this is a very well made video. everything you need to know is here! the oem sound, a diy walkthrough, and the finished product with revs and take offs. i want to do this very soon.
Another way is to cut some pipe lengths in half, cover sleeve the perforated sections and weld/screw clamp in place. Saves a lot of time and less risk of messing up a cut or weld. +Only have to cut the top casing open , making the mod invisible to police or TUV/MOT/ other regulation inspectors from underneath the car.
Just did my M3 and it sounds amazing ,really good helpful video . I took a short cut by instead of cutting the two pipes with the less perforated wholes I tag welded the holes that way i only cut the two pipes with more holes on them and it worked great it did save me some time.
Any change to a stock exhaust system will alter it from factory specs. No back pressure is lost because the back pressure is created in the bends of the pipe. If you watched the video, the bends are in tact. Why would an aftermarket exhaust manufacturer create a similar exhaust to the one in the video if it robbed back pressure and was harmful to the performance? They wouldn't. I highly recommend this modification to any BMW enthusiast.
cheers to the diy project. if you're happy and it feels good, then who cares what others think. also, saw your response to comments...big ups for keeping cool, collected, and direct responses. people can be outright rude, and typically are assholes.
couldnt agree more. well the welds looked like shit, but it worked and he got what he wanted, for free, except his own time put down to it and are happy about it. congrats honda1rca.
Sounds great, but I don't know if I would want to live with my e92 being that loud all the time. Too bad BMW didn't make a bimodal exhaust with the modded sound and the OEM sound. Car looks great too. What size tires are you running? Just replaced the Pzeros on mine with michelin super sports, 255 fronts, 275 rears. Can't believe what a difference. feels like a whole new car., and no more road noise.
Michelin Super Sports are where it's at brother! Incredible tires, IMO the best money can buy. In terms of a summer street tire that can stand up to a day or two at the track, nothing else really compares. I run Michelins on all my cars! Try the Cup 2 if you really want an eye popper!
probably easier to do a muffler delete since thats what you ended up doing, that way you keep your stock muffler so if you want to sell the car you can put it back to stock
+luigi90210 if you just pulled the exhaust off completely it would not run correctly and would not sound as good. Anyone that is buying this car will more than likely want the modified exhaust anyway.
+honda1rca if you're doing what he did which was remove the muffler part of the muffler and weld in straight pipes in place of the pipes with baffles, you're basically doing the same thing except it looks like you have a muffler. it's a lot cheaper and easier for you at that point to just delete the mufflers all together and it will flow better than looping it around inside what was your muffler.
This job is a mess. No need to cut the pipes inside. Wrap the perforated sections with aluminium exhaust wrap. Followed by cloth exhaust wrap. Then add some stainless steel jubilee clips to hold it all in place. Also doing it this way, you will not have to cut both sides of the muffler. The outer case of the muffler should only be welded with stainless steel mig weld, because the muffler is made of stainless steel. No paint necessary. It will not rust. You don't have to cover all of the perforated sections. Leave about 25% uncovered or it will sound way too loud.
super work really!! I intend to have it done by a professional for my M3 in France, but i have a question: is there a risk for anything, for the engine or the performance of the engine, the collector etc ... as the data of the manufacturer are changed? I'm not a mechanic that's the reason for my question thank you very much
do the outer cans effect sound or is this essentially a straight pipe now? id be more interested to hear it with the resonated tube left in and a proper weld.
Nice work - I have been doing some research on this mod, and most just cut out two of the 4 pipes. I see you did all 4. Does this make it significantly louder?
Jason Bedford Yeah, I noticed there are a couple different ways to do this mod. Since all 4 pipes have holes in them I figured we might as well cut them all out and replace all 4 while we had the exhaust opened up. It turned out great but not sure if it made it significantly louder since I couldn't really compare.
I hate check engine lights and thankfully never had one come on so no it shouldn’t throw any codes. I also never had a dyno test done before or after so I’m not sure on bhp but it sure felt faster!
mcp07335i thanks man, yes it’s a lot of work but it’s worth it. If u do a muffler delete it’s going to sound like ur driving around with no muffler.... And you will have zero back pressure which would throw on a check engine light.
