RWBY Theory - The Silver Eyes are Anti Magic
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- The mystery of the silver eyes has been on everyone's mind for a long time now. There have been many theories as to what the silver eyes are and where they came from, and so I am here to offer yet another Silver eyes theory, one stemming from The Gods, Magic and ultimately Anti Magic.
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Magic was a gift from the god of darkness to humanity so it would make sense that the power of the god of light in the silver eyes would harm magic users the same way it harms Grimm
Covenfan1234 they were created by the same guy
Personally, I think that it was the god of darkness who gave humans magic since right before he destroyed the world he said "My own power...used against me." And it has been shown that the Silver eyes was also used by the god of light during the fight with his brother.
This makes me think that the silver eyes is capable of killing or at least wounding, both Ozbin and Salem. Most likely Salem intends to use Ruby to kill Oz permanently.
What if Ruby's Silver eyes could free Salem from her Grimm form
Excellent question/theory! 👏 👍
That is a theory that I have had for a while now. We know that Salem is immortal and is corrupted and that is what allows her to control the grimm. But as the corruption goes I think that basically means that she herself is part grimm. So, while I don't necessarily think Ruby's eyes can kill Salem, I do think that they are the key to reverting her back to her human form.
I think Rubys eyes are the key to defeating Salem. So I agree with you on that.
Salem is only immortal until she learns the wrongs she's done and feels remorse for what she did not just to Oz, but also to humanity and to accept the cycles of life, death, and rebirth.
@@pagansunite4005 And if her Grimm half is destroyed then she will cease to be immortal. . . .Because that half of her is what craves destruction and lacks empathy- OH MY GOD.
Quite a few of us in the FNDM have had this same theory for a while now; I first thought of it in Volume 3 and it solidified for me in volume 5, during the Battle of Haven, where we see that even just the flare-up of the Silver Eyes Power from Ruby (before she got hit from behind by Emerald) was enough to not only hurt Cinder's Grimm arm (We see and hear Cinder grimacing and groaning in pain while grabbing her missing/replaced arm, and to me, it looked like that arm actually dissolved for a while), but Cinder's flaming eye-halo dissipates, indicating that her Maiden Powers, which are pure magic, have been "turned off" as well, at least temporarily.
Since the only connection that we know of between Grimm and the Maiden Powers is that they're both magic-based, it makes sense to believe that the Silver Eyes Power affects not only the effects of magic, but magic itself, and since we have been told/shown that the Silver Eyes Power is related to the gods themselves, it makes sense that the gods, who wielded magic to create Remnant and everything in it, would know how to "erase", "cancel out", or nullify that magic, and be able to utilize that power as easily as they wield magic.
It's like a writer knowing how to easily use both the graphite lead and the rubber eraser ends of his/her pencil to achieve the desired end result, even though the lead and the eraser do opposite things.
Two (small) points of contention:
1) The Silver Eyes are NOT "triggered by the Grimm"; they are triggered by the earnest need to protect, from no matter the source, Grimm or otherwise, as explained by the writers through Maria's teachings to Ruby (and us).
2) The Silver Eyes are not "mainly an anti-Grimm weapon"; they are a weapon against all magic-based things threatening humanity. That's like saying that if a person has a pistol which they use mainly to crack walnuts with the pistol-handle, then a pistol is mainly an anti-walnut weapon.
Also, "the gods have magic which allows them to fly off into... god knows where..." I see what you did there! 😁👍
QUWYKXZ #teamFNDM
I thought cinder’s maiden effects just stopped because she was in pain but thats an interesting theory :D
I’ve heard this theory many times but the issue I have with it is that there’s nothing currently in the series to substantiate it. So far in the series we’ve been explicitly told that silver eyes affects Grimm and every instance of their use has proved this true. And so, I would argue that Salem’s vol 4 comments reflect more on the fact that Cinder merged with a Grimm in order to steal maiden powers as opposed to the powers themselves being susceptible to silver eyes. Case in point, when Ruby activated her eyes in Vol 5 Cinder was temporarily paralyzed whereas Raven was completely unaffected even though she was within the flash of light. So unless we’re told or shown some merging different in the series I can’t get behind this theory.
