he makes distinctions among legal immigrants, illegal immigrants, and refugees.
You are forgetting about the issue of white guilt connected to slavery, let's not deceive ourselves here, our involvement in slavery, has put us at a larger disadvantage than ever.
@@Walley28 Only because we don’t teach each other and our children that we were the first major power in the history of humanity to end slavery at great cost to us economically (we paid slave owners to free slaves all over the world spending half of our wealth at the time) and the cost in money and lives by using our navy to stop the trade world wide. We also give billions to Africa nations every year. What more do people want. We’ve dont the most out of and group of human being since humans have been on earth.
Most ethnic minorities have a 'homeland to go back to or visit'. Where will us English go when our country is gone? This is why people are upset, we have been uprooted and marginalised. I read the report and it was very well written and researched. However, the picture for the 'white British' was dismal especially on health and mortality rates. In fact, some ethnic minorities live a full 10 years longer than the white British.
Check out Australia.
@@bnielsen56 agree
They do. We are being evicted from our own house. We have fortresses established here
The vast majority of ‘white Britons’ are descended from the Yamnaya culture who arrived at the beginning of the Bronze Age. So your ancestral homeland is somewhere in Ukraine or SW Russia.
@@bnielsen56 So are you saying we deserve it because of what our governments done 100's of years ago? We, the working class of this country should pay the price for their mistakes?
What an unlovely turn of phrase he has for the native born English (08:46) - 'for those we now consider the majority'. The way he frames this is as if the UK is just made of transient ethnic groups in their own ghettoised cultures, butting up against each other. It all sounds rather fragmented, cold, and distant to me. But then again, the England of my parents and grand-parents generation has long since vanished.
He's a foreigner and he's always been an enemy to the British people
And that we've always hitherto considered ourselves to the "lucky ones" and when we become a minority we will then consider ourselves to be the "unlucky" ones.
I believe that’s exactly why he used that phrase - precisely because there are many different cultures within the “white majority”. It’s not really a homogenous majority bloc.
Over half of the UK will be foreign born by 2040, now that’s the most depressing thing I’ve heard in a while
Don't worry I am black born here but I am leaving this miserable racist country. The world is vast.
Foreign born or children or grandchildren of foreign born he said i.e. people with no roots in the country
@@hjjjjk8399 I did the same in the 1990s - you'll be back
Its moved forward by 20 years. Previously they were saying 2066.
@@hjjjjk8399 good. Bye 😢
The problem is we didn't insist on English language and integration. If they chose to move here but many hold to cultural practices that are inappropriate.
That+ the numbers. Ultimately its the numbers x
We should have insisted on 3 years of non-combat military or social work.
The issue of integration is a false flag to persecute minorities. Look at what happened in nazi Germany. The jews were very well integrated into German society, they lived and dressed like them and were economically successful. And look what happened to
them. It's part of the sinister divide and conquer strategy.
Most indigenous white British people can't speak English, are you going to kick them out?
Even if it was possible, why would integration be desirable? Britain belongs to ethnic groups (English, Scottish, Welsh, etc.) that you can't just assimilate into. Just like you can't just become Chinese, whether born there or not, you can't just become British.
I’m British and live in Cape Town.
People are well ahead of the curve down here. They understand that ‘diversity’ is not some sort of moral ideal but is rather a predicament that has to be fastidiously managed.
The picture that is being painted here (in very genteel language) is an incoming sectarian nightmare.
lol South Arifca?! Yes that's a great model for acceptance and diversity. Do you want to bring back apartheid? Or are you arguing that all white people should leave South Africa?
This Trevor talks some BS, those BAME conservatives have 2 things in common, 1: they hide anything that could possibly be conceived as non British/white, 2: they're all married to white people which means they're in that club, i.e, the people that accept them would not accept me, a regular black man.
@@exiled2home You started all this migration. Reap it!
Fait accompli to deal with
@@Hypocritial tell the jews to deal with the holocaust.
You probably won't work again.
We never wanted mass immigration and no one would listen. I simply don't understand what the architects of this had in mind or thought would happen. Heseltine rallied Tory opposition to Powell in 1968, yet acknowledged a Powell led Tory party would have won a historic majority in the 1970 election. Supposed moderate Roy Hattersley acknowledged that public opinion was overwhelmingly in favour of a complete ban on immigration in 1964, yet he believed it was right to ignore it. We are now living with the consequences that everyone but the decision makers knew was inevitable. We have lost our identity. "Whiteness" is a pejorative term on the left, we clearly have a two tier police, legislature and judiciary and we are within sight of becoming a minority in our own homeland. Two generations of men died for nothing between 1914 - 1945. The powers that be are now making noises about reintroducing conscription to face the Russian and Chinese "threat". Who are they kidding? What are we going to fight for? A lot of us would see Russian paratroopers as liberators
The London elite would be smart not to arm the public
@@indi_prime my thoughts exactly
@@kevinbill9574 I bet you regret Britain even had a mass global robbery system until the end of WW2.....(sorry I meant to say "Empire").... in the first place.
Britain was doomed from the moment it started to build an Empire, gorge itself on wealth from other countries and build infrastructure with it. Trouble is, you're wealthy elites never learned to live without having an Empire and chasing a strong Pound Sterling above everything else became their only goal. Now look at you......engineering industries, finished.....public services such as rail and water, in the gutter.....housing, an overpriced mess. You're country's in the toilet and finished. It's time you pulled down the lid and pull the flushing handle. It'll make you feel better in the long term, I promise.
It's the economy, stupid. Your social anxiety is of no interest to the government, because more people equals more money.
The two world wars were fought to prevent migrants from living in the UK? 😂
Just as the 'nonwhite' communities of this country are not homogenous, nor are the 'white' communities. White diversity is also rich, and precious to many of us.
1000%. There is a huge about of nonbinary multiplicity, pluralism and diversity within English culture. Which is a major reason English culture is so endearing to people around the world.
You mean the class system? Then, it certainly depends on which rung of the ladder you stand.
@@AnAn___ Explain that please.
Man, his smugness regarding the demographic time bomb is insufferable.
And the way he refers to himself as part of the elite...
@@katemelton1589 That's one of the few things we'd agree on, he is undoubtedly in a position of power, but that's only because his career is built on repeating the correct London dinner party shibboleths
@@katemelton1589typical
Money and fame have gone to his head. He hasn't the first idea about integration.
Pot, black
Have you looked at the latest OBR stats and such as Matt Goodwin on the economic effect on immigration Trevor?
Cause he hasn’t. He’s useless.
Trevor is a DEI hire.
@@LloydLaughalot I have gone through the latest OBR reports. It is probably that soon the vast majority of UK elites, upper middle class, millionaires and billionaires will be migrants, children of migrants, grandchildren of migrants, ethnics. Already 67 out of the UK's 146 billionaires are migrants. What are your thoughts about this?
@@drstrangelove4998 Matt Godwin is a pseudo academic. The overwhelming evidence does not indicate immigration has a negative economic cost
Anyone who wasn’t alive to the conclusions now presented in Rakib’s report, as long ago as the 1980s, had their eyes wide shut. The blind arrogance of the establishment has been quite staggering.
The establishment is quite happy, thank you very much, since tax revenue is the only thing of interest - you are irrelevant, like the rest of the public as far as they are concerned.
With over four million here from the religion of peace, within two generations they’ll be over a third of the population. Can anyone see remigration??? We’ve already lost. We just can’t see it yet. What a shame, we were great once.
Another far rioter still trying to take their country back to the stone age.
Unfortunately, have to sort of agree with you.
Contrary to the globalist talk, the mass migration did not occur as a result of market forces only.
As late as the late 1980s, the HK BNO passport holders requested for a right of abode to UK after 1997.
After considering there could be an estimated 3m holders, Mrs Thatcher said no.
This policy showed that immigration could be controlled. How many HKers came over from 1945 to 1997? From my observation, not that many.
As for certain types of people coming in, perhaps not a coincidence that they came from backgrounds that was linked to maintaining post-1945 Anglo-White geopolitical dominance for the globalist elites.
Not a coincidence the establishment saw Pakistan in more favorable terms than India, despite Pakistan's known track record.