@@AudiR8-RCA cool thanks man for getting back to me. I was thinking of getting a e92 m3 or lexus is f. I sold my pos 335i and bmw left a bad taste in my mouth haha but m3s sound badass and cheaper now
mcp07335i yeah I feel ya I had a 335 before I got the M3 and had issues with it. I like the e92 since it’s naturally aspirated u don’t have to worry about turbos going out but some of them have rod bearings issues. If ur in the market I actually just listed mine for sale. I’ve had it wrapped in charcoal matte metallic since I made the video. Here is a link: facebook.com/marketplace/item/2066801843449649/
@@AudiR8-RCA dam ur car is super clean. But im poor i was looking at higher mileage ones for around 20 and 22k haha and theres a place that does the bearings for 2350 mrf engineering. So i was going to do that. What are u trying to get once u sell urs. F80 M car?
mcp07335i dang that’s not bad at all, I’ll have to keep that place in mind if I keep the car and ever need to change the bearings. But yeah I have been looking around and my plan would be to upgrade to the M4 once I sell mine
Thanks, they are Lux Angel Eyes and the color is adjustable between white and blue. I have them kind of in the middle more towards the white hue. www.luxangeleyes.com/
+greekboydeluxe I've been running theses headlights for almost 2 years and I haven't had a single issue with them. No dash lights or bulbs burning out, etc.
Jonathan Lei we spot welded them together in several spots then spot welded them in several spots to the rest of the casing after closing the two flaps. So tack them together in a few spots then fold them back down and tack the two covers already tacked together to the rest of the housing where it is cut. After it's tacked all the way around you can weld the seams. If you dont do all the spot welds in the correct order, you will risk the sheet metal shrinking and warping when you go to weld the seams again.
+Stefano Conterio I don't believe the fiberglass is a requirement to go back in before you weld it back together but I put it in just to be safe. My reasoning was there could be a chance for a "pingy" sound if we left it out.
I thought it might keep something from rattling around if a small scrap piece of metal was floating around in there but honestly I have no idea, which is why we decided to put it back in.
+Robert Nilsson It may not be pretty but you would call it a work of art also if you do this mod yourself. It's only a 6 min. video but you will have some time involved before you get it back on the car!
You don't need to cut off both sides of the backbox, just the top. The pipes you weld in do not need to be airtight! The ones before defo were not! Just weld what you can see. A bit of exhaust escaping is no different to what the original exhaust was doing ;). Good vid tho
Yeah I don't think it needs to be air tight but I wanted it as solid as possible for maximum results. Probably doesn't sound much different doing it ur way tho and is a huge time saver as well. Good work.
+Rafik Jabbour this may be true but if it is I don't think it's enough to make a difference. I've had this mod done for over a year and not a single check engine light or any performance issues. If you are cutting off the exhaust entirely that might make a difference. Also, we did not cut off the cats, they are still on the car and the air still flows thru all the natural bends throughout the exhaust designed by BMW.
You won't notice the difference until you race another car and find out that you're losing a car length at high speed. Not major difference but if you're a performance freak you should know that. Sounds awesome nevertheless. Check my setup, it's in one of my videos. Not the best in terms of performance either but I went for the sound.
I respect the whole DIY. Those welds will fail at some point. those are some of the ugliest welds I've ever seen. I'm not saying that I could weld better than that. I would rather pay someone to save the cost that is going to rear it's ugly head at some point.
I seriously doubt those welds will fail b/c there isn't any stress on those weld points whatsoever. The welds only need to support the weight of the piping itself which is only a few ounces. In terms of it being ugly who really cares because once you button it up you can't even see them. Let's say worst case scenario even if they somehow did fail the only thing that would happen is air would leak out into the exhaust canister which is how it was designed in the first place. In my opinion it's hard to justify paying someone to do this mod unless you don't have access to a welder or know someone who does.
I think there would be a lot of difference. One disadvantage would be the high probability of throwing a code and having to deal w a check engine light from not having the proper back pressure. Also the sound is going to be extremely loud doing it that way.
Well you would know by the welds that he doesnt have much practice with it who cares its hidden anyways and will be good for however long he owns the car.
this is a very well made video. everything you need to know is here! the oem sound, a diy walkthrough, and the finished product with revs and take offs. i want to do this very soon.