I assumed that Cinder was affected by the Silver Eyes because of how she obtained the Fall Maiden's powers. In a flashback in Volume 3, we see Cinder, Emerald, and Mercury attacking Amber. Cinder puts on a white glove with a red sigil on it, and it sprouts a weird insectoid-Grimm-looking thing that drains Amber of her magic. The power continues draining away until Qrow arrives and destroys the Grimm-bug; the glove dissolves (possibly due to the Grimm-bug's death) as a tattoo appears on Cinder's back. Perhaps the glove was made by Salem's Grimm magic, and the Silver Eyes recognized that and attacked Cinder because of it.
While I wouldn't call it "anti-magic," it makes sense for it to be hostile to the God of Darkness's power. Additionally, I rather doubt it was the work of evolution, all things considered, but I agree with the anti-magic part.
Cinder used a grimm to steal the powers of the fall maiden, thats what gave her the tatoo on her back, as it is in her that makes her vulnerable to the silver eyes
I always thought Silver Eyes were a "gift" from the God of Light, instilled within Ozma's bloodline (i.e. his offspring & their descendants) per his "resurrection". The GOL can vanquish his brother's creations (i.e the Grimm & the magic he gifted to humanity), much like how light vanquishes darkness. So SE can vanquish the same things (in this case the Grimm & the Maidens-- who have "old magic" passed to them by Salem--who's the lone survivor of the previously magically imbued humans--thanks to the Pools of Grimm). I'd say SE are more "counter dark magic" than anything else & were a "divine gift", since Ruby stated the GOL used his eyes to vanquish Grimm.
The Maidens were given their magic by a previous incarnation of Oz, so I'm not sure why the silver eyes in this theory would be a weakness to the Maidens, considering how both came from the same person
Finally, an ‘answer’ to why Ruby’s eyes hurt Cinder at the fall of Beacon. This whole time I’m like ???? Cinder wasn’t a Grimm yet??
But she was. We literally saw her use a Grimm to steal the Fall Maiden powers. That means that Grimm was directly connected to her, and was probably somewhere inside of her body. Hence, the Silver Eyes hurt her because she is in essence part Grimm. It's the same thing with Haven. Besides, if this were true, Raven would have suffered similar injuries when Ruby used her powers at Haven.
I thought that was pretty well established...
Wait!!! I just thought of something!!! What if the silver eyes were created by ozpin from the relic of creation? Eye color seems to be genetic in the RWBY universe. Ruby’s mother had silver eyes, the Grimm Reaper use to have silver eyes and she said she learned how to use them from her father who also had silver eyes. I think Ozpin took a group of the best warriors and gifted them with silver eyes. When he did this, silver eyes immediately became a dormant gene. It makes sense to me, does it makes sense to anyone else?
Hmmm it's possible but it depends on what the relic of creation is capable of. I don't know if the relic could create something that has never existed in the world of Remnant but there's also the fact that the silver eyes resemble the god of light's power and the relics were created by the god of light. it's interesting for sure but I also just came up with a different theory for the origin of the silver eyes that I might make into a video soon...
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I'm not sure if I'm on board with the origin of the SE because (imo) it would be weird if they really come from "nothing" (aka totally random mutations between countless generations) given the importance that they have.
However, I'm totally on board with their effect and them being anti-magic. Because, as you said, there's still this little line in V4 that links the maiden powers to the SE.
So it's either a misformulation of the dialogue when the writers weren't exactly sure of the whole thing back in V4, or the two really are connected.
Plus, as some people pointed out, the GoD said that magic was a gift from him to the humans. And since he also created the Grimm, the SE could totally be an "anti-GoD-creations".
The origin of them would still be unsure but a friend of mine (and other people I'm sure) suggested that they could come from Ozpin and his various "descendents" because he may have some GoL powers in him (that causes the reincarnation) and that could have been passed down to his children. Then, this semblance of power from the GoL would be effective against the creations of the GoD, and that's that ^^
And that was another wall of text ><
Thank you if you had the courage to read that far :)
My theory is that silver eyes were the god of light's insurance plan against the grimm
Specifically, it is could be Anti-Dark magic. It targets things specifically created by the God of Darkness. It didn't affect past Salem or the God of Darkness himself, just the Grimm in the area. Cinder being affected to the point that she lost parts of her body that weren't visibly related to the Grimm is unusual, drawing questions of if she was always fused with Grimm or if the Maiden powers were connected to the God of Darkness somehow.