As of 2024, the Anglo-Canadian establishment seemed very interested in the Khalistan issue, something which India objected.
After 9/11, we were repeatedly told not all persons of certain backgrounds were terrorists. But wait, wasn't that a statement of the obvious? Of course not everyone of the same backgrounds thought in the same way.
Why the need to highlight this when during the Cold War, we were not told that not all Russians were communists?🙄
Totally agree. When did we drop the 'Great' from GREAT BRITAIN? Why are so many white liberals so ashamed of our amazing history?
You really can't be so pessimistic. What they want is for us to shut up and accept defeat.
@@declanstewart5690 - I really hope I’m wrong. How do you see any conceivable way that this is going to change? Sweden has massively upped their re migration payment, but at only one year’s social benefit, why would they leave? Their birth rate is huge, over four per family. Ours is still declining! These people won’t leave unless they’re forced to and that’s not going to happen. Reform can barely mention stopping the boats and get sidelined, ‘re migration’? You’d get arrested! Our establishment is too filled with lefties (we swing from Tory to Labour electorally and they’re both as bad) so I can think of no way this can end well. I hope I’m wrong.
When a Jew, a muslim and a gay hair dresser can share the same barber shop on a typical high-street, i will consider them integrated and showing their British values.
My hairdresser in Tottenham is gay and has black, white, Jewish and muslim customers. Maybe that's just London.
You've clearly never been to London or any major UK city. You will find what you describe in most offices, shops, restaurants etc Have you ever ventured out of your local village?
Very strange comment, this does not even exist with ethnic whites.
What's with hairdressers? Not exactly socially unacceptable, but try wearing a T-shirt in London saying religion is bullshit - a key British value where you could have open opinions - and see how far you get.
@@bnielsen56 Religion is bullshit is a British value? Do you know about the history of the common law?
And do you not remember the famous atheist adverts all over buses in the late 2000s.
Where do you even get your information from ?
For many years people have been pointing out, with evidence, that class is a bigger barrier to advancement than race, ethnicity, etc.
It’s culture more than anything.
This point a 1000% OP. It’s not culture. Go to China or India and you will find millions of poor people who only finish middle school. These are not the kind of people who immigrate to the UK. I am so tired of listening to these kinds of analysts talking about how we need to learn from Indian or Chinese education culture without nary a recognition that’s it’s the most upwardly mobile from those societies that move abroad. Why the heck are you surprised that their kids do better than the natives and then turn around and blame the natives? For crying out loud, do a class analysis and realize the values of working class people and the values/culture that the mass media tells working class people to pursue. I don’t understand how these telecasters can be so educated but yet sooooo dumb !!
This point a 1000% OP. It’s not culture. Go to China or India and you will find millions of poor people who only finish middle school. These are not the kind of people who immigrate to the UK. I am so tired of listening to these kinds of analysts talking about how we need to learn from Indian or Chinese education culture without nary a recognition that’s it’s the most upwardly mobile from those societies that move abroad. Why the heck are you surprised that their kids do better than the natives and then turn around and blame the natives? For crying out loud, do a class analysis and realize the values of working class people and the values/culture that the mass media tells working class people to pursue. I don’t understand how these telecasters can be so educated but yet sooooo dumb !!
@@junsu21 This comment will get deleted, but the fact is that many from those cultures are cheating on exams, multiple choice style tests since CC was rolled out. Initially, it was dissemination of leaked exam papers within their community. Access to illegal copies of very expensive study materials, such as Kaplan or Schweiser.
Currently, exams invigilators just dictate the answers, and it was filmed undercover again and again.
@@MsChitterchat No, it's not. See Gregory Clark's research: social class is 70% heritable, so 30% environmental, which includes culture plus other things, including measurement error.
British people have consistently voted against more immigration, and persistently voted for a drastic reduction in current levels of immigration. Successive governments for over half a century have refused to implement the will and wants of the voting population, and it appears as though it's all beginning to come to a head.
I am historically a Labour voter - mostly due to the clear economic performance difference between Labour and Conservatives, and the fact that being heavily involved in business it is important that the country has as strong an economy as is possible; and that means voting Labour, whether or not I disagree with whatever else that may entail with regards to more liberal - some may say compassionate, views, when it comes to social welfare, trade unions, and so on... but if anybody believes that Labour will be in power for a second term if they do not get a firm grip on enforcing integration, and achieves a notable reduction in immigration levels over the next five years, then you simply do not understand the growing anger amongst the British population.
I do not say this lightly, because I believe that it would have pretty drastic consequences for the British economy, but Reform are more than a fringe party, and Reform coming to power is not just a pipe dream.
Another point was that there were indications that persons of immigration background voted for less immigration partly because they saw the later arrivals were not of their own kind.
Take for example, the Windrush children that did become UK citizens. How many voted for more Pakistanis?
How many Pakistanis like to live in a neighbourhood with lots of blacks?
The reality is that the London Labour Globalist Republic live in a world of its own. Of course higher end Pakistani and Black intellectuals are able to interact together.
Outside of the London Republic, Pakistanis and Blacks do not necessarily like each other.
As a UK immigrant of Balkan decent I have often been criticised by 'native' white Britons for advocating for cultural integration. My family have integrated rather well. To note a few examples: we put gravy on our chips, we drink pints, we sing the national anthem and speak English when in public. All in all we try our best to integrate. I have never been able to understand why many black Londoners speak like Jamaicans and why many suburban white youth copy this way of speaking. It boggles the mind that in many areas of Manchester like Longsight or Rusholme there are streets with only Muslims living there, going to local mosques and shopping in shops that import goods from their various lands of birth. How then are these people supposed to integrate if A) they do not want to and B) are encouraged not to?
Moreover some immigrants I've met fall in a poor habit of criticising anything about the UK social, political or cultural. I always tend to ask them, if the UK is so bad, and back where they were born is so good, how come they still choose to stay here? Always the answer either is an uncomfortable silence or criticism that the question is unfair.
It is time to have a mature debate about immigration, cultural integration, social acceptance and community. Until that happens we will have uneducated, frustrated, white ,working class youths rioting, with their ethnic counterparts; divided ethnic areas in the cities; and an increasingly violent political polarisation where one side pretends we cannot have integration and the other that immigration presents no social issues.
Its called colonialism. Neocolonialism if you'd like to linguistically distinguish yourself from brainrotted communists, while simultaneously deconstructing their attack vector. I appreciate you and your efforts, mate, however the time for integration has passed as a consequence of the sheer numbers and open dehumanisation of native Brits, who've been left no choice but to put up walls or lose everything
So true 👍 facts for your balanced and insightful input 👌😊
Jamaicans were here before you. 1960- don't get ahead of yourself.
@@eXclusive1 And yet they still have not integrated. Don't forget yourself.
I'm married to an Indian lady (from India) but I don't want to see India look like Bristol, anymore than I want to see Birmingham look like Calcutta.
Exactly - when I go to Greece, Italy I want to see their culture and people
So you are up for a divorce and a swift enforced 'repatriation' then? Seems to be what you're saying . Does your wife know?
@@SimonWallwork Clearly she chose wrongly then
Very bizarre statement to make.
@@perryvalton3296 Not at all, if a European married into another cultural group it would be an expectation that they don't deconstruct their host culture and call for the mass movement of Europeans in pursuit of an ethnocidal politic, simply to have more people who look like them walking around.
3:30 Multiculturalism is parallel societies, it is intentional, it isn't assimilation and integration,.
Multiculturalism is Anjem Choudary not Suella Braverman.
We were never asked.
People were not asked where they were born, who their parents were, if they wanted colonialism or slavery. However, it seems only certain people need to be asked.
@shanghaichica Your presence is racial revenge. It takes nothing fir the mask to slip. Multiculturalism is a cancer on this country
Suella is a politician.
No parallel societies is Parallel Monoculturalism NOT Multiculturalism.
Multiculturalism requires mutual respect between cultures, not least the host culture. It requires Integration and acceptance.
What we have, more and more, is Parallel Monoculturalism. Society is De-Integrating or more correctly disintegrating as a result.
Trevor has actually flip flopped multiple times on the subject. He used to talk about the dangers of silo-isation, which is what we now have.