Thanks!
Jesus, that welding...
mortlock7 some booger welds
He didn’t have the right pipe and welding wire, he welded stainless to carbon steel
Another way is to cut some pipe lengths in half, cover sleeve the perforated sections and weld/screw clamp in place. Saves a lot of time and less risk of messing up a cut or weld.
+Only have to cut the top casing open , making the mod invisible to police or TUV/MOT/ other regulation inspectors from underneath the car.
This is a great idea - probably would have been easier.
Just did my M3 and it sounds amazing ,really good helpful video . I took a short cut by instead of cutting the two pipes with the less perforated wholes I tag welded the holes that way i only cut the two pipes with more holes on them and it worked great it did save me some time.
That's a good idea, probably saved a lot of time
Any change to a stock exhaust system will alter it from factory specs. No back pressure is lost because the back pressure is created in the bends of the pipe. If you watched the video, the bends are in tact. Why would an aftermarket exhaust manufacturer create a similar exhaust to the one in the video if it robbed back pressure and was harmful to the performance? They wouldn't. I highly recommend this modification to any BMW enthusiast.
cheers to the diy project. if you're happy and it feels good, then who cares what others think. also, saw your response to comments...big ups for keeping cool, collected, and direct responses. people can be outright rude, and typically are assholes.
Thanks!!!
couldnt agree more. well the welds looked like shit, but it worked and he got what he wanted, for free, except his own time put down to it and are happy about it. congrats honda1rca.
Someone that gets it. THANKS!
sounds really nice to me
Sounds great, but I don't know if I would want to live with my e92 being that loud all the time. Too bad BMW didn't make a bimodal exhaust with the modded sound and the OEM sound. Car looks great too. What size tires are you running? Just replaced the Pzeros on mine with michelin super sports, 255 fronts, 275 rears. Can't believe what a difference. feels like a whole new car., and no more road noise.
Michelin Super Sports are where it's at brother! Incredible tires, IMO the best money can buy. In terms of a summer street tire that can stand up to a day or two at the track, nothing else really compares. I run Michelins on all my cars! Try the Cup 2 if you really want an eye popper!
great vid !, will be doing asap!
Thanks! Good luck!
probably easier to do a muffler delete since thats what you ended up doing, that way you keep your stock muffler so if you want to sell the car you can put it back to stock
+luigi90210 if you just pulled the exhaust off completely it would not run correctly and would not sound as good. Anyone that is buying this car will more than likely want the modified exhaust anyway.
+honda1rca if you're doing what he did which was remove the muffler part of the muffler and weld in straight pipes in place of the pipes with baffles, you're basically doing the same thing except it looks like you have a muffler. it's a lot cheaper and easier for you at that point to just delete the mufflers all together and it will flow better than looping it around inside what was your muffler.
What size is the pipe you used in place of the perforated stuff ? Planning to do this soon. Thanks for the good video.
This job is a mess. No need to cut the pipes inside. Wrap the perforated sections with aluminium exhaust wrap. Followed by cloth exhaust wrap. Then add some stainless steel jubilee clips to hold it all in place. Also doing it this way, you will not have to cut both sides of the muffler.
The outer case of the muffler should only be welded with stainless steel mig weld, because the muffler is made of stainless steel. No paint necessary. It will not rust.
You don't have to cover all of the perforated sections. Leave about 25% uncovered or it will sound way too loud.
Magic starts at 4:19
Wheels are awesome! I love them!
Can you tell me what brand those are?
Thanks! They are Vossen CV3-R Graphite
super work really!! I intend to have it done by a professional for my M3 in France, but i have a question: is there a risk for anything, for the engine or the performance of the engine, the collector etc ... as the data of the manufacturer are changed? I'm not a mechanic that's the reason for my question thank you very much
By the time the exhaust hits that far back, you’re past all the 02 sensors, engine date recording systems...so no
do the outer cans effect sound or is this essentially a straight pipe now? id be more interested to hear it with the resonated tube left in and a proper weld.
+jfnovae It's essentially a straight pipe. The welds are proper, they just aren't pretty. Function is the same.