I think the very essence of magic consists of both light and dark properties, like we've seen Salam display in the beginning of chapter 3 volume 6.
Ali BabaAhmed Yeah, and I did notice she used light magic to teleport to Ozma before she killed him during their fight.
its videos like yours that sometimes makes me feel like the community care about the logic and writing of the series lol
and to be honest I just thought that the silver eyes are just the "kryptonite" to magic and the Grimm (your theory is was more elaborate )
So does this mean that Ruby's greatest power is "NEVER GIVING UP".
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Am I sensing a reference...?
@@benjaminmcneil574 Yes yes you are. I'll give you a hint its an anime reference.
Its Black Clover my dear friend.
Now that I saw volume 6 and this video I like to think that the silver eyes have been gifted by the god of light and the fact that in the flashback the god of darkness talks about magic like 'his' gift and that the god of light didn't originally meant for the silver eyes to injure magic users but since the magic is an extension of himself and so are the grimm they do injure both
I actually am working on the video about the origin of the silver eyes and I will say they do stem from the god of light in some way 😁
It so to hear your amazing voice
It would make more sense that the silver eyes can destroy destruction, aka the grim. Also, as Maria stated, the silver eyes are the same powers used by the God of light. So assuming this, since Salam is an immortal being that is purely made of destruction, when Salam "banged" Ozma, i think the powers took parts of Oz's immortality, only transferring the magic from person to person, but also Salam's "destruction", and her weakness to the silver eyes. Thoughts?
She became immortal because she fell on the lake of creation.
And I think the silver eyes only works on mortal magic and common Grimm.
Why?
Because Destro-Bro didn't put much effort on making beowulves, ursas, nevermores, etc. Wyvern and Leviathan on the other hand were possibly made with more effort so when they turned into stones they didn't die immediately.
It may work on magic that magic users, Salem included, but not on the magic of the gods themselves including the curse of immortality.
If this is true then Ruby can remove the "destruction" that corrupted Salem but not the curse that was inflicted to her. In other words silver eyes cannot kill Salem and she never will be so don't count on it.
Only Salem herself can lift it if she realise her mistakes.
Sorry for the the inconvenience.
I literally thought of this theory without even knowing it was a fandom theory
I had thought of something similar a while back, especially since everyone knows that it insta-kills lesser grimm nobody in the show seemed to realize that it blasted away half of Cinder's body the first time it went off.
I think that the silver eyes as a gift from the god of light simply oppose everything the god of darkness has created: grim and magic
also I agree more with a different theory you have in that the silver eyes are hereditary from successors of maidens
I simply prefer that more because of the impmications it has for the characters itself
it just sounds super cool and epic to have someone be a descendant of one of the maidens
like Ruby x.x
Vol 7 Ch 13, Penny was in the room when Ruby used her silver eyes attack against Cinder. Cinder rocket jetted away in time to avoid damage. Penny, having just gained Fria's winter maiden magic powers, was not affected by Ruby's attack.
It is also poorly defined how much damage grimm creatures get from each attack.
In many fantasy settings, anti-magic is a form of magic; a spell that can be cast to block other spells. The idea that silver eye powers are a form of anti-magic explains why Cinder took such a blow atop Beacon academy. But my problem with that is the fact that her entire left side was just devastated. It seems she had to replace her arm with that of a grim, and her eye was lost entirely. I don't know if that would result simply from an anti-magic attack.
On one hand, aura and dust are a fraction of what magic once was, so silver eyes should have been able to affect those as well if they really were anti magic. On the other hand, silver eyes might simply be some form of a specific anti magic. All magic consists of elements from both dragons, creation, destruction, knowledge and choice. Perhaps the Silver Eyes affect magic with much higher concentration of darkness/destruction, thus Grimm and Maiden powers. It's like an anti elemental spell, like what that Lion guy from the Seven Deadly Sins movie tried to use against Merlin (spoiler alert: it didn't work cause Merlin is beyond OP).
My problem with this theory is that Raven is a Maiden too and she wasn't affected by Ruby's eyes. I also think Oscar still has enough magic in him that he might have been affected by Ruby's eyes if they affected just magic in general, and possibly even Qrow since magic allows him to transform.