Yep. Multiculti forces every group to become clannish eventually.
It might be good for the economy, I don't know, but I guess I just miss my home...
In the same other people are allowed to take pride in their people and culture, I used to. But I don't know who the British people anymore? A few decades ago we were a unique and largely unchanged population for 4,500 years, but I'm told today anyone with a British passport is British so it's hard to take pride in that. And what is British culture? I find when I suggest that Britain should remain culturally British I'm attacked, because depending on who you ask Britain's culture has to either be all cultures, or that there is no British culture.
Whether I should or shouldn't feel it, I am homesick.
Our grief is their meat and wine. When they look around everything they see was built and invented by Europeans, tearing it down makes them feel powerful.
‘Unique and unchanged’ - what utter bollix!
You forget the Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Vikings, Normans, Flemings, Huguenots, Jews, Irish…. And many many more.
Remember that even Farage is the descendant of French immigrants.
@@charlesbruggmann7909 Well it's not... Modern indigenous Brits share 90% of their DNS with the beaker people who inhabited Britain 4,500 years ago. And until the late 20th century 99% of the UK was indigenous. To your point we had cultural change from various invasions, but none of those invasions significantly changed population genetics. And that wasn't the point I was making.
Pretty vile you would be trying to deny the existence of an indigenous people anyway, but in your defence I understand this is the norm. I guess you think there's no such thing as Indians either given Brits went there hundreds of years ago and some have British ancestry? Or do you just apply this logic to indigenous European populations?
@@kryp879
Every one of these groups - and others had an influence (changed) on the culture.
"90% of their DNS with the beaker people who inhabited Britain 4,500 years ago" - like everybody else in W Europe. The 'beaker culture' might have originated in modern Portugal and dominated Europe as far East as Poland.
until the late 20th century 99% of the UK was indigenous - including or excluding Ireland or even Scotland.
PS: I am not sure that either of these stats really stands up.
@@charlesbruggmann7909 Given you don't deny the genetics of the population, I think what you're saying is that you don't believe there can be an indigenous population if that population shares similar genetics to other populations? So for example you would deny there was no Aztec or Inca people because they shared the majority of their genetics and shared the same ancestors?
On the 99% I meant Britain, not UK so excluding Ireland. Sorry about that.
Speaking as someone from the deprived areas of the UK, I can say that we experienced absolutely NO privilege and have been treated despicably by the eliteist poiticians. Personally, I worked like a dog and built my busines in the UK and abroad against every government attempt to drag me down. After years of watching things degrade I have closed all my business interests and investments in the UK and moved to more business-friendly shores and my family and business are never better.
Not all cultures are created equal Trevor.
@@paulies5407
Absolutely 👍
This is exactly what Trevor said.
Yes I totally agree!! I’m a white indigenous British Muslim I am Scottish/Celtic in blood and clan and I’m not an Anglo Saxon/ Viking/Roman/Norman invader like many of those with the loudest mouths are! I am a Muslim because Islam is a superior way of life and worship and culture! I feel so sickened by the drug infested and crime ridden white majority areas that I could never ever live there! Infact I can only live in a Muslim majority city because of the state of those places! To be British is to embrace hedonism, selfishness, illicit sexual behaviour and intoxication, family breakdown and moral rot!!! Terrorism today was funded and created in Afghanistan through the resurrection of an ancient scourge on the Muslim world called the Kharijites! The CIA,MOSSAD,MI5/6 resurrected the ideology of these nut-jobs to murder primarily Muslims but also to attack the west in order to demonise Islam!! The fact that hundreds of thousands of indigenous white Brits have become Muslim scares them add to this those converts from Caribbean heritage and the establishment is getting worried because Christianity is dead and makes absolutely no sense where as Islam does make sense because it reminds one of old days Grandad used to talk about !! Britain has destabilised Iraq, Syria and continues to meddle in the politics of the Muslim world and they have created most of the problems we’re facing! Britain was fine importing Pakistanis for cheap labour but now they have a problem even though the businesses the Indian Subcontinent Muslims have created in Britain bring in billions to the economy!!
Yes I totally agree!! I’m a white indigenous British Muslim I am Scottish/Celtic in blood and clan and I’m not an Anglo Saxon/ Viking/Roman/Norman invader like many of those with the loudest mouths are! I am a Muslim because Islam is a superior way of life and worship and culture! I feel so sickened by the drug infested and crime ridden white majority areas that I could never ever live there! Infact I can only live in a Muslim majority city because of the state of those places! To be British is to embrace hedonism, selfishness, illicit sexual behaviour and intoxication, family breakdown and moral rot!!! Terrorism today was funded and created in Afghanistan through the resurrection of an ancient scourge on the Muslim world called the Kharijites! The CIA,MOSSAD,MI5/6 resurrected the ideology of these nut-jobs to murder primarily Muslims but also to attack the west in order to demonise Islam!! The fact that hundreds of thousands of indigenous white Brits have become Muslim scares them add to this those converts from Caribbean heritage and the establishment is getting worried because Christianity is dead and makes absolutely no sense where as Islam does make sense because it reminds one of old days Grandad used to talk about !! Britain has destabilised Iraq, Syria and continues to meddle in the politics of the Muslim world and they have created most of the problems we’re facing! Britain was fine importing Pakistanis for cheap labour but now they have a problem even though the businesses the Indian Subcontinent Muslims have created in Britain bring in billions to the economy!!
Yes I totally agree!! I’m a white indigenous British Muslim I am Scottish/Celtic in blood and clan and I’m not an Anglo Saxon/ Viking/Roman/Norman invader like many of those with the loudest mouths are! I am a Muslim because Islam is a superior way of life and worship and culture! I feel so sickened by the drug infested and crime ridden white majority areas that I could never ever live there! Infact I can only live in a Muslim majority city because of the state of those places! To be British is to embrace hedonism, selfishness, illicit sexual behaviour and intoxication, family breakdown and moral rot!!! Terrorism today was funded and created in Afghanistan through the resurrection of an ancient scourge on the Muslim world called the Kharijites! The CIA,MOSSAD,MI5/6 resurrected the ideology of these nut-jobs to murder primarily Muslims but also to attack the west in order to demonise Islam!! The fact that hundreds of thousands of indigenous white Brits have become Muslim scares them add to this those converts from Caribbean heritage and the establishment is getting worried because Christianity is dead and makes absolutely no sense where as Islam does make sense because it reminds one of old days Grandad used to talk about !! Britain has destabilised Iraq, Syria and continues to meddle in the politics of the Muslim world and they have created most of the problems we’re facing! Britain was fine importing Pakistanis for cheap labour but now they have a problem even though the businesses the Indian Subcontinent Muslims have created in Britain bring in billions to the economy!!
The other point about not integrating and it not being a problem is pure ignorance and arrogant foolishness. Britain’s culture is over a thousand years old and evolved from natural progression. It has been the most successful of all countries. You’re diluting it at rapid speed and this will be to the peril of future generations.
@Louise I totally agree with you
@Minimmalmythicist relevance? Read more widely.
@Minimmalmythicist 1080's is about a thousand years? There has not been any major migrations between 1080 and very recent times (Huguenots were about 50K over 100 years). More migration has happened in the last 25 years than the 900 before combined.
@Minimmalmythicist Ireland was an integral part of Britain from 1800 until 1921 same as Wales, Scotland or indeed Surrey, internal movement within the UK is a completely different issue.
@Minimmalmythicist
Even in 1066 the number of immigrants was tiny - a few tens of thousands (but they did take over).
As for the “French immigration” - I assume you refer to the Huguenots - about 50,000. The immigration from France post 1980 is 6 x that.
13:04 We're not just getting the best immigrants, we're getting the worst. And the problem is the benefits derived from the former are vastly outweighed by the latter.
"THey aren't sending us their best." Donald Trump.
This is 100% correct. That comment was so out of touch it was frankly bizarre.
That an African, a Chinese or an Arab can stand on the streets of an English town and be called a "minority" is one of the greatest lies of our time.
What about native Americans who became a minority in their own land due to British colonisation?