Nice work - I have been doing some research on this mod, and most just cut out two of the 4 pipes. I see you did all 4. Does this make it significantly louder?
Jason Bedford Yeah, I noticed there are a couple different ways to do this mod. Since all 4 pipes have holes in them I figured we might as well cut them all out and replace all 4 while we had the exhaust opened up. It turned out great but not sure if it made it significantly louder since I couldn't really compare.
Silly question, but does this in anyway throw up any codes? Also does it improve BHP at all?
I hate check engine lights and thankfully never had one come on so no it shouldn’t throw any codes. I also never had a dyno test done before or after so I’m not sure on bhp but it sure felt faster!
Sounds badass. Would this be the same sound as a muffler delete?? Cause this looks like way too much work
mcp07335i thanks man, yes it’s a lot of work but it’s worth it. If u do a muffler delete it’s going to sound like ur driving around with no muffler.... And you will have zero back pressure which would throw on a check engine light.
@@AudiR8-RCA cool thanks man for getting back to me. I was thinking of getting a e92 m3 or lexus is f. I sold my pos 335i and bmw left a bad taste in my mouth haha but m3s sound badass and cheaper now
mcp07335i yeah I feel ya I had a 335 before I got the M3 and had issues with it. I like the e92 since it’s naturally aspirated u don’t have to worry about turbos going out but some of them have rod bearings issues. If ur in the market I actually just listed mine for sale. I’ve had it wrapped in charcoal matte metallic since I made the video. Here is a link: facebook.com/marketplace/item/2066801843449649/
@@AudiR8-RCA dam ur car is super clean. But im poor i was looking at higher mileage ones for around 20 and 22k haha and theres a place that does the bearings for 2350 mrf engineering. So i was going to do that. What are u trying to get once u sell urs. F80 M car?
mcp07335i dang that’s not bad at all, I’ll have to keep that place in mind if I keep the car and ever need to change the bearings. But yeah I have been looking around and my plan would be to upgrade to the M4 once I sell mine
What Angel eyes do you have installed? They Look very bright (nice white Color)
Thanks, they are Lux Angel Eyes and the color is adjustable between white and blue. I have them kind of in the middle more towards the white hue. www.luxangeleyes.com/
+honda1rca Thanks, do they have any Heat Problems?
+greekboydeluxe I've been running theses headlights for almost 2 years and I haven't had a single issue with them. No dash lights or bulbs burning out, etc.
Hi, when welding the covers back on did you have to do them one layer at a time for each side?
Jonathan Lei we spot welded them together in several spots then spot welded them in several spots to the rest of the casing after closing the two flaps. So tack them together in a few spots then fold them back down and tack the two covers already tacked together to the rest of the housing where it is cut. After it's tacked all the way around you can weld the seams. If you dont do all the spot welds in the correct order, you will risk the sheet metal shrinking and warping when you go to weld the seams again.
What is the pipe diameter inside?
Michael Spadoni I should have wrote it down. We measured it after we cut it open and went bought the pipe that day. I can't remember exactly though.
The diameter of the pipe is 2.5inches.
no gloves when pulling the glass out of the muffler?
Vincent Lau gloves would probably be a good idea
do you know, is the m performance exhaust already change the pipe to solid pipe?
No it does not
cool, i am going to do the mod for the mpe
I'm doing the same on my M3.
Can I don't replace back the fiberglass at the end before welding?
Is the fiberglass replacement necessary?
Thanks ;)
+Stefano Conterio I don't believe the fiberglass is a requirement to go back in before you weld it back together but I put it in just to be safe. My reasoning was there could be a chance for a "pingy" sound if we left it out.
is there any drone inside the car
No drone at all.
What happens if you leave the fiberglass out?
I thought it might keep something from rattling around if a small scrap piece of metal was floating around in there but honestly I have no idea, which is why we decided to put it back in.
Does this setup have drone at cruising speeds ?
+Nirmal Krishnan no drone at all. It has the perfect sound and tone. I really couldn't be any happier with this exhaust.
+honda1rca oh great I am doing it in my car asap. The kriessieg exhaust is too loud for me and I sold it
Nice work!
Where can you get they's things done ?????
MrCannonharry You can probably have an exhaust shop do it or a welder if you know someone.