I think even before Cinder had the Grimm arm, she took Grimm into her, at least that beetle-in-a-glove thing, before taking the first part of the previous Fall Maiden's powers.
Anti magic?
I THINK YOU MEAN EARTH HUMAN TECHNOMANCY.
I am a firm believer in the idea that the 4 maidens are the souls of their children. They are inherently part grimm, this would also explain why Grimm are able to be use to steal the power as well.
You know it does kind of make sense when he put it that way. I may need to go watch the show again.
It could be based on intensions instead of just magic. I think Cinder's intentions being pure greed and to hurt whoever she wants to get that power. Grimm's intensions are pure evil. So purely wicked that they can only conceive destruction. The greater the evil intensions the greater the affect on the being. Grimm turn to stone, and
cinder was burnt and lost her arm.
Silver eyes are lumps from Adventure Time
Hmmm. With Salem in Atlas in Volume 8 i've come back to this theory and I think I found a flaw. During the Battle of Haven, Ozpin within Oscar's body was also present when Ruby activated her silver eyes. Ozpin has magic and thus Oscar would have acquired magic. If the silver eyes were indeed anti-magic, there should have been an effect on Oscar but as we know that did't happe. Ozpin collapsed from exhaustion.
As far as I knew I thought the original maidens we're Salem and ozpin children consider that they were the only ones that could still use magic at the time besides Salem and I ozpin
I think that I could be right it would make sense.
Arguments for it
1.salem states it is because of the maiden powers that cinder lost (cinder was greatly injured and wasn't part grimm yet)
2. Ruby stated maria can't be right because it reacted to cinder
3. Is your reasoning
I started theorizing a few days back myself about this, and i believe pretty much the same thing but i also think that the silver eyed warriors could also deflect and or absorb magic and nullify it or charge themselves with it although i don't believe in my charge theory that much for it would make ruby beyond unfair vs cinder if that was the case.
My second theory to add on here is that silver eyed warriors could maybe summon forth blades of pure light (like noctis arminger from FF15) but these blades wont hurt the living only the grimm and when the blade makes contact with the grimm the impact zone would start to be petrified but not completely only the zone where the blade struck or when the target is small enough it would completely petrify as long as the blade is embedded in the target.
So, if your theory is correct, and the gods are beings of pure magic, then the god of light would have provided humanity a way to destroy them... The god of light secretly has a death wish?
Wait I thought when Salem talked about cinder's Powers having a weakness I thought she was talking about that weird grim looking tattoo thing that she uses to suck the maidens powers out. I thought she was always kind of part grim
Didn't it just affect cinder due to the way she stole the maiden powers
I think that Silver eyes may be way to defeat Salem. The power was describe as a
preservation so immortality may not protect from them. I don't know if it is
possible but Salem probably have similar theory and that why she send assassins
after people with this power. Spending eternity as a statue cannot be tempting
idea.
Cinder's method of stealing the maiden powers required the splicing of a grimm onto her arm. silver eyes SPECIFICALLY target grimm. it is because of the method cinder and salem used to STEAL the powers that lead to the vulnerability.
I saw that Cinder and Salem had a weakness against the silver eyes because the silver eyes are another form of magic considering that you don't need dust or you can't use dust to activate them in any way shape or form so as far as we know those are the only three magic things left Salem the amazing powers in the Silver Eyes so considering that the silver eyes aren't particularly on Salem side they would pose a threat cuz it still is and I can counteract the original magic AKA maiden in powers
Oscar: ozpin does this mean that a silver iodide warrior could kill me just by staring me to death
I like your theory but the finale of volume 7 confirms that this isn’t the case.
Ruby’s silver eyes activated with both Cinder and the Winter maiden in the room and only Cinder was affected.
Pretty sure it’s just her grim prosthetic.
If the Silver eyes are anti-magic wouldn't that mean that Summer Rose couldn't be a maiden because her Silver eyes would cancel out the maidens power.
Raven was not hurt by Ruby in haven and she was there to when ruby did sliver eyes.
Are you saying that females with silver eyes will never be able to have maiden powers or that they would be a super buffed up tank soldier
If the silver eyes are anti magic, how could Summer Rose have been a maiden?
I'm pretty sure this was debunked because it's canon that Crow already explained where the Silver Eyes came from and as far as we know we're never going to get another explanation to debunk that from the show itself
Also wasnt cinders arm grim, not the obvious one the one that spit out the grim beatle to steal part of the maidens power
This aged well...
Much simpler explaination that the comments have already jumped on. Magic came from the god of darkness. Maria specifically pointed out the silver eyes as a trait of the god of light. That's why they work against maidens and grimm
that makes sense to me .
like cinder killed pyrah and ozpin how the hell was rwby able to cut her arm and her eye ?
I can see teams RWBY and JNPR (including Pyrrha Nikon) will be the ones to destroy Salem I just know it
But..Pyrrha Nikos..she's dead~
@@s0phia71if the relic of creation is bring her back as part of Jaune's development and Pyrrha will end up with jaune I know it
@@dustinelias7840 Bullshit.
That's creating Pyrrha that isn't JNR's Pyrrha. That's just creating a soulless copy. Not unless you mean they'd DRAG Pyrrha's soul back from the afterlife and back into the mortal realm just to be with Jaune? And after this whole thing about the importance of life and death?
*Do you have ANY idea how utterly asinine this sounds?!*
Could silver eyes defeat 'our dark queen' because she jumped in to the pool of darkness. So she would be part grim and silver eye beat grim.
So what you’re saying is........... Ruby is Asta’s real mother?
Hi im Doryin Lloyd. I think that is right and i Can't want for Rwby volume 8 to come out this year in the fall. I hope that the heros can save Atlis from Salem. I wish for Rwby volume 8 is that Ruby can use her silver eyes to kill Salem and that Pyrrha return from Cinder body by the help of Jaune or Ruby to bring her back like at the middle of the war. The heros and the people of Atlis will be safe When the war against Salem and her army. I have very big questions is Summer Rose alive somewhere or she is still dead. I want to see in war against Salem is Qrow,Taiyang,Raven team up again to stop Salem from getting the powers of the walick weapons. I love Rwby so much i got the dvds of the show of volume 2,3,4,5,6 and the world of Rwby hardcover book. The TH-camr guy is doing very Good job for his TH-cam videos. Ilove watch his TH-cam videos it is so Good he Did avery Good job at it.Go team Rwby!!! . They are very Good heros Salem you will not win against the great heros of Rwby. I love the show so much and im a very very big fan of Rwby.
Anti magic, connection to Dragons, im expecting that, I watched Toaru Majutsu no Index, and the main character who has the "Anti-magic" or more of "Anti supernatural" Kamijou Touma, the Imagine breaker has Heavy, HEAVY connections to Dragons,
When I saw the title I thought of Asta. Lol
Do you think we will get may one or two more Silver eyes character that are alive?
I hope we meet more Silve eyed warriors. Maria was a great surprise, so I think it's definitely possible
@@PhoenixNight If we do get more I can't wait!!!! :D
Ok, I don't think SE are product of evolution. God of Darkness, state dhe wipe dout ALL humanity, expect Salme. So there was no way for new humans to evolve with resitance to magic, since there was nothign that activly used magic against them. Yes, they faced Grimm, but they were more of physical threat.
I belive that SE might come from Ozpin descnedants (well, from his hosts).
If the silver eyed warriors are such a biological and environmental advantage and we know they're genetic why aren't they more common?
Nice
Are they descended from Salem and Ozzy?
I have ideas about that topic and am currently working on a video about it 😁
The children of Ozzy and Salem are not only the four Maidens, but their children are the parents of the first silver eyes. A defense mechanism to ward off Salem. After all, she tried to kill them in her rage.
Theory debunked by Raven, Jinn, and Oscar being unaffected despite being magical themselves.
Exactly what I thought!
The silver eyes seems to be exactly the same as what the god of light used to kill all the Grimm when he transformed into the dragon of light!
That only affected the Grimm and not the god / dragon of dark! So it does not appear to even be anti-dark magic!
They could be above it also it wasn't targeted at raven.
Or oscar/ozpin and etc. It wasn't targeting them
Also gonna keep doing this. You miss used "Dimensions" wrong. you are thinking of the word Realm/world. Dimensions just has to do with, length, height, depth/width
If that’s the case... What if Silver eyes aren’t the only form of anti magic?