@ftdecastrolondon there was no such thing as a native American before Europeans arrived, there were 100+ tribes, many of which practiced cannibalism, ritual sacrifice and as a matter of routine ethnically cleansed other tribes. There is a huge difference between settling land and bringing technology to sustain millions of people, including millions more native Americans than existed before Europeans arrived, and displacing people from their ancestral cities as an act of veiled, or not so veiled now, resentment due to an inferiority complex. You only believe what you do to salve the wounds of shirked duty, leaving no inheritence behind for children who will remember you as a coward and a traitor
Is the United States a country independent of Britain or not?
@@courtilz1012 The two countries keep very linked. It's inevitable.
The office for national statistics have recently released a report stating that less than 10% of immigrants have qualifications suitable to support the uk economy and only 5% actually contribute to the economy. By the time an immigrant is 80yrs old they will have cost the uk £500,000, the cost to the taxpayer is going to run into billions…..no wonder the winter fuel payment has been stopped, it’s being spent on scrounging immigrants and not on the people that have worked all their lives to create the wealth. How I hate both Tory and Labour.
The cost already IS in the billions.
Legal migrants can’t access benefits.
Please provide a link to this 'report'. I can't find it anywhere.....
It wasn't the ONS it was the OBR... 👍
@@aries6776 He should have written OBR, not ONS; the telegraph did a rather long, but still accurate, summary of it... 👍
8:50 "One group, distinguished by its geography and its colour" - this is basically coded genocidal rhetoric. We are the native peoples (plural) of these islands, it's our culture. Your communities are a byproduct of British state policy, while ours would exist even if there was no British state; because we are the peoples who brought the British state into existence. You are the ones who have distinguished yourselves by your colour, not us.
Cope
They're the future
I missed the part where he talked about killing a specific ethnic group? 🤔
@sebfox2194 because he's claiming that the native peoples of Britain are merely distinguished by geography and colour; he may as well be describing bloody fir trees. When you frame them this, demographic replacement becomes a lot easier to justify to yourself; which helps if you want to be able to sleep at night.
@@ReekieReels It's happening no matter what.
The UK forced multiculturalism in many countries. In places like the US, Canada or Australia the native population was massacred and a "new civilization" was imposed. What is happening to Britain now is sort of a boomerang effect.
True... Britain has actually done the most damage to the world.... they colonised the world which itself is problematic- there's a huge darkside to that type of imperialism but Britain has the poorest track record on Indigenes of all colonizers and also perfected the "divide and conquer" tactic and architected apartheid as seen in the British colonies of the US/Canada, Southern Africa, Israel-Palestine... so let's switch the mirror 🪞 who has much more ills against their name?
However, the existing population in this country has the political possibility of withdrawing its consent.
@richardyates7280 It doesn't work like this...
So you are saying the argument for mass migration is for revenge basically. Not a positive argument for it, its just a tool of revenge against the British. Mask off moment confirmed.
Just returned from two weeks in London after having left 16 years ago, and honestly, I’m shocked. As a Londoner, I have friends from across the spectrum of communities in the city. Across the board, my friends from Afro-Caribbean, Indian, Jewish, and other groups talked about how sketchy London has become, specifically pointing to young Muslim men. This concern was raised particularly by my female friends (both Black and White). This group is highly problematic and needs to be addressed and called out. They are being pandered to, and the "establishment" seems afraid to confront the issue for what it is. Islam is not compatible with Western Values. The sooner this is recognized the better.
Would you say London and England have a conservative sunni islamist punjabi pakistan cis male problem? If so, what do you think can be done about this?
We were never asked. I will never ever be forced to live in a 'multicultural' area...I have moved once and I will move again.
Soon you won't have anywhere to run
@@Manuscriptsdontburn1990 That's what they want for us, there's no doubt.
@@Manuscriptsdontburn1990😂 You clearly not aware how big earth is just in Russia the unhabited land is huge might not be the best climate but you in peace from these 😂😂 darks don't like -40
@@Manuscriptsdontburn1990 Good.
Soon there will be no place left to run.
This is so so horrible. I am a white English male and I was never consulted over whether I wanted to live in a 'majority foreign born' country. Why must I have to learn about Nigerian or Indian culture? I have no interest in it. I have no desire to understand it. They are not my people, they are not like me. I don't really want them here or care to know them, yet it is done to me against my will.
You don’t have to learn anything about their culture at all if you don’t want to, but it may be that you end up working with somebody who you actually quite like, and it turns out that they come from a different cultural background, and you become friends. That’s how people discover about other cultures. Nobody is forcing it down your throat.
@@suewood8538 I had similar with Kilmarnock, just couldn't be bothered keeping up the research.
@@annharries9968 Nobody is forcing it down my throat? I live in an area that was historically 90%+ white British. It's now less than 40%. There's a jerk chicken place on every corner and stabbings are commonplace. How dare you say it's not forced on me. Of course it is.
@@suewood8538 I think curiosity is normal. The more we find out about different cultures, the more commonalities and unity we feel with them. There is a lot that cultures from around the world share.
@PHJ1441, if you and ethnic english study other cultures, this will greatly help in making money and improving socio-economic and academic outcomes.
The UK use to have a similar per capita income as the USA. Next year the UK is likely to have 60% US per capita income, or a lower per capita income than South Korea, African Americans and the USA's poorest state, Mississippi. At her current trajectory the UK's per capita GDP in my view will fall to less than half US levels; and to a lower per capita income than Malaysia, Greece, Guyana, Panama, Bahamas, Portugal, Aruba, Trinidad & Tobago.
The UK suffers from massive brain drain as the graduates of the UK's Russell Group universities (24 elite UK universities) and millionaire class rapidly leave the UK. The UK is likely to have about 600 K emigrants leave the UK next year. Over the past decade the number of nominal US dollar millionaires declined by 8% as the number of nominal US dollar millionaires inside the USA increased by 63% over the past decade.
Structurally and organically this UK economic deterioration is worse than it appears from the outside. It is masked by talented migrants who are keeping the UK afloat. Currently, 67 out of the UK's 146 billionaires are migrants (immigrants.) Soon it is probable that the large majority of british billionaires, millionaires, elites and top academic performers will be migrants, children of migrants, grandchildren of migrants or ethnics. Anglo saxon ethnic english are in danger of becoming an indigent underclass in their own country subsidized by migrants and ethnics similar to how the Bumiputera are subsidized in Malaysia.
What is the downside in being curious about other cultures, prisms, perspectives, philosophies and thoughts?
Jesus CHRIST pal. When you’ve finished crying read a fucking book.
“They are not my people. They are not like me. I don’t really want them here or care to know them, yet it is done to me against my will.”
- India & Africa, 1602-1947
I’m not sure car wash gangs and barbers are the best of the best.
I agree. Just look at the IT industry and the NHS. Full of the non-English unskilled types....
You can partly blame local authorities for this
have you used the NHS lately? Have you been to a pub or restaurant in the last few years? Have you had any building work done lately?
@@kevinnicholson7722 I've recently had cancer treatment and it was very good. Last pub I went to had mostly British staff and I know builders who are British although I haven't used one for a while.
hahahaha
Am i missing something here if a foreign firm such as Amazon opens up a branch here and then the government allows more immigration so as to provide the labour force for it as well as pying a third of their wage bill all of their pensions and healthcare despite them contributing zero in tax revenue my question is what exactly is in it for British taxpayers?
You did not mention unfair competition for the local bussinesses, and the fact that Amazon did not even have to pay VAT when they started selling in the UK.
Large volumes of people can not be integrated. Less migration and only highly skilled. The government do not and never had a mandate for changing the UK in the last 30 years.
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Did we ask anyone if they wanted this?
White privilege has always been utter nonsense; the UK does not have a caste system, nor do other western democracies. We are not tribal in that sense.
But some are and we don’t really have a defence.
We'll have to become more so. You can't beat a group strategy with an individual one
@@BuffaloSoldier1965. 20 out of the 55 UK prime ministers come from 1 university. And you claim UK doesn’t have a caste system. Ha ha
@@gopi0905 so 35 out of 55 didn't. Thanks for making my point. Worth adding, no one is born into a university. With the caste system there is only what you are born into.
@@BuffaloSoldier1965. No other country has such high number. If you fail to diagnose right you will never find a remedy. Keeping calling yourself great doesn’t make you great.
I spent many years raising children not following politics. I suppose I assumed there were people looking out for our society at that level.
I suddenly realise I’m not in the country I thought I was and it’s been a huge blow. No less than a living nightmare.
It is so good to hear two British people of immigrant heritage recognising that race is not a significant issue in British society. Class has always been our vice. The people at the bottom of society now are the native British whose ancestors have been at the bottom of the social pile for 1,000 years. Those with disposable income and a privileged educational background much prefer to give charitably to causes that help animals, ethnic minorities here or poor communities overseas. Just look at Winchester college, which turned down a bequest to help white working class boys study there.
Ur first and last sentence are contradictionary
@@analogeit Might help if you could learn to spell. And no those two sentences are not contradictory. I'm sure Winchester College would have granted bursaries had they been asked to for so called ethnic minority students.
Humans have an inborn bias towards familiarity and origin. In Somalia people of diffrent tribes hate each other and see each other as non-related. This is within groups with the same ethnicity. Now, do multiracial "society". People will segregate along lines of familiarity.
It's clans, not tribes.
What you have to say is irrelevant. YOU do not know Trevor. When you live next to Romanians, Serbians, Russians, Ukrainians, Albanians etc who speak NO ENGLISH and see the horrific impact on communities only then would I ever listen to you or enter into any sort of discourse on the matter. YOU KNOW NOTHING as most toffs on this matter and therefore fall in to the category of "mouth breather".
He paints a very depressing version of the UK and its future.
He does. It's bad for us native people because we are being usurped and displaced. It may be better to get out because the real élite have set this country on a trajectory of decline. There are better opportunities elsewhere
Giving poor people free things does not teach poor people how to get out of being poor. It teaches them to keep doing what they are doing as someone else will look after them. Sickening abuse.
The problems we have doesn't come to race. The problems we have are about culture!
Keep telling yourself that until you're the last Englishman in England
@@indi_primethings change nothing last forever mate
@@indi_prime Can you clarify, not sure I understand what you mean? Thanks
@@MiddleAgedBritculture is downstream of race. Culture is the shared perception of the behaviour of s collective. X people create X culture
@@LondonMoneyCashEnterprise yeah, true, the Palestinians used to have a homeland called Palestinia. Now look at them, nothing lasts forever, eh?
Phillips is a highly intelligent and thoughtful man. But he has completely missed the point.
Simple demographics will mean eventually whites will be in a minority.
This was our country, quite capable of assimilating foreigners of whatever colour or creed as long as they integrated. That It will not continue to be is entirely down to multiculturalism, an approach foisted on us to soften the impact of an immigration policy, started by Blair and his goons, which has resulted in the ghettoising of towns and cities.
The white working classes were the backbone of the country. They have been utterly betrayed by these policies. The die is cast - that will be England gone.
Who decided we wanted this in Britain.
The Far Left (out of hatred) - and robber capitalism (out of greed).
A nightmare coalition.
Tony Blaire, Alistair Cambell & Gordon Brown. They decided that they wanted to rub the 'right's' nose in diversity and introduced positive discrimination against white people in the UK. Turns out that the 'right' according to them was just normal people who'd lived here all their lives. They sold us down the river and Starmer and Reeves will do the same. Imagine how it would be if if it was vice versa. If Vietnam or Nigeria was suddenly and forcefully flooded with ethnically different people. These same idiots in the ranks of our government would likely be up in arms displaying some more fake virtue.
@@offshoretomorrow3346alongside mi5
Not sure what Trevor is going to a university for... I tell you what it is Chinese parents are doing
1. Staying together.
2. Making the kids work after school.
3. Setting strict goals and boundaries for their kids.
4. 喝点热水.
@stonecoldjaneausten926 He knows what they are doing. He wants credible published proof that he can use to convince others rather than just anecdotal observations.
And higher IQ on average.However, Trevor does not belive in biological differences…
@@stonecoldjaneausten926 their children tend to be socially inept and miserable lol
And the same for Indian parents.
????? He literally pilloried Nigel Farage for making the same argument
"We get the best". who is he kidding?
We don't. We get people who don't care to assimilate. He even plugs the idea that natives have to accept the ways of alien cultures. This is insulting at best, but basically hostile alien occupation
We give them the best jobs to the detriment of local people, maybe.
Bizarrely out of touch. Has he left London in that last 20 years?
Nobody says Tokyo would be better if it were 60% Branch Davidians from Waco or Mormons from Utah.....Nobody says what Lagos really needs is to be majority Georgian and Checchnian
Very interesting conversation. But the words assimilation and integration seemed to be used as if they meant the same thing. My great grandparents were Russian Jewish immigrants with no money and no English. Just a trade (tailoring). They dressed oddly, ate strange food and spoke funny 😊. They stayed inside their tight community and rarely ventured out of it. BUT their children and grandchildren assimilated - ie they spoke fluent English, went to the pub, supported the local football teams, dressed and conducted themselves in a British way. They kept their religion, and didn't expect special treatment in any way. They bent to fit in, because they accepted that they were no longer in the 'old country'. The problem now, apart from the scale of immigration, is that some incomers are deeply set against assimilation. Their values cannot be accommodated, which makes them hostile, or appear hostile, and angers the 'hosts'. What's the solution to this? I wish I knew.
To think we went past peak oil in 2005 to 2018, and now every year we will have less on an island with over 60 million people, that requires importing food.
There is a very bleak future for this island in the very near future.
60 million?! How about closer to 100 million people on this tiny island. In 2008 an Independent ( The paper) reported that our population was over 80million. He even acknowledged how uncomfortable he was publishing the story, for fear it would be responded by "the far right".
Supermarkets know exactly how many mouths In the UK the are being fed, and the true number is devastating.
Inwards migration at scale allows business to ignore the necessity of improving technology / automation / training as they can have cheap labour.
The black death was one of the causal factors that ended serfdom due to the rapid increase in the bargaining power of labour. No longer were peasants tied to the land as the land owner next door offered a better deal. A decreasing birthrate, absent mass migration, would have forced employers to offer better terms and education to be seen as a long term investment, instead its used to justify ethnocide and import people who openly cheer it on.
Correct. Restricted worker pool forced innovations in machinery, which led to the industrial revolution.
And ironically AI and robotics are coming anyway, so we've imported a soon to be useless hostile underclass.
That's what this mass inward migration is all about. Remember the real élite in the UK are William the Conqueror's mates. They only think in the context of "bring in more serfs". The UK needs to become an Emigration nation. About 50 million people need to cash in up sticks and leave Billy's mates to it!
Great interview and discussion. As a first generation child of Nigerian British immigrant. I find your comment about Kemi Badenoch both patronizing and amusing at the same time, Quote" the most important thing to understand about Kemi is that she is Nigerian". I don't think that is the most important thing about her......and I don't mean that in a combative way.
She's a better example of enlightenment Britishness than any native politician that springs to my mind.
@@offshoretomorrow3346 She was born in London, she is native.
@@sexyhomeowner9345That’s not ‘native’. She’s British and born here. I like her, although disagreed with her on the Covid BS.
Yes very patronising. Trevor a progressive liberal elite. They always see colour. They can’t help themselves.
Tories be like:
'Our leader should be the African Olukemi Olufunto Adegoke Badenoch.'
When some immigrants come here they bring there own culture they don’t want to Integrate. The English/ British are expected to except it and make the change. Well no if that’s the way people want to live why didn’t they stay in there own country.
Not their own culture but often their own troubles too
Doesn't matter, it's happening
My neighbours are Hungarian 1 side, Portuguese the other.
Ten years here apiece, I don't know their names or anything about them other than the nationalities.
Yeh, mass immigration. Wow
Have you reached out to them? Hungarians and Portugues rock!
@AnAn___ no my arms aren't long enough.
@@eltonwelsby787 :LOL:
@@eltonwelsby787 😂😂😂
@arubuolaebenezer9986 this is your fault
The scale and speed of change is disconcerting. We need to have public policy that articulates and defines what is expected of someone living in the UK - social values and responsibilities.
We are subjects, not citizens.
People coming to the UK need to understand our national values, heritage and alliances and where their taxes are going to be spent.
Define the laws and social values that must be followed by all those living in the UK.
It's very rarely mentioned that immigration by people from poorer communities results in the UK becoming a remittance economy where wealth earned in this country is sent abroad.
What a clown. I've taught Chinese students for decades and many have told me they were violently beaten by their parents for getting anything less than top scores in schools. I'm not talking about being spanked in a controlled manner (still unnacceptable). They were punched in the face, knocked to the ground and then kicked while on the floor by their own parents when they were still in primary school. To say traumatising children is okay because they get good jobs in the future is disgusting and the idea that we should be learning from that aspect of Chinese, or any culture that accepts that behaviour, is abhorrent.
Holding kids out over a balcony is okay is it? No pushback on that at all from the presenter?
The UK has made amazing progress when it comes to protecting children and it's something we shouldn't take one step backwards on, especially not with a laugh and a smile as seen here. Protecting children is not snobbery, it's fundamental to a civilised society.
Nonsense, your average Chinese or East Asian parent in the UK isn't beating their kids. No more or less than any other ethnic group. Anecdotal tales from your @ss here my friend.
And also WHY do they invest so heavily in academic /.economic success? With minorities, it can be about impressing, or competing with white people, as though you can study and earn your way out of white supremacy.
Protecting children is one of the values that used to be normal but has become apparently right wing, or a symbol of privilege.
He said we should research it. Not copy all the negatives… do you genuinely believe that abuse is the only thing chinese families do differently?
It’s not just the Chinese, it’s the Koreans as well. I had a Korean friend at primary school. I went to visit him in his house. His mum asked me to wait as he was finishing his maths homework. As she was supervising him, if he got an answer wrong, she hit him on his head and berated him. I was so shocked. I think we were 6 or 7 at the time. I won’t ever forget that memory.
Now they're starting to use terms like "white-adjacent".
apartheid
Now??? You're late babe. That's how we can tell you don't read at all.
The problem is England will have less and less English people in it. Then is it England anymore
Good question. The fact is not just England but most of the world is currently in a churn. Is it for the good or bad? That’s a million dollar question.
The problem is any discussion of immigration is reduced to race by activists and grifters rather than a debate over cultures including white immigrants from Europe.
What you both seem to ignore is the white indigenous peoples feelings around this. I don’t believe diversity works.
Really interesting. We have Ukrainian refugees staying with us, and Trevor is spot on re the lack of integration opportunities. The child has integrated easily via school. She was speaking English with a Yorkshire accent within months and jumps seamlessly between English fairy stories and Ukrainian folklore. The mum has worked in a cafe and is picking up English easily. She's constantly discussing affectionately the cultural differences between here and home. Igor, the dad, is a builder. He works for an Eastern European guy who employs mostly Eastern Europeans. They all speak either Russian, Hungarian or Polish. Our guest hasn't bothered with learning English. His boss replicates the working conditions he has at home, long hours, weekend working etc. He's the least settled in the country.
Cindy laughs nervously when Trevor brings up the genome, knowing perfectly well intelligence is eminently heritable within and between population groups.
Mr Philips talks about the issue of a formerly dominant group losing 'control' and reacting. He doesn't address the issue of what happens when the native population suddenly finds itself as the minority. Especially in areas of what might be termed white ethnic minorites - places like Cornwall, Wales, Scotland and Ireland. As an example, look what happened in Fiji a few years ago. Furthermore, his assertion that migrants are motivated to change the system is one that applies only where there is no interest in preserving local cultures. I am an immigrant in an Asian country; the idea that culture would or should be allowed to change to be more accommodating to immigrants is, frankly, laughable. People would be told to accept it or leave. Only in Europe and the US are such ideas taken seriously.
Finally, there is a certain irony about a discussion in which concerns about immigration are discussed, along with white privilege, and how it is positive, which is hosted by two members of immigrant communities.
@@dragonade85 so only white brits should discuss such matters? Isn’t the very problem quite the opposite! Open dialogue will be needed from all involved
@@Ditch_Head I did not say that. My point was that there was no input from the native population. To turn your point around, is it surprising that a panel that comprises solely of representatives of immigrant communities should think immigration and the concomitant change is a good thing? By excluding any input from white British you are automatically excluding an open dialogue.
Trevor Phillips talks in circles.
Like most political elites, completely out of touch
How do we attract attention, if we can't throw bricks. (Not that I need to.)
Some come here and want to drastically change our culture, and our recent governments are helpless to correct it.
The government if you can call them that want this division and conflict. They use hostile foreigners to try and control us
I was a Canadian immigrant to France, and the one thing I noticed above all was that in France, you absolutely had to have a modicum of culture in order to be taken seriously.
The result is that in order to make good, one needed to RISE to a certain level; And the level of education and culture in France has remained relatively high, even if it is lower than 50 years ago... as it is elsewhere!
In North America the idea was (from a sense of equality) to make everything available to even those at the lowest level... so everything (especially education levels) were brought down so that even the lowest of the low could participate.
The result is that a French high-school student was WAY ahead of the average North American one.
And I suspect that to an extent tthe French are generally ahead of the average Brit too.
.When I see teh average Brit, tehy are STAUNCHLY middle or working class, and proud of it.
In fact even when someone form a working class background moves up teh ladder, when asked tehy still consider themselves working class.
As such there is a tendency to accept one's lot and not aim too high; After all, if one coes across as too posh one might lose one's mats, right?
And then along come the Indians/Palistanis with one of the strongest work ethics you can imagine. And they flourish.
No job is too low as long as it helps them get ahead as they move up the ladder. Class is not a problem for them; what they become is far more important.
I remember the film My Beautiful Launderette from 1958 by Stephen Frears. A Pakistani young man gets help from an uncle in setting up a Launderette, and he hires a working class buddy from years ago to work it with him. One scene mirrors exactly Trevor Phillips ' words when the Pakistani says " We are taking over while you working class whites will still be sitting there on the dole creating problems for everyone. You'll be working for us soon! " And so it is. The film was absolutely prophetic.
The class system in Britain is so ingrained that if you are a working class guy (think of the film God's Own Country, a film taking place in a Yorkshire farming community) , nobody seems to dream big there. They accept their station in life, and look down on the brown-skinned immigrants as inferior only because they need SOMEONE to feel superior to.
The working class in Britain is going to have a major problem with all this.
But if the rest of British society can stop looking backward and see that life for everyone in general is still reasonably good, then the success of the Pakistani/Indian immigrants will become a boon for everyone in the long term.
It has been stated on many occasoins that the most successful communities in the world are theChinese and the Jewish. Both have excelled everywhere they go - for centuries.
A British rabbi once pointed out that both communities withstood millenia of problems and disasters and are sTILL going strong.
He said that their separate attitudes towards disaster was somehow linked, because BOTH groups had two meanings for the word.
The first meaning was the same as for everyone... some terrible cataclysm which destroys.
But both the Chinese and the Jews had a second meaning in their langauges.
To the Chinese "disaster" was also understood to mean: an opportunity!
And the Jewish word for disaster also meant: a birthing stool... from whence comes new life... in short, also an opportunity for the future.
BOTH culture s excelled by having an especially strong sense of the need for education... and with that they opened up the doors to opportunity.
How many of the Working class Brits are brought up with the idea of educating themselves as much as possible, even if only a "lowly" farmer or labourer?
I suspect the answer to that explains everything.
The biggest scandal that noone is talking about is how many swans acroas the country were killed for food by those immigrants?
@@milo2324 😂😂 They eating the cats !!!!
These two people are so irritatingly smug. Trevor Phillips seems cheerful at the prospect of Britain's indigenous white population making up only half of the population of the UK by 2040 or so, something that makes me feel very sad. He seems to enjoy the idea of white people becoming the employees of those who currently make up ethnic minorities in the not too distant future. This is where DEI got us Brits - poor Britain!
Re British politics being too nice and polite and not combative enough, it is far easier for a black person to be combative about these issues than a white person in our society. Look at Amy Wax, interviewed in this magazine a couple of weeks ago. Trevor, I hope you are supporting her as she is concerned with similar issues to those discussed above, although people are outraged that she has the audacity to speak of them, being white.
Because Wax is a white supremacist
Maybe he is racist against the white men and women who made the a good country
9:19 I think he's in for a shock if he looks at the data regarding businesses. Bing is telling me that 89.9 percent of entrepreneurs are white. Further research tells me that British Business Bank seem to be quite concerned with the gap between White Entrepreneurs success compared to that of other ethnicities.
People from India have for generations emigrated to countries all over the world. In every country to which they immigrated, Indians eventually faired better economically than the indigenous population. This inevitably lead to envy and resentment by the locals in their host countries. That resentment in turn generally lead to Indians being expelled by force and intimidation from the countries to which they had immigrated.
When those Indians left, the economies of the host countries then invariably experienced a precipitous collapse despite the fact that the Indians left the infrastructure they had built behind and were generally forced to abandon their financial capital as well. It turns out that it was the human capital that Indians brought to these societies which was the source of the unprecedented prosperity these countries experienced so long as the Indians were present. Once they were absent, none of these countries managed to indigenously regenerate that prosperity ex nihilo.
If one were going to predict how the Anglo Saxon population of Britain will react when they likewise find themselves occupying a socioeconomically inferior status to Indian immigrants and their descendants, one would expect that the indigenous population will likewise resent them and decline to attribute Indian socioeconomic success to an inherent human capital that is the product of the culture of Indian immigrants. If the Anglo Saxons then respond as other indigenous populations have, they too will belatedly discover that depriving Indians of their property and status will not in fact restore the indigenous Brits to prosperity or opportunity.
The politics of envy are invariably counterproductive and, rather than resenting a people for their success, one would be better served by emulating the cultural values that actually accounted for that success. Whether that involves immigrants emulating the more successful values of the host country or the indigenous emulating the values of the more successful immigrants, adopting the behaviors of the successful yields the optimal result.
As Deng Xiaoping astutely observed, “It doesn’t matter whether the cat is black or white, the cat that catches the mouse is best.”
Couldn't agree with you more. Would add Chinese, Jews, Igbo Nigerians, Iranians, Yuroba christian Nigerians and others to Indians.
The UK use to have a similar per capita income as the USA. Next year the UK is likely to have 60% US per capita income, or a lower per capita income than South Korea, African Americans and the USA's poorest state, Mississippi. At her current trajectory the UK's per capita GDP in my view will fall to less than half US levels; and to a lower per capita income than Malaysia, Greece, Guyana, Panama, Bahamas, Portugal, Aruba, Trinidad & Tobago.
The UK suffers from massive brain drain as the graduates of the UK's Russell Group universities (24 elite UK universities) and millionaire class rapidly leave the UK. The UK is likely to have about 600 K emigrants leave the UK next year. Over the past decade the number of nominal US dollar millionaires declined by 8% as the number of nominal US dollar millionaires inside the USA increased by 63% over the past decade.
Structurally and organically this UK economic deterioration is worse than it appears from the outside. It is masked by talented migrants who are keeping the UK afloat. Currently, 67 out of the UK's 146 billionaires are migrants (immigrants.) Soon it is probable that the large majority of british billionaires, millionaires, elites and top academic performers will be migrants, children of migrants, grandchildren of migrants or ethnics. Anglo saxon ethnic english are in danger of becoming an indigent underclass in their own country subsidized by migrants and ethnics similar to how the Bumiputera are subsidized in Malaysia.
Its criminal that this perceptive deep comment doesn't have more likes.
We want no multiculturalism. What's so hard to understand.
@@redpapuangoblinredpapuango2755 with respect. It's a little late for that. Lol.
The great replacement is not a conspiracy theory
@docca123 In Britain, the US and France it is... but in other parts of Europe it isn't as these three countries are the reason much of the world is in the predicament it is... they are responsible for 87% of the world's problems and then they complain when the world comes to them after they've wrecked the world whether directly or indirectly... all of Europe is crying because of Britain but being the self-centered nation you are.... you couldn't care less about them but instead it's always about you... how about you people protest your foreign policy and reform it instead of blaming the world for your self-inflicted wounds
An interesting analysis by Philips here and I agree with many of his points. The overarching one though for me is that mass immigration and multicultrualism isn't / wasn't inevitable at all. If policiticans had listened to the British people we would probably still be 99% homogenous. From the 60's onwards there has been a deliberate action to subvert democracy , go against the people's wishes and introduce these things to our country. This to me is akin to war crimes. What bigger crime is there than changing a countries cultural foundations without the people's consent? Even during the hard times of the 1970's, at least you had the country generally on the same wavelength culturally. Look at the state we're in now, this country is now pulling in different directions and doesn't know where it's going or what to celebrate about itself. The last 60 years has been a disaster and is killing this country. The way Philips and this lady are chatting away in such a light hearted way is disgusting. The best thing we can do is to halt all immigration for a generation. Yes of course you can learn from other cultures but that doesn't mean you want to change your country into another one. We are now becoming a total mess. A melting pot is in no way a good thing.
Immigration will continue.
Not mixing, Many Brits do the same when they live in Spain
Inane comparison. Must try harder.
British never integrate wherever they go in the world. The host country is always expected to accommodate the British. Most British people don't even speak a second language
Not mixing isn’t an issue. It’s crime.
there are so many self contradictory arguments in this persons responses, that i feel his arguments are simply NOT work. He argues for multi-culturalism, yet his statements prove that multi-culturalism has not and will not work.
One cannot expect coherence and logic from one of the most censored subject in the history of universe. He can say whatever without fear of being contradicted.
Stop social benefits for all entering illegally
And benefits for multiple wives
No free medical care
……things would change over night
Having sir in-front of a name doesn’t make you any smarter ….. sorry
That would barely affect anyone
actually it wouldn't
Illegals are not entitled to benefits! They have no recourse to public funds
29:42 bollocks, it is We natives who aren't celebrated, even Khan in London simps for India with festivals etc.
Don't use Blk slang
There is a lot of growing resentment and backlash in England at the success of market dominant ethnics such as Jews, Chinese, Indians.
The UK use to have a similar per capita income as the USA. Next year the UK is likely to have 60% US per capita income, or a lower per capita income than South Korea, African Americans and the USA's poorest state, Mississippi. At her current trajectory the UK's per capita GDP in my view will fall to less than half US levels; and to a lower per capita income than Malaysia, Greece, Guyana, Panama, Bahamas, Portugal, Aruba, Trinidad & Tobago.
The UK suffers from massive brain drain as the graduates of the UK's Russell Group universities (24 elite UK universities) and millionaire class rapidly leave the UK. The UK is likely to have about 600 K emigrants leave the UK next year. Over the past decade the number of nominal US dollar millionaires declined by 8% as the number of nominal US dollar millionaires inside the USA increased by 63% over the past decade.
Structurally and organically this UK economic deterioration is worse than it appears from the outside. It is masked by talented migrants who are keeping the UK afloat. Currently, 67 out of the UK's 146 billionaires are migrants (immigrants.) Soon it is probable that the large majority of british billionaires, millionaires, elites and top academic performers will be migrants, children of migrants, grandchildren of migrants or ethnics. Anglo saxon ethnic english are in danger of becoming an indigent underclass in their own country subsidized by migrants and ethnics similar to how the Bumiputera are subsidized in Malaysia.
@@AnAn___ Good.
@@AnAn___ You forgot the Africans.
@@jasonhaven7170 100%. I would add Igbos, Yurobas and other Africans. Not just in the UK but in the global diaspora.
Is this really new to anyone? How out of touch are the politicians if they haven't known this for at least two decades? Also, how naïve were they not to have *_predicted_* it?
32:58 i saw this coming, it would make the blacks look bad. But then Trevor went on to do the Blank Slate fallacy, intellectual abilities are inherited at a rate of 0.7-0.8.
It's great to break it down and 'separate the good from the bad', but the big stonking lie at the heart of all this is that the UK's population is actually closer to 90 million people, not 70.
Misinformation... the only European countries close to 90 million people are Germany 🇩🇪 and Turkey 🇹🇷 both of which are larger than the UK... Russia 🇷🇺 🪆 is the only European country with over 100 million people... I believe it will be 150 million by 2030 so who ever told you that is not only a liar but an idiot
Trevor Phillips was suspended from the Labour Party for his Islamophobic remarks, and he recently attempted to divert attention by pointing out that there are communities in the UK with residents from Brazil and Zimbabwe who don’t interact much with outsiders. This can be seen as an attempt to justify his earlier comments about "nations within nations," using Brazil and Zimbabwe as a shield.
Moreover, Phillips promotes the misleading notion that Indian and Chinese immigrants outperform other immigrant groups. Let’s unpack that: India has a population greater than that of the entire continent of Africa, and China’s population surpasses that of multiple continents. Comparing these populous nations to smaller countries like Pakistan and Somalia is fundamentally flawed and oversimplified.
He often references his background and the success of his family, but it raises the question: how successful is he, really? His current role seems to involve seeking opportunities with Sky News, suggesting that he is desperate for employment.
Additionally, from my experience, most Pakistani individuals I have encountered in the UK do not live in poverty; they are hardworking and contribute to society. As for the Somalis, it’s worth noting that many arrived as refugees and have established themselves successfully in various businesses across the UK. A quick search would reveal this.
Ultimately, it seems that Phillips frequently undermines Muslim communities, driven by his own biases.
Lucky ones? It’s their home. It’s the home of their ancestors.
Trevor highlights the ambitious culture of both the Indian and Chinese communities in this country and agrees that middle class white families have the same mindset.
He also points out that the migrants tend to be more driven and resourceful than the average working class people they leave behind them.
If that is true, migrants have a distinct advantage when competing against the average working class person over here.
You can't blame disadvantaged white people for their lack of success, when not only are they competing with home grown middle class privilege but also with a highly motivated influx of migrants too. It's not a level playing field.
Of course, culture has a great deal to do with success. The Chinese and Indian diaspora are successful everywhere, in financial terms, but not socially.
I have yet to travel anywhere in Asia and Africa where they are loved.
How are Chinese and Indians not successful socially? Would you say the same about Jews, Igbo Nigerians, Christian Yuroba Nigerians, Iranians, Russians?
Race isn't the biggest divider.. religion is.
Islamic creep. We should learn from Lebanon
One cant help wondering why a race invents a particular religion all the same....
To even raise the topic of "white supremacism" slants the bias of the debate. The summer "riots" were not about that, at all. Quite ridiculous. And for that reason, I'm out @10:54
Here we are not talking about to immigrant a large number of people to a big vast empty land without local people. Multiculturalism takes the local nation and culture as one of the parts. So rapidly forcing the local and local culture to accept the alien ones without asking the locals are willing or not, this is not fair.
I remember when PM Margaret Thatcher said "there's no such thing as society". This was after the ten Irishmen died on hunger strike in prison. As an Irish person, to whom community was all-encompassing and even stifling at times for a young person, I thought it was odd thing to say, like the old joke: 'one fish says to the other "how's the water?, and the other fish answers "what the hell is water?"' However, later in the 1990s I was living in London, and the absence of a sense of community spirit among the people was noticeable (can't speak for the rest of England)
In a Country with various Labour shortages (NHS, care sector, agriculture… etc…), what did you think would happen when you voted for Brexit, to keep forinnners out?
Sajid Javid (& Rishi) supported Brexit explicitly because the EU ‘discriminates’ against ‘people like them’. The plan was always to replace people from Poland, Bulgaria etc. with people from the Commonwealth - mostly Indians and Nigerians of course.
I don’t understand why so many are angry.
Its one of the many ironies of the Brexit fiasco that people voted for it specifically to stop immigration. They were well conned. Incomers changed from single young Europeans to African & Asian extended families. Nice one Gove/Johnson/Farage.
There is truth to this. Aren't talented migrants a good thing?
The UK use to have a similar per capita income as the USA. Next year the UK is likely to have 60% US per capita income, or a lower per capita income than South Korea, African Americans and the USA's poorest state, Mississippi. At her current trajectory the UK's per capita GDP in my view will fall to less than half US levels; and to a lower per capita income than Malaysia, Greece, Guyana, Panama, Bahamas, Portugal, Aruba, Trinidad & Tobago.
The UK suffers from massive brain drain as the graduates of the UK's Russell Group universities (24 elite UK universities) and millionaire class rapidly leave the UK. The UK is likely to have about 600 K emigrants leave the UK next year. Over the past decade the number of nominal US dollar millionaires declined by 8% as the number of nominal US dollar millionaires inside the USA increased by 63% over the past decade.
Structurally and organically this UK economic deterioration is worse than it appears from the outside. It is masked by talented migrants who are keeping the UK afloat. Currently, 67 out of the UK's 146 billionaires are migrants (immigrants.) Soon it is probable that the large majority of british billionaires, millionaires, elites and top academic performers will be migrants, children of migrants, grandchildren of migrants or ethnics. Anglo saxon ethnic english are in danger of becoming an indigent underclass in their own country subsidized by migrants and ethnics similar to how the Bumiputera are subsidized in Malaysia.
the reason diversity and multiculturalism worked in the recent past was because the immigrants coming into the country were from countries sharing beliefs and similar traditions and respected differences while bringing their in where it didnt clash with native British traditions but this has changed and now more cultures are clashing as they compete for space, a lot of the time these clashes are imported from foreign clashes which play out on our soil as we let in all these people without thinking about the consequences if these cultures clashed elsewhere, see Indian/Pakistan cultural clashes or Israeli/Palestinian clashes.
Britain for the British. Ethnically British.
No, we have to keep Cindy!
Britons are a cocktail of Celts, Vikings, Romans, Normans, and Anglo-Saxons i.e. if you're white British, you're most likely an ethnic mix.
@@SuperiorMoon you're living with a 1950s mindset mate, world's changed
There is no such a thing as ethnically British. It's an assumption some people make
@@WythenshawePhilCindy has moved on man. Let her go.
Trevor has good points - but his generalization are biased by his own success. Illegal immigration is a definite security threat with so many young men in the cohort. Islamic sectarianism is another threat to social cohesion. However, we have a problem with seeing white people as victims - that is a woke analysis which we despise. The March on Saturday showed we can be British and proud. Let’s help white working class people pull themselves up by their bootstraps and engage on the possibilities that are in our great nation. Our education system needs Katherine Burblsingh to start the restoration of our youth and parents need to engage! 27:23
"I support the ethnocide, but I [pretend to] understand why you don't"
You feel unmoored from your local communities and like a stranger in a strange land and you blame immigration but what you really describe is globalisation. It is not black and asian people who have made your towns feel hollowed out and decrepit (in many cases they are the only communities keeping business going). Our relationship with America, our reliance on foreign capital, our lack of investment in the social structures that keep a society running so it can be productive, these are what has brought the UK into a spiral of decline. You want something to explain why you no longer talk to your neighbours, maybe its roots can be traced back to a pernicious little woman in the 1980s told you to embrace free market capitalism and get climbing that yuppie ladder because there’s no such thing as society.
@@RaveyDavey it means community centres, youth centres, healthcare (on its arse), education (school roofs falling in and too many kids per classroom) it means good quality affordable social housing, it means funding to revive dead towns, dilapidated seaside resorts, areas on the outskirts of bustling “world” cities like Liverpool and Manchester that are still massively deprived, it means creating social cohesion rather than kicking the can down the road and blaming immigrants every time we ask the question “what the fuck went wrong” ….. it means fixing our water supply, nationalising our railways, providing better social care, doing things which COST MONEY but have the long-term effect of PRODUCTIVE people and an ACTIVE economy rather than this stagnant, depressed spiral where the average house costs 8 times the average salary and nothing works anyway and then the Murdoch press and a succession of previous governments say “Johnny Foreigner took your cookie”.
I would not want yo emigrate and then expect that country to change, our homeland has been given away, this is treasonous, I'd like to have a melting pot here and there - but not this level and having our history re written so that others feel comfortable - I am not comfortable
Didn’t Australia and America change to accommodate immigrants? I do agree that in the modern age people should attempt to integrate if they move to another country however people seem to forget other examples where this not the case. Also I think failure to integrate is a catch all term applied to everyone.
@@shanghaichicaexactly and legal migrants have to do a life in the UK test and speak English. So there is integration.