Thanks honda1rca
work of art, where
+Robert Nilsson It may not be pretty but you would call it a work of art also if you do this mod yourself. It's only a 6 min. video but you will have some time involved before you get it back on the car!
What's the name of the song playing in this video?
Lindsey sterling-crysralize
Nice Car 👌🏼 could you tell me the Name and combination of the wheels ?
Muenze 90 they are 20” Vossen wheels
honda1rca nice thx! Which Vossen Wheels exactly? and which tire sizes? Looks pretty good!
Muenze 90 they are CV3-R wheels and staggered. 20x10 in the rear and 20x9 in the front. Can’t remember the exact tire size, I sold the car
honda1rca thx!
Awesome job! As Michael Spadoni just asked: ''What is the pipe diameter inside?'' If you could answer, we would appreciate it... ;-)
+The Guardian The Guardian I believe the pipe diameter is 2.5 inches
Any power increase?
Jesus Navas Probably minimal power increase, if any. I couldn't tell a difference.
You don't need to cut off both sides of the backbox, just the top. The pipes you weld in do not need to be airtight! The ones before defo were not! Just weld what you can see. A bit of exhaust escaping is no different to what the original exhaust was doing ;). Good vid tho
Yeah I don't think it needs to be air tight but I wanted it as solid as possible for maximum results. Probably doesn't sound much different doing it ur way tho and is a huge time saver as well. Good work.
don't ever try your hand at surgery.
+Hybrid Vision lol. this is a DIY video. Doesn't have to be pretty but we got the job done.
lol, dead!
What % tint is your windows?
20%
“Mount your work of art” lmao.
Damn are we riding a horse off into the sunset at the end of a movie or something? Dafuq is with music.
This does make you loose back pressure though!
+Rafik Jabbour this may be true but if it is I don't think it's enough to make a difference. I've had this mod done for over a year and not a single check engine light or any performance issues. If you are cutting off the exhaust entirely that might make a difference. Also, we did not cut off the cats, they are still on the car and the air still flows thru all the natural bends throughout the exhaust designed by BMW.
You won't notice the difference until you race another car and find out that you're losing a car length at high speed. Not major difference but if you're a performance freak you should know that. Sounds awesome nevertheless. Check my setup, it's in one of my videos. Not the best in terms of performance either but I went for the sound.
I respect the whole DIY. Those welds will fail at some point. those are some of the ugliest welds I've ever seen. I'm not saying that I could weld better than that. I would rather pay someone to save the cost that is going to rear it's ugly head at some point.
I seriously doubt those welds will fail b/c there isn't any stress on those weld points whatsoever. The welds only need to support the weight of the piping itself which is only a few ounces. In terms of it being ugly who really cares because once you button it up you can't even see them. Let's say worst case scenario even if they somehow did fail the only thing that would happen is air would leak out into the exhaust canister which is how it was designed in the first place. In my opinion it's hard to justify paying someone to do this mod unless you don't have access to a welder or know someone who does.
no difference to just cut the muffler off and weld piping back.....way easier too.
I think there would be a lot of difference. One disadvantage would be the high probability of throwing a code and having to deal w a check engine light from not having the proper back pressure. Also the sound is going to be extremely loud doing it that way.
honda1rca just seems like a hell of a lot of work.
Lol. Yes it is. But worth it!
You make a good welder, or rather you'd make a good welder cry
+Bob Ford we aren't professional and never claimed to be "good" welders but had access to a welder and got the job done for FREE. :)
Free is the best! Who cares what the welds look like! All they will notice is the kick ass S65 exhaust note.
Well you would know by the welds that he doesnt have much practice with it who cares its hidden anyways and will be good for however long he owns the car.
Wow!
du ska fan inte hålla i ett svetshandtag,o sen lägga upp skiten på nätet
Ott quicker way of that mod
Since everyone has a welder..
U don't need to own a welder... Just know someone who does
and hp is down
If the muffler was removed completely I would agree with you, but in this particular set up I don't believe hp has changed. If so it is very minimal.
Did anyone else hear the muffler screaming and crying while he was doing the shitty job of welding it back together?
Dear honda1rca I think I can marry you. Wonderful
Wa y this gay music?
Waste